See my separate comment further down for details: you *can’t* record internally/backup recording when connected via bluetooth to a smartphone. Not possible. You *can* trigger a recording if transmitter is in bluetooth mode *and* not connected to a smartphone (blue blinking light) - but if connected to a smartphone via bluetooth the recording button does nothing but angrily buzz and red light goes on and off again.
Holy crap, the DJI sounds way better now. I was a little put off by the DJI after that video until I saw this. Stoked, cause I still haven't pulled the trigger yet.
Dave, I FEEL your pain. I know the exact scenario- research, perfectionism, and being murdered in the comments for getting some fact or detail WRONG. Here’s a lil powder to get a cheer-me-up. And thanks always for the EXCELLENT work you do! P
Benefit of DJI clip retainer for the wire is that it will “lock” ANY lav mic. The Rode unit will only lock lav mics that have the lock. I suppose you could still wrap the wire around it’s clip if it fits without pinching the wire. Thanks for the helpful reviews!
I was about to buy the RODE after seeing your first video but now you've got me 2nd guessing because the sound quality is a lot closer than before. I appreciate the update 👍🏽
It's tricky because they're both so good! If you're shooting a Sony camera, the new adapter is a pretty dang sweet sell, but you can't go wrong with either of them honestly
After watching your last video I almost didn’t buy the DJI mic 2 but I thought something wasn’t right so I decided to see for myself glad I did. Figured out the low cut in a couple minutes and realized the mistake in your last video. Thanks for the update. This is a great mic.
That routing path is more important for the longevity of the 90 degree connector than the "yank out" resistance. Trust me, back from the days of using wireless packs on my guitar...those 90 degree connections SUCK if they're not stabilized well. Flexing them back and forth nearly always ends up wearing it out, and boy howdy are those teeny tiny connectors difficult to rewire and repair. The routing detail behind the clip is a nice design feature to mitigate that for sure.
The Rode is significantly brighter in the top end and so seems more ‘present’ than the DJI. I’m not keen on the shiny plastic finish of the Rode though tbh. Swings and roundabouts …..
I think that's totally right, the Rode's built in mic has a brighter presence in the top end. But this is also both straight out of the transmitters without any editing. Pulled into edit, you can pretty much make either of them sound how you want
Mate, Those mics were not supposed to be tested by being carried near to the mouth. By doing that, you are making it easy for DJI. All the tests should show how strong a wireless mic can pick voice when it’s hanged on a shirt or using a Lavalier Mic attached.
I don't know about 1 being pared at a time. But if you keep them in Bluetooth for the pocket 3 then put them in the case, they 100% stayed paired to your pocket 3 when you take them out. They do not default back to the receiver
It’s totally fine to be wrong once in a while. I’m an audiophile so I still prefer the rode mic. The wireless go transmitter also records internally just like the dji. And the rode logo is a bit inconspicuous unlike the dji which is right in your face screaming look at me.
to be fair, it's kinda on DJI for shipping the mic 2 with settings you can't change if you buy the stand-alone mic 2. It doesn't even have 32 bit float on as default. If you buy the mic 2 to use it with something other than an action 4 or mic receiver, you can't change any of the settings.
I am really glad that the DJI MIC2 came together with the Creative Combo. I will not get the receiver, since I am always going to have it paired with my OSMO Pocket 3. But I bought an extra MIC2 ... the white one ... and have it paired to my iPhone (as standard). And I still love my Røde Wireless Pro kit, and will still use those as main audio kit together with my Mirrorless cameras. :)
I'm also thinking about getting 2 DJI Mic2s, but was wondering if you can access all the settings (like disabling the low cut filter) without the receiver. Can you confirm if all the settings are available without the receiver? Thanks!
Professional audio folk here, I would NEVER turn a lpf on at the source. The only circumstance for that might be if it was a live broadcast and there was no other way to cut the lows (ie mixer) and I was worried about something like excessive wind or background noise. You don't get the lows back if you change your mind later.
@@todddammit4628 Professional audio folk here too ;-) there is actually one use case for the LCF (it's not a LPF) at the source, namely when the rumbling noises are so severe that they would clip your recording. But otherwise, I think you're completely right. (of course in that case it would be best to identify and remove the cause for the rumbling, but if not possible -> LCF)
@@oppenheimer11 Sure. You need timecode when you simultaneously make several recordings from the same event, for example shooting video from different angles with a multi-camera setup, or recording audio independent from in-camera audio (or even with multiple mic channels). You need a way to synchronize all these recordings in editing. Doing this by hand can be challenging and time consuming. So, when you record synchronized time code with all your recordings, be it video or audio, post production will be a lot easier. When you only have one camera, and connect the mic to the camera, you won't need timecode - the camera will record video and audio in perfect sync. But as soon as you use external audio recorders (even the one that is built into the mic), you run in synchronization issues. There are professional audio recorders that record a timecode along with your audio. However, DJI Mic 2 can not do it on its own.
@@oppenheimer11 No need to start recording at the same time. In professional setups, a world clock is used. It's a small device that runs a clock and can send a clock signal to cameras and audio recorders, so they don't use their internal clocks, and instead record all the same time signal from the world clock. Professional cameras and audio recorders have a clock input, but that means that you have to run wires for the clock signal across all your recording devices on set. In editing, the editing software recognizes the clock signal embedded in all input files (video files and audio files), and automatically synchronizes them perfectly. If you don't want to run cables from the world cock to all recorders, you can shortly connect every device to the clock, and then disconnect. The cameras and audio recorders adjust their internal clocks to the world clock, and then continue to use their internal clocks. But over time there will be drift, so it's maybe good for the next two hours before you have to connect again. In earlier days, when no world clocks where used, filml makers used "claps". These are small chalksboards, where scene numbers where written on, and then (after recording started) the clap below the board was used to make a short click/clap noise. Later in editing, you can see the moment of the clap on video, and hear it in the audio files. So video ond audio where shifted to snychronize the clap event at the beginning of recording, resulting video and audio to by in sync. If you don't want to use a clap, you can simply manually shift your audio on the timeline until you feel that speach is lip-synced. But today's editor sofftware such as Fincal Cut Pro X offer a automatic function to do it for you, if you have embedded audio in the video. It works like this: Record good audio with the Mic2 on the person you want to record. At the same time, the video camera records video+audio, but that audio recording is not good to be used in the final output, because it is not near enough to the recorded person. However, it is good enough for the editing software to automatically sync the Mic recording with the camera audio.
