And let’s not forget how they threw in a darkskin girl for Aaron to date to prove he’s not colorist only for him to cheat on her with a light skin. He’s so annoying I don’t like him at all.
Rich kids who have no responsibilities to boot. And the type that are so rich who still find stuff to complain about because literally every episode of this show is someone complaining about something...
I also find it odd how Ana Torres is a Republican, yet makes no mention of President Trump throughout the entire series, never mentions Mexican families being separated and put in cages at the U.S.-Mexico border, and never mentions January 6th. "Black-ish" was always up on current events, yet "Grown-ish" feels like it lives in its own safe bubble, even though it's supposed to be in the same universe as its spin-off show.
That’s actually how our generation is so tbh it could be done on purpose like there so self involved they dont even realize there not involved in anything
Cages? You might want to talk to Obama about that. Also, if people stopped letting in illegal immigrates families wouldn’t be separated at the border. How the leftist media has lied about January 6 constantly. The unfair treatment of Trump.
Another thing I hate about this show is how they portray Gen Z. Teenagers/young adults are not *THAT* obsessed with their phones. Yes we do have social media dependency problems but this show just takes it to an extreme. They’re literally small influencers with over 20,000 followers and every episode they’re always fussing about whether or not they’re trending, if they’re hashtags, etc. Like who on earth has time for this?
FR I WANTED TO SAY THIS AND ITS SO CRINGE 😭 we’re not extreme phone addicts who say slang 24/7 and braindead on our devices irl.. i just know a middle aged man produced this show.
@@vaginaspecialist Why did you say yall don't? Very real question. Btw you would be helping me understand your generation better which in turn helps me understand my family members better. And no, I've never seen the generation do any of that mentioned 🤦🏾♀️ but I do think you guys move quite fast. It's like I want to say short attention spans but that's not even true. Could you please answer this?
@@MindfulMatters734 realistically the only people who have time to spend on their phones all day are kids. In college you have many issues like taking care of schoolwork taking care of your relationships and financial issues. The behaviors of kids being on their phones so much is that when we have nothing to do or are bored we use are phone. Plus a lot of our relationships take place through your phone like making time to call people or replying to texts for us things like that is basic manners and decency.
This is a fantastic breakdown of not only "Grown-ish" as a show but how the marketing machine works. These shows are not a reflection of culture but structured to pander to their target audience.
The way “the twins are the ghetto ones of the group” and people praise it but if they were “dark skins” they wouldn’t be getting hype…… Aaron is very colorist but pro black, make it make sense…. They clown vivec when he’s the only one that’s not problematic…..They treat nomi so wrong sometimes, Luca & Doug alright….. Zoe you explained everything that I don’t like about her character.
They tried so hard to make Zoey and Aaron the Dwayne and Whitley of our generation. Lmao they not even close to that! And unlike Zaaron, Dwitley are actually likable characters.
I think the Dwayne and Whitley couple for gen z is Spencer & Olivia from All American .let’s face it those two along with majority of the other characters on that show we’re well better written and had development despite it being a high school / sports drama
I agree the unrealistic living situation and also the colorism in the cast has to go, and the slang is a mess too because it seems like they're trying to be relatable to poc and utterly failing.
Yo help me out, are there really people who talk like they do in grown-ish? Because their slag is so intense that I sometimes needed to pause and rewind and then use context clues to figure out what they mean to say. I've never seen any other show with slang this intense or people who use slang this intensely. And it's not just the words, they use so many references and metaphors with slang that I can't believe how quickly their minds can process and produce such slang filled referances. Is grown-ish just embellishing the slang or do some people actually talk they way they do in this show?
@@Obi-Wan_Kenobi the cast of grownish are mostly lightskin poc who unfortunately grew up in nice environments or good situations, they don't use aave a lot in their personal lives and they're only using it to sound relatable. Yes people do use slang like this, or at least similar, but the writers for this show wrote it wrong because they never used it themselves, so it sounds like a mockery or poor imitation.
What hurt me is how zoey left luka for not even an important reason, but still luka still try to be there for her and she still turn him down, when did luka become like that. And still gave her his job at season 4 and he quite, wtf
Your breakdown of Grownish was spot on! I was in Junior High/Highschool when A Different World ended. A Different World was a great show, very hard to duplicate. That being said, you are correct you never see them in class on Grownish. As someone who graduated from College and Graduate school, a long time ago. LOL. Most college students are broke, they were not wearing designer clothes.
The only complaint I had was the point about their names not being "black enough" 15:06 . *DC Young Fly's name in the show 'Rafael'is way 'blacker than his government name John Whitfield* 💀💀💀
That’s true, most college students don’t usually wear designer clothes or even flesh out in style. They wear lazy day everyday clothes from hoodies, sweatpants, jeans, sneakers or anything that’s loose. Grown is his romanticizing the idea of college being relationship oriented or social issues, without understanding the real idea of college. It’s nothing about relationships or anything, people go through actual struggles : from financial aid, classes, homework, stress, housing cost, activities that are college oriented, international students and yet, they put up only romantic storylines about characters but they never focus on actual college things.
I am an author from Kansas and the part at 7:15 stood out to me. I felt annoyed that the media refuses to show black women of dark hue on the screen longer than 10 seconds. It inspired me to write a book with a lead dark skinned college student. It's out now.
I didnt care for Zoey on blackish so I didnt care to watch the spinoff.....Ryan should of been apart of the cast from the jump.....there's no way I could stay friends with someone who would leave to die-Hell, majority of the friends I met in college I barely talk to now.
Although I don’t fully agree w/your assessment, you make some valid points. I remember watching this interview with Trevor Jackson (Aaron) and he was w/two writers who were White women. Where are the Black writers? This show suffers from a lack of authentic Black writers and lazy writing.
Tbh I thought grownish was gonna be a hella good college show for me in the near future HELL NAH my mom laughed bc this isn't anywhere near true all viewpoints 100%
Just a couple days ago I tried the show back up and goddamn Zoey just is not a likeable lead. I was on that episode where the group debates about what a genius is, and I clicked off so fast when Zoey tried to label the word "genuis" as problematic or mysognistic just because Luca didn't call her a genuis Honestly any other Johnson kid would've been a better lead. Zoey could've worked but she never grows
Not everybody gets character development or has the capability to become a better person. I don’t think y’all realize how unrealistic for everyone to just become a saint over time. Some people got to college sucky and leave suckier.
