Thanks Mark, really enjoyed that! I own a 530 Tmax DX and absolutely love it. I know there are some comments about fuel consumption. I easily achieve 60mpg on mine and quite happy to open it up (often!). Superb for overtaking in S mode as well as filtering along all those hideous traffic queues! I'm coming up for retirement soon and will definitely be getting the 560 Max Tech having seen your review (obviously haven't told the wife that yet!). It really makes a huge difference having the extras especially as I use it in all weathers to commute. Luxury biking - all the fun of a motorbike with all the advantages of a scooter. Cheers, Pete
@@markpulling12 Bloody hell!!! Yes it's me - long time no see (35 years!!!!) Hope you are well mate - can't believe where the time has gone! Cranbourne Chase is great fun hey?!!!! Cheers, Pete
Hey Mark, I see they are bringing out a new TMax in March 2022. Looks the nuts! Hopefully you will review it from our friends at Crescent! Regards Pete
Well my 2004 Tmax500 has now done nearly 70.000 miles and has been absolutely faultless. Brilliant bike, daily commute into London and toured all over Europe on it, but suppose it's about time I upgraded!
I purchased a standard 560 version late last year. So far it’s certainly lived up to expectations and the GS has stayed in the garage. Sums it up really.
Steve, scooters are so amazing these days, one doesn't have to hassle with top heavy bikes, clutches and foot brakes anymore. I rode many big touring bikes (Gold Wing GL1100 Interstate etc.) in my younger days, earlier this year I bought an immaculate ST1300 based on those fond memories... I kept it for one month and did less than 50kms, I just found it too big and bulky.
Fantastic review Mark, I bought one exactly the same 2020, and I am overjoyed with every single ride, it is so smooth at 90 mph with cruise control on,the rev counter is only on 6000 RPM.. I'm 6-ft and it is hugely comfortable.. love all the gadgets,just love it..cheers Mark👏🏽👍🏽👍🏽😁
Loving the feet forward riding. Prev owned an xmax for its balance of speed, versatilty and storage. Have always liked the tmax, but have always felt it should have more storage than it does. Great review as always
Great review and finally someone who "gets it" re. cruise control on big scooters (can't believe only Yamaha offer it though makes buying decisions easy!). I bought an ex-demo 530DX last year and absolutely love it - not cheap but I think of it as a half-size FJR1300AS rather than "just" a scooter. It's fast, comfortable, handles and is just as much fun as my "proper" bike which I barely use anymore. About the only thing I'd change would be for a TFT dash with Android Auto/Apple Carplay (as mounting a phone isn't easy), but apart from that the old school clocks are fine and clear. When I trade in my 530 I can't see me getting anything other than another TMAX!!
I have a 2020 T-Max 560 & absolutely love it. Mine does not have the cruise control or electric screen though I have put heated grips on it. A superb bike which was a demonstrator with only 600 miles on it, for £8500 I think I got a bargain. Goes like the clappers & is away from the lights whilst others have only just realised that they are green. 😃 I also have a 2002 Fazer 600 which is also great.
I used to ride a Honda integra nc700 with dct. I rode through London every day around 40 miles commute. After a year I part exd it for my Honda forza 300 2018. I found that the Integra gearing was annoying and I longed for a belt drive automatic or a tmax. The gearing could not decide if 1st or 2nd was best when filtering around 20mph. Also it was long and heavy for filtering. Also a lot of road noise leaked through the folks /dash area. I rode a tmax the 2nd generation and it was both smoother and quieter. I still am wanting to get a tmax but the forza 300 is pretty good. Great reviews Mark! I remember you saying if money where no object you would have a tmax in your collection.
Definitely Aaron ...I'd love one ...like you say the smaller scooters 125/300 size are better round town but these big maxis make great tourers :) All the best mark
@@markpulling12 yesi guess I'm trying to find a bike which will do everything, commute, Sunday rides and the odd long distance. I think this bike will do this. My 300 is not that good for really long rides. I also have a cbf600 which is more suited to touring. Just a pain tax, mot, insuring two bikes.
have a forza 300 and old tmax; super riding; new ones just too $$. looking at the nc50x dct when it comes to thailand. yes-- in city driving is far easier on a scooter.
i bought one of these last august ,i had a yam fjr 1300 before that which was getting a bit to heavy for me as im heading into the mid seventies age wise ,i can honestly say the tmax is the best bike i ever had its so comortable easy to get on and very fast.
Great review as ever Mark . I added a Maxi Scooter to my garage last year , a 07 low mileage Honda Silver Wing 600 . Love mine , they make so much sense and are more fun than people imagine . Mine cost 2000 pounds . The cost of that electric screen and heated grips and seats 😁😁
First of all Mark, I really enjoy your thorough and concise reviews. I recently got a new XMAX 300 as a replacement for my 2004 Honda Silver Wing. I like it a lot, but there are some things I would change. The TMAX looks like a great machine. I wish it was available here in the USA. I like that it has a more motorcycle-like rear suspension. The big GT scooters just aren’t brought here except the BMW. Cheers.
@@silentinvestor really only 2 minor things: I find the seat a bit too wide at the top, making it hard to flat foot maneuver. I’m 6’4”, but I also have a prosthetic leg which complicates things. Also I would like the headlight aim to be higher for longer reach down the road. Other than that, I have no complaints. A parking brake would be nice though.
I hope you'll also test the Kymco AK 550; these are my 2 options for a maxi scooter for now. I removed Honda Forza 750 and SYM Maxsym TL from my list because of the final chain drive.
This is a rare machine in the U.S. I purchased a 2009 Tmax 2-1/2 yrs ago for $3,000 in great shape. Steal of a deal. I did my Christmas shopping in December around downtown Spokane on the scooter in 38 deg weather. Best time Christmas shopping ever. Never seen another Tmax here. Nice to find another rider enjoying the same bike.
Thanks again, Mark. I agree that this TMax 550 is better than the Forza 750. Yamaha gives the rider what he wants. Where as, Honda low ball's it, leaving one wanting for more. It's not about engine size as much as it's about weight vs torque/hp. Yamaha nailed it again on this offering. Great engineering and great marketing. The only thing missing is a bit better gas milage. I was expecting around 65-70 mpg. I think they made the decision to tune for performance over milage. However, Xmax 300 seems to be tuned more for gas milage, while still being rapid. But ya gotta love this TMax 550... Gord
Thanks Gordon yes I'd agree the tmax is fantastic to ride but pricey....the 300 is a great cheaper option ...I like the Forza 750 but would get the nc750,,,x dct instead Mark
@@markpulling12 Mark, I'm curious. Do you like the Yamaha VCT or the Honda DCT transmission better? It seems that the DCT might have a bit more character, especially in manual mode. When it comes to the Honda NC750 with DCT and the Yamaha Tracer 9 GT with speed shifter... I know you wouldn't punt... but would go for the gusto. Yes, the Tracer is more money... but for what you get, it's priceless. Plus, the NC750 Is almost as heavy as the Tracer. But that extra cylinder and 150 more cc's really pushes it over the top. I located two in my area that are new and for sale at Yamaha dealers. Gordon
@@markpulling12 good info.. i want the nc750x dct but had no idea on the forza 750 that is not available in Asia ; anyway. I hear the engine is the same.
