Honestly all are great for me anyway, no issues. I would go with the Zippo Soft flame. Zippo needs a Soft Flame Pipe insert, THAT would be my best insert!
You actually use your stuff, so it is good to know some of the problems that arise from heavy use. I like all of the inserts honestly, I haven't had any issues with any of my inserts, Vector or Zippo, I gave my mom one of the vector pipe inserts and it has been going strong for a long time now, and she kind of uses and abuses her gear, so that is a bit of a testament. Anyway, great vid showing off those inserts, great for someone who only wants the best and don't want to fiddle with them.
Yeah buddy. That’s why I make em. Try to get some info out there. I do have to say the ones that leak still work though , so u can only tell they leak when u leave it to sit. If your using it everyday u will never know it’s leaking because how slow the leak is , u will think u just used it all.
Bought both the zippo yellow flame, and single torch, and you are absolutely right! Super fit, and it works great, not much more money than 3rd party inserts. Thanks for this excellent review.
I have a Zippo yellow flame and like it. I also have 4 Thunderbirds and have not experienced the problems you have. One went bad and was replaced for free. The others have gone 4 years without filling. I only light them occasionally to see if they need to be refilled I wish the Zippo had a flame adjust.
Really enjoyed nerding out to this. Hopefully Zippo will also consider making the single torch, double torch and yellow flame inserts in the same brass/gold flash color like they do for the liquid butane inserts.
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors Don't know why they don't already. Right now I'm all about Zippo Arabesque lighters from Japan, which is what brought me to your channel in full insert hunting mode, lol!
@@davidsapir3764 haha nice ! Those Japanese customs are pretty sweet. Well I’ll glad u found the channel I’m always down to answer questions or give opinions or just shoot the breeze !
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors Don't get me wrong, at the end of the day a Zippo's a Zippo, they're all built well and look great at every price point. But the Japanese custom Zippos are next level unbelievable. The Arabesque shell inlay Zippos brightly glisten even in low light as if they're self illuminating. The Arabesque engraved inlays are amazing too but also the Japanese exotic animal leather full wrap Zippos. Just scored two beauties, a brown crocodile leather and a python leather full wrap Zippo. Where to begin on how awesome they are. But chrome inserts don't look good in all of them, so when it has to be brass I go with a brass pipe insert and add a bottom sealing gasket. Those gaskets do a great job of extending fluid life.That's my overall favorite Zippo insert, followed by the double torch and standard insert in brass.
@@davidsapir3764 yeah they do crazy good work over there. That crocodile one sounds dope. I would love python. My edc insert is also a pipe insert but I use the gold flashed ones now. U can buy them separately and also the gold flashed last much longer than the old brass ones they did
I just wanted to add something real quick, the thunderbird insert leaks due to bad fitting at the metal thing that holds the lid close, not the spring, all you gota do is file it a bit and you shoukd be good to go, worked for me 👍🏿
Nice to see these in action, thank you. I got my dad a zippo case along with the double flame insert for Christmas, he is a cigar smoker and it seemed to be the best for his once or twice a week style use. I also got him the bit safe zippo insert because he will think it's hilarious and he loves gadgety things like that.
hey i recently found you while searching for zippo how-to videos as i just bought my first zippo, i really found your videos helpful and in-depth keep it up man :)
I just noticed something, for what it’s worth. I have a Zippo soft flame insert and a Thunderbird soft flame insert. While watching the video, I tried each of them in a classic case. A simple puff blew out the Zippo’s flame, but not that of the Thunderbird. It took a more robust puff to blow it out.
I am not promoting Thunderbird but rather sharing some info. I purchased a Thunderbird butane yellow flame insert back in 2012. It's truly a yellow flame which totally mimics classic Zippo lighter fluid models. After 12 years of use, it still works great, I love it! I had it packed away the last 2 years and after watching your video, I got it out and tried it. It worked first try and the butane level was still full! Thank you for the very nice review on the current butane inserts!
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors Sorry to hear they have bad customer service. Seems to replicate their current products. I do believe they did make quality products at one time as I also have torch inserts from the same era I use as well and with no leaks.
I have a Z-plus Extreme insert that I have used daily for over 3 years. It was very inexpensive, is a dual flame torch and lights ever time. Does not leak.
I'm a cigar smoker, i usually collect and use vintage Dupont lighters. but they are soft flame and in summer i love a smoke outside. i looked at the dupnt jet lighters but don't really like 'em... so what i did was buying a brass zippo online from the 1990's, and fitted it with a single blue flame insert... beautiful combo for lighting a cigar on a windy terras!
I've tried most of these, the Thunderbird and Yusud are the worst inserts, Thunderbird has the cam issue and Yusud has problems sparking after re-flinting it. The Zorro single torch with fill window is alright it won't light up every time though. The Zippo single torch lights up almost everytimes, and same for the Yellow Flame.
I had already found out that the yellow flame Zippo insert was the only one that fits in a 1935 replica case but I noticed yesterday that it is also the only butane insert that fits in a "table Zippo" (Regular Zippo on a foot) that's because of the room used by the nut at the bottom of the case. I hope this helps...
I've had over all good luck with the Ysud. They are a little finicky to get adjusted but the dual flame is well worth it. Soft flame for lighting smokes, jet flame for heat shrink tubing and burning off loose strings. I bought several spares and will stay with them, I have not experienced any leakage (easy to check with another lighter) Key to the Ysud seems to be discharging the fill entirely before re-filling and then not over filling (count of 3). The slick, sloped buttons on the Zippo inserts are unfriendly to use and require that you hold them down to keep a flame. I would buy Zippo if they made a dual flame with a striker wheel.
Loving my single (Zippo) butane insert still, think I grabbed it over a year ago. I've dropped it a couple of times, so the little "thingy" that makes the gas go poof was bent upwards. I gently bent it downwards again and now it fires up 9 out of 10 times :) Also even with premium butane, I'm saving a ton of money NOT using fuel. Yeah I smoke, so I use my lighter many times a day. Zippo inserts also have 2 year warranty, so that's fantastic. The only complaints that I have personally, is that every time I open the lighter, the insert shifts upwards somewhat. It also drags on the casing eventually, so you have to wipe it off to get a smooth opening with a proper Zippo 'ping'. The button also gets used up and feels like it's rusty. Not as smooth as it was as new.
Nice bro ! I’ve had my two single torches (zippo) for three years not one issue with both of them. My mom actually uses the other one now. Love these butane inserts.
zippo also has a great warranty. 12 year old lighter hinge snapped they fixed it and made it better than new. i just got my self 3 more zippos on order... @@Zippofanatic77outdoors
Really like my Yusud butane insert. It seems to be holding up just fine after a year of semi-regular use. I flip the lid maybe 20 times while wasting time at work fusing ropes twice a week. My biggest issue is the flint it comes with. Its actual garbage and i had to swap it out with a Zippo brand one. Other than that i havent had any other issues.
I really like my zplus extreme 2.0. Its a double torch piezo ignition insert. I dont smoke, but as a maker, engineering student, and casual prepper, i always carry a lighter. I use it daily for cleaning up 3d prints, heatshrink tubing, repairing frayed nylon, even as a handwarmer. It has a transparent fuel tank, and an adjustable flame
And yes I have a yellow they have a classic.Bring On the slim yellow and it's a game changer for the user and New clientele . and I love the weight additional class and construction.
I just found out about the inserts for my old zippo for my cigar smoking time. Thank you so much for breaking them down. Now I just have to find them. The zippo site it out.
Not sure if you smoke that sticky icky but if you take a raw tip and fold it horizontally first then vertically second it makes the perfect shim you can jam between the torch insert and the armor case. Just put the paper on the side of the zippo and insert your insert at an angle to keep the paper upright. I use a dynavap for the most part with my butane insert but love the durability and weight of an armor case.