I hate this show so much man. Nearly everyone in the cast is horrible and so petty, I really don't feel any sympathy for the problems they have especially when they are self inflicted. And it tries to talk about "real issue" but the dialogue and characters are so fake that I can never take them seriously. Like they wear the freshest outfits and lives in the dopest dorms I'ver ever seen in my life. So when they have an episode about money problems, I'm calling CAP because there is no way they can dress like that everyday and have to worry about money, it honestly feels patronizing. And the idea of this being a collage experience is so fake. I don't even see these people go to class in the most recent seasons. You can't tell me they talked realistic social issues with this show when they don't even go to school any more or do homework. And as you said, this show has ZERO consequences. You don't just drop out of school, get a job, leave that job and roll right back into school easy peasy. At the very least, Zoey would have to catch up on a semester of work but you already know the show is going to ignore that and just pick up where Zoey left off. They can't just have characters study and earn their degrees properly, not when there's so much drama in their social lives we need to waste our time on. This show is just drama, after drama with no consequences. Because you can't waste time with consequences when you need to move on the the next big scandal! Can't waste time on character development either because that would actually reduce drama if they character became better people! Listen, this video is a masterpiece because it's calling out a show that needs to be called on. I have no idea how a show this bad is popular. Like have you see the Grown-ish youtube video comments? They talk about the show like it's actually good social commentary. But now I know, this show appeals to twitter where they don't actually care about realism or logic, they just care around trendy one-liners and faux activism. The people who like this show are living inside a bubble, none of them can see how bad it is because they are too busy complementing each other. But producers keep seeing praise on twitter and that things them an inflated sense of the show's quality (kind of like that socio-narcissism you were talking about). But you, you can see the truth and have the guts to actually talk about it. Thanks for saying what I've been thinking for the last 3 years. Seriously, fantastic job with this video.
Even I would pick euphoria over grownish. Because that show understands the core concept of what young adults go through, fleshing out the actual struggles and learning the characters arc in a deeper context.
Honey 🍯 You broke that shit down into pieces. I loved the honest review . The show is amazing from my opinion But I was unaware of these social issues that the show has. Thanks for opening my eyes . Ps I love your intro (the song!) I NEED IT 😭 . YOUR EDITING IS LITTERALY ON POINT🎉😭
Zoey’s outfits are too polished. Like I get she’s a rich preppy fashionista but still. She dresses just too nice for class. You can make her outfits fashionable or unique while still having them be appropriate for school. And her hair changes up too much.
The show in itself gave a very fictional unrealistic pov about college life. As someone who did their undergrad from 2015-2018, none of my friends and our groups ever behaved like these characters on the show portrayed.
The only complaint I had was the point about their names not being "black enough" 15:06 . *DC Young Fly's name in the show 'Rafael'is way 'blacker than his government name John Whitfield* 💀💀💀 and he was _born_ in Atlanta.
Oh don’t forget in season two when Zoe need a job she thought she was going to make herself a job and when she actually got a real job she threw it away because they didn’t give her a “good enough position” (bitch threw away folding clothes for money) i’m not to forget I don’t know what season but she cries about everything that doesn’t go her way(oh yeah she also threw away her sister (Diane) she was getting ready for her first date(main show) and when trying to call her sister (Zoe) she does not answer the phone because she was hanging out with her friend)
I’ll say this I was a film major and had a design fundamental, color theory, and a photoshop class with fashion majors, In Art school it’s pretty common lol
Zoey is a bad actor but when SHE ACTS GANGSTER she fits welll meaning she acts like that in real life which is why its natural for her seriously go look at her scenes when she’s actually gangster trynna check people and her eyes look way more relax and comfortable.
Your breakdown of this is intirely to serious. The show is a sitcom/comedy, not a drama, and while you have some points from you opinion mind, as far as which characters you like & how they act, which some I do and don't agree on. Things like where they live and how they pay, there parents obviously. It's been established they come from money, or have scholarships. They go to Cal U. Every sitcom has a group of charactets being friends for years, sometimes decades. Why it keep getting renewed, because it's on freeform, a small network, and i almost guarantee it's 1 of the most watched shows on that small network.
It’s been 2 years but I HAD to reply to this because what do you mean Freeform is a small network? Do you not know that Freeform is ABCFamily? they only changed the name so that it would appeal to younger generations. It’s one of the largest tv networks and is owned by Disney. 😂😂😂
It's really not. It's characters are parodies of black people, and was created with a philosophy that we're all the same so pandering to our stereotypes would result in success for their franchise. Also the writing is so bad, the characters are flat and the story "arcs" are pointless. It's objectively bad.
I agree that zoey is incredibly annoying and she is not the only one. It’s also very unrealistic that everyone on the show looks like a super model and wears the most expensive brands except for Vivek’s “engineering friends” and the Jewish guys in the corner (which is kinda anti Semitic). Still I enjoy watching the show because it’s interesting for me to see how other people see our generation. Also, it is undeniable that the fashion on the show is legendary.
I discovered how much I despised Zoey after the episode when she found out about Aaron and Ana. Cuz like I know Ana was in the wrong but Zoey was also in the wrong. She barely gave Ana a chance to explain and jumped to conclusions then stopped being friends with her all while OBVIOUSLY expressing that she still likes Aaron. You should NOT be getting that mad if you have a man already. She's such a red flag
For whatever reason I decided to binge this show over the summer. Something about it was just “off” to me. You put the show into perspective for me. The show is flawed and Zoey being the personification of “pretty privilege” and Aaron being a Hotep are the two biggest takeaways I have. Your analysis is flawless.
