that MacBook was clearly conceived and designed on the predicate that Intel would deliver on their promises for low power silicon and it was a complete disaster on that front- not even considering the keyboard. I have no doubt this product was why Apple ditched Intel and bringing it back with a more angular industrial design language and competitive price would be a massive success.
@@alyx6427 i agree! the m3 was definitely inefficient and underpowered, but they felt like their SOC wasn't nearly ready and had no choice but to rush it
@@Evan_Rodgers tbh I wouldn't say that, an m3 MacBook can totally do most tasks perfectly fine and it's even capable of editing 4k videos! Watch Jonathan Morrison's video on the 12" MacBook!
it's a 2 core, very low end intel CPU but with a very bad thermal, and sure it could have been the first to get an Axx CPU as test. But all soldered, not expandable and only one port/power input makes it hard to use as main computer.
I scored one of these in an 'untested' ebay auction for under $150. It's a 2017 with the i7 and 16 GB memory and a battery with good life left. It's honestly still very usable. I actually find myself gravitating towards it over my M1 Air for just web browsing and media consumption. The form factor is impressive, and I can very easily just carry it from room to room in one hand without even thinking about it!
The "Macbook" is an ideal pc for many "C-Level" executives. I will be suprised if they don't bring it back. In fact one of my first thoughts during the introduction of Apple Silicon was that it would be perfect for the return of the "Macbook".
@@piotrd.4850 Yes, that is likely true but all the "C-Level" executives I've met really want the latest/greatest/sexist tech to show off to fellow exec's. Sad because they don't really need it but somehow they believe it gives them status.
@@s4lvin989 hear me out. 12 inch should be called Macbook (Air) Mini. 14 inch Macbook Pro, 15 inch Macbook (Air) 16 inch Macbook Pro Max. Just like iPhones 😂😂
Writing this from 2017 Macbook 12. The best machine so far. The keyboard is phenomenal and never gets stuck. The only issue is the temperature on the back. It does not overheat, but gets really close to that
I hate the butterfly keyboard; I prefer more traditional chicklet style keyboards. The best was the older keyboards laptops had from the late 1990's until the early 2010's, they were amazing to type on. I would gladly take a thick laptop to get that keyboard style back. I am a fully tactile typer and I don't get anything from the butterfly keyboard because its the key travel.
Luke, let me tell you something interesting. By the way of you saying these are weak. It seems to me the last iterations were not weak. Here's why. I - a die hard fan of this model - have bought one of these in 2019. An 8gb 1.2 Ghz m3. It was like new in a 'Refurbished' branded box clearly from Apple, I didn't buy it from Apple but it was clearly not opened, i opened the box and it had the proper like a new one packiging with the plastic wrap around and the paper protection inbetween. I had another 2017 Macbook 16Gb 1.4 i7 in perfect working order, absolutely no issues which I still use today. The interesting fact is that this new one - the m3, the refurbished one - proved to be, after I done some tests in video editing and processing power tests - about 30-40 % faster. Think about it: weaker specs, a lot greater power. I can stil use it today for almost anything and it does the job. It doesn't stutter at anything. Even heavy processing. It's a lot slower than an m1 but it does the job and I still take pleasure in using it. I take it with me everywhere and it doesn't disappoint. Isn't it interesting that both are branded 2017 but the one with the weaker specs, the refurbished one is a lot faster. I suspect they had continued to improve these up till 2019. And the ones from 2019 - at least mine - is amazing and still very much usable and not weak - even today. Isn't it amazing. I hope they will listen to you and us and put some apple sillicon in these. We the ones who like these will be forever grateful to Apple. They were not just not terible - the later iterations - but also, these are the most beautiful colest slickest model of macbooks ever made. It would be a shame for Apple to give up on these light very portable beautiful Macbooks. Girls especially and us who carry one with us very often will be disappointed. The other models will not be taken as often outside because they are heavier. Even if they are as light as the m2 Macbook Air. Not as light as these. Thanks, All the best.
This MacBook was the first to adopt the design trend of the MacBooks that came after it and what we use now. It has things the new MacBook kept and improved on. The 12 inch MacBook may have failed but what it set out to do lived on in better MacBooks. This 12 inch MacBook died so the M1 MacBook Air could live.
Used to own one of these. Apart from shit specs it’s the best MacBook I have owned. Unmatched in mobility. The very best keyboard ever (I love minimal travel). Apart from shitty specs my only issues was the heat and lack of ports.
I proudly used this macbook for 6 years, as a uni student it was perfect small light pretty powerful enough for word processing and research. However, now that i have my own business i needed something with more power so i was forced to get the M2 Air, ngl i was blown away with its speed. I am sad that the M2 air (apples thinnest and lightest) is literally thicker and heavier than a 7 year old laptop...
I have a 2015 and a 2017 purchased on ebay. The 2015 came with a new battery and keyboard. The 2017 will receive a software update from mac OS Big Sur to mac OS Monterey.
Same here. Got the 2015.when it came out , upgraded to 2017, and still my daily laptop. Current Air and Pro models are too big, so refresh would be nice.
Yeesh, to think that even the outdated design 2nd Gen. MacBook Air with those aluminium white bezels at the time is equipped with 720p camera since 2012. Say what you will about Apple SoC advanced ISP but if your sensor is measly no amount of ISP real-time tweak can make that 480p that'll best a 720p sensor. Thank goodness we're getting 1080p camera upgrade moving forward that's long overdue on MacBook's side - even if it's too late in terms of adoption in regards to the iPad and iPhone line.
I always wanted a 12”. Even if they just used the same form factor and swapped in the m1 and the scissor keyboard I’d be all over it. But I’m hoping for something more like what you describe. Flat form factor, smaller bezels, and new color scheme.
Everything about the 12” MacBook was perfect, so much so that I find the M1 MacBooks way too bulky!! Loved that thin keyboard too! Delivered well on office apps, RUclips & safari..
@@iCrackr Never had any issue with the keyboard or logic board! In fact I prefer that keyboard. The new keyboards hv 2much plastic, big bulky keys with too much movement. Webcams on all macs except the new iMac are crap! Best to use iPhones for video FaceTime or ipad.