I just a piece of painters tape to shim it. Doesnt leave gunk on the insert and doesnt fall out when I refill. Yeah I’m deep into the sticky icky lol just finished one sat down and read this lol
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors I'm with ya bud when I got out of the military I was hurting real bad, US va wanted to give me narcotics and surgery on my feet, said fuck no started smoking green never went back to brown lol
I need to get a 32. The sharp edges on that look amazing to me. My slim of 2 years just died. Went back to my standard I've had since 2011. Switched away from it because my dad sent it to me while in Afghanistan. Don't wanna chance losing it. Was looking into the torch inserts. I'll just stick with regular inserts. I don't mind having a can of fluid at home and a can in my work bag.
for the Zorro double torch I only got both colors to fit inside deep carved armors (not regular) or 1941s. The gold version fits good inside brushed brass regular zippo cases (with emblem and vintage edition too) but the silver wouldn't fit inside any regular. plus in one every ten or so the torches won't work and catch the whole lighter on fire. (they are cheap though: $4-5 compared to $16-24 for the zippo one.)
Yall got me converted to a butane lover. Got the zippo softflame in my 360 deep cave necronomicon. I've learned that MOST just need proper care, however, there are some big design flaws with SOME. Seems like the cam is the main issue for them sometimes too. No bad luck with thunderbird for me... YET lol. It's still hard to beat the classic fluid insert tho.
Haha glad your enjoying it. Herd about the trade with old Jamestown. It is nice just to keep in table lighters and leave the house with real zippo fluid though , that’s what I do.
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors took some doing, it's a slider lol, had to wrap it in some tape. Works well tho, and I carry it. Not at all windproof but nothing beats the classic there. 🔥💨✌
You pointed out that, with a Zippo insert, the lid rattles around, which was my experience, as well. It’s amazing to me that they can’t get the size of the chimney area to match the size of the chimney of a liquid-fueled model. When I got my first one and pointed this out to them, their solution was to send the case back so they could squeeze it to fit the insert. That’s just lame; they should make the insert fit the case, not deform the case to fit the insert. It seems so simple, but they just don’t get it.
Super you're sharing your experience with these. Have to agree, single torch Zippo insert as far as butane inserts go, yellow flame one cool too. I'm just not not a butane lover.
Yeah anything to help. I agree single torch up there in my books. I don’t leave the house with butane inserts but I like having them in my nice expensive table lighters. I don’t have to manage them can leave them for months or weeks and they work when I need them.
Yeah Steve single torch is top shelf. Your gonna like the yellow flame when it gets there. But single torch kinda better. Has height adjustment and more wind proof
I don't smoke regularly but I do every 2 days and boy it has lasted a month on a single refill 😂😂😂. The most satisfying part is a Zippo lasting for a month if you know what I mean.
Got myself a new Zippo (regular Black Crackle) with an original zippo jet flame insert a couple days ago, to light my fireworks more reliably on New Year's Eve. I like it so far and it works great for me. But what is kinda annoying is how loose the lid closes on those. I already thought it was my Zippo case until I tried it with a normal insert.
I stoped posting my. content would be easy to amerture and far apart to ever grow I can only afford one or two a month but I still love your bids. Go Fanatic your smashing it lad.
To fix the lid wiggle you have to shim the zippo insert up with a piece of plastic cut from a coke bottle. That shim will rise up the insert just enough that the lid will support itself on the square edge of the insert and not on the beveled edge.
I agree that the Zippo insert is of a better quality, but it still has one drawback. Although the smell of gasoline is no longer there, it is butane, you still get that sensation of a pinch in your throat. However, the other inserts do not leave you with that sensation
Thank you, you saved me time and money not buying a shitty insert and/or one that won't fit properly. Definitely will be picking up a single torch Zippo insert for my cigars.
I'll be the black sheep. Yes, I admit, many thunderbird inserts leak right out of the box. Having said that, my favorite is the vector dual torch/software flame. Been my EDC for a few years and it works great.
Before Zippo made them I bought a Z+on Ebay for about 12 bucks. It lasted about 5 years. I bought a Zippo when they came out. It lasted about a year. I am on my second one now that seems to work better. I have a dozen or more Zippos. I love them. What I would like is a gas insert for the slim Zippos.
I actually bought a Zorro insert after trying to make my Zippo single torch work and failing for over a year. I tried everything, bleeding the tank, adjusting the regulator, and what felt like 100 other "tips" to make that Zippo insert work and it never did. Also that was my second Zippo insert, the first I bought was a double torch, it also never worked and I thought maybe I just got a lemon. I am now convinced that the Zippo butane inserts are absolute trash. The Zorro (ironically the one I got was the one with the fuel window lol) insert have been working consistently for the past 8 months since I got it and I've had zero issues with it. I really wish my Zippo inserts worked, maybe I just got two lemons since it seems like yours have been working great, but I'm not willing to spend another $30 bucks to buy a third one to test that theory.
Thanks for the video. I can confirm that the Thunderbird dual flame lighters leak for me too and are hard to light in any wind. Also, the cam spring doesn't make the satisfying click/snap when you close the lid. It feels mushy. I also have the Zorro single flame with the window. Mine are working great except for the cam spring has binded up in one, and dislodged in the other. When I first got them, they were really tight and would hold closed nicely. On the one that is binded, it now doesn't hold closed quite as well (but it's tolerable). The one with the dislodged spring doesn't work right and the spring has partially come out under the cam. Can you do a video on a cam spring job for these Zorro butane lighters?
Haha yeah bro. Everything that happened to mine happened to yours. That single torch was the last one I had. I gave it away since I posted this video. You would have to drill out the pin in the cam. Replace spring and plastic piece. Don’t know what u would to replace it. I just use zippo ones now.
If you are looking for a soft flame insert that works like OG zippo. The z-plus insert has been working alright for me, it looks like a cheaper copy of the thunderbird but it hasnt started leaking after a year of use. A side not, ive had huge problems with the double flame zippo. i guess its all a coin toss when it comes to lighters
@@Oddy25 Been using it for like 2 years now and its still working great. Be prepared though for QA issues. A friend got one from the same place and it wasnt great, he returned it and got another one that works.
@@Oddy25 been over a year now and its works as it should, no leaking gas or anything. Even got my friend one and its also holding up. They are a bit wild if you overfill em but once you let the fire burn for a few seconds they go back to a normal sized flame.
Good review - Had issues with a Zippo torch insert not filling (after attempts to properly bleed it) - Called Zippo customer service and they replaced it within a week at no charge! 💪
Currently supper annoyed that the spring loading mechanism for the lid on my Colibri broke and it well.. uhm... flops. So I've been thinking a lot about Zippos (they do have that coolness factor, I have to admit), but as I'm a cigar smoker, I need butane, so it doesnt stink up my cigars. Your video was EXACTLY what I needed to convince me to jump on a Zippo. Thinking about the soft flame one. Either way, these inserts are fairly cheap where I live, so just might try the jet flame too. Thank you so much for taking your time to make this video! Great content, sir!
Thanks ! Yeah I personally prefer the double torch for cigars. The yellow flame is a must have too. But !! Make sure u only run high quality butane in them. Zippo or ronson butane is no good. Hopefully u have some colibri butane left over.
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors That is the model I was actually pondering. Was looking at both the brushed brass as well as the polished one, it's like you're a mind reader, haha!
@@obscenesamurai2488 I seen your comment and reply but I misread the reply I thought u were demanding I answer u or u won’t buy from me. Which I thought was weird because I don’t sell zippos lol. I don’t read to good. I went back and seen what were u actually trying to say. My bad
los my zippo dual torch at a lake years back, liked it. Been rcoking the butane soft flame insert a good while in a beater zippo for work. Only downside is lack of flame height adjust. But i got used to it, its not shooting as large a flame as when i first got it. The zorrors are alright, had one, but button broke after about a year , dont recommend. The zippo soft flame fits like a glove in my standard zippos, but not so well in the only armor zippo i have. The other armor i have is a slim high polish. (from what i can tell, slims dont have any butane inserts on market)
Yeah put a piece of tape on the insert to fit in the armor. Some company did make a butane insert for slim years and years ago. But they are hard to come by. I think zippo will eventually release one
I've got the Yusud and I like the nostalgia of using the flint wheel, plus having the option of a soft flame and blue torch in one. Unfortunately, the thing barely fits in my old zippo case. I had to polish the hell out of the insert to get it into the case, then pull it out of there with a pliers when it's time to refill. I had no idea that zippo made different size cases. Thanks for the informative video!
