Its amazing that the Forerunners had lifespans of thousands of years and that for them, their urgency to defeat the flood was over thousands of years while the UNSC had wiped out the Flood in just 20 years...
There's something I don't understand, I hope someone can help me with this: In the books they say that the Didact was moved to Earth (the Cryptum) but in the terminals of the game (H4) they say that he was on Requiem... So... What am i missing??
The Didact's original cryptum (not the one in Halo 4) was moved to Earth by the Librarian during his exile centuries before the Forerunner-Flood War. He was seal in a combat Cryptum in Requiem at the end of the Forerunner-Flood War.
Ah you've brought this back. How long has it been since the last one? 😂 A good few months at least. In any case, another great lore video and hopefully you'll be coming back to this series.
When I started at Halo I imagined the forerunners as peaceful race... Now they come out as Dicks... killed the precursors...Almost killed the humans and San shyuum Much more.......
There was an original array of 12, 30,000 km diameter rings. The 7 rings we know of for the final array are a separate array, which I'll go more into more detail about in the next part of the story.
Beatrice Neniute Well, I'll try to sum it up: Essentially, when the Halo array was first built, there were 12 Halos and an Ark (which was bigger than the Ark we saw in Halo 3). Later, a second Ark was built (called the Lesser Ark since it was smaller). This Ark built small Halo rings (10k km vs. 30k km) but ones that fixed a number of problems from the original array and were over all more efficient. Without getting into detail,11 of the original 12 rings were destroyed during the Forerunner-Flood War, along with the greater Ark (the original Ark). The last remaining Halo of the original 12-ring array became Installation 07 for the final array (it was also shrunk down from 30k km diameter to 10k). The 6 rings built by the lesser Ark were then distributed and activated. So, that's a heavily abridged version, but there you go.
I have had a question I have had been itching to ask and I do wonder if 343 will reply to that.... Or allow me to do some cannon for it. Since Forerunners beat Humanity and devolve them into what they were. Where did all the Human ships, weapons, and tech go off too. The old saying go's "the spoils of war go's too the victor". When we beat Germany, Japan, and Italy in WWII we had a huge tech boost because of them. But since Forerunners thought they were superior already but had a little trouble beating the Humans but still won, they would feel no need to update their tech to out class humans since they think their superior. But all this useful tech would be interesting to study and Forerunners could have built a shield world to house all Human ships and weapons as like a Museum, to show how vastly superior they are, until the flood comes along.
The Forerunners wiped all evidence of the Ancient Human civilization from the Galaxy. Well, as best they could. Some of it survived here and there. In Halo Legends, The Babysitter, that planet is implied to have ruins from Ancient Humanity. The Hellcat armor in Halo 5 is also based on Ancient Human armor.
+Halo Canon Woahwoahwoah holdup. How much does ONI know about the ancient humans and forerunners then? Obviously not as much as we do but do they know about the war? The Precursors?
Amaz1ngWhale Well, two of the books in the Forerunner Saga have in-universe counterparts. Halo Cryptum is "The Bornstellar Relation", and Halo Silentium was recovered from the body of a Catalog found in Trevelyan. So, ONI know quite a bit about ancient Humanity, the Flood, Forerunners, and even Precursors.
But the question is where all the ancient Human weapons, ships, and tech disappeared off too. they wouldn't leave the stuff for the devolved Humans to find. And Forerunners would be interested in how Humans were able to stand toe to toe to them. I mean they killed most of the Precursors. which are like gods.
The Forerunners won, yes. How Humans were devolved, exactly, I can't say, but the books goes into some detail. In essence, the Forerunners somehow forced Human DNA to revert to older "forms", some members even being consciously aware of this change. Over a few generations, they were primitives again.
Ultimate Knight the humans had been attacked by the flood first forced into forerunner space weakened by the flood the forerunner ran them to another Galaxy I to exile causeing them to devolve.
The Precursors ground themselves down into dust near the end of the Forerunner-Precursor war and then Humans found them(at this point corrupted). Together the Humans and the San' Shyuum executed experiments with said dust. From there the situation went from good to bad really quickly and the flood was truly born. So the Forerunners were the reason the Precursors ground themselves down to begin with, but ultimately it was the Humans and San' Shyuum who caused it to be released. Basically it was a group effort. (Sorry for the year late reply. Hopefully you already found this out.)
Unknown. But it has been implied that those who ultimately pressed the button to activate the Halo Array, on the Ark, decided to leave the galaxy and restart somewhere else.
