"This is not a popular subject, just like traumatized people themselves are not popular people... because they remind us about how irrational society is". He really is an incredible speaker and writer
Sometimes the trauma of how society treats you feels far more traumatizing than the trauma itself. Unfortunately it is not possible to educate each person so they see how you feel. It’s real sad.
"A lot of people still think that truama is something that's happened to you is a story about the past. but that story about the past is a trauma, your brain gets changed and you see the world differently, you see and experience things differently from other human beings" I couldn't agree more with this statement. It's so frustrating when people assume that we're choosing to dwell on the past, when in reality, our brains have been altered by trauma. It's not about refusing to let go, it's about our brains being wired to respond to the world in a way that's driven by survival instincts, rather than rational thought. We're not stuck in the past, we're stuck with a brain that's constantly trying to protect us from perceived threats. It's not about 'moving on", "getting over it" it's about finding ways to rewire our brains and reclaim our lives. What's even more heartbreaking is that often, it's the people closest to us who fail to understand this.
Trauma gets "DISCOVERED" and "FORGOTTEN". I couldn't agree more. Mine gets forgotten like a file folder in a corporate office building in the 1980's. I've had a lot of difficulty around accepting that trauma has changed my brain and body. I've done a lot to numb my pain throughout my life. This year, I began incorporating Yin Yoga into my life. It's a style stretches and targets both the deep connective tissues between the muscles, and the fascia throughout the body. Every time that I do it, I physically feel emotions being released from my body. Oftentimes, I feel so vulnerable afterward that I don't know what to do with myself. Ultimately, this has been a healing year for me and I have to thank Bessel van der Kolk for that.
You know since i was a kid i just had to stretch and hold, i have no formal training in yoga at all still to this day, i just listen to it because i swear my body begged for it, like a dog wants it belly scratched every fibre in my body begged to be stretched, Ive done it my whole life, it has worked for me quite well now meditation, nope too hyper but I’ve always enjoyed long walks in nature so good for the soul
Thank you mate for you kind words.. I only recently found about this guy, and your short story resonated with me.. if you have a dog or family who have a dog lover - crazy friend, my world trying to help animals who are broken to avoid actually fixing me.. the numbing you mention can sadly relate to.. Thanks for your words 🇦🇺🦘✌️🐾🤠🐶🌄🦮
@@Australiantourforyourdog I can relate. It’s interesting that we can feel the pain and sadness of cruelty towards animals and therefore want to help them. And we can feel the anger towards their perpetrators. I believe by feeling (vicariously) for these animals we still do some repressed feeling releasing of our own.
Why Dr. Van Der Kolk has not been given a Noble Prize says more about the prize than him. I just hope he knows how many lives he has changed, how many hearts he has touched and begun healing...there are simply no words to express gratitude and love for him.
I am a survivor of trauma. You are the first person that I have heard say that Yoga works for PTSD.. Let me dust off my mat and start again. Thank you!!
@@me_rio_sola I meant it as a compliment! I know meditation works. I know aligning your body is common sense. I have been trying to get out of trauma.. A GOOD point!! Again thank YOU!
@@saathoff1220 This is an old comment but yes yoga definitely helps if you have the right intentions in mind. If you’re just stretching to stretch, then the only thing that you will feel is more flexible lol. However if you use visualization of loving kindness for your own body while doing yoga, or others things that get you to move your body, it helps you feel more in touch with yourself. That’s what works for me. A lot of healing is just having the right intention and mindset when approaching these sorts of things
@@bradenjlloyd you probably could have, but you can't but you only think you're better when in fact your worse and the better you think your getting the worse your getting so it's better to feel worse than feel better
I heard an amazing interview - Krista Tippett interviewing Bessel van der Kolk. One thing he explained was the REASON why doing body movement (and this would include dance - not just yoga - maybe many things like Tai Chi, Chi Gong maybe even some sports) could heal trauma. I think a lot of people dismiss this idea as being "new agey," hippiesh, etc. No. He explains the research that shows how trauma changes the brain, how different parts of the brain become disconnected. In order to heal it's necessary, he says, to reconnect and reintegrate them. Body movement is what does this. I think he mentioned reconnecting the amygdala (where we process fear and threats) and the frontal cortex. He talked about his work with veterans and how for years, the VA refused to take him seriously. I personally believe that dance is an incredibly powerful tool for healing psychic trauma and goes virtually unused in our society as a healing therapy while we dish out drugs like there's no tomorrow.
Thanks Thinking that what you believe in is closest to the truth We are all infants In understanding the human mind I have no joy in my life so dancing will Not Work for me
After my husband died I had a dance compulsion… never got into drugs or alcohol but I would go out to live shows and dance like a dervish. Always felt like I was a little selfish for insisting on all those nights out, but now I realize it was an essential component of how I survived those years
Psychiatric Drugs Destroyed my life and the psychiatrist I went to traumatized me more , the bullshit that exists in the field of mental health is INSANE .
my favorite movie is Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind and it took me over a decade to realize why that movie hit me so deep and made such an impact in my life.... while I felt sad for the characters who wanted to erase their minds, I subconsciously also wanted to erase mine and felt envy of medical technology that didn't exist. It's so hard to live in a world where you want to forget your pain, but also society doesn't want to hear about your pain and just wants to hide you away and pretend you don't exist.
This may our may not work for you... but I loved Julia Ross' book "The Mood Cure" on this subject. It's explaining how different amino acids help balance our thoughts, moods, and emotions. I've found intense relief when I tried some of the things she suggests in the book. Like 5-Htp, which is a precursor of serotonin. (Try finding a good reliable brand, and don't take too much, when you're first trying it.) When I'm tortured by flashbacks of repetitive thoughts and resulting feelings, taking this supplement stopps these thoughts and emotions within 15 minutes. It's basically brain chemistry. I love Van der Kolk's body approach, but sometimes immediate intervention is needed/helpful. Each flashback or tortured moment is one to many. I love how people are educating themselves on this topic these days, and hope this will one day soon be common knowledge for all
Medication is okay but too many doctors are just pushing pills and that is it. That isn’t sufficient treatment to holistically look at healing. I completely agree!
There were some misconceptions about healing that I had to let go of in order to heal further, one of them was that I had to conjure up old anger and "release" it. But "old anger" is what's called "resentment" and I had to learn how to let go of that. Whatever you do more of will impact who you are- that's what I believe now at least, so I try to do little things every day to improve my everyday life and it actually works! Healing is a journey that only ends when we die, there is no end goal when we are "finished" but there are little victories along the way where we might notice how far we've actually come compared to a few years ago.
Trauma lives in the whole mind body, not out in the world. With few regulated people available to offer compassionate empathy to help one regulate, somatic release tools are the way through. Yoga, TRE (trauma release exercises), breathwork, sound healing (drumming, tuning forks), myofascial release, energy tapping all combined have been my life's restoration practice.
Trauma gets discovered and forgotten again and again 2:28 Trauma sufferers (and society) want to forget 3:12 Difficulty of talking about trauma 3:40 Trauma changes the brain 4:18 Trauma lives in your body 5:15 Numbing your body 5:56 Western solution vs alternative therapy 6:33
By not wanting to cope with your traumatic experiences society isn't aware of the golden opportunity they miss of learning, remidiating, changing, growing and evolving. There is gold in opening up to trauma. 💪🏻⭐️🌸
Bessel's book 'The body keeps score' is utterly fascinating and extremely insightful/helpful. I have the utmost professional respect for Besel and find him a most empathic human spirit. I would love to see more videos of him sharing his perceptive insights... thank you very much indeed
Wow…the last sentence about yoga being more effective is something I know for myself, but hearing it from an expert just reinforces my intuition and I can’t thank you enough! 🙏🏼
Wow! 'Drugs are the alternative medicine'. I'm sending this to my GP who has maintained for 21 years that 'some people' need to 'stay' on medication. My instincts have always been right. I am committed to one day becoming medication free 💪💪💪
@@madfun13 I'm not yet there my friend due to other health issues but I am committed to being free from medication. Thanks for asking. Wishing you a very happy Christmas!