Gosh you are priceless a wealth of information and enthusiasm and passion that really is a genuine honest opinions . be your own gide a fly on wards and upwards JR OZ
Been watching your channel for a little while. I thought I was subscribed but I just fixed that. Anyway, believe it or not, I just happened apon a brand new, unfilled, Zippo double torch lighter on the sidewalk like someone placed it there, just today. The only aerosol butane fluid I have is Neon in the yellow can. Would you trust it to function properly in this insert or not?
the zippo brand butane torch inserts have a taller chimney that makes them too big for some alternative cases. it wont fit in my 912 and my 3d printed backup case needed to be heated and deformed a little to fit it. also, the normal liquid zorro inserts also make zippo lids not wobble
I'm also only using all the Zippo inserts now, sometimes I'll use the Zorro fluid insert with the lid. I'm still looking forward to a video with the 1932 and 1933 Replicas!
I like my Jet Line inserts, not sure if I've used the official Zippo one because I've been using the Jet Lines for years, before Zippo even released one.
The first thunderbird looks the best. Shame that it sucks. The zippo ones just looks super cheezy. Wish they looked more like an original zippo insert, with the holes.
Lol I know I complain about it in the video too. Very easy to put out. But ! Someone who works at zippo very reliable source. told me they are working on a wind proof soft flame for next year or the year after. So I’m pretty excited for that.
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors soft flame thunderbird style “hands free” with zippo quality and some wind proofing would be a dream come true if they could fix the cam issues
@@Jack958This sounds like something I'd buy, and I'm a fluid user. My guess is that if Zippo is really going to release a windproof soft flame insert, it won't have the chimney design Vector uses for the Thunderbird inserts because it doesn't work well for butane. The chimney with the holes inside was designed for a wick. The holes in the chimney diffuse the wind so it cannot blow out the flame easily, but they also let in some air, which increases the evaporation and provides for a strong flame. Air does not increase the flow of butane from a butane lighter's valve, so the holes in the chimney of the Thunderbird are useless for wind proofing and merely a cosmetic issue. The purpose of the Thunderbird insert is to recreate the Zippo experience. You open it (click), you strike without having to press a button, you can hold the lighter in many ways, while a butane release button confines you to a certain way of holding it, just like a Bic, and the flame goes out with a second click. So far, so good. But there isn't much left of the Zippo experience if you have to cup your hands around it the way you would with a Bic.
Yeah. I like the sight glass ones better anyways. They do perform better. I hate the all steel zorro double torch. Only fits in armors and 41’s. And is janky as crap.
I think the Zippo’s are more consistent in quality. The Zorro’s are ok but you could drop on a good one or a bad one. I have a single jet Zorro in a standard Zippo case, and I can leave it a month between lights and virtually all the butane remains. However, the one I swapped it for ( the dealer sent me a new replacement ) could run out overnight. So I think its more of a gamble, but you can get a good Zorro if you’re lucky. The quality just isn’t consistent.
I just bought my first Zippo armour for cigars only. I bought the Yusud 2 in 1 Combo based off of positive review on amazon. Glad i didn't get a thunderbird since it looks like junk in the reviews. I liked the idea of using butan yellow flame and the option of a torch in one for cigars. Worst case i'll just get a Zippo official yellow flame butane if I don't ever use a torch for cigars. Based on my research the torch kinda scared me for burning Tabacco. SO my thinking was use a yellow flame and torch for touch up if needed.
Thanks been waiting for this question I had in mind. By the way head to head which butane last longer bic or zippo yellow flame. Anyways good stuff S7VN 7 🔥
No probs albatroz. Well a bic is clearly gonna last longer it holds 4x the butane these small inserts hold. Bic is much fatter and taller. But! Using a zippo is much more classy than using a bic lighter. If your gonna carry a lighter might as well be the nicest one u can get. Bic doesnt offer these options lol.
Yeah I really only use the zippo inserts that’s why they high on the list. Zorro double does fit a 41 replica with no issues. Because the square sides on a 41. Armor gets tight. I can’t fit one into any of my regular zippos
@@carscigarsscotchnwatches5158 lol I know right. Yeah only the 41 though. I also don’t like how small the flame adjuster is on the zorro. The zippo ones at least I can use my fingernail
hmmmm, I'm still trying to find that all metal zorro insert for single, especially since i have done Walmart black Zippo into brass. I'm planning to use it as my EDC Zippo (non smoker but i deal with Paracord and repairs on the go that need hot glue) that's getting a mix of decal(Eddie the Head), polished and shipwreck patina. however I'm still using my single torch Zippo insert, especially since I'm used to it since 2019. BTW that tape hack, thank you, needed it for my candy apple red Zippo
@@ArthronOfFir3 honestly I ordered all these 2 years or longer ago I havent looked since. I just remember seeing it but getting the double because I thought it was cooler. U might have to check a few more AliExpress’s stores or they just don’t make it anymore
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors welp, looks like I'll probably use the double for a pirate themed Zippo lighter, especially since I'm forming a pirate metal band in Florida. let's just say shipwrecked patina and some engraving and decals.
Drove through Bradford, PA not too long ago and I wish I had stopped in to the Case/Zippo museum. Anyway ... Why does Zippo say that the torch inserts aren't compatible with their Armor cases? Also, thanks very much for the video, it is super helpful.
No problem buds. Because the lid doesnt close all the way with them. There’s is a tiny little hair line u can see it it doesnt close. I don’t even notice it still use them in armors anyways lol.
a fuel button on a Zippo is counterintuitive to your brain that grew up with only lighter fluid inserts - but you get used to it quickly. I'm not a torch guy either. My yellow flame is not adjustable and has a 2"-2.5" flame when full - and only reduces to a more reasonable 1" right before it runs out of butane. If it wasn't for that I'd give it 5 stars -- as is with the wasteful flame - 3 stars (2 stars if it didn't have a replaceable flint). I thought I might have got a faulty one .. but I've seen reviews on the same problem. - guess I'll try a single torch, since I'm not saving much butane with the high yellow flame
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors - even with a 3" flame? I emailed Zippo after I left my comment -- I may have a faulty one -- waiting for reply ... And I'll be passing on the torch -- one of the main features I want is a replaceable flint.
I really like the idea behind the thunderbird inserts and imagine it lights 1st strike every time. The one thing I typically dislike about butanes is the unreliable piezoelectric arc and hard button presses. Have you found anything else like it that starts the gas release when the lid opens?
I'd like to know as well, I bought a zippo butane pipe insert and am disappointed by the tiny weak flame, and the button hold makes it feel like its not a zippo, I'm going to order a thunderbird this week, it will get minimal use so hopefully it lasts.
its not about the cost, i just simply like a butane insert that stays lit while open. But i dont smoke anymore, so a standard zippo insert sucks because of evaporation and no jet flame. I only now like jet flame because i use it for things like burning paracord or starting a fire
Had problems with my single torch from zippo it just won't light and the flame adjustment is horrible. I've bled it completely and filled it multiple times with zippo butane still nothing consistentin going to try the yellow hopefully it's better
From what I can tell, you can’t get the zorro single jet in the all metal casing without the glass window. Only double jet. Maybe they don’t do them anymore?
I bought the Thunderbirds and really love them until they start leaking. Big bummer! I'm gonna try the Zippo soft flame because you seem to have more experience than me with the various types of inserts. Question: When you go for a fuel refill, do you adjust the flame all the way to -, then purge all out first? Whats your procedure for refueling? Thanks! Great video btw.
