Old School Manstoppers! .38 Special VS .44 Special Lead Hollow Points!
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Lead Semi wadcutter hollow points in .38 Special+P VS .44 Special! The .38 Special is famously called the "FBI Load", the "Chicago Load" and the "Dallas Load" as it was known for it's exceptional "stopping power". I am comparing this round to the .44 Special loaded hot with the same style of bullet.
The .38 Special is a 158 gr LSWCHP rated at 1,000 FPS from a 1.875" barrel and the .44 Special is a 190 gr LSWCHP rated at 1,150 FPS (unknown barrel length). Always appreciative of any channel help :) www.patreon.co...
I get a lot of the same question, so here's my answer. NO, the recoil with this .38 Special+P was not as high as .357 Magnum, not even close. In fact, it was a lot closer to normal .38 Special ammo than anything, which is also in line with what a Glock 19 9mm is for felt recoil. This is because this revolver is about 40 OZ, which soaks up the recoil. I have fired this round in my 11 OZ J-frame before, and in that the recoil is pretty much on par with the felt recoil of .357 Magnum in my 20 OZ Taurus 605.
So I will reiterate the same information I stated in the video again in an understandable way; This round's internal ballistics are that of a .38 Special+P round, but because there is less bore drag because the bullet is soft lead, this creates exterior ballistics closer to .357 Magnum. It's a simple concept, but a lot of people still seem to struggle understanding it.
Gun Sam awesome video. And that is a very good point -- lead has less drag hence higher velocity. Its almost as if the old school guys knew what they were doing. That being said, I'm concerned about lead exposure. What is your view on the risks? Do you like the all copper bullets? What is your view on lead vs. copper for both effectiveness and exposure for frequent shooters?
@@alecswann7234 lead is a very heavy element, which means even airborne smoke isn't going to harm you, as long as you shoot in a well ventilated area. Wash your hands after touching the ammo or shooting and you will be fine.
That's also why so many people dismiss .38 special as too weak.
@@alecswann7234 lead exposure from store bought ammo is minimal at best. Reloaders and especially those who cast their own lead bullets face a much higher risk. Even this though is significantly mitigated by using proper procedure. Competitive shooters who reload and burn a thousand rounds a week might eventually show elevated lead levels but for us mere mortals hand washing and not licking ammo keeps getting s safe.
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.44 Special is such a great and misunderstood cartridge. It can drive a 250 grain Keith 1000 fps while staying within the very mild 15,500 psi SAAMI spec. The.38 Special Buffalo Bore was really impressive. Almost like a mid range.357 hand load.
I'm a fan of these senior citizen cartridges. They may be old but they can still woop ass. Great video thanks.
Thanks!
I have a Ruger Redhawk chambered in . 44 Magnum. I love shooting . 44spl out of it. The hulking mass of the redhawk makes 44spl feel like 9mm in a polymer pistol.
I really like these old loads test. FBI 38 spl+P
still rules!
Thanks for watching!
I think the old FBI load was a 158gr. LSWCHP. I used to carry those in my SP101, but have since changed to a 125gr. SJHP 38+P.
This load exceedes the " FBI Load " . That was originally 900 + from 4in , and eventually 850- 875 . ( And still an excellent load to this day .)
This BB load is duplicating the 1930's and ' 40's spec .38-44 ( which dropped to 1075 by '50s and early '60s ) .
Both the 38 and 44 SPL's are great cartridges, killed man and beast .
Nice video. Long live 38 and 44 special
38spl takes care of business. Good vid. Thanks👍!
Thank you.
I live in the middle of nowhere in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. I buy the same Buffalo Bore Bullets in .357 Mag., .44 Mag., for my revolvers and recently bought a 100 rounds of .45 ACP for my 1911. My neck of the woods has black bears, wolves and recently confirmed by the Michigan DNR, cougars. I have seen the same bear for about 8 years. I have seen dozens of wolf tracks and in February I saw a set of cougar tracks about 500 yards from my house. I have a German Shepherd and I have had wolves in the yard in the Winter quite often. Definitely train with these very powerful bullets before relying on self defense. Yes, they are more expensive than the same rounds of Winchester White Box, or something similar. This is especially important if you are carrying a semi-auto.