I was told by my GP that I had to stay on Thyroid medication for life. After much research I decided to try to heal my thyroid, it took me 2 and a half years, now I'm medication free and plan to stay so for life.
Research epigenetics and neuroplasticity, Roger! The doctors to look out for are Dr. Caroline Leaf, Dr. Bruce Lipton and Dr. Joe Dispenza. They discuss the possibility of the human mind healing the body. Good luck! 🤍✨
It would be a gift to sit, sip coffee and chat with Dr. Van der kolk; Brilliant, lovely man. I miss myself. I'l write my story, colorful yet, dark. Perhaps like a good painting. I realized my saving grace is intelligence, love of books, sense of humor and creativity; these keep me alive. I've been "Carrying Mountains".
Trauma has really made me an expert at survival. I literally have had to utilize so many coping mechanisms to get through. It's liberating to give my trauma a name and tell others that it follows me around. It has been so healing to be able to do that.
@Sweeting beautifully said. Who was it that said the past isn't dead; it isn't even past??? That says it all for me. Unspeakable trauma. I cope and wish I could forget. I'm only okay now, which is a million times better than I was before, but it never goes away. God bless all of us 🙏😘
As far as any abuse goes first do not accept any guilt or responsibility. Let the Lord Jesus heal you. Ask Him to help you understand why there are so many sociopaths and psychopaths in the world. You just so happened to be in the path of evil. But you are more than conquerers in Christ. Journal your feelings then put that away for a couple of days and read it as if someone other than you wrote it. Start being grateful for Gods blessings. You are Gods child and you don’t mess with Gods kids. God has made you perfect. Do NOT let your circumstance define your beauty. Because that is what you are. Gos gives you beauty for ashes. He states in His word that “ No weapon formed against you will prosper”. Finally see yourself forgiving your rapist. For this is for you and not for them. Ask the Lord to open your heart to forgiveness and mean it. Even if you have to say it out loud 1000 times. Take some bold steps. Make a new friend that is trust worthy and kind. Meet them at church. Go to church and ask the pastor for counseling for in the abundance of counseling there is much wisdom. I pray that God gives you the desires of your heart. Healing is in the book of proverbs. Read, absorb, commit much to memory. It will transform you.
Wow. I’m so stinkin grateful I came across the teachings of Dr Bessel van der Kolk. And what an amazing human, being able to come thru the trauma of the second world war AND gather the information and knowledge we need for humanity to evolve.
I'm so happy science catches up with what "alternative healers" like myself have practiced. It's great to see it all coming together now and the biological context is fascinating. Thank you all so much for the great work.
Bravo to you for choosing a healing profession outside the convention, that you knew was effective, in spite of the skepticism from outsiders and from the mainstream. I am so glad the tides are turning in acceptance of adjunct and alternative and complementary therapies!!!
a good girl I never aspired to be until I was found anyway. I still use speed just as a maintenance stimulator. I don't get high I just maintain. I had so many nvoluntary lock downs for suicide attempts then I finally did thirteen months in prison for DUI. I can't pay to get a therapist here to help me put all the damage I did in the right order. I must outlive Jessica my beautiful disabled daughter so I bought a guitar SG400 Epiphone instead of the classical I used to play so long ago I began fingerstyle electric lessons, that door was open and it is a better plan than psychedelics! Hey thats what the devil is selling only I did that in the 70's no didn't find God and night terrors etc continued. I am desperate to heal and play guitar and enjoy Jessie as long as God gives her time with me and learn to use a sewing machine and continue my green living and food growing and add off-grid energy plus the rain barrel I plan to order next month. Que sera sera.
It's no mystery that I developed Cancer of the Gut. This is a really GREAT glimpse into the mind of a Trauma Victim. For me, the Breathing is starting to work..that alone, took 4 years. I would fight it in my mind. I was so angry and hurt of that early family betrayal that became the norm, that I couldn't even take a DEEP.breath. That's how "Locked Down" I was..I have to remain mindful.that I'm damaged in ways no one can see, and I prefer to be ready to remind myself that my reaction might be a little excessive, so it's important NOT to react so quickly, because words cannot be taken back. I PREFER to think things over while I breathe properly, and say over and over, "This will Pass. It's only a feeling."
It takes a long, long time to "not react", for people like myself. I grew up in a household in which everyone was fighting. They were screaming, but no one was listening. I learned to duck my mother's angry slaps, if someone was going to be punished it was always me, who got it.
I think they all come together, it's a package deal. I feel like when one comes to the surface and you work on it then the another bubbles to the top to be worked on.
So correct: society dosent want to remember Trauma , individuals don’t want to remember trauma because it’s to painful, and it’s just over all not a very popular topic oh my God! Yes!!! How on earth can we talk to people about this? It’s also people’s concept of the ego that makes it hard to deal with this I see to
People who have suffered from trauma need to come together as a group and talk about all this and help each other. I'm one of the victims of childhood trauma. I have seen your playlists. Seems like you are one too. Also you are on point with your other comment about yoga. Yoga and meditation are only powerful spiritual practices which can transform our lives.
As a person whose family was both sent to concentration camps and some of whose family escaped to America. As a child I saw pictures of our dead ancestors thrown like garbage in piles in trucks in Abba Eden’s book “My People” . It was a difficult thing to come to terms with. I felt sadness, anger horror and even proud of their courage. It strengthened my fortitude somehow but there is always some residual sadness. Later I met WW2 hero’s who I met as a nurse and I was honored to listen to their 1st hand accounts of Japanese POW camps and one was a member of platoon dropped to Normandy during D day. He told me only 1/9 paratroopers survived before they hit the ground. Somehow he survived but they each lived with PTSD to some degree or another. It’s one thing to read accounts, entirely another to look into the eyes of men who saw things they’ll never forget .
What's considered alternative therapy is actually an essential therapy. So true, Yoga and TRE exercises etc would be considered hippyish where I am from. Medication,drink, drugs, rambling to a therapist and general moaning are what's considered everyday norms. I need to start packing my bags.
also look at the work of stephen porges and the role of the vagus nerve. it's why yoga would be more beneficial than any other therapy. it explains how trauma exerts itself in an ongoing way in your body.
there are many "outlets" so to speak to handle "trauma" - "drama" - "abuse" and more: we have CHOICES...hence, no real excuses for becoming an abuser to others or our ownselves. Spirituality: the journey within and some prof help does work together with leading a healthy lifestyle.
@@milagiganticurchod6138 Incorrect. It seems to me that you're coping with the existence of an abuser in your life, if I may assume. Please do not spread clear misinformation like this, it's very irresponsible. Thanks :).
It IS a full ré éducation of one self. For me it IS like changing so deeply my way of being that i became an other person because trauma is making a person an other thing that it was meant to be.
Sadly, Bessel, who I met in Michigan in 1997, has not apprised himself of the trauma recovery that occurs in 12-step meetings, including the emphasis on what Carl Jung called a transformative "spiritual experience", most often as a result of the unconsciously perceived "protection and care" of the 12-step meetings. I'm a retired psychiatrist experienced in trauma recovery, but always once removed in my professional life. "It's almost impossible to become an addict without a history of trauma, and alcoholism, also." Now, at 77, I've come to the realization that I, too, am a childhood sexual and emotional abuse survivor, and a recovered alcoholic/marijuana/tranquilizer dependent person, in recovery for 11 yrs., this time. My trauma history was never addressed by the rehabs/psychiatrists/addictionists in 1986 when I entered a mandated supervised recovery program and F/U, only to relapse after 13 yrs. sober, when I became the Medical Dir. of the trauma program through which I met Bessel. Ironic? 12-step groups and sponsors have given me the protection and care I have sought my whole life. Best wishes to all! Stress R us
SUMMARY: Almost impossible to become addict without childhood trauma - ways you detoxify body are with yogas taichi getting back in touch with and calming body changing breathing and posture way your body holds itself - when you experience trauma what you experience after that and how you experience the world changes. -detoxify body and you will feel more alive
I worked in the alternative care field for years, including having my own business. Detoxifying my body did NOTHING for my complex PTSD. Before you make these types of comments, please learn ab the condition, because comments like this are not helpful to people that suffer from it.
