48 Hours with Apple Vision Pro: What I've Found
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
00:25 - What is the Apple Vision Pro?
02:44 - Tunnel Vision on Apple Vision Pro
05:45 - Battery Pack Apple Vision Pro
06:49 - I DROPPED THE APPLE VISION PRO
07:52 - Is It HEAVY?
09:28 - What do you do with the Apple Vision Pro?
14:31 - Problem #1
15:28 - Problem #2
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EDITS and UPDATES:
1) Suddenly, when using the Virtual Display connected to my Mac, I can now input from my keyboard into the Apple Vision Pro's windows. Can still not use hand gestures to control my Mac window, but can input into things like my virtual iMessage window.
Great job on the video David! Thanks for making it.
I like the knit band. And while I've had mine for a week now (2/9), I didn't realize that my fit was too big. I went to an Apple store and they sized everything down. It feels even lighter with the correct fit.
Thank you for this video, it's really informative. I love your way of speaking and your dynamic editing. I encourage you to continue and to offer us more videos about technology. Your videos are very promising.
Thanks Paul, I appreciate you watching man!
Just use the trackpad on your laptop to interact with the Apple Vision Pro message application since it uses sidecar you can use the trackpad on all vision, pro apps, and Mac apps at the same time
Fascinating technology… love your 2 questions 1) what is it? and 2) what is it for? Watched the whole thing and still not sure but I can see why those questions are so hard to answer. Thank you David!
The what is it for question is the hardest to answer by far! But once you try it, you see the possibilities. It's just whether those possibilities become "must have" or remain limited to a neat device with some cool tech
Thanks for being an honest reviewer. Most are just influencers trying to convince us to buy this device. As iPhone is to most people, meta quest is better for most people.
I definitely wouldn't recommend that anyone buy this! Hahhaaa
I love your videos!! Thank you for sharing!!!
I appreciate you watching!
Brilliant review David, cheers. My question is, is it worth the price? Thanks as always.
It's worth the price to the right person. I think what you're paying for right now is to be part of the cutting edge of technology and essentially enter this group of beta testers that are playing with what may be a significant role in our future. And yes, with the cameras and sensors and screens all wrapped up in this thing, that price totally makes sense, BUT... I still think the average consumer should wait at least six months for some things to shake out
@@DavidManningvlogThanks David, that makes sense.
The biggest issue with the Vision Pro is glare and lens reflection when watching a movie in a dark environment.
I got some of that until I swapped light seals. I think the distance to your eyes really matters with the reflections, but it's very noticeable in the dark environments
@@DavidManningvlog Good to know because I had the same issue but am getting a new light seal and hope to have better results.
FYI, you can use keyboard and mouse on the VP apps at the same time. Just look at them, and then bring the mouse cursor over. Shows just like an iPad app, and your keyboard will type on it as well.
Whoops, saw you added that to your edits and updates.
Super odd bug, but mine wouldn't do it the whole first and second day, then magically started working on day three hahahaa
@@DavidManningvlog oh that's a bummer, first gen product for sure. 🤣
Some other video reviews show the trackpad and keyboard transitioning between the laptop screen and vision pro apps. Seemed like it was just by looking and dragging the mouse over.
The shared experiences are up to developers. It’s currently possible, just apps are not currently doing it since the device is so new
Yeah, added an edit in the top pinned comment, but mine was not working day one or two and then day three when I was editing this video, it magically started working! I had also just done the first update, so may have cleared something out bug wise
@@DavidManningvlog oh weird! Lol
Dealbreaker is they dont let you create a wide screen or dual/triple monitor setup for the macbook pro. I would like dual monitor + one vertical for development work. Or editing video in resolve, one window for monitoring video, the other for editing the timeline.
I'm hearing through the grapevine that multiple monitors from your MBP may be supported in a future firmware update. We shall see though!
“Budget tony stark “ 😂
Hahaa! Not quite as cool as Tony's setup! He didn't even need to wear a headset in his garage scene!
Has the headset been tested with people who wear glasses? Near and far vision correction? How do they work for people who are near and far sighted?
If you have a prescription, they make Zeiss optical inserts so that you can use the goggles without glasses or contacts
Wow... I can see a future use for video editing... Can't wait! Thanks David.
Sitting in a coffee shop, but editing on an 80" tv🤯
Yes I already seen a video about editing video here on youtube with davinci resolve with it. As well it's not completely comptatible yet but it's just a matter of time.
Totally. Workflows that use multiple monitors reduced to a headset. I see a lot of people comparing it to other VR headsets that are primarily for gaming, but I see this as possibly a productivity work station. Maybe not yet but in the next couple versions.