Great review mark,came across your channel recently,I use to ride as a learner on a aprilia rs50 in 1997 a car pulled out and I went over the bonnet lucky to be alive it put me of riding,until now and want to go for my test and your reviews have had some good beginner bikes.
I bought a mk3 in 2008 new, only 2 wheeler i ever owned out of 20 that i kept more than a year, had it 3 years and 3.5k spent on mods, its on my channel, best fun ever but suffered coccyx and back pain severely over the years so sold it, used to be great outriding bigger faster bikes, much to the embarrassment of my mates who mocked me when i traded my ktm 950sm in for it until i showed them i could smoke them on the twisty stuff.
As for seat height, when I'm stopped I must lean the scoot over slightly, so that my (left) foot is flat on the floor. You don't really need both down, unless there is a huge crosswind! They are fab things to ride - they do everything apart from go offroad. I've had SEVEN of them over the years, but Yamaha's build quality is declining. The early ones were super reliable but I've had a whole series of failures on newer versions. Latest thing was that the rear shock absorber failed after 11,000 miles. So I'm looking at the Forza 750.....
A very nice machine. Amazingly Honda didn't bother with CC - otherwise it could have been a pretty tough competition.... So for now, The Forza 750 is off my list. This one is on !
Great review as ever. I’m torn between this and the Forza. Frankly, this is better rounded and Honda fell short for the money. Heated grips, electric screen, CC and long heritage. My ATAS DCT is quite annoying in town either dragging first for too long or third which is too high and where CVT wins out.
Thanks for your insights! I’ve just changed my Xmax to the Tmax which is identical to the one you tested. I am also 5’7”. The wider seat is fine if one footer on the ground. My feeling is that the suspension is softer than expected.
We love our XMAX 300 , just a good around scooter , unfortunately they don’t have the TMAX available in our State in the US, if the TMAX 560 had been available at that time we wouldn’t have hesitated in buying one , just love the comfort ease of twist and go ,and the fun factor.
Hiya Mark, my main ride is a VFR1200x for which I do many miles on, but as I've always liked scooters I purchased a 2020 burgman 400 for those days when one just fancies a pootle about at leisure and it's a magnificent ride and puts a big grin on my face when riding it. A maxi scoot is a great second bike to have indeed if one can find the funds to have two rides. I managed to get a great deal on my 400, £5750 brand new in Matt black with blue wheels and 100% happy with it 👍🏻. I don't think i'de part with 12k though for a scooter as that is a enormous amount of coin
Hi Mark, I was out today and my mate kindly agreed to swap bikes so I got a go on his 2021 TMax Techmax 560. Along with that I managed to pursued my local Honda dealer to let me have a go on their Forza 750 in the showroom on a trade plate, lucky boy eh. Glad I’ve now had the chance to try both back to back with the TMax winning me over. I’ve ordered one which arrives in March. That says it all I reckon. Regards John
They're great scoots. I had a mark 3 500. May well get another... If it was me I would have left the brake test until after one of my favourite bends on Dorsets leafy lanes...Nice review Mark, thanks.
Great review Mark shame they've dropped the Matt Black option, i have a used 530DX with a Hyperpro rear Spring which lowers it by 20mm i paid 7k for my 2yr old with 500 miles. I test rode the 560 but honestly couldn't tell the difference in power.
Brilliant video, i bought last year the tmax tech max but now decided to buy the forza 750, because my short leg just like you Mark i’m only 5’8” and still streching and i’d try the forza and is just safer when i need to stop, because is lower seat height and not too wide seat. Going on saturday for a test drive will see🤔
These scooters will now do everything a normal commuter bike will but with the added practicality of under seat storage and far better fuel consumption.. My main ride is Triumph Bobber and I find I am using the scooter more and more as no chain to mess with far more comfortable etc
The seat looks a very comfortable derriere pad. Very well featured piece of kit including the belt drive, adj screen, centre stand lock. How many key fobs? Very impressive bike, scooter don't worry about the semantics. Like you say heated grips,seat, belt drive, cruise control, smooth, good pick-up. Definitely add a 56 litre Givi top box as I have on my CB500F. With that screen this is better.
Im a total convert. Bought mine a year ago imagined I ride my Honda for fun and this to work. Not been on my Honda since. One Caveat, they're so popular to thieves (despite the locking centre stand) that my pal was going to buy one but was unable to get insurance in London.
Just got a Tmax 2021 with 3000 k on the meter. Perfect for city commuting, and more.... DONT LIKE Yamahas pricing of the top-box with fitting kit. 1000 EUR all in all. What to use instead? With Givi you have to drill holes in the plastic panels on the back???
What's it like in terms of how it handles bumps in the road? I've been riding bikes for just over 3 years now and tried quite a few in that time! For some reason I am really sensitive to bumps in the road. I just feel like I'm being jolted up and down for the entire ride when on country roads. All suspension seems harsh to me these days. I keep searching for that one bike where I ride it and think "this is the bike". Not found it yet.
Hi mark ..ha .ha the " illusive" bike syndrome I'm like that :) I found it to be very forgiving over the bumps ... didn't jolt me out of the seat ...it handled similar to a motorcycle ...very impressive to ride Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 Cheers Mark. I keep feeling that I'm really indecisive over bikes but I see plenty of people changing bikes every few months so I'm not alone haha! :-D
Royal Enfield Himalayan is very good over bumpy roads. Has the added advantage of being pretty decent off road, as well. Downside - don't be in a hurry. It's a 'B' road plodder. Upside, it's only about £4,500 brand new.
Wish I bought this. Had to settle for 2018x max 400... Rectifier went at 5000 miles so shock for a yamaha. Still a little pricey for the t max but great spec... Just a bit scepticle now about yamaha reliability.
@@volt8684 actually. It wasnt the rectifier in the end.. At least I don't think. My handbrake seized to the rear disc causing drags which in turn ended up frying the battery which I only found out AFTER forking out for a rectifier so still unlucky 😅. Moved on to a t max 2019 530 dx since then per thumbnail. Fookin love it.
