the second opinion hit so hard. seventeen are my ults, but they went through what no group should ever have to go through. they had to buy their own equipment, tape earbuds to their ears because pledis didn’t get them earpieces, create their own choreo, produce and write their own songs, and the staff was very rough with them (rumors of physical violence, there’s a video of wonwoo getting reprimanded because he spoke in dialect and he looks nervous). they had to fend for themselves for so damn long and they built themselves up from nothing. they’re hard workers and they’ve achieved their dream, but no other group should ever have to go through this. pledis couldn’t support them because the company was broke, so the boys suffered. don’t cast trainees and debut them if you can’t give them what they need.
4:27 I think Kep1er would gain lots of publicity in Queendom and that would benefit the members after disband. 7:31 NMIXX's debut song wasn't even that bad it just had a bad transition between the two themes in the song, their comeback will be better. Also can we talk about how JYP keeps getting attacked for the companies mistreatment with the idols, just because its named after him doesn't mean he's in charge!!😒
@@feloniousgru1404 Sorry I didn't see your reply. I'm bad at explaining but he did a lot of things like cultural appropriation, blackface and more. He even took Wonder girls to R.Kelly's house while they were minors. He's honestly disgusting.
about purple kiss- i wish theyd get recognition for their songwriting and composing skills outside the fandom too :< girlies deserve sm better i wish they get their big break soon
@@angelflorence yg treasure! they have a very strong vocal line, i suggest you to listen to a few of their songs or just covers. bang yedam has been singing for all his life and his technique extremely good, and overall each member has a unique voice tone.
Not a bahi stan or a kepler fan but I understand her solo stan toxic or not. That girl keep being discredited,dragged and hate on in a daily basis, if they want her out of kepler it's their right since she never get anything from the company managing her, she is one of the most popular member and all she is in kepler is a filler member, I think she deserve a better company. But over all that fandom I'd the downfall of the girls,hiyyih has a big fandom and the others keep hating them instead of working out their differences for the sake of the group but they don't and hiyyih stan in all honesty put bahi in the worst position ,why? Well I did saw her stages and her expressions and her vocal and I must agree she isn't that great,it's not like she is the worst idol to debut and if the company did manage to give her some spotlight and not burying her they may be satisfied but because she get nothing they keep boosting her talents which in reality are not that amazing(am just being honest here) in the end if she get more line and mess up her stage she will be dragged severely and traumatised so it's better if her stan stop acting like she is an ace because obviously she is not but push more for recognition and more screen time. She isn't a good dancer,her vocals aren't the best,and tho she did improve a lot in her stage presence she still look awkward and robotic. Just give her time they have 2 years and she will find her image but yall need to stop pressuring her to be that all rounder if she doesn't feel at ease on stage.
?? in vocals she’s the 2-3 best singer in kepler based on technique so if her vocals “arent that good” then keep the energy for the other members. she’s also a good dancer that is able to keep up with group not to mention her stage presence is more than okay if her fancams consistently have 150k+ more views than the rest of the girls. and she goes viral weekly whenever she performs so again, her stage presence is doing fine. hiyyih might not be the strongest idol but im tired of people constantly making her out to be the least talented or skilled when thats clearly not the case.
@Lovely Gina as an actual vocalist myself this actually frustrates me because so much misinformation has been put out and yall just be eating that shit up. hiyyih and youngeun aren’t far apart in technique which says a lot considering youngeun is constantly praised for her singing and for being a main vocal potential. Bahiyyih sings with little to no strain(the only other person in this group that does that is Chae). She also has a connected range and know how to mix properly for notes higher in her register. Her head voice is very clear and developed. hiyyih also has a wide vocal range, a resonant tone. she’s technically better than youngeun. and what hiyyihlight pushes her as an ace? people just love to push hiyyih as a weaker member that when they find out she’s not they immediately classify that as putting her on a pedestal, she outsings 99% of the group. stage presence is subjective for the most part and she’s doing more than okay in that department for the vast majority.
the entire pk vocal line is so strong, you have the unique voices of swan and chaein then the common main vocal voice through go eun but it's rly strong and well-developed and then you have the entirety of PK being perfect vocalists (lead vocalist material esp. in 4rth gen) and beyond their vocal line you have some great 4rth gen dancers through dosie, ireh, and chaein and then great rappers as well (Yuki and Chaein) you have a strong group, and not to forget how they've self-produced and choreographed a lot of their releases... they're a strong group
i have to disagree at some points of the queendom opinion. while i agree abt viviz and wjsn, brave girls and kep1er will benefit from q2 : brave girls is mostly known in korea for their song rollin and not as a group, while kep1er don’t chart well in korea, especially as a Mnet survival show group. charting 90# on melon is not amazing.