@@saathoff1220 Perhaps you are misunderstanding what he means by "detoxify." He's not meaning with a concoction of natural therapies or liquid cleanses or the like, he is referring to detoxifying it from the trauma we hold within our body...he mentioned yoga as a releasing method of detoxifying. Perhaps read his book...this guy is a CPTSD therapist who has a specialty treating trauma victims. He KNOWS about the condition.
@@Quiche543 hmmm, ok. I understand. But not sure why 23 years of yoga practice didn't release mine, I had to stop because my muscles have exercise intolerance. Maybe restorative yoga would help. Also I have his book.
I found significant help & partial healing coming to a Catholic Chapel where Jesus Heart dwells in the tabernacle.....so do many thousands of people also... Thanks Dr. for your work & vocation Praise the Lord.
I got the book, The Body Keeps Score, about three years ago. I didn't get very far before I was so triggered, I had a visceral reaction to what I was reading, went into a tailspin, I'm crying just remembering how wrecked I was. I still have the book...I'm just afraid to pick it up.
Oh sorry to hear that... If you would consider trying flower remedy for trauma and what ever emotional issue you are experiencing,you will get a good support! Find a Bach flower therapist. Look one up nearby. I promise you will come far with healing your mind. It works... Bless you,from a flower therapist. School medicine is not always the answer..☘️
Yes, when I discoverd Yoga, I was able to calm myself, to regulate my emotions. It changed a lot in a positive way. 1980 -1982 I made yoga on my own, only with a book, after I saw Karen Zebroff on TV. It changed my life.
I did yoga for 80 hours a week for 3 months and I was happier than before I think because I wasnt alone but still really nervous en exhausted i have to say...after i was depressed for a long time and still am..not doing any yoga anymore :(
In therapy for many months..so my question is what are you defining as trauma!? There is so much that’s awful that has and is happening to our children that I would like a resource for this question! thank you for your honesty..you have courage to speak about what people treat as “unspeakable” and the brilliance to go accompany it.
I find Gabor Maté very helpful in understanding and defining childhood trauma. You can find a lot of his talks on youtube. His books are also great. Hope that helps.
Trauma is an event that overwhelms one's nervous system. Chronic trauma is a situation in which this overwhelm cannot be escaped, thus adaptations are biological, structural, and effects personality, especially during formation.
@@mickbowe4252 I have been having EMDR with a psychologist. It has been incredible and very effective. I have been having it for PTSD which is related to suffering a brain injury. I thought I would never get free of the overwhelming emotions that I was living in every day. The EMDR has changed that completely. I will just say though, (and any good EMDR practitioner will go over this with you,) it can bring up other stuff not directly related to the target memories that you are working on. In my particular case, I have discovered that I have Complex PTSD from childhood experiences. It has been very positive but tough as well. If you do go for it, you will find that there is a lot of assessment and preparation, but this is really vital. Also, EMDR is very tiring and that can last for a couple of days after a session as the brain keeps processing stuff between sessions. I do hope you find the right thing for you. I wish you all the best. If you want to ask me anything else, please do. 🙂
Don't stop there Phaedrus87. You can change your internal world to be happy too, just as you changed it to make friends with your nightmares. Try Dr Dawson Church's wonderful book "Bliss Brain: The Science of Remodelling Your Brain". Sending you much love, and hoping for a wonderful life for you. You can do it.
Interesting. Mindy body techniques like Yoga did ZERO for my developmental trauma. Talk therapy did a lot though (wouldn´t say it is healed). I needed and still need a lot of it however. It is ongoing.
If you are in the United States and can get to Las Vegas, I recommend seeing Glenn Hall (Create Health Nevada). He is a master of his craft and you will leave with a new body.
I dont believe that every trauma is treatable and every emotional condition is reversible. What if with some life experience people can not be happy anymore? Some emotional wounds will never heal. I honestly think that nothing helps but the love of people, stable environment and good health.
The will heal but will always be apart of you. You must ry and see he life you deserve to live filled with love. You are not your trauma and you didnt deserve it.
Crappy Childhood Fairy Utube channel She untangled my thoughts, feelings, and beliefs in less than one hour. Im 58 and spent my entire adult life reaching for professional help. This lady was the FIRST POSITIVE help I've found. Please look her up and you too will find hope for healing, validation, understanding, and most of all... TOOLS THAT REALLY WORK, IN THE MOMENT AS WELL AS TOOLS FOR A BETTER TOMORROW. I have only spent 5 weeks listening to her and I have improved more than 37 years begging dozens of 'professionals'
Thanks I guess I just learned from you,which is to realise that I can be free of past pain,separation,loosing pets I loved and not having much in life, still I can separate my self from all these thoughts or else choose to suffer with them with no gain at all
Being mindful of our inner world as much as our outer world is the right path to be on, I mean, who is it looking outside from within !. As for movement, exercise, Swimming is a must to assist healing.
Van der Kolk's book The Body Keeps the Score outlines several treatments for the kind of trauma that has been resistant to other treatments. For example, neurofeedback has been effective for many trauma survivors for whom other approaches have failed.
That probably falls under developmental trauma because that would mean there is a gap of having been nurtured in the environment. That’s why I think when people go to therpay it’s their first expirence to understand being heard and seen so they have modeled. You basically would have to seek out healthy relationships to heal those wounds while ridding the body of negative beliefs tied to interpersonal dynamics.
...and there I go, licking my wounds, doing meditation, keeping the triggers off, herbal teas, deep breathing AND a neighbour comes to shout at me because the leaves of trees in my yard are messing his yard. My whole body shatters, my whole body feels pain. How can I treat my traumatic violent history, when an ass hole, comes from nowhere to dismantle all what I've done?
Wonderful! I will say that I am pretty sure drugs and alcohol are the #2 way that people cope with trauma. #1 is using other people to create relationships and moments/scenarios where the individual feels like a hero/victim/savior...which make the brain/body dump all. kinds of behavioral chemicals, resulting in what I would call 'being high on righteousness'.
I am in therapy for trauma. It is interesting to see the changes when I go to Yoga for sure. However yoga is very soft, and I do not believe it can heal trauma at all by itself. Or maybe in 40 years? I don't have 40 years. And besides, you need a yoga teacher that teaches real yoga, not the fitness version. Meaning, some breath work, bringing awareness to many areas of tension and postural issues (which often are symptomatic of trauma). A teacher who teaches from the heart. The value of Yoga imho is precisely that it's very soft, so it's good for everybody. Whether you have anxiety, depression or significant trauma... you can safely do yoga. Which definitely can not be said about bioenergetic exercises, as well as certain herbs like Bupleurum or Cyperus (that act on the liver / solar plexus area). These made healing more difficult for me, releasing rage and anger to a point I was going backwards instead of healing.
Have you ever tried 'healings' with things like plant spirits? These are sacred herbs that have been used for thousands of years. What they do is simply lift the veil. A good integration with the experience is essential!
Actually the research shows, the healing happens spontaneously with or without therapy while being fully committed to yoga or some other mindful body practice. The science is amazing on this! Remember; What you believe is what you experience! Good luck and good energy to you!
I think that it depends on the trauma experienced. If the trauma is relational then repairing relational health is important, if that can happen in a yoga class then a yoga class can help heal that. If secrecy was part of the trauma then it might be important to tell those secrets somehow somewhere. I think everything depends. It might be possible to heal using only yoga, but other things can help a lot too. E.g if a loved one has been murdered then having the murderer found and jailed might make things less worse in a way that yoga can't. It might help with justice. Yoga might help in a way that jail/justice can't.
Constantly being in a stress state to the point where a person's body releases the stress hormone cortisol can cause a trauma survivor to gain weight as well. And this is only one example. Body size does not not always correlate with certain foods.
@@byannettebrown Adults who experienced childhood trauma often don’t sleep well or get enough sleep. This also activates cortisol release and causes weight gain.