Hi Mark,your one off the bloggers to have had the privilege of riding the 560 tmax and Forza 750.I currently am in the position of deciding to try a maxi scooter and it's here were I would appreciate your past experiences. Did you have a preference,and if your were buying one which would it be. Looking forward to hear you opinion. Regards Ian.
@@markpulling12 can I ask, what is your opinion on the new T max 2022 visually? See the new handlebar frame and that big ass screen in the middle? I much prefer the aesthetic of the 2021 model simpler and more pleasing and I find that big screen thing a bit OTT on The new model. Which would u prefer in all honest opinion? I'm going to be forking out over 14k for one and I don't really use sat nav at all so not sure if I'd need it which I think the big screen is there for. Sure if I did, I'd have an earphone and use my Google maps for direction.
@@markpulling12 i have to agree. I want to buy new and between the front panels and the weird metal handle bar and big bright screen, it's a bit to dressed up for my liking and too techy... . The 2020 model dash is just simpler and easier on the eye. It's definately the winner. Thanks for your opinion 😊
I had my heart set on an XADV the older one and tested one when they first came out,I couldn’t believe how uncomfortable the seat was I’m 6”3 the bike was great tbh,I seen they remodelled the bike 2021 so again had a sit on the newer one and although different the same feeling poor seat.I also sat on the Forza 750 but couldn’t test on the road but didn’t feel it would have had any better seat on it.I really need to test one of these as they sound superior! Certainly couldn’t be any worse than the square seat on the XADV
I've watched this review and that of the 2022 model many times and just realized that I've bought this very machine from Crescent. I prefer the semi analog screen and I certainly don't want all the connectivity of the 2022 model when I'm out and about - trying to get away from it all.
Great bike - I want one. Since a machine like this is also likely to be urban transport an urban test including filtering would be nice to see. . Good review though - Thanks,
They should bring them to Canada we only have the Burgman 400 want some thing a little better for the highway. we had the Burgman 650 but a little over loaded with things you do not need like power marrows the Yamaha TMAX 560 tech max has what you need for out climate heated grips and seat and a good windshield. If you could get a good size trunk on it, it would be a great touring scooter. Had the Yamaha Majesty 400 and loved it, wish they still made it.
Hilton, you hit the nail on the head. I also own a Burgman 400. It’s got great space, room to stretch and generally all I need. But I’d love to have a little more power for some of the mountainous freeways here out west. The Burgman 650 is such a bloated pig (well over 600 lbs). Whereas this Tmax is only a little heavier than the the Burgman 400. With 562cc ! I suppose it doesn’t matter now, as the B650 is discontinued. I’m not thrilled with the Kymco AK550. But if Yamaha or Suzuki doesn’t get off their ass, (in the states) I might have to look elsewhere
Hi had a look and can't find anything ...you usually just see luggage carry weight listed like say 15 kg ish .. .this bike is more than capable of carrying two large 6ft people with ease I would say Best regards mark
Really great review Mark - you covered everything. Might have to put that on my shopping list - oh, and a CBT. Might need that!! Doesn't it have a neutral position then?
@@markpulling12 Thanks Mark. yeah I knew it's CVT - although you were the only review video that actually said that!! So basically if you're not grabbing the brake, off you go!!
@@danielforde-pogson haha no it's not like an auto car which would move forward when your in drive.. when you rev the tmax it's clutch engages THEN you move forward ...but yes it's good practice to hold a brake on while stationary
Hey Mark. Very nice review. Is that scooter available in the US? I'm dying to get one. I've owned 2 scooters and I love them. (I had a Aprilia Scarabeo 500ie for 13 years.) 🙂
I'm currently on a PCX150 and have been looking at the TMAX 530 for a while, but that and the 560 are still a little pricey. After viewing your XMAX300 video I that may just become my intermediate until the TMAX prices drop.
Have you reviewed the kymco AK 550? I hear it it is a beast. Kymco is not available in Ireland but financially it is a better option. I actually prefer its look to the t max as well.
The neutral wire to the battery needs to be extended to get the battery out fully. It's so hard for me to get to the neutral screw because of my big hands.
Hi Steve I did ride it a bit through town at 30 mph and it's super smooth and easy to filter ...it's a big scooter but I'd say it's good for commuting cheers mark
It's ideal for commuting - i have the 530 btw. I commute from near Basingstoke to Hammersmith, so M3 and town work. Need to fold mirrors in for tight filtering as the bike is quite wide. Electric screen excellent as are heated grips and seat. Cruise control excellent ideal for average speed check zones. Good storage, wish the tank would be bigger though. MPG about 55-60, 80mph is about 6k rpm
Yamaha T-max will always be top Scooter, great product from start to finish from the boys at Yamaha, my little 50cc aerox was so much more premium in build quality than all my friends other scooters (honda, piaggio, peugot, aprillia)
@@ed.t.hansen6499 you do realise im comparing the build quality of the aerox to the other 50cc scooters. not comparing it to a 650cc tmax. you muppet.. lol!
@@markpulling12 thanks mark always been watching your channel might pull the trigger next year im coming off xmax 300 hope theres a big difference between them
I hate CVT. It is soulless. I am not anti-scooter as I ride a 155 every day. But I'd rather have just about any motorbike than a scooter if I wanted to have fun. I'm not anti-automatic, either. My next bike will have DCT. This scooter is ludicrously priced. Rant over. The usual excellent review.
@@markpulling12 Keep up the good work. I love the thoroughness of your reviews. The reviews are about the bikes, not about you. Unlike some RUclips vloggers.
Youll soon want a cvt transmission again in no time over a dct. Although the dct is good. But a replacement transmission alone will cost as much as the bike. Very expensive if they have issues.
@@JDMz If the Honda I have my eye on had a record of DCT problems, I would buy the manual version. But they don't have those problems. All gearbox replacements are very expensive. I used to have a BMW R1100GS; the gearbox went at 53,000 miles. I assure you that costs a lot.
One observation I make is that it appears as if the cruise control is on the left handlebar. I have a Kawasaki Vulcan Voyager 1700 (a cruiser I know and a different brand) but the cruise control is on the right-hand grip as it is on the Goldwing and the Can Am Spyders that I tested. That seems logical to me. It wouldn't be the reason not to buy the bike and I guess I'd get used to it but it just seems off. I live in Australia where we drive on the same side of the road. I don't want to labour the point but it makes no sense.
I like a touring scooter but that seat height (I am the same height as you and with an inside leg an inch shorter) and with the wide seat and the weight on top I won't be beating a path to my local Yamaha dealer.