Wheel guns were the norm when I started in law enforcement, and I carried an N frame Smith in .44 Special, and a Charter Arms Bulldog magnaport custom backpacker as a back up. I carried CCI Lawman 200 gainers that duplicated the .45 flying ashtray profile, and hardness. They were softer, and typically opened up to .60 cal. or better, while shedding a little weight. In those days, we had to shoot out to the 50 yard line prone, and kneeling. The .44 would put them all in a hand span out to that distance. One of the most accurate rounds, and guns I ever carried. Carried the original flat nosed hydra-shocks in the Charter, and the wound channel they left was just plain ugly, and nasty. Miss those old CCI Lawman rounds.
That .38 special load was impressive. Thanks Sam.
Thanks for watching!
Your videos are almost always the same, and that's a compliment. I know what to expect when I watch them, and that makes it easier to compare various rounds through the different tests. Thanks for all the work that you put into these.
I have wanted to change things up a bit, and in the past when I did I got a ton of complaints. So now I will try to keep the first half the same, but at the end mix it up. Like this video is wood penetration, next week's video I did TAC-XP .44 Special and .45 ACP and that one ended with frozen ice jug penetration lol
My sentiments exactly.
I agree on the platform. Great info presented in a logical way and in the same manner. Sure makes for easy comparison. Thank you
These old rounds are like Tom Brady still getting it done great video
Thanks, Sam, for verifying what I have known for over 10 years. There are 5 BB 158 gr. "heavy 38" + Ps resident in my Taurus 605 pretty much everywhere I go. I know I can trust them to get the job done when I need them. The only time I change over to my BB .357 mag.180 gr. hard cast lead loads is when we are taking a walk in the woods here in Wyoming. Keep up the good work, Bud!
With good shot placement they both work just fine.
Was sheriff s deputy for 36 years retired in 17. Started out carrying revolvers had many still own several.Nothing wrong with them and they have some advantages.In todays world though I have since passed onto the semi autos.
Ex-LEO here too. Revolvers for about 25 years, then a Detonics Combat Master that I loved! Went back to revolvers at 69 years of age due to a stroke which took some strength fro my left hand. I now EDC a S&W Model 69 w/44 specials, in 2.75" backed by 2 speed loaders, or sometimes backed with a Charter Arms Bulldog, in my front pocket. An extremely fast "reload" if needed.
Nothing wrong with a "New York" reload! BB has a good load in that 38 spl. And yes the 44 spl is sadly overlooked.
Let's goooooo. I still edc a Ruger Police Service Six, even though I've got a g19 and m9a3. I definitely want a 686+ L comp someday. That's some nice shooting with the chrono!
Thanks.
Yeah. Same here. I bought a 365 to carry but still carry my SW model 66 or a snubbie daily. I just feel more comfortable with a revolver.
Either one is gonna ruin anyone's day.....thanks for another great review 👌
Again, I’m glad I carry the 38 special. I feel well equipped. Thanks for the video.
wearing my S&W 442 loaded with 135+p Gold Dots as I watched this..
Thank you, Perfect two rounds for comparison
Thanks for watching!
Nice accuracy on both of them and good rounds that can still get the job done. The new ammunition just has marketing advertising 🤷♂️
That Buffalo Bore ammo is awesome stuff!
I can't wait to see the snubby test of this one , despite the "tactical critics " with the right loads .38 special still is a very viable cartridge, thank to your advice sam I was able to pick up some .38 short colt perfect for my novice shooter girlfriend and plenty of it
Good idea I wanna see that too.
"Tactical critics" are typically gun-game players who require high capacity, low recoil handguns to score. Not really much experience with real life.
