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Midra Didn't Want This
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
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Midra was too weak to become a lord...my bonk build saw to that
Thank you to Lee for helping with the research on this video 💞
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Music Used: Little Nightmares II OST
Huge thank you to Lee for helping with the research for this video 💚
Love the little nightmares theme u chose for the vid sets the tone right keep up the good work
Dunno your stance on AI created music Jake, but if you're interested I have a pair of songs on the Frenzied Flame I created a short while back on Udio. Just search for May Chaos Take the World or Flame of Despair, my moniker there is Jaded John.
Wait, isn’t it said that midra couldn’t fit for the title of lord of frenzied flame because of enduring the pain for too long ? If yes, why would nanaya tell him to endure if her goal was to make him the lord of frenzied flame ? It would make him unfitting. So maybe nanaya was trying to do the contrary ? Idk im not the theorist here
Edit : I know you spoke about this, just saying
could it have been saint trina that was trying to save godwyn but was mistaken for miquella? maybe trina wanted the price of death for an eternal slumber while miquella wanted rahdan
@@afk2402 I think it was specifically why she said the word of power "Endure" because he failed initially, also I suspect it was her who removed his spine and stabbed him with the thorny sword.
She cursed him to suffer for ages so when he finally has enough then he'll truly lose himself to insanity fully so he can finally become the true Lord of the Frenzied Flame.
He wasn't a failure but a ticking timebomb by the time we find him. Our character simply triggered him before he went fully mad on his own. He was the original long-term plan of the Three Fingers.
He was a threat to all no matter what happened. The Three Fingers try to recruit us to expedite the process but even if it fails to recruit us or we fail at destroying the world, Midra would have been ready to pop by then if ignored.
Played all the Souls games but this area was the first to truly creep me out. Wish his dungeon was longer thought.
Bruh, even the grape headed humanoids with the fog and torrent not summoning was a great mood setter
Shoot that entire area I consider to be his area, it's big enough, as soon as torrent just threw me off onto the ground and was like, "nope, I'm out." And wouldn't come back, I knew I was going to like this area but man I didn't expect what I got, I liked it, it's a good size as a whole, yeah if it was just the Mansion, yeah that's way too small but like I said I consider that entire area to be his and it's, ok to me, Midra was one of my favorite boss fights of the DLC loved his movements, and trying to avoid going crazy was awesome
I thought the upper cathedral ward in blood borne was really ominous and scary. The theme that plays while in the area, and the scariest part imo was after the celestial emissaries and you take the elevator down and look at Ebrietas. Peak cosmic horror
For me it was the tower of latria in demons souls that really creeped me out but this recapture that feeling
For me, creepiest area in souls-borne is fishing hamlet.
“Enough. I have eaten…more than enough…dearest papaya…”
@@ThomasDSin underrated comment
Now I cannot unhear 'papaya' thank you
The lead up to Midra was a masterclass in how to build up a boss. The horror aspect of the Abyssal Woods, the screams and mutterings you here as you walk around Midra's Manse. S Tier stuff
What horror aspect?
@@nicholasloduca6668 Hands down my favorite area in the dlc due to its completely dread and insanity and haunting beauty
I feel like the entire DLC is full of amazing lead-up moments
The climb to Bayle on the Jagged Peak
The trudging through the Abyssal Woods to get to the Manse
@@Slaughter_Hill maybe the Dark, fog covered swamp that puts fear into your one companion for this whole journey. Messages telling us we have to sneak. If you weren't reminded of a horror movie upon entrance to the woods, than I'd like to know what it felt like to you.
@@MacMoist-ie9eo you walk to the goofy goober, realize it’s all insta kills then you look up to parry them. 5 minutes later you’re in Midras manse
I think both starscourge radahn and midra are the two best bosses at making you understand why you are fighting them. The whole radahn festival (jerren explaining why the festival exists with that sick radahn cutscene of him feasting on soldiers) and especially the whole midra’s manse and abyssal woods. The frenzy ambience, the screams of midra, the painting showing midra and the woman which, if you pay the slightest of attentions, you realise that her name is nanaya due to the torch you find on her body and midra himself stating her name as he apologises for what he is about to do, release the frenzied flame. It is truly amazing how much lore they crammed into like 6 rooms and a bossfight and it is definitely one of the best easily understandable narratives of all of fromsoftware’s bosses. Bravo Michael Zaki 👏👏
Your autocorrect might be racist
Lol Michael Zaki 😂
Michael
Messmer too
That painting of Midra’s manse and the woods as being a paradise of flowers and life is very striking to me. Now there is frenzied flame imbued into the very rock. How bad must it be for the frenzied flame to enter the stone itself?? Truly shocking stuff. Torrent knows more than we do, even with the Surging Frenzied Flame lore item
It must I've been such a beautiful place to walk around 🥹
Notice how there wasn't a frenzy flame consumable/throwable until the DLC, and I'm sure you only get one until you're on your way to the woods.