Hi David tricky choice as they are both brilliant...but I'd go for the tmax ...I prefer the CVT transmission on scooters ...and it's handling was a little more sporty ...plus it has cruise and the amazing electric screen Shame it's so expensive though Cheers mark
I would love to own one of these but at £12,000 and being a pensioner it’s just a pipe dream I’m afraid especially with the cost of living out pacing any increase we have received.
Really fancy one of these but the Burgman 400 is half the price. Just want something nippy for city/B-roads and don't need TMax touring capability as have a big bike. But the extra oomph of this is tempting.
@@markpulling12 yeh but they hold their value well. 2019 mint Tmax £8K. New pre-reg Burgman £6K with 3(?) year warranty. Will try and get test rides - no Suzuki or Yamaha dealer in Aberdeen though, which also brings the Forza 350 into the picture as there's a good local Honda dealer here. Although it looks a bit fuddy duddy next to the TMax.
@@GS-xg4nz yes fair point still expensive I had a 2011 burgman 400 for a while great bike ....my current favorite mid size is the Forza 350 ..they are well priced and go very well :)
I have a 2009 Tmax 500 cc and consistently get 54 mpg. I had a Honda 750 Shadow cruiser and got 60 mpg. The cvt transmission is not so efficient as well as the higher revs on the Tmax.
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Thanks Mark, really enjoyed that! I own a 530 Tmax DX and absolutely love it. I know there are some comments about fuel consumption. I easily achieve 60mpg on mine and quite happy to open it up (often!). Superb for overtaking in S mode as well as filtering along all those hideous traffic queues! I'm coming up for retirement soon and will definitely be getting the 560 Max Tech having seen your review (obviously haven't told the wife that yet!). It really makes a huge difference having the extras especially as I use it in all weathers to commute. Luxury biking - all the fun of a motorbike with all the advantages of a scooter. Cheers, Pete
Thanks Pete ....yes the best maxi scooter out there ...I went to school in Salisbury in the 80s with a Pete Jung :)
@@markpulling12 Bloody hell!!! Yes it's me - long time no see (35 years!!!!) Hope you are well mate - can't believe where the time has gone! Cranbourne Chase is great fun hey?!!!! Cheers, Pete
Hey Mark, I see they are bringing out a new TMax in March 2022. Looks the nuts! Hopefully you will review it from our friends at Crescent! Regards Pete
This is my dream bike. Too bad the accident I had in 2017, stops me from riding again.. I literally felt peaceful watching you ride the TMax.
really sorry re your accident ..thanks for watching best regards mark
Well my 2004 Tmax500 has now done nearly 70.000 miles and has been absolutely faultless. Brilliant bike, daily commute into London and toured all over Europe on it, but suppose it's about time I upgraded!
Thanks Neil 🙂
I purchased a standard 560 version late last year. So far it’s certainly lived up to expectations and the GS has stayed in the garage. Sums it up really.
Thanks Steve ...sounds great
Regards mark
Steve, scooters are so amazing these days, one doesn't have to hassle with top heavy bikes, clutches and foot brakes anymore. I rode many big touring bikes (Gold Wing GL1100 Interstate etc.) in my younger days, earlier this year I bought an immaculate ST1300 based on those fond memories... I kept it for one month and did less than 50kms, I just found it too big and bulky.
Same as my experience with my 530dx! My "fun bike" (Suzuki SV650) just stays in the garage now...
@@johnnyfanta thanks Johnny ...yes these are so good I see why your sv650 stays still !
Cheers mark
Fantastic review Mark, I bought one exactly the same 2020, and I am overjoyed with every single ride, it is so smooth at 90 mph with cruise control on,the rev counter is only on 6000 RPM.. I'm 6-ft and it is hugely comfortable.. love all the gadgets,just love it..cheers Mark👏🏽👍🏽👍🏽😁
Great stuff Stan sounds great !
Best regards mark
i will buy one too in maximum 2 years
And have you bought one ?
@@silentinvestor
I have one and a new tracer 9gt both great bikes well done Yamaha ! The 560 is the best touring scooter in my humble opinion…
Thanks Paul ...yes its an awesome scooter ...I really enjoyed it
Regards mark
Loving the feet forward riding. Prev owned an xmax for its balance of speed, versatilty and storage. Have always liked the tmax, but have always felt it should have more storage than it does. Great review as always
Thanks !
Cheers mark
Great review and finally someone who "gets it" re. cruise control on big scooters (can't believe only Yamaha offer it though makes buying decisions easy!). I bought an ex-demo 530DX last year and absolutely love it - not cheap but I think of it as a half-size FJR1300AS rather than "just" a scooter. It's fast, comfortable, handles and is just as much fun as my "proper" bike which I barely use anymore. About the only thing I'd change would be for a TFT dash with Android Auto/Apple Carplay (as mounting a phone isn't easy), but apart from that the old school clocks are fine and clear. When I trade in my 530 I can't see me getting anything other than another TMAX!!
Thanks johhny yes these are great :)
I am in total agreement on the cruise control.
I have a 2020 T-Max 560 & absolutely love it. Mine does not have the cruise control or electric screen though I have put heated grips on it. A superb bike which was a demonstrator with only 600 miles on it, for £8500 I think I got a bargain. Goes like the clappers & is away from the lights whilst others have only just realised that they are green. 😃 I also have a 2002 Fazer 600 which is also great.
Thanks Clive I agree an awesome maxi scooter
definite bargain. in Asia they are 540 baht or nearly 16,500 usd.
Thank you for the honest review, bro! I have just ordered mine. I can't wait.
Thanks stefan .... great choice :)
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 You are welcome, Mark. Good luck
I used to ride a Honda integra nc700 with dct. I rode through London every day around 40 miles commute. After a year I part exd it for my Honda forza 300 2018. I found that the Integra gearing was annoying and I longed for a belt drive automatic or a tmax. The gearing could not decide if 1st or 2nd was best when filtering around 20mph. Also it was long and heavy for filtering. Also a lot of road noise leaked through the folks /dash area. I rode a tmax the 2nd generation and it was both smoother and quieter. I still am wanting to get a tmax but the forza 300 is pretty good. Great reviews Mark! I remember you saying if money where no object you would have a tmax in your collection.
Definitely Aaron ...I'd love one ...like you say the smaller scooters 125/300 size are better round town but these big maxis make great tourers :)
All the best mark
@@markpulling12 yesi guess I'm trying to find a bike which will do everything, commute, Sunday rides and the odd long distance. I think this bike will do this. My 300 is not that good for really long rides. I also have a cbf600 which is more suited to touring. Just a pain tax, mot, insuring two bikes.
have a forza 300 and old tmax; super riding; new ones just too $$. looking at the nc50x dct when it comes to thailand. yes-- in city driving is far easier on a scooter.
