Nick Realizes He's The Murder Suspect
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- Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2023
- In this JCS inspired true crime documentary, we examine the case of Oral Hillary. A man charged with the murder of Garrett Phillips.
This video does a deep dive into the details of the horrific murder, the interrogation as well as the legal aftermath.
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Nearing the end of the video, I mention that the victim impact statements occurred on Day 8 of the trial. This is incorrect, the victim impact statements take place after the verdict was read. This was likely an error that was written into the script on accident and then some how went over my head during the edit. I will absolutely correct this in a future release!
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Guilty or not, he invoked his 6th amendment rights and questioning should have been stopped immediately.
lol he meant to say "5th" which is why they wanted him to clarify what he meant. he had no idea what he was saying.
@@joshjones718 why do you keep saying that? He said 6th, he meant 6th, and then he called his 6A.
@@joshjones718In the video they explain what the 6th amendment is, and he was very clearly talking about the 6th, not the 5th.
he meant and said 6th. @@joshjones718
It’s the 5th amendment
The neighbor lady was a saint for calling even when she thought it sounded paranoid. More ppl should have her thought process.
agreed however many are scared to call police as they feel they may get hit with a wasting police time charge
Trust your gut. Always.
@@grease_monkey6078oh yea how much time you get for a waste the police time charge? There's no such thing, the police encourage people to call to better be safe than sorry
@@grease_monkey6078What in the hell are you talking about? There is no such thing as a "wasting the police time charge". Police Won't even file Charges against a woman that report a false report against a man.. You sound ridiculous...
Like they should listen to every wacko conspiracy theorist? Nope.
They physically blocked him from leaving. They took his phone. They didn't allow his lawyer to speak to him, while she kept calling for him. He obviously said he wanted his lawyer, and they kept pushing him. These clown ass investigators need to be held accountable
This was a clear violation of his rights. They initially told him he could left any time but after he pleaded the sixth amendment and later wanted to leave they physically blocked him from leaving and even took his phone altough they knew that his lawyer tried to call him back.
Indict these officers for abuse of office.
Aeweq
I think the police are allowed to hold you while they get a search warrant. Although I would think that would only apply if they thought you were going to run or destroy evidence. Clearly Nick wasn’t going to do either. And it’s not like his injuries were going to magically disappear in the hours it took to get a warrant. So I can’t see how they justified holding him. I also can’t see any justification for stripping him naked. Clearly racism played a big part in this case.
I totally agree with everything you said.
You beat me to saying everything I was going to say
The fact that they said “you’re not under arrest” and then he tried to leave to go to work. And they didn’t let him, physically stood in the way… wow
But that was true. Nick was being detained, not arrested. Welcome to True Crime interrogations. 🤓
@@leannemo7382 Unless I missed it, they said that he was free to go.
@@StormyHallahan You did not miss it...Murray said he could leave and then Snell told him he wasn't going anywhere. Fact
Police 101 - Cops are legally allowed to lie.
They continued to interrogate even AFTER he invoke his right to an attorney. This is shitty on the detectives regardless.
This is a clear example of how not to run a murder investigation...
Yeah, this is really odd. I havent finished it yet...they told him he could leave but they wouldnt let him leave. The strip search etc.
We live in an extremely small town in Northern New York about as close to the canadian border as you can get.. Our police are not the most intelligent people.
The sudo intermigration situation was really odd. Went from help us go through a student list, to by the way here's your Miranda Rights, then to a stright up strip search.
@@45BRush New York state is beat out only by the New England states for having the highest average IQ and education level on earth, so maybe it's just you.
@@PenskePC17NYC. The rural areas are big dumb. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
They ruled out John Jones even though he had a history of ill intent against Tandy, It is just incredible.
But not his kids
@@thesportsguy126where did they say garret is his son?
Women aren’t held accountable anymore for the poor choices. Do we know about her private life? How many boyfriends were exposed to her children? Mr Hillary wasn’t an African American which was plainly obvious
I wonder if her husband was ever called as a witness. Was his alibi airtight?
I’m assuming the case is still open?
@@Tero92You are correct, Garrett was not his son.
Exactly what I said she even stated that she was afraid that she was going to hurt her and the kids
Yet another example of why you should never talk to the police. And certainly never go in to speak with them without an attorney.
I honestly think it was John trying to frame nick, but God knows the truth...R.I.P. Garrett so sorry for your family 😢
Then here’s your sign
That guy didn't have any skin in the game,,,Nick was angry because she chose her child over having nick as a boyfriend,,nick didn't like that,,hence didn't like Garrett
@@jamesdamron2065 what? I suggest skipping straight to the end, Nick DIDN`T do it
kinda sucks that they just gave up looking for the truth hey
@@jamesdamron2065John didn’t have any skin in the game? Uh, what? He was the ex-husband who didn’t like Nick and wasn’t he previously abusive? For all we know him and his son had their own problems and when Nick showed up as a suspect then John just jumped all over it.
The interrogator getting absolutely nothing and then trying to say "ah you lied to me" about CSI is too much for me. He was so excited
This is the exact time i started to doubt the whole investigation
lol. He was like ‘I’ve seen it, but that doesn’t mean I watch it’
"we're just trying to get all the ammunition against him at this point" on a single suspect without any direct evidence. That already proved how crooked the operation was, regardless of the result
Exactly calling HIM a liar when they are both sitting there lying to him and violating his rights. Ugh this case🤦
That was disgraceful and a cheap trick by the investigators.
This man went willingly to cooperate and ended up falsely accused, humiliated, denied his rights, stripped naked and photographed. Absolutely disgusting and deplorable actions by this police department.
I wonder what's going to be done about this.
😡😡😡
@@ShrimplessScampi hmmm 🤔
One of my biggest fears is being falsely accused of something heinous like this. It must be terrifying even if you’re cleared of any wrongdoing.
Welcome to the real world :) It's not like you see on TV, are told in school, or promsied by the authorities. You don't understand, that if the DA hadn't gotten so eager, they would have convicted him on circumstantial evidence simply by his statement and his daughters text? Police don't care if it is THE killer or a FRAME. They want clearance and don;t let them bullshit you about that :) Police will take ANY body, warm or otherwise, that they can attach to a killing.