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors The newer ones leak I have one of the older style ones with black plastic when they switched to white plastic they started leaking as quality went down
Great review! Have you tried the new Thunderbird piezo electric soft flame insert? It apparently has no leaking issues and has an adjustable flame which the Zippo does not. My only concern about buying one is the Thunderbird inserts have a way worse build quality than the Zippo brand. The Zippo is great but the lack of adjustable flame and fuel window is annoying
Hey Brendan. Thanks I appreciate the compliment. Umm this is the first I’m hearing of it but I will never own another Thunderbird product for as long as I live lol. I’ve had such a bad experience with the brand they have left a permanent bad taste in my mouth. Cheap materials to bad customer service they have done it all. I have the yellow flame as an edc and the flame adjustment has never bothered me once. One less thing that can go wrong with it in my opinion. U are right zippo does have that higher quality standards
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors Yeah I was really bummed out bc I loved the look of the Armor I got. It's the Zippo 62TIBK-RIP with a titanium coating. Some say to file down the bottom of the insert but I don't wanna do all that.
I've used the Vertigo Z-plus! extreme double torch for a year with no issues. Tried to replace it with Zippo's single torch insert to save butane, but the Zippo torch won't stay lit while inverted like vertigo's torch does, so I can't make use of it. I only wish I could get the z-plus insert to fit in a Zippo case instead of a Vertigo one!
I have a Zorro one, that has a window to see the gas level, but rarely use it. But sadly the cam is really weak... It already broken and also sometime it miss the spark / hard to ignite :(
I find the whole spring thing of of the yusud 2in1s ones incredibly annoying. Its super easy to lose the the little spacer on the end. And if you try to use an extra flint as a spacer it just ruins the spring.
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors Thank you! I am new to Zippos and already want to find a black butane insert and a gold/brass butane insert! Hope they make them again.
Sorry to keep adding on, but my vision is not the best, and it took a moment to notice that the Thunderbird has an actual chimney with air holes, just like the original Zippo liquid fuel design, while the Zippo’s flame comes right out of the upper surface of the chimney-like section. It no wonder the Zippo goes out with the slightest puff, while the Thunderbird is somewhat wind-resistant, like the original Zippo design. Once again, Zippo misses that boat, by not better emulating their own successful design.
I’d get the soft flame if I didn’t drive an open jeep on the highway 😂 evap isn’t bad with a regular zippo especially with the freezer bag trick and zippo flints.. flint from dead bics doesn’t help on the highway. Double torch would burnnnn butane$ single may not light at 80
The only Zippo butane insert I own is a Zippo double torch insert n Thyrm PyroVault 2.0 Lighter Armor. I had a lot of trouble adjusting the flame to keep it lit. Either it was too little gas and wouldn't stay lit, or it was too much and flared up, then burned up in no time. Now it won't even light at all. I took it with me camping this year and it didn't make it through the summer, but the Bic disposable lighter I had before that lasted a few years. If it was refillable, I'd still be using it, because it never broke, it just ran out of gas. My Zippo is Chinese junk.
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors To me, a yellow flame has always been a sign of incomplete combustion. I'm thinking about switching to a Zippo insert that uses lighter fluid like back in old times.
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors yea man i watched the whole thing but those are zippo cases, it only fits the 41 ad armor. i guess my question is will it fit the zorro 902 or 902s or i need to go up to 912
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors ah ok , final question for you my man, are the double torch window ones junk too like the singles? i can find the double torch window ones with a 902 case for cheap but i cant get any of the seller to tell me if the double torch without window will fit into the 902 case
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What’s your best butane insert ?
I dont have one
@@mysteriousbeard7183 nice for table zippos that what’s I use. I carry fluid insert outside the house.
Yellow flame
@@lippeguitar1 lippe lving the yellow also
Honestly all are great for me anyway, no issues. I would go with the Zippo Soft flame. Zippo needs a Soft Flame Pipe insert, THAT would be my best insert!
You actually use your stuff, so it is good to know some of the problems that arise from heavy use. I like all of the inserts honestly, I haven't had any issues with any of my inserts, Vector or Zippo, I gave my mom one of the vector pipe inserts and it has been going strong for a long time now, and she kind of uses and abuses her gear, so that is a bit of a testament. Anyway, great vid showing off those inserts, great for someone who only wants the best and don't want to fiddle with them.
Yeah buddy. That’s why I make em. Try to get some info out there. I do have to say the ones that leak still work though , so u can only tell they leak when u leave it to sit. If your using it everyday u will never know it’s leaking because how slow the leak is , u will think u just used it all.
Bought both the zippo yellow flame, and single torch, and you are absolutely right! Super fit, and it works great, not much more money than 3rd party inserts. Thanks for this excellent review.
Great to hear! Glad your enjoying them !
This is the perfect video for anyone wondering about all of the inserts. Thanks man!
No problem bro ! Glad to help
I got first zippo 4 years ago (H 18), but stumbling across your channel a month or two ago, I've learned so much I didn't know before. Thank you.
Any time buds. Thanks for dropping a comment.
I have a Zippo yellow flame and like it. I also have 4 Thunderbirds and have not experienced the problems you have. One went bad and was replaced for free. The others have gone 4 years without filling. I only light them occasionally to see if they need to be refilled I wish the Zippo had a flame adjust.
Love your reviews on everything Zippo. Very informative and super helpful!
Glad you like them!
Really enjoyed nerding out to this. Hopefully Zippo will also consider making the single torch, double torch and yellow flame inserts in the same brass/gold flash color like they do for the liquid butane inserts.
Thanks David ! Lol yeah nerds for sure. I would love for them to do gold plated and rose gold inserts also
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors Don't know why they don't already. Right now I'm all about Zippo Arabesque lighters from Japan, which is what brought me to your channel in full insert hunting mode, lol!
@@davidsapir3764 haha nice ! Those Japanese customs are pretty sweet. Well I’ll glad u found the channel I’m always down to answer questions or give opinions or just shoot the breeze !
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors Don't get me wrong, at the end of the day a Zippo's a Zippo, they're all built well and look great at every price point. But the Japanese custom Zippos are next level unbelievable. The Arabesque shell inlay Zippos brightly glisten even in low light as if they're self illuminating. The Arabesque engraved inlays are amazing too but also the Japanese exotic animal leather full wrap Zippos. Just scored two beauties, a brown crocodile leather and a python leather full wrap Zippo. Where to begin on how awesome they are. But chrome inserts don't look good in all of them, so when it has to be brass I go with a brass pipe insert and add a bottom sealing gasket. Those gaskets do a great job of extending fluid life.That's my overall favorite Zippo insert, followed by the double torch and standard insert in brass.
@@davidsapir3764 yeah they do crazy good work over there. That crocodile one sounds dope. I would love python. My edc insert is also a pipe insert but I use the gold flashed ones now. U can buy them separately and also the gold flashed last much longer than the old brass ones they did
I just wanted to add something real quick, the thunderbird insert leaks due to bad fitting at the metal thing that holds the lid close, not the spring, all you gota do is file it a bit and you shoukd be good to go, worked for me 👍🏿
Nice to see these in action, thank you. I got my dad a zippo case along with the double flame insert for Christmas, he is a cigar smoker and it seemed to be the best for his once or twice a week style use. I also got him the bit safe zippo insert because he will think it's hilarious and he loves gadgety things like that.
Very nice of u.
Thunderbird doesn't require you to hold the button to maintain a flame. The button gets hot after a while if you need a constant flame for something.
Could not have asked for a better review. Thank you very much.
Thanks appreciate it ! I tried to give as much info as I could
hey i recently found you while searching for zippo how-to videos as i just bought my first zippo, i really found your videos helpful and in-depth keep it up man :)
Thanks neko !