@@YEETMAN-dt9mb Maybe u just need to mind ur business and not bother about what I like or don’t! The world is full of choices and we’re free to like whatever!! Maybe u don’t have that liberty but frankly I couldn’t care less !! The very fact that Apple introduced it commercially means a lot of people at Apple liked it too!! At least ALL the relevant ones.
The MacBook Air M2 is that colorful laptop that never came to be colorful. But it still feels thicker and much larger and is still 35% heavier than the MB12”. So, I still think they should remake this one and with the tapered form factor, cause a squared one will give more volume and thus weight, or maybe not, the M2 Air has in fact more volume than the M1 Air, so they might be able to keep it down!
So fun facts, i did my entire law degree on an 12 inch macbook also nearly finished my mba. Ive actually purchased broken 12 inch macbooks to replace broken parts to keep mine going. I also travel alot and its perfect and light and reliable. I bought the new m1 its heavy and big.. apple needs to make another 12inch m2
I love my MacBook 12”. I’m probably going to get the battery replaced soon (I last did this two years ago) before Apple’s usual cutoff for servicing older machines, and make this thing last as long as it possibly can.
They need to bring this back with an A14 or even an A13 Chip at 800 dollars and an improved butterfly keyboard or maybe make it a bit thicker for magic keyboard and add another USB-C
@@AJ-wg7fj there’s literally no reason for the air to exist to be honest it’s thicker then a pro at it’s thickest just have the same 12 in chasis and increase the display size market it as a 12.9-13 in and name it as macbook (2022) and have the apple m series chips be a generation behind and sell it at 799
All things considered, I think this was a bit of a stepping stone to getting where we are today. But for me, it’s not forgotten. Sure, it’s slow as heck for higher end tasks, but for my fiction writing and average daily tasks it’s just so damn portable. I picked up a 512 GB model on the secondary market and don’t even mind the keyboard on a laptop this small and thin. If Apple loaded an M1 chip in there, and upgraded the keyboard, I would be very tempted to buy a new one. But having just bought a 13 inch M1 MacBook Air, will a new 12 inch become superfluous? Once we get M2 chips, maybe at the right price point with an M1 chip installed in the same form factor, I could see the 12 in model making its return and becoming the new budget mini laptop in the same way last years IPhone SE gave people a fairly decent phone at a fraction of the cost of higher end iPhones. Then I could see it becoming a potentially strong seller most people could do some real work on and even trashing those useless budget laptops with older chips at places like Walmart that people keep investing and reinvesting in as their daily drivers.
the Gen 2/Gen 3 Air that went on to sell like a gorillion units in the 2010s was ahead of the MBP until the Retina 13" Pros came out in 2013. For like a good 3 years if you wanted Apple's best 13" computer, with much faster storage, better battery, and a higher-resolution display (1440p vs 1280x800), along with being much much smaller, you got a Macbook Air instead of a Macbook Pro. It quickly became the budget option and then was allowed to lag, but there's no rule that says that Apple has to treat it like a second-class citizen. I'd love to see the MacBook name return and I appreciate the simplicity of MacBook/MacBook Pro and nothing else, but I don't see how the 13" MacBook you decribed differentiates itself enough (unless Apple also makes a 15" version like some have rumored, lol)
@@cartilagehead Great either of them & I did the same buying a waiting 2014 13” rMBP cheap ($113) but with issues a badly cracked screen soo I’m looking for a “for parts” cadaver to salvage a screen bcuz they’re very expensive. If I knew that I’d waited to buy a fully working one. Meanwhile my used “new to me” 2015 15” MB AIR (perfect condition except 128gb HD) is getting the job done. Thanks!
I love the 12” form factor. It’s the perfect size and weight to throw into a bag, walk all day and forget you are caring a notebook. As a secondary machine works pretty well.
That would be great. When I measured the lid on my 11" Air, it looked like you could almost get a 13" screen in there, if the bezels were ultra thin. I have to admit, I really love the size and weight of my 11" Macbook Air
I had two of those. I gave the first one to a teacher friend of mine who needed a laptop and still uses it with no problems. And I bought the second one "refurbished" from Amazon but gave it to my niece that needed a laptop for school. That second one had a failing keyboard and it quit working. But the first one (the oldest one) it still very much alive and kicking. Of course, these were not meant for power users.
Currently typing from a 12" Retina i7 16gb, the claim that a couple of chrome tabs will melt your lap is absurd. I regularly have like 5 or 6 windows, with 10 tabs each in them, while playing youtube videos. I've played GTA 5 Online (low settings) with it, use Logic Pro on it every day to record 16+ channels of drum tracks + 20 other track, and have even used it for light video editing. Best computer I've ever owned, it feels more than competent for anything I can imagine throwing at it outside of serious gaming and video editing. Though yeah, I'd love to see M1in this form factor.
I was very close to nabbing one, but the price / performance trade off was just too steep. This felt like the future version of my 12” PowerBook, which still stands as my favorite laptop from an emotional perspective.
MacBook and MacBook Air are only SHORT LIFE that's why most people tend to buy MacBook Pro more long term! My personal to use MacBook Pro 16 inch for today! I had MacBook Pro 2011 and MacBook Pro 2014 too! Love them models I never had to buy MacBook or MacBook Air since my family member bought them few months later they have too many problem issues.
@@Ale-bx9en oh ok I have under the AppleCare so they can repair with my laptop but twice time free bee laptop it’s replacement! Since it’s pretty much better!
I remember walking to a store with these in display back when it came out, some guy was testing it and the keyboard broke, it started typing out random shit on its own, he just backed away from it and left asap. otherwise, this was absolutely beautiful of a design
Oh wow so this is a Macbook? Damn I saw one of these in a clothing shop. A clerk had it on her desk and I was looking at it like “Damn, that’s a smaller macbook, how cool is that?” But I had no idea that it even existed. So I asked the girl what it was and she said it was a macbook. I was like “No sh.t, I tought it was a lenovo…” but anyways, I thanked her for the information and headed home dejected. And now, years later, I found out she was actually helpful and I’m glad I wasn’t rude.