They have too many characters and because of that, they aren’t able to go into details with everyone’s life so while the characters are very interesting, we don’t get to know them and see in depth in their life because its so much! They are trying so hard to include everything and it’s so messy
I disagree with the "white" names because black people aren't a monolith, and in my tiny piece of the world, their names are and sound normal. I understand your criticism very well, please don't get me wrong, but it makes clear why I'm having problems with the call for representation and the (un)willingness to accept something that doesn't exactly represents us all but still includes and/or focus on us. Foremost and all, Grown-ish (and Black-ish) is an over-the-top comedy that does bring up serious matters to remind viewers of those topics. They do not really provide a solution, as it shouldn't really have to, since that choice is up to us to discuss with our own family and friends during or after watching the show. Ever since TV became a thing during the time our grandparents and older family members were kids and teens, nearly all TV-shows have followed the same story-telling pattern, so in that light Grown-ish fits right in. Compare it with I Love Lucy or The Golden Girls, and you'll start seeing what I'm trying to say. It doesn't have to be realistic since it's basically only here to entertain us, but this show does represents the time period we're living in right now. It is colorful, expressive, dramatic, funny and "woke AF" and yet so painfully rushed and empty, even meaningless at (too many?) times. You talked about the flaws of Zoey and her socio-narcissism. Well, guess what? That appears to be the norm nowadays, even in our own circle. Hell, even we tend to act that way sometimes, unintentionally for many, intentionally for some. Let's keep it real for a moment or two here. We all like to voice our opinion/truth like a gospel sometimes, genuinely believing that our truth is The Truth for all and it is our God-given duty to teach our followers (aka our friends) The Truth. There is nothing wrong with that, but we have to be more careful and try not to forget that we ALL live and react from our own little bubble of Ego. And sometimes it is also okay to just be quiet because there is also truth in silence. But mostly I agree with the chronic lack of character arcs. As we live our lives ,we learn. You may not always immediately see and feel the changes our mind and soul undergo, but we do learn from experience every single moment of every day. The reason why it seems that some people do not change is because they are afraid to accept that change in themselves out of fear but that is a whole other topic for another day. Yet this is indeed the biggest mistake made with Grown-ish. Zoey isn't showing any sign of growth. The entire show should be called Stationary-ish, or Stale-mate-ish, or Pause-it. You get what I'm saying, lol. They are college students, and I expected to see them learn something mindblowing at least once per month that would expand their views and make them spiritually grow, because of everything that is being taught to them by their professors, friends, and just life itself as they are away from home for the first time, and learning to take care of themselves while on their path to full adulthood. I've learned from an early age on that nitpicking certain things like TV-shows can take away our joy of watching and relaxing, and that is something that we should be careful of. Life is shite as it is and that alone makes it strangely perfect because every day is another opportunity for us to keep doing our best, to learn and to change, and to be our true selves. We all try our best to survive, live, and thrive under these circumstances while also trying to find love and joy while so many others across the globe try to entertain us and make us momentarily forget our own sorrow, sadness, and trouble. And that is the main reason why I don't dislike Grown-ish and other shows and movies: it makes me laugh out loud at times, it makes me roll my eyes, and at the end of the day it has made me forget reality for a few delightful minutes, and that is all to it. It isn't me, it doesn't represent me and the world I'm living it, and that is okay. Be the change you want to see in your own world, and I have to say, you are already doing an excellent job!!! I applaud you and your intelligence, insight, and passion, and I hope you will continue doing this in one form or the other. I am glad, and feeling very honored and blessed to have found your channel today. Thank you again for you insight and for teaching me something from your perspective
@Bree Star VFX I believe it is age-related since I'm 52 yo, come to think of it while reading your post. It clearly shows that our parents were indeed euro-centric and mostly catholic/protestant.
Exactly people act like it's advertised as realistic when it is over the top drama. People say they want realism but they wouldn't watch that show cause it would be boring. People just wanna complain cause this is what I would expect after watching blackish.
This was an excellent breakdown. It was literally the research for me👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾. I never watched this show because I had some preconceived notions about it(some are true and some not). First, I thought the show was about teenagers. I don't like shows like that because I'm a grown ass 30 yo woman, and seeing teenagers in adult situations is fucking weird and makes me uncomfortable. And secondly, I knew that shit was colorist asf.
I see everything you are saying about the show that is so true but I think main characters dont always have to be good, perfect and the people that develop the most..We have seen enough of such shows..We actually dont talk about the people like Zoey who are around us everyday that call themselves friends cause if we are truly honest we have such people in our lives and no one points them out..We always want to just see unrealistic perfect peole on television forgetting that a percentage of our friends are selfish too but we tend to just brush it off until it gets too much to handle...I feel grownish is from a different view point which might not just be so popular but truth be told it is still around us everyday we just turn to ignore.
Is no one gunna talk about Anna and nomi were on Twitter and all they did was spew racist shit? Also how tf is Ana against guys being into/hate on lesbian (which is wrong) and then proceeds to do the same thing and have gay fantasies about her bf being with other guys? If I’m being honest they are worse than Zoey 100% they did so much shit in season one that went under the radar when I first watched it, it’s baffling.
I don't know girl but i think Kenya Barris has to employ you to fix this mess....you broke down every flaw the series has and still repeating the same mistakes. The white names for black people was one of the most annoying things i noticed.....keep up the good work girl
All college students are required to take basic core classes like English, math and science in addition to electives like a language course (French, Spanish, ect.) and computer science for example. It's not lazy writing that students with different majors have the same classes. That's how for-profit colleges work.
I’m here after watching that season 4 finale and all I can say is that this show should’ve got cancelled a longgggg time ago. Like this honestly I think this show is only getting renewed time and time again is bc it’s a spin off to one of the most popular abc shows of all time. Because honestly if this show was just a show that had no correlation to black ish like whatsoever this shit would’ve got cancelled after the second season at the most
I watched all the episodes but I grew weary. I wondered how they could legally drink their first year in college. Too tired...and now All American Homecoming where I was assured that the writers have HBCU experience. I see no evidence of that yet🤷🏾♀️
I love your review. Grown-ish is lazy writing and lazy acting. Joey Johnson was the worst. Yes, Luca was the best with Sky. I started watching the series yesterday and skipped through the trainwreck. By season 2 l was so frustrated by the over written, repetitive and very very very annoying. Breaking the third wall was making the character whinny and l skipped everything time she's over explaining. This series was super basic with flashy clothes. Best couple was Ana and Aaron. Period. Luca and Jillian was next. Jazz and Doug were cool as well. They had better chemistry and stronger relationship. This was the most unrealistic series ever. The night teacher was funny. Vavet foots the bills from drug dealing. This show is draining draining. Junior's snip off seasons, yeah, no, no, NO!
Lol, me being a black guy going through a predominantly white public ivy and seeing grownish has flaws like this. I'm surprised, but this is kinda true.
Honestly I've never seen a group of more horrible Black than thr characters of Grownish. Literally the best character on there who should have had more screen time was Vivek.
TBH i agree with most of what she is saying except the living situation part, reason being is because, zoey at the end of the day is rich she comes from a wealthy backgroung and idk about anna but its clear that zoey, anna, and vivec put in mostly for the house and also they go to cal U so im sure 90% of them kids are rich they in they valley so it adds up to me...
Not to mention , she leaves luca to go BACK to AARON whos been sexing one of her friendz?...yuck....[ I think luca in real life was gay or bi] so zoe was probably uncomfortable with that being her on-set boyfriend considering she had to kiss him:)...just a wild guess....
Not gone lie I did see some stuff like I do in most shows like who she is selfish and everything and she trife ash and slow sometimes but I think that’s kind of the point. And being in LA and it being a modern show they gone be in the best places and everything is gonna be high end like all the shows
Right?? Like people don’t have to make videos about ALL things like if u don’t like it don‘t wacht it ! It’s just a show y’all taking things to serious
Are you really calling a single video "The Grownish Hater Network"? Look, a bad show is a bad show and it's anyone's right to criticize it. Saying "don't watch the show" doesn't actually absolve the show of any of the problems pointed out. You're right about one things though, I hate the show and I ain't the show. Thank God I'm not too, because I would feel terrible about myself if I were as bad as Grown-ish!