Hi David, nicely done 🙂 1) If you have manually paired one Microphone / Transmitter to another device by Bluetooth, e.g. your mobile phone, it will NOT automatically re-pair to the DJI receiver when you put everything back into the DJI case. You have to put the Mic / Transmitter into its WiFi, not Bluetooth pairing mode before the resync will work. 2) I would also set 32 bit record up as that gives you something to rescue with more latitude in post from the Microphone / Transmitter recording. Note: the 32 bit recording is on the Mic / Transmitter only, it is not in 32 bit format when being transmitted to the DJI receiver. 3) You can switch off the function of the PWR button on the Mic / Transmitter which allows you to switch-on or off the noise reduction, so that it doesn't accidentally allow it to be switched. 4) If you've set auto record to ON and locked the record button, you can stop / start the recording from the receiver.
@@sturingnico There's the rub, you need the receiver for many of these 'settings'. So folks who have sold their original DJI Mic2 complete kit and just have the DJI Mic 2, will find themselves with less control. As an additional note to my original comment, when linking a DJI Mic2 by Bluetooth to a mobile phone or Insta360 X4 for example, even if you have enabled the Mic2's 32 bit float recording and / or the Mic2's Noise Reduction, both these TURN OFF when connected to the receiving device. I don't know why DJI did this, unless there was some kind of copyright on that functionality when not used with DJI receiver devices.
Thanks for this. Your original video was one of many that caused me to cancel my order because I could not stand the audio out of the DM2. I agree that this is kind of (mostly) DJI's fault. This high-pass filter should NOT have been on by default. I know the DM1 had that, and I turned it off. Rode did not have this filter that I noticed. I don't recall the filter having such a huge effect on the DM1 audio, but my memory could betray me. So now, I have one issue with the DM2. The big-ass logo and reflective case that is also transparent showing the texture + detail of the electronics. The Rode suffered from this nonsense too, but I found some matte stickers on Etsy to cover it up. A lav mic should not be a distraction, and draw no much attention to itself than what is absolutely necessary.
Just get a DJI Osmo Pocket 3 and decided to dump my Rode Wireless GO II for the full DJI Mic 2 kit. I'm so surprised to see how much smaller the DJI Mic TX/RX is in person versus the Rode. That doesn't really come through on all the videos. Also loving the ability to change all the settings right on the TX itself and not have to use an app. Not sure if you know this, but once you pair each DJI Mic 2 to both the receiver and the OM3, you can toggle which link is active. Yes, every time you put it in the charging case and take it out it will be active in receiver (regular camera) mode, but you just toggle the button on the side to switch it to Bluetooth. You don't have to actually go through the Bluetooth pairing process over and over. I don't use timecode, so having one mic system that works both with the OP3 and my Nikon wireless camera, for simplicity, is worth any slight differences between the two mic systems.
I could still easily tell which one was which. Myster mic 2 was the Rode, which still sounds much better than the DJI, and that's with laptop speakers. But it is closer now without the low cut engaged.
Especially when one mic already sounds how you want it to sound. But unfortunately, I will have to get the DJI mics because I have the pocket 3 and action 4 so it makes more sense. The Rode mic just sounds better.
@@sirgigolo you can use the road wireless Pro with your pocket 3. Yes, you need to plug-in the receiver, but is very easy to put a cold shoe adapter on the back of it.
Another tip: the BT audio quality is not as good as the standard mode. Record onboard the transmitter and use the BT audio in the video to sync up to the internal recording.
If connected with a smartphone via bluetooth the internal recording feature is disabled on the transmitter, I made a video about it a couple of weeks back - dji «informs» you about this hidden pretty well on the website :/ So only good quality option without the receiver is *not* connecting the mic to the smartphone, use internal recording, and then sync in post :/
@@valuemastery latest firmware on release, and latest firmware updated when it came some days ago - not sure how yours can record internally while connected to your smartphone since dji states it doesn’t on their website: «5. When the DJI Mic 2 transmitter is connected to a smartphone via Bluetooth, internal recording is not available.» Is you mic showing a steady blue light and you are recording in an app on the phone, while the recording light shows steady red? Because your mic can be «connected» via bluetooth and record internally, *if you are not actually recording in a camera app* on the phone - as soon as the mic is actively recording to an app on the phone it won’t record internally :)
I appreciate you so much. You’re giving us all the info! Answering questions and correcting yourself when you make a mistake. I really like these wireless mics. Trying to decide if I need them (I want them for sure) and whether to get the DJI or the Rode…. 🤔
DJI should rename themselves to DGI because I think I don't know anyone who actually pronounces it correctly. In Austria we say "Dee Gee Ai" anyway :-)
Thanks for the review and updates to your previous review. No shame in being wrong when you're cool enough to set the record straight. I do wish a screw-on lav feature was an option for use with professional lav mics. The built-in noise reduction constantly varies the sound quality which is destructive. Always best to apply noise reduction in post. Always. It's great that filmmakers have so many compact and affordable options for audio. These may lack some of the features and performance of professional systems, but they are waaaay better than using on-camera microphones. Audio, is so, so, so very important. I'm glad that DJI is giving Rode some competition, which encourages improvements that users benefit from. Life is good.