I love that his arena isnt fancy, it feels like a rotten shack. (Just bigger) Almost every other boss i can think of has a very interesting arena showing who they are or are beautiful in another way.
Nanaya had midra infection the 3 fingers, which caused the woods to get infected. Nanaya is actually shabriri
I like how he pierces his hand with a barb to ensure he doesn’t lose his grip when pulling out the branch
I love how it serve the dual purpose of conveying just how painful the greatsword is. Midra does not even _flinch_ as he pushes the spine through his palm, indicating that it feels like nothing compared to the blade embedded inside of him
Nanaya's torch isn't necessarily Midra's spine, she could have tried this with someone else before. Especially since Midra still has a functioning spine during his boss fight. Another thing, if you look at her corpse's face, you can see her eye sockets might be empty. There are also hidden Finger corpses in the Manse. All this gives credence to the idea that she was similar to Hyetta or Shabriri.
Was waiting for someone to say this yeah I don't think we know who the spine is yet
i feel its the spine of the hinted baby
Think he has an entirely new body in the fight
@@dirtydan7304 He grows bigger, but it's still his body. It's still marred by the effects of his torture.
@@johannessmith1369 its implied the blades put into Midra serves as his spine instead of his own - he had his spine replaced. WHen he transforms, in my head canon, its now frenzy flame supporting his carcass/corpse - spine unneccessary
Great choice with the Little Nightmares 2 soundtrack at the beginning!
Literally stopped me in my tracks, this is my favorite from all the little nightmares soundtracks. I'll be humming it again now lol
Word i still run that OST back too. Great touch.
That level reminded me exactly of LN
I don't think that Nanaya's Torch is Midra's spine. We can very clearly see his spine protruding from his back. The specific description of it being a "small spinal column", combined with the fact that she holds her stomach, or womb, makes me think it's the spine of her baby.
Babies aren't that big lmao, from the description, it seems Nanaya is a Three Fingers Maiden, like Hyetta she has been body hoping for a while trying to find a worthy lord, she came to the manse with the torch, maybe used their curiosity like "hey i found this, can you investigate?" and from there she seduced Midra, got pregnant and all to give him happiness, while the flame of the torch infected the manse and the woods, when the hornsent got wind of it, they raided the manse and killed everyone, this was part of Nanaya's plan, since taking away the happiness of someone so suddenly would create a large quantity of madness since it would feel unjust (see how the spirit being unaware of the crime! most died without knowing the reason was the flame of frenzy).
Like Hyetta, Nanaya didn't care to live, she wanted to bring forth a new lord of frenzy, so dying while pregnant and cursing Midra with enduring, she thought that would had the job done eventually.
Little did she know our Tarnished would beat Midra, who even then would not let go of his love for Nanaya, who in his eyes wasn't invovled in this.
@Rubb3rFac3 Spine is too thick to be an infants. It would have to be someone else.
@@mattd5240might be zoomed in. It literally states „small spine“ and she looks pregnant in the painting. You can see that Midra still has his in his cutscene before removing the stick. I still think it’s the baby’s.
It's shabriri's, and he took over nanaya's body and orchestrated midra infecting the 3 fingers and his torture (so he'd become a lord and the 3 fingers as a backup plan).
Why I found a bit disappointing was that when I entered the manse, I had the frenzied flame in my eyes. I think it could’ve been an amazing moment that he ends up attacking me because he recognizes it within me and how I am not suffering like him. Sadly, it made no difference.
Yeah that was really lame. It was an ending ffs. Also, gideon and malenia should have something like Sif or Friede.
@@FullMetalElric Wdym?