I just noticed something, for what it’s worth. I have a Zippo soft flame insert and a Thunderbird soft flame insert. While watching the video, I tried each of them in a classic case. A simple puff blew out the Zippo’s flame, but not that of the Thunderbird. It took a more robust puff to blow it out.
Glad to see a new vid 🙌 I’m probably gunna be picking up a yellow flame insert around the holidays
Thanks Eric ! Yeah your gonna enjoy it. Very functional
I am not promoting Thunderbird but rather sharing some info. I purchased a Thunderbird butane yellow flame insert back in 2012. It's truly a yellow flame which totally mimics classic Zippo lighter fluid models. After 12 years of use, it still works great, I love it! I had it packed away the last 2 years and after watching your video, I got it out and tried it. It worked first try and the butane level was still full! Thank you for the very nice review on the current butane inserts!
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Good to know 12 years ago thunderbird used to make a quality product. Now it’s complete shit and all 4 I’ve had breaks and leaks.
Plus they have garbage customer service that I’ve also dealt with.
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors Sorry to hear they have bad customer service. Seems to replicate their current products. I do believe they did make quality products at one time as I also have torch inserts from the same era I use as well and with no leaks.
@@bradysassone5840 yeah i got the vector torch too. Had to stop using it when it shot a flame ball out the side of it.
thanks for the review my single torch zippo has been holding up well, no issues as long as it is warm
Thanks for sharing
I have a Z-plus Extreme insert that I have used daily for over 3 years. It was very inexpensive, is a dual flame torch and lights ever time. Does not leak.
Thanks for the great work man, you really saved me from the thunderbird ones :)
Haha no problem Franco glad to save u some cash 💵
I'm a cigar smoker, i usually collect and use vintage Dupont lighters. but they are soft flame and in summer i love a smoke outside. i looked at the dupnt jet lighters but don't really like 'em... so what i did was buying a brass zippo online from the 1990's, and fitted it with a single blue flame insert... beautiful combo for lighting a cigar on a windy terras!
Yeah I love the torches for outside. Very wind resistant
I've tried most of these, the Thunderbird and Yusud are the worst inserts, Thunderbird has the cam issue and Yusud has problems sparking after re-flinting it. The Zorro single torch with fill window is alright it won't light up every time though. The Zippo single torch lights up almost everytimes, and same for the Yellow Flame.
Yeah I agree. Thanks for the feed back !
I've got that same Invicta Pro Diver. 15 years old and still runs great.
Lol nice man ! Yeah I love that watch. Wore it for 3 years straight held up great and works like a charm
I had already found out that the yellow flame Zippo insert was the only one that fits in a 1935 replica case but I noticed yesterday that it is also the only butane insert that fits in a "table Zippo" (Regular Zippo on a foot) that's because of the room used by the nut at the bottom of the case. I hope this helps...
Yeah yellow flame rocks
I've had over all good luck with the Ysud. They are a little finicky to get adjusted but the dual flame is well worth it. Soft flame for lighting smokes, jet flame for heat shrink tubing and burning off loose strings. I bought several spares and will stay with them, I have not experienced any leakage (easy to check with another lighter) Key to the Ysud seems to be discharging the fill entirely before re-filling and then not over filling (count of 3). The slick, sloped buttons on the Zippo inserts are unfriendly to use and require that you hold them down to keep a flame. I would buy Zippo if they made a dual flame with a striker wheel.
Loving my single (Zippo) butane insert still, think I grabbed it over a year ago. I've dropped it a couple of times, so the little "thingy" that makes the gas go poof was bent upwards. I gently bent it downwards again and now it fires up 9 out of 10 times :) Also even with premium butane, I'm saving a ton of money NOT using fuel. Yeah I smoke, so I use my lighter many times a day. Zippo inserts also have 2 year warranty, so that's fantastic. The only complaints that I have personally, is that every time I open the lighter, the insert shifts upwards somewhat. It also drags on the casing eventually, so you have to wipe it off to get a smooth opening with a proper Zippo 'ping'. The button also gets used up and feels like it's rusty. Not as smooth as it was as new.
Nice bro ! I’ve had my two single torches (zippo) for three years not one issue with both of them. My mom actually uses the other one now. Love these butane inserts.
zippo also has a great warranty. 12 year old lighter hinge snapped they fixed it and made it better than new. i just got my self 3 more zippos on order... @@Zippofanatic77outdoors
Really like my Yusud butane insert. It seems to be holding up just fine after a year of semi-regular use. I flip the lid maybe 20 times while wasting time at work fusing ropes twice a week.
My biggest issue is the flint it comes with. Its actual garbage and i had to swap it out with a Zippo brand one. Other than that i havent had any other issues.
I really like my zplus extreme 2.0. Its a double torch piezo ignition insert. I dont smoke, but as a maker, engineering student, and casual prepper, i always carry a lighter. I use it daily for cleaning up 3d prints, heatshrink tubing, repairing frayed nylon, even as a handwarmer. It has a transparent fuel tank, and an adjustable flame
At least your using a zippo lol
And yes I have a yellow they have a classic.Bring On the slim yellow and it's a game changer for the user and New clientele . and I love the weight additional class and construction.
Yeah I absolutely love them. Use ore than one actually lol
I just found out about the inserts for my old zippo for my cigar smoking time. Thank you so much for breaking them down. Now I just have to find them. The zippo site it out.
EBay
Got mine on Amazon. The single torch is great for cigars. Looking to try out the yellow flame next.
Not sure if you smoke that sticky icky but if you take a raw tip and fold it horizontally first then vertically second it makes the perfect shim you can jam between the torch insert and the armor case. Just put the paper on the side of the zippo and insert your insert at an angle to keep the paper upright. I use a dynavap for the most part with my butane insert but love the durability and weight of an armor case.
I just a piece of painters tape to shim it. Doesnt leave gunk on the insert and doesnt fall out when I refill. Yeah I’m deep into the sticky icky lol just finished one sat down and read this lol
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors I'm with ya bud when I got out of the military I was hurting real bad, US va wanted to give me narcotics and surgery on my feet, said fuck no started smoking green never went back to brown lol
@@xXRustyShacklefordXx oh cool I’m making a military rose gold custom for some one right now.
I need to get a 32. The sharp edges on that look amazing to me. My slim of 2 years just died. Went back to my standard I've had since 2011. Switched away from it because my dad sent it to me while in Afghanistan. Don't wanna chance losing it. Was looking into the torch inserts. I'll just stick with regular inserts. I don't mind having a can of fluid at home and a can in my work bag.
for the Zorro double torch I only got both colors to fit inside deep carved armors (not regular) or 1941s. The gold version fits good inside brushed brass regular zippo cases (with emblem and vintage edition too) but the silver wouldn't fit inside any regular. plus in one every ten or so the torches won't work and catch the whole lighter on fire. (they are cheap though: $4-5 compared to $16-24 for the zippo one.)
Yall got me converted to a butane lover. Got the zippo softflame in my 360 deep cave necronomicon. I've learned that MOST just need proper care, however, there are some big design flaws with SOME. Seems like the cam is the main issue for them sometimes too. No bad luck with thunderbird for me... YET lol. It's still hard to beat the classic fluid insert tho.
Haha glad your enjoying it. Herd about the trade with old Jamestown. It is nice just to keep in table lighters and leave the house with real zippo fluid though , that’s what I do.
Also that sounds like a sick and slick combo for that armor
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors took some doing, it's a slider lol, had to wrap it in some tape. Works well tho, and I carry it. Not at all windproof but nothing beats the classic there. 🔥💨✌
You pointed out that, with a Zippo insert, the lid rattles around, which was my experience, as well. It’s amazing to me that they can’t get the size of the chimney area to match the size of the chimney of a liquid-fueled model. When I got my first one and pointed this out to them, their solution was to send the case back so they could squeeze it to fit the insert. That’s just lame; they should make the insert fit the case, not deform the case to fit the insert. It seems so simple, but they just don’t get it.