You are absolutely wrong!! After 23 years of yoga, long before it became so popular, I was in so much pain from trauma trapped in my body I could no longer even DO yoga, became legally disabled because no one connected the dots, became nearly bedridden... please don't make statements like this. Also my daughter has taught yoga for 18 years and tried to help me with a custom program, to no avail. Jesus, people..
@@saathoff1220 maybe you are not ready to release it or on a subconscious level you don't want to release it? I realized for myself that I got a pay-off for being sick. I deep down wanted to be taken care of and I didn't want to be alone so being sick, sort of fills the bill. I realized, I never felt or was taken care of as a child and I was abandoned in every way. It was hard to look at this, but also freeing. My health is better than it was however, I still have some issues but usually I can look at how I am taking care of myself and find the answers I need. I hope you feel better. I hope that you care for yourself like any other wounded being. I hope you love yourself more than you ever thought possible. Love and blessings ❤
trying to focus on the video and it's so hard. I just can't. too many thoughts and feelings in me. I've fallen in a trap again. falling for yet again: another unavailable person. dear God, why do I do this to myself? I'm old now and I've never ever had love. never ever have I been in a real romantic relationship... the pain of this is so horrific: it truly rapes my soul.
And also being shamed by others or stranger like comedians or haters. This 'others' can also be from church preachers, leaders or followers. There is a small number who are genuine and willing to analy the situation. Some friends can say things that will deteriorate your condition like , 'Well, it is between you n God'. Especially for those who do not want to be dragged into your problem and having to find solutions for you. Some are too busy to bother, some others will put the blame entirely on the affects and vulnerable ones.
if one looks closely - just look at people doing their thing, whatever it is, almost all of them are not present. we are all on our way to somewhere, to feel good, to tread the known re-assuring path and think/hope that that is good enough, but we all know it isn't and pretend it is. it might be socialy acceptable and not seen as trauma, but the simple fact of 'hanging in here' is rather problematic (it doesn't even need to be dramatic).
reading all these comments of struggle and limited successes with healing : we have to understand that fundamentally we are not the body - mind , otherwise all therapies are symptomatic , trying to heal the symptom wich is the body mind ; the deeper meaning why trauma occurs is that it is your own real self playing out a drama to discover itself true the veil of the imaginary self ; the pain is the resistance to give up the story thinking it is real .
My British mother was born during WWII. Talk about traumatized and she didn't even experience the Holocaust firsthand. That whole generation was terribly traumatized for one reason or another.
‘Trauma is lived out in heartache and gut wrenching experience..feel sensations of dread and helplessness, disgust and horror, IN your body. In response to that you try to numb out your body: the most common way is drugs and alcohol. So the co morbidity between trauma and drugs and alcohol is gigantic: research shows that it’s almost impossible to become a drug addict without having a prior history of childhood trauma. Drug addiction and alcohol as ways that people desperately try to manage unbearable sensations Asia reacquaint yourself with your body helps you to calm your body down. Dealing with your body is REAL therapy
I have severe severe trauma from the day I was and I never had drug or alcohol addiction Why? Because my fear of getting addicted..my fear of taking a pill.. fear …fear..fear.. trauma fear..
@ No, I don’t need to do anything….if you don’t understand that’s okay and you can study trauma more until it makes sense or not, because you’re the only one that has control over your own mind and beliefs.
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"This is not a popular subject, just like traumatized people themselves are not popular people... because they remind us about how irrational society is". He really is an incredible speaker and writer
Also, people don't want to look at their own traumas.
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Yes, it’s easier to blame the victim, than to work on yourself! 🙏
Sometimes the trauma of how society treats you feels far more traumatizing than the trauma itself. Unfortunately it is not possible to educate each person so they see how you feel. It’s real sad.
@J A I can totally relate, that's why most trauma survivors tend to keep a lot within to avoid being judged by society which will re-traumatize them
"A lot of people still think that truama is something that's happened to you is a story about the past. but that story about the past is a trauma, your brain gets changed and you see the world differently, you see and experience things differently from other human beings"
I couldn't agree more with this statement. It's so frustrating when people assume that we're choosing to dwell on the past, when in reality, our brains have been altered by trauma. It's not about refusing to let go, it's about our brains being wired to respond to the world in a way that's driven by survival instincts, rather than rational thought. We're not stuck in the past, we're stuck with a brain that's constantly trying to protect us from perceived threats. It's not about 'moving on", "getting over it" it's about finding ways to rewire our brains and reclaim our lives.
What's even more heartbreaking is that often, it's the people closest to us who fail to understand this.
Vous avez complètement raison.
Merci de lire vos mots.
🙏🏼✨✌🏼
Trauma gets "DISCOVERED" and "FORGOTTEN". I couldn't agree more. Mine gets forgotten like a file folder in a corporate office building in the 1980's. I've had a lot of difficulty around accepting that trauma has changed my brain and body. I've done a lot to numb my pain throughout my life.
This year, I began incorporating Yin Yoga into my life. It's a style stretches and targets both the deep connective tissues between the muscles, and the fascia throughout the body. Every time that I do it, I physically feel emotions being released from my body. Oftentimes, I feel so vulnerable afterward that I don't know what to do with myself.
Ultimately, this has been a healing year for me and I have to thank Bessel van der Kolk for that.
I'm going check into yin yoga...I did mostly hatha yoga. I have exercise intolerance in my arms and shoulders. Do you think I can do yin yoga?
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You know since i was a kid i just had to stretch and hold, i have no formal training in yoga at all still to this day, i just listen to it because i swear my body begged for it, like a dog wants it belly scratched every fibre in my body begged to be stretched, Ive done it my whole life, it has worked for me quite well now meditation, nope too hyper but I’ve always enjoyed long walks in nature so good for the soul
Thank you mate for you kind words.. I only recently found about this guy, and your short story resonated with me.. if you have a dog or family who have a dog lover - crazy friend, my world trying to help animals who are broken to avoid actually fixing me..
the numbing you mention can sadly relate to..
Thanks for your words 🇦🇺🦘✌️🐾🤠🐶🌄🦮
@@Australiantourforyourdog I can relate. It’s interesting that we can feel the pain and sadness of cruelty towards animals and therefore want to help them. And we can feel the anger towards their perpetrators. I believe by feeling (vicariously) for these animals we still do some repressed feeling releasing of our own.
Why Dr. Van Der Kolk has not been given a Noble Prize says more about the prize than him. I just hope he knows how many lives he has changed, how many hearts he has touched and begun healing...there are simply no words to express gratitude and love for him.
Amen 🌿
second that .. x1000000000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Agree!
We said I agree🕊🙏
Absolutely. His work changed my life and I am sure that of many other people.
I am a survivor of trauma. You are the first person that I have heard say that Yoga works for PTSD.. Let me dust off my mat and start again. Thank you!!
Don't bother, 23 years and I continued to get worse
good luck!!
@@me_rio_sola I meant it as a compliment! I know meditation works. I know aligning your body is common sense. I have been trying to get out of trauma.. A GOOD point!! Again thank YOU!
@@saathoff1220 This is an old comment but yes yoga definitely helps if you have the right intentions in mind. If you’re just stretching to stretch, then the only thing that you will feel is more flexible lol. However if you use visualization of loving kindness for your own body while doing yoga, or others things that get you to move your body, it helps you feel more in touch with yourself. That’s what works for me. A lot of healing is just having the right intention and mindset when approaching these sorts of things
@@doreenmitchell7596 it does work for 75% of people, ;-)
You become a survivalist after trauma.
I could literally feel my brain modifying itself to cope with the symptoms.
ive had that experience :) i was in psychosis and trying to explain it. made me look all the more off the unrelateable
@@roxanecarbery1759 Well said, I have been in that exact situation as well.
More than I care to admit.
Yes! Always on the ready...
Could? You got better?