I Love The Show Grownish. Do you have anything good to say about the show Grownish. Girl .All I heard you do is be critical. Bye , if the show is so awful just stop watching Grownish. .
This is such a dumb comment. She doesn't have anything good to say about the show, which is why this is a critique. And she actually gave reasons for why the show is bad, reasons which you can't say anything against because all you've got are meaningless clap backs.
On top of all what u said i thought the show was also quite sexist even tho it tried so hard to be woke. Like besides Nomi all female characters are these stereotypical girls obsessed with boys, fashion and doing shit like cyber stalking and explaining to guys "how girls work" and everytime i think "that is absolutly not how girls work... maybe confused 14yo girls high on hormones but def not early 20s woman...". Then they hyperfocus a whole episode on bullshit problems like "oh no i cant use social media much during my internship whatever will i do" and shove a 5min discussion about something actually important in there to seem woke. Zoe especially is very irretating... not only is she an egomaniac she is entitled af which would be fine if she would check herself and grow! But she never does! Like nomi for example when she dumps that super nice bi boy(dave? daven? darren?) because hes bi even tho she herself is by because of stupid double standards, which is shitty, but she regocnises that being bullshit and apologizes for it! She calls herself a hypocrite which she is! thats how you write shitty behavior correctly! For zoe its either everyone elses fault and they need to apologize or she makes a huge deal out of her own mistake and causes so much drama that people take pity on her and be like "its not THAT bad were cool its okay" like she lowkey guilttrips people into forgiving her... disgusting. And i think most of the outfits chosen for especially zoe, but nearly every main cast girl are hideous but thats my subjective opinion.
I actually just finished watching this episode and I agree with damn near everything said. But I do believe the highlight of this show at least for me was jazz and Doug surprisingly. U might night after but I thought there relationship was really beautiful. There litte arc in season 3 kept me invested to finish the series cause I hoped they'd get back together. They had some issues but I don't feel like it's anything that couldn't have been worked out especially with their chemistry. As individual characters doug to me was one the best on the show mostly cause of his comedic relief and personal relatability being a fellow New Yorker. But also cause I feel like him and jazzs relationship was one the only few good/semi accurate potentials if an actual relationship. Compared to others at least . Especially when it comes to happy black couples but unfortunately God knows we can never have a conventional happy black couple on TV. But besides those very few things that I liked as well as the few good things you mentioned the shows a pretty big piece of garbage especially Zoey .
I get a lot of what you’re saying but I also just wanna say the show highlights most of their problems too. I see it more as.. it’s a show lol on a small network. It’s entertainment (a show to put on in the background) for me at least. Also they’re young adults. In college. This is how A LOT of people are at this age. Figuring life out. They’re not grown af and know everything hence why they have these issues and all the other characters point that shit out all the time. The only thing I can 100% agree with is that zoey has had absolutely ZERO growth in the entirety of all the seasons. But that’s the same as Dre is black-ish. EVERY episode centers around his ego & he never gets better no matter how many lessons he learns EVERY episode. EDIT: I didn’t watch the whole video but yea
How has no one noticed that Doug’s full name is “Douglas Fredrick Edward’s”…? That man’s name is literally Fredrick Douglas spelt backwards and his whole character in season 3 was overly-black, and “woke”….? The writers of this his show need never to touch a notepad, or put their ideas to paper EVER AGAIN
They be living in Vivekʼs house but make fun of him daily. I-
Judging him for selling drugs but taking his drug money 😂
Bruh, they play into the immasculation of Asian men trope HARD
Like, its so annoying, they really did him dirty 😢
And let’s not forget how they threw in a darkskin girl for Aaron to date to prove he’s not colorist only for him to cheat on her with a light skin. He’s so annoying I don’t like him at all.
FAX, and with the girl he told her not to worry about, and Zoey is js ughh..
zoey not even lighskin she brownskin
So painful
Grownish is a version of college for rich kids
Rich kids who have no responsibilities to boot. And the type that are so rich who still find stuff to complain about because literally every episode of this show is someone complaining about something...
I also find it odd how Ana Torres is a Republican, yet makes no mention of President Trump throughout the entire series, never mentions Mexican families being separated and put in cages at the U.S.-Mexico border, and never mentions January 6th. "Black-ish" was always up on current events, yet "Grown-ish" feels like it lives in its own safe bubble, even though it's supposed to be in the same universe as its spin-off show.
That’s actually how our generation is so tbh it could be done on purpose like there so self involved they dont even realize there not involved in anything
Cages? You might want to talk to Obama about that. Also, if people stopped letting in illegal immigrates families wouldn’t be separated at the border. How the leftist media has lied about January 6 constantly. The unfair treatment of Trump.
Maybe it’s because she’s Cuban and many Hispanic people don’t see themselves as one group the way many non-Hispanic people see them.
Another thing I hate about this show is how they portray Gen Z. Teenagers/young adults are not *THAT* obsessed with their phones. Yes we do have social media dependency problems but this show just takes it to an extreme. They’re literally small influencers with over 20,000 followers and every episode they’re always fussing about whether or not they’re trending, if they’re hashtags, etc. Like who on earth has time for this?
FR I WANTED TO SAY THIS AND ITS SO CRINGE 😭 we’re not extreme phone addicts who say slang 24/7 and braindead on our devices irl.. i just know a middle aged man produced this show.
Gen z has the time ...
@@NubianQueen100 no we don’t 💀
@@vaginaspecialist Why did you say yall don't? Very real question. Btw you would be helping me understand your generation better which in turn helps me understand my family members better. And no, I've never seen the generation do any of that mentioned 🤦🏾♀️ but I do think you guys move quite fast. It's like I want to say short attention spans but that's not even true. Could you please answer this?
@@MindfulMatters734 realistically the only people who have time to spend on their phones all day are kids. In college you have many issues like taking care of schoolwork taking care of your relationships and financial issues. The behaviors of kids being on their phones so much is that when we have nothing to do or are bored we use are phone. Plus a lot of our relationships take place through your phone like making time to call people or replying to texts for us things like that is basic manners and decency.