I have a 2014 11” MBA and I love it. Even though I have a very large hands, I find typing on it quite easy. This is before the butterfly keyboard. I think that the analogy of an iPad that runs macOS is exactly what I am looking for. Fast processor, all day battery life, built-in full-sized keyboard, no fans. That is the cat’s meow
I sincerely trust you man. After being Ipad Pro only for three years I bought a 2015 16 gb RAM, SSD 256GB pro from Backmarket and I'm extremely happy. The only issue I have is dealing with things that need to connect with thunderbolt 3. I saw this 12" on backmarket and I almost bought it to travel with, but I thought I'd check with you first so glad I did. I upgraded my SSD to 1TB myself and I'm so happy . Keep making videos thank you so much.
From my understanding they tried to use the same CPU's from iphone/ipad in them but was not happy with the performance on macOS on it so seems like they decided to take the design they already made and slap intel based system inside it instead, honestly they should have just waited as the itel chips in this Mac can run too hot at times
I had a MacBook and loved the design of it, even the keyboard was fine in my experience. I actually would like to see that shallow keyboard come back, as long as it is reliable. I think you might be right Luke, and it will be nice to see.
I think the 12.9 M1 iPad Pro is already enough to replace the purpose of the 12 inch MacBook, it also with a better display,higher refresh rate.12 inch is rather too small for college student
Oh man! You're right I guess! Then it also makes sense why the rumors are that this device get colors and a white bezzle. Because the Macbook (except the aluminum 2008, the black one and the 12" Retina) was every time a white colored device. But if this is true I will missing the tapered design but we've to say goodbye to this good old design times for now. Thank you for your hope to get my loved 12" macbook in a little different style back.
There's no reason for 12" MacBook - Make 13" with small bezels and build it around A13 or A12. This additional inch makes a world of the difference for KEYBOARD.
Oh yes, completely agree, I still own mine and it is my favorite Mac by far …. This would be such a good fit for an M1 … come on Apple 12, 14, 16 makes so much sense!
I borrowed a 2015 base model 12 inch MacBook from my school for the year and I like the weight of it a lot. It is even lighter than my iPad Pro 10.5 with keyboard cover and pencil, and the form factor made typing better than on an iPad. The performance really suffer but installing Windows 11 does make it somewhat usable for web browsing.
The 12“ Retina Macbook was the preview of the M1 13“ MacBook Air, and was years before its time… Imagine what we could have now if Apple would produce its own SoC´s for years?!
Watching this video on my 2016 MacBook 12" which has been my main Mac for the last 5 years. I have it connected to a 4K LG display which it can run at full resolution at 60Hz while also driving its own retina screen at the same time. It has never failed me and even now I get great battery life and great usability out of this little Mac. If Apple introduce an M1 version I will be first in line to order one. Love it.
Honestly I'd like if they took that chassis, cut the bezels to a ~13 inch screen, added a second port, threw in an M1, and just called it the refreshed MacBook air. Honestly the fact that the "MacBook" was the ludicrously thin one and "air" just meant budget was confusing as all hell. Sure, we know at this point Apple doesn't give a shit what things should be called, but I think it would be easy and make a ton of sense.
I'm a bit confused. Is Luke saying that this new "Macbook" would eventually replace the Macbook Air line entirely, or that there would be three different styles of Macbooks (along with the iPad Pro)? Would there be a need for three different models when you have the Air for the basics, the Pro for anything requiring greater capability, and the iPad Pro which can also cover basics plus offer the ability to write or draw on the screen?
I'm still using the 2017 version. No issues at all and technically the performance is more than enough for me (safari, office suite, affinity suite, light FCP editing). It's a beautiful device, not for hardcore users which is an absolute stupidity if you're one of those and purchased this laptop but it caters towards users like us who really needs an ultra portable device that can get the job done.
I had 2015 version back in the day. What a beast for office work, small weight, good battery life, made my work so much easier. Unfortunately, died last year and sold for parts. But I really love this form factor. Paired with LG 4K usb-c monitor really pure joy to work. So I was so hyped about the rumours about new 12 inch MacBook on new apple arm chip for 899. Aaaand it didn’t happened. Still waiting a new 12 inch.
I used my 2016 12-inch Macbook for five years, til the day it won't turn on anymore. I love it because it is so portable: it's like an iPad but a Macbook.
the naming of it though. I feel like because apple has the "ipad" which is cheaper than the "ipad air" (which is thinner and lighter) they should have the macbook as cheap, colourful and aimed at students and the macbook air with a bit of a redesign as the slightly cheaper alternative to the pro and just lacks the m1x chip. I hope this time they will match the naming scheme to the ipad's one because it could be very confusing for the average consumer.
Yes. Totally agree. Apple should fix the nomenclatures. People have almost forgotten this model. It’s a good time to make it the $750 8/256 LCD sRGB “MacBook se” than make it a MacBook 13” to replace MacBook Pro 13”. Basically like the iPhone SE or 300$ iPad The best fix would probably be $750 : M1 MacBook 12”. 8/256 with sRGB LCD. $1000 : M2 MacBook Air 14”, 8/256 P3 LCD $1300 : M2 MacBook Air 16”, 8/256, P3 miniLED. $1800 : M1X MBP14” (16/512) P3 miniLED with 16c GPU at base price. $2400 : M1X MBP16” (16/512) P3 miniLED with 32cGPU at base price.
@Leave me alone how much better can you make a 1440p screen at 12” which was already dci P3? I don’t see why apple should put a 4K at 12” just cause justify pricing. 12” MacBook should be forgotten as the “premium MacBook Air with worse performance than the MacBook Air and pro” and reintroduced as a budget MacBook with worse specs than MacBook Air for 750$.
I bought it two years ago as a refurb from Apple France. It’s the 2017 16GB / 512 GB i7. Still using it daily, but I’m being real gentle with it :-) Praying that it keeps on working, because the size and weight are unbeatable.
I was just thinking about that I love how it looks but it’s pretty much useless An apple silicon version + proper keyboard + at least 2 thunderbolts would be 🔥
Around 2018ish I remember this was the same price as a pro but worse in every way aside from form factor and both the pro and the "MacBook" were 100 more than the also underpowered air so I got a base pro because the others in comparison felt absurd. Now with M1 the pro feels like the overpriced model, how the turn tables have......