I'm currently trying to decide between these mics. Even with the lo-cut filter off on the DJI I can still hear that the Rode audio quality is noticeably better even on computer speakers. Having said that I think all the packaging/UI advantages the DJI offers might offset it's slightly worse audio quality for me.
It sounds a lot better after the latest firmware update also, I was using just the transmitter and it sounded like noise reduction was on all the time and it's much better now, My guess is with the transmitter only it defaulted to the low cut but didn't show it in the camera menu.
I’m sorry: You *can not* record internally in the transmitter when connected via Bluetooth to a Smartphone. Not possible. I made a video about it couple of weeks ago - Dji has the info on their website, but pretty well «hidden» out of the way. So no, you *can’t* record internally if using bluetooth to connect to a smartphone, so *only* way of getting better audio if one only has the transmitter and a smartphone is to record video using internal phone mic, and use the Dji Mic 2 transmitter as a disconnected recording device, *then* it will record internally, but not in bluetooth mode.
The DJI set being in one box whereas the Rode has 2 soft cases to hold everything is significant when packing. Also, being able to do the settings on the DJI screen looks more convenient than having to access an app. Can the DJI files be deleted using File Explorer? Apparently the Rode files need the app. 👍😎🇳🇿✨
One issue with having the transmitter record locked on is that you can’t switch the transmitter into Bluetooth mode without going into settings on receiver and turning it off. (So if you want to hot swap from receiver to pocket 3 etc. you can’t do it easily) Also if your using Bluetooth on your iPhone / insata360 camera etc you can not record internally. For noise reduction I wish they would allow us to disable it completely. I have accidentally hit it a few times now. Otherwise, it is a great system, I think it’s more geared toward content creators than it is professionals, but for me, having ability to connect it to Bluetooth devices is what allows it to stay in my bag. I also have the rode wireless pro system but I don’t carry it unless it’s for specific reason..
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. BTW you were not the only one not checking the low pass filter setting. There are many reviews out there were the DJI MIC 2 sounds a lot "weaker" then the Rode Pro. I just realized how much beter the sound from your main mic is compared to the DJU Mic. Whats your Mic/Sound setup?
im so torn between these two, i think I prefer the audio sound of the rode wireless pros, but the transmitter interface and style on DJI system looks so much nicer. and having the option for a white transmitter for wedding dresses is also very ideal. thanks for the update!
You did the right thing admitting that you were wrong. There is nothing wrong about it. It is much better than going around saying left and right that you are always right. Right?
You don't have to pair them again it just goes from transmitter mode (green) to bluetooth mode (blue) if you put it back to bluetooth mode it will be paired been using this with a osmo action4 for a while like this.
When you turn off the low cut filter the DJI 2 sounds better (most reviewers didn't turn it off, what I seen on RUclips ), but still the competition sounds better, in my opinion Hollyland systems are currently best . The only advantage the Dji2 mic has it's part of an ecosystem so that's a big plus for some.
I have the dji mic 2 and have watched many videos already but I found this video very helpful. I thought the dji sounded more pleasing. I listened on Edifier speakers.
I recorded a bunch of interviews at SHOT Show. I used two DJI mics, and two Rode mics. The Rodes have a TON of background noise. The DJIs pickup the person wearing it, and anybody directly left or right of them, but not.a whole lot of the background noise. As a matter of fact I had to add some extra background sound that I captured with the Rode mics by just recording in a common area for about twenty minutes.
Did you update the firmware on the mic 2 ? Before last update the mic 2 did a really bad job at picking up background sounds and sometimes you want those sounds 😀
Oh no...covered a lot of great stuff on here but might need 1 more video. Forgot to mention the new firmware release (for TX / RX) that came out on 01-31-2021 (v04.03.08.31). Just giving you a hard time...keep up the great work! 🤣🤣🤣
I have a Sennheiser MKE2 lav mic and I routed mine under that little clip on the transmitter and it worked for 15 minutes then no more. I checked it with my other equipment and I didn't short the mic - but will not work on the transmitter anymore. Maybe think twice about routing yer lav under it. Just sharing my experience. Great video. Merci.
on the mystery test the #1 is the dji, the sound is more muffled, audible even on my smartphone speakers in 360p quality on the video -and yes, the dji mic 2 is much clearer if held in front of the mouth like you do, but the problem is: these are supposed to be clipped to the chest, or clipped onto a jacket lapelle, and when worn like the the muffled-iness of the Dji Mic 2 is even more noticable compared to the Røde Wireless Pro. Although the Dji Mic 2 package «is cheaper» than the Røde package, they cost approx the same if adding lavaliers to the dji mic 2 (which might make’m more expensive than the røde package). And to get the clearest sound possible from the dji mic 2’s the cabled lav is necessary, and places it closer in sound to the Røde (but without the lav on the Røde).
I don’t see why you can’t pair with the receiver and the Osmo pocket. I believe you can have one Bluetooth pairing and to the receiver and change between these modes on the transmitters. It works with my phone but haven’t tested with the Osmo.
It will have to do more with the mics used than with the transmitter. I have a Sennheiser AVX lav mic which costs about 1200 Euro, and it connects fine with the DJI Mic 2 transmitter.
Idk. Even without headphones the DJI seems a little more linear. Just isn’t as good as rode. They aren’t super far off but I still think the rode sounds better which id expect from a company with so much history in microphones. DJI sounds significantly better than the first video though. With the low pass on I was honestly mind blown they charged so much for the DJIs😂
Thanks for this video. I cant get in one thing - at 7:58 farmgent with noise rediction - is this setting activated on mic/transmitter itself and will be applied to transmitted signal to reciver AND to inplace record? Or just to transmitted? I think about to get one reciver only to record audio internally on the bike with GoPro 12 - I just dont need reciver - its bulky with silly "media mode".