WM is treating Chaeyeon like how JYP treated Somi after IOI disbanded and also like how YG is treating BlackPink. And I don’t think it’s a good thing at all
I would agree that purple kiss has one of the best vocalines in 4th gen if not the best. Main competitors for me is probably Weeekly tbh. Weeeklys vocalists are also so good.
@@arstan8092 dude go watch any vocal ranking and you will see I work as a part-time vocal coach as part of my club activities and really neither weekly nor purple kiss are that great there are basics like techniques lower, upper mixed registers, heady and chesty development, support of course in the registers, wide ranges, belting... and they really aren't as great there is only one group that I know off and I've followed their vocals who really are better than both of them combined and it's aespa and that's it
@@eulalia3468 did not know vocal coaches was this unnecessarily rude level of blunt, aespas vocals are for sure the strongest in 4th gen sadly they are never allowed to show it live almost, (ofc that is a overall issue with most groups these days) i have watched many vocal rankings most of them have praised Monday and weeekly quite highly for 4th gen groups even if I agree they are not as good as any of the greats in 3rd gen. I have not seen your name around though and I have no actual evidence of you being a vocal coach. If you do then sure send vids that prove that claim. To many people faking there are without anything backing it up.
@@arstan8092 lol wth I ain't rude I was just explaining sorry if my honesty bothered your fantasy, and btw send what exactly? wth are you ok? what do you want me to send dude hhhhhhhhh, videos of what exactly? hhhhh I ain't lying and my analysis proves it easily, if you don't believe it's your problem, what am I supposed to send hhhhhh and who are you to send you anything, not every vocal coach is supposed to do videos and vocal analysis lol are you ok? I ain't rude I am blunt that's it
the WM trainees left after RBW bought the company stock? or something? i don't really understand, it's something like that. things has been messy since then, not just trainees but the other artists too.. WM kind of changed a lot.. want to add, about eunsang, he will debut soon in a new group called YOUNITE please look forward to it!
as an ot9 hiyyihlight I LITERALLY AGREE OMG. and on twt every time someone calls those hiyyihlight akgaes out they call ppl hiyyih antis or fake hiyyihlights… it’s so annoying
Honestly agreed with everything here, especially the purplekiss, ive, and nmixx opinions. Swan is seriously insanely talented, especially from someone who came from a company where the goal is the make carbon copies, not individual artists, and I love hearing her voice in ALL their songs. I didn't even like MEMEME that much but Swan's "eye" part after the chorus is MMMM delicious thank youu.
Ok if people understand a bit about vocals (part time vocal coach here) purple kiss doesn't have the best vocal line this generation it's absolutely definitely and no arguments is aespa from techniques to support in mixed lower and upper rigesters, heasy and chesty developments, wide ranges ( Ningning has the widest range I've seen in the whole kpop industry in the lower register), tones, vibrato...
Gonna say it. I've defended hiyyih on several occasions but she gives off such gloomy and sad vibes. Her smiles are always forced. It's kinda annoying.