As I get into my late 30's I have started appreciating automatic motorcycles and scooters
i bought one of these last august ,i had a yam fjr 1300 before that which was getting a bit to heavy for me as im heading into the mid seventies age wise ,i can honestly say the tmax is the best bike i ever had its so comortable easy to get on and very fast.
Thanks Bernard I agree :)
Great review as ever Mark . I added a Maxi Scooter to my garage last year , a 07 low mileage Honda Silver Wing 600 . Love mine , they make so much sense and are more fun than people imagine . Mine cost 2000 pounds . The cost of that electric screen and heated grips and seats 😁😁
Thanks Gary ...yes the silver wings are great .... good price !!
Cheers mark
First of all Mark, I really enjoy your thorough and concise reviews. I recently got a new XMAX 300 as a replacement for my 2004 Honda Silver Wing.
I like it a lot, but there are some things I would change. The TMAX looks like a great machine. I wish it was available here in the USA.
I like that it has a more motorcycle-like rear suspension. The big GT scooters just aren’t brought here except the BMW. Cheers.
i got a 300 too what dont u like
@@silentinvestor really only 2 minor things: I find the seat a bit too wide at the top, making it hard to flat foot maneuver. I’m 6’4”, but I also have a prosthetic leg which complicates things. Also I would like the headlight aim to be higher for longer reach down the road. Other than that, I have no complaints. A parking brake would be nice though.
@@steveb7310 im 5,5 and i plant one foot always. u lost your leg riding?
@@silentinvestor lost it to drunk driver when giving someone a jump. I can flat foot it both sides, but it spreads my legs so wide it feels awkward.
@@steveb7310 this makes me really mad. the drunk driver should lose a foot as well
I hope you'll also test the Kymco AK 550; these are my 2 options for a maxi scooter for now. I removed Honda Forza 750 and SYM Maxsym TL from my list because of the final chain drive.
choose the tmax kymco has awful resale value and has some problems tbh
You are so right!👍Great machine well equipped, very quick set off, amazingly fast for a maxi scooter! 👏
Thanks Colin. :)
I love my 2009 Tmax 500....... Yamaha please bring these BACK to America !!!!! I want a 2022 Model Tmax .
This is a rare machine in the U.S. I purchased a 2009 Tmax 2-1/2 yrs ago for $3,000 in great shape. Steal of a deal. I did my Christmas shopping in December around downtown Spokane on the scooter in 38 deg weather. Best time Christmas shopping ever. Never seen another Tmax here. Nice to find another rider enjoying the same bike.
Thanks again, Mark. I agree that this TMax 550 is better than the Forza 750. Yamaha gives the rider what he wants. Where as, Honda low ball's it, leaving one wanting for more.
It's not about engine size as much as it's about weight vs torque/hp. Yamaha nailed it again on this offering. Great engineering and great marketing.
The only thing missing is a bit better gas milage. I was expecting around 65-70 mpg. I think they made the decision to tune for performance over milage.
However, Xmax 300 seems to be tuned more for gas milage, while still being rapid. But ya gotta love this TMax 550...
Gord
Thanks Gordon yes I'd agree the tmax is fantastic to ride but pricey....the 300 is a great cheaper option ...I like the Forza 750 but would get the nc750,,,x dct instead
Mark
@@markpulling12 Mark,
I'm curious. Do you like the Yamaha VCT or the Honda DCT transmission better? It seems that the DCT might have a bit more character, especially in manual mode.
When it comes to the Honda NC750 with DCT and the Yamaha Tracer 9 GT with speed shifter... I know you wouldn't punt... but would go for the gusto.
Yes, the Tracer is more money... but for what you get, it's priceless. Plus, the NC750 Is almost as heavy as the Tracer. But that extra cylinder and 150 more cc's really pushes it over the top.
I located two in my area that are new and for sale at Yamaha dealers.
Gordon
@@markpulling12 good info.. i want the nc750x dct but had no idea on the forza 750 that is not available in Asia ; anyway. I hear the engine is the same.
Great review mark,came across your channel recently,I use to ride as a learner on a aprilia rs50 in 1997 a car pulled out and I went over the bonnet lucky to be alive it put me of riding,until now and want to go for my test and your reviews have had some good beginner bikes.
Thanks James ...good luck with your test....yes there are some brilliant beginner bikes out there ! ;)
Regards mark
I bought a mk3 in 2008 new, only 2 wheeler i ever owned out of 20 that i kept more than a year, had it 3 years and 3.5k spent on mods, its on my channel, best fun ever but suffered coccyx and back pain severely over the years so sold it, used to be great outriding bigger faster bikes, much to the embarrassment of my mates who mocked me when i traded my ktm 950sm in for it until i showed them i could smoke them on the twisty stuff.
Thanks for the comment Des ,!
As for seat height, when I'm stopped I must lean the scoot over slightly, so that my (left) foot is flat on the floor. You don't really need both down, unless there is a huge crosswind! They are fab things to ride - they do everything apart from go offroad. I've had SEVEN of them over the years, but Yamaha's build quality is declining. The early ones were super reliable but I've had a whole series of failures on newer versions. Latest thing was that the rear shock absorber failed after 11,000 miles. So I'm looking at the Forza 750.....
Thanks for the comment Tim ...yes the Forza 750 is great !
What is your height? I am 5 feet 7 with a 29 inch inside leg and I am afraid I might have to lean too far over, lose my footing and topple over!
Another awesome review MP! Keep it up 🇬🇧
Thanks very much tom :)
Amazing & well detailed review. This is the bike that i really want to buy. Ride safe & stay safe mark.
👍👍👍
Thanks again Jojo :)
A very nice machine. Amazingly Honda didn't bother with CC - otherwise it could have been a pretty tough competition.... So for now, The Forza 750 is off my list. This one is on !
Thanks ...I'd go for this one aswell because of the cc and that screen
Regards mark
Great review as ever. I’m torn between this and the Forza. Frankly, this is better rounded and Honda fell short for the money. Heated grips, electric screen, CC and long heritage. My ATAS DCT is quite annoying in town either dragging first for too long or third which is too high and where CVT wins out.
Thanks for your insights! I’ve just changed my Xmax to the Tmax which is identical to the one you tested. I am also 5’7”. The wider seat is fine if one footer on the ground. My feeling is that the suspension is softer than expected.
Thanks Alfred :)
how does it compare to the xmax
@@silentinvestor hi it's quite alot faster but more than double the price ... but it's probably the best maxi scooter on the market :)
@@markpulling12 is it worth it
one day i will buy one for sure
We love our XMAX 300 , just a good around scooter , unfortunately they don’t have the TMAX available in our State in the US,
if the TMAX 560 had been available at that time we wouldn’t have hesitated in buying one , just love the comfort ease of twist and go ,and the fun factor.
thanks... shame you cant get it where you are in the states ...what state out of interest ?
regards mark
@@markpulling12 hi Mark we are originally from Broadstairs Kent We are in OK , miss the coast.
