Zippo Or Vector Thunderbird Torch Insert
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- Опубликовано: 22 фев 2020
- Which one is better the Zippo or Vector Thunderbird torch insert? I have been using the Vector Thunderbird for years but once I saw that Zippo made their own insert I had to have one.
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I've had great success with my Thunderbird soft flame insert. It's the newer model with the clear plastic bottom. It fits a Walmart Zippo shell very snugly. It holds its butane and the flame adjustment works as it should. It's my "beater" EDC Zippo and has worked out well.
Yeah, I still really like the Vector Thunderbird I think it's a great option. I just like the fit and finish of the Zippo brand better. I also think clear plastic would be the way to go. The one thing I don't like about the Zippo brand is I can't see how much fuel I have left.
I’d definitely buy the zippo brand one. I should really pick some up before they are all gone. I have a few custom zippo’s but I only use them on special occasions. I am a smoker. I normally just use a bic lighter...
I usually use Bic lighters in the woods and keep the Zippo my pocket just for random things around the house or EDC.
I would definitely prefer the zippo metal one. I noticed in the picture they also had an arc insert...pretty cool. I need to pick one of these up.
I saw the ark insert and almost got one only because I've never used one. I don't think I would like the ark over the torch but then again not having to buy fuel would come in handy sometimes too.
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Hi Kory, I just bought the Zippo insert a few months ago when they first came out. I love it. I've been carrying the regular fuel Zippo's for about 40 yrs now. A few years back I bought a Thunderbird insert, the first one I had to send back, when I tried to fill it, nothing happened and it wouldn't work. I sent it back and they sent me one that did work. I've always had a problem for some reason trying to refill butane lighters. I would put the butane in and could never get the lighters to work again. With the Zippo insert I have had no problem! makes my life easier! just fill it for a couple of seconds than let the lighter sit for a few minutes before you light it Voila!
Awesome stuff, I want to get a few more.
Filling the Zippo insert is way easier than the Thunderbird. I feel like with the Thunderbird if you don't line everything up just right gas sprays out the side but with the Zippo, it just lines up on its own and stays that way until you're done. I really like the new Zippo insert I don't think I will ever go back to the Thunderbird again.
@@newageselfreliance The Thunderbird insert I have doesn't have electronic ignition and works with flint and spark wheel. I didn't like that once you open the lid on the lighter, the fuel automatically starts coming out, so you have to light it right away or you're just wasting fuel.
Just I'm agree whit you.. Thinking ambolutly in all of normal problem we will
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Hey Kory! I like that Zippo insert, very nice! I hope all is doing well!
Thank You so much for watching. I hope all is well with you as well.
I have one Zippo lighter with a Zippo butane insert. It works very well. Today my order from Amazon arrived with a Thunderbird butane insert. I inserted it into an empty Zippo lighter case and it was stuck fast. Took an hour using my Leatherman tool to finally get it out. Thankfully I managed to not damage it too bad. I like the Thunderbird insert because I can see through it and judge when it needs to be refilled. Will use my Dremel tool to try and get this Thunderbird insert to go into and out of a Zippo lighter case. Even if I ruin it I at least learned something. As is it's unusable
The Thunderbird comes with a life time Warranty. You should be able to send it back and get a new one.
@@newageselfreliance I used a small sharp knife and scraped down the vertical tabs that are on each side of the lighter insert body. These tabs are hardly noticeable as they are on the clear part of the insert body. After a bit of trial and error I got the insert to where it fits into the Zippo case. Thanks for the warranty tip.
Thanks Kory, Bic lighters are hopless in wind, I do like zippo lighters but over the years my allergies have become so Bad to lighter fluid I need Butane Lighters I don't smoke But do like a fire when outdoors, I have a vector, but will buy a Zippo insert for my new Zippo Armor "Necromonicon" I did have the Armor St, Benedict but sold it at Christmas when I ran short of cash ,Now to expensive to replace, Take care,
I still use the Zippo insert and every time I use it I just love the fit and finish. Everything is so smooth.
I was just thinking about you (a video) today! Creepy!
If you were a Vietnam Vet, the zippo is the only one, the smell of the fluid and fluid leaking sometimes, lights cigarettes well also, ya know the white cylinder shaped object with or without a filter. 😊
I don't smoke so I don't really need to carry a lighter I just feel better when I do.
@@newageselfreliance i was just kiddin, don't smoke anymore, I get you wanting to carry a lighter, always good to have alternative sources to start fires for cooking and warmth. Your videos are very informative, thanks!
I really Like that Rocket torch Insert. I wish it was Zippo quality.
I like the original Zippo and I would carry a small torch lighter as back up.
As well as good ol ferro rod ....
Good Vid. I am on RUclips off and on for awhile My Mom passed away a week ago.
I am kinda out of it right now.
I'm really sorry to hear about your mom. Take all the time you need. My videos aren't going anywhere.
Interesting thing to note. Vector offers a Zippo-style no questions asked warranty on the Thunderbird. Between the Thunderbird insert and the Zippo casing, you have a lighter that will be around longer than you lol.
I really enjoy the Thunderbird insert I just think the Zippo has a much better fit and finish.
@@newageselfreliance I agree. If they extended the no-questions-asked warranty to their new inserts I would be sooooo down. They look leagues better. I also like the action on the Zippo better. You can fidget the lid without wasting fuel. TBH I'll likely end up getting one after lockdown anyway lol.
@@OtakuUpNorth You will enjoy it. I like how much smoother the operation is. It feels like a real zippo. I guess because it is a real zippo but it works much better.