bro i hateee bhaiyih stans toooo lmaoooo. not all of them jsut the annoying ones. ive even seen some of them say they shouldve given her xiatoting lines cuz she got 2nd place and xiao got 9th
The thing is...a group can be extremely talented but if they don't have good music it makes it harder to stan LOL If a group/soloist has music I don't like, if they don't have a show or vlog a lot then I lose interest fast. Talent is not enough to stand out when there are hundreds of other groups lol. Its impossible for us to stan everyone and for everyone to be popular. Sadly someone has to be on the bottom. Anyways I'm interested in NMix. I'm waiting for their comeback to see if I wanna stan or not because their B side is trash 🤧
1. Not only Bahiyyih, fans in general can severely turn you off from a group. And solo stans (the bad ones. As someone who was a solo Hoshi stan for years before I actually got into the group some solo stans are chill) can really make you dislike someone. With me, I only liked Lisa from Blackpink (not that I disliked the rest I just paid more attention to Lisa) her toxic solo stans are just so unbearable. And they’re EVERYWHERE!!! Some groups (like bts. They have a a lot of toxic army but I personally don’t see them all the time unlike blonks) you can go with only seeing maybe a couple toxic people every once in a while but it’s hard NOT seeing crazy Lisa stans. I don’t see a lot of Kep1er content but all I hear is negativity from Bahiyyih stans and it’s starting to turn me off. 7. Purple Kiss!! I wish people talked about them more! Not to bring down other 4th gen groups because I like them as well but when it comes to rap and vocals, PK just sounds more experienced in my opinion. I was SHOCKED to find out that they were rookies. They have amazing discography, amazing raps, GOD TIER vocals and amazing presence. I wish they had so much more hype. And even my friends who aren’t into kpop that well can’t help but listen to them because they’re so good 😭
about nmixx - you are totally wrong. no one hates the girls. they hate the song! everyone knows how talented these girls are. we've all seen their predebut videos. people are only mad at jype for giving a song like that to girls as talented as they are. because it doesn't really showcase their vocal skills
i cant fully agree with the second opinion since BTS literally came from a bankrupt agency when they debuted. i think some of these agencies rly wanna make their own music and sound w/ kpop and pull a bts
lmao I'm sorry I don't care at all for this video but I have to call out the melodramatic ass thumbnail. "speaking my truth" girl u ain't a victim lmao
Honestly, Bahiyyih is not that good. Because of that she ends up being a filler member. The filler members are usually the members that aren't particularly good at anything.she ended up in the group because she is popular not because of her talent. This is very common for basically all k-pop groups, almost every K-pop group has a member that is lacking in every field. And that is ok. I think the problem with her stans is that they think that she is everything, they think that she is the baddest bitch in this group. They refuse to acknowledge that she has any kind of flaws and that she is in this position because of those flaws. They want her to be the center of attention all the time, but she is just not there yet. She is not at that point where she can get a lot of lines or a decent amount of lines. She is not at that point where she can be in centre for decent amount of time. She is simply just not ready yet. That's why she's in the background all the time. Kep1er is really good for her because it helps her get experience, so when she does get into a permanent group, she'll be one of the top members talent wise, experience wise, and she'll have more confidence. Right now she is learning. That's literally all I think her fans are misunderstanding.
babes youre entire comment was just a load of bullshit. as a vocalist myself yall really gotta stop speaking when it’s obvious you dont know anything in that field. hiyyih outsings literally 99% of the group 💀 hiyyih and youngeun aren’t far apart in technique which says a lot considering youngeun is constantly praised for her singing and for being a main vocal potential. Bahiyyih sings with little to no strain(the only other person in this group that does that is Chae). She also has a connected range and know how to mix properly for notes higher in her register. Her head voice is very clear and developed. hiyyih also has a wide vocal range, a resonant tone. she’s also a good dancer thats just in a group with stronger dancers. the fact that youre upset at people hyping hiyyih up by calling her a bad bitch is weirdo behaviour love. she’s in the background because wakeone is shit and favours certain members. she obviously is the main attraction and attention since she’s living in all yalls heads rent free. she has good stage presence, can sing and dance well so she can very much handle centre time.
hiyyih literally is popular for her talent..why the fuck do you think she has so many stans when msnake wouldn’t even give her more than 30 secs of speaking? wonder why her fancam views are so high? hiyyih got her fans from her talent and the hate she got. idk why you’re speaking on a fandom youre not even in. hiyyih IS the baddest bitch and she will continue to outsell! 🥰
@@thelazyarmy9707 the fact that thats the only thing you had to say from my comment tells me you know youre wrong. you just look goofy babes. bahiyyih was an attention point all throughout gp999 it didnt matter how much screentime she got because her fans always found other ways to get new content. why do you think her fancam views were always among the highest, if not the highest? bahiyyih debuting just proves my point even more cuz it shows that bahiyyih didnt just gain attention/hype for being kais sister. even now she’s by far the most popular member, this shows she wasnt being carried by moas. data was released that showed that people searched hiyyih up more as bahiyyih /huening bahiyyih than kai’s sister. bahiyyih is a valuable asset to kepler both talent and marketing wise. if you really want to pull the “there were better contestants” bs than pull that shit for the rest of the group
Honestly purple kiss does has the best vocal line but still ppl are like nmixx and aespa are the best just because they're being biased. I know Ningning is one of the best vocalist of 4th gen and winter too and about nmixx only lily has a powerful voice others are just average with great visuals. This is my unpopular opinion but nmixx doesn't has the best vocals of all time just because of one member (lily) tho are very talented. And purple kiss has the best vocal lines in 4th gen.