That prosecuting attorney pretending to be emotional took the cake for me. Such theatrics.
I like the way you color code the dialogue. Makes it easy to follow
Yeah I like this guy !
Or girl*
@illlill0 BTW, They also might be non binary, in general , your committing a micro aggression by using gendered language anytime.
@@reefa781I hope this is a joke
@@reefa781 no ones upset about it but you.
I don't see how he could have lost that civil suit. Dude invoked his right to an attorney and they didn't stop asking questions. That's a civil rights violation.
All White Jury in civil case
Didn't the investigator even say that Garret muttered something (a name)before he died?
they are allowed to lie@@Dragon-cw6yz
Confiscated his phone too bc they were “about” to get a warrant
And ALSO told him he was free to go at any time. They lied, they had nothing that stuck and what supported that lie for me that sealed the deal was not letting him go or answer the phone from his attorney. It was corruption from the jump and he was smart enough to catch them in their lies.
39:13 This prosecutor had such a weak case, he forced himself to "choke up" and start to cry, purely as an emotional plea to the judge to override the sheer lack of evidence.
This is just embarrassing.
Trying to lock up an innocent man just for another V, what a low life.
Not clowns. They are just wrong! They are a disgrace. Nick stated clearly 6th Amendment and wanted a lawyer. I think he is suspicious because of this but I also think he is concerned those two cops want to stich him up. That poor beautiful boy, it's horrendous; if the cops had broken the door down he would have been saved. The next door neighbour was fantastic but the cops were not urgent enough. Xx
He practiced that for a jury. It didn't work on a judge.
Charges Nick with murder without premeditation... Alleges premeditation in his closing argument. What a joke.
Exactly! He put on a show, deserves an oscar😮
Amazing. The prosecution's case came down to: "He's guilty because he turned left from the high school parking lot." No evidence beyond that. Great move by the defense to seek a bench trial.
It’s crazy, sometimes I just don’t like driving certain streets on certain days or times, because I know traffic or because prior days experience
That conflicting text with his daughter regarding dinner is interesting th
@@eastsideriderNot really. The conversation could’ve easily been something like them giving each other suggestions or ideas for what to have for dinner & not coming to a conclusion before he had to leave. Then later on she naturally wants to come to a conclusion so she asks “what’s for dinner”? It’s extremely weak evidence for anything
Sometimes I just make a wrong turn.@@jrendon137
@@eastsiderider Two circumstantial "evidence" of him turning left instead of right and the text "what's for dinner" are not enough to convict a man of 2nd degree murder and having to spend years behind bars. Base on some of the comments here, I'm glad this man and his team were smart enough to ask for a bench trial instead of be tried by a jury of his peers.
This is the most corrupt case I've seen in a long time. They have no evidence, no hairs, no witnesses, and only a recording of him from a school parking lot. They literally treated him awfully. That police department needs to be disbanded.
I know from experience that most small town detectives suck at their jobs because they never have to deal with stuff like this. So when it does happen they’re clueless. I mean, no recovered dna and no fingerprints. Somebody opened that window and was hanging onto the ledge before jumping. And what exactly was Nick’s motivation supposed to be anyway? The text messages seem to indicate both boys were being harassed so how would randomly killing one get him back together with Tandy?
@@ClunkerSlimgood point
To be fair nick was bald.
@@reeepingk Probably what the police thought. "We couldn't find any hairs at the scene... and you know who's bald? Nick! He's our man"
Awww poor poor child strangler Nick had his rights "violated".
Cry me a river.
Seems wrong to not allow someone to answer their phone when their attorney is calling them back.
Yeah, not only wrong but extremely stupid. Not only denying him his rights but doing it on tape. They basically gifted him a chance to throw out the whole investigation
The cops sounded like children playing cops. If they’re going to lie and try to be so shifty they really need to brush up on ‘how to be devious when conducting a criminal investigation’ bc they sounded ridiculously amateur. The childish sounding fibs really exposed that they had nothing on the guy. It’s a travesty if Nick did kill Garrett bc the cops were hopeless.
yeahh....
Right! 6th amendment right to an attorney and they wouldn't let him answer the phone of his attorney calling him. Looks like a black and white violation of that right.
Am I missing something?
@@Carolyn184not to mention the “oh so you HAVE seen csi before - you lied to me.” Truly childish
Prosecutor prepared his theatrics for a jury and looked absolutely ridiculous in front of the dead pan judge.
R.I.P Garrett. You deserve justice.
Brilliant comment
“This video is the last time we see him alive”… umm, actually, it’s not
Yeah, "crying" and doing the " prosecutors without a case sh*t"....
lol
Lol EXACTLY! Telling the judge “keep an open mind” was INSANE, I’m sure he took offense to that ridiculous statement like he’s some biased soccer mom on a jury , the guys a judge (evidence is how it works) 🤦♂️
I don't know how the police got away with initially treating him like they did without him actually being under arrest. This is one of the most compelling videos I have seen in a while.
Because they're a foundational part of the system that allows such things to happen.
One of the first things narrated was that it's a racist town, the attitude of the community towards their relationship made the son uncomfortable with them dating leading to the break up.
Good point. Touche. The reporter failed as well. Describing the mothervas distraught by catenas not guilty verdict. It was relief. She knows he wasnt the murderer.
I read some of the comments left on this story. Now I know why Nick didn’t want a “jury of your peers” to hear this case…😢
In Non homogeneous societies that is impossible.
Bingo
Yeah it always boils down to race, and not the compelling evidence that we saw. Well like OJ he can help the police catch the real killers now.
I happen to think Tandy's ex, the cop who swooped in to be her hero during all of this, has much more knowledge of exactly what happened to Garrett. I personally believe that Tandy welcoming him back in was his goal. I believe he knew Nick, as a Black man dating a white woman in a very racist town, would be zeroed in on. He also knew the good ol boys club would shield him. I'm absolutely disgusted by the blatant civil rights violations the detectives got away with. Garrett deserves justice, & Nick deserves justice, too.
No evidence suggests there's any racism here whatsoever?
Where are you getting that from?