Video editing, without the speed and precision of keyboard and mouse? And with a 2 hour battery life?
A Mac can read and write files at 4000 megs per second, while video editing. How fast is AVP?
Great video🎉
The vision pro is just amezing ..apple did an absolutely impresive job
To start with, great video. You make a lot of really good points and bring up things that I had not thought of.
Now, to be a bit pedantic. I agree that these are not AR goggles, but I do believe this is the very definition of pass through. Pass through refers to the outside world being passed through to your eyes through the cameras. That definition may be a little different in regards to vr, but as an fpv pilot, our goggles that, in the past, have had pass through, were indeed just cameras on the outside passing the outside world image through the goggles to your eyes. Different in that you are not just looking through a clear lens with an image being projected over top.
Again, I could be mistaken about the vernacular in regards to VR tech, but that was always my understanding.
I think to dive super deep on it, there's pass through and then there's pass through feed, the later being the video feed bit. And I think to one day get us to a point where we could comfortably use AR in real life, we need true pass through lenses that can overlay information on the lens that aligns to where things are in real world. That's the dream🙌
Right on! I'm still learning. I appreciate the clarification. Great work in the video. I'm a new subscriber. 😁💪🏻👊🏻
Can you use a Mac Mini or does it have to be a MacBook?
Have to correct you on this: Apple did not invent the mouse. They first saw it at Xerox's Palo Alto Research Center. Xerox did all the initial groundwork for the mouse. Though Apple did indeed popularize it.
What do they say about the winners writing history?
@@DavidManningvlog After 40 years, Mac has a 9 percent market share. Winner, you say?
@@DerekDavis213You talking about a mouse or touchpad? It’s closer to 99%.
@@mtbmike9866 In 2023, 22 million Macs were sold.
In 2023, 220 million Windows PCs were sold.
Do the math. After 40 years, Mac has 9 percent market share.
@@mtbmike9866 I'm talking about the Macintosh.
Can you donet your old camera is it possible or ok for you sir what is the probability you will do it ?
Awesome video Manning! I feel like next level “3D movies” are going to mean something completely different in a few years.
There's already a full category on Apple TV and Disney+ for 3D movies and it's a killer experience! Way better than in the theatre
The craziest I’ve gotten with my headset poor man’s Quest 3 headset is go pee while I’m wearing it…. I was successful 😂
I definitely want one and will be getting one, however will wait for v2. Also, David- I am shocked seeing you edit in Premiere Pro😮 why no Final Cut.
I'm switching... eventually. Just trying to figure out if I'm headed to resolve or final cut. PRETTY SURE Final Cut is in my near future
@@DavidManningvlogI just switched to Final Cut from Adobe. Ken- OriginalDobo and Billy Kyle convinced me, and I’m never looking back. The effects, transitions, overlay plugins are so easy to use. Also export times are drastically improved.
My only concern with this is that this compeltes Apple's "walled garden" too well. Its already a solo experience for iPhone users only, I'm just imagining when Apple allows shared experiences with the headsets, its only with other Vision Pro users. We already see this with iMessages and "green bubbles," are our "realities" going to be determined by which brand of headset we get without interoperability?
I would expect that 100%. There may be apps that you can go into and share experiences with other headset owners of different brands, but I think if they create a way to sit in a room and share the floating windows effect, we'll see it be AVP owners only
Your problem #1 is something I've wondered about recently for VR-headsets in general. Really hope future headset makers try to make for a more social experience. Could be very cool even when you put a different privacy levels on certain virtual windows that only certain people can see, while everyone else sees a red x ... or some cat image ^^
That's a REALLY solid idea! You could sort of hide windows that only you could see in the same space
@@DavidManningvlog I feel like everyone who is in VR-development ought so watch the old anime "Dennou Coil". It's literally what Vision Pro should become in 2-3 generations :D
0:42 It's called Mixed Reality, because it's not just AR and it's not just VR, it's the mixture of these two.
I differentiate See-Through AR (like Hololens) from Pass-Through AR (like AVP). Eventually I think See-Through AR will take over, but for this decade and probably the next, the best AR will be using Pass-Through AR (like AVP).
The idea of a shared virtual / AR space is great, but the challenges are huge. However, on a slightly different note, as far back as May of 2016 I remember using Big Screen to share my virtual screens with my buddy as well as several random people. I don't believe AVP has that built right in like that almost eight year old application either.
I've heard it as True Pass Through and Pass Through Feed, with the later being the AVP setup. But I think you're exactly right that a see through version is what will ultimately gain mass adoption. I think we're quite a few years away from that, but I'm so dang stoked to get there. While again, I stand that most people shouldn't buy this thing, it is still the most incredible experience!