@@brandonscipio8572 it's not about who all can sing, rapper can sing but that doesn't means the group is best in vocals I'm talking about best vocal lines!
sorry but lilly isnt the only above average vocalist in nmixx. haewon too is rlly close to lilly and and sullyoon, jiwoo, kyujin all have amazing vocals. literally everyone in nmixx supports
i love how ive made a new song that is different from eleven but they maintained their 'sound' ykwim
the second opinion hit so hard. seventeen are my ults, but they went through what no group should ever have to go through. they had to buy their own equipment, tape earbuds to their ears because pledis didn’t get them earpieces, create their own choreo, produce and write their own songs, and the staff was very rough with them (rumors of physical violence, there’s a video of wonwoo getting reprimanded because he spoke in dialect and he looks nervous). they had to fend for themselves for so damn long and they built themselves up from nothing. they’re hard workers and they’ve achieved their dream, but no other group should ever have to go through this. pledis couldn’t support them because the company was broke, so the boys suffered. don’t cast trainees and debut them if you can’t give them what they need.
Toxic Bahiyyih stans ain’t it. But Bahiyyih? She’s the Queen 👑👑👑
Periodt 😩💅 stan bahiyyih for clear skin
4:27 I think Kep1er would gain lots of publicity in Queendom and that would benefit the members after disband.
7:31 NMIXX's debut song wasn't even that bad it just had a bad transition between the two themes in the song, their comeback will be better.
Also can we talk about how JYP keeps getting attacked for the companies mistreatment with the idols, just because its named after him doesn't mean he's in charge!!😒
I agree to all you say especially the JYP one I'm even defending him to the haters/fans
@@davidmarclouiseencabo8072 yes!!
Yeah JYP shouldn't be blamed for all of the mistreatement but he's a shitty person too so the hate is justified
@@Dreamer-sz9cu what did he do
@@feloniousgru1404 Sorry I didn't see your reply. I'm bad at explaining but he did a lot of things like cultural appropriation, blackface and more. He even took Wonder girls to R.Kelly's house while they were minors. He's honestly disgusting.
about purple kiss- i wish theyd get recognition for their songwriting and composing skills outside the fandom too :< girlies deserve sm better i wish they get their big break soon
100% agree with everything you said !!!
Thank you for your manifestation, 'cause Chaeyeon just debuted! And NMIXX arguably has a better vocal line
for the purple kiss vocal line, I would say aespa is really close, both have the best vocal line in 4th gen. just my opinion 🥲🤝🏻
Along with Treasure
@@angelflorence yg treasure! they have a very strong vocal line, i suggest you to listen to a few of their songs or just covers. bang yedam has been singing for all his life and his technique extremely good, and overall each member has a unique voice tone.
@@nicolerapetti5122 is a boy group, here we're talking about gg
@@bidisha4325 op asked about treasure, so i gave them an explanation of the group.
@@nicolerapetti5122 sorry lol i tagged you 😭
actually the chaeyeon part, i dont think shes still under WM after SWF cause she hasnt had brand deals after the show
Not a bahi stan or a kepler fan but I understand her solo stan toxic or not. That girl keep being discredited,dragged and hate on in a daily basis, if they want her out of kepler it's their right since she never get anything from the company managing her, she is one of the most popular member and all she is in kepler is a filler member, I think she deserve a better company. But over all that fandom I'd the downfall of the girls,hiyyih has a big fandom and the others keep hating them instead of working out their differences for the sake of the group but they don't and hiyyih stan in all honesty put bahi in the worst position ,why? Well I did saw her stages and her expressions and her vocal and I must agree she isn't that great,it's not like she is the worst idol to debut and if the company did manage to give her some spotlight and not burying her they may be satisfied but because she get nothing they keep boosting her talents which in reality are not that amazing(am just being honest here) in the end if she get more line and mess up her stage she will be dragged severely and traumatised so it's better if her stan stop acting like she is an ace because obviously she is not but push more for recognition and more screen time. She isn't a good dancer,her vocals aren't the best,and tho she did improve a lot in her stage presence she still look awkward and robotic. Just give her time they have 2 years and she will find her image but yall need to stop pressuring her to be that all rounder if she doesn't feel at ease on stage.
