i got mine done in 2022 when i was 18. swelling sucks no matter what but im glad i got it done and would go through it again. recovery time isn’t that bad on this one
@@user_DgddRggdy did it two days ago. The operation is done during general anaesthesia, so you won’t feel any pain. Now I have my upper jaw swelled up but I don’t feel any pain during recovery (which is strange).
The side cuts are horrible, stops the maxilla from being anchored to the cheeks and expanding the cheeks as well. You will get a wider mouth with the same narrow cheeks, don't get those cuts
@@jesper9622 In most adults you still will need cuts. You can do a modified SARPE though with KLS martin RPE without LeFort 1. MSE is too weak for proper men to break the pterygomaxillary sutures.
@@shuikai272 MSE does break the sutures around the sphenoid bone. As long as MSE expands the palate and nasal cavity, which it does, then i will get an MSE
So I have the expander on since June and I'm 21 the doctor said he going to do that type of surgery on me. I'm confuse do I have to get the expander remove so he can do the surgery on me? Because I have feeling he cant do the surgery on me with the expander in the way. Oh got the expander on to do a few turns with that key they given me.
@@Belen8888 No the expander really help with my crossbite on my right side on back teeth my Orthodontist made me turn the expander every week for two days in January. Next month in march 15 I'm getting my top braces on exciting thank god I don't have to go through the surgery. Are u getting this type of surgery done on you?
@@divipowaful oh ok turns out i didnt need the surgery i had to turn it a month more like they told me to turn the expander two times a week and that pretty fix my crossbite on my right side now i got top braces on got them on march 15 im getting the expander off this june im probably getting rubber bands the same day i get the expander off lol good luck on surgery
MSE isn’t the miracle device it’s made out to be and is associated with a plethora of complications. I had a failed one myself, 36F, but lucky for it to have failed vs left with severe asymmetries, tooth tipping, etc.
@relog, a guy in Norway ("JKK") went to Germany to have MSE 4 times due to issues splitting, complications, and failure to achieve enough expansion. He eventually opted for "EASE" (Endoscopically Assisted Surgical Expansion) using a Modified MSE as a Distractor. Watch his videos, he also said he had 3 premolars out for Braces when he was 15, and that it caused him issues.
You just need vertical the horizontal are stupid they stop maxilla from widening rest of face giving you a wide mouth with narrow checks looks terrible aesthetically
Ever heard of MSE/MARPE Expansion? Palatal Expanders that use TAD screws in the palate, often assisted by "Corticopuncture", though even that may not be 100% successful in adults. Requiring Surgical Assisted (E.g DOME/SAMARPE) There's also a procedure called "EASE" ("Endoscopically Assisted Surgical Expansion") which is meant to be less invasive than Traditional SARPE, and apparently allows for some cheekbone widening?) A guy in Norway named "JKK" got it in Germany, after failing 4 times to split/get enough Expansion with MSE Alone. So he got EASE (but using a modified MSE as a Distractor, rather than a "TPD")
@@hazexo1131 too late g I turn 26 soon and already had the surgery 😂 face didn’t change as much though I can see a minor difference. Then again, there’s a big gap between my front two teeth so idk what my face will look like after the gap is closed.
@@momsspaghetti8093 yea that’s kind of the problem with SARPE, it stops you from getting the aesthetic benefits so likely only ur teeth will change, not face. but if u don’t care bout all that stuff hope it went well nd u can breathe now bro
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17 just got it done, recovery is tough but you can do this
How is it like? Got mine on the 19th
Does the jaw not move around ? Cut it and then no screws etc...
For how much time we need to keep this device in mouth ?
You didnt need it just had to start mewing
@@InsaneRG4172has that worked for you?
i got mine done in 2022 when i was 18. swelling sucks no matter what but im glad i got it done and would go through it again. recovery time isn’t that bad on this one
Was the operation painful?
@@user_DgddRggdy did it two days ago. The operation is done during general anaesthesia, so you won’t feel any pain. Now I have my upper jaw swelled up but I don’t feel any pain during recovery (which is strange).
@@blook1413 This is good because I was afraid of pain...thank you
This is the sMe case I have thanks
Looks painful
It is and also too expansive
IT IS....
it is :(
@@Cytroit wish u luck bro i just had it 4 days ago how u doing rn?
@@isaacnostylist i got it removed yesterday
Even removing it was painfull
Shouldn't be there blood like after tooth removal after such manipulations?
Surprisingly not much at all. I see more blood when I get my teeth cleaned at the hygienist lol
how much does this cost in dollars
I did it in Syria it cost me 1500$ for the surgeon and 300$ for the hospital
@@Khalil-meDUDE HOW EXPENSIVE IS THATTT
@@hermanbengkulu77777 it cost me 3500$..