@6:22 is not quite right. From a footnote on DJI's website: When the DJI Mic 2 transmitter is connected to a smartphone via Bluetooth, internal recording is not available.
Great post, well done ! Got it with pocket3 creator combo, but i noticed that when i play the video in the mimo app, my voice comes with a small delay after my lips move :P How could i fix this ?
Sadly, DJI does not give any way to change this (currently) without having the full set with the receiver. This is bad for folks who are just using the transmitter with a phone. Their support suggests going down to a store that sells them and use their's… but I have yet to find any store around my that sells them ;)
Lockable cable have "2 sides" - you will have good connection and no incidently pull it from recorder, BUT if you pull it too much these flimsy cables just can not stand and instead of disconnection safely, you can ruin a whole mic (yeah, and need to purchase again - manufacturers happy, why do they need build last long things, right)
I have the DJI Mic 1 since 2022 and its been great. This new DJI Mic2 sounds terrible. With or without the the LoCut it still sounds muffled and muddy, with or without the comparison to the Rode. The Rode sounds way better. I'm not sure how DJI fumbled the audio quality on this Mic. When it comes down to it, a mic first and top feature should be good audio quality, especially at this price point. I'm not gonna be wowed by all the other features if the sound quality is not good. They need to fix that.
funny thing .. I ordered the DJI Mic 2 before seeing your video .. then saw your video and thought the Rode Wireless PRO sounded better so I ordered those also LOL now I have BOTH of them and here I am seeing this video about the low cut setting .. I still love ya though because it's on me that I've made more silly decisions but I will have to force myself to use each mic every other time I film just to not feel like I wasted because I'll have FOMO if I return either :O
I'm a big fan of your content and I'm reaching out for some advice. I'm in need of a wireless solution to monitor audio, especially when I'm away from the camera or receiver. Could you recommend any reliable systems that offer wireless monitoring compatibility with headphones? I'm open to any wireless headphone options. Thanks in advance for your help!
I got the Mic 2 and wasn't thrilled because of the noise floor issues. Even after setting it up exactly as recommended, it just didn't work out. I noticed some reviews where people didn't have the noise problem, which got me thinking. Then, after hearing how much better the Rode Wireless Pro sounded, I really wished I'd picked it initially. So, I went ahead and ordered the Rode Wireless Pro and I'm sending back the Mic 2.
Biggest question for me was, why was the low cut on as default? just discovered that myself over the weekend. Also noticeably lower gain levels than my other mics. DJI law mic still out of stock in the UK, looking forward to picking one of those up.... thanks David! appreciate the video.
Is it possible to just use a DJI Transmitter, record audio on internal SC card. Then use post to manage audio. For my application, I need a mic to record on person and don't have a requirement for a 'receiver'. Or other options?.. Thank you
Lots of "DGI"s in this video. Sorry guys, pretty sure my mouth can't say DJI unless I'm really thinking about it😑
😂😂
See my separate comment further down for details:
you *can’t* record internally/backup recording when connected via bluetooth to a smartphone. Not possible. You *can* trigger a recording if transmitter is in bluetooth mode *and* not connected to a smartphone (blue blinking light) - but if connected to a smartphone via bluetooth the recording button does nothing but angrily buzz and red light goes on and off again.
🤣 Oh well.
It's the same for me!😂
@@AndreSjoberg Just tried it, and despite what you say, I can. Works just fine.
It is fine to make mistakes or be wrong, it happens. No one is perfect. Worse is never admitting and insisting on being wrong. Keep up!
All about the "be a good human" movement lol
Holy crap, the DJI sounds way better now. I was a little put off by the DJI after that video until I saw this. Stoked, cause I still haven't pulled the trigger yet.
Sorry about that! Hahhaa! Man, when I realized it I was shocked that it was on by default
Dave, I FEEL your pain. I know the exact scenario- research, perfectionism, and being murdered in the comments for getting some fact or detail WRONG. Here’s a lil powder to get a cheer-me-up. And thanks always for the EXCELLENT work you do! P
Very crisp sound from that DJI lav. 👌
Great update, there needs to be a disclaimer: “warning, this video includes lav cable abuse viewer discretion advised” Great video bro! Thank you! 💪🏼
Benefit of DJI clip retainer for the wire is that it will “lock” ANY lav mic. The Rode unit will only lock lav mics that have the lock. I suppose you could still wrap the wire around it’s clip if it fits without pinching the wire. Thanks for the helpful reviews!
maaan, that cable pulling scenes killed me.
I was about to buy the RODE after seeing your first video but now you've got me 2nd guessing because the sound quality is a lot closer than before. I appreciate the update 👍🏽
It's tricky because they're both so good! If you're shooting a Sony camera, the new adapter is a pretty dang sweet sell, but you can't go wrong with either of them honestly
Fredo Heavy has a great dji mic post production video
After watching your last video I almost didn’t buy the DJI mic 2 but I thought something wasn’t right so I decided to see for myself glad I did. Figured out the low cut in a couple minutes and realized the mistake in your last video. Thanks for the update. This is a great mic.
Can low cut be switched on or off in Action 4 or Osmo pocket 3? Or do you need to buy the receiver as well?
@@SootheSound yup action 3 paired with mic 2 you can. Not sure about action 4
Great Video!! DJI 2 for the win!!
That routing path is more important for the longevity of the 90 degree connector than the "yank out" resistance. Trust me, back from the days of using wireless packs on my guitar...those 90 degree connections SUCK if they're not stabilized well. Flexing them back and forth nearly always ends up wearing it out, and boy howdy are those teeny tiny connectors difficult to rewire and repair. The routing detail behind the clip is a nice design feature to mitigate that for sure.