?? in vocals she’s the 2-3 best singer in kepler based on technique so if her vocals “arent that good” then keep the energy for the other members. she’s also a good dancer that is able to keep up with group not to mention her stage presence is more than okay if her fancams consistently have 150k+ more views than the rest of the girls. and she goes viral weekly whenever she performs so again, her stage presence is doing fine. hiyyih might not be the strongest idol but im tired of people constantly making her out to be the least talented or skilled when thats clearly not the case.
@Lovely Gina as an actual vocalist myself this actually frustrates me because so much misinformation has been put out and yall just be eating that shit up. hiyyih and youngeun aren’t far apart in technique which says a lot considering youngeun is constantly praised for her singing and for being a main vocal potential. Bahiyyih sings with little to no strain(the only other person in this group that does that is Chae). She also has a connected range and know how to mix properly for notes higher in her register. Her head voice is very clear and developed. hiyyih also has a wide vocal range, a resonant tone. she’s technically better than youngeun. and what hiyyihlight pushes her as an ace? people just love to push hiyyih as a weaker member that when they find out she’s not they immediately classify that as putting her on a pedestal, she outsings 99% of the group. stage presence is subjective for the most part and she’s doing more than okay in that department for the vast majority.
the entire pk vocal line is so strong, you have the unique voices of swan and chaein then the common main vocal voice through go eun but it's rly strong and well-developed and then you have the entirety of PK being perfect vocalists (lead vocalist material esp. in 4rth gen) and beyond their vocal line you have some great 4rth gen dancers through dosie, ireh, and chaein and then great rappers as well (Yuki and Chaein) you have a strong group, and not to forget how they've self-produced and choreographed a lot of their releases... they're a strong group
i have to disagree at some points of the queendom opinion. while i agree abt viviz and wjsn, brave girls and kep1er will benefit from q2 : brave girls is mostly known in korea for their song rollin and not as a group, while kep1er don’t chart well in korea, especially as a Mnet survival show group. charting 90# on melon is not amazing.
WM is treating Chaeyeon like how JYP treated Somi after IOI disbanded and also like how YG is treating BlackPink. And I don’t think it’s a good thing at all
Right please I hate small companies that have no budget yet still debut a group
aespa best 4th gen vocal line to those who actually know something about vocals 💀
Ppl r treating it like bahiyi is apart from the group at this point its hard to associate her with kep1ler
I would agree that purple kiss has one of the best vocalines in 4th gen if not the best. Main competitors for me is probably Weeekly tbh. Weeeklys vocalists are also so good.
Weekly can't even support, Monday isn't as great as people portray her to be she can't support due to her limited range
@@eulalia3468 absolutely insane take but you do you i guess
@@arstan8092 dude go watch any vocal ranking and you will see I work as a part-time vocal coach as part of my club activities and really neither weekly nor purple kiss are that great there are basics like techniques lower, upper mixed registers, heady and chesty development, support of course in the registers, wide ranges, belting... and they really aren't as great there is only one group that I know off and I've followed their vocals who really are better than both of them combined and it's aespa and that's it
@@eulalia3468 did not know vocal coaches was this unnecessarily rude level of blunt, aespas vocals are for sure the strongest in 4th gen sadly they are never allowed to show it live almost, (ofc that is a overall issue with most groups these days) i have watched many vocal rankings most of them have praised Monday and weeekly quite highly for 4th gen groups even if I agree they are not as good as any of the greats in 3rd gen. I have not seen your name around though and I have no actual evidence of you being a vocal coach. If you do then sure send vids that prove that claim. To many people faking there are without anything backing it up.
@@arstan8092 lol wth I ain't rude I was just explaining sorry if my honesty bothered your fantasy, and btw send what exactly? wth are you ok? what do you want me to send dude hhhhhhhhh, videos of what exactly? hhhhh I ain't lying and my analysis proves it easily, if you don't believe it's your problem, what am I supposed to send hhhhhh and who are you to send you anything, not every vocal coach is supposed to do videos and vocal analysis lol are you ok? I ain't rude I am blunt that's it
poor bian😢 deserves so much more she's easily one of the best 4th gen dancers but bc of her company she gets no recognition
Majors just had a cb last week, maybe you want to check them out if you haven't
@@blank6113 yep I already did
the WM trainees left after RBW bought the company stock? or something? i don't really understand, it's something like that. things has been messy since then, not just trainees but the other artists too.. WM kind of changed a lot..
want to add, about eunsang, he will debut soon in a new group called YOUNITE please look forward to it!
as an ot9 hiyyihlight I LITERALLY AGREE OMG. and on twt every time someone calls those hiyyihlight akgaes out they call ppl hiyyih antis or fake hiyyihlights… it’s so annoying
2:46 i'm really confused i thought chaeyeon was a part of stone ent?