@@colinofay7237Did you mean to end your first sentence with a question mark? It makes what you're trying to say confusing.
@@colinofay7237 They treated the cop much better than Nick.He was a suspect as well yet didn’t have to strip nude,didnt have his phone seized and was never detained.Not only that they allowed him to assist in the investigation and sit with Tandy while she was interviewed.
@@BrooklynBalla it’s better not to entertain the troll. These are the same people that are adamant that Nick is guilty when the evidence (or lack thereof) doesn’t suggest guilt (beyond a reasonable doubt). Followed by the usual spin and deflect gaslight attempt, stating that there’s no “evidence” that suggests race played a part in *any* part in this investigation/case. So evidence isn’t needed for them to say Nick is guilty…but *YOU BETTER* come with evidence or proof of race playing a part in the railroading we just witnessed…otherwise you’ve got your tin foil hat on too tight while competing for first place in the Oppression Olympics 😂
you make no sense. tandy and "nick" were already separated, which should be the only clue you need. the motive was that tandy chose her son(being bullied) over "nick", by ending their relationship. he took his revenge by taking that son from her. the other dude has no motive.
When the person accused has to explain what the 6tth amendment is to the POLICE. OMFG. These. Cops are clowns
Ignorant, racist clowns.. Hell, their badges are made of PLASTIC!!!
he didnt explain. also, im pretty sure he meant he was trying to plead the 5th; that he refused to answer questions, as would be the obvious conclusion by the context of him saying, "you read me my rights, so now anything i SAY can be used against me. i plead the 6th". the reason they asked him what that meant was probably because they immediately knew he made an error and wanted him to clarify for their own liability of evidence.
Well there r several parts to the 6th amendment. It really shouldn’t matter once he invokes his 6th amendment rights that should been the end of questioning but I guess by not specifically asking for a lawyer they can argue what exactly he meant by 6th amendment. A right to a speedy trial? The right to be informed of his accusations? To have a witness testify in his favor?
@@joshjones718The 6th provides an attorney. The cops are still clowns. Your point?
@@tucobakunin8250 ✅✅✅ Agreed. I heard him ask to speak to his attorney a couple times before he said he wanted the sixth amendment. I don’t believe he had it wrong. I think he knew exactly what he meant when he said the sixth amendment.
The smart thing he did is to not opt for a jury trial. Despite clearly having his rights violated, a jury found that his rights were not violated.
I had a camp fire at my house a few years back with a few friends. A couple hours in we heard a woman screaming bloody murder in the neighborhood behind me. It was the most blood curdling scream I’ve ever heard. I called 911 and explained to the dispatcher what was going on and her response was “that’s it?” I was like wtf do you mean that’s it there’s someone screaming bloody murder from a quarter mile away and I can clearly hear her. something is wrong! And she literally said “ok fine I’ll send someone over”. Hats off to you Warwick 911 dispatch. Really impressive work.
So they never went after her ex husband because he was a cop? Bullshit! Get justice for that boy!
Well, you just answered yourself in your own comment.
Exactly! There's fucking footage of him at the house!!!!
As much of a feel good story the end of this is, the reality is that Hiliary is the only one that had any serious evidence, albeit circumstantial against him and he is likely guilty.
@@PenskePC17 What would be his motive though? To get back at the mom by killing her kid? There was video footage of the ex-husband in a parking lot right at the house as the boy was getting home, and that same footage did not show Hillary pulling up to the house, so... Whatever evidence there is for Hillary, there's more against the ex-husband (since the ONLY evidence was video footage). He could be trying to frame Hillary so that he can be the shoulder for the mom to cry on, hoping she'd take him back. Like the detectives said, she was very popular. The fact that the cops didn't even think about looking into the ex-husband shows that they figured he did it and they were trying their hardest to pin it on Hillary.
Edit: Also, they just flat out lied multiple times to and about Hillary. Everything about the interrogation, and they said he had a limp and immediately turned around and showed he did not. Like I said, they were trying their hardest to keep eyes off the COP ex-husband and do everything in their power to make it look like Hillary did it when there was no actual evidence. Circumstantial evidence should not even be considered. That is how innocent people get locked up or worse.
@@PenskePC17 that's what is puzzling me. They said there was clearly a struggle. Yet no evidence of any kind from it. Had to have been cleaned. Didn't have much time! Someone had to know what they were doing to pull that off so effectively AND quickly.
He was smart to ask for a bench trial. A jury of his peers from the community he’s already been ostracized from would have been a bad idea.
Agreed. That was his best decision. I think he attorney was the one to suggest it. The HBO doc dives deeper into it
Exactly!!
Guilty or not (and I think not) they simply didn’t have enough of a case and certainly not beyond a reasonable doubt. Does anyone think they would have found a jury to come to that same conclusion? I genuinely don’t know if they could have in that area.
@@djkb125 I don't think even if it went to a jury he would've been convicted. Still smart for going to the judge. But no sane jury would have considered that beyond a reasonable doubt. And the defense can pick apart the jury until it's one they like
@@TheProdigy_916 that’s true. Jury selection is super important here and the defense attorney would be very careful about who he picked. If any jury would have come back with a guilty verdict I have no doubt an appeal would be granted.
All they proved was that he turned left out of the school parking lot.
Dude did you even listen to the story? His story made no sense for why he was even there, just coincidentally leaving at the same time, and going the wrong way. Yeah I just happened to be the last person seen with the victim, who I just happened to have a grudge against, over this made up story of why I was even there.
You watch to many of these murder videos.
@@reignman30 yea. I watched the whole thing. They couldn’t prove anything. Yes he was there but that doesn’t mean anything.
suspect: i want my lawyer
cops: haha, so. gimme that phone
This is the perfect example of why we should all be afraid of scenarios like this. This man is clearly asking for an attorney and has an attorney calling him and the police will not allow him to even answer his phone. Then in turn, the courts deem no wrong doing. Whether you believe this man to be innocent or guilty, that is not the way our justice system is supposed to work. If it can happen to him, it can happen to you. We need to do better.
Asking for an attorney didn't exempt him from a pending search warrant.