A super solid design element! Dual use, protect the cable and prevent pull outs👍
The Rode is significantly brighter in the top end and so seems more ‘present’ than the DJI. I’m not keen on the shiny plastic finish of the Rode though tbh. Swings and roundabouts …..
I think that's totally right, the Rode's built in mic has a brighter presence in the top end. But this is also both straight out of the transmitters without any editing. Pulled into edit, you can pretty much make either of them sound how you want
@@DavidManningvlog Thanks David, that's a great insight.
Mate, Those mics were not supposed to be tested by being carried near to the mouth. By doing that, you are making it easy for DJI. All the tests should show how strong a wireless mic can pick voice when it’s hanged on a shirt or using a Lavalier Mic attached.
I don't know about 1 being pared at a time. But if you keep them in Bluetooth for the pocket 3 then put them in the case, they 100% stayed paired to your pocket 3 when you take them out. They do not default back to the receiver
It’s totally fine to be wrong once in a while. I’m an audiophile so I still prefer the rode mic. The wireless go transmitter also records internally just like the dji. And the rode logo is a bit inconspicuous unlike the dji which is right in your face screaming look at me.
to be fair, it's kinda on DJI for shipping the mic 2 with settings you can't change if you buy the stand-alone mic 2. It doesn't even have 32 bit float on as default. If you buy the mic 2 to use it with something other than an action 4 or mic receiver, you can't change any of the settings.
What an intro on this DGI video 🎉 🙌
Dude, SO many DGI's when I started editing this🤣
I am really glad that the DJI MIC2 came together with the Creative Combo. I will not get the receiver, since I am always going to have it paired with my OSMO Pocket 3. But I bought an extra MIC2 ... the white one ... and have it paired to my iPhone (as standard). And I still love my Røde Wireless Pro kit, and will still use those as main audio kit together with my Mirrorless cameras. :)
I'm also thinking about getting 2 DJI Mic2s, but was wondering if you can access all the settings (like disabling the low cut filter) without the receiver. Can you confirm if all the settings are available without the receiver? Thanks!
Turning the low pass on by default when a large percentage of your customers arent professional audio folks seems a bit daft.
Professional audio folk here, I would NEVER turn a lpf on at the source. The only circumstance for that might be if it was a live broadcast and there was no other way to cut the lows (ie mixer) and I was worried about something like excessive wind or background noise. You don't get the lows back if you change your mind later.
@@todddammit4628 Professional audio folk here too ;-) there is actually one use case for the LCF (it's not a LPF) at the source, namely when the rumbling noises are so severe that they would clip your recording. But otherwise, I think you're completely right.
(of course in that case it would be best to identify and remove the cause for the rumbling, but if not possible -> LCF)
@@oppenheimer11 Sure. You need timecode when you simultaneously make several recordings from the same event, for example shooting video from different angles with a multi-camera setup, or recording audio independent from in-camera audio (or even with multiple mic channels). You need a way to synchronize all these recordings in editing. Doing this by hand can be challenging and time consuming. So, when you record synchronized time code with all your recordings, be it video or audio, post production will be a lot easier.
When you only have one camera, and connect the mic to the camera, you won't need timecode - the camera will record video and audio in perfect sync. But as soon as you use external audio recorders (even the one that is built into the mic), you run in synchronization issues. There are professional audio recorders that record a timecode along with your audio. However, DJI Mic 2 can not do it on its own.
@@oppenheimer11 No need to start recording at the same time. In professional setups, a world clock is used. It's a small device that runs a clock and can send a clock signal to cameras and audio recorders, so they don't use their internal clocks, and instead record all the same time signal from the world clock. Professional cameras and audio recorders have a clock input, but that means that you have to run wires for the clock signal across all your recording devices on set. In editing, the editing software recognizes the clock signal embedded in all input files (video files and audio files), and automatically synchronizes them perfectly.
If you don't want to run cables from the world cock to all recorders, you can shortly connect every device to the clock, and then disconnect. The cameras and audio recorders adjust their internal clocks to the world clock, and then continue to use their internal clocks. But over time there will be drift, so it's maybe good for the next two hours before you have to connect again.
In earlier days, when no world clocks where used, filml makers used "claps". These are small chalksboards, where scene numbers where written on, and then (after recording started) the clap below the board was used to make a short click/clap noise. Later in editing, you can see the moment of the clap on video, and hear it in the audio files. So video ond audio where shifted to snychronize the clap event at the beginning of recording, resulting video and audio to by in sync.
If you don't want to use a clap, you can simply manually shift your audio on the timeline until you feel that speach is lip-synced. But today's editor sofftware such as Fincal Cut Pro X offer a automatic function to do it for you, if you have embedded audio in the video. It works like this: Record good audio with the Mic2 on the person you want to record. At the same time, the video camera records video+audio, but that audio recording is not good to be used in the final output, because it is not near enough to the recorded person. However, it is good enough for the editing software to automatically sync the Mic recording with the camera audio.
Hi David, nicely done 🙂
1) If you have manually paired one Microphone / Transmitter to another device by Bluetooth, e.g. your mobile phone, it will NOT automatically re-pair to the DJI receiver when you put everything back into the DJI case. You have to put the Mic / Transmitter into its WiFi, not Bluetooth pairing mode before the resync will work.
2) I would also set 32 bit record up as that gives you something to rescue with more latitude in post from the Microphone / Transmitter recording. Note: the 32 bit recording is on the Mic / Transmitter only, it is not in 32 bit format when being transmitted to the DJI receiver.
3) You can switch off the function of the PWR button on the Mic / Transmitter which allows you to switch-on or off the noise reduction, so that it doesn't accidentally allow it to be switched.
