Absolutely love the ping g425 max driver that I got a couple months ago. Doesn’t sound good like you were saying but hard to knock off points when you hit almost every fairway. If you look at the old 425 ads, it has 10k moi just like the new 430 max 10k. I finally broke down and bought one and I don’t feel like I’ll have to upgrade drivers for 10+ years
That's what I've heard, I've heard that that ping driver is the real deal when it comes to accuracy. That's such an amazing help to so many golfers if they can afford it.
For the money, that driver was one of the best values I ever hit. Bought one shipped for about $140 back in 2022. Can't beat that price! For me, that driver just wanted to go straight. Mizuno STX 230 is my gamer now. Just gave me more carry due to better launch and spin numbers. Shaft is the key on any driver. Not just flex but weight and kick points. 3 stiff flex could have 3 totally different numbers. Match up launch, spin and the carry will be there. My STX-230 now has a regular flex Ascent shaft. It is a butt and mid section stiffer but kick point is softer. My DSS is 98-102. I trusted the fitter and it has gained me 6-8 carry yards.
I think you could run that driver head, just change your shaft. The shaft or ball is the culprit of the spinny floater shot, not the head. I got a PXG 0811 this year and Im absolutely loving it. It is hands down the most forgiving driver ive ever hit, and it has the exact same dull muted sound.
@@GolfBallAddict meh, not likely a large contribution, but if you knock the spin down youd carry +10 more yards and be in the fairway... Could always play a slightly faster ball too.
A couple of years ago, I picked up a PXG Gen 5 when it was on sale. I got fitted later. I have really enjoyed it. If you are a veteran or first responder, definitely get in on their Hero's program if you are considering anything PXG.
Go checkout the new Mizuno ST 230 Max driver. It is not a draw biased club but yet very forgiving and the best part is it just dropped to $299 yet is a 2024 release. You can also still get fitted for it as well as I just got mine from Golf Galaxy.
I highly recommend Mizuno ST-G 220 (9*). It has the fully adjustable weights and I can set it to 11* which closes face and still hit fades by setting weights to fade (my miss is pull hook naturally). I hate loud and it's not that loud outside. I paid $230 shipped new with Hzrds Blue in early 2023. eBay listing for head only is $90+$11 right now. (Also $190 new with shaft.) Get that and sell the X...you can set it to draw when you want that. I play Srixon Z-star Divide b/c I tend to spin driver below 2000. I think you would like this driver a lot with Q-stars...smash factor in the 1.45 range with 15* and 2000 and your carry will be more than the total on the PXG. I used my previous non adjustable driver for over 10 years and it still is at the legal COR limit...I don't believe there is that much to be gained dropping $$$ on new drivers. Recently found your channel and enjoyed Top 10/20 & Overrated.👍
I game PXG irons, driver and 3-wood. Recently upgraded to the Gen 6 XF driver/3-wood from the Gen 4 and am really loving the forgiveness, accuracy, feel and sound. And the Gen 6 equipment was all reviewed very very well when it was released two years ago. Now that PXG has released a new driver line, Gen 6 drivers can be had for $450. I have it set up for draw-bias and it is unbelievable the yardage and accuracy I get on mis-hits off the toe and heel. Can't recommend enough. Got fitted for all of it, which was both fun and super super helpful in getting the most out of the gear. Good luck with the 0211! It's a great club for a great price.
It really is. Currently, it's $25 to get fit and that fee is applied to your purchase, if you buy the club. With the adjustable weights in a Gen6 driver, the choices of stock shafts and the adjustable sleeve that the 0211 doesn't have, you're going to see a big upgrade in performance beyond the older 0211, especially. Plus, the dynamic loft of the 0211 is really set up to get the ball in the air, so it's going to balloon, thus less rollout. If you have a military or background as a first-responder, you can get a Gen6 driver for $350. Also, since you're an influencer, you may also be given a discount. PXG has partnered with quite few online reviewers who make independent content, so I would definitely look into it. Good luck!
Appreciate the great review. I bought this driver in Oct 2022 with a Project X Cypher shaft for $127 delivered. The sound and feel is moderate to below-average in my opinion, but hard to beat the value overall.