Honestly agreed with everything here, especially the purplekiss, ive, and nmixx opinions. Swan is seriously insanely talented, especially from someone who came from a company where the goal is the make carbon copies, not individual artists, and I love hearing her voice in ALL their songs. I didn't even like MEMEME that much but Swan's "eye" part after the chorus is MMMM delicious thank youu.
Actually Eunsang just made a pretty good song with his new group Younite :D
Ok if people understand a bit about vocals (part time vocal coach here) purple kiss doesn't have the best vocal line this generation it's absolutely definitely and no arguments is aespa from techniques to support in mixed lower and upper rigesters, heasy and chesty developments, wide ranges ( Ningning has the widest range I've seen in the whole kpop industry in the lower register), tones, vibrato...
I love bahiyyih but I'm sick of the toxic solo stans
I hate that PK is criminally underrated
They will dominate the industry over the years
Gonna say it. I've defended hiyyih on several occasions but she gives off such gloomy and sad vibes. Her smiles are always forced. It's kinda annoying.
bro i hateee bhaiyih stans toooo lmaoooo. not all of them jsut the annoying ones. ive even seen some of them say they shouldve given her xiatoting lines cuz she got 2nd place and xiao got 9th
3:20 I feel the same I miss her
The thing is...a group can be extremely talented but if they don't have good music it makes it harder to stan LOL If a group/soloist has music I don't like, if they don't have a show or vlog a lot then I lose interest fast. Talent is not enough to stand out when there are hundreds of other groups lol. Its impossible for us to stan everyone and for everyone to be popular. Sadly someone has to be on the bottom. Anyways I'm interested in NMix. I'm waiting for their comeback to see if I wanna stan or not because their B side is trash 🤧
Agree nmixx is so talented but there song was trash 🗑️
Which group is at the intro and outro?
Purple Kiss
Love Dive just sounds like a song that only IVE can sing. Anyone else singing that song would just sound weird
periodt.
Can someone tell who the group that mv is used. For the if your broke dont debut groups.
NB 2 YESS OMG
It's unfair to everyybodyyy
1. Not only Bahiyyih, fans in general can severely turn you off from a group. And solo stans (the bad ones. As someone who was a solo Hoshi stan for years before I actually got into the group some solo stans are chill) can really make you dislike someone. With me, I only liked Lisa from Blackpink (not that I disliked the rest I just paid more attention to Lisa) her toxic solo stans are just so unbearable. And they’re EVERYWHERE!!! Some groups (like bts. They have a a lot of toxic army but I personally don’t see them all the time unlike blonks) you can go with only seeing maybe a couple toxic people every once in a while but it’s hard NOT seeing crazy Lisa stans. I don’t see a lot of Kep1er content but all I hear is negativity from Bahiyyih stans and it’s starting to turn me off.
7. Purple Kiss!! I wish people talked about them more! Not to bring down other 4th gen groups because I like them as well but when it comes to rap and vocals, PK just sounds more experienced in my opinion. I was SHOCKED to find out that they were rookies. They have amazing discography, amazing raps, GOD TIER vocals and amazing presence. I wish they had so much more hype. And even my friends who aren’t into kpop that well can’t help but listen to them because they’re so good 😭
sure
brave girls are gaining A LOT of actual fans from queendom,,, along with even more live from the general population. and they have “topped” rollin
about nmixx - you are totally wrong. no one hates the girls. they hate the song! everyone knows how talented these girls are. we've all seen their predebut videos. people are only mad at jype for giving a song like that to girls as talented as they are. because it doesn't really showcase their vocal skills
chaeyeon needs to leave wm rn
what happened to the audio at the start? 🤨
AGREED‼️‼️
Still no chaeyeon debut🚶♀️
What is the name of that girl group whose mv looks like a stage from a music show?
majors !
@@rina-qr6xl thank you!
i cant fully agree with the second opinion since BTS literally came from a bankrupt agency when they debuted. i think some of these agencies rly wanna make their own music and sound w/ kpop and pull a bts
listen, bahiyyih akgaes wouldnt exist if kep1ians werent so toxic in October. yall asked for it!