I know right, you would think the official Zippo brand inserts would fit properly since Zippo designed both the insert and the lighter, weird.
Super you're sharing your experience with these. Have to agree, single torch Zippo insert as far as butane inserts go, yellow flame one cool too.
I'm just not not a butane lover.
Yeah anything to help. I agree single torch up there in my books. I don’t leave the house with butane inserts but I like having them in my nice expensive table lighters. I don’t have to manage them can leave them for months or weeks and they work when I need them.
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors my thoughts exactly
Love dual flame. Yellow for smokes and torch for spliffs ☺️
Same here!
Single torch hands down for me 🍺
Works like a charm and it fkn lastssssss!Gonna get the soft flame when it's available here ❤️
Yeah Steve single torch is top shelf. Your gonna like the yellow flame when it gets there. But single torch kinda better. Has height adjustment and more wind proof
I don't smoke regularly but I do every 2 days and boy it has lasted a month on a single refill 😂😂😂. The most satisfying part is a Zippo lasting for a month if you know what I mean.
@@stevewonder8766 oh I know what u mean brother
Got myself a new Zippo (regular Black Crackle) with an original zippo jet flame insert a couple days ago, to light my fireworks more reliably on New Year's Eve.
I like it so far and it works great for me. But what is kinda annoying is how loose the lid closes on those. I already thought it was my Zippo case until I tried it with a normal insert.
Yes I know very annoying. U should get a zorro insert then. They have a rounded edge. The lid is so tight and has no wiggle room.
I stoped posting my. content would be easy to amerture and far apart to ever grow I can only afford one or two a month but I still love your bids. Go Fanatic your smashing it lad.
Thanks buds ! Appreciate the kind words. Yes it ain’t easy to do.
To fix the lid wiggle you have to shim the zippo insert up with a piece of plastic cut from a coke bottle. That shim will rise up the insert just enough that the lid will support itself on the square edge of the insert and not on the beveled edge.
I agree that the Zippo insert is of a better quality, but it still has one drawback. Although the smell of gasoline is no longer there, it is butane, you still get that sensation of a pinch in your throat. However, the other inserts do not leave you with that sensation
Thank you, you saved me time and money not buying a shitty insert and/or one that won't fit properly. Definitely will be picking up a single torch Zippo insert for my cigars.
I like the double torch for cigars.
I found your channel last night. Cant stop watching lol
Lmao thanks man glad your enjoying it.
I'll be the black sheep. Yes, I admit, many thunderbird inserts leak right out of the box. Having said that, my favorite is the vector dual torch/software flame. Been my EDC for a few years and it works great.
Havent actually had that one. But one day I may
Before Zippo made them I bought a Z+on Ebay for about 12 bucks. It lasted about 5 years. I bought a Zippo when they came out. It lasted about a year. I am on my second one now that seems to work better. I have a dozen or more Zippos. I love them. What I would like is a gas insert for the slim Zippos.
I actually bought a Zorro insert after trying to make my Zippo single torch work and failing for over a year. I tried everything, bleeding the tank, adjusting the regulator, and what felt like 100 other "tips" to make that Zippo insert work and it never did. Also that was my second Zippo insert, the first I bought was a double torch, it also never worked and I thought maybe I just got a lemon. I am now convinced that the Zippo butane inserts are absolute trash.
The Zorro (ironically the one I got was the one with the fuel window lol) insert have been working consistently for the past 8 months since I got it and I've had zero issues with it.
I really wish my Zippo inserts worked, maybe I just got two lemons since it seems like yours have been working great, but I'm not willing to spend another $30 bucks to buy a third one to test that theory.
Glad the zorro works for u
i was trying to find this comment, zippo single and double have been nothing but a torture for me
Thanks for the video. I can confirm that the Thunderbird dual flame lighters leak for me too and are hard to light in any wind. Also, the cam spring doesn't make the satisfying click/snap when you close the lid. It feels mushy.
I also have the Zorro single flame with the window. Mine are working great except for the cam spring has binded up in one, and dislodged in the other. When I first got them, they were really tight and would hold closed nicely. On the one that is binded, it now doesn't hold closed quite as well (but it's tolerable). The one with the dislodged spring doesn't work right and the spring has partially come out under the cam.
Can you do a video on a cam spring job for these Zorro butane lighters?
Haha yeah bro. Everything that happened to mine happened to yours. That single torch was the last one I had. I gave it away since I posted this video. You would have to drill out the pin in the cam. Replace spring and plastic piece. Don’t know what u would to replace it. I just use zippo ones now.
Very nice and info again, my worry is about the warranty for butane, 2 years vs lifetime.. yellow flame i like too..and is out of stock in EU..
lol stick with the fluid my friend. Only thing that works in the cold. Not a big fan of butane
If you are looking for a soft flame insert that works like OG zippo. The z-plus insert has been working alright for me, it looks like a cheaper copy of the thunderbird but it hasnt started leaking after a year of use. A side not, ive had huge problems with the double flame zippo. i guess its all a coin toss when it comes to lighters
how has it been holding till now ?
@@Oddy25 Been using it for like 2 years now and its still working great. Be prepared though for QA issues. A friend got one from the same place and it wasnt great, he returned it and got another one that works.
@@Oddy25 been over a year now and its works as it should, no leaking gas or anything. Even got my friend one and its also holding up. They are a bit wild if you overfill em but once you let the fire burn for a few seconds they go back to a normal sized flame.
@@Jellooze nice, thank you
Good review - Had issues with a Zippo torch insert not filling (after attempts to properly bleed it) - Called Zippo customer service and they replaced it within a week at no charge! 💪
Yeah they rock ! Best customer service there is
omg thank you so much for this Video that was exactly what i was looking for
I have the Zippo double torch. It's perfect with a cigar.
Glad it’s working for u ! Most people here complain they can’t get it to work lol. Mines been running like a top since I got it
The one you like doesn't stay lit! That's one of the best features of a Zippo.
Currently supper annoyed that the spring loading mechanism for the lid on my Colibri broke and it well.. uhm... flops. So I've been thinking a lot about Zippos (they do have that coolness factor, I have to admit), but as I'm a cigar smoker, I need butane, so it doesnt stink up my cigars. Your video was EXACTLY what I needed to convince me to jump on a Zippo. Thinking about the soft flame one. Either way, these inserts are fairly cheap where I live, so just might try the jet flame too. Thank you so much for taking your time to make this video! Great content, sir!
Thanks ! Yeah I personally prefer the double torch for cigars. The yellow flame is a must have too. But !! Make sure u only run high quality butane in them. Zippo or ronson butane is no good. Hopefully u have some colibri butane left over.
And yes cool factor is through the roof lol u seem like a man of class. Maybe a 41 replica brass zippo is what u need.
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors Thank you for the tip! Much appreciated!
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors That is the model I was actually pondering. Was looking at both the brushed brass as well as the polished one, it's like you're a mind reader, haha!
@@sash762 I try to put the right zippo in the right hands lol
Yo finally....a new video.🤩
Haha u know it buds
Thanks man you cleared my doubts
Thanks for coming back. Sorry about the other day
No worries ❤️
@@obscenesamurai2488 I seen your comment and reply but I misread the reply I thought u were demanding I answer u or u won’t buy from me. Which I thought was weird because I don’t sell zippos lol. I don’t read to good. I went back and seen what were u actually trying to say. My bad
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors misunderstanding do happen😂❤️
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors By the way nice video
Heck yeah so bloody awesome, Have a great day cheers
Thanks tipsy your the man !!!