A good number survived, though the Librarian wasn't one of them. She died on Earth. The Librarian we encounter in Halo 4 was an imprint, an AI copy if you will, of the Librarian. As for survivors, the IsoDidact (basically a clone of the Didact) along with a number of Warriors and Lifeworkers (possibly more) survived the array's firing from the Ark and oversaw the reseeding of the Galaxy. Afterwards, they left on a "Great Journey" (this is where the Covenant got their idea of the Great Journey from, though obviously a twisted version) and left the Milky Way. The common theory is that they went to Path Kethona, the Large Magellanic Cloud, a microgalaxy the orbits our own.
FirestarterGaming Both can technically be correct. An infirmary is a location to house the sick or injured, which a medbay would be. Technically speaking, though, when it comes to a ship, the medical area would be called a sickbay. But, I'm not all that sure it matters.
ok cus of that crossover story I'm writing, and I didn't want to get it wrong, and trigger the sensitive people...... you know cause people are sensitive sometimes. yeah
Well, this changed alot of what I thought I knew. If there were Forerunners in the satellite galaxy than they could have survived to modern day being outside the range of the Halo Array. So the Forerunners knew about the great danger of the Flood and started building the Halos before the Forerunner-Flood war even began? That's probably the biggest revelation cause I always thought they had no idea about the Flood and the extent of the danger it represents till it was too late to alter the tide of the war. Now I have so many questions. Guess I'll have to wait till your next Halo Story video. Or maybe I'll find out once I get to reading the Forerunner Saga books.
The Forerunners had a war with Ancient Humanity. The war was started because humanity encountered the flood, and began trying to wipe it from the face of the galaxy. Instead of warning the forerunners, they attacked flood wherever they were, which included on forerunner worlds. The forerunners thought humanity was raging war against them, and so retaliated. After the war however, the forerunners discovered that it was the flood that humanity had been trying to fight, so in turn the forerunners started to get things ready in case the flood ever returned
Mecha-san I don't so. I think humanity understood the threat. I believe humanity did try to sterilize any flood outbreaks they happened upon. The forerunners thought they were waging war on them though, not the flood and so retaliated. After the war, the forerunners found out it was the flood the humans had been trying to fight/sterilize, not the forerunners
Fucking awesome Halo Canon! Quick question. In H2's epilogue when the Gravemind says "Silence fills the empty grave..." Is that a reference to Mendicant Bias's remains on the Dreadnought now absent? Or rephrased, did the Gravemind know his former thrall was there?
It was more just the Gravemind being the Gravemind. It could be a reference to the MB fragment that had once been on High Charity, but it's hard to say. I'd honestly never given it too much thought until now.
He suspects so, but at the very end, he says he had found "the Lifeshaper". The Librarian had passed her title on to another Forerunner, Chant-to-Green, before she died. It's likely, then, that who Chakas found is Chant, or another Forerunner Chant passed her title on to.
Can you explain something that confused me when I last watched the Halo 4 terminals. We see what looks like a bronze age tribe of humanity with the Librarian and Didact floating among them. Then in the next episode we see Humanity still in starships as the last few surrender to the forerunners. I had always assumed that they simply removed a generation of children and raised them without technology but how can that be if there are bronze age humans and technologically advanced humans living concurrently? What exactly did the forerunners do to them?
The terminal timelines jump around a lot, so it can be confusing. Basically, you're seeing what happened to Humanity after the war, then flashing back again to during the war or when Humanity was defeated.
was the Primordial a GraveMind or pure precursor ? also the Primordial seemed to think that the Flood where the next step in evolution for the Galaxy, if he was still a Pure Precursor, he would know that the Flood were a abomination, and that when his people turned them self into dust it got contaminated and made the Flood but if he was a GraveMind, how did that happen ? he never turned him self into dust
The primordial was a bit of both. If I remember correctly he never actually believed it was the next step in evolution but in fact saw it as an abomination. However he saw this is as the perfect way to punish the forerunners and make sure no one betrayed the precursors ever again.....
What deltahalo241 said, though to answer your question, probably about a month of work, most of it on the opening. The Forerunner Terminal style of presentation was the easier part to make.
Bugeye0704 I originally intended to be much further along than I am. Hopefully I can keep this up going forward. Ideally, I'd like to get one every month or so.
Dude the editing on this video is insane! Without sounding extremely patronising, good fucking job!
Thanks, mate :)
New format it's on point Ian.
It's actually part 7 of a series that's taken far too long to resume:
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Ive been waiting for these to resume, keep up the great work Toa! Can't wait to see the next one.