I was just thinking thus yesterday. MACBOOK 12 inch was absolutely unique and frankly more powerful than people thought, obviously not a workstation but with 16gb ram very capable. I loved these. Bring it back apple!!!
It is exactly the point of my comment on a previous video. I never ever believed even one sec that this new design would be to replace the Macbook Air which just received new design 2 years ago and M1 chips last year, it is not adpated for the Macbook pro family. I remember Apple saying sometime ago that the Macbook was not dead.... The M1 gave them the capacity to reestablish the full family of products: Macbook Air, Macbook and Macbook Pro.
@DChannel you mean like macbook air..? Notice that I asked for differences, not similarities. The stupid obsession with the name of "Macbook 12" vs "Macbook Air" seems to be whole point of this video. The core doesn't change. He described Macbook Air and then spent like 5 minutes saying that "it actually won't be macbook air, it will be "Macbook" :D.
I think if they do want to bring it back only for one run they should make the pro the air and the regular MacBooks have the same design so they can go the own way and then they have a fresh start with a fresh new design
Here I am getting excited about a MacBook laptop I will never get in a million years lol. I need the MacBook Pro for power, and I’ll use my iPad for on the go easy work. This item has no place in my workflow, but I sure love to look at it.
What ticked me off was what they did with the MacBook Air this year. That would’ve been a perfect time to simply call it MacBook, especially with the redesign. I would’ve been the perfect M2 MacBook.Why not make the naming convention the same like it used to be; iMac - PowerMac; iBook - PowerBook, iPhone - iPhone Pro, iPad - iPad Pro, MacBook - MacBook Pro.
I have one. For me, seeing 2021 tech, When they release the next consumer Macbook, with the 13 inch screen in a 12 inch body, and expecially if they do the scolor schemes as the 2021 iMacs, I think they should ditch the AIR in the name and revive it as the Macbook. That M2 chip, the extra ports, and Magsafe will be the game changer.
I actually loved mine. For a laptop, I just wanted something that is as thin as possible and can ssh into my workstation (which ipads cannot). Yes, this computer even have trouble with Teams meeting and the keyboard keys randomly fail. I think instead of a new macbook 12, what really make sense and is easy to do is just give ipad pro macos and we can all ditch laptops.
this would be the absolute best computer in existence to have apple silicon
heck a 12 inch inch macbook could be cheaper than the air
@@EngiduckDon't even think about it. :) But it does not matter, it would be terrific anyway.
that MacBook was clearly conceived and designed on the predicate that Intel would deliver on their promises for low power silicon and it was a complete disaster on that front- not even considering the keyboard. I have no doubt this product was why Apple ditched Intel and bringing it back with a more angular industrial design language and competitive price would be a massive success.
also i feel like it was more designed for apple silicon but then released way too early
Yes I agree. Apple as a long history of designing products on unproven and sometimes even non existent technology as in this case.
@@alyx6427 i agree!
the m3 was definitely inefficient and underpowered, but they felt like their SOC wasn't nearly ready and had no choice but to rush it
The blame lies solely with Apple for designing and delivering a computer that is incapable of doing any meaningful tasks.
@@Evan_Rodgers tbh I wouldn't say that, an m3 MacBook can totally do most tasks perfectly fine and it's even capable of editing 4k videos!
Watch Jonathan Morrison's video on the 12" MacBook!
5:26 This entire 12" Macbook is about as powerful as just one single high performance core of the M1 lol
tbf, it only has 2 cores
it even downclocked under 1ghz
It’s only got 2 cores you mug
it's a 2 core, very low end intel CPU but with a very bad thermal, and sure it could have been the first to get an Axx CPU as test.
But all soldered, not expandable and only one port/power input makes it hard to use as main computer.
Woah you're right
I scored one of these in an 'untested' ebay auction for under $150. It's a 2017 with the i7 and 16 GB memory and a battery with good life left. It's honestly still very usable. I actually find myself gravitating towards it over my M1 Air for just web browsing and media consumption. The form factor is impressive, and I can very easily just carry it from room to room in one hand without even thinking about it!
I just love this computer, I still have four of them ranging from 2016 to 2017 models !
The "Macbook" is an ideal pc for many "C-Level" executives. I will be suprised if they don't bring it back. In fact one of my first thoughts during the introduction of Apple Silicon was that it would be perfect for the return of the "Macbook".
C-Level executives are narrow target group and for their laptop you don't need anything more than A12, well, A13.
@@piotrd.4850 Yes, that is likely true but all the "C-Level" executives I've met really want the latest/greatest/sexist tech to show off to fellow exec's. Sad because they don't really need it but somehow they believe it gives them status.
The ‘Macbook’ will not return. Instead, we will have a brand new ‘Macbook Air 12 inch’
@@Steven-fv8xw That makes no sense
@@s4lvin989 hear me out. 12 inch should be called Macbook (Air) Mini. 14 inch Macbook Pro, 15 inch Macbook (Air) 16 inch Macbook Pro Max. Just like iPhones 😂😂
This thing with an M1 would be insane. Still my favorite Mac I ever owned but a bit too slow.
i love this laptop so much. my friend has it and whenever i pick it up it feels so tiny and light compared to my mac.
i love it
Writing this from 2017 Macbook 12. The best machine so far. The keyboard is phenomenal and never gets stuck. The only issue is the temperature on the back. It does not overheat, but gets really close to that
Does it brows the web smoothly ?
@@kentinmorgan Yes. fantastic and seamless
I hate the butterfly keyboard; I prefer more traditional chicklet style keyboards. The best was the older keyboards laptops had from the late 1990's until the early 2010's, they were amazing to type on. I would gladly take a thick laptop to get that keyboard style back. I am a fully tactile typer and I don't get anything from the butterfly keyboard because its the key travel.
I can bet you don’t use the machine heavily if the keyboard is still intact and not causing typing frustrations.
What's the heaviest task you have done on it that it handled pretty well?
Luke, let me tell you something interesting. By the way of you saying these are weak. It seems to me the last iterations were not weak. Here's why.