@@KevinSmith-ii6tp what about saying you’re free to leave and then blocking him in the room and taking his phone out of his hand before obtaining a search warrant? I’m all for the investigation process, but not when it violates your civil rights. He wasn’t arrested that day. He wasn’t free to leave. He was subjected to an invasive strip search all after asking for an attorney. Are you really going to defend this?
I totally agree. American's need to learn their rights and demand that law enforcement adhere to them. Ridiculous!
And BTW, never allow police to enter your home! Don't even open the door for the (plenty of RUclips videos showing police sticking their foot on doorjam stopping citizens from closing their door). Out of control.
You said it yourself. PENDING. PENDING. @@KevinSmith-ii6tp
Nah I think he was "not guilty" at the second video they see of the kid I think passing the church they never saw Gary.... They saw John .... I have a feeling they took too long in this case but if they found no DNA at all not a piece of fiber from Gary that's very difficult to do in a crime especially in 2011 with the technology of forensics..... I think he's innocent and John should have been looked at the kid was almost home and the person to see WAS JOHN.... 👀
This is a great example of why you never talk to the police alone without an attorney. Also, never go to an interview with your phone on you.
They need a warrant in order to obtain that. They cannot just take it. It's illegal. Bit like walking into your home uninvited.
@@Ainaes-Feline unless you go to jail, from what i experienced. they basically said we have it now, you could give us the password or they'll get in the hard way, do you want to write down any phone numbers before you go upstairs, it will be put in your property when we're done
@@Ainaes-Felinewell cops have been known to do a few things that aren't exactly legal. Do your best to protect yourself, and assume that they will do things dirty.
@@Ainaes-Felinethat's not true
@@gregpettis1113 They can take the phone and hold it until the case is adjudicated, but they need a warrant or permission in order to access its contents.
I don’t know about anyone else, but my mouth was almost to the floor waiting on the verdict. I felt like I was back then this is a awesome video. Thanks for the post.
Me too!! My mouth was open all the way up to the verdict being read then I started jumping up and down while clapping 👏 I knew he was innocent!
Being refused the right to an attorney before taking his phone and stripping him of his clothes are a violation of his rights. If he is guilty this would lead to a mistrial and let him off
They TOLD HIM "You can walk out of here any time you want!" When he tries to walk out, they stop him, detain him, strip him down and photograph him! I think it was the ex husband. Wasn't he the one who was telling them to 'make it stick'? Plus the suspect will often insert him/herself into the investigation. And he was holding hands with the mom in the interview. Close to the family makes you less of a suspect.
Good point
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Something he said during the conversation made it go form interrogation to detainment. They only have to read your rights when you are in custody, when they started reading the rights was the moment they decided he was in custody. Something he said conflicted with something or the spotted some sort of thing they could use to strengthen their search warrant and decided to go for it. No one should ever talk to law enforcement without an attorney for any reason regardless of their guilt or innocence.
That's what I thought too, he wanted to be as close to the investigation as possible and basically the police told him all evidence they had so he knew he could get away with it and frame somebody else. I hope they do catch JJ's for this one day but it seems the police have cocked that chance up for themselves by having blinkers on at the start 👍
Yeah, i'm on this with you!!!
The same jury that found the police department no wrong doing after violating his 4th and 6th could have found him guilty in the criminal case. He did good by opting for a judge. The Justice system can be really scary at times.
All White Jury in civil trial.
That police department stripped him naked then took photos of his naked body, in a crime that did not involve sexual assault. Would the verdict be the same if he was a woman? Or white? Or a white woman? Or born in the US instead of serving in the military to become a citizen? To see him standing there like that made me think of human trafficking. Terrible.
The smartest thing Nick did was asking for a bench trial. Juries are so unpredictable and you don't know how much they'll follow the law and how much they'll follow their feelings.
If the evidence is largely circumstantial, a Judge alone trial is smart. Juries can be swayed by emotion; Judges (straight ones) are concerned about following the law and not having their ruling overturned on Appeal (like a periodic job appraisal, professionally they want to get it right for one-for the defendant as well). Defense lawyers know this.
Nick asked for a bench trial because the judge was also a member of the same secret society, and was obligated to give an innocent verdict regardless of the circumstances. In the documentary made about this case, Nick lets us know which secret society he belongs to.... that judge knew Nick was guilty but he had no choice in the matter. Go back and watch him deliver the verdict (not the DOCTORED video on YT where they insert a fake speech that the judge NEVER gave, go to the actual documentary) -- you can tell it makes him sick to do so.....I was disgusted by this case. It was a repeat of the OJ Simpson trial.....Nick is guilty as hell.
Wow, this video had me watching in suspense to the end. What a terrific presentation. I felt outrage on Mr. Hillary's behalf and pleased to see the DA found of prosecutorial misconduct. Thank you for that final piece of information. It was the perfect conclusion.
Wow, so many unheard stories and the way you describe criminal cases. Best channel I’ve stumbled across in a long time
🤦♂️ These cops are the greatest example of what's wrong with the judicial system in America.
by trusting that it was so completely obvious who the killer was, that they failed to compile sufficient evidence to convict the murderer; letting a miscarriage of justice occur and letting the killer roam free? yeah. thats why 40% of murder goes unsolved in america. sloppy police work on cases that should be open and shut like this one. hopefully "nick" will see some karmic justice.
@@joshjones718you wanted the Black man to be guilty so bad. Lol
@@joshjones718 Even if he's completely quilty I think it's good that he was declared innocent, because the cops can't pick and choose what laws they follow. There are too many innocent people in the US prison system already.
Feel terribly sorry for the mother, but that's the fault of the justice system.
@@joshjones718you smokea duh peepee I see
@@stephanfranklin4914You're the only one bringing up race, which says a lot about you. How embarrassing!
I don't know if he did it, but seriously, you can't just prosecute someone because he turned left out of a parking lot. How did the DA think this could even be remotely successful?!
It was one piece of several pieces of circumstantial evidence.
Agreed. It was their sole basis for zeroing in on him and after extensive investigative efforts, they then found an ankle scab. Pretty black and white here by the DA if you know what I mean. Poor guy has had his life ruined over this.