@@davidbrewer8847 cool ...my mum moved to Kentucky 20 years ago !
Hiya Mark, my main ride is a VFR1200x for which I do many miles on, but as I've always liked scooters I purchased a 2020 burgman 400 for those days when one just fancies a pootle about at leisure and it's a magnificent ride and puts a big grin on my face when riding it. A maxi scoot is a great second bike to have indeed if one can find the funds to have two rides. I managed to get a great deal on my 400, £5750 brand new in Matt black with blue wheels and 100% happy with it 👍🏻. I don't think i'de part with 12k though for a scooter as that is a enormous amount of coin
Fair point it is expensive I've had experience of burgman 400s and they make alot of sense as a second bike for pottering about on
Cheers mark
Pero cómo mola ese acento :)...y esa mákina!. Excelente review..Top 10.
Gracias por El comentario :)
i wish i can experience tmax in my life :)
very informative. . . planning on buying one. . .watching from quezon city, philippines 9:09AM june 2, 2021
Thanks ... greetings to the Philippines ! Regards mark
Mark is the best bike reviewer on RUclips
Thanks Jack 😊
Hi Mark, I was out today and my mate kindly agreed to swap bikes so I got a go on his 2021 TMax Techmax 560. Along with that I managed to pursued my local Honda dealer to let me have a go on their Forza 750 in the showroom on a trade plate, lucky boy eh. Glad I’ve now had the chance to try both back to back with the TMax winning me over. I’ve ordered one which arrives in March. That says it all I reckon. Regards John
Thanks John great choice :)
That was a really nice and thorough review - nice touch with sitting positions and revealing your height. Thank you for this.
My pleasure ketil
Regards mark
one of the best reviews for this monster Thanks 😎👍🇺🇸
Many thanks ed :)
They're great scoots. I had a mark 3 500. May well get another... If it was me I would have left the brake test until after one of my favourite bends on Dorsets leafy lanes...Nice review Mark, thanks.
Thanks for the comment peter 🙂😊
Great video my friend. I'm 6' 3" and I'm going to purchase one soon here in Texas. Nice information as well.
Thanks great choice
Regards mark :)
Is it not in the US market? The V-Strome would be the my choice if I am that tall.
Is it available in the US? I can't find it here in California.
@@SponsorShort I have found a 500 in Ft Worth TX but no 560.
This scooter is not in the United states so good luck lol
Great review Mark shame they've dropped the Matt Black option, i have a used 530DX with a Hyperpro rear Spring which lowers it by 20mm i paid 7k for my 2yr old with 500 miles. I test rode the 560 but honestly couldn't tell the difference in power.
Thanks for the comment...yes this is the second tmax I've ridden and I think they are great ...they go very well for just 45 ish hp :)
Cheers mark
Beautiful job on all reviews! Tks!
My pleasure chuck :)
Cheers mark
Brilliant video, i bought last year the tmax tech max but now decided to buy the forza 750, because my short leg just like you Mark i’m only 5’8” and still streching and i’d try the forza and is just safer when i need to stop, because is lower seat height and not too wide seat. Going on saturday for a test drive will see🤔
Thanks tamas let me know what you think :)
These scooters will now do everything a normal commuter bike will but with the added practicality of under seat storage and far better fuel consumption.. My main ride is Triumph Bobber and I find I am using the scooter more and more as no chain to mess with far more comfortable etc
Another excellent and informative review 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks Mr Olney :)
Going to buy one actually soon. Great review thanks
The seat looks a very comfortable derriere pad. Very well featured piece of kit including the belt drive, adj screen, centre stand lock. How many key fobs? Very impressive bike, scooter don't worry about the semantics. Like you say heated grips,seat, belt drive, cruise control, smooth, good pick-up. Definitely add a 56 litre Givi top box as I have on my CB500F. With that screen this is better.
Thank You Almighty God I will buy one for myself
Forza for me definitely. What shocks does it have? Smaller front wheel? 2k more. Dash looks very dated needs full tft
Im a total convert. Bought mine a year ago imagined I ride my Honda for fun and this to work. Not been on my Honda since. One Caveat, they're so popular to thieves (despite the locking centre stand) that my pal was going to buy one but was unable to get insurance in London.
Thanks for the comment Ian .. yes I've heard they are hot in London !
we have a similar problem in my city, can i ask you how much does it cost an insurance in London?
Just got a Tmax 2021 with 3000 k on the meter. Perfect for city commuting, and more.... DONT LIKE Yamahas pricing of the top-box with fitting kit. 1000 EUR all in all. What to use instead? With Givi you have to drill holes in the plastic panels on the back???
Thanks for sharing 👍 😊. A beast of Bike 🏍 👏 safe ride
What's it like in terms of how it handles bumps in the road? I've been riding bikes for just over 3 years now and tried quite a few in that time! For some reason I am really sensitive to bumps in the road. I just feel like I'm being jolted up and down for the entire ride when on country roads. All suspension seems harsh to me these days.
I keep searching for that one bike where I ride it and think "this is the bike". Not found it yet.
Hi mark ..ha .ha the " illusive" bike syndrome I'm like that :)
I found it to be very forgiving over the bumps ... didn't jolt me out of the seat ...it handled similar to a motorcycle ...very impressive to ride
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 Cheers Mark. I keep feeling that I'm really indecisive over bikes but I see plenty of people changing bikes every few months so I'm not alone haha! :-D
Have you tried a BMW.
@@lesmoore6336 no but the c400 looks good :)
Royal Enfield Himalayan is very good over bumpy roads. Has the added advantage of being pretty decent off road, as well. Downside - don't be in a hurry. It's a 'B' road plodder. Upside, it's only about £4,500 brand new.
Excellent review, deffo worth a test ride, could be the perfect tourer
Couldn't agree more!
Wish I bought this. Had to settle for 2018x max 400... Rectifier went at 5000 miles so shock for a yamaha. Still a little pricey for the t max but great spec... Just a bit scepticle now about yamaha reliability.
Dont be, unlucky, think u will find yamaha are recorded as most reliable motorcycle atm
Agreed. As a matter of fact, I’d have no problem recommending any of the Japanese big 3 bikes regarding reliability.
@@volt8684 actually. It wasnt the rectifier in the end.. At least I don't think. My handbrake seized to the rear disc causing drags which in turn ended up frying the battery which I only found out AFTER forking out for a rectifier so still unlucky 😅.