This is a fantastic breakdown of not only "Grown-ish" as a show but how the marketing machine works. These shows are not a reflection of culture but structured to pander to their target audience.
especially that scene with that mid eastern dude quoting Malcolm X quotes like dude gtfoh
Zoey got mad at Luca for not telling her when he got back from Paris when she literally did the same thing in later episodes
The way “the twins are the ghetto ones of the group” and people praise it but if they were “dark skins” they wouldn’t be getting hype…… Aaron is very colorist but pro black, make it make sense…. They clown vivec when he’s the only one that’s not problematic…..They treat nomi so wrong sometimes, Luca & Doug alright….. Zoe you explained everything that I don’t like about her character.
Chloe & Halle are black, both of their are black they have just lighter skin but technically they are dark skinned
@@dioniiidlm1787 they more brown skinned than anything
You calling them ghetto is problematic. I never saw them as ghetto. Check your perspective and choice of words.
The twins are dark as heck in what world do you call that light skin..... nigga
I always found Arron’s activism to be unlikable and annoying. And yeah, I also think Grown ish is a mediocre show.
What really breaks my heart is when a show like this keeps on getting renewed and my other favorite tv shows are cancelled ☹️
They tried so hard to make Zoey and Aaron the Dwayne and Whitley of our generation. Lmao they not even close to that! And unlike Zaaron, Dwitley are actually likable characters.
I think the Dwayne and Whitley couple for gen z is Spencer & Olivia from All American .let’s face it those two along with majority of the other characters on that show we’re well better written and had development despite it being a high school / sports drama
@@daltonoakleyjr391 I agree
Whitley was not a likeable character.
@@fsociety7494 at the beginning, she wasn’t. But due to character development because of Denise leaving the show, Whitley became likeable
I agree the unrealistic living situation and also the colorism in the cast has to go, and the slang is a mess too because it seems like they're trying to be relatable to poc and utterly failing.
Yo help me out, are there really people who talk like they do in grown-ish? Because their slag is so intense that I sometimes needed to pause and rewind and then use context clues to figure out what they mean to say. I've never seen any other show with slang this intense or people who use slang this intensely.
And it's not just the words, they use so many references and metaphors with slang that I can't believe how quickly their minds can process and produce such slang filled referances. Is grown-ish just embellishing the slang or do some people actually talk they way they do in this show?
@@Obi-Wan_Kenobi the cast of grownish are mostly lightskin poc who unfortunately grew up in nice environments or good situations, they don't use aave a lot in their personal lives and they're only using it to sound relatable. Yes people do use slang like this, or at least similar, but the writers for this show wrote it wrong because they never used it themselves, so it sounds like a mockery or poor imitation.
@@northway8209 how is if unfortunate for someone to grow up in a good situation
@@londonsublett2251 the cast tries to relate to a life they never lived is my point.
Zoey and Aaron break up and get back together Damn near every episode
What hurt me is how zoey left luka for not even an important reason, but still luka still try to be there for her and she still turn him down, when did luka become like that. And still gave her his job at season 4 and he quite, wtf
Your breakdown of Grownish was spot on! I was in Junior High/Highschool when A Different World ended. A Different World was a great show, very hard to duplicate. That being said, you are correct you never see them in class on Grownish. As someone who graduated from College and Graduate school, a long time ago. LOL. Most college students are broke, they were not wearing designer clothes.
The only complaint I had was the point about their names not being "black enough" 15:06 . *DC Young Fly's name in the show 'Rafael'is way 'blacker than his government name John Whitfield* 💀💀💀
That’s true, most college students don’t usually wear designer clothes or even flesh out in style. They wear lazy day everyday clothes from hoodies, sweatpants, jeans, sneakers or anything that’s loose. Grown is his romanticizing the idea of college being relationship oriented or social issues, without understanding the real idea of college. It’s nothing about relationships or anything, people go through actual struggles : from financial aid, classes, homework, stress, housing cost, activities that are college oriented, international students and yet, they put up only romantic storylines about characters but they never focus on actual college things.
I am an author from Kansas and the part at 7:15 stood out to me. I felt annoyed that the media refuses to show black women of dark hue on the screen longer than 10 seconds. It inspired me to write a book with a lead dark skinned college student. It's out now.
I didnt care for Zoey on blackish so I didnt care to watch the spinoff.....Ryan should of been apart of the cast from the jump.....there's no way I could stay friends with someone who would leave to die-Hell, majority of the friends I met in college I barely talk to now.
Although I don’t fully agree w/your assessment, you make some valid points. I remember watching this interview with Trevor Jackson (Aaron) and he was w/two writers who were White women. Where are the Black writers? This show suffers from a lack of authentic Black writers and lazy writing.
Tbh I thought grownish was gonna be a hella good college show for me in the near future HELL NAH my mom laughed bc this isn't anywhere near true all viewpoints 100%
can we talk about how awful aarons RAT TAIL is 🤮
MAKES ME SICK TO THE STOMACH
I just can't take him seriously 😂😂😂
Just a couple days ago I tried the show back up and goddamn Zoey just is not a likeable lead. I was on that episode where the group debates about what a genius is, and I clicked off so fast when Zoey tried to label the word "genuis" as problematic or mysognistic just because Luca didn't call her a genuis
Honestly any other Johnson kid would've been a better lead. Zoey could've worked but she never grows
Right. They gave up the opportunity of giving the eldest son a spin off for this shit! Like he was actually looking at HBCUs. this show is just bating
I feel like the show would be infinitely better if they chose Diane over zoey.
No character development and it cringes me!!!!!
Not everybody gets character development or has the capability to become a better person. I don’t think y’all realize how unrealistic for everyone to just become a saint over time. Some people got to college sucky and leave suckier.
I hate this show so much man. Nearly everyone in the cast is horrible and so petty, I really don't feel any sympathy for the problems they have especially when they are self inflicted. And it tries to talk about "real issue" but the dialogue and characters are so fake that I can never take them seriously.
Like they wear the freshest outfits and lives in the dopest dorms I'ver ever seen in my life. So when they have an episode about money problems, I'm calling CAP because there is no way they can dress like that everyday and have to worry about money, it honestly feels patronizing.
And the idea of this being a collage experience is so fake. I don't even see these people go to class in the most recent seasons. You can't tell me they talked realistic social issues with this show when they don't even go to school any more or do homework.
And as you said, this show has ZERO consequences. You don't just drop out of school, get a job, leave that job and roll right back into school easy peasy. At the very least, Zoey would have to catch up on a semester of work but you already know the show is going to ignore that and just pick up where Zoey left off. They can't just have characters study and earn their degrees properly, not when there's so much drama in their social lives we need to waste our time on.
This show is just drama, after drama with no consequences. Because you can't waste time with consequences when you need to move on the the next big scandal! Can't waste time on character development either because that would actually reduce drama if they character became better people!
