LSO - The Music Men 1965
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- Опубликовано: 5 дек 2023
- A documentary from 1965 about the London Symphony Orchestra as it was at that time, largely narrated by my father, Principal Bass, Stuart Knussen. My brother, composer Oliver Knussen (1952 - 2018) managed to track a copy down on VHS. Because he is also featured as the 13 year old prodigy he was, Oliver was very protective of this film and reluctant to share it. Eventually, after years of trying, I managed to borrow it from him and burned it to DVD.
My father would have been 100 years old on December 7th 2023. Sadly he died at the age of 66, as did my brother. In honour of Stuart's centenary I have decided to share it on RUclips. Virtually all participants in this film have passed away so I am not expecting any complaints from individuals. The LSO might have an opinion. We will see. The audio is jumpy in places as it was on the original VHS tape. Enjoy, and please 'Like' this video.
Ken Knussen
PS. SMOKING KILLS! 
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Just to let you know Kurt-Hans Goedicke is still alive and well and living in Scotland in spite of all the cigarettes smoked in this film!!!! Angela Goedicke
I remember him well from the 1970s - always in control and never put a stick wrong.
Good to know he’s doing well! That man is a legend and totally inspired me to start practicing the art of timpani :) what a guy! Please let him know I wish him well and that he inspires the youth of today. He’s very appreciated
@@henrygingercatKHG is a legend! He inspired me to pick up the timpani and study hard..
I had just joined the LSO and it is thrilling to see again after all these years.I was playing assistant 1st. to Barry in the Enigma.
and 1st. in the Beethoven under Kertesz
Such a pleasure to have brought you some good memories, David. Who were the other horn players other than "Uncle Barry", (as I knew him)?
@@kennethknussen7569 I was Barry's co-principal of course:Jimmy Quaife 2nd.;Bob Noble 3rd. and Roger Rutledge 4th.
wonderful! Oliver was a wonderful human being and musician! Wonderful memories....
thanks so much for posting this. I had the special opportunity to know Stuart when he conducted the Greater Victoria Youth Orchestra in Victoria, BC, Canada in his last years. He was a great mentor and shared his love of music with us. Lots a funny stories such as when rehearsing the Elgar Serenade and the orchestra wasn't sufficiently following his instructions, a payphone in the rehearsal room rang. He walked over, answered the phone and said, "Yes, Mr. Elgar, I'll tell them.. That was Mr.Elgar calling and he agrees with me!" All the kids were laughing hard. Another time, when we performed in a church, before starting, he pulled back his suit jacket to show a pin of a devil that was only visible to us. It was really funny. Lovely man and very humble. Thank you Stuart
The municipal town halls of the 1930s made ideal recording venues which were particularly popular with the recording industry. As well as Wembley, there was Barking Town Hall and Watford Town Hall. Time has bypassed Barking, these days, but Watford become the home for CTS after they had to leave their Wembley Studio when it was demolished for the new stadium. That's where my brother served his apprenticeship as a recording engineer.
What an absolute gem! Thank you for sharing.
Thanks so much for making this available Kenneth. How wonderful to see the 13 year old Olly!
Thanks for this evocative look at the way things were - note the appearances of Neville Marriner leading the second violins.
I remember most of the players here in the LSO. I joined as a young cellist in the mid '60's and left in 1968. So interesting to name all the players as they featured in this video.
I was a pupil and friend of your Dad. He stayed at my house when he was in Toronto. Matter of fact , He was on his way back to Toronto for a visit but sadly passed away the night before traveling. There isn't a day.....
Thank you so very much for putting this on RUclips. I've watched it 5 times so far.
My dad was one of the viola players. George
Thanks you for sharing this gem! Big fan of the LSO, particularly from that period!
I was the keyboard player at this time and i recall when Stuart appeared with Ollie who was 13 at the time with a MS under his arm which the LSO played. I'm 92 now but I was keyboard for 14 years and it's so nostalgic for me to see all those wonderful players. and remember well working with Monteaux. I remember the time in Israel when we were entertained by Tel Aviv city and turned up late for rehearsal, was it Kertesz or Solti ? and the picture in my mind was the conductor pacing up and down in front of the orch. being chased by the orch. manager and the conductor shouting "I will not be pacified I will not be pacified!!!" Harold Lester
Thankyou for uploading this gem! Lovely to see some old friends, teachers, acquaintances etc., some gone now, some still with us
beautiful! and can't believe some are smoking in rehearsals!
I really enjoyed the documentary. As a professional orchestral musician, I find so many aspects of this movie fascinating like the pressure of producing records to survive. Also funny to see the amount of smoking and the sheer excitement for the breaks but in many ways everything in the orchestra is timeless.I thought the principal violist looked familiar and that's because he conducted the National Youth Orchestra of Canada when I was a member in 2001. Sir Colin Davis also conducted my college orchestra in New York around the same time. Your father is a great narrator and he has a beautiful relationship with your brother. I also thought the back and forth between him and Sir Thomas Armstrong was very pertinent and still relevant to this day. Thank you.
Oh this is wonderful. It's from slightly before my time but I recognize some of the players (Howard Snell for instance). I believe your Dad was friends with Leopold Stokowski who of course conducted and recorded with the LSO a lot in his "Indian Summer" period late in life. Your brother was a big Stoki fan (and made a nice recording of the Stokowski Pictures with the Cleveland Orchestra). I heard a story that once your father mentioned to Stokowski that he had devised a method of playing that sounded like the bass was muted but without an actual mute. Apparently at the next rehearsal where a mute was called for Stokowski called out to Stuart - "Mr. Bass - vy you have no mute?" Manoug Parikian told me that Stokowski was "undoubtedly a great conductor - but I wouldn't go into the jungle with him."!
Stuart Knussen - known generally as 'the red snapper'!
Thanks so much for posting this, hope to see you for a pint sometime. x
The cigarettes!!😱. Different time…
Ha Eric Gruenberg, leader, smoking whilst playing ! Thanks so much for posting
What a wonderful record of your father's work with the LSO. Isn't it incredible to see members of the orchestra smoking during the rehearsal! Although many years from this video, I saw the LSO at one of their concerts in Melbourne in May this year, and the playing was superb.
1965. Just before the best ever Enigma recording with LSO in 1958 with Pierre Monteux. It was Decca then .Fascinating part with Istvan Kertesz asking about the control he had as Principal conductor.
Oh, I'm glad you mentioned it. That was the recording I grew up with b/w Brahms Variations on a theme by Haydn St Anthony Chorale.
It remains one of my favourite orchestras together with the Concertgebouw! Nice to see some footage of Kertesz. He was such a great talent who died much too soon! And is it Stuart Knussen? I played a lot under Ollie Knussen who was a genius in his own way. There is also Neville Marriner with sun glasses?! Vittorio Negri was a very good producer but a mediocre conductor. Nowadays it is unthinkable the smoking during rehearsals haha. A really great document this documentary !
The recording producer is Vittorio Negri I think, a conductor in his own right. He was one of the Philips producers in that era and in which they seemed to prefer Wembley Town Hall as a venue.
"Fiddles worth 1000 or 1500 each"...........inflation!
Is that Ray Premru on trombone?
No - Frank Matheson
Ni una mujer.
Si, pero por la era, normal. En todos los orquestras sobre Europa, mas o menos, el mismo.