4) If you've set auto record to ON and locked the record button, you can stop / start the recording from the receiver.
hi, without a receiver how do I control those settings ?
@@sturingnico There's the rub, you need the receiver for many of these 'settings'. So folks who have sold their original DJI Mic2 complete kit and just have the DJI Mic 2, will find themselves with less control. As an additional note to my original comment, when linking a DJI Mic2 by Bluetooth to a mobile phone or Insta360 X4 for example, even if you have enabled the Mic2's 32 bit float recording and / or the Mic2's Noise Reduction, both these TURN OFF when connected to the receiving device. I don't know why DJI did this, unless there was some kind of copyright on that functionality when not used with DJI receiver devices.
Thanks for this. Your original video was one of many that caused me to cancel my order because I could not stand the audio out of the DM2. I agree that this is kind of (mostly) DJI's fault. This high-pass filter should NOT have been on by default. I know the DM1 had that, and I turned it off. Rode did not have this filter that I noticed. I don't recall the filter having such a huge effect on the DM1 audio, but my memory could betray me. So now, I have one issue with the DM2. The big-ass logo and reflective case that is also transparent showing the texture + detail of the electronics. The Rode suffered from this nonsense too, but I found some matte stickers on Etsy to cover it up. A lav mic should not be a distraction, and draw no much attention to itself than what is absolutely necessary.
Everyone else does not seem to have noticed the low filter (high pass filter) either. You make me realise that the DJI Mic is okay.
Just get a DJI Osmo Pocket 3 and decided to dump my Rode Wireless GO II for the full DJI Mic 2 kit. I'm so surprised to see how much smaller the DJI Mic TX/RX is in person versus the Rode. That doesn't really come through on all the videos. Also loving the ability to change all the settings right on the TX itself and not have to use an app.
Not sure if you know this, but once you pair each DJI Mic 2 to both the receiver and the OM3, you can toggle which link is active. Yes, every time you put it in the charging case and take it out it will be active in receiver (regular camera) mode, but you just toggle the button on the side to switch it to Bluetooth. You don't have to actually go through the Bluetooth pairing process over and over.
I don't use timecode, so having one mic system that works both with the OP3 and my Nikon wireless camera, for simplicity, is worth any slight differences between the two mic systems.
It shows you care more about your viewers than bring right. Appreciate that David, thanks.
Oh my, what a blast! I watched to the end. Your humble honesty and humor made my day. Then there was the DJIs, Thanks!
I could still easily tell which one was which. Myster mic 2 was the Rode, which still sounds much better than the DJI, and that's with laptop speakers. But it is closer now without the low cut engaged.
Yep and this is also straight out of the mics. In post, you can pretty much make either of them sound how you would like. Both super solid mics!
I wonder how many purchasers really want to have to mess with the eq in post. I sure wouldn't.@@DavidManningvlog
Especially when one mic already sounds how you want it to sound. But unfortunately, I will have to get the DJI mics because I have the pocket 3 and action 4 so it makes more sense. The Rode mic just sounds better.
@@sirgigolo you can use the road wireless Pro with your pocket 3. Yes, you need to plug-in the receiver, but is very easy to put a cold shoe adapter on the back of it.
Nice follow up.. I've been a Rode guy but I think I'm going to replace my current Go IIs with the new DJI setup..
IMHO you'll gain nothing by doing so, unless you find the new TX units sexy.
Thanks for your honesty. We all make mistakes.
Another tip: the BT audio quality is not as good as the standard mode. Record onboard the transmitter and use the BT audio in the video to sync up to the internal recording.
If connected with a smartphone via bluetooth the internal recording feature is disabled on the transmitter, I made a video about it a couple of weeks back - dji «informs» you about this hidden pretty well on the website :/ So only good quality option without the receiver is *not* connecting the mic to the smartphone, use internal recording, and then sync in post :/
@@AndreSjoberg Maybe you had an older firmware version? My Mic 2 does record internally fine, even when connected to my iPhone via Bluetooth.
@@valuemastery latest firmware on release, and latest firmware updated when it came some days ago - not sure how yours can record internally while connected to your smartphone since dji states it doesn’t on their website: «5. When the DJI Mic 2 transmitter is connected to a smartphone via Bluetooth, internal recording is not available.» Is you mic showing a steady blue light and you are recording in an app on the phone, while the recording light shows steady red? Because your mic can be «connected» via bluetooth and record internally, *if you are not actually recording in a camera app* on the phone - as soon as the mic is actively recording to an app on the phone it won’t record internally :)
I appreciate you so much. You’re giving us all the info! Answering questions and correcting yourself when you make a mistake. I really like these wireless mics. Trying to decide if I need them (I want them for sure) and whether to get the DJI or the Rode…. 🤔
My EQ settings make the DJI Mic 2 sound like a SHURE SM7B
Whats your mic settings?
Fancy that a youtuber pushing out a review without properly testing the product first. What a shock
DJI should rename themselves to DGI because I think I don't know anyone who actually pronounces it correctly. In Austria we say "Dee Gee Ai" anyway :-)
It's damn near impossible to say! Especially when you're speaking quickly, it just comes out DGI🤣
Thanks for the review and updates to your previous review. No shame in being wrong when you're cool enough to set the record straight.
I do wish a screw-on lav feature was an option for use with professional lav mics.
The built-in noise reduction constantly varies the sound quality which is destructive. Always best to apply noise reduction in post. Always.
It's great that filmmakers have so many compact and affordable options for audio. These may lack some of the features and performance of professional systems, but they are waaaay better than using on-camera microphones. Audio, is so, so, so very important. I'm glad that DJI is giving Rode some competition, which encourages improvements that users benefit from. Life is good.