Hope u staying safe out there brother.
los my zippo dual torch at a lake years back, liked it. Been rcoking the butane soft flame insert a good while in a beater zippo for work. Only downside is lack of flame height adjust. But i got used to it, its not shooting as large a flame as when i first got it. The zorrors are alright, had one, but button broke after about a year
, dont recommend. The zippo soft flame fits like a glove in my standard zippos, but not so well in the only armor zippo i have. The other armor i have is a slim high polish. (from what i can tell, slims dont have any butane inserts on market)
Yeah put a piece of tape on the insert to fit in the armor. Some company did make a butane insert for slim years and years ago. But they are hard to come by. I think zippo will eventually release one
I've got the Yusud and I like the nostalgia of using the flint wheel, plus having the option of a soft flame and blue torch in one. Unfortunately, the thing barely fits in my old zippo case. I had to polish the hell out of the insert to get it into the case, then pull it out of there with a pliers when it's time to refill. I had no idea that zippo made different size cases. Thanks for the informative video!
Shoulda of just got the yellow flame then lol
Gosh you are priceless a wealth of information and enthusiasm and passion that really is a genuine honest opinions . be your own gide a fly on wards and upwards JR OZ
Thanks Jason ! I work hard on these videos and a lot of thought gets put into them. I appreciate it
Been watching your channel for a little while. I thought I was subscribed but I just fixed that.
Anyway, believe it or not, I just happened apon a brand new, unfilled, Zippo double torch lighter on the sidewalk like someone placed it there, just today. The only aerosol butane fluid I have is Neon in the yellow can. Would you trust it to function properly in this insert or not?
Yeah people in the comments say neon is good.
the zippo brand butane torch inserts have a taller chimney that makes them too big for some alternative cases. it wont fit in my 912 and my 3d printed backup case needed to be heated and deformed a little to fit it. also, the normal liquid zorro inserts also make zippo lids not wobble
Yeah I mention that in a lot of videos
I'm also only using all the Zippo inserts now, sometimes I'll use the Zorro fluid insert with the lid.
I'm still looking forward to a video with the 1932 and 1933 Replicas!
Nice. Ryan my guy I need your return adress. I do not have it.
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors is there a way I can get it to you without posting it on RUclips🤣
@@SeiPokGuy send it to tman on discord.
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors Sent message to ComradeTman I'm guessing is the right one
@@SeiPokGuy u got it brother k ill get it from him thanks 🙏
I like my Jet Line inserts, not sure if I've used the official Zippo one because I've been using the Jet Lines for years, before Zippo even released one.
The first thunderbird looks the best. Shame that it sucks. The zippo ones just looks super cheezy. Wish they looked more like an original zippo insert, with the holes.
The zippo ones are superior quality. Also I lake they aren’t the same so I can tell what insert I have in my zippo without taking it out lol
For the yellow flame one, I think it can mod like the Thunderbird shroud to make it more windproof. I got one but it blowout by my breath so easily.
Lol I know I complain about it in the video too. Very easy to put out. But ! Someone who works at zippo very reliable source. told me they are working on a wind proof soft flame for next year or the year after. So I’m pretty excited for that.
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors soft flame thunderbird style “hands free” with zippo quality and some wind proofing would be a dream come true if they could fix the cam issues
@@Jack958This sounds like something I'd buy, and I'm a fluid user. My guess is that if Zippo is really going to release a windproof soft flame insert, it won't have the chimney design Vector uses for the Thunderbird inserts because it doesn't work well for butane. The chimney with the holes inside was designed for a wick. The holes in the chimney diffuse the wind so it cannot blow out the flame easily, but they also let in some air, which increases the evaporation and provides for a strong flame. Air does not increase the flow of butane from a butane lighter's valve, so the holes in the chimney of the Thunderbird are useless for wind proofing and merely a cosmetic issue. The purpose of the Thunderbird insert is to recreate the Zippo experience. You open it (click), you strike without having to press a button, you can hold the lighter in many ways, while a butane release button confines you to a certain way of holding it, just like a Bic, and the flame goes out with a second click. So far, so good. But there isn't much left of the Zippo experience if you have to cup your hands around it the way you would with a Bic.
I have always used an empty sugar packet on loose insert to make it fit right
Clever !
The all metal Zorro butane inserts are only available in double torch, sadly.
Yeah. I like the sight glass ones better anyways. They do perform better. I hate the all steel zorro double torch. Only fits in armors and 41’s. And is janky as crap.
I think the Zippo’s are more consistent in quality. The Zorro’s are ok but you could drop on a good one or a bad one. I have a single jet Zorro in a standard Zippo case, and I can leave it a month between lights and virtually all the butane remains. However, the one I swapped it for ( the dealer sent me a new replacement ) could run out overnight. So I think its more of a gamble, but you can get a good Zorro if you’re lucky. The quality just isn’t consistent.
Bai Lan Let It Rot 摆烂 buy Zippo !!
Much needed video
Thanks !
I just bought my first Zippo armour for cigars only. I bought the Yusud 2 in 1 Combo based off of positive review on amazon. Glad i didn't get a thunderbird since it looks like junk in the reviews.
I liked the idea of using butan yellow flame and the option of a torch in one for cigars. Worst case i'll just get a Zippo official yellow flame butane if I don't ever use a torch for cigars.
Based on my research the torch kinda scared me for burning Tabacco. SO my thinking was use a yellow flame and torch for touch up if needed.
Nice bro ! Yeah one thing about the yudus though virtually impossible to lite outside with a gentle breeze lol yellow flame zippo kites much easier.
Planning to buy zorro single jet for melting paracord hope everything works well.
It should. I think youll enjoy it
Thanks been waiting for this question I had in mind. By the way head to head which butane last longer bic or zippo yellow flame. Anyways good stuff S7VN 7 🔥
No probs albatroz. Well a bic is clearly gonna last longer it holds 4x the butane these small inserts hold. Bic is much fatter and taller. But! Using a zippo is much more classy than using a bic lighter. If your gonna carry a lighter might as well be the nicest one u can get. Bic doesnt offer these options lol.
Zippo is the best fit and works perfect. Zorro double is second but is a tight fit.
Yeah I really only use the zippo inserts that’s why they high on the list. Zorro double does fit a 41 replica with no issues. Because the square sides on a 41. Armor gets tight. I can’t fit one into any of my regular zippos
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors Good to know on the replicas. Kinda pissed me off that I can't close the zippo all the way. It's also a pita to remove.
@@carscigarsscotchnwatches5158 lol I know right. Yeah only the 41 though. I also don’t like how small the flame adjuster is on the zorro. The zippo ones at least I can use my fingernail
hmmmm, I'm still trying to find that all metal zorro insert for single, especially since i have done Walmart black Zippo into brass. I'm planning to use it as my EDC Zippo (non smoker but i deal with Paracord and repairs on the go that need hot glue) that's getting a mix of decal(Eddie the Head), polished and shipwreck patina. however I'm still using my single torch Zippo insert, especially since I'm used to it since 2019. BTW that tape hack, thank you, needed it for my candy apple red Zippo
Thanks arthron. Yeah black gold is just sexy together. Glad the tape is helping !
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors BTW, where would you find the full metal Zoro single jet insert in brass, all I'm seeing is the sight glass one.
@@ArthronOfFir3 honestly I ordered all these 2 years or longer ago I havent looked since. I just remember seeing it but getting the double because I thought it was cooler. U might have to check a few more AliExpress’s stores or they just don’t make it anymore
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors welp, looks like I'll probably use the double for a pirate themed Zippo lighter, especially since I'm forming a pirate metal band in Florida. let's just say shipwrecked patina and some engraving and decals.
@@ArthronOfFir3 really !! That’s pretty cool actually. Who is making the pirate themed zippo for u ?
Drove through Bradford, PA not too long ago and I wish I had stopped in to the Case/Zippo museum. Anyway ... Why does Zippo say that the torch inserts aren't compatible with their Armor cases? Also, thanks very much for the video, it is super helpful.