Its amazing that the Forerunners had lifespans of thousands of years and that for them, their urgency to defeat the flood was over thousands of years while the UNSC had wiped out the Flood in just 20 years...
Haven't seen one of these in awhile.
thank you so much for coming back with these!!
There's something I don't understand, I hope someone can help me with this:
In the books they say that the Didact was moved to Earth (the Cryptum) but in the terminals of the game (H4) they say that he was on Requiem... So... What am i missing??
The Didact's original cryptum (not the one in Halo 4) was moved to Earth by the Librarian during his exile centuries before the Forerunner-Flood War. He was seal in a combat Cryptum in Requiem at the end of the Forerunner-Flood War.
I love the visual format of this video!
Great video, Halo Canon. Keep it up with this astounding new material.
I like the format, but the filter in your audio bothers me =/
Ah you've brought this back. How long has it been since the last one? 😂 A good few months at least. In any case, another great lore video and hopefully you'll be coming back to this series.
January was the last one, and it started in 2014. Only took 2 years to get to part 7 XD
+Halo Canon Better late than never I suppose. XD
When I started at Halo I imagined the forerunners as peaceful race...
Now they come out as Dicks...
killed the precursors...Almost killed the humans and San shyuum
Much more.......
And Stole the mantle of responsibility
While that's partially true, the Forerunner's are the definition of nuance. They're a very complicated subject.
At first I was like what does forerunner mean? Then I thought they were human.
+KILLimanjaro Unfriggenbelievable forerunner more or less mean firstborn in Latin. think the Forerunners and ancient humanity as siblings.
+KILLimanjaro Unfriggenbelievable forerunner more or less mean firstborn in Latin. think the Forerunners and ancient humanity as siblings.
i for one would like some more live streams with you Ian :)
12 Halos? I thought there're 7 of them with the Ark.
There was an original array of 12, 30,000 km diameter rings. The 7 rings we know of for the final array are a separate array, which I'll go more into more detail about in the next part of the story.
OK...
Beatrice Neniute It's a long story
Halo Canon Well... you'll do more information in the next part of the story. Can't deny that.
Beatrice Neniute Well, I'll try to sum it up:
Essentially, when the Halo array was first built, there were 12 Halos and an Ark (which was bigger than the Ark we saw in Halo 3). Later, a second Ark was built (called the Lesser Ark since it was smaller). This Ark built small Halo rings (10k km vs. 30k km) but ones that fixed a number of problems from the original array and were over all more efficient.
Without getting into detail,11 of the original 12 rings were destroyed during the Forerunner-Flood War, along with the greater Ark (the original Ark). The last remaining Halo of the original 12-ring array became Installation 07 for the final array (it was also shrunk down from 30k km diameter to 10k). The 6 rings built by the lesser Ark were then distributed and activated.
So, that's a heavily abridged version, but there you go.
Halo Canon are gonna check out the Halo Wars 2 vidoc? they give out more info about the story and is very interesting
Great stuff mate, now I'm really hungry for more :o
I really love your lore/story videos, so awesome to watch!
Just read primordium and silentinum. Good books. Highly recomend them
I have had a question I have had been itching to ask and I do wonder if 343 will reply to that.... Or allow me to do some cannon for it.
Since Forerunners beat Humanity and devolve them into what they were. Where did all the Human ships, weapons, and tech go off too.
The old saying go's "the spoils of war go's too the victor". When we beat Germany, Japan, and Italy in WWII we had a huge tech boost because of them. But since Forerunners thought they were superior already but had a little trouble beating the Humans but still won, they would feel no need to update their tech to out class humans since they think their superior.
But all this useful tech would be interesting to study and Forerunners could have built a shield world to house all Human ships and weapons as like a Museum, to show how vastly superior they are, until the flood comes along.
I don't know, it would be awesome if the unsc found some ancient human tech.
The Forerunners wiped all evidence of the Ancient Human civilization from the Galaxy. Well, as best they could. Some of it survived here and there. In Halo Legends, The Babysitter, that planet is implied to have ruins from Ancient Humanity. The Hellcat armor in Halo 5 is also based on Ancient Human armor.
+Halo Canon Woahwoahwoah holdup. How much does ONI know about the ancient humans and forerunners then? Obviously not as much as we do but do they know about the war? The Precursors?
Amaz1ngWhale Well, two of the books in the Forerunner Saga have in-universe counterparts. Halo Cryptum is "The Bornstellar Relation", and Halo Silentium was recovered from the body of a Catalog found in Trevelyan. So, ONI know quite a bit about ancient Humanity, the Flood, Forerunners, and even Precursors.