Also, you can pair the transmitter directly to the phone via bluetooth, no need to pop the receiver in the phone!
Can I only buy one mic to pair with my action 5 pro And don’t buy transmitter?
I'm currently trying to decide between these mics. Even with the lo-cut filter off on the DJI I can still hear that the Rode audio quality is noticeably better even on computer speakers. Having said that I think all the packaging/UI advantages the DJI offers might offset it's slightly worse audio quality for me.
It sounds a lot better after the latest firmware update also, I was using just the transmitter and it sounded like noise reduction was on all the time and it's much better now, My guess is with the transmitter only it defaulted to the low cut but didn't show it in the camera menu.
Already bought the Rode Pro, just think it sounds better overall. Just wish it had the features of the DJI mic. Bottom line is sound for me though.
I’m sorry:
You *can not* record internally in the transmitter when connected via Bluetooth to a Smartphone. Not possible. I made a video about it couple of weeks ago - Dji has the info on their website, but pretty well «hidden» out of the way. So no, you *can’t* record internally if using bluetooth to connect to a smartphone, so *only* way of getting better audio if one only has the transmitter and a smartphone is to record video using internal phone mic, and use the Dji Mic 2 transmitter as a disconnected recording device, *then* it will record internally, but not in bluetooth mode.
Yes this is true. You can not record on internally when connected via bluetooth.
The DJI set being in one box whereas the Rode has 2 soft cases to hold everything is significant when packing. Also, being able to do the settings on the DJI screen looks more convenient than having to access an app. Can the DJI files be deleted using File Explorer? Apparently the Rode files need the app. 👍😎🇳🇿✨
Please tell me which one is better rode pro or dji 2 please reply
I dont know english language
One issue with having the transmitter record locked on is that you can’t switch the transmitter into Bluetooth mode without going into settings on receiver and turning it off. (So if you want to hot swap from receiver to pocket 3 etc. you can’t do it easily) Also if your using Bluetooth on your iPhone / insata360 camera etc you can not record internally. For noise reduction I wish they would allow us to disable it completely. I have accidentally hit it a few times now. Otherwise, it is a great system, I think it’s more geared toward content creators than it is professionals, but for me, having ability to connect it to Bluetooth devices is what allows it to stay in my bag. I also have the rode wireless pro system but I don’t carry it unless it’s for specific reason..
Which mic was which during the mystery mic test?
Rode Wireless Pro :D
Thanks very much!
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. BTW you were not the only one not checking the low pass filter setting. There are many reviews out there were the DJI MIC 2 sounds a lot "weaker" then the Rode Pro. I just realized how much beter the sound from your main mic is compared to the DJU Mic. Whats your Mic/Sound setup?
im so torn between these two, i think I prefer the audio sound of the rode wireless pros, but the transmitter interface and style on DJI system looks so much nicer. and having the option for a white transmitter for wedding dresses is also very ideal. thanks for the update!
Spend 30 minutes developing an EQ preset and you can get the DJI sounding great (same with the RODE). I do wish DJI sounded better out of the box.
Personally the Rode Wireless Pro has more longevity and better investment than the DJI Mic 2
You did the right thing admitting that you were wrong. There is nothing wrong about it. It is much better than going around saying left and right that you are always right. Right?
That's good because in your first video I thought the DJIs sounded terrible.
You don't have to pair them again it just goes from transmitter mode (green) to bluetooth mode (blue) if you put it back to bluetooth mode it will be paired been using this with a osmo action4 for a while like this.
When you turn off the low cut filter the DJI 2 sounds better (most reviewers didn't turn it off, what I seen on RUclips ), but still the competition sounds better, in my opinion Hollyland systems are currently best . The only advantage the Dji2 mic has it's part of an ecosystem so that's a big plus for some.
RODE Still my favourite!
Awesome video! And your responsible attitude admitting that you're wrong and correcting them is very admirable!
I have the dji mic 2 and have watched many videos already but I found this video very helpful. I thought the dji sounded more pleasing. I listened on Edifier speakers.
you convinced me, I ordered it :)
I recorded a bunch of interviews at SHOT Show. I used two DJI mics, and two Rode mics. The Rodes have a TON of background noise. The DJIs pickup the person wearing it, and anybody directly left or right of them, but not.a whole lot of the background noise. As a matter of fact I had to add some extra background sound that I captured with the Rode mics by just recording in a common area for about twenty minutes.
Did you update the firmware on the mic 2 ? Before last update the mic 2 did a really bad job at picking up background sounds and sometimes you want those sounds 😀
Oh no...covered a lot of great stuff on here but might need 1 more video. Forgot to mention the new firmware release (for TX / RX) that came out on 01-31-2021 (v04.03.08.31). Just giving you a hard time...keep up the great work! 🤣🤣🤣
I like the action 4 with the mic2 setup for my moto vlog setup 👍 - i smashed the like button. Thanks for sharing the vid David 😃
Appreciate it brother!
I have a Sennheiser MKE2 lav mic and I routed mine under that little clip on the transmitter and it worked for 15 minutes then no more. I checked it with my other equipment and I didn't short the mic - but will not work on the transmitter anymore. Maybe think twice about routing yer lav under it. Just sharing my experience. Great video. Merci.
Hello, I have a question. What will the DM2's noise-canceling audio look like now that low cut is off?
Thank you and continue a good job.
Depends on ;your usage, but the Rode sounds much better and more professional.
on the mystery test the #1 is the dji, the sound is more muffled, audible even on my smartphone speakers in 360p quality on the video -and yes, the dji mic 2 is much clearer if held in front of the mouth like you do, but the problem is: these are supposed to be clipped to the chest, or clipped onto a jacket lapelle, and when worn like the the muffled-iness of the Dji Mic 2 is even more noticable compared to the Røde Wireless Pro. Although the Dji Mic 2 package «is cheaper» than the Røde package, they cost approx the same if adding lavaliers to the dji mic 2 (which might make’m more expensive than the røde package). And to get the clearest sound possible from the dji mic 2’s the cabled lav is necessary, and places it closer in sound to the Røde (but without the lav on the Røde).