I - a die hard fan of this model - have bought one of these in 2019. An 8gb 1.2 Ghz m3. It was like new in a 'Refurbished' branded box clearly from Apple, I didn't buy it from Apple but it was clearly not opened, i opened the box and it had the proper like a new one packiging with the plastic wrap around and the paper protection inbetween. I had another 2017 Macbook 16Gb 1.4 i7 in perfect working order, absolutely no issues which I still use today. The interesting fact is that this new one - the m3, the refurbished one - proved to be, after I done some tests in video editing and processing power tests - about 30-40 % faster. Think about it: weaker specs, a lot greater power. I can stil use it today for almost anything and it does the job. It doesn't stutter at anything. Even heavy processing. It's a lot slower than an m1 but it does the job and I still take pleasure in using it. I take it with me everywhere and it doesn't disappoint.
Isn't it interesting that both are branded 2017 but the one with the weaker specs, the refurbished one is a lot faster. I suspect they had continued to improve these up till 2019. And the ones from 2019 - at least mine - is amazing and still very much usable and not weak - even today. Isn't it amazing.
I hope they will listen to you and us and put some apple sillicon in these. We the ones who like these will be forever grateful to Apple. They were not just not terible - the later iterations - but also, these are the most beautiful colest slickest model of macbooks ever made. It would be a shame for Apple to give up on these light very portable beautiful Macbooks. Girls especially and us who carry one with us very often will be disappointed. The other models will not be taken as often outside because they are heavier. Even if they are as light as the m2 Macbook Air. Not as light as these.
Thanks, All the best.
This MacBook was the first to adopt the design trend of the MacBooks that came after it and what we use now. It has things the new MacBook kept and improved on. The 12 inch MacBook may have failed but what it set out to do lived on in better MacBooks. This 12 inch MacBook died so the M1 MacBook Air could live.
Used to own one of these.
Apart from shit specs it’s the best MacBook I have owned.
Unmatched in mobility.
The very best keyboard ever (I love minimal travel).
Apart from shitty specs my only issues was the heat and lack of ports.
I still have one of those and I love it!!!
I proudly used this macbook for 6 years, as a uni student it was perfect small light pretty powerful enough for word processing and research. However, now that i have my own business i needed something with more power so i was forced to get the M2 Air, ngl i was blown away with its speed. I am sad that the M2 air (apples thinnest and lightest) is literally thicker and heavier than a 7 year old laptop...
im still using the 12inch MacBook, and still loving it
I have a 2015 and a 2017 purchased on ebay. The 2015 came with a new battery and keyboard. The 2017 will receive a software update from mac OS Big Sur to mac OS Monterey.
Same here. Got the 2015.when it came out , upgraded to 2017, and still my daily laptop. Current Air and Pro models are too big, so refresh would be nice.
@@jli213 if it does refresh, get ready for a 3-4x performance increase
@@phillipjames453 Yass I JUST BOUGHT A 2017 with the i5 and 512gb!
I think the most “prototype” thing about the 2015 is having to be connected to a 5V charger after any kind of disassembly, and the 480p webcam…
Yeesh, to think that even the outdated design 2nd Gen. MacBook Air with those aluminium white bezels at the time is equipped with 720p camera since 2012. Say what you will about Apple SoC advanced ISP but if your sensor is measly no amount of ISP real-time tweak can make that 480p that'll best a 720p sensor. Thank goodness we're getting 1080p camera upgrade moving forward that's long overdue on MacBook's side - even if it's too late in terms of adoption in regards to the iPad and iPhone line.
I always wanted a 12”. Even if they just used the same form factor and swapped in the m1 and the scissor keyboard I’d be all over it. But I’m hoping for something more like what you describe. Flat form factor, smaller bezels, and new color scheme.
They should’ve just added a silicon chip
Everything about the 12” MacBook was perfect, so much so that I find the M1 MacBooks way too bulky!! Loved that thin keyboard too! Delivered well on office apps, RUclips & safari..
Even the shitty 480p webcam? Keyboard issues? Logic board issues? etc etc etc
@@iCrackr Never had any issue with the keyboard or logic board! In fact I prefer that keyboard. The new keyboards hv 2much plastic, big bulky keys with too much movement. Webcams on all macs except the new iMac are crap! Best to use iPhones for video FaceTime or ipad.
@@Diablomeister1 if you like the butterfly keyboard there is something genuinely wrong with you.
@@YEETMAN-dt9mb Maybe u just need to mind ur business and not bother about what I like or don’t! The world is full of choices and we’re free to like whatever!! Maybe u don’t have that liberty but frankly I couldn’t care less !! The very fact that Apple introduced it commercially means a lot of people at Apple liked it too!! At least ALL the relevant ones.
@@Diablomeister1 What year was yours? The 2017 version apparently didn't have the same keyboard issues as the earlier iterations.
Yes
This MacBook was my daily driver for 4 years and I absolutely loved it in spite of its flaws.
Thanks!
As a 12 inch MacBook fan, I was thrilled to see this video in my notifications.
The MacBook Air M2 is that colorful laptop that never came to be colorful. But it still feels thicker and much larger and is still 35% heavier than the MB12”. So, I still think they should remake this one and with the tapered form factor, cause a squared one will give more volume and thus weight, or maybe not, the M2 Air has in fact more volume than the M1 Air, so they might be able to keep it down!
So fun facts, i did my entire law degree on an 12 inch macbook also nearly finished my mba. Ive actually purchased broken 12 inch macbooks to replace broken parts to keep mine going. I also travel alot and its perfect and light and reliable. I bought the new m1 its heavy and big.. apple needs to make another 12inch m2
I really hope Apple brings this back. Never owned any Mac myself. But a 12 inch Apple Silicon Macbook there's a high chance i would buy that.
There aren't that much choice for 12 inch laptop with such powerful cpu as M1. It might work for Apple
I love my MacBook 12”. I’m probably going to get the battery replaced soon (I last did this two years ago) before Apple’s usual cutoff for servicing older machines, and make this thing last as long as it possibly can.
Hey Eric, after how many battery cycles are you planning to get a battery replacement? How much are you at now?