Listen, this video is a masterpiece because it's calling out a show that needs to be called on. I have no idea how a show this bad is popular. Like have you see the Grown-ish youtube video comments? They talk about the show like it's actually good social commentary. But now I know, this show appeals to twitter where they don't actually care about realism or logic, they just care around trendy one-liners and faux activism. The people who like this show are living inside a bubble, none of them can see how bad it is because they are too busy complementing each other. But producers keep seeing praise on twitter and that things them an inflated sense of the show's quality (kind of like that socio-narcissism you were talking about).
But you, you can see the truth and have the guts to actually talk about it. Thanks for saying what I've been thinking for the last 3 years. Seriously, fantastic job with this video.
If you hate it, why do you watch it. That’s so stupid. Oh okay, that’s why….
@@gregorywatkins3350 so he’s not allowed to have an opinion on the show and give it constructive criticism?
@@gregorywatkins3350 how can you know if you hate something if you don’t watch it first? stupid 🙄
Damn. "If pretty privilege was a person..."
Hahahahah zoe is so annoying in this show that it makes me happy when people get mad at her in the show
Even I would pick euphoria over grownish. Because that show understands the core concept of what young adults go through, fleshing out the actual struggles and learning the characters arc in a deeper context.
Honey 🍯
You broke that shit down into pieces.
I loved the honest review
. The show is amazing from my opinion
But I was unaware of these social issues that the show has.
Thanks for opening my eyes
. Ps
I love your intro (the song!)
I NEED IT 😭
. YOUR EDITING IS LITTERALY ON POINT🎉😭
Zoey’s outfits are too polished. Like I get she’s a rich preppy fashionista but still. She dresses just too nice for class. You can make her outfits fashionable or unique while still having them be appropriate for school. And her hair changes up too much.
girl i swear you are so stunning in every video you upload. imma need you to drop that skincare routine 💖
Thanks ! Its in the flesh 🌸
The show in itself gave a very fictional unrealistic pov about college life. As someone who did their undergrad from 2015-2018, none of my friends and our groups ever behaved like these characters on the show portrayed.
The only complaint I had was the point about their names not being "black enough" 15:06 . *DC Young Fly's name in the show 'Rafael'is way 'blacker than his government name John Whitfield* 💀💀💀 and he was _born_ in Atlanta.
Grownish is stupid storyline-wise, but it's fun to watch
Oh don’t forget in season two when Zoe need a job she thought she was going to make herself a job and when she actually got a real job she threw it away because they didn’t give her a “good enough position” (bitch threw away folding clothes for money) i’m not to forget I don’t know what season but she cries about everything that doesn’t go her way(oh yeah she also threw away her sister (Diane) she was getting ready for her first date(main show) and when trying to call her sister (Zoe) she does not answer the phone because she was hanging out with her friend)
I’ll say this I was a film major and had a design fundamental, color theory, and a photoshop class with fashion majors, In Art school it’s pretty common lol
I agree lol Grownish can’t compare to A Different World
Zoey is a bad actor but when SHE ACTS GANGSTER she fits welll meaning she acts like that in real life which is why its natural for her seriously go look at her scenes when she’s actually gangster trynna check people and her eyes look way more relax and comfortable.
Your breakdown of this is intirely to serious. The show is a sitcom/comedy, not a drama, and while you have some points from you opinion mind, as far as which characters you like & how they act, which some I do and don't agree on. Things like where they live and how they pay, there parents obviously. It's been established they come from money, or have scholarships. They go to Cal U. Every sitcom has a group of charactets being friends for years, sometimes decades. Why it keep getting renewed, because it's on freeform, a small network, and i almost guarantee it's 1 of the most watched shows on that small network.
It’s been 2 years but I HAD to reply to this because what do you mean Freeform is a small network? Do you not know that Freeform is ABCFamily? they only changed the name so that it would appeal to younger generations. It’s one of the largest tv networks and is owned by Disney. 😂😂😂
You deadass need to keep at this yet stuff.I fw your content
Ya'll saying trash, the show is just fine
It's really not. It's characters are parodies of black people, and was created with a philosophy that we're all the same so pandering to our stereotypes would result in success for their franchise. Also the writing is so bad, the characters are flat and the story "arcs" are pointless. It's objectively bad.
Guys dont forget the whole show is about college students you can’t expect that much from it except for college kids living they lives
I agree that zoey is incredibly annoying and she is not the only one. It’s also very unrealistic that everyone on the show looks like a super model and wears the most expensive brands except for Vivek’s “engineering friends” and the Jewish guys in the corner (which is kinda anti Semitic). Still I enjoy watching the show because it’s interesting for me to see how other people see our generation. Also, it is undeniable that the fashion on the show is legendary.
I'm sorry sky, Naomi, Rochelle don't look like supermodels to me. But each his own.
It’s funny I came to the same conclusions😂😂 they pushing agendas and failing
I discovered how much I despised Zoey after the episode when she found out about Aaron and Ana. Cuz like I know Ana was in the wrong but Zoey was also in the wrong. She barely gave Ana a chance to explain and jumped to conclusions then stopped being friends with her all while OBVIOUSLY expressing that she still likes Aaron. You should NOT be getting that mad if you have a man already. She's such a red flag
also, i've never watched the show but did you spill the truth and speak facts about it? yes you did and we love it 👏🏼
If college is the way they portray it on the show it’s a fucking nightmare lol.
For whatever reason I decided to binge this show over the summer. Something about it was just “off” to me. You put the show into perspective for me. The show is flawed and Zoey being the personification of “pretty privilege” and Aaron being a Hotep are the two biggest takeaways I have. Your analysis is flawless.
They have too many characters and because of that, they aren’t able to go into details with everyone’s life so while the characters are very interesting, we don’t get to know them and see in depth in their life because its so much! They are trying so hard to include everything and it’s so messy
I disagree with the "white" names because black people aren't a monolith, and in my tiny piece of the world, their names are and sound normal.
I understand your criticism very well, please don't get me wrong, but it makes clear why I'm having problems with the call for representation and the (un)willingness to accept something that doesn't exactly represents us all but still includes and/or focus on us. Foremost and all, Grown-ish (and Black-ish) is an over-the-top comedy that does bring up serious matters to remind viewers of those topics. They do not really provide a solution, as it shouldn't really have to, since that choice is up to us to discuss with our own family and friends during or after watching the show.
Ever since TV became a thing during the time our grandparents and older family members were kids and teens, nearly all TV-shows have followed the same story-telling pattern, so in that light Grown-ish fits right in. Compare it with I Love Lucy or The Golden Girls, and you'll start seeing what I'm trying to say.