No problem buds. Because the lid doesnt close all the way with them. There’s is a tiny little hair line u can see it it doesnt close. I don’t even notice it still use them in armors anyways lol.
a fuel button on a Zippo is counterintuitive to your brain that grew up with only lighter fluid inserts - but you get used to it quickly. I'm not a torch guy either. My yellow flame is not adjustable and has a 2"-2.5" flame when full - and only reduces to a more reasonable 1" right before it runs out of butane. If it wasn't for that I'd give it 5 stars -- as is with the wasteful flame - 3 stars (2 stars if it didn't have a replaceable flint). I thought I might have got a faulty one .. but I've seen reviews on the same problem. - guess I'll try a single torch, since I'm not saving much butane with the high yellow flame
Yellow flame uses way less butane than a single torch.
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors - even with a 3" flame? I emailed Zippo after I left my comment -- I may have a faulty one -- waiting for reply ... And I'll be passing on the torch -- one of the main features I want is a replaceable flint.
These defeat why I carry a zippo. Fuel, standard zippo can use several fuels if needed. Butain is butain and harder to find in tuff times/places
Fuel rules !
I really like the idea behind the thunderbird inserts and imagine it lights 1st strike every time. The one thing I typically dislike about butanes is the unreliable piezoelectric arc and hard button presses. Have you found anything else like it that starts the gas release when the lid opens?
I'd like to know as well, I bought a zippo butane pipe insert and am disappointed by the tiny weak flame, and the button hold makes it feel like its not a zippo, I'm going to order a thunderbird this week, it will get minimal use so hopefully it lasts.
its not about the cost, i just simply like a butane insert that stays lit while open. But i dont smoke anymore, so a standard zippo insert sucks because of evaporation and no jet flame. I only now like jet flame because i use it for things like burning paracord or starting a fire
Had problems with my single torch from zippo it just won't light and the flame adjustment is horrible. I've bled it completely and filled it multiple times with zippo butane still nothing consistentin going to try the yellow hopefully it's better
U gotta turn up the governor if it’s the zippo one watch my video on how to fix the the double torch. It’s the same thing
From what I can tell, you can’t get the zorro single jet in the all metal casing without the glass window. Only double jet. Maybe they don’t do them anymore?
I like the single jet with sight glass. Fits in any zippo correctly. That all metal. Only fits in armors and 41’s. Thanks
I don't think the thunderbird 1dt leaks (jet/soft flame combo)
I bought the Thunderbirds and really love them until they start leaking. Big bummer! I'm gonna try the Zippo soft flame because you seem to have more experience than me with the various types of inserts. Question: When you go for a fuel refill, do you adjust the flame all the way to -, then purge all out first? Whats your procedure for refueling? Thanks! Great video btw.
I honestly don’t purge I just refill.
Bai Lan Let It Rot 摆烂 buy Zippo !!
The only cam style insert I've had that has never leaked is my z plus inserts
Z plus insert I have def leaks. And turns into a giant fire ball whenever u try to use it
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors
The newer ones leak I have one of the older style ones with black plastic when they switched to white plastic they started leaking as quality went down
Great review! Have you tried the new Thunderbird piezo electric soft flame insert? It apparently has no leaking issues and has an adjustable flame which the Zippo does not. My only concern about buying one is the Thunderbird inserts have a way worse build quality than the Zippo brand. The Zippo is great but the lack of adjustable flame and fuel window is annoying
Hey Brendan. Thanks I appreciate the compliment. Umm this is the first I’m hearing of it but I will never own another Thunderbird product for as long as I live lol. I’ve had such a bad experience with the brand they have left a permanent bad taste in my mouth. Cheap materials to bad customer service they have done it all. I have the yellow flame as an edc and the flame adjustment has never bothered me once. One less thing that can go wrong with it in my opinion. U are right zippo does have that higher quality standards
A lighter beginner here, can we use these inserts without a case? I mean they work just fine.
Lol if u want. I prefer the case tho
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors any downsides you see without using case?
Great video!
Thanks buds !
The Zippo single torch did not fit my Armor case for some reason, the lid won't close all the way. I made sure the hinge and everything is good.
Weird both the ones I got mine. It’s double torch for me that doesnt fit the armor
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors Yeah I was really bummed out bc I loved the look of the Armor I got. It's the Zippo 62TIBK-RIP with a titanium coating. Some say to file down the bottom of the insert but I don't wanna do all that.
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors In all fairness, on the Zippo official website, it claims that both the single and double tourch insert does not fit Armor.
I've used the Vertigo Z-plus! extreme double torch for a year with no issues. Tried to replace it with Zippo's single torch insert to save butane, but the Zippo torch won't stay lit while inverted like vertigo's torch does, so I can't make use of it. I only wish I could get the z-plus insert to fit in a Zippo case instead of a Vertigo one!
I have a Zorro one, that has a window to see the gas level, but rarely use it. But sadly the cam is really weak... It already broken and also sometime it miss the spark / hard to ignite :(
Yeah I had three of those break on me but I put them all together and made a Frankenstein one
I find the whole spring thing of of the yusud 2in1s ones incredibly annoying. Its super easy to lose the the little spacer on the end. And if you try to use an extra flint as a spacer it just ruins the spring.
Yup I already gave this insert away. Here’s a cool gift lol
What kind of zippo is the 32 ??v. Cause dude!!! That one’s dope!!!!
It’s a 32 replica. I have vids on them if u want the explanation
Will Zippo ever make brass colored butane torch inserts???
They did. I don’t see them for sale anymore but I did make a video when they came out
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors Thank you! I am new to Zippos and already want to find a black butane insert and a gold/brass butane insert! Hope they make them again.
Got my friend an armored brass and double jet butane and the lid doesnt close properly
That sucks. Mine doesnt either. Fits in the 41 replica though.
Sorry to keep adding on, but my vision is not the best, and it took a moment to notice that the Thunderbird has an actual chimney with air holes, just like the original Zippo liquid fuel design, while the Zippo’s flame comes right out of the upper surface of the chimney-like section. It no wonder the Zippo goes out with the slightest puff, while the Thunderbird is somewhat wind-resistant, like the original Zippo design. Once again, Zippo misses that boat, by not better emulating their own successful design.
I’d get the soft flame if I didn’t drive an open jeep on the highway 😂 evap isn’t bad with a regular zippo especially with the freezer bag trick and zippo flints.. flint from dead bics doesn’t help on the highway. Double torch would burnnnn butane$ single may not light at 80
Yeah the windproof ability of regular fluid is unbeatable
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors I’ll barely see the flame & get a light!
Hi, what's the brand of the dual flame? Where can I buy it? Thanks a lot for your knowledge and the video.
Yudus on Amazon I believe. It’s terrible but get it if u want it lol
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors thank you!
The only Zippo butane insert I own is a Zippo double torch insert n Thyrm PyroVault 2.0 Lighter Armor. I had a lot of trouble adjusting the flame to keep it lit. Either it was too little gas and wouldn't stay lit, or it was too much and flared up, then burned up in no time. Now it won't even light at all. I took it with me camping this year and it didn't make it through the summer, but the Bic disposable lighter I had before that lasted a few years. If it was refillable, I'd still be using it, because it never broke, it just ran out of gas. My Zippo is Chinese junk.
Sounds like u need zippo yellow flame insert then. Closest thing to the bic lighter u love so much
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors To me, a yellow flame has always been a sign of incomplete combustion. I'm thinking about switching to a Zippo insert that uses lighter fluid like back in old times.
thanks for this and many other videos, does the zorro double flame insert only fit into specific zorro cases as well? or they are all interchangeable
Watch the video I put them in every type of zippo in the video lol
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors yea man i watched the whole thing but those are zippo cases, it only fits the 41 ad armor. i guess my question is will it fit the zorro 902 or 902s or i need to go up to 912
@@623baller oh lol they might. Some do some don’t
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors ah ok , final question for you my man, are the double torch window ones junk too like the singles? i can find the double torch window ones with a 902 case for cheap but i cant get any of the seller to tell me if the double torch without window will fit into the 902 case