I don’t see why you can’t pair with the receiver and the Osmo pocket. I believe you can have one Bluetooth pairing and to the receiver and change between these modes on the transmitters. It works with my phone but haven’t tested with the Osmo.
I wish that more RUclipsrs would use the Dji to reduce the wind noise.
Can you please compare the lav mics using both of these? I’d love to see which system sounds better using the lav mic. Thanks!
It will have to do more with the mics used than with the transmitter. I have a Sennheiser AVX lav mic which costs about 1200 Euro, and it connects fine with the DJI Mic 2 transmitter.
Idk. Even without headphones the DJI seems a little more linear. Just isn’t as good as rode. They aren’t super far off but I still think the rode sounds better which id expect from a company with so much history in microphones. DJI sounds significantly better than the first video though. With the low pass on I was honestly mind blown they charged so much for the DJIs😂
Mystery mic 2 which I believe is the Rode still sounds better.
Thanks for this video. I cant get in one thing - at 7:58 farmgent with noise rediction - is this setting activated on mic/transmitter itself and will be applied to transmitted signal to reciver AND to inplace record? Or just to transmitted? I think about to get one reciver only to record audio internally on the bike with GoPro 12 - I just dont need reciver - its bulky with silly "media mode".
My husband brought me my dji for my birthday and really didn’t know what I was doing but it’s seemed to just work
Rode always sounds the best.
Charismatic, entertaining and a good quality production. About being wrong, don't do it again (I'm just joking).
Awesome video again David I am just wondering does the dji mic 2 work with the gopro hero 12 using Bluetooth
@6:22 is not quite right. From a footnote on DJI's website: When the DJI Mic 2 transmitter is connected to a smartphone via Bluetooth, internal recording is not available.
Love the follow up! Great job!
wait which mic did you use when recording at your bench?
That’s a Rode NTG3 just off camera
Great job on the video David! Thanks for making it.
thx, cool vid! like the beach part with the yellow text and lut fits well together
Great post, well done ! Got it with pocket3 creator combo, but i noticed that when i play the video in the mimo app, my voice comes with a small delay after my lips move :P How could i fix this ?
Lemme guess.. mystery mic 2 is the Rode. I like #2 better still.
Sadly, DJI does not give any way to change this (currently) without having the full set with the receiver. This is bad for folks who are just using the transmitter with a phone. Their support suggests going down to a store that sells them and use their's… but I have yet to find any store around my that sells them ;)
Lockable cable have "2 sides" - you will have good connection and no incidently pull it from recorder, BUT if you pull it too much these flimsy cables just can not stand and instead of disconnection safely, you can ruin a whole mic (yeah, and need to purchase again - manufacturers happy, why do they need build last long things, right)
Kudos for owning up to some mistakes. Lots of gear and lots of tests; mistake are bound to happen.
I have the DJI Mic 1 since 2022 and its been great. This new DJI Mic2 sounds terrible. With or without the the LoCut it still sounds muffled and muddy, with or without the comparison to the Rode. The Rode sounds way better. I'm not sure how DJI fumbled the audio quality on this Mic. When it comes down to it, a mic first and top feature should be good audio quality, especially at this price point. I'm not gonna be wowed by all the other features if the sound quality is not good. They need to fix that.
funny thing .. I ordered the DJI Mic 2 before seeing your video .. then saw your video and thought the Rode Wireless PRO sounded better so I ordered those also LOL now I have BOTH of them and here I am seeing this video about the low cut setting .. I still love ya though because it's on me that I've made more silly decisions but I will have to force myself to use each mic every other time I film just to not feel like I wasted because I'll have FOMO if I return either :O
which one do you prefer since you have both ? im considering which mic is best ....
DJI also has a much less high frequency
The Rode still sounds quite a bit better to me!
I'm a big fan of your content and I'm reaching out for some advice. I'm in need of a wireless solution to monitor audio, especially when I'm away from the camera or receiver. Could you recommend any reliable systems that offer wireless monitoring compatibility with headphones? I'm open to any wireless headphone options. Thanks in advance for your help!
great response to error. learned some new stuff
I got the Mic 2 and wasn't thrilled because of the noise floor issues. Even after setting it up exactly as recommended, it just didn't work out. I noticed some reviews where people didn't have the noise problem, which got me thinking. Then, after hearing how much better the Rode Wireless Pro sounded, I really wished I'd picked it initially. So, I went ahead and ordered the Rode Wireless Pro and I'm sending back the Mic 2.
If you pull on the cable, it might break.
I would rather have the lav pull out of the socket than it be screwed in like the Rhode and the cable rip if it were pulled hard enough.
trust me over time if you use it enough it will probably matter a big deal. there’s a reason professional wireless packs all have locked connectors
Biggest question for me was, why was the low cut on as default? just discovered that myself over the weekend. Also noticeably lower gain levels than my other mics. DJI law mic still out of stock in the UK, looking forward to picking one of those up.... thanks David! appreciate the video.
Is it possible to just use a DJI Transmitter, record audio on internal SC card. Then use post to manage audio. For my application, I need a mic to record on person and don't have a requirement for a 'receiver'. Or other options?.. Thank you
2:39 Yeah no there's still a very district difference between the two mics in terms of sound and I do not even have my headphones on my laptop.
Just listening on my phone and they sound so different.
Dude, thanks for the update. Did you do a side by side comparison of the lavs in this video?
Great information, thanks for sharing.
Nice! Kudos for the update!