This my idea since the M1 came out and I think they should call it the MacBook SE
Yes agreed bro
@@vihaansingha8340 thanks for feed back🙏🏻
But Apple should not use plastic for the case, like Microsoft does for their cheap laptop. It feels totally cheap and bad.
@@ruhri0411 I think maybe rather just add a chip that is a generation behind
but will there be a price cut like the ipone se
I love the 12"MB. I own two, both 2017 model with 16GB RAM.
Makes perfect sense Luke. Excellent video. I hope you’re right!
They need to bring this back with an A14 or even an A13 Chip at 800 dollars and an improved butterfly keyboard or maybe make it a bit thicker for magic keyboard and add another USB-C
with another usb it seizes to be what it was. For me, heck, also with the magic keyboard. I've daily driven a 2019 mbp and the keys are not half bad
for me to hit that mark they could also user a lower-res display, like the old chonky mbps that had bad resolution and an improvement option
@@ThoughtsInVideo why it literally was the best retina display at the time💀
So, the MacBook Air
@@AJ-wg7fj there’s literally no reason for the air to exist to be honest it’s thicker then a pro at it’s thickest just have the same 12 in chasis and increase the display size market it as a 12.9-13 in and name it as macbook (2022) and have the apple m series chips be a generation behind and sell it at 799
All things considered, I think this was a bit of a stepping stone to getting where we are today. But for me, it’s not forgotten. Sure, it’s slow as heck for higher end tasks, but for my fiction writing and average daily tasks it’s just so damn portable. I picked up a 512 GB model on the secondary market and don’t even mind the keyboard on a laptop this small and thin. If Apple loaded an M1 chip in there, and upgraded the keyboard, I would be very tempted to buy a new one. But having just bought a 13 inch M1 MacBook Air, will a new 12 inch become superfluous? Once we get M2 chips, maybe at the right price point with an M1 chip installed in the same form factor, I could see the 12 in model making its return and becoming the new budget mini laptop in the same way last years IPhone SE gave people a fairly decent phone at a fraction of the cost of higher end iPhones. Then I could see it becoming a potentially strong seller most people could do some real work on and even trashing those useless budget laptops with older chips at places like Walmart that people keep investing and reinvesting in as their daily drivers.
the Gen 2/Gen 3 Air that went on to sell like a gorillion units in the 2010s was ahead of the MBP until the Retina 13" Pros came out in 2013. For like a good 3 years if you wanted Apple's best 13" computer, with much faster storage, better battery, and a higher-resolution display (1440p vs 1280x800), along with being much much smaller, you got a Macbook Air instead of a Macbook Pro. It quickly became the budget option and then was allowed to lag, but there's no rule that says that Apple has to treat it like a second-class citizen. I'd love to see the MacBook name return and I appreciate the simplicity of MacBook/MacBook Pro and nothing else, but I don't see how the 13" MacBook you decribed differentiates itself enough (unless Apple also makes a 15" version like some have rumored, lol)
Soo you liked the MB AIR? If so what year & model
@@IAMGWH1 I had a 2011 13” Air that I loved until I replaced it with a 2013 15” retina Pro. My mother still uses the Air.
@@cartilagehead
Great either of them & I did the same buying a waiting 2014 13” rMBP cheap ($113) but with issues a badly cracked screen soo I’m looking for a “for parts” cadaver to salvage a screen bcuz they’re very expensive. If I knew that I’d waited to buy a fully working one. Meanwhile my used “new to me” 2015 15” MB AIR (perfect condition except 128gb HD) is getting the job done. Thanks!
We love the super portability of this. Please bring it back!
I love the 12” form factor. It’s the perfect size and weight to throw into a bag, walk all day and forget you are caring a notebook. As a secondary machine works pretty well.
I used 12" for school before. It is much better. Definitely feel lighter. Lighter than ipad with keyboard.
5:02 let's talk about how he was tossing that in the air
It can come back now and be given an M-chip.
I’d rather they brought the 11” Air back with Retina display and the new keyboard.
That would be great. When I measured the lid on my 11" Air, it looked like you could almost get a 13" screen in there, if the bezels were ultra thin.
I have to admit, I really love the size and weight of my 11" Macbook Air
@@addsimpson1 and if they could price it at like 699$ or 799$ like the Mac Mini? Those would sell like hotcakes.
I'm using this right now and it works great
As a 12” MacBook fan, I agree Apple needs to bring it back! Just do it already!
Agreed
Recently sold mine for an iMac. The only way I'd go back for the 12" is if they fixed the butterfly keyboard.
64 GB Memory turned out to be true!!
I had two of those. I gave the first one to a teacher friend of mine who needed a laptop and still uses it with no problems. And I bought the second one "refurbished" from Amazon but gave it to my niece that needed a laptop for school. That second one had a failing keyboard and it quit working. But the first one (the oldest one) it still very much alive and kicking. Of course, these were not meant for power users.
Currently typing from a 12" Retina i7 16gb, the claim that a couple of chrome tabs will melt your lap is absurd. I regularly have like 5 or 6 windows, with 10 tabs each in them, while playing youtube videos. I've played GTA 5 Online (low settings) with it, use Logic Pro on it every day to record 16+ channels of drum tracks + 20 other track, and have even used it for light video editing. Best computer I've ever owned, it feels more than competent for anything I can imagine throwing at it outside of serious gaming and video editing. Though yeah, I'd love to see M1in this form factor.
I would just want the same design just better keyboard and apple silicon!
Thinner bezels too.
@@cidsx no I think the bezel is fine in my opinion!
@@IKEAsharkBBL it would look nicer with smaller ones though. More screen for the size as well.
@@cidsx well then it would just be the new redesigned MacBook like Luke is saying😅
Bring it back and call it “MacBook SE”, keep it on the M1
I was very close to nabbing one, but the price / performance trade off was just too steep. This felt like the future version of my 12” PowerBook, which still stands as my favorite laptop from an emotional perspective.
Apparently, a lot of people run Windows on them, due to the Core M being so slow.
I have one from 2015 and 2016. And love them. They are super fast and have had no issues.
I cannot wait to see this become a reality..
