How did i miss this. I can vouch for this man that he has travelled the roads , the snow , the journey of this bicycle .. comes from a family of cyclists . His word is gold . Good to see you brother, going to watch to end . ❤. The mileage you have covered is amazing. I wonder about chain breaks, ive a mate who kills them often . Ive a question , are the gear changes manual ? Or do they change the gears based of relative torque sensing ? I think if they have not developed a torque sensing gearing one should be created especially for these drill drive motor bikes . The chain braking to me is demonstrating the issue . Ive had hydraulics for 12 years . They are the safest breaks that ever there were 😂. I take note of your hand grips for future purchase. Have you seen these back packs with turn signalling built in . ? Theres a lady called scootladychicago that has some very fancy kit on her back. . This is a great film . Well done .
@lifesahobby, hey Owen! Great to hear from you brother! I have a new chain and rear cluster coming on Friday, I’ve been getting between 5000/6000 kms on my chain and gears the last two times. They are Shimano shifters and they are independent of the torque sensor. The display shows the voltage your motor is drawing so for those that actually want to be efficient you can use that like a tachometer is suppose. Since I never just use the throttle only I ride it like my mountain or road bikes, exactly the same way only 10-15 kmh faster, it’s still great fun every single time. You learn how to change gears without destroying the rear sprocket or chain after you’ve replace a couple due to ignorance ;) Cheers my friend! Great hearing from you. Out next week for a trip, video to follow :)
I dunno man. After this review, I'm kinda on the fence now. I have a 2021 model Rize X, a 2023 model Rize X and two 2023 model Blades. (All are hub motors) and I've been thinking of upgrading the wife and I to RX Pros and giving our two teenage boys the X's, now that they've outgrown the Blades. 4 mid drive motors in two years? I'm not sure I want to invest in that kind of poor quality motor. Delicate and tempermental is not what I want on a rugged commuter bike intended for 4 season riding. 3 defective motors is making me take a huge, hard step back, if I'm being honest. You've replaced a LOT of stuff on that bike, and while I realize you ride a lot of KM's, I'm not too sure that you should be replacing parts at that rate. I've got about 7,000 km's on my 2021 model (Which is now my wife's bike) and the only thing I've ever replaced on it besides tires is the controller. My 2023 model is at about 5,000 km's now, and that one had a controller that went too, on a ride out in Tofino. (I had to ride it back to Ukee from the highway 4 turnoff STRICTLY analog, and that was... not fun) Other than those two things, all four bikes have had zero problems. Maybe I should stick with the hub motors. :/ Or maybe time to look at a Biktrix. Hrmm...
@the610photographer, the winters here are tough on equipment, and I do ride it regardless of conditions. I agree I’ve replaced a ton, forks and derailer were accident related, everything else just wore out. I am abusing it by pulling the trailer, but to be honest this current motor is doing great with just over 7000 Kms on it. Biktrik use Bafang drives as well so not much difference in the two products honestly. Quiet drives like Shamano, Bosch, are available but the bikes they are available on don’t cut it for me personally. My experience my not be yours but I hope this helped you make your next investment!! Thx for checking it out and the comment. Cheers, Rick
How fast do you get going on those bikes for top speed (downhill)? How much effort do you put into pedaling it? I know that is subjective, but I'm still curious.
@agesadventures, the fastest I’ve gone, as the fastest I’d ever want to go on one of these was 61.2 kmh. Absolutely downhill, throttle only. I never use the throttle only, 99% of the time in in the lowest possible assist and I pedal always. If you want to travel at say,,,, 35 kmh in the first assist you’re working, I’d say it’s like riding a mountain bike in the 7 th gear largest old school front sprocket but travelling at least 10-15 kmh faster. I ride both bikes still and when this one breaks down I ride my Specialized, takes 40 kms to adjust to the self propelled mountain bike. When I’m done pulling the trailer 120kms I’m bloody tired! I’d also say most people I see ride with lots of assist or with the throttle alone, not my deal but I think it’s more the norm! Cheers, as always!
How did i miss this.
I can vouch for this man that he has travelled the roads , the snow , the journey of this bicycle .. comes from a family of cyclists .