It doesn't have to be realistic since it's basically only here to entertain us, but this show does represents the time period we're living in right now. It is colorful, expressive, dramatic, funny and "woke AF" and yet so painfully rushed and empty, even meaningless at (too many?) times.
You talked about the flaws of Zoey and her socio-narcissism. Well, guess what? That appears to be the norm nowadays, even in our own circle. Hell, even we tend to act that way sometimes, unintentionally for many, intentionally for some. Let's keep it real for a moment or two here. We all like to voice our opinion/truth like a gospel sometimes, genuinely believing that our truth is The Truth for all and it is our God-given duty to teach our followers (aka our friends) The Truth. There is nothing wrong with that, but we have to be more careful and try not to forget that we ALL live and react from our own little bubble of Ego. And sometimes it is also okay to just be quiet because there is also truth in silence. But mostly I agree with the chronic lack of character arcs. As we live our lives ,we learn. You may not always immediately see and feel the changes our mind and soul undergo, but we do learn from experience every single moment of every day. The reason why it seems that some people do not change is because they are afraid to accept that change in themselves out of fear but that is a whole other topic for another day.
Yet this is indeed the biggest mistake made with Grown-ish. Zoey isn't showing any sign of growth. The entire show should be called Stationary-ish, or Stale-mate-ish, or Pause-it. You get what I'm saying, lol.
They are college students, and I expected to see them learn something mindblowing at least once per month that would expand their views and make them spiritually grow, because of everything that is being taught to them by their professors, friends, and just life itself as they are away from home for the first time, and learning to take care of themselves while on their path to full adulthood.
I've learned from an early age on that nitpicking certain things like TV-shows can take away our joy of watching and relaxing, and that is something that we should be careful of. Life is shite as it is and that alone makes it strangely perfect because every day is another opportunity for us to keep doing our best, to learn and to change, and to be our true selves. We all try our best to survive, live, and thrive under these circumstances while also trying to find love and joy while so many others across the globe try to entertain us and make us momentarily forget our own sorrow, sadness, and trouble.
And that is the main reason why I don't dislike Grown-ish and other shows and movies: it makes me laugh out loud at times, it makes me roll my eyes, and at the end of the day it has made me forget reality for a few delightful minutes, and that is all to it. It isn't me, it doesn't represent me and the world I'm living it, and that is okay. Be the change you want to see in your own world, and I have to say, you are already doing an excellent job!!! I applaud you and your intelligence, insight, and passion, and I hope you will continue doing this in one form or the other. I am glad, and feeling very honored and blessed to have found your channel today. Thank you again for you insight and for teaching me something from your perspective
Who is going to read all of that 😂😂
I read it all. Well said Mya Felicia. Thanks for a thoughtful and balanced response.
@@andemartin2399 Thank you. I hope that I was able to contribute to a few or just one person.
@Bree Star VFX I believe it is age-related since I'm 52 yo, come to think of it while reading your post. It clearly shows that our parents were indeed euro-centric and mostly catholic/protestant.
Exactly people act like it's advertised as realistic when it is over the top drama. People say they want realism but they wouldn't watch that show cause it would be boring. People just wanna complain cause this is what I would expect after watching blackish.
Doug the best character 😭 szn 3 bro showed emotion 🥲 emotion I can relate to
just finished mixed ish then black ish but it’s not looking good for grown ish idk if i can take zoeys selfishness 💀
LMAOOOO this commentary too real. Loved it !
This was an excellent breakdown. It was literally the research for me👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾. I never watched this show because I had some preconceived notions about it(some are true and some not). First, I thought the show was about teenagers. I don't like shows like that because I'm a grown ass 30 yo woman, and seeing teenagers in adult situations is fucking weird and makes me uncomfortable. And secondly, I knew that shit was colorist asf.
I don't know about you, but at 19-21yrs. old, I was going thru alot of "adult" shit. This show is yame in comparison.
These are some of the reasons why I just stopped watching the show. It just doesn't have the same magic as blackish.
Blackish isn't very good either though....
@@JLDReactions I know but I feel like it's less problematic than Grownish and it doesn't irritate me as much.
😶But I love grown-ish.
Sameeeeee the People here taking it to serious
same 😭😭 it’s just a show
i think chloe and halle carries the show
I love Luca the most
I like the quote that he makes, “You have to become comfortable with being uncomfortable”.
I see everything you are saying about the show that is so true but I think main characters dont always have to be good, perfect and the people that develop the most..We have seen enough of such shows..We actually dont talk about the people like Zoey who are around us everyday that call themselves friends cause if we are truly honest we have such people in our lives and no one points them out..We always want to just see unrealistic perfect peole on television forgetting that a percentage of our friends are selfish too but we tend to just brush it off until it gets too much to handle...I feel grownish is from a different view point which might not just be so popular but truth be told it is still around us everyday we just turn to ignore.
girlie i'm binging every video rn😀☝🏽
i see youuuu
Is no one gunna talk about Anna and nomi were on Twitter and all they did was spew racist shit? Also how tf is Ana against guys being into/hate on lesbian (which is wrong) and then proceeds to do the same thing and have gay fantasies about her bf being with other guys? If I’m being honest they are worse than Zoey 100% they did so much shit in season one that went under the radar when I first watched it, it’s baffling.
I don't know girl but i think Kenya Barris has to employ you to fix this mess....you broke down every flaw the series has and still repeating the same mistakes. The white names for black people was one of the most annoying things i noticed.....keep up the good work girl
You should review the show Black AF on Netflix!! Would love to hear your commentary!🙏🏾
Also Kenya Barris is in the show!!
All college students are required to take basic core classes like English, math and science in addition to electives like a language course (French, Spanish, ect.) and computer science for example. It's not lazy writing that students with different majors have the same classes. That's how for-profit colleges work.
This is such a good breakdown to watch
I’m here after watching that season 4 finale and all I can say is that this show should’ve got cancelled a longgggg time ago. Like this honestly I think this show is only getting renewed time and time again is bc it’s a spin off to one of the most popular abc shows of all time. Because honestly if this show was just a show that had no correlation to black ish like whatsoever this shit would’ve got cancelled after the second season at the most
Thank you for a wonderfully awesome video and I just love your honesty and humor
stay beautiful 💚💜
I watched all the episodes but I grew weary. I wondered how they could legally drink their first year in college. Too tired...and now All American Homecoming where I was assured that the writers have HBCU experience. I see no evidence of that yet🤷🏾♀️
I love your review. Grown-ish is lazy writing and lazy acting. Joey Johnson was the worst. Yes, Luca was the best with Sky. I started watching the series yesterday and skipped through the trainwreck. By season 2 l was so frustrated by the over written, repetitive and very very very annoying. Breaking the third wall was making the character whinny and l skipped everything time she's over explaining. This series was super basic with flashy clothes.