Came for the thumbnail, stayed for that phat beat in the intro montage
Yes, please! A 12” MacBook and an iPad Pro would cover all of my computing needs without breaking my back.
I never understood why the "MacBook" ended up thinner and smaller than the "MacBook Air" at the time...
"Air" means "more affordable" nowadays
MacBook and MacBook Air are only SHORT LIFE that's why most people tend to buy MacBook Pro more long term! My personal to use MacBook Pro 16 inch for today! I had MacBook Pro 2011 and MacBook Pro 2014 too! Love them models I never had to buy MacBook or MacBook Air since my family member bought them few months later they have too many problem issues.
@@jromero.337 Instead, with my 16 inch I had so many hardware problems that I'm going crazy
@@Ale-bx9en oh ok I have under the AppleCare so they can repair with my laptop but twice time free bee laptop it’s replacement! Since it’s pretty much better!
I remember walking to a store with these in display back when it came out, some guy was testing it and the keyboard broke, it started typing out random shit on its own, he just backed away from it and left asap. otherwise, this was absolutely beautiful of a design
I have one of these, and I still love it. Portable, and useful.
It overheats too easily. Just upgraded to a macbook pro from a macbook 12 in. retina.
I'd like the 12" retina MB if it had a non-butterly keyboard and Apple Silicon M1 inside.
i like one thing most luke literally installed cinebench in this laptop 😂
Watching this on my 2016 12" Macbook. Love it, it still serves, and I'd love a new one
Oh wow so this is a Macbook? Damn I saw one of these in a clothing shop. A clerk had it on her desk and I was looking at it like “Damn, that’s a smaller macbook, how cool is that?” But I had no idea that it even existed. So I asked the girl what it was and she said it was a macbook. I was like “No sh.t, I tought it was a lenovo…” but anyways, I thanked her for the information and headed home dejected. And now, years later, I found out she was actually helpful and I’m glad I wasn’t rude.
I have a 2014 11” MBA and I love it. Even though I have a very large hands, I find typing on it quite easy. This is before the butterfly keyboard. I think that the analogy of an iPad that runs macOS is exactly what I am looking for. Fast processor, all day battery life, built-in full-sized keyboard, no fans. That is the cat’s meow
I sincerely trust you man. After being Ipad Pro only for three years I bought a 2015 16 gb RAM, SSD 256GB pro from Backmarket and I'm extremely happy. The only issue I have is dealing with things that need to connect with thunderbolt 3. I saw this 12" on backmarket and I almost bought it to travel with, but I thought I'd check with you first so glad I did. I upgraded my SSD to 1TB myself and I'm so happy . Keep making videos thank you so much.
From my understanding they tried to use the same CPU's from iphone/ipad in them but was not happy with the performance on macOS on it so seems like they decided to take the design they already made and slap intel based system inside it instead, honestly they should have just waited as the itel chips in this Mac can run too hot at times
I had a MacBook and loved the design of it, even the keyboard was fine in my experience. I actually would like to see that shallow keyboard come back, as long as it is reliable. I think you might be right Luke, and it will be nice to see.
I think the 12.9 M1 iPad Pro is already enough to replace the purpose of the 12 inch MacBook, it also with a better display,higher refresh rate.12 inch is rather too small for college student
it would be nice to have a MacBook for that size tho, as it's a full computer that can run macOS
Oh man! You're right I guess! Then it also makes sense why the rumors are that this device get colors and a white bezzle. Because the Macbook (except the aluminum 2008, the black one and the 12" Retina) was every time a white colored device. But if this is true I will missing the tapered design but we've to say goodbye to this good old design times for now. Thank you for your hope to get my loved 12" macbook in a little different style back.
There's no reason for 12" MacBook - Make 13" with small bezels and build it around A13 or A12. This additional inch makes a world of the difference for KEYBOARD.
Oh yes, completely agree, I still own mine and it is my favorite Mac by far …. This would be such a good fit for an M1 … come on Apple 12, 14, 16 makes so much sense!
I borrowed a 2015 base model 12 inch MacBook from my school for the year and I like the weight of it a lot. It is even lighter than my iPad Pro 10.5 with keyboard cover and pencil, and the form factor made typing better than on an iPad.
The performance really suffer but installing Windows 11 does make it somewhat usable for web browsing.
Thats what I thought when Prosser showed the colored ones. MacBook s coming back, and Im dieing to see put my hands on it.
Watching this while waiting for the Apple Event, let’s hope this lovely machine comes back!
im still rocking my 2017 rosegold 12 inch with the m5 and i love it! and after 4 years i got the keyboard replaced for free!
My gf has it. the 2017 model, m3 cpu, 8gb ram and 256 storage.
It's okay for office work. But if you want anything more - you wait. A lot.
The 12“ Retina Macbook was the preview of the M1 13“ MacBook Air, and was years before its time…
Imagine what we could have now if Apple would produce its own SoC´s for years?!
I thought the same when the “mass MacBook” was announced
Watching this video on my 2016 MacBook 12" which has been my main Mac for the last 5 years. I have it connected to a 4K LG display which it can run at full resolution at 60Hz while also driving its own retina screen at the same time. It has never failed me and even now I get great battery life and great usability out of this little Mac. If Apple introduce an M1 version I will be first in line to order one. Love it.
Honestly I'd like if they took that chassis, cut the bezels to a ~13 inch screen, added a second port, threw in an M1, and just called it the refreshed MacBook air. Honestly the fact that the "MacBook" was the ludicrously thin one and "air" just meant budget was confusing as all hell. Sure, we know at this point Apple doesn't give a shit what things should be called, but I think it would be easy and make a ton of sense.
I'm a bit confused. Is Luke saying that this new "Macbook" would eventually replace the Macbook Air line entirely, or that there would be three different styles of Macbooks (along with the iPad Pro)? Would there be a need for three different models when you have the Air for the basics, the Pro for anything requiring greater capability, and the iPad Pro which can also cover basics plus offer the ability to write or draw on the screen?
i feel like it would for it become more simple
I'm still using the 2017 version. No issues at all and technically the performance is more than enough for me (safari, office suite, affinity suite, light FCP editing). It's a beautiful device, not for hardcore users which is an absolute stupidity if you're one of those and purchased this laptop but it caters towards users like us who really needs an ultra portable device that can get the job done.