Actually .38 Short Colt isn't very common . " Cowboy " .38 Spl with 125gr gives essentially identical velocities .
@@filianablanxart8305 funny i just picked up 6 boxes
Good for you ! Enjoy, and it presents interesting handloading opertunities .
Nice test results. In 1989 my wife and I were in a gun shop where she purchased a used ruger security six stainless with 6” barrel. She reloads her own 38 n 357s. Thousands of rounds later she loves it and it is her go to gun for home 🏡 defense. Even our 28 n 30 year old sons love the versatility of the 38 - 357. Everyone stay safe and healthy. 🇺🇸 PS Sam you earned yourself a new subscriber
Thanks. 1989 was a bit ago, I was 9 lol
Gun Sam _Revolver Aficionado_ I was born in 1956 and that to was a bit ago. My sons guns n motorcycles 🏍 keep me young. Take care. 🇺🇸
A very special video! ; ) But allmost 1200fps with 158gr is rather magnum.
One of the things I love about your videos, is that you tend to use 4 inch barrels on your revolvers. I've got a S&W Model 10-6, and for a gun made in 1971, she's still a grand workhorse.
I love these videos especially because i use .38 special a lot!
Same here!
@@glennsammon4465 snubby?
Good test Sam! I love the buffalo bore line of Ammunition, that 38 and 44 are moving well and both performed quite well, especially the 38!! Thanks for the video!!👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you.
Old school still works if that's all you have left.☯️🎩♠️
Thanks for watching!
It works in the *first* place. It never stopped working. Human anatomy has not changed over the years.
I have multiples of 38, 44, 9mm, 380, and 12ga.
I trust my 38sp the most of all for home defense. It's my personal decision. It's extremely accurate, fully dependable, and is very reasonable on the muzzle flip and flare. All that's important to us in still of the night should an intruder be unlucky enough to choose the wrong home to break into.
The lowly .38 special. Seems to be working fine. Maybe it will fall from favor in the following century. Fine vid as always Sam!
Old school can still get the job done. Thanks for the great visuals.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for that! You helped confirm my choice when I head off to my LGS on Wednesday. Perfect timing for me 💥💥💥👍🙂
Two of my favorite carry rounds 44spl & 38spl .. thanks for sharing
You bet
Great test! Both of these rounds look ideal for home defense/conceal carry loads for 4 inch magnums. Massive damage without overpenetration, noise or recoil. Old school works really well!
Thanks. And that's a comment I made when filming my next video where I tested .45 ACP VS .44 Special Buffalo Bore Barnes TAC-XP. I said, a lot of people wonder why anyone would use .44 Special, but the takeaway is that it is quieter than even the 9mm, while being far more effective, and a LOT quieter than a .44 Mag, .357 Mag or the like.
As always a good and interesting ammo comparison video. Thanks for sharing. Take care.
Thank you, same to you.
I was just on Buffalo Bore's website looking at this .44 Special ammunition, so a couple of things; first is a warning against use in a Charter Arms Bulldog, so here is that:
"This ammunition is for use in ALL 44 SPL and 44 MAG. firearms except for the Charter Arms Bull Dog. No, this ammo won't blow up your Bull Dog, but if you shoot more than a few hundred rounds of this ammo in a Bull Dog, the gun will get looser than it already was, will go out of "time" and stop working."
The next is the real world velocity ratings:
➤ 1156 fps - Ruger Super Blackhawk, 5.5-inch barrel
➤ 1098 fps - S&W MT Gun, 4-Inch barrel
➤ 1046 fps - S&W mod. 696, 3-inch barrel
➤ 1057 fps - S&W mod. 396, 3-inch barrel
➤ 1005 fps - S&W mod. 296, 2-inch barrel
Damn. I forgot that I have a 629 with 3" barrel! LOL. It's ported though.
@@Fudmottin Oh well...lol.