@@bradenjlloyd you probably could have, but you can't but you only think you're better when in fact your worse and the better you think your getting the worse your getting so it's better to feel worse than feel better
I heard an amazing interview - Krista Tippett interviewing Bessel van der Kolk. One thing he explained was the REASON why doing body movement (and this would include dance - not just yoga - maybe many things like Tai Chi, Chi Gong maybe even some sports) could heal trauma. I think a lot of people dismiss this idea as being "new agey," hippiesh, etc. No. He explains the research that shows how trauma changes the brain, how different parts of the brain become disconnected. In order to heal it's necessary, he says, to reconnect and reintegrate them. Body movement is what does this. I think he mentioned reconnecting the amygdala (where we process fear and threats) and the frontal cortex. He talked about his work with veterans and how for years, the VA refused to take him seriously. I personally believe that dance is an incredibly powerful tool for healing psychic trauma and goes virtually unused in our society as a healing therapy while we dish out drugs like there's no tomorrow.
thank you so much
do you happen to have a link for the interview?
Thanks
Thinking that what you believe in is closest to the truth
We are all infants In understanding the human mind
I have no joy in my life so dancing will Not Work for me
After my husband died I had a dance compulsion… never got into drugs or alcohol but I would go out to live shows and dance like a dervish. Always felt like I was a little selfish for insisting on all those nights out, but now I realize it was an essential component of how I survived those years
Psychiatric Drugs Destroyed my life and the psychiatrist I went to traumatized me more , the bullshit that exists in the field of mental health is INSANE .
my favorite movie is Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind and it took me over a decade to realize why that movie hit me so deep and made such an impact in my life.... while I felt sad for the characters who wanted to erase their minds, I subconsciously also wanted to erase mine and felt envy of medical technology that didn't exist. It's so hard to live in a world where you want to forget your pain, but also society doesn't want to hear about your pain and just wants to hide you away and pretend you don't exist.
Don’t let them be another reinforcing event that keeps you from emerging into who you can truly be. Look to the positive with all your might!
Oh wow. This really resonated with me. It's also my favorite movie. Your mind can forget, but does it really... Something is imprinted on your psyche.
Yesss I remember always saying I wish they had something that could help me erase all the pain that I’ve been feeling.
Same here...
This may our may not work for you... but I loved Julia Ross' book "The Mood Cure" on this subject.
It's explaining how different amino acids help balance our thoughts, moods, and emotions.
I've found intense relief when I tried some of the things she suggests in the book.
Like 5-Htp, which is a precursor of serotonin.
(Try finding a good reliable brand, and don't take too much, when you're first trying it.)
When I'm tortured by flashbacks of repetitive thoughts and resulting feelings, taking this supplement stopps these thoughts and emotions within 15 minutes. It's basically brain chemistry.
I love Van der Kolk's body approach, but sometimes immediate intervention is needed/helpful.
Each flashback or tortured moment is one to many.
I love how people are educating themselves on this topic these days, and hope this will one day soon be common knowledge for all
Yes! Pharmaceuticals should definitely be considered “alternative” therapies, and bodywork considered “real” therapies.
Medication is okay but too many doctors are just pushing pills and that is it. That isn’t sufficient treatment to holistically look at healing. I completely agree!
Just saw this... I get body work done every month or 2 for about 2 years now.... how do ppl explain body work. My person is very blessed.
DBT should be widely available. Training practitioners is not lucrative enough. Big pharma is all that matters.
There were some misconceptions about healing that I had to let go of in order to heal further, one of them was that I had to conjure up old anger and "release" it. But "old anger" is what's called "resentment" and I had to learn how to let go of that.
Whatever you do more of will impact who you are- that's what I believe now at least, so I try to do little things every day to improve my everyday life and it actually works!
Healing is a journey that only ends when we die, there is no end goal when we are "finished" but there are little victories along the way where we might notice how far we've actually come compared to a few years ago.
wise words
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Yes!!!! Little victories - no end but continued work. It is loving yourself in a nutshell fir us.
Well said
Trauma lives in the whole mind body, not out in the world. With few regulated people available to offer compassionate empathy to help one regulate, somatic release tools are the way through. Yoga, TRE (trauma release exercises), breathwork, sound healing (drumming, tuning forks), myofascial release, energy tapping all combined have been my life's restoration practice.
Dance🌟
Danse musique sport lecture écriture painting drawing....🙏
Recovered? Fully healed?
Do not forget dance as meditative! 5RHYTHMS and Open Floor.
wait....drumming is sound healing?
Trauma gets discovered and forgotten again and again 2:28
Trauma sufferers (and society) want to forget 3:12
Difficulty of talking about trauma 3:40
Trauma changes the brain 4:18
Trauma lives in your body 5:15
Numbing your body 5:56
Western solution vs alternative therapy 6:33
'Trauma is lived out in heartbreak and gut-wrenching experiences' 100%
By not wanting to cope with your traumatic experiences society isn't aware of the golden opportunity they miss of learning, remidiating, changing, growing and evolving. There is gold in opening up to trauma. 💪🏻⭐️🌸
Bessel's book 'The body keeps score' is utterly fascinating and extremely insightful/helpful. I have the utmost professional respect for Besel and find him a most empathic human spirit. I would love to see more videos of him sharing his perceptive insights... thank you very much indeed
I just read it. It's brilliant.
I bought Bessel's book yesterday..stayed up all night reading.
Wow…the last sentence about yoga being more effective is something I know for myself, but hearing it from an expert just reinforces my intuition and I can’t thank you enough! 🙏🏼
Wow! 'Drugs are the alternative medicine'. I'm sending this to my GP who has maintained for 21 years that 'some people' need to 'stay' on medication. My instincts have always been right. I am committed to one day becoming medication free 💪💪💪
I hope you’re doing better now
@@madfun13 I'm not yet there my friend due to other health issues but I am committed to being free from medication. Thanks for asking. Wishing you a very happy Christmas!
I was told by my GP that I had to stay on Thyroid medication for life. After much research I decided to try to heal my thyroid, it took me 2 and a half years, now I'm medication free and plan to stay so for life.
Research epigenetics and neuroplasticity, Roger! The doctors to look out for are Dr. Caroline Leaf, Dr. Bruce Lipton and Dr. Joe Dispenza. They discuss the possibility of the human mind healing the body. Good luck! 🤍✨
@@iantheellison4635 don’t forget Dr. Daniel Amen!
It would be a gift to sit, sip coffee and chat with Dr. Van der kolk; Brilliant, lovely man.
I miss myself. I'l write my story, colorful yet, dark. Perhaps like a good painting.
I realized my saving grace is intelligence, love of books, sense of humor and creativity; these keep me alive. I've been "Carrying Mountains".
Love it!
Trauma has really made me an expert at survival. I literally have had to utilize so many coping mechanisms to get through. It's liberating to give my trauma a name and tell others that it follows me around. It has been so healing to be able to do that.
@Sweeting beautifully said. Who was it that said the past isn't dead; it isn't even past??? That says it all for me. Unspeakable trauma. I cope and wish I could forget. I'm only okay now, which is a million times better than I was before, but it never goes away. God bless all of us 🙏😘
It's not an easy read but I recommend it to any survivor. Its helped me to understand the memory loss, confusion, isolation, and other things.
Turtleproof what is it called?
memory loss, confusion, isolation, and many other things...I'm so glad I'm not alone. I was very afraid of my symptoms for a long time
@@at5286 The body keeps the score by Bessel Van Der Kolk
Definitely agree it's not an easy read. But so worth it
I am a trauma survivor. It set me up for getting raped twice. However, I am seeing my life as a triumphant piece of art. It comes out in my writing.
Care to impart some wisdom? We all could use a little more confidence.
Can you please share what you did to heal? thank ypu.