@@newageselfreliance So my Thunderbird came in and I was wildly impressed. They added a few upgrades from the one you reviewed. It now has a much clearer Thermoplastic, it looks much clearer than the old cloudy one that becomes opaque. They also changed the tooling of the clear part to put pressure on the wall of the zippo casing where the lid meets the bottom. The insert fits way tighter than the videos I have seen, and the hinge mechanism no longer operates the gas valve. It is an all-in-one design like the zippo one. In Canada these inserts are really similarly priced, but given the no questions asked warranty I am glad I got the Thunderbird. I am impressed.
I just picked up the zippo torch insert and even bought a brand new zippo to put it in...my only criticism is that the lid isn't as tight as with the original insert.
I don't even remember what the original insert feels like. It is a huge upgrade from the Thunderbird when it comes to opening and closing.
Well let's tell the truth it's not actually all metal construction. If you pull it out and remove the bottom metal plate it has a plastic tank. But I don't think the plastic tank is a bad thing. I've never had a thunderbird but I do have several zippo butane inserts and I love them. Out of 4 that I have bought I've only had one fail. And for the life of me I can't figure out how to fix. Hence why I found your video. The problem with it is it strikes fine but if you push the button all the way down the fuel cuts off. It worked fine for about 5 or 6 tanks worth of fuel. Which is about a month worth of use. I've opened it up but can not seem to get the guys out of the torch metal shell. But it vs the other zippo torches I own I've noticed that the button now goes down about an ⅛" further than the others. Hence cutting off the fuel flow. So something in it has shifted or bent or something under the button allowing it to depress to far. And it's hard as hell to only push the button passed the strike point slightly with out going to far and the the flame not staying lit. Some of the all the others work fine. Some of which are more than a year old. Would love to get this other one back up and running though.
The Zippo insert should have a two year warranty. You should be able to get ahold of them and they should fix it or replace it for you.
This might help answer some of your questions as well. www.zippo.com/pages/repairs-windproof-lighter
Im on my 3.rd zippo insert, and it still dosnt work propper, sometimes it wont light, other times the flame goes out after 1sec. Tried bleeding/refill. i use original zippo butane gas. It wont even light if the adjuster isnt near max. Very disapointed with zippo on this. Any suggestions ?
After you fill the zippo you need to let it rest. Fill it up, wait 15-20 minutes for the butane to settle and it should work just fine.
@@newageselfreliance instructions says wait 2mins, but ok. I think i figured out why it is behaving like this, i think its simply the temperatur, whenever its handwarm, it lights every time and stays on. guess i should have known temp was going to affect butane lighter, but it seems the zippo is more sensitive than regular bic's etc.
@@MissMan666 Yeah, the metal keeps it colder than the plastic Bic lighters. Glad you got it working. The cold fluid can make it act up too when you first fill it. That is why I always give it extra time to settle.
Try vector or xikar butane they're a better quality than zippo butane.
I prefer the zippo it looks and feels like a better quality
It does feel much more solid than the Vector.
I have the Thundebird insert I bought a couple of years back, and the plastic is completely transparent. Touche to Zippo for entering the pricing market agressively. Although I agree with you on full metal casing quality, I must say that seeing how much I've filled into the casing into the completely transparent version is a plus. From other things, I haven't checked, but what is the warranty for Zippo insert? I know Vector KGM gives a lifetime warranty (taken with a grain of salt of course)
The Zippo insert only has a two-year warranty. I think the clear plastic would be better than the white plastic I have in my Thunderbird insert. I like being able to see the fluid but I haven't been able to go back to my old Thunderbird after using the Zippo. The fit and finish of the Zippo insert are just so much better.
the vector has a lifetime no questions asked warranty. that's what you're paying for.
The issue with a Lifetime warranty is how long do you have to go without your lighter before getting it back. I would rather have something that last a lifetime than something with a warranty.
@@newageselfreliance I hear you. But I've got more than one lighter, so no skin off my back if one of gone for a few weeks
I just like zipo, it's old school cool factor. I don't like the smell of the fuel so I don't bother, ya I wish I could get over it, could I let it just sit in my pack for a week or two and trust its going to work?
The good thing about Butane lighters is that there is no smell or evaporation. It makes it the same as a Bic lighter only a torch instead of a flame.
@@newageselfreliance I didn't even know zipo made one until this video, so a big thank you there. I will be checking it out next time I see zipo lighters.
I need a solution for my slim Zippos, I am desperate, I would take any reliable and safe brand. Any ideas?
I don't think anyone makes inserts for the slim anymore. You might be able to find something used on ebay.
How long does the zippo single torch stay lit while using it?
For as long as you hold the button. It does not stay lit like the butane insert. As soon as you let go of the button the flame goes out.
@@newageselfreliance okay cool thank you!
Nope, Sorry Kory, Staying Traditional with This ! Hope You & Yours Are Well, Scratch For Mora. ATB T God Bless
Some things are just built right the first time and I think Zippo lighters are one of them. I myself just prefer the torch lighter over the standered flame.
These Thunderbirds are fragile as hell and doesn't fit well at all, I've had mine for a little over two weeks now and I dropped mine dick high now the soft and torch only work together still works ok but it probably won't last long, get the Zippo or look into the vector ones
This one that I'm showing is the Vector Thunderbird amzn.to/3h3atHA What Thunderbird do you have?
@@newageselfreliance wow sorry I meant to say z-plus completely off , I have the z-plus single flame for about a year now it still works good the flame is not so high but works just fine and fits better than the Thunderbirds I noticed the tap that hold the cap for the zipper is more floppy with the Thunderbirds
Yeah, the Thunderbird doesn't open or close nearly as smoothly as it should. I've never even heard of the Z-plus. I think the Zippo insert is gonna have the best fit and finish just because it is made to exact specs. The fact that the Zippo brand is about the same price as all the other inserts really make it a great deal.
@@newageselfreliance yeah your right but check out the z-plus there about 10 bucks on Amazon