That's fair. Not everyone will like the dead sound and feel. But I definitely agree with the value. It's hard to argue too hard with all that stuff when you get it for such an amazing price
I agree about fitting. I've already shaved about 6 strokes consistently after my fitted purchase, but there is still a ton of work for me to do. However, it is nice knowing that when i do step up to the next level as a golfer, my driver will still be more capable than me. I have had my eye on the paradym since it came out and I picked that up at a large discount thanks to the Smoke. If i hadn't gone that route i would be looking at the overlooked brands for a driver. Like Wilson, Srixon, or Tour Edge Exotics. I also found that i hit the Stealth line pretty well. You may also consider the Cobra Areojet since their whole claim with that driver was club head/ ball speed gains.
I read a lot of Reddit about draw bias drivers fixing people’s slices and changing the game for them. The Ping 425 comes into conversation a lot. Me… only a year into it and game the lucky 13 Nike Sasquatch and the only wood I hit good is an old Callaway 7 heavenwood. We’re making it work 💯
I guess that's kind of my problem. I have never had an issue with a slice. My drives have always been pretty consistently straight. Maybe that's why I didn't need the draw bias
I'm currently without a driver. My swing has somehow changed recently, and cannot seem to hit straight anymore. Not sure what my next step is, and might just take a break for a while. Plus, it doesn't help that it's 200 degrees outside here in Central Florida either. Enjoyable video though with good info. Thanks.
I understand. Sometimes if you can hit a 3 Wood good enough you can get 210 to 250 and that makes sense for some. Driver is a completely different swing
@@toddkirch613$13k, wow. For that $$$, you should get to take home a launch monitor as well. I hope they covered the $4k of taxes as that alone would be a lot for clubs. Must be quite an experience!
I’m currently playing this driver. Mine is 43.5” long and has 12 degrees of loft. It’s a fairway finder. n.b. When you adjust the loft on this driver it opens the face on all settings.
Oh that's good to know. Thank you so much for sharing that information. I really did enjoy the feel. I definitely want to check out their newer drivers too
The same thing happened to me when I went to Mizuno to get fitted. I had hit my friends Mizuno Pro 221 pretty well I wanted to get new irons. I figured the Pro 221 would be the best I could do but likely get the JPX line. I got so nervous and hit the ball so inconsistenly that they told me I would be suited for the hybrid irons.
It's such an anxiety overload. Especially when you start hitting them bad. You try to tell them that you don't normally play this bad, but they hear that a hundred times a day and you can tell by the look on their face.
@@GolfBallAddict I don't know if you have a PXG location down near you but I had a MUCH better experience with my PXG fitting. At the beginning, the guy basically left me alone for like 5-6 minutes to hit balls by myself. I was able to get dialed in to my normal strikes and then called him back in. There was way less pressure to hit the ball correctly right out of the gate. Although most of my stuff is Callaway, I would take PXG irons over any other irons (except for my Callaway Forged Epic irons that in the bag now.) I think they are going to bring out a next 0211 driver at the end of this year (based on them selling off all their current stock) so maybe wait until they bring it out and drop the price on the current drivers and get fitted at PXG.
Just a heads up. I currently play the Qi10 standard at 9* and like it a lot I have 95 mph swing. I got the Diamana stock shaft and had it shortened by .25”. However yesterday I grabbed a Demo Ping G430 10k at 9* and took it on the course. I gained about 10 yards but I had heard that it was fade biased and sure enough it did or at least seemed to. Might want to demo it as well as the Qi 10. Unfortunately they are both pricy.
Throwing this idea out…try an older driver to save some $$$. I have the Ping 400 Max and it was performing just as well as the new version and Callaway paradym during a recent testing I had. It seems to me you are not going to find that much difference between a club today vs just a few years ago. Like the Sim 2 Max is available for less than $300 and perform just as well as the latest.
Can you do a video suggesting which ball is best for each swing speed. Seems to be really complicated with 3 peice 2 peice 4 peice balls and compression factors.
Watching your swing, it also looks to me as if you are set-up a little closed from the hips down. Basically you are somewhat set-up to hit a draw. Try opening up your stance a little. Might help. Sometimes the issues we're having are somewhat minor. Good luck Sir. 😎
You are 100% on the money. Thank you so much. I actually noticed this while I was editing this video. It's so important to film yourself sometimes swinging so you can see this kind of thing. Over the last couple days I have been moving my right foot back to just promote a little more into out and my goodness the results are incredible. Again, I appreciate it so much 😃
Absolutely. The shaft that came with it is a hazardous smoke. Low launch and low spin, the shaft that is on my Mizuno that I was fitted for is a Fujikara. Medium to high launch. I think that will be better for me
No because it's not the clubs expensive new or cheap 40 yrs old it all comes down to the golfer if all this new expensive equipment with all this technology works then how come the 90 percent of us still shoot 100 plus it's all a marketing ploy for them to make money...