Moved on to a t max 2019 530 dx since then per thumbnail. Fookin love it.
Hi Mark, Great review. You got anything pencilled in to review the new 2022 version? Cheers
Hi yes I'll be reviewing all the new Yamahas once they arrive here in the UK later in the year cheers mark
Hi Mark,your one off the bloggers to have had the privilege of riding the 560 tmax and Forza 750.I currently am in the position of deciding to try a maxi scooter and it's here were I would appreciate your past experiences.
Did you have a preference,and if your were buying one which would it be.
Looking forward to hear you opinion.
Regards Ian.
Hi Ian both are brilliant machines but I just preferred the t max over the Forza ....it felt lighter more fun and better handling...best wishes mark
Hey Mark, In your opinion which would you choose the TMax 560 or the Forza 750. Regards John
Hi John from memory the Forza is cheaper ....and it has a wonderful engine ...think I'd go for the Forza :)
Cheers mark
Just came back to look at the last beautiful T max model released. Genuinely thinking now to go for the 2021 model. It looks so badass.
Thanks Richie ....best maxi scooter out there :)
@@markpulling12 can I ask, what is your opinion on the new T max 2022 visually? See the new handlebar frame and that big ass screen in the middle? I much prefer the aesthetic of the 2021 model simpler and more pleasing and I find that big screen thing a bit OTT on The new model. Which would u prefer in all honest opinion? I'm going to be forking out over 14k for one and I don't really use sat nav at all so not sure if I'd need it which I think the big screen is there for. Sure if I did, I'd have an earphone and use my Google maps for direction.
@@richiep3520 the new one will be alot more money I expect ...you'll get good deals on a 2021 model and it's awesome .. 100% get the 2021 I'd say :)
@@markpulling12 i have to agree. I want to buy new and between the front panels and the weird metal handle bar and big bright screen, it's a bit to dressed up for my liking and too techy... . The 2020 model dash is just simpler and easier on the eye. It's definately the winner.
Thanks for your opinion 😊
The Tmax tech 560cc 2022 is a step-up!
good review as always...thanks Mark
Thanks Marcel :)
I had my heart set on an XADV the older one and tested one when they first came out,I couldn’t believe how uncomfortable the seat was I’m 6”3 the bike was great tbh,I seen they remodelled the bike 2021 so again had a sit on the newer one and although different the same feeling poor seat.I also sat on the Forza 750 but couldn’t test on the road but didn’t feel it would have had any better seat on it.I really need to test one of these as they sound superior! Certainly couldn’t be any worse than the square seat on the XADV
Thanks for the comment Alexander...I found this to be a comfortable seat cheers mark
I've watched this review and that of the 2022 model many times and just realized that I've bought this very machine from Crescent. I prefer the semi analog screen and I certainly don't want all the connectivity of the 2022 model when I'm out and about - trying to get away from it all.
Dream bike love one been on a 125 for 4 years now so hungry for more thesedays
Thanks yes these are amazing :)
Great bike - I want one. Since a machine like this is also likely to be urban transport an urban test including filtering would be nice to see. . Good review though - Thanks,
Thanks for the feedback thomas
They should bring them to Canada we only have the Burgman 400 want some thing a little better for the highway. we had the Burgman 650 but a little over loaded with things you do not need like power marrows the Yamaha TMAX 560 tech max has what you need for out climate heated grips and seat and a good windshield. If you could get a good size trunk on it, it would be a great touring scooter. Had the Yamaha Majesty 400 and loved it, wish they still made it.
Hilton, you hit the nail on the head. I also own a Burgman 400. It’s got great space, room to stretch and generally all I need. But I’d love to have a little more power for some of the mountainous freeways here out west. The Burgman 650 is such a bloated pig (well over 600 lbs). Whereas this Tmax is only a little heavier than the the Burgman 400. With 562cc ! I suppose it doesn’t matter now, as the B650 is discontinued. I’m not thrilled with the Kymco AK550. But if Yamaha or Suzuki doesn’t get off their ass, (in the states) I might have to look elsewhere
Hi Mark, thanks for the great review. Would you happen to know the max carrying weight of the TMAX? That is max combined weight of rider and passenger
Hi had a look and can't find anything ...you usually just see luggage carry weight listed like say 15 kg ish .. .this bike is more than capable of carrying two large 6ft people with ease I would say
Best regards mark
@@markpulling12 thanks ☺️
Really great review Mark - you covered everything. Might have to put that on my shopping list - oh, and a CBT. Might need that!! Doesn't it have a neutral position then?
Hi Daniel no it's twist and go so no neutral gear :)
@@markpulling12 Thanks Mark. yeah I knew it's CVT - although you were the only review video that actually said that!! So basically if you're not grabbing the brake, off you go!!
@@danielforde-pogson haha no it's not like an auto car which would move forward when your in drive.. when you rev the tmax it's clutch engages THEN you move forward ...but yes it's good practice to hold a brake on while stationary
@@markpulling12 Aha...Even I could ride that!! Still need a CBT though! Really keen to do that now! It'll open up a whole new world.
Hey Mark. Very nice review. Is that scooter available in the US? I'm dying to get one. I've owned 2 scooters and I love them. (I had a Aprilia Scarabeo 500ie for 13 years.) 🙂
Hi no I dont think it is available which is really strange ... thought it would be a great seller in the states
Cheers mark
I'm currently on a PCX150 and have been looking at the TMAX 530 for a while, but that and the 560 are still a little pricey. After viewing your XMAX300 video I that may just become my intermediate until the TMAX prices drop.
Thanks I think the xmax 300 is great ...it's very quick and great fun at less than half price of a tmax
Cheers mark
Would the acceleration be similar to a 650cc dual sport style bike? I'm sure not close to a sport bike.
yes spot on... similar to a 650 :)
Why are these not more popular in the UK? Looks like so much fun.
Yes wierd isn't it ?
I really like maxi scooters
Cheers mark
I think the £12,000 price tag isa huge stumbling block to be fair…
Have you reviewed the kymco AK 550? I hear it it is a beast. Kymco is not available in Ireland but financially it is a better option. I actually prefer its look to the t max as well.
Hi Richie no I think I'd struggle to find a demo on the kymco but yes agreed it looks an amazing maxi scooter .. cheers mark
It would be nice if you could get hold of the new Sym Maxsym TL 508 for comparison....
The US needs to wake up and sell these here! I really want to upgrade my XMax to a TMAX.
I been saying the same thing for months now. Wake up, Yamaha!! Send us some bikes!! Please??
The neutral wire to the battery needs to be extended to get the battery out fully. It's so hard for me to get to the neutral screw because of my big hands.
Good video Mark as usual 👍, what’s it like commuting, round town etc. ?