As far as any abuse goes first do not accept any guilt or responsibility. Let the Lord Jesus heal you. Ask Him to help you understand why there are so many sociopaths and psychopaths in the world. You just so happened to be in the path of evil. But you are more than conquerers in Christ. Journal your feelings then put that away for a couple of days and read it as if someone other than you wrote it. Start being grateful for Gods blessings. You are Gods child and you don’t mess with Gods kids. God has made you perfect. Do NOT let your circumstance define your beauty. Because that is what you are. Gos gives you beauty for ashes. He states in His word that “ No weapon formed against you will prosper”. Finally see yourself forgiving your rapist. For this is for you and not for them. Ask the Lord to open your heart to forgiveness and mean it. Even if you have to say it out loud 1000 times. Take some bold steps. Make a new friend that is trust worthy and kind. Meet them at church. Go to church and ask the pastor for counseling for in the abundance of counseling there is much wisdom. I pray that God gives you the desires of your heart. Healing is in the book of proverbs. Read, absorb, commit much to memory. It will transform you.
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Wow. I’m so stinkin grateful I came across the teachings of Dr Bessel van der Kolk. And what an amazing human, being able to come thru the trauma of the second world war AND gather the information and knowledge we need for humanity to evolve.
Me too! He is an amazing human. I just ordered his book.
I'm so happy science catches up with what "alternative healers" like myself have practiced. It's great to see it all coming together now and the biological context is fascinating. Thank you all so much for the great work.
Bravo to you for choosing a healing profession outside the convention, that you knew was effective, in spite of the skepticism from outsiders and from the mainstream. I am so glad the tides are turning in acceptance of adjunct and alternative and complementary therapies!!!
wrr
Lol just steal and claim
a good girl I never aspired to be until I was found anyway. I still use speed just as a maintenance stimulator. I don't get high I just maintain. I had so many nvoluntary lock downs for suicide attempts then I finally did thirteen months in prison for DUI. I can't pay to get a therapist here to help me put all the damage I did in the right order. I must outlive Jessica my beautiful disabled daughter so I bought a guitar SG400 Epiphone instead of the classical I used to play so long ago I began fingerstyle electric lessons, that door was open and it is a better plan than psychedelics! Hey thats what the devil is selling only I did that in the 70's no didn't find God and night terrors etc continued. I am desperate to heal and play guitar and enjoy Jessie as long as God gives her time with me and learn to use a sewing machine and continue my green living and food growing and add off-grid energy plus the rain barrel I plan to order next month. Que sera sera.
It's no mystery that I developed Cancer of the Gut. This is a really GREAT glimpse into the mind of a Trauma Victim. For me, the Breathing is starting to work..that alone, took 4 years. I would fight it in my mind. I was so angry and hurt of that early family betrayal that became the norm, that I couldn't even take a DEEP.breath. That's how "Locked Down" I was..I have to remain mindful.that I'm damaged in ways no one can see, and I prefer to be ready to remind myself that my reaction might be a little excessive, so it's important NOT to react so quickly, because words cannot be taken back. I PREFER to think things over while I breathe properly, and say over and over, "This will Pass. It's only a feeling."
It takes a long, long time to "not react", for people like myself. I grew up in a household in which everyone was fighting. They were screaming, but no one was listening. I learned to duck my mother's angry slaps, if someone was going to be punished it was always me, who got it.
Old trauma can be shame and fear not only anger and resentment.
For me only fear and anger
I think they all come together, it's a package deal. I feel like when one comes to the surface and you work on it then the another bubbles to the top to be worked on.
And guilt
This is so interesting to me. I came to have PTSD following a brain injury. Double whammy! EMDR has been helping me.
Hello Carolyn
How are you doing?
The way Dr. Trenkle speaks, really made me smile while listening to this serious topic. That's good ;)
Thank you for the Interview.
So correct: society dosent want to remember Trauma , individuals don’t want to remember trauma because it’s to painful, and it’s just over all not a very popular topic
oh my God! Yes!!! How on earth can we talk to people about this?
It’s also people’s concept of the ego that makes it hard to deal with this I see to
People who have suffered from trauma need to come together as a group and talk about all this and help each other. I'm one of the victims of childhood trauma. I have seen your playlists. Seems like you are one too. Also you are on point with your other comment about yoga. Yoga and meditation are only powerful spiritual practices which can transform our lives.
Yes, Yes, and Yes.
As a person whose family was both sent to concentration camps and some of whose family escaped to America. As a child I saw pictures of our dead ancestors thrown like garbage in piles in trucks in Abba Eden’s book “My People” . It was a difficult thing to come to terms with. I felt sadness, anger horror and even proud of their courage. It strengthened my fortitude somehow but there is always some residual sadness. Later I met WW2 hero’s who I met as a nurse and I was honored to listen to their 1st hand accounts of Japanese POW camps and one was a member of platoon dropped to Normandy during D day. He told me only 1/9 paratroopers survived before they hit the ground. Somehow he survived but they each lived with PTSD to some degree or another. It’s one thing to read accounts, entirely another to look into the eyes of men who saw things they’ll never forget .
what a hero.
Tristan Hurley He is no hero, he is an ego maniac... just got fired for bullying employees...
@@1LaOriental You are dangerously close to libel, and I encourage you to consider what you are saying.
What's considered alternative therapy is actually an essential therapy. So true, Yoga and TRE exercises etc would be considered hippyish where I am from. Medication,drink, drugs, rambling to a therapist and general moaning are what's considered everyday norms.
I need to start packing my bags.
I can recommend a great book regarding trauma and addiction, called In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts, by Dr. Gabor Mate
Thanks. I just ordered it on Audible - I love this app because when I am restless I can't read, but I can close my eyes and listen.
I'll second that Teemu - it would be perfect if doctors Mate and Kolk would team up what a dynamic duo that would be :-
Yes, Gabor Mate ( When the body says NO) and dr Prof. Franz Rupperts many books about trauma, fear and love.
Great book.
also look at the work of stephen porges and the role of the vagus nerve. it's why yoga would be more beneficial than any other therapy. it explains how trauma exerts itself in an ongoing way in your body.
It’s almost impossible to go on to become a drug or alchohol addict without a history of childhood trauma!
I believe it has been said literally.
there are many "outlets" so to speak to handle "trauma" - "drama" - "abuse" and more: we have CHOICES...hence, no real excuses for becoming an abuser to others or our ownselves. Spirituality: the journey within and some prof help does work together with leading a healthy lifestyle.
@@milagiganticurchod6138 you obviously know NOTHING about trauma.
@@milagiganticurchod6138 Incorrect. It seems to me that you're coping with the existence of an abuser in your life, if I may assume. Please do not spread clear misinformation like this, it's very irresponsible. Thanks :).
Dr Gabor Mate also makes this point.
It IS a full ré éducation of one self. For me it IS like changing so deeply my way of being that i became an other person because trauma is making a person an other thing that it was meant to be.
Sadly, Bessel, who I met in Michigan in 1997, has not apprised himself of the trauma recovery that occurs in 12-step meetings, including the emphasis on what Carl Jung called a transformative "spiritual experience", most often as a result of the unconsciously perceived "protection and care" of the 12-step meetings. I'm a retired psychiatrist experienced in trauma recovery, but always once removed in my professional life. "It's almost impossible to become an addict without a history of trauma, and alcoholism, also." Now, at 77, I've come to the realization that I, too, am a childhood sexual and emotional abuse survivor, and a recovered alcoholic/marijuana/tranquilizer dependent person, in recovery for 11 yrs., this time. My trauma history was never addressed by the rehabs/psychiatrists/addictionists in 1986 when I entered a mandated supervised recovery program and F/U, only to relapse after 13 yrs. sober, when I became the Medical Dir. of the trauma program through which I met Bessel. Ironic? 12-step groups and sponsors have given me the protection and care I have sought my whole life. Best wishes to all! Stress R us
SUMMARY:
Almost impossible to become addict without childhood trauma
- ways you detoxify body are with yogas taichi getting back in touch with and calming body changing breathing and posture way your body holds itself
- when you experience trauma what you experience after that and how you experience the world changes.
-detoxify body and you will feel more alive
Thanks
I worked in the alternative care field for years, including having my own business. Detoxifying my body did NOTHING for my complex PTSD. Before you make these types of comments, please learn ab the condition, because comments like this are not helpful to people that suffer from it.