Best couple was Ana and Aaron. Period. Luca and Jillian was next. Jazz and Doug were cool as well. They had better chemistry and stronger relationship.
This was the most unrealistic series ever. The night teacher was funny. Vavet foots the bills from drug dealing. This show is draining draining.
Junior's snip off seasons, yeah, no, no, NO!
Also notice how zoey was never around for any black issue episodes…she was also skipping them to flirt around w/ Luca
Lol, me being a black guy going through a predominantly white public ivy and seeing grownish has flaws like this. I'm surprised, but this is kinda true.
Honestly I've never seen a group of more horrible Black than thr characters of Grownish. Literally the best character on there who should have had more screen time was Vivek.
TBH i agree with most of what she is saying except the living situation part, reason being is because, zoey at the end of the day is rich she comes from a wealthy backgroung and idk about anna but its clear that zoey, anna, and vivec put in mostly for the house and also they go to cal U so im sure 90% of them kids are rich they in they valley so it adds up to me...
Not to mention , she leaves luca to go BACK to AARON whos been sexing one of her friendz?...yuck....[ I think luca in real life was gay or bi] so zoe was probably uncomfortable with that being her on-set boyfriend considering she had to kiss him:)...just a wild guess....
Hate how they did luca characters as a bf.
Most def new sub, I'm getting lovely ti vibes( thoroughly researched and fair analysis).
Season 5 and 6 don’t follow a socio-narcissist!
Not gone lie I did see some stuff like I do in most shows like who she is selfish and everything and she trife ash and slow sometimes but I think that’s kind of the point. And being in LA and it being a modern show they gone be in the best places and everything is gonna be high end like all the shows
Here we go again…….The Grownish Hater Network. If you don’t like the show, please don’t watch it. Y’all hate them cause y’all ain’t them.
Right?? Like people don’t have to make videos about ALL things like if u don’t like it don‘t wacht it ! It’s just a show y’all taking things to serious
Are you really calling a single video "The Grownish Hater Network"? Look, a bad show is a bad show and it's anyone's right to criticize it. Saying "don't watch the show" doesn't actually absolve the show of any of the problems pointed out.
You're right about one things though, I hate the show and I ain't the show. Thank God I'm not too, because I would feel terrible about myself if I were as bad as Grown-ish!
Your videos are too good
I always thought it was a weird show 🤨
I Love The Show Grownish. Do you have anything good to say about the show Grownish. Girl .All I heard you do is be critical. Bye , if the show is so awful just stop watching Grownish. .
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This is such a dumb comment. She doesn't have anything good to say about the show, which is why this is a critique. And she actually gave reasons for why the show is bad, reasons which you can't say anything against because all you've got are meaningless clap backs.
Also Zoey is a hypocrite too
I LOVE THISSSSS
zoey johnson is just black rory gilmore
FR I hated Rory after she got with Jess. HATED her
On top of all what u said i thought the show was also quite sexist even tho it tried so hard to be woke. Like besides Nomi all female characters are these stereotypical girls obsessed with boys, fashion and doing shit like cyber stalking and explaining to guys "how girls work" and everytime i think "that is absolutly not how girls work... maybe confused 14yo girls high on hormones but def not early 20s woman...". Then they hyperfocus a whole episode on bullshit problems like "oh no i cant use social media much during my internship whatever will i do" and shove a 5min discussion about something actually important in there to seem woke. Zoe especially is very irretating... not only is she an egomaniac she is entitled af which would be fine if she would check herself and grow! But she never does! Like nomi for example when she dumps that super nice bi boy(dave? daven? darren?) because hes bi even tho she herself is by because of stupid double standards, which is shitty, but she regocnises that being bullshit and apologizes for it! She calls herself a hypocrite which she is! thats how you write shitty behavior correctly!
For zoe its either everyone elses fault and they need to apologize or she makes a huge deal out of her own mistake and causes so much drama that people take pity on her and be like "its not THAT bad were cool its okay" like she lowkey guilttrips people into forgiving her... disgusting.
And i think most of the outfits chosen for especially zoe, but nearly every main cast girl are hideous but thats my subjective opinion.
Yara is a terrible actress 🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️ This show needs be cancelled ASAP!
how is she a terrible actress just because zoey’s character is bad
Honey I the show Grownish.
DAMN!! That’s was PERFECT!!!
girlll you need more subss
I actually just finished watching this episode and I agree with damn near everything said. But I do believe the highlight of this show at least for me was jazz and Doug surprisingly. U might night after but I thought there relationship was really beautiful. There litte arc in season 3 kept me invested to finish the series cause I hoped they'd get back together. They had some issues but I don't feel like it's anything that couldn't have been worked out especially with their chemistry. As individual characters doug to me was one the best on the show mostly cause of his comedic relief and personal relatability being a fellow New Yorker. But also cause I feel like him and jazzs relationship was one the only few good/semi accurate potentials if an actual relationship. Compared to others at least . Especially when it comes to happy black couples but unfortunately God knows we can never have a conventional happy black couple on TV. But besides those very few things that I liked as well as the few good things you mentioned the shows a pretty big piece of garbage especially Zoey .
I get a lot of what you’re saying but I also just wanna say the show highlights most of their problems too. I see it more as.. it’s a show lol on a small network. It’s entertainment (a show to put on in the background) for me at least. Also they’re young adults. In college. This is how A LOT of people are at this age. Figuring life out. They’re not grown af and know everything hence why they have these issues and all the other characters point that shit out all the time. The only thing I can 100% agree with is that zoey has had absolutely ZERO growth in the entirety of all the seasons. But that’s the same as Dre is black-ish. EVERY episode centers around his ego & he never gets better no matter how many lessons he learns EVERY episode. EDIT: I didn’t watch the whole video but yea
Girl you’re so pretty
Been here since 300
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How has no one noticed that Doug’s full name is “Douglas Fredrick Edward’s”…? That man’s name is literally Fredrick Douglas spelt backwards and his whole character in season 3 was overly-black, and “woke”….? The writers of this his show need never to touch a notepad, or put their ideas to paper EVER AGAIN
Grownish is just another Degrassi.
Thank God someone is calling out that show. Degrassi is even worse than Grown-ish how in the world did become so popular??!!
I LOVE this breakdown. No lies detected at ALL
Both would be in costume designing class other that great review
I think her character might be a narcissist.
Rich people problems can't relate
What did you think of season 4?
You got Zoey right but aaron nah the show is good its a real good show