Hi Steve I did ride it a bit through town at 30 mph and it's super smooth and easy to filter ...it's a big scooter but I'd say it's good for commuting cheers mark
It's ideal for commuting - i have the 530 btw. I commute from near Basingstoke to Hammersmith, so M3 and town work. Need to fold mirrors in for tight filtering as the bike is quite wide. Electric screen excellent as are heated grips and seat. Cruise control excellent ideal for average speed check zones. Good storage, wish the tank would be bigger though. MPG about 55-60, 80mph is about 6k rpm
Awesome can’t wait 😝
❤️🥇🇦🇺☀️👍
Thanks for the comment regards mark
Yamaha T-max will always be top Scooter, great product from start to finish from the boys at Yamaha, my little 50cc aerox was so much more premium in build quality than all my friends other scooters (honda, piaggio, peugot, aprillia)
Thanks for the comment
Certainly is an amazing scooter :)
Aerox is on the bottom of my list for all scooters. forza, xmax, tmax. etc.
@@ed.t.hansen6499 you do realise im comparing the build quality of the aerox to the other 50cc scooters. not comparing it to a 650cc tmax. you muppet.. lol!
Hey mark i have a question. You have ridden both the Honda xadv and tmax 560 which of this 2 would you recommend?
Tough choice as they are both brilliant but money no object I'd go xmax 560 it's just a stunning ride
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 thanks mark always been watching your channel might pull the trigger next year im coming off xmax 300 hope theres a big difference between them
@@destructiveflow6964 bid difference :)
Great Mark, thanks. Keep well
Lovely many thanks :)
Beautiful video thanks 🙏🏼
Cheers Wayne ☺️
Thanks for another great update 👍
If the exhaust is anything like the 530 I’d be in doubt as the paint job comes off after a few months, Apart from that it’s a great bike.
replace it with termignoni
I believe the servicing on the last model was every 3000 miles which isn't alot for a maxi gt scooter
can't get cruise control added unless ya get the complete techy packgage . WHY !
Hey Mark, how does this compare to Honda NC750x DCT or Forza 750 which one is better
Hi the tmax is expensive but it's a dream to ride ....I love the nc750 but if I wanted a scooter I'd go for the tmax cheers mark
@@markpulling12 Thank you, MP
Great comprehensive review
I hate CVT. It is soulless. I am not anti-scooter as I ride a 155 every day. But I'd rather have just about any motorbike than a scooter if I wanted to have fun. I'm not anti-automatic, either. My next bike will have DCT. This scooter is ludicrously priced. Rant over.
The usual excellent review.
Thanks for the fair comment good points cheers mark
@@markpulling12 Keep up the good work. I love the thoroughness of your reviews. The reviews are about the bikes, not about you. Unlike some RUclips vloggers.
@@1990-t1j thanks :)
Youll soon want a cvt transmission again in no time over a dct. Although the dct is good. But a replacement transmission alone will cost as much as the bike. Very expensive if they have issues.
@@JDMz If the Honda I have my eye on had a record of DCT problems, I would buy the manual version. But they don't have those problems. All gearbox replacements are very expensive. I used to have a BMW R1100GS; the gearbox went at 53,000 miles. I assure you that costs a lot.
One observation I make is that it appears as if the cruise control is on the left handlebar. I have a Kawasaki Vulcan Voyager 1700 (a cruiser I know and a different brand) but the cruise control is on the right-hand grip as it is on the Goldwing and the Can Am Spyders that I tested. That seems logical to me. It wouldn't be the reason not to buy the bike and I guess I'd get used to it but it just seems off. I live in Australia where we drive on the same side of the road. I don't want to labour the point but it makes no sense.
Thanks for the comment Roger 🙂👍
which scooter would you prefer...theHonda Forza750 or the Honda Tech Max
Hi Thomas I think you mean the yamaha tmax 560
I like the Forza but I prefer the CVT of the tmax plus it's amazing to ride
So tmax for me :)
@@markpulling12 Ty you always for reply
I like a touring scooter but that seat height (I am the same height as you and with an inside leg an inch shorter) and with the wide seat and the weight on top I won't be beating a path to my local Yamaha dealer.
So, the Tmax 560 has smaller storage space than the Xmax 300?
Yes ...just for one helmet
I had 2 1x500cc 1x530 Awesome bikes
Thanks Richard I agree 😊
Which did you enjoy the more this one or the Forza?
Hi David tricky choice as they are both brilliant...but I'd go for the tmax ...I prefer the CVT transmission on scooters ...and it's handling was a little more sporty ...plus it has cruise and the amazing electric screen
Shame it's so expensive though
Cheers mark
I just bought this thanks for the info...
Ok Colin thanks great choice :)
I would love to own one of these but at £12,000 and being a pensioner it’s just a pipe dream I’m afraid especially with the cost of living out pacing any increase we have received.
best commuter bike in all universes
Thanks Lee ...yes it's awesome !
Really fancy one of these but the Burgman 400 is half the price. Just want something nippy for city/B-roads and don't need TMax touring capability as have a big bike. But the extra oomph of this is tempting.
Thanks yes these are an awesome ride .. pricey I know ....maybe a mint used model ?
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 yeh but they hold their value well. 2019 mint Tmax £8K. New pre-reg Burgman £6K with 3(?) year warranty. Will try and get test rides - no Suzuki or Yamaha dealer in Aberdeen though, which also brings the Forza 350 into the picture as there's a good local Honda dealer here. Although it looks a bit fuddy duddy next to the TMax.
@@GS-xg4nz yes fair point still expensive
I had a 2011 burgman 400 for a while great bike ....my current favorite mid size is the Forza 350 ..they are well priced and go very well :)
At 49 miles per gallon, this is one thirsty beast!
I have a 2009 Tmax 500 cc and consistently get 54 mpg. I had a Honda 750 Shadow cruiser and got 60 mpg. The cvt transmission is not so efficient as well as the higher revs on the Tmax.
Is that the comfort seat?
Or standard T Max seat?
LED indicators?
Regards.
It's just the standard seat Stevie
i sometimes use a airhawk inflateable cushion that i had on a cruiser i once owned which is great for long runs
@@markpulling12 cheers Mark, I upgraded the standard X Max 300 seat to the comfort seat. Huge difference and looks 100 times better.
I like how the British review bikes. I don't care about cool factors, just tell me the facts.
Thank you
Thanks arob :)
What is the visibility like through the screen when it's raining?
Hi its ok as the wind blows the screen and clears it quite effectively
Cheers mark
How long do you think the engine will last, 50,000 - 100,000?
Hi michael yes modern engines with regular servicing and oil changes will do 50,000 + miles no problem :)