If you don't correct your tongue position the relaps will happen.
Yea thats why you do myofunctional therapy.
Why would it happen in adults?
It is really break your bone? OMG so scary
yep. i had this surgury 7 months ago. the pain was unbearable. but the results where great.
@@chloepudsey5469does it give u wide cheekboned and facial foreward growth, and make your face attractive?
The side cuts are horrible, stops the maxilla from being anchored to the cheeks and expanding the cheeks as well. You will get a wider mouth with the same narrow cheeks, don't get those cuts
Who told you to that?and if you have a wide tongue then surely a wide maxilla would be perfect to fit your tongue in
@@OnePiece-os3pe The side cuts are not needed to expand the maxilla, MSE expander is able to do that.
@@jesper9622 In most adults you still will need cuts. You can do a modified SARPE though with KLS martin RPE without LeFort 1. MSE is too weak for proper men to break the pterygomaxillary sutures.
@@shuikai272 MSE does break the sutures around the sphenoid bone. As long as MSE expands the palate and nasal cavity, which it does, then i will get an MSE
@@jesper9622 ildoes it widen the nose?
no
So it purely work during childhood, right??
I am 28 can i go for it?
yes any age
You get this if you are past 18 since the 2 bones at the of the months fuse.
So I have the expander on since June and I'm 21 the doctor said he going to do that type of surgery on me. I'm confuse do I have to get the expander remove so he can do the surgery on me? Because I have feeling he cant do the surgery on me with the expander in the way. Oh got the expander on to do a few turns with that key they given me.
did you end up having the surgery done?
@@Belen8888 No the expander really help with my crossbite on my right side on back teeth my Orthodontist made me turn the expander every week for two days in January. Next month in march 15 I'm getting my top braces on exciting thank god I don't have to go through the surgery. Are u getting this type of surgery done on you?
@@marianalover69 can I contact your orthodontist?
@@marianalover69 Im getting the surgery done in about a week and from what I know you have to have the expander on in order to do the surgery
@@divipowaful oh ok turns out i didnt need the surgery i had to turn it a month more like they told me to turn the expander two times a week and that pretty fix my crossbite on my right side now i got top braces on got them on march 15 im getting the expander off this june im probably getting rubber bands the same day i get the expander off lol good luck on surgery
Thats what i have and my orthodontist dont use expander
Does this work on adults the age of 25.
Do MSE expander with cortical puntures
MSE isn’t the miracle device it’s made out to be and is associated with a plethora of complications. I had a failed one myself, 36F, but lucky for it to have failed vs left with severe asymmetries, tooth tipping, etc.
@@joannem8066 would you say SAPRE is better
@relog, a guy in Norway ("JKK") went to Germany to have MSE 4 times due to issues splitting, complications, and failure to achieve enough expansion.
He eventually opted for "EASE" (Endoscopically Assisted Surgical Expansion) using a Modified MSE as a Distractor.
Watch his videos, he also said he had 3 premolars out for Braces when he was 15, and that it caused him issues.
@@luke14946 can’t find his channel what is it called?
good video
You just need vertical the horizontal are stupid they stop maxilla from widening rest of face giving you a wide mouth with narrow checks looks terrible aesthetically
Well I'm 24 and that's the only option I have lmao since my maxilla isn't gonna grow anymore
Ever heard of MSE/MARPE Expansion? Palatal Expanders that use TAD screws in the palate, often assisted by "Corticopuncture", though even that may not be 100% successful in adults. Requiring Surgical Assisted (E.g DOME/SAMARPE)
There's also a procedure called "EASE" ("Endoscopically Assisted Surgical Expansion") which is meant to be less invasive than Traditional SARPE, and apparently allows for some cheekbone widening?) A guy in Norway named "JKK" got it in Germany, after failing 4 times to split/get enough Expansion with MSE Alone. So he got EASE (but using a modified MSE as a Distractor, rather than a "TPD")
@@momsspaghetti8093 that’s kind of an ignorant way to look at it. 24 is very young and ur facial bones change throughout your whole life.
@@hazexo1131 too late g I turn 26 soon and already had the surgery 😂 face didn’t change as much though I can see a minor difference. Then again, there’s a big gap between my front two teeth so idk what my face will look like after the gap is closed.
@@momsspaghetti8093 yea that’s kind of the problem with SARPE, it stops you from getting the aesthetic benefits so likely only ur teeth will change, not face. but if u don’t care bout all that stuff hope it went well nd u can breathe now bro