@@saturn722 Yeah but if you don't have any evidence that he was at the crime scene...no fingerprints, no hair, no fibers, not even a shed of DNA...and the motive is extremely weak. That's just not enough to send a man to prison for the rest of his life.
You can't a force a murder charge on the direction he left. I don't know who did it but I wouldn't have pressed the charges if I didn't have enough evidence
He kinda lied about alibi.
This was one of the best crime videos I’ve seen! I thought for sure they’d rule against for many reasons but it also slows down his lawsuit.
They owe Nick compensation for everything he lost and time plus defamation/humiliation .
Clearly it was the ex. He was present during questioning, the investigation, the trial. He NEEDED to be up to date on what was happening so he'd know how to move accordingly.
How do we know that Inspector Gadget were you there? 😮
It could be,....or it still could be Nick. It may have been another kid. They just didn't have enough evidence to convict Nick, but that doesn't mean he didn't do it. That being said, I believe in the rule of innocent until proven guilty.
@@garyhighley9022ya
@@slovnicurling9808you could say to frame Nick but that's a big stretch
I can't imagine the rage that the boys father must have.
It’s terrifying to think that something as innocuous as taking a different route home can be used against you in a murder case.
what?! no. it was lying about that and what the alternate route meant. that isnt the main reason though. he was the only person with a shady alibi(his daughter) and the only person with a motive. obviously the kid was targeted for death. who had that motive? trying to throw John under the bus is an easy out, HOWEVER, he was on camera pulling into his house and not leaving during the crime. Tandy left "Nick" for her son. he exacted his spiteful revenge toward her by taking her son out. there are many factors but the reality is clear as day.
@@joshjones718 Wow! I wonder why you are taking so personally the commenter's vast majority agreeing with the judge's decision. Hiding something?
@@joshjones718yup!! Dude is guilty AF!!
@archergirl8543 the fact that you think this is the only explanation speaks volumes to your emotional intelligence
@@archergirl8543 Based on what evidence?
The second you are asked by cops for an interview you call your legal representative. Don’t talk and wait for lawyer.
JOKE of a prosecutor. Charges murder in the second and in the last sentence of his closing alleges PREMEDITATION. FIRE HIM
And his take ass tears too
How can they take his phone without a search warrant and not allowing him to speak to his attorney??
They can't, but they did.
@@paulrichardson787 then he lost his civil suit. Talk about corruption
I'm sure they said "he freely gave it to us."
Beacause racism
@@hellogoodbye311 OMG shut up and learn to spell
Can you imagine being a prosecutor and being asked to take this case to trial. Your first question would be "OK, so he was in a car near the victim earlier, but do we have any actual evidence that he was involved in the murder, so I won't look completely stupid in court?
And it appears the first prosecutor did just that
Who has to go the direction anyone else think you should drive to go home.. I’ve seen plenty of ppl who told me that they saw me and stood close and didn’t even notice them at all. That’s what’s wrong with focusing on a person you think did a crime and allowing the ex to help cause he’s a cop and a white supposedly trusted person. Racialism is alive and well. Even black cops get fired, arrested and suspended way faster than a white cop in any accusations.
@@thesonofroe6961 sorry for you and that you live with that mindset.. Victimhood mindset is never gonna get you far in life bro..
@thesonofroe6961 stop with the racial victimized mentality. It literally will keep you from ever reaching your full potential
The prosecutor thought some crocodile tears would put them over
The moment you invoke the 6 or the 5th. Stop talking or say “i’m not answering questions” keep repeating that.
This was beautifully put together plus a positive ending 👌
These detectives are disgusting.
It was horrible to watch
"Cops"= criminals cut from the same cloth. 🤨
Yup, a couple of clowns. The very second he demanded a lawyer, they should have given him a lawyer or released him. If they ended up with enough evidence to arrest him afterwards, they could have come back to arrest him. They violated the man's civil rights, as well.
Far too many police think they can do whatever they want, whenever they want, and countless cases go unsolved because of it.
They aren't outliers unfortunately
Am more disappointed that the real killer seems to have been left out in this one.
That interrogation was maddening!! It’s horrible that a 12 year old was brutally murdered! The BEST thing the cops can do is a thorough investigation to get justice for the family! It pisses me off so much when they zero in on one person with minimal or no evidence just for the purpose of “solving” a big case! 🤬
It dont even matter about solving the case - they just want someone to blame and to kidnapp and cage in the cage of many physical and mental tortures. They just want to pin the crime on any poor or out of work slave / city zen person - that they can get away with charging for it.
@@jedross2136 But WE know about it. I'd REALLY like to see some REAL justice done (and I don't mean vigilante, I just mean that the truth needs to be known that Jon is a child killer). This is SICKENING.
@@mememan2344100% agree I went to school there at the time and people were beyond shocked about it possibly being Nick at all. Potsdam, I will say is not just white due to the icy winters... most diversity was found in the university itself.
@@mariella2884That University should be ashamed of themselves for not letting him work anymore. They helped in ruining his life. So glad he’s away from all of that BS.
Exactly then when nick gets found not guilty the family of garret are devastated the cops charging an innocent man on that flimsy joke of a case is detrimental to the victim not only does it destroyed the accused life it also means no justice for the victim, the town looked all white and likely viewed nick as dangerous just because he is black, also shocked that nicks civil case wasn’t approved guessing a jury who had already made up there mind that nicks a killer rejected the civil suit. Basically avoid that town if your black the cops are disgusting creatures and the town are a bunch of racists
whether this guy was guilty or not, it doesnt matter because his rights were CLEARLY violated right from the beginning. He invoked his right to an attorney, they still questioned him, they held him even when they said he was free to leave, they took his phone without a warrant, then held him for hours to get said warrant. All that is illegal, not to mention the complete lack of physical evidence, the case shouldve never gotten to court.
And this is why you don't talk to the police. Ever.
Nick had all the hallmarks of a likely innocent suspect - cooperation until the cops starts hinting at something more, immediately confronting the interrogators about the shift, asking to speak to an attorney and broadly keeping his cool knowing/hoping his actual innocence will win out. Really glad to see the presiding judge recognized the evidence was effectively non-existent.