BB makes a anti personnel 44wc that is meant for charter arms revos
@@mikey3800 that’s what I keep loaded in my 3” S&W 629 at the house so I’m not blowing up eardrums if I ever have to fire it inside or going through our walls and our neighbors! 😬😏
@@michigunsanta8680 Your 629 appreciates that stress free ammo
Sam: As you know my street experiences fly in the face of the “.38 is ineffective” myth, to include the old lead round nose rounds. It doesn’t look like the .44 Spl provides any advantage over the tried & trusted .38.
Thanks for watching. Yeah I don't understand why the .44 Special was basically identical energy to the .38 Special, unless it was designed that way on purpose.
@@GunSam
It was designed to be equal to .44 Russian so it was overall not that powerful to begin with in the 20s.
Do you care for something about a video suggestion that's up you ally? Maybe you can clear that up. While it's common that one fires .38 Special from .357 Magnum revolvers and .44 Special from .44 Magnum revolvers I've heard multiple times that while you can do it, it could do some damage (not by pressure) but cause the unsupported distance till the bullet enters the cone/barrel is longer. Is that an absolute non issue or did you run into this with some revolvers? Is there any harm of shooting thousands of rounds of .38 special for cheap training or was that just a problem of the past or never a problem?
Old Cop Retired sheriffs deputy of 36 years. Retired in 2017 Son of sam sure got results with his charter arms 44 special bulldog years ago.
@@glennsammon4465 I hear you I had a taurus mod 445 2 in for a while bout 20 years ago was a accurate revolver for a snubnose. Idk Ive got several but I dont carry any of them no more. But I will always like them.Back in 81 when I first started every1 carried smiths or colts a few rugers here and there. I did manage to find an old charter arms 38 for my youngest sons first handgun
It's not that this is a bad .44spl load , rather that the compared .38 load is excellent .
Could a handloader or boutique mfg boost another 100fps with this bullet ? Sure . But I suspect that BB ( in a wise business move) spec'ed this so as to be non painful and controlable in Charter Arms Bulldog and similar Taurus small snubs .
38 have my vote 👀💯🤫
Taurus made a 3 inch barrel , 5 shot 44 special revolver years ago called the model 431/441. Blue steel or polished stainless. It was a somewhat heavy frame gun.
Nice comparison. I'd feel comfortable with either one.
Thanks!
Interesting , my dear Brother Sam, quality videos/ always
Great comparative demo .. Applied Intelligence regularly shows that most every caliber will get the job done as long as you manage bullet placement properly. Very 'Special' work .. Thank you.
Thanks!
Man those look very good for self defense, thanks Sam.
Thanks for watching.
Just shows ta go ya... Old school did their homework. ;)
As Paul Harrell says "chronographs don't always agree" but Buffalo Bore seems to be by far the most honest manufacturer regarding their rated velocities. They always seem to be dead on if not slightly better. Looks like that would be some good carry ammo for my S&W 637, probably not the most pleasant to shoot though.
The issue is that big ammo manufactures pretty much never use a gun for ballistic testing. They use interchangeable barrel/chambers things. Buffalo Bore simply uses normal guns, which obviously is going to about be what a consumer would get.
Good comparison (and surprisingly good expansion). Takes me back. Dad used to cast and load Lyman 358156 back in the late 50’s through 60’s. I fooled with it and other SWCHP rounds in the 70’s and 80’s. Still keep a few around. I found myself wanting to calculate Cooper’s “Short Form” (his simplification of Hatcher’s formula for stopping power) on those rounds. In the days before modern expanding handgun bullets, these SWCHP rounds were the best available, and they were pretty good. 👍
Pleasantly surprised how well both performed. Really good velocity on both relatively speaking.
Great test. These are my current carry rounds.
Thank you.
awesome ... I EDC .38 special... and some when i carry my taurus tracker .44 mag in town, it has .44 special in it.... in the mountains .44mag always
I plan a short barrel test with this .38 Special ammo.