New MacBook 12 should be equipped with A series SoC
Well the M1 is what A14X should have been, so I think it’s just a different name for the same thing
I had 2015 version back in the day. What a beast for office work, small weight, good battery life, made my work so much easier. Unfortunately, died last year and sold for parts. But I really love this form factor. Paired with LG 4K usb-c monitor really pure joy to work.
So I was so hyped about the rumours about new 12 inch MacBook on new apple arm chip for 899. Aaaand it didn’t happened. Still waiting a new 12 inch.
I used my 2016 12-inch Macbook for five years, til the day it won't turn on anymore. I love it because it is so portable: it's like an iPad but a Macbook.
the naming of it though. I feel like because apple has the "ipad" which is cheaper than the "ipad air" (which is thinner and lighter) they should have the macbook as cheap, colourful and aimed at students and the macbook air with a bit of a redesign as the slightly cheaper alternative to the pro and just lacks the m1x chip. I hope this time they will match the naming scheme to the ipad's one because it could be very confusing for the average consumer.
Yes. Totally agree.
Apple should fix the nomenclatures.
People have almost forgotten this model. It’s a good time to make it the $750 8/256 LCD sRGB “MacBook se” than make it a MacBook 13” to replace MacBook Pro 13”.
Basically like the iPhone SE or 300$ iPad
The best fix would probably be
$750 : M1 MacBook 12”. 8/256 with sRGB LCD.
$1000 : M2 MacBook Air 14”, 8/256 P3 LCD
$1300 : M2 MacBook Air 16”, 8/256, P3 miniLED.
$1800 : M1X MBP14” (16/512) P3 miniLED with 16c GPU at base price.
$2400 : M1X MBP16” (16/512) P3 miniLED with 32cGPU at base price.
@Leave me alone how much better can you make a 1440p screen at 12” which was already dci P3?
I don’t see why apple should put a 4K at 12” just cause justify pricing.
12” MacBook should be forgotten as the “premium MacBook Air with worse performance than the MacBook Air and pro” and reintroduced as a budget MacBook with worse specs than MacBook Air for 750$.
The trackpad is so good
I bought it two years ago as a refurb from Apple France. It’s the 2017 16GB / 512 GB i7.
Still using it daily, but I’m being real gentle with it :-)
Praying that it keeps on working, because the size and weight are unbeatable.
Have you had any issues with it at all?
@@ClayMationNation absolutely none, but as I’ve said I’m really gentle with it
I was just thinking about that
I love how it looks but it’s pretty much useless
An apple silicon version + proper keyboard + at least 2 thunderbolts would be 🔥
Around 2018ish I remember this was the same price as a pro but worse in every way aside from form factor and both the pro and the "MacBook" were 100 more than the also underpowered air so I got a base pro because the others in comparison felt absurd. Now with M1 the pro feels like the overpriced model, how the turn tables have......
I was frankly expecting and hoping the 12" MacBook would gain the M1 chip and replace the MBA last year.
And then have it go for 999. Thats what they should have done
I was just thinking thus yesterday. MACBOOK 12 inch was absolutely unique and frankly more powerful than people thought, obviously not a workstation but with 16gb ram very capable.
I loved these. Bring it back apple!!!
I have a pre ordered 2015 MacBook and I have gotten my masters and wrote many papers with this MacBook. Not once has it failed on me.
It is exactly the point of my comment on a previous video. I never ever believed even one sec that this new design would be to replace the Macbook Air which just received new design 2 years ago and M1 chips last year, it is not adpated for the Macbook pro family. I remember Apple saying sometime ago that the Macbook was not dead.... The M1 gave them the capacity to reestablish the full family of products: Macbook Air, Macbook and Macbook Pro.
😄 you described the MacBook Air asked to bring it back..
What’s the difference between the 12” MacBook and the recent MacBook Air?
@DChannel you mean like macbook air..? Notice that I asked for differences, not similarities.
The stupid obsession with the name of "Macbook 12" vs "Macbook Air" seems to be whole point of this video. The core doesn't change. He described Macbook Air and then spent like 5 minutes saying that "it actually won't be macbook air, it will be "Macbook" :D.
When I was in college many bought this one because of how light it was and didn't take up too much space in backpacks.
So we think he’s gonna discuss Apple’s new privacy invasion iCloud scanning issue?
I hope so
Probably on the podcast.
I think if they do want to bring it back only for one run they should make the pro the air and the regular MacBooks have the same design so they can go the own way and then they have a fresh start with a fresh new design
Here I am getting excited about a MacBook laptop I will never get in a million years lol. I need the MacBook Pro for power, and I’ll use my iPad for on the go easy work. This item has no place in my workflow, but I sure love to look at it.
What ticked me off was what they did with the MacBook Air this year. That would’ve been a perfect time to simply call it MacBook, especially with the redesign. I would’ve been the perfect M2 MacBook.Why not make the naming convention the same like it used to be; iMac - PowerMac; iBook - PowerBook, iPhone - iPhone Pro, iPad - iPad Pro, MacBook - MacBook Pro.
I have one. For me, seeing 2021 tech, When they release the next consumer Macbook, with the 13 inch screen in a 12 inch body, and expecially if they do the scolor schemes as the 2021 iMacs, I think they should ditch the AIR in the name and revive it as the Macbook. That M2 chip, the extra ports, and Magsafe will be the game changer.
I actually loved mine. For a laptop, I just wanted something that is as thin as possible and can ssh into my workstation (which ipads cannot). Yes, this computer even have trouble with Teams meeting and the keyboard keys randomly fail. I think instead of a new macbook 12, what really make sense and is easy to do is just give ipad pro macos and we can all ditch laptops.
The MacBook, the peak of Ive’s hubris tbh, the butterfly keyboard is kind of a warning lesson in contemporary industrial design discussion.
A 12” MacBook with an A14 chip and the Magic Keyboard that costs around $800 would be a killer laptop to own.
Without a doubt if that came out, a 12 inch MacBook, space gray, fixed keyboard, fixed issues, M1 or whatever comes next in it. I would buy it.