Absolutely love the ping g425 max driver that I got a couple months ago. Doesn’t sound good like you were saying but hard to knock off points when you hit almost every fairway. If you look at the old 425 ads, it has 10k moi just like the new 430 max 10k. I finally broke down and bought one and I don’t feel like I’ll have to upgrade drivers for 10+ years
That's what I've heard, I've heard that that ping driver is the real deal when it comes to accuracy. That's such an amazing help to so many golfers if they can afford it.
For the money, that driver was one of the best values I ever hit. Bought one shipped for about $140 back in 2022. Can't beat that price! For me, that driver just wanted to go straight. Mizuno STX 230 is my gamer now. Just gave me more carry due to better launch and spin numbers. Shaft is the key on any driver. Not just flex but weight and kick points. 3 stiff flex could have 3 totally different numbers. Match up launch, spin and the carry will be there. My STX-230 now has a regular flex Ascent shaft. It is a butt and mid section stiffer but kick point is softer. My DSS is 98-102. I trusted the fitter and it has gained me 6-8 carry yards.
That's awesome. I definitely agree that a good fitting is the key for maximizing your clubs. Sounds like you've proven that 😁
You also might try to find an "older" Mizuno STz. I have one, and I love it.
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I do have a soft spot for the mizuno's
I think you could run that driver head, just change your shaft. The shaft or ball is the culprit of the spinny floater shot, not the head. I got a PXG 0811 this year and Im absolutely loving it. It is hands down the most forgiving driver ive ever hit, and it has the exact same dull muted sound.
I thought about that, I do have a question though, with the shaft be the culprit also of loss of ball speed?
@@GolfBallAddict meh, not likely a large contribution, but if you knock the spin down youd carry +10 more yards and be in the fairway... Could always play a slightly faster ball too.
A couple of years ago, I picked up a PXG Gen 5 when it was on sale. I got fitted later. I have really enjoyed it. If you are a veteran or first responder, definitely get in on their Hero's program if you are considering anything PXG.
I have some friends that are military and the discount makes it a no brainer.
Go checkout the new Mizuno ST 230 Max driver. It is not a draw biased club but yet very forgiving and the best part is it just dropped to $299 yet is a 2024 release. You can also still get fitted for it as well as I just got mine from Golf Galaxy.
How much was Golf Galaxy's fitting session?
@@commonman317 I did not pay anything as I was allowed to hit it in the bay as they were not busy.
I love mizuno's driver line so I will definitely be checking this out
I highly recommend Mizuno ST-G 220 (9*). It has the fully adjustable weights and I can set it to 11* which closes face and still hit fades by setting weights to fade (my miss is pull hook naturally). I hate loud and it's not that loud outside. I paid $230 shipped new with Hzrds Blue in early 2023. eBay listing for head only is $90+$11 right now. (Also $190 new with shaft.) Get that and sell the X...you can set it to draw when you want that.
I play Srixon Z-star Divide b/c I tend to spin driver below 2000. I think you would like this driver a lot with Q-stars...smash factor in the 1.45 range with 15* and 2000 and your carry will be more than the total on the PXG.
I used my previous non adjustable driver for over 10 years and it still is at the legal COR limit...I don't believe there is that much to be gained dropping $$$ on new drivers.
Recently found your channel and enjoyed Top 10/20 & Overrated.👍
Tons of really good information in this comment. I really appreciate that! 😃
Interesting video Nick. I've read the comments and there sure are many options out there. Good luck in your driver search.
Thank you very much. There's a video coming out soon of what I ended up with
I game PXG irons, driver and 3-wood. Recently upgraded to the Gen 6 XF driver/3-wood from the Gen 4 and am really loving the forgiveness, accuracy, feel and sound.
And the Gen 6 equipment was all reviewed very very well when it was released two years ago. Now that PXG has released a new driver line, Gen 6 drivers can be had for $450. I have it set up for draw-bias and it is unbelievable the yardage and accuracy I get on mis-hits off the toe and heel. Can't recommend enough.
Got fitted for all of it, which was both fun and super super helpful in getting the most out of the gear.
Good luck with the 0211! It's a great club for a great price.