I agree but his life and livelihood was completely ruined which is awful.
all the hallmarks of an innocent person, like misremembering ('12 times underoath') the route he'd taken home on what would be the most pivotal day of his life, lying about his alibi by his own daughter's admission, refusing to elaborate on a foot injury beyond 'moving furniture' - which could be the truth or could be one of the most generic lies one would tell in that situation. also, all the 'clearly guilty' acting people you see in interrogations are like sub 100iq legitimate imbeciles who know nothing of the law, and he struck me as quite intelligent. 'immediately asking for an attorney and refusing to answer simple questions pertaining to your guilt or innocence' may be 'the hallmark of an innocent person,' but it's also 'the hallmark of a guilty person with even a vague understanding of the law.'
Whyd he lie under oath the route he took then? Lol.
Okay…if he lied under oath, then he’ll have his day in court for perjury. It’s hilarious how the same people that supposedly champion law & order can’t seem to fathom that this man had his day in court…and was determined to be Not Guilty by the judge that presided over the case.
Inb4 *“the judge bought into the woke agenda”* 😂 We’re at the tail end of 2023 and entering an election year…it’s time for some new buzzwords and talking points, folks
@@na-vn5qy He was so guilty but the defence made it all about race.
by zeroing in on one suspect immediately those police officers are at fault for no justice for the victim ever being done and all those horrible wounds to Nick and his family too
@@jeffrey-bc1igthis is a stupid statement. Basing a finding of guilt with no evidence is absolutely dumb.
@@jeffrey-bc1ig making a statement of guilt without any evidence is stupid.
The ex husband hmmm
I think he did it but if what was presented in this video was all the evidence there was there was just 2 much room for reasonable doubt. If I were on a jury in this case i would have to go with not guilty just not enough direct evidence to send a man to jail for the rest of his life even if I do feel he did it.
@@jeffrey-bc1ig That's NOT the point. You cannot find guilty based on feelings. Regardless of guilt or innocence, you cannot find guilty without evidence. Please do not serve on a jury.
Nick deserves some serious compensation for everything they brought him through. he was treated awfully during the first "interview" and borderline gaslighted into submission. this is a tragic case, but under no circumstances should nick have been the main suspect in the case. john on the other hand shouldve been their number one suspect, but unfortunately this is a case of serious corruption in the PD.
Hearing “No!” & “Help!” That she heard and then followed by the lock clicking is chilling AF! Ugh
Imagine hearing those noises and someone saying help.. Then knock on the door and all you hear is the door lock. That's creepy as hell
💯
Nick knew was he was doing. That Bastard
Now that you say that, and seeing Nicks character, I actually now believe it was him.
He is to calm, calculated and composed, so only someone like him could have the nerve to calmy lock the door after killing a 12 years old. So, I now think is guilty!
@@ItsPrivateCC hot take tbh. you don’t see anyone else involved in this case as in depth as you do nick. maybe if the ex husband got interviewed you would think the same about him
Thank goodness for this Judge! Now the detectives can (hopefully) look into the ex husband. I hope there's an update on this case
Why would the husband kill his own son dummy
In his police statement, Jones said he was on a conference at his office (22 Depot St, Potsdam, NY) from 3:30pm to 4:35pm but was caught on video surveillance at his house at 3:50pm. Jones says his conference call started at 3:00pm but he was late coming on at 3:30pm.
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• Jones arrived back to his house again at 4:50pm just moments before Garrett skateboarded past his house.
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• Jones failed to mention in his police statement that he had what appears to be an interaction with Garrett on the sidewalk 10 minutes before he was murdered.
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• Video surveillance evidence appears to show Jones outside his house having a conversation with Garrett on the sidewalk.
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• This same video evidence appears to be tampered with by prosecutors with the interaction between Garrett and Jones getting blurred out.
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THE EX HUSBAND IS WHO THEY SHOULD BE QUESTIONING.
@@gregpettis1113Garrett wasn’t his son, genius. Ironic that you’re calling other people dumb
There won’t be an update. They already cleared the ex with tons of evidence that obviously wasn’t shown in this video.
The interrogation with nick is so infuriating 😭 they had not a single piece of evidence
90% sure the other ex did this. Especially when you said he had bad blood with her. Unbelievable they didn't look into him more.
Bad blood to just strangler her kid out of the blue? Why not strangle her? Nick had more of a motive to kill Garrett since he was the entire reason they broke up. And c'mon man, who was more likely to survive that 20 foot fall out a window, the skinny athletic black guy, or the over weight out of shape white guy? Only one of them had an ankle injury. And boy did John Jones get lucky with Nick just coincidentally stalking Garrett in the parking lot lol.
I knew EXACTLY where this was going the very moment John Jones was introduced as the ex & sheriff's deputy.
Yeah..it's called foreshadowing...everyone else thought the same thing lol 😂
@@TheProdigy_916 OK, well I'm introduced to a video and new account on my feed, without knowing the creators style, I'm going to have general opinions. As a "prodigy" I'd hope you could easily understand this.
corruption of the highest order.
I’m still convinced he is the actual killer
@@ZzzMMZzzi meet one every few weeks or so. I’m glad to give them the much needed attention and enjoyment they get from scoring points on RUclips comments . Just glad I don’t have the time or feel the need.
Corrupt incompetent cops . Imagine how many innocent people get caught up in this b.s .
Don't relinquish your property without a warrant and dont even go down to the police to talk to the police without first consulting your lawyer
@@DarkRift7 Right .
It’s terrifying.
Don't forget RACIST!!!
As a white man, Bob Dylan said it best. In the song “Hurricane” about Ruben ‘Hurricane’ Carter who was rotting away in jail wrongly convicted. Dylan’s lyrics, in part; “If you’re black, you might as well not show up on the street
Unless you want to draw the heat.” Dylan’s song helped Ruben Carter get out of jail. Thank God for that.
Don’t go to police stations for an interview without a lawyer. Or better don’t talk to them until they have a warrant. Let them prove their allegations without your help😆.
I really appreciate you adding the captions in there. As a non native english speaker, it is very often very hard to understand a single word with these police tapes. And the YT autotranslate really isn't doing a good job either. So thx a lot !
Same. Thank you.
Same, though my issue is bad hearing.