Another cool demonstration. I agree that either are quite satisfactory for personal defense. Keep em coming man.
Excellent video as usual. There are not many ammo makers that really want to make a cartridge all it can be. And while they are not in style anymore, that 38+ P you tested leaves little to be desired for LEO or personal defense. Buffalo Bore really earns their keep.
And what's cool is Buffalo Bore ammo has been available throughout all this ammo crisis. People don't want to pay what it costs, but they fully get what they pay for if they do.
I’ve been looking for this comparison for awhile 👍🏼
My conclusion is both have about the same power, you’re just putting more lead in your target with the 44 spc
I'd like to see more 44 special vs 38 special, in more of a comparison in snubby's.
Think Taurus 856 with 6 rounds of 38spl vs a Charter Arms Bulldog in 44spl, which only holds 5. They're both of comparable weight (around 20-22oz) if comparing to the steel frame 856. Both are of comparable price, right in the 350-400$ range (or so).
I bought 500 of the 158gn lead hollow point bullets from Midway and have been loading them with Accurate #2 and they are very shootable and accurate in my .38 Special snubby.
Both really impressive.
Thank you sir 🙏
Use them there Buffalo Bores to give the thugs their last blast before sending them on to eternity. Any bullet going at 800fps is =to 500mph so these bullets are roaring! I still think revolvers are way more deadly with the right bullets than any wonder nine. Thanks for the good work.
Thanks. You are correct. 9mm's take more energy to do what a lesser energy revolver bullet can do, because the extra energy does nothing but expand what the wide HP revolver round expanded with less energy. Now when you make the energy equal, the revolver round is instantly more effective.
The Underwood 190gr LSWCHP .44 spcl is also really good at a lower price. Still expensive,but so much cheaper than Buffalo Bore.
I wouldn’t be brave enough to fire that .38 load unless it was out of a .357 lol nice video!
Great comparison! Excellent double action shooting! Fun to watch
Looks fun! Just hate shooting in the cold. 38 & 44 spl. Rocks!
Yeah shooting the cold cold is no fun. But I have had to make a lot of exceptions since doing youtube videos.
Those rounds were pretty powerful. But, they are from the Buffalo Bore brand, so it’s not surprising.
Great video Sam! Appreciate the content you’re creating. I Love 158gr lead cartridges. I shoot these in my RIA M200. I didn’t know about the reduced friction creating more power. I just knew I liked how they shot and the recoil was not over the top.
This was a great video. Wow, that BB ammo is good stuff. I need some of that for my J frame and model 10. Thanks for doing this, Sam.
Great rounds for the trails
Hot Damn Gun_Sam, you've totally renewed my interest in a S&W Model 296. Off to peruse Gun Broker...
Thanks. I do not know what a model 296 is off the bat, but I will assume it's either a .44 mag or .44 special revolver.
@@GunSam it's a scaled up version of your 342 but in 44 Spcl. Alloy frame and Ti cylinder.
@@ED-2.0.9. Sounds painful !
I think I saw this vid a couple of days ago. Gave you a thumbs up anyway.
Thanks!
Great video. Very well done 👍
As always a great video. I really look forward to videos. Great job
Thank you
Fun video. I'd love to have some of those rounds right about now. 😊
My two favorite non-magnum revolver calibers. I need to locate some of this ammo!
Thank for the review. I really like the old school revolver rounds both in 38 special and big bore none magnum calibers. While this is an older video a suggestion for a follow-up would be to test these rounds in a snub nose revolver, such a Taurus and Charter Arms bulldog. Thanks again.