We can all be certain iPhone 16 Pro will allow you to have that virtual screen you are asking for, as it will include some sort of new chip (total BS) which prevents the phone from overheating or anything like that.
Love how the squarespace promo younuse the rhode microphone. The end 😅 kinda cool 😂 just imagine that...this tech with AI in 10 years...bananas!
10 years from now, this is going to be bananas!
Not sure Apple invented the mouse
Xerox I believe had a commercially available version first and the Apple created their own version of it.
Yeah, I think technically Xerox invented it
Douglas Engelbart of SRI-who would later work on the DARPA-sponsored ARPANET project, the Internet's precursor-invented the computer mouse. Then Xerox made the first commercially available mouse.
Will the insta 360 video surround you in the Vision Pro?
That's the hope, but right now I don't see any way of playing 360 videos in the headset. I think we'll need an app for that!
I saw one video, with iOS 15.0.2, you'll be able to connect iPhone via Vision Pro. not sure.
That's a needed feature because looking at your phone through these looks like a VHS tape
Is there a way to turn off bluetooth and wifi, then use an ethernet connection to it?
You can go turn off bluetooth and wifi, but you can't connect ethernet to it
Thank you! I wouldn't want to have something wireless near my eyes and brain for extended periods of time. Hopefully the tech companies will come out with a version that allows ethernet connectivity.@@DavidManningvlog
You called out my biggest issue with this. The lack of human interaction. I think the Quest 3 nailed this experience; I regularly work in Meta Workrooms with my buddies who live far away and it feels like we're working at the same table. We play mini golf and a bunch of other games and it actually feels like hanging out. I think the ability to make connections virtually with friends is my favorite thing about VR headsets. Apple's does the opposite and isolates you and when so much is isolating in the tech space, I think that's a huge negative.
Completely agree Andrew, but I think it's more of a V1 quirk than planned that way. There's already a few ways to interact virtually with other people like Facetime and some games, but I want to be standing next to someone that also has an AVP on and be sharing the same "AR" experience. I think that's when this thing gets great!
@@DavidManningvlog Hopefully! If they can integrate controllers into the gaming and create some better versions of those experiences I'd be down to upgrade.
Does it correct your vision or is the 4 eye gang scuffed?
Folks who say its really heavy or if it hurts likely have an issue with their lightseal. Changing mine for a different size made huge difference to face comfort and band comfort.
Interesting! So you ordered one with your iPhone's face scan and then the sizing in store was different?
@@DavidManningvlogSame for me, the scanned one fit like crap on my face, the store found something much better
more that i found the one it recommended (25W) deeply uncomfortable, so i went back to try more and ended up with a 13W - made the face and the solo band super comfortable compared to the literal pain i had with the scanned one - you will find loads of folks with similar stories on the subreddit and discord for owners @@DavidManningvlog
I think Apple should integrate with Insta360 to have an immersive experience inside your 360 footage.
Dropping the headset onto concrete from that height is not likely to crack the glass.
Get a Quest 3. You get much more value for your money. Besides it does most of the things much better.
At $4k iPhone connectivity should have been baked in!
You should pick up a quest 3 and youll return that paper weight rt away , after a month the honey moon goes away and if the headset doesnt have more then just searching the web and watching movies its just gonna sit there and collect dust . Quest 3 can do that and actually play real vr games and so much more and for only $500
This review misses the point on what a Spatial Computer is. Entertainment (movies, VR, AR) is icing on the cake ... BUT not limiting yourself to a laptop and two large displays, or having to only be able to work at your desk, or not wasting time to move a cursor between windows (vs. rapid eye movement) is what the Vision Pro is really all about. Portability and productivity are what make the Vision Pro pay for itself. For entertainment, get a less costly device.
Still incredibly jealous that you’ve seen avatar on this thing 😂
It's pretty wild!
Will NOT even consider buying one of these as I MUST buy two. One for my wife and I. Since we cannot even share watching the same movie, I’ll wait. Also, do you have same issue sharing your iPad screen to the goggles?
Yep, no sharing iPad screen to the AVP either, just your actual Mac. And you're totally right now, even if you both had one, you couldn't share the same experience😑
I think your daughter has it right... It's just kinda cool 😂 Being an apple exclusive kind of excludes a lot of us that don't support apple products
Hahaha kids these days are so desensitized!🤣
Reminds me of the scene from Johnny Mnemonic 1995
People are losing grips of reality
Hahhaa! That movie was set in the year 2021🤣
Nice review! I cringe at a reality of people walking around wearing these in public 😂
The public is not ready for these yet. More ready than they were when the Google Glass first came out, but still not ready
Peace ✌🏼
So is it only able to work with Iphone products, laptops, etc? I've never owned any apple products...just wondering cuz lord knows I can't afford this but maybe one day!