His word is gold .
Good to see you brother, going to watch to end . ❤.
The mileage you have covered is amazing.
I wonder about chain breaks, ive a mate who kills them often . Ive a question , are the gear changes manual ? Or do they change the gears based of relative torque sensing ?
I think if they have not developed a torque sensing gearing one should be created especially for these drill drive motor bikes . The chain braking to me is demonstrating the issue .
Ive had hydraulics for 12 years . They are the safest breaks that ever there were 😂.
I take note of your hand grips for future purchase.
Have you seen these back packs with turn signalling built in . ? Theres a lady called scootladychicago that has some very fancy kit on her back. .
This is a great film . Well done .
@lifesahobby, hey Owen! Great to hear from you brother!
I have a new chain and rear cluster coming on Friday, I’ve been getting between 5000/6000 kms on my chain and gears the last two times. They are Shimano shifters and they are independent of the torque sensor. The display shows the voltage your motor is drawing so for those that actually want to be efficient you can use that like a tachometer is suppose.
Since I never just use the throttle only I ride it like my mountain or road bikes, exactly the same way only 10-15 kmh faster, it’s still great fun every single time.
You learn how to change gears without destroying the rear sprocket or chain after you’ve replace a couple due to ignorance ;)
Cheers my friend! Great hearing from you.
Out next week for a trip, video to follow :)
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Lol yeah I heard you intimate that the gears were learned somewhat hard way .
Very cool . Best of luck next week
Excellent
Thank you! Cheers!
I dunno man. After this review, I'm kinda on the fence now. I have a 2021 model Rize X, a 2023 model Rize X and two 2023 model Blades. (All are hub motors) and I've been thinking of upgrading the wife and I to RX Pros and giving our two teenage boys the X's, now that they've outgrown the Blades. 4 mid drive motors in two years? I'm not sure I want to invest in that kind of poor quality motor. Delicate and tempermental is not what I want on a rugged commuter bike intended for 4 season riding. 3 defective motors is making me take a huge, hard step back, if I'm being honest. You've replaced a LOT of stuff on that bike, and while I realize you ride a lot of KM's, I'm not too sure that you should be replacing parts at that rate. I've got about 7,000 km's on my 2021 model (Which is now my wife's bike) and the only thing I've ever replaced on it besides tires is the controller. My 2023 model is at about 5,000 km's now, and that one had a controller that went too, on a ride out in Tofino. (I had to ride it back to Ukee from the highway 4 turnoff STRICTLY analog, and that was... not fun) Other than those two things, all four bikes have had zero problems.
Maybe I should stick with the hub motors. :/ Or maybe time to look at a Biktrix. Hrmm...
@the610photographer, the winters here are tough on equipment, and I do ride it regardless of conditions.
I agree I’ve replaced a ton, forks and derailer were accident related, everything else just wore out.
I am abusing it by pulling the trailer, but to be honest this current motor is doing great with just over 7000 Kms on it.
Biktrik use Bafang drives as well so not much difference in the two products honestly.
Quiet drives like Shamano, Bosch, are available but the bikes they are available on don’t cut it for me personally.
My experience my not be yours but I hope this helped you make your next investment!!
Thx for checking it out and the comment.
Cheers,
Rick
How fast do you get going on those bikes for top speed (downhill)?
How much effort do you put into pedaling it? I know that is subjective, but I'm still curious.
@agesadventures, the fastest I’ve gone, as the fastest I’d ever want to go on one of these was 61.2 kmh. Absolutely downhill, throttle only.
I never use the throttle only, 99% of the time in in the lowest possible assist and I pedal always. If you want to travel at say,,,, 35 kmh in the first assist you’re working, I’d say it’s like riding a mountain bike in the 7 th gear largest old school front sprocket but travelling at least 10-15 kmh faster.
I ride both bikes still and when this one breaks down I ride my Specialized, takes 40 kms to adjust to the self propelled mountain bike.
When I’m done pulling the trailer 120kms I’m bloody tired!
I’d also say most people I see ride with lots of assist or with the throttle alone, not my deal but I think it’s more the norm!
Cheers, as always!