Exactly!!!!
the fact that the toxicity towards hiyyih is STILL going (from jnetz) and they’re barely talking abt that
Damn where are those toxic hiyyih ‘fan’ comments? Where do u find those?
lmao I'm sorry I don't care at all for this video but I have to call out the melodramatic ass thumbnail. "speaking my truth" girl u ain't a victim lmao
THANK YOU
Honestly, Bahiyyih is not that good. Because of that she ends up being a filler member. The filler members are usually the members that aren't particularly good at anything.she ended up in the group because she is popular not because of her talent. This is very common for basically all k-pop groups, almost every K-pop group has a member that is lacking in every field. And that is ok. I think the problem with her stans is that they think that she is everything, they think that she is the baddest bitch in this group. They refuse to acknowledge that she has any kind of flaws and that she is in this position because of those flaws. They want her to be the center of attention all the time, but she is just not there yet. She is not at that point where she can get a lot of lines or a decent amount of lines. She is not at that point where she can be in centre for decent amount of time. She is simply just not ready yet. That's why she's in the background all the time. Kep1er is really good for her because it helps her get experience, so when she does get into a permanent group, she'll be one of the top members talent wise, experience wise, and she'll have more confidence. Right now she is learning. That's literally all I think her fans are misunderstanding.
babes youre entire comment was just a load of bullshit. as a vocalist myself yall really gotta stop speaking when it’s obvious you dont know anything in that field. hiyyih outsings literally 99% of the group 💀 hiyyih and youngeun aren’t far apart in technique which says a lot considering youngeun is constantly praised for her singing and for being a main vocal potential. Bahiyyih sings with little to no strain(the only other person in this group that does that is Chae). She also has a connected range and know how to mix properly for notes higher in her register. Her head voice is very clear and developed. hiyyih also has a wide vocal range, a resonant tone. she’s also a good dancer thats just in a group with stronger dancers. the fact that youre upset at people hyping hiyyih up by calling her a bad bitch is weirdo behaviour love. she’s in the background because wakeone is shit and favours certain members. she obviously is the main attraction and attention since she’s living in all yalls heads rent free. she has good stage presence, can sing and dance well so she can very much handle centre time.
hiyyih literally is popular for her talent..why the fuck do you think she has so many stans when msnake wouldn’t even give her more than 30 secs of speaking? wonder why her fancam views are so high? hiyyih got her fans from her talent and the hate she got. idk why you’re speaking on a fandom youre not even in. hiyyih IS the baddest bitch and she will continue to outsell! 🥰
@@aangisbestboi3984 correction; her brother. All of her fans are from her brother. Her brothers popularity carried her the whole way
@@thelazyarmy9707 the fact that thats the only thing you had to say from my comment tells me you know youre wrong. you just look goofy babes. bahiyyih was an attention point all throughout gp999 it didnt matter how much screentime she got because her fans always found other ways to get new content. why do you think her fancam views were always among the highest, if not the highest? bahiyyih debuting just proves my point even more cuz it shows that bahiyyih didnt just gain attention/hype for being kais sister. even now she’s by far the most popular member, this shows she wasnt being carried by moas. data was released that showed that people searched hiyyih up more as bahiyyih /huening bahiyyih than kai’s sister. bahiyyih is a valuable asset to kepler both talent and marketing wise. if you really want to pull the “there were better contestants” bs than pull that shit for the rest of the group
wait i am a 12 yo who makes music on garageband
Honestly purple kiss does has the best vocal line but still ppl are like nmixx and aespa are the best just because they're being biased. I know Ningning is one of the best vocalist of 4th gen and winter too and about nmixx only lily has a powerful voice others are just average with great visuals. This is my unpopular opinion but nmixx doesn't has the best vocals of all time just because of one member (lily) tho are very talented. And purple kiss has the best vocal lines in 4th gen.
But you see that’s the thing lily is amazing but all the other girls can hold their own even the main rapper can sing well so I respectfully disagree
@@brandonscipio8572 it's not about who all can sing, rapper can sing but that doesn't means the group is best in vocals I'm talking about best vocal lines!
sorry but lilly isnt the only above average vocalist in nmixx. haewon too is rlly close to lilly and and sullyoon, jiwoo, kyujin all have amazing vocals. literally everyone in nmixx supports