I've driven "strait home" like ten different ways, because of minor traffic, because I wanted to finish a song on a playlist, because I wanted to enjoy the view or just simply because I freaking felt like it. It's really sad to think cops would pretend that everyone drives 100% effectively and never for fun. The cops really deserve a lifetime of crippling embarrassment for this one.
Right, they always act like that when you get pulled over. One time my friends were messed with by the police because they were taking a walk through the woods (non-private woods). When explaining they wanted to see nature one of the cops started yelling "Nature!? NATURE!?" as if it was preposterous that anyone would want to take a hike.
Exactly my thoughts, also. I always take different routes because I'm easily bored by seeing the same sights over and over. Sometimes because I'm looking for new ideas for landscaping or house colors. My God, if that is considered evidence for a crime, I'm in BIG trouble. Scary!!
No doubt there a lot of cops out there who are idiots, but this guy was obviously lying and guilty he had the motive who has a motor to kill a 12 year old kid I'm sure they thoroughly investigated every possibility, I think the mother knows who did it she knows she knows it is partially her fault you stupid can't because you wanted that cock she is an idiot@@nicholasagnew2792
Same. Cops will twist anything to fit their narrative. Sometimes they’re right, often they’re wrong. And someone’s life hangs in the balance.
*straight
Bruh when they said John Jones, I was like "What kinda shit has Jon gotten himself into this time?" 😂
Same lol
The lawyer objecting to every single question during a deposition is SUCH a childish tactic.
Man and they wouldn't let him talk to his lawyer?? How is that not against the law...
Well because of his hue, and the laws of the land don't apply to the so-called blk man and I am surprised he was found not guilty.
It is, that’s why he wasn’t convicted. You can’t prevent people from contacting legal council before a police interrogation, especially after they ask for one after being read their rights.
@@CreamsiclePup; he should have won his civil lawsuit based on that alone!
@@CreamsiclePup Correct, but they did not respect the fact he wanted to exercise his right because in their mind, subconsciously their laws Are for them not us. And didn't he have a lawsuit against them? They shut him down.
He was SMART to do trial by judge. That tells you a lot right there. Also that huge breath the guy holding the mom's hand when the cop walks in tells you ALOT
There's literally no situation that incompetent cops can't make worse.
Were those cops incompetent? Maybe. But they also 100% knew they were trying to frame one suspect who happens to be black, in order to protect another would-be suspect who happens to be a cop. Sure there's probably some incompetence in the mix, but what they attempted was evil.
@@serjeantpepper2986WELL SAID.
... how about no double jeopardy? i dont see how they could exacerbate that.
@@serjeantpepper2986😂 "happens to be black" jesus christ whats the matter with you?
You summed it up in a nutshell with those words.
Omg the fact that the “community didn’t approve of their relationship” & then he’s suspect number one is a little suspicious to me.
There was more evidence he was guilty of murdering that kid than there was of the "community not approving of their relationship" but that's your biggest concern? If he in fact killed that kid, then the community would be right for not approving of the relationship. You don't even know what the disapproval was about. Maybe they saw some red flags, like him not being good with the kids. He was the #1 suspect for obvious reasons that had nothing to do with skin color. Strange that you don't have any questions beyond your own bias. Yeah the cops didn't handle it very well, and should be fired, but Nick still looked pretty guilty.
How in the hell did this ever go to trial? What a messed up DA!
Shocking he lost his civil case. Maybe not all parts of the case, but they refused him a lawyer, they had zero evidence to hold him, the stripped him of all his rights along with his dignity when he was stripped naked and photographed. Absolutely ridiculous
All White Jury in civil case is y he lost
This is precisely why he asked for a judge only verdict. He knew if it was in the hands of a jury he’d be going to jail
Playing the race card again isn't going to stop you guys for paying those consequences 🙅🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️ He unalived a kid...he deserves way worst but unfortunately, that's not possible 🤦🏿♀️
Sounds like the verdict had you flying your confederate flag at half mast @Richgurlz
@@Richgurlzexcept he didn’t “unalive” (seriously? What are you, 12?) a kid. He was found not guilty of murder in the second degree in a court of law. Be mad about it.
Damn, this was one of the better RUclips crime videos I've seen in a while
Straight up… I was coming here to say the same thing.
I felt he was innocent from the middle of the video. It just didn’t make any sense
"Were watching Dexter" and the intro was visible. Someone has to be a fan 😂
That deputy needs to be investigated YESTERDAY.
No Nick did it and got away with it just like OJ is guilty! You wait 2 plus years to arrest someone and he's smarter than the DA, he asks for a bench trial knowing the odds are in his favor!😪
they were not looking for justice for garrett, and they didn’t do a thorough investigation into all leads… they were just looking for an arrest and a closed case
Why don't you move to East Chicago with your family. East LA, another find American city.
@@donniesmith512 Why don't you shut up
its disgusting things like this happen and then the police are given a free pass
Awesome video
I can’t help but wonder how many people are in jail who are truly innocent but the justice system has failed them.
hundreds of thousands
Good thing we have capital punishment.
It's much lower than you think. The system isn't perfect but they get it right more often then not. Again, sadly there are obviously some people that were wrongly convicted. But it's not gonna be some crazy high number. It would be pretty low.
@@paulrichardson787hundreds of thousands 😂😂😂😂?
@@TheProdigy_916 Are executed innocents simply collateral damage? Or anyone at all who has lost one second of freedom to a false conviction? It happens all the time. All the time. I suppose it's ultimately a "glass-half-" thing, but if you see some actual facts and numbers, it may be much higher than you think.
They tried to work backwards, fit him up for a crime - put him in the "frame" . Disgusting they should all be fired. He is victim of a lazy police department , an incompetent district attorney .
The crying prosecutor is also a disgusting wannabe ........
I found lawyer to be super cringe
they were lazy; it should have been an open and shut case against him. a child murderer is walking free because they thought it was a slam dunk with minimal and shoddy police work. it wasnt a SA. it wasnt an abduction. it wasnt a B&E for theft. it was someone the victim knew. it was someone who had motive. he is the only one that fits the profile. the boy's mother chose her son over "oral", and he "showed her". end of story.