@@saathoff1220 Perhaps you are misunderstanding what he means by "detoxify." He's not meaning with a concoction of natural therapies or liquid cleanses or the like, he is referring to detoxifying it from the trauma we hold within our body...he mentioned yoga as a releasing method of detoxifying. Perhaps read his book...this guy is a CPTSD therapist who has a specialty treating trauma victims. He KNOWS about the condition.
Donna Saathoff did anything help your cptsd? And as someone said below I’m not talking about some juice cleanse or something
@@Quiche543 hmmm, ok. I understand. But not sure why 23 years of yoga practice didn't release mine, I had to stop because my muscles have exercise intolerance. Maybe restorative yoga would help. Also I have his book.
I found significant help & partial healing coming to a Catholic Chapel
where Jesus Heart dwells in the tabernacle.....so do many thousands of people also...
Thanks Dr. for your work & vocation
Praise the Lord.
Bedankt, uw boek heeft mij veel duidelijk gemaakt, heb nou meer helderheid, emdr heeft mij geholpen, maar ik ben er nog niet
This is short but important ..he's really good too!
I got the book, The Body Keeps Score, about three years ago. I didn't get very far before I was so triggered, I had a visceral reaction to what I was reading, went into a tailspin, I'm crying just remembering how wrecked I was. I still have the book...I'm just afraid to pick it up.
Oh sorry to hear that...
If you would consider trying flower remedy for trauma and what ever emotional issue you are experiencing,you will get a good support!
Find a Bach flower therapist. Look one up nearby. I promise you will come far with healing your mind. It works...
Bless you,from a flower therapist. School medicine is not always the answer..☘️
I ❤ that! Real honesty, thankyou!
Thank you so much for talking about this
Dr. van der Kolk is a truth teller.
Bless Bessel. 💙 Experience of unspeakable cruelty.
Yes, when I discoverd Yoga, I was able to calm myself, to regulate my emotions. It changed a lot in a positive way. 1980 -1982 I made yoga on my own, only with a book, after I saw Karen Zebroff on TV. It changed my life.
I did yoga for 80 hours a week for 3 months and I was happier than before I think because I wasnt alone but still really nervous en exhausted i have to say...after i was depressed for a long time and still am..not doing any yoga anymore :(
Don't need to be all or nothing about it. Do 1 hour a day, every day!
80 hours a week??
@@joeschmo1516 yes it was a 900 hours course during 3 months😄 I was very rigorous back then🙈
Vielen Dank!
In therapy for many months..so my question is what are you defining as trauma!? There is so much that’s awful that has and is happening to our children that I would like a resource for this question! thank you for your honesty..you have courage to speak about what people treat as “unspeakable” and the brilliance to go accompany it.
I find Gabor Maté very helpful in understanding and defining childhood trauma. You can find a lot of his talks on youtube. His books are also great. Hope that helps.
Trauma is an event that overwhelms one's nervous system. Chronic trauma is a situation in which this overwhelm cannot be escaped, thus adaptations are biological, structural, and effects personality, especially during formation.
EMDR therapy is also helpful for PTSD.
@Marten Dekker My experience of EMDR has been amazingly positive and it has changed my life for the better
@@epr97 I have had great success with EMDR.
EMDR has changed my life for the better. Amazingly powerful.
EMDR is talked much about in The Body Keeps the Score. I want to try it.
@@mickbowe4252 I have been having EMDR with a psychologist. It has been incredible and very effective. I have been having it for PTSD which is related to suffering a brain injury. I thought I would never get free of the overwhelming emotions that I was living in every day. The EMDR has changed that completely. I will just say though, (and any good EMDR practitioner will go over this with you,) it can bring up other stuff not directly related to the target memories that you are working on. In my particular case, I have discovered that I have Complex PTSD from childhood experiences. It has been very positive but tough as well. If you do go for it, you will find that there is a lot of assessment and preparation, but this is really vital. Also, EMDR is very tiring and that can last for a couple of days after a session as the brain keeps processing stuff between sessions.
I do hope you find the right thing for you. I wish you all the best. If you want to ask me anything else, please do. 🙂
I just accept it. I have made friends with my nightmares and am as miserable as sin. Every day, I find a reason to continue.
We love you ❤️✨💔
Don't stop there Phaedrus87. You can change your internal world to be happy too, just as you changed it to make friends with your nightmares. Try Dr Dawson Church's wonderful book "Bliss Brain: The Science of Remodelling Your Brain". Sending you much love, and hoping for a wonderful life for you. You can do it.
What kind of pain? People do love you you know, you got this …
@Jeric White Yes you can stop there. But would you really want to when there are so many wonderful ways to continue the journey?
Read The Body Keeps the Score if you haven’t already. Essential reading for parents, teachers, humans
Amazing interview! Thanks so much for sharing it!
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Interesting. Mindy body techniques like Yoga did ZERO for my developmental trauma. Talk therapy did a lot though (wouldn´t say it is healed). I needed and still need a lot of it however. It is ongoing.
If you are in the United States and can get to Las Vegas, I recommend seeing Glenn Hall (Create Health Nevada). He is a master of his craft and you will leave with a new body.
So helpful.
I dont believe that every trauma is treatable and every emotional condition is reversible. What if with some life experience people can not be happy anymore? Some emotional wounds will never heal. I honestly think that nothing helps but the love of people, stable environment and good health.
The will heal but will always be apart of you. You must ry and see he life you deserve to live filled with love. You are not your trauma and you didnt deserve it.
Crappy Childhood Fairy
Utube channel
She untangled my thoughts, feelings, and beliefs in less than one hour. Im 58 and spent my entire adult life reaching for professional help. This lady was the FIRST POSITIVE help I've found. Please look her up and you too will find hope for healing, validation, understanding, and most of all...
TOOLS THAT REALLY WORK, IN THE MOMENT AS WELL AS TOOLS FOR A BETTER TOMORROW. I have only spent 5 weeks listening to her and I have improved more than 37 years begging dozens of 'professionals'
Your comment is confusing
Thanks I guess I just learned from you,which is to realise that I can be free of past pain,separation,loosing pets I loved and not having much in life, still I can separate my self from all these thoughts or else choose to suffer with them with no gain at all
You have to find a way living with that condition...healing work is a life long task
Dealing with your body is a real therapy. :)
I like to re watch some of these videos, to see if i still feel.the same way..
amongst other things I am loving Bessels tie - looks Indigenous australian
Being mindful of our inner world as much as our outer world is the right path to be on, I mean, who is it looking outside from within !. As for movement, exercise, Swimming is a must to assist healing.
How to detoxify oneself from trauma …. Such a challenge. Awareness is a first step to recovery and calm our body down
Where can I watch the full video please? This is really good.
ived tried everything its to deep in me and worst of all my other siblings think im making it up 😐
For me psychedelics opened the gate , finally feeling the emotions moving.
JOSE CANAL which ones
Van der Kolk's book The Body Keeps the Score outlines several treatments for the kind of trauma that has been resistant to other treatments. For example, neurofeedback has been effective for many trauma survivors for whom other approaches have failed.
Go get trauma based therapy for goodness sake
What about victims of chronic childhood bullying and the horrible scars left into adulthood..? This does not address that.
If you can get a hold of his book it is on RUclips too
@@ThePossumone I have it. It states nothing of chronic childhood bullying. He seems to dismiss this...not included in PTSD...what??!!!
Maybe the book CPTSD from Surviving to Thriving by Pete Walker would help you
That probably falls under developmental trauma because that would mean there is a gap of having been nurtured in the environment. That’s why I think when people go to therpay it’s their first expirence to understand being heard and seen so they have modeled. You basically would have to seek out healthy relationships to heal those wounds while ridding the body of negative beliefs tied to interpersonal dynamics.
This is such wonderful information!
Hello Jean
How are you doing?
Would you consider captioning this, please?
It is...
Lisa, it’s auto-transcribed. Not captioned. It needs editing and punctuation
Omg this made me cry
Yoga 🧘🏻♀️ breathing techniques excercise mindfulness meditation and having compassion for one self is important too
Great job!