Couple of things to keep in mind: JMB's original load for 45acp was one that approximated the .44 Special [200gr @ 900fps; often called a "softball load" today in reloading circles] but the US Army wanted one that was closer to the 45LC [255gr @ 800fps] for killing horses [horse cavalry was still a thing] so he split the difference w/ the classic 45acp hardball load of 235gr @ 825fps. Also, in WW1 the Brits were looking to reduce the caliber of their handguns from the grand old doyen .455 to a .38; they wound up with a bunch of S&W revolvers in .38S&W [NB: *NOT* .38S&W Special, but the older, weaker, shorter cased .38 S&W!] due to the exigencies of WW1 and buying guns needed yesterday from US makers. The Brits wound up developing a 200gr bullet for it that was lobbed @ ~600fps, if memory serves. They called it "the mankiller" and it worked well enough that they carried it in service thru WW2. This in fact is the gun & load that M wants Bond to start using in place of his ludicrous .25acp Berretta in the original novel where Bond is told that he must upgrade to a real gun & accepts the PPK in .32acp which hit [according to Q] "Like a brick thru a plate glass window." I can only imagine that was in comparison to the .25acp Bond was used to in a hideout gun, which could be stopped by a book in someone's pocket [actually seen; saved the grandfather of a friend's life many decades before he was born, and he had the book from grand-dad...]
That ammo is hotter than anything that I would put in my old revolver.
You can say what you want about either round, but I wouldn't want to be shot by either one.
Great videos.. Really like your content. Keep it up!!!
Thanks, plan to!
Well time to get some 38 specials for my 2inch 357 lol
I tested them in my 2" Taurus 605. I haven't released the video so I don't want to spoil it, but I don't think you will be disappointed.
That buffalo bore .38 +p ammo is what 75 fps less than most mid range .357 rounds with a lot less recoil (you can see it on screen) ? Wow. Definitely worth the premium price.
Interesting.
Just a couple of comments from a handloader's perspective.
Lead bullets tend to register HIGHER chamber pressures with the same loadings as jacketed bullets. The common thought is lead is slicker and more malleable than a typical lead-core jacketed bullet, but the lead bullet forms better to the barrel and contains more of the pressure behind the bullet.
190 grains is a rather light bullet in 44 (.429" really) caliber. Buffalo Bore is known for 'stout' loadings, but my favored load for .44 Special is a 255 flat lead bullet about 800 fps. (S&W 44 Hand Ejector, 4.5 inch barrel.)
The .38 Special loading might be more 'agreeable' with many shooters. Surely the revolver - a K frame or J frame size - would be easier to conceal.
People always under rate the 38 special it's a wicked round.... I use 110plus p sjhp
Love my Bulldog .44 special!
This is great ammo , this type bullet works well on the low end also . A slower more common 38 SWHP would not use a gas check . They expand easy & if they don't , some kind of wad cutter works well .
With the " normal " swaged SWCHP , it's a delicate balancing act between expansion and customer complaints of barrel leading . A Cast HP with GC gives more latitude for ideal expansion w/o leading . But is much slower to make , and hence more expensive .
FWIW , it is openly stated by both parties that BB uses the Rim Rock bullets for these two loads .
When they say soft cast , there is a large area between pure lead & hard cast . I would say hardness #10 , I call med cast , works well , holds together , low leading if the rest is correct .@@filianablanxart8305
.44 spl is a caliber that just doesn't get a lot of love and there are a very limited number of guns chambered in that which would work for concealed carry. The Charter Arms Bulldog is the only .44 snubbie I am familiar with, and it is quite snappy with conventional loads. If I were carrying it, I'd probably just load it with wadcutters. My guess is that a .44 wadcutter would actually deliver very respectable stopping power.
Agreed, starting with a big hole is a very good thing!
Good video. This just shows that the 38 Special is still a very good defense round equal to a 9mm in a modern revolver with good ammo. The right bullet with the right powder to take advantage of the increased case volume just works in the 38 Special. As for the 44 Special, no one ever called a 45acp a poor stopper and the performance of those Buffalo Bore 44 Special rounds show better performance than the most 45acp. I've done similar tests and came out with about the same results but the ammo was off my loading bench. It should be noted that these tests were performed with firearms with 4" barrels, most ammo testing for the auto loadings use 5" barrels or longer, it makes a huge difference especially in a 9mm.