But the question is where all the ancient Human weapons, ships, and tech disappeared off too. they wouldn't leave the stuff for the devolved Humans to find. And Forerunners would be interested in how Humans were able to stand toe to toe to them. I mean they killed most of the Precursors. which are like gods.
Great work! I really enjoy these videos.
I love these videos man, plz make more
Part 8 coming in over a year in a half
You should continue this!
how did the forerunner devolve the humans? Did they win the human forerunner war?
The Forerunners won, yes. How Humans were devolved, exactly, I can't say, but the books goes into some detail. In essence, the Forerunners somehow forced Human DNA to revert to older "forms", some members even being consciously aware of this change. Over a few generations, they were primitives again.
Ultimate Knight the humans had been attacked by the flood first forced into forerunner space weakened by the flood the forerunner ran them to another Galaxy I to exile causeing them to devolve.
very nice video... keep up the good work.
nice video man. well done!!!
Haven't seen this format in a while...
I know, i really like this halo 3 terminal format
so the forerunners made the flood
The Precursors ground themselves down into dust near the end of the Forerunner-Precursor war and then Humans found them(at this point corrupted). Together the Humans and the San' Shyuum executed experiments with said dust. From there the situation went from good to bad really quickly and the flood was truly born.
So the Forerunners were the reason the Precursors ground themselves down to begin with, but ultimately it was the Humans and San' Shyuum who caused it to be released.
Basically it was a group effort.
(Sorry for the year late reply. Hopefully you already found this out.)
Which video is the next part of the story? Amazing job so far 👍🏻
Did any forerunners other than the Didact and the Librarian and the ine in Halo 5 survive after the activation of the Halo array?
Unknown. But it has been implied that those who ultimately pressed the button to activate the Halo Array, on the Ark, decided to leave the galaxy and restart somewhere else.
A good number survived, though the Librarian wasn't one of them. She died on Earth. The Librarian we encounter in Halo 4 was an imprint, an AI copy if you will, of the Librarian.
As for survivors, the IsoDidact (basically a clone of the Didact) along with a number of Warriors and Lifeworkers (possibly more) survived the array's firing from the Ark and oversaw the reseeding of the Galaxy. Afterwards, they left on a "Great Journey" (this is where the Covenant got their idea of the Great Journey from, though obviously a twisted version) and left the Milky Way. The common theory is that they went to Path Kethona, the Large Magellanic Cloud, a microgalaxy the orbits our own.
Halo Canon Thank you for telling me :)
I wish the Librarian had survived though.
so this is the second ark from halo wars 2?
lesser ark is is where halo wars 2 set and it's also the same ark as halo 3
yes, the first one, known as the greater ark, was destroyed by the flood and their precursor tech
+shlomo shekelstein thanks, they should make halo six or other halos related to this ark in the future
The greater Ark, the original Ark if you will, was destroyed. Only the lesser Ark, Installation 00, remains.
Well that's a new format
Not all that new, just took a long time to get back to it:
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Hi I just wanted to say that you are awesome!
nice new formate for these at least other have to see it
It's actually a very old format that hasn't been used in a while. This is part 7 in a series.
I think you should do the lore videos like this maybe more pictures lol
It's hard to find the right images for some of this stuff, but I do try.
+Halo Canon hey, I have a question is it medbay or infirmary or whatever term you would you use for a medical part of the ship
FirestarterGaming Both can technically be correct. An infirmary is a location to house the sick or injured, which a medbay would be. Technically speaking, though, when it comes to a ship, the medical area would be called a sickbay. But, I'm not all that sure it matters.
ok cus of that crossover story I'm writing, and I didn't want to get it wrong, and trigger the sensitive people...... you know cause people are sensitive sometimes. yeah
I think the forerunners got what they deserved
Well, this changed alot of what I thought I knew. If there were Forerunners in the satellite galaxy than they could have survived to modern day being outside the range of the Halo Array.
So the Forerunners knew about the great danger of the Flood and started building the Halos before the Forerunner-Flood war even began? That's probably the biggest revelation cause I always thought they had no idea about the Flood and the extent of the danger it represents till it was too late to alter the tide of the war.
Now I have so many questions. Guess I'll have to wait till your next Halo Story video. Or maybe I'll find out once I get to reading the Forerunner Saga books.
sadly the forerunners in the satilliete galaxy are likely dead. one of the rings had to be fired at it during the last stand against the flood.
That's a possibility. But not a certainty.
Need actual confirmation of that. Till then, its just hopeful thinking.