Awesome stuff. I have heard the pxg experience is pretty amazing
It really is. Currently, it's $25 to get fit and that fee is applied to your purchase, if you buy the club.
With the adjustable weights in a Gen6 driver, the choices of stock shafts and the adjustable sleeve that the 0211 doesn't have, you're going to see a big upgrade in performance beyond the older 0211, especially.
Plus, the dynamic loft of the 0211 is really set up to get the ball in the air, so it's going to balloon, thus less rollout.
If you have a military or background as a first-responder, you can get a Gen6 driver for $350. Also, since you're an influencer, you may also be given a discount. PXG has partnered with quite few online reviewers who make independent content, so I would definitely look into it.
Good luck!
Appreciate the great review. I bought this driver in Oct 2022 with a Project X Cypher shaft for $127 delivered. The sound and feel is moderate to below-average in my opinion, but hard to beat the value overall.
That's fair. Not everyone will like the dead sound and feel. But I definitely agree with the value. It's hard to argue too hard with all that stuff when you get it for such an amazing price
I agree about fitting. I've already shaved about 6 strokes consistently after my fitted purchase, but there is still a ton of work for me to do. However, it is nice knowing that when i do step up to the next level as a golfer, my driver will still be more capable than me. I have had my eye on the paradym since it came out and I picked that up at a large discount thanks to the Smoke. If i hadn't gone that route i would be looking at the overlooked brands for a driver. Like Wilson, Srixon, or Tour Edge Exotics. I also found that i hit the Stealth line pretty well. You may also consider the Cobra Areojet since their whole claim with that driver was club head/ ball speed gains.
I've always been a cobra guy low key. My first really nice driver ever bought was the f9 and I love that thing
@GolfBallAddict I also really like cobra. My current set, that I am slowly upgrading, is the Cobra fly xl.
I read a lot of Reddit about draw bias drivers fixing people’s slices and changing the game for them. The Ping 425 comes into conversation a lot. Me… only a year into it and game the lucky 13 Nike Sasquatch and the only wood I hit good is an old Callaway 7 heavenwood. We’re making it work 💯
I guess that's kind of my problem. I have never had an issue with a slice. My drives have always been pretty consistently straight. Maybe that's why I didn't need the draw bias
cheers Nick, i have one of these - can't beat the value - custom fitted £216 aft military discount compared to Titleist etc £500+
I have some military friends that are all about that discount. I think that's such a cool thing pxg does
By the way thank you for your service 😃
I'm currently without a driver. My swing has somehow changed recently, and cannot seem to hit straight anymore. Not sure what my next step is, and might just take a break for a while. Plus, it doesn't help that it's 200 degrees outside here in Central Florida either. Enjoyable video though with good info. Thanks.
I understand. Sometimes if you can hit a 3 Wood good enough you can get 210 to 250 and that makes sense for some. Driver is a completely different swing
My whole set is PXG. Gen 5. Love them. 2 years ago I won a sweepstakes full set, fitting. Customized completely and paid nothing $13,000 value.
@@toddkirch613$13k, wow. For that $$$, you should get to take home a launch monitor as well. I hope they covered the $4k of taxes as that alone would be a lot for clubs. Must be quite an experience!
That's awesome. Opportunity of a lifetime 😃
Love the channel , thanks for the reviews
Anytime. Thank you so much for watching and commenting. It helps the channel so much 😃
Try a used driving iron? The PXG has a good one especially for 2024! Sounds good through my headphones Nick! Thanks for this piece!
I would have to see what the numbers are but I am open to anything
I’m currently playing this driver. Mine is 43.5” long and has 12 degrees of loft. It’s a fairway finder. n.b. When you adjust the loft on this driver it opens the face on all settings.
Oh that's good to know. Thank you so much for sharing that information. I really did enjoy the feel. I definitely want to check out their newer drivers too
The same thing happened to me when I went to Mizuno to get fitted. I had hit my friends Mizuno Pro 221 pretty well I wanted to get new irons. I figured the Pro 221 would be the best I could do but likely get the JPX line. I got so nervous and hit the ball so inconsistenly that they told me I would be suited for the hybrid irons.
It's such an anxiety overload. Especially when you start hitting them bad.
You try to tell them that you don't normally play this bad, but they hear that a hundred times a day and you can tell by the look on their face.