Somehow that line from a U2 song describes an element of the CPTSD healing experience:
running to stand still
I hate Bono
...and there I go, licking my wounds, doing meditation, keeping the triggers off, herbal teas, deep breathing AND a neighbour comes to shout at me because the leaves of trees in my yard are messing his yard. My whole body shatters, my whole body feels pain.
How can I treat my traumatic violent history, when an ass hole, comes from nowhere to dismantle all what I've done?
Brilliant man.
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One thing that never gets mentioned is healthy diet...so important for health and longevity, especially when stressed
Wonderful! I will say that I am pretty sure drugs and alcohol are the #2 way that people cope with trauma. #1 is using other people to create relationships and moments/scenarios where the individual feels like a hero/victim/savior...which make the brain/body dump all. kinds of behavioral chemicals, resulting in what I would call 'being high on righteousness'.
Hvala za savet. Joga je zaista dobra ideja.
Bessel ❤️ thank you.
intelligent and most informative - thank you for posting this. Best ;) M
Hello Marianne
How are you doing today?
I must meet you dr Bessel
Smart man
Helpful info
Can someone link the study? What kind of Yoga are we talking about?
Wow! Fascinating!
Thank you.
I am in therapy for trauma. It is interesting to see the changes when I go to Yoga for sure. However yoga is very soft, and I do not believe it can heal trauma at all by itself. Or maybe in 40 years? I don't have 40 years. And besides, you need a yoga teacher that teaches real yoga, not the fitness version. Meaning, some breath work, bringing awareness to many areas of tension and postural issues (which often are symptomatic of trauma). A teacher who teaches from the heart.
The value of Yoga imho is precisely that it's very soft, so it's good for everybody. Whether you have anxiety, depression or significant trauma... you can safely do yoga. Which definitely can not be said about bioenergetic exercises, as well as certain herbs like Bupleurum or Cyperus (that act on the liver / solar plexus area). These made healing more difficult for me, releasing rage and anger to a point I was going backwards instead of healing.
Have you ever tried 'healings' with things like plant spirits? These are sacred herbs that have been used for thousands of years. What they do is simply lift the veil. A good integration with the experience is essential!
I definitely agree with you. But I think there are ways to make it more immediate.
Actually the research shows, the healing happens spontaneously with or without therapy while being fully committed to yoga or some other mindful body practice. The science is amazing on this! Remember; What you believe is what you experience! Good luck and good energy to you!
I think that it depends on the trauma experienced. If the trauma is relational then repairing relational health is important, if that can happen in a yoga class then a yoga class can help heal that. If secrecy was part of the trauma then it might be important to tell those secrets somehow somewhere. I think everything depends. It might be possible to heal using only yoga, but other things can help a lot too. E.g if a loved one has been murdered then having the murderer found and jailed might make things less worse in a way that yoga can't. It might help with justice. Yoga might help in a way that jail/justice can't.
I feel the same way about yoga. Have you tried classical stretch or trauma releasing exercises?
things like Yoga and stuff they just calm down the Syndrom of Trauma but NOT the cause what sits in the nerve sytem
thank you
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“Just like traumatized people are not popular people...”
Hello
Also sugar and flour (refined and processed foods) is numbing. Look at the size/shapes of us these days... obesity pandemic
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Constantly being in a stress state to the point where a person's body releases the stress hormone cortisol can cause a trauma survivor to gain weight as well. And this is only one example. Body size does not not always correlate with certain foods.
Great point!
@@byannettebrown Adults who experienced childhood trauma often don’t sleep well or get enough sleep. This also activates cortisol release and causes weight gain.
@@georginabastien49 I agree; that's why I also wrote, "
Yoga is more effective to treat ptsd than any medicine they had ever studied!
What kind of type yoga? :)
You are absolutely wrong!! After 23 years of yoga, long before it became so popular, I was in so much pain from trauma trapped in my body I could no longer even DO yoga, became legally disabled because no one connected the dots, became nearly bedridden... please don't make statements like this. Also my daughter has taught yoga for 18 years and tried to help me with a custom program, to no avail. Jesus, people..
@@saathoff1220 if it didnt help you . It doesnt mean it doenst help others.
@@qaislatif2000 you are absolutely right, it benefits most people who practice it, it's wonderful and I wish I could still practice it.
@@saathoff1220 maybe you are not ready to release it or on a subconscious level you don't want to release it? I realized for myself that I got a pay-off for being sick. I deep down wanted to be taken care of and I didn't want to be alone so being sick, sort of fills the bill.
I realized, I never felt or was taken care of as a child and I was abandoned in every way. It was hard to look at this, but also freeing. My health is better than it was however, I still have some issues but usually I can look at how I am taking care of myself and find the answers I need. I hope you feel better. I hope that you care for yourself like any other wounded being. I hope you love yourself more than you ever thought possible. Love and blessings ❤
Great talk but I found the music/volume transition at the end of this video incredibly startling.
trying to focus on the video
and it's so hard.
I just can't. too many thoughts
and feelings in me.
I've fallen in a trap again.
falling for yet again: another
unavailable person.
dear God, why do I do this to myself?
I'm old now and I've never ever had love.
never ever have I been in a real romantic relationship...
the pain of this is so horrific:
it truly rapes my soul.
The first thing to do 3:38
Different methods 5:05
And also being shamed by others or stranger like comedians or haters. This 'others' can also be from church preachers, leaders or followers. There is a small number who are genuine and willing to analy the situation. Some friends can say things that will deteriorate your condition like , 'Well, it is between you n God'. Especially for those who do not want to be dragged into your problem and having to find solutions for you. Some are too busy to bother, some others will put the blame entirely on the affects and vulnerable ones.
Can anyone tldw (like is there an actual method or is it just theory again?)
if one looks closely - just look at people doing their thing, whatever it is, almost all of them are not present. we are all on our way to somewhere, to feel good, to tread the known re-assuring path and think/hope that that is good enough, but we all know it isn't and pretend it is. it might be socialy acceptable and not seen as trauma, but the simple fact of 'hanging in here' is rather problematic (it doesn't even need to be dramatic).
Yoga, yoga, yoga to de-toxify.
Not if the trauma is causing muscle armoring, yoga makes it worse
@@saathoff1220 just do fast walking ,jump around ,dance , skip ,tap ,you can do it in your own home
reading all these comments of struggle and limited successes with healing : we have to understand that fundamentally we are not the body - mind , otherwise all therapies are symptomatic , trying to heal the symptom wich is the body mind ; the deeper meaning why trauma occurs is that it is your own real self playing out a drama to discover itself true the veil of the imaginary self ; the pain is the resistance to give up the story thinking it is real .
My British mother was born during WWII. Talk about traumatized and she didn't even experience the Holocaust firsthand. That whole generation was terribly traumatized for one reason or another.
‘Trauma is lived out in heartache and gut wrenching experience..feel sensations of dread and helplessness, disgust and horror, IN your body. In response to that you try to numb out your body: the most common way is drugs and alcohol. So the co morbidity between trauma and drugs and alcohol is gigantic: research shows that it’s almost impossible to become a drug addict without having a prior history of childhood trauma.
Drug addiction and alcohol as ways that people desperately try to manage unbearable sensations
Asia reacquaint yourself with your body helps you to calm your body down. Dealing with your body is REAL therapy
ruclips.net/video/ys6TCO_olOc/видео.html Gabor Maté speaks on this
I have that disgust feeling deep in my stomach
@@Србомбоница86 what do you mean?
“research shows that it's almost impossible to be a drug addict without having prior childhood trauma.” Bessel Van Der Kolk
I have severe severe trauma from the day I was and I never had drug or alcohol addiction
Why? Because my fear of getting addicted..my fear of taking a pill.. fear …fear..fear.. trauma fear..
@@mariemonn8912 you need to expound on that because it makes no sense.
@ No, I don’t need to do anything….if you don’t understand that’s okay and you can study trauma more until it makes sense or not, because you’re the only one that has control over your own mind and beliefs.
Excellent!
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Wow, he nails it. 3:46 --->
4:20 ----->