The Forerunners had a war with Ancient Humanity. The war was started because humanity encountered the flood, and began trying to wipe it from the face of the galaxy. Instead of warning the forerunners, they attacked flood wherever they were, which included on forerunner worlds. The forerunners thought humanity was raging war against them, and so retaliated. After the war however, the forerunners discovered that it was the flood that humanity had been trying to fight, so in turn the forerunners started to get things ready in case the flood ever returned
When the first outbreak happened, they underestimated the threat or were simply hesitant to sterilize a whole planet of theirs?
Mecha-san
I don't so. I think humanity understood the threat. I believe humanity did try to sterilize any flood outbreaks they happened upon. The forerunners thought they were waging war on them though, not the flood and so retaliated. After the war, the forerunners found out it was the flood the humans had been trying to fight/sterilize, not the forerunners
Fucking awesome Halo Canon! Quick question. In H2's epilogue when the Gravemind says "Silence fills the empty grave..." Is that a reference to Mendicant Bias's remains on the Dreadnought now absent? Or rephrased, did the Gravemind know his former thrall was there?
It was more just the Gravemind being the Gravemind. It could be a reference to the MB fragment that had once been on High Charity, but it's hard to say. I'd honestly never given it too much thought until now.
It's about time! Jk but it's good to see another vid like this thanks.
No, let's be fare, it is about damn time :)
YAY! I love these!
isn't the Librarian suspected to be alive per chakras/343?
He suspects so, but at the very end, he says he had found "the Lifeshaper". The Librarian had passed her title on to another Forerunner, Chant-to-Green, before she died. It's likely, then, that who Chakas found is Chant, or another Forerunner Chant passed her title on to.
Can you explain something that confused me when I last watched the Halo 4 terminals. We see what looks like a bronze age tribe of humanity with the Librarian and Didact floating among them. Then in the next episode we see Humanity still in starships as the last few surrender to the forerunners. I had always assumed that they simply removed a generation of children and raised them without technology but how can that be if there are bronze age humans and technologically advanced humans living concurrently? What exactly did the forerunners do to them?
The terminal timelines jump around a lot, so it can be confusing. Basically, you're seeing what happened to Humanity after the war, then flashing back again to during the war or when Humanity was defeated.
Okay thanks.
nice video
was the Primordial a GraveMind or pure precursor ?
also the Primordial seemed to think that the Flood where the next step in evolution for the Galaxy, if he was still a Pure Precursor, he would know that the Flood were a abomination, and that when his people turned them self into dust it got contaminated and made the Flood
but if he was a GraveMind, how did that happen ? he never turned him self into dust
From what I've heard he was kinda in the middle
The primordial was a bit of both. If I remember correctly he never actually believed it was the next step in evolution but in fact saw it as an abomination. However he saw this is as the perfect way to punish the forerunners and make sure no one betrayed the precursors ever again.....
***** Exactly.
Halo Canon what do you think or Halo Legends Origins 1 & 2.
Love both of them
When do you think we'll hear about the Greater Ark?
+Vicinity 117 well I think it would still be interesting to know it's timeline, don't you? :)
The Forerunners pretty much had their last stand at the Greater Ark so you'll probably hear more about it soon.
I'll be covering that in the next part (which is all about the Forerunner-Flood War).
Halo Canon I so wish they made a game set during the Forerunner-Flood war
Dope.
117 Likes I dont want to ruin this
If you had a forerunner monitor name, what would it be?
2609 Early Skeptic
420 dankest bot
+Sugarstu Ooh! I like that one!
809 Advent Recluse
+Halo Canon What about mine?!
Cool layout, but I've never been a fan of blue and gold...
me neither...
To each their own. In this case, I'm simply emulating the style of the Halo 3 terminals as we recount the time of the Forerunners.
60,000!!!
For the sound effect, did you record this in your bathroom? ;D
Spicycarrot123 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Jesus how much time did you spend on that new format?
It's actually an old format, he's picking a series he didn't finish back up.
+deltahalo241 oh that's cool.
What deltahalo241 said, though to answer your question, probably about a month of work, most of it on the opening. The Forerunner Terminal style of presentation was the easier part to make.
+Halo Canon I like it you should use it more often, especially since you put a month into it.
Bugeye0704 I originally intended to be much further along than I am. Hopefully I can keep this up going forward. Ideally, I'd like to get one every month or so.
I dont really like the new format dont like how you changed your voice and just seems weird.
it's a old format he did a long time ago.
This is part of a series. Every episode has this format.
Lol that format tho *cringe
+HaloCannon there is new footage of halo wars 2 has surfaced