@@GolfBallAddict I don't know if you have a PXG location down near you but I had a MUCH better experience with my PXG fitting. At the beginning, the guy basically left me alone for like 5-6 minutes to hit balls by myself. I was able to get dialed in to my normal strikes and then called him back in. There was way less pressure to hit the ball correctly right out of the gate. Although most of my stuff is Callaway, I would take PXG irons over any other irons (except for my Callaway Forged Epic irons that in the bag now.) I think they are going to bring out a next 0211 driver at the end of this year (based on them selling off all their current stock) so maybe wait until they bring it out and drop the price on the current drivers and get fitted at PXG.
My PXG fitter is amazing. I hate Golf Galaxy and do everything I can to avoid their stores with their lousy customer service.
Just a heads up. I currently play the Qi10 standard at 9* and like it a lot I have 95 mph swing. I got the Diamana stock shaft and had it shortened by .25”.
However yesterday I grabbed a Demo Ping G430 10k at 9* and took it on the course. I gained about 10 yards but I had heard that it was fade biased and sure enough it did or at least seemed to. Might want to demo it as well as the Qi 10. Unfortunately they are both pricy.
Hey that's awesome. I appreciate the feedback. I can actually get the qi-10 for a pretty decent deal.
Throwing this idea out…try an older driver to save some $$$. I have the Ping 400 Max and it was performing just as well as the new version and Callaway paradym during a recent testing I had.
It seems to me you are not going to find that much difference between a club today vs just a few years ago. Like the Sim 2 Max is available for less than $300 and perform just as well as the latest.
That's not a bad idea. I've seen a couple drivers be on sale due to 4th of July and I'm super interested because the price is so good 😃🤔
Hate to sound cheap or oversimplify but wouldn't it be easy to see if lead tape on the Mizuno's toe area might lessen the draw/hook bias?
That's not a bad idea.
I have the Mizuno STX 230 and my miss is always left. Just got the ST 230Max going out this week to see
Please let me know your findings. I would love to know how the max compares
Can you do a video suggesting which ball is best for each swing speed. Seems to be really complicated with 3 peice 2 peice 4 peice balls and compression factors.
Yes I am working on this. It eventually will be done I just wanted to be done right
The new PXG Black Ops Driver is the real deal!!
That's what I've heard. Thank you so much for sharing 😃
Cobra Aerojet is worth checking out. I think a used one is 150-200 bucks.
I've always liked he been a cobra guy. Love my f9
Gotta try the ST Max. On sale now for $299. Low spin for a Max club!
I will definitely look into it. Thank you so much 😁
You would love the 0311 gen 5 you will get the distance back
I'm thinking about trying a Pxg fitting just to see how they are
James Robinson and guys love it
That's awesome! I trust those guys😃
Use a low spin ball to lower spin or drop the loft a notch
I'm going to try a different shaft too
Pxg 0211 is an excellent driver
Yeah I was very impressed. I thought pxg is on the right track for sure
Watching your swing, it also looks to me as if you are set-up a little closed from the hips down. Basically you are somewhat set-up to hit a draw. Try opening up your stance a little. Might help. Sometimes the issues we're having are somewhat minor.
Good luck Sir.
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You are 100% on the money. Thank you so much. I actually noticed this while I was editing this video. It's so important to film yourself sometimes swinging so you can see this kind of thing. Over the last couple days I have been moving my right foot back to just promote a little more into out and my goodness the results are incredible. Again, I appreciate it so much 😃
@@GolfBallAddict You are very welcome. Love the channel.
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I actually bought some of the Sugar g1 golf balls based on your recommendation. Can't wait to try them.
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I have owned two of the 0211 drivers and they’ve been excellent. They don’t cure a hook though.
They do when your hook is caused by a massively draw bias driver lol
Callaway Rogue Max is best for me.
Nice. I'll take a look!
It’s a great driver 2011
Yes. I would agree
A different shaft could make a big difference
Absolutely. The shaft that came with it is a hazardous smoke. Low launch and low spin, the shaft that is on my Mizuno that I was fitted for is a Fujikara. Medium to high launch. I think that will be better for me
@@GolfBallAddict it's amazing what the right shaft can do
No because it's not the clubs expensive new or cheap 40 yrs old it all comes down to the golfer if all this new expensive equipment with all this technology works then how come the 90 percent of us still shoot 100 plus it's all a marketing ploy for them to make money...
So i agree when it comes to ball speed and forgiveness you are correct, but the main point of the video was about fitting. Which does matter.