Uhm who says 38 and 44 Spc is a weak round ? The 38 has been putting dirtbags down for half a century and the 44 spc is the original thumper flying ash tray
Yeah no kidding. I sure don't want to take a 38. Special anywhere on my body, much less a 44. Special. Even if the 44. doesn't expand, it's going to make a big hole.
I took my Super Blackhawk to the range. I learned I don't want to use magnum loads in it anymore. I'm going to try 44spl next time. Or I might put rubber grips on it. I like shooting my GP100. Much easier!
Hence why Ruger made a GP100 in .44 Special only. True aficionados know this is perfection.
Wheeeeee!!!!.....been waiting for this!
Think about this, I can safely reload a 265-285 gr hard cast flat point with gas check 950 fps out I'm my Rossi model 720 with 3 inch barrel.but big recoil.a wonderful defense load for our NC black bear and hog close range protection. loved the video.papa
Both pretty good loads . The .38 load is pretty mean.
Been waiting for this
I like'em both.
Impressive performance out of that .38 Special. Would be nice to see it out of 2" and 3" barrels.
Interesting. I have seen previous testing where that 38 bullet at 1100-odd fps splits into 3 pieces. This is much better. I wonder if BB changed the bullet at some point. The 44 did well, but the expansion of the 38 is amazing. Glad i have some. Hard to go wrong either way.
This was a really nice comparison video. Back in the day I carried a Charter Arms .44 spl snubbie over my S&W .38 spl J frame thinking if I only get 5 rounds I want as much power as I can get. However now days the .38 +P really skew that philosophy. So it really is a benefit to the shooting community to have you doing what you do. So thank you. The saddest part is that in today’s society I can’t feel comfortable with just 5 rounds anymore. For what it takes to holster up I’d just as soon carry my Glock 19 as I would carry my snubbies. On a side note I went to Buffalo Bore to check out this ammo and I read a note they have for customers to read. Have you seen that? Did it seem like a whiny little rant to you? It did to me. I mean I get it, but it makes me second-guess wanting to order from them because much like the Federal ammo video I watched with the owner complaining I just find such interactions inappropriate as hell for a business to do.
Thanks. If we talk .38 VS .44, it's sort of like 9mm VS .45 in the sense that energy is not everything, and at the end of the day the .44 should in all scenarios, make larger holes, therefor it is theoretically more effective. Yeah I have seen their note. But, even though it might look whiny, I sometimes even in what I do appear to be whiny with my pinned comments. So, from my perspective, they probably are justified in whatever they wrote. People seeing them as whiny probably think two or three people complained, but I assure you if they felt the need to make that note, there was probably hundreds if not thousands of the same damn wrong comment, which they are exhausted from answering the same thing over, and over, and over, and over again all day long. So, the "pinned' something.
Out of all the guns I own and all that I have owned, I've never had a 44. Special.
Im looking at the rock island m200 4 inch barrel always good to learn what different ammo can do so i don't waste money on ammo that don't preform
That .38 Special is an impressive beast! Buffalo bore sure does know how to get the most out of the old .38! The .44 provided a solid showing as well. I'd love to know how it performs out of a shorter barreled .44... I have a 629PC snub and I'd like to find a decently potent 44 special that performs well out of the short barrel.
I don't have a short barrel .44, but generally what you might see is this round doing about 900 FPS in a snub.
@@GunSam Thanks for the information! My local shop started carrying Buffalo Bore a few months ago, but they've been totally out of stock on everything since! Thanks again, not just for this video but all the great tests you upload.
@@Sedan57Chevy Buffalo Bore's website lists this: 1005 fps - S&W mod. 296, 2-inch barrel
Great video!!
Thanks!
this is good carry ammo good test
I will test in a snub nose soon. Hence why I saved a lot of it, not hurl it at the tank.