Yep, only Apple compatible right now. But technically you don't need to own any Apple products to use this. It just gets a lot cooler when you do because of being able to make your laptop screen giant!
Hard pass. Maybe when they introduce gaming, controllers and PC connectivity (LOL - not gonna happen).
Bringing in proper gaming on these will be massive!
No matter how great the features are, I don't want to endure the discomfort and wear that heavy device on my face all day...If you use it for a long time, it may be bad for your eye health or the health of your neck and spine...
What is going on with your channel bro? Nearly 400k subs and you barely got 1k views in 3 hours. Hope you work that out and share with us. That can't be right.
Hahaha I appreciate the concern! It's outside of my more focused niche and for that, it takes the algorithm longer to hit. Also though, I'm loving playing with this thing and have a lot to say, so not super concerned about the views🤷♂
My reaction to the device is it will die like 3D tvs did. If the price doesn’t turn people off enough, these goggles are terrible for people that wear glasses…you are already eliminating a good 30% of potential customers right away.
They're SORT of terrible for people that wear glasses. They offer optical inserts based on your prescription that just magnet in place. So yes, you do have to pay a little more, but you can then use the AVP perfectly. I don't think they'll die like 3D tvs, but I do think it will be at least four or five generations before we see anything coming close to mass adoption. The form factor will have to change significantly
@@DavidManningvlog That has it pros and cons because then you have to put your glasses in a pocket and if you don’t have a case then they get all scratched up. I have the Meta Quest and the DJI Goggles and have had issues with both. No more goggles for me.
This is going to be the start of taking people away from reality. Losing complete touch of reality and that's not a good thing for humanity. Especially when it comes to families and relationships. It will change everything about us.
cool, but still too expensive.
They definitely outpriced the majority on purpose with this one
There it is right there. You nearly passed out when you dropped them.
As a $5000 hearing aid where who has been putting up with this BS for decades?
People drop stuff. It should be in the ingredients of the product that people are going to drop it regularly and that is part of the deal.
Yessssss, BUT when the first iPhone came out, people said the same thing. We had all just come from indestructible Nokias and suddenly were breaking glass iPhone screens left and right. This is something you wear, but dropping it is not an option. Even with Apple Care, it's an additional $300 to get the front screen replaced😬
Xerox produced the first mouse as we know it for a personal computer back in 1973. Mice in other forms existed even before then. Apple didn't invent it.
You've been very luccky, cause JerryRigEverything tested it, it scratch at 2 out of 10
I saw his video and it made me realize I have to be WAY more careful with these than I thought!
Ah ok, yes, never use towel/Kleenex on that like he said. It's a bit shameful, a real scratch magnet ! . Tks, great review @@DavidManningvlog
Nothing can replace the eye, they are trying with a crappy mobile camera to project real world.
How many want to hear the pinch zoom story
Great video but please don't do too many videos talking to us while wearing them. I found it very off putting. Thanks 🫣
Hahaa! I completely agree! But I sort of wanted to make the point what they're actually like to wear and be around. Which I think speaks to the ability for society to really embrace this sort of technology. My wife hates when I wear them! That says a lot for what they're actually like to wear around
So it's a 3.5k usd toy 😅
At this point, yep!
Let me guess: It looks so idiotic, you can't go outside with it?
These things are a joke. A $3500 beta program. The novelty will wear off soon. I can't believe they sold 250k units. 😂😂
version 3 will change the world. Ijs.
I 100% agree and that's why I think they came in at such a high price point. This version isn't for the general public yet, only early adopters that see value in working with something like this first. Right now, there's far more wow factor and entertainment value than practical value for the money. But once the app store is developed and they come out with a much more budget friendly version, be prepared to see these things everywhere
@@DavidManningvlog I'm still creating an app. 😂 But what do you think the final price will be? $1500? Still not for the masses. You can get the Quest 2 that has much more content and is less limited for like $250 now. I just don't ever see apple creating a headset that the masses will be able to justify for what it will do. Just my opinion. Love your content dude.
So… you are poor, got it
@@DavidFosterVlogquest has less native apps than Vision, and vision has only been out for a week. more developer support, too. Apple had the right approach. Mark Zuckerberg did not. he harmed the adoption rate for headsets as serious computers with his Videogame Console tier strategy. I dont want to pay $500 for a cheap computer on my head. im willing to pay much more for a standalone with serious power and specs.
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