@@joshjones718Are you the Jones guy in the story who should have been the real suspect because there’s no way in hell you could think Nick did this.
@@mofarr83Classic case of “begging the question,” although that term is often misused lately.
@maireadob he's definitely related 😂
Refuses to accept that the cops covered their buddy. There needs to be an investigation into that Jones guy but I doubt it will ever happen
What an inconclusive ending. Hopefully justice is served one day.
Judge got it right based on the lack of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. Defense was genius asking for a bench trial because a jury would have likely bit on the circumstantial nonsense
How is it that it's diffetent with a jury? Sorry i'm not from the US..
It shouldn't matter what your gut tells you, a court should only weigh evidence for or against the suspect.
And clearly the evidence against him is laughable.
He's got a REALLY strong case, against the entire agency
If he's smart he'll leave it alone. The one who did it is a cop.
Maybe he will pay the past child support for all his kids.
@@goodmorningsundaymorning4533 and a clearly very well supported one, as well.
That's an excellent point.
If that video of nick's car being "near" garrett by the school is the strongest piece of evidence against nick then the prosecution needs to be removed from their jobs. Completely ridiculous.
You're being really dismissive of what is excellent evidence. The reality is Hiliary is the only one that has any evidence against him even though this video acts as if Jones is the likely murderer.
Our nation is filled with corrupt DA's, it's not about justice it's about making a name for themselves and moving up the corrupt ladder and onto the bench
Purpose of the prosecution isn't really to find out who and what did who and what... it's to put blame and end a case. Obviously finding the truth is a priority but half the time they go off of assumptions and lack luster of evidence to prove guilt
I don’t understand how they had no dna, fingerprints, case was literally full of holes
At least the jury in this case gave the benefit of doubt to Mr Hillary. That’s so rare..
Letting a suspect in a murderer investigation be part of that investigation is literal insanity. That department is not only incompetent as F, but corrupt as hell.
This was a fascinating story.
I hope there's a part 2 to this video where we zoom in on the ex-husband and his involvement
Cops never zoomed in the ex-husband, so there is no trail or no information gathered to report on the issue.
That doesn't make sense that the ex-husband would have been part of it. The only way that it might make sense is if the boy came home and caught the ex-husband in the house doing something creepy like sniffing panties.
They focused solely on the him so the ex husband got off the hook.
It’s the panty sniffing for me 🤣🤣☠️☠️
@@DebiQ1830 or the ex husband wanted to make it seem like the ex boyfriend was a killer so he could get her back? The wife was already complaining about the husband impeding her and Nick's life, unnecessarily.
Stay awake one of the only channels who finds original cases like JCS!!!
This case was on 48 hrs years ago
@@cjrains6022 first 48 isn’t Criminal Pshycology! It’s more investigation based
@@cjrains6022yep, w a lot of interviews w Tandy.
If i hear "objection relevance" one more time 🤯
😂😂
So the sum total of actual evidence they had was that he turned left out of a parking lot?
There was so much time between the neighbor hearing the screams calling the cops showing up waiting for the landlord. My God that boy could have been saved
Ok Cpt Hindsight 🙄
That’s what I was thinking. I wish they would of broken the door. They said they heard someone inside so he jumped out while they were there
It's fishy right from the start. How did they not inspect the property while waiting? Then the would have seen the broken window and landing spot on the ground. Wtf?!
His rights were so violated,all over the place!
Yeah so violated that he lost his civil case. Hahaha
@ding-a-ling7627 Yeah, but he won the court case and isn't in jail. Justice prevailed.
@bigwezz he's very lucky he was black.
@@Biker65 What’s funny? a innocent man was man falsely accused of murdering a child with literally no evidence by the state and they aren’t held accountable for the deceit and miss justice they inflicted. Muster up some empathy jeez.
Finally, an interesting case to dissect
💔💔 such a beautiful little boy. My heart is broken for his mother and brother. 🙏🏻
John's harassment of Tandy & her sons ... and his abuse of the judicial system (which Tandy outlined at 35:42) ...
- makes his playing supportive/caring "friend" (FIEND) at 25:46 ...- all the MORE DISGUSTING ...
I've no doubt he is not only putting on this act - to help ensure that focus is not put on himself ...
- _BUT to also _*_"get off" on seeing Tandy's suffering ... A common trait of ASPDs_*
You have no evidence to support any of this besides what you saw in a RUclips video lmfao
@@TheProdigy_916 : Good grief ... Are you demented?!? ... Why the wholly-F would you actually say that?
No F'n DUH! ... NO ONE in this - nor most-ANY-other commentary section "has evidence" ... B/c - "GENIUS" - we're NOT official investigators/prosecutors/etc!
I was simply pointing out - THE OBVIOUS!
@@TheProdigy_916 : Hold up ... What SPECIFICALLY are you saying I "have no evidence to support" (on)?
B/c on this comment - you've posted your reply to ...- I simply *laid-out a common tactic of ASPDs* ...
_Now why would you take issue w/that - exactly?!?_
_("lmfao" - what a juvenile thing for you to add ... Socially-awkward much?)_
What is ASPD and why would you expect others to know what it means ?
I am so mad for the way they treated Nick, accusing him of lying and taking his phone away. Scummy officers. How gross!
Does race play a role in his mistreatment?
Dude is guilty af grow up
How on earth is it not unlawful to hold someone’s phone and prevent him from talking to his lawyer? They also detained him without reading him his maranda rights.
As a wife of a retired chief of police he and I where both appalled by his treatment! Shame on law enforcement!!
@@BadDruciferno. It doesn't. That's just the false narrative of the local Potsdam Race Baiting Marxists.
Crazy this happened the way it did.. I take various routes home all the time just to see a change of scenery, having that be used against you for 5 years is nuts..
This is why you don't say "Hi" to a pig walking past you on the sidewalk without your lawyer present.
I am literally only one minute in and I’m just so grateful that the neighbor did something when so many people often just ignore this kind of stuff. I was a very physically abused child growing up and even though I had a lot of marks nobody ever said anything or tried to help. I hope this woman has a lifetime of blessings for her proactivity
Im so sorry that was done to you. 😢💔 Pray you live a great rest of your life! 💫