@@Kyree5042 Friede dialogue changes depending on Yuria's questline. Sif intro cinematic changes if you rescued him in Artorias of the Abyss.
@@FullMetalElric ohhhh
I love the little nightmare vibes. Could you imagine being 6 running around that house and trying to avoid the madness.
I've heard "The depths...of your foolishness!" way too many times.
i truly believe the lord of frenzy is not a being like Shabriri i feel like its a state of pure ECTASY Midra's joyous relief and Our own flamboyant movements in the chaos ending. Becoming the lord of frenzy is the final stage oh nihilism from "nothing matters" to "NOTHING MATTERS!!! :D"
NIHILism is my favourite -ism
A man who no longer has anything to lose, has everything to destroy
@@androski5247 nihilism is for cowards running away from life
"Chaos, Chaos. I can do anything"
_"The flame of frenzy burns the eyes, but tranquility follows in its wake. May this pot bring salvation to those it strikes."_ -Flame of Frenzy pots.
_"The Lord of Frenzied Flame shall take their torment, despair."_ -Midra's Flame of Frenzy
I'm really shocked that few, if any, creators have mentioned the connection between Madness, the color yellow, and Robert Chambers' work "The King in Yellow" The story revolves around a play whose first part draws you in, and the second part drives the reader mad. Midra's design itself is a Lord wrapped in yellow tatters - that's almost an homage to Hastur, the King in Yellow.
OMFG you're right, how could I forget about the King in Yellow (especially when I have played the Path to Carcosa expansion a lot of Arkham Horror CG)
And Midra kinda looks like a bathered King in Yellow with his raggedy outfit.
idk why but midra gives me some "king in yellow" vibes, but i really liked his dungeon, and the abyssal Woods too
It is everybody wearing yellow for sure
Most Fromsoft titles have a "king in yellow" archetype
Nanaya sitting in the chair specifically reminss me of the yellow king in fear and hunger kaiser
@@blackout12344 could it be the yellow robes?
Idk who this king in yellow is, but at this point Im too hesitant to ask
Here is my take:
Long ago before Marika destroyed the Hornsent, Nanaya arrived mysteriously at Midra's Manse carrying nothing but this torch. The torch, of course, being the spine of her failed Lord from a distant land. The dying flame atop it may have infected the inhabitants of the Manse and likely Midra himself. Mira succumbed to Nanaya's flame and madness soon crept in. It got to a point where the wider Hornsent civilization was alerted and Jori was sent. The Manse was assailed and many were executed. Midra was impaled but he could not be killed, as the power of the flame protected him. Nanaya's last words to him were "Endure", hoping that the pain would make him strong enough to become lord.
In the end, Midra very well might have been the man to end the world, but us players make sure that does not happen. And so it is that he was too weak to become a true Lord of Frenzied Flame. To me, this confirms that the DLC is meant to be played before you end the game. I'm sure many of you were like "Wait a minute? Aren't I the Lord of Frenzied Flame!?!?!" Of course this makes no sense chronologically as you destroy the world in the Frenzy ending. All I'm saying is that for all of your next Frenzy characters, you have to fight Midra before you kill Radagon, just saying!
Comment makes no sense. You can’t beat the game before beating the dlc.
@@Slaughter_Hill yeah you can
@@MrTimebomb12 I'm not sure about this. Doesn't it imply that the torch made from the spine of midra himself?
I feel like the dlc takes place after the base game miquella calls the tarnished the lord of the previous order which would imply were a lord by that point in the dlc it just a matter of which ending you picked I guess although if we had to choose a cannon ending it’s probably not FF
I think the spinal column might just be Midra's. It would suggest that Nanaya infiltrated the Manse and seduced Midra a lot more covertly than just rocking up with a failed frenzy lord in tow to take over the Manse. I imagine this seduction would've taken place over the span of at least over a year, maybe even years or decades with the Manse slowly delving into the study and attempted replication of Frenzy into the world; and not to mention she has quite the baby bump by the time she died, so there's no way she would've announced to the Hornsent Elders that she was hijacking their sage's Manse and been able to avoid retribution within a month or even less.
This entire process had to have happened over a very long period of time, and I think this might've even have been one of the first more wide spread summonings of Frenzy. The Hornsent would've had to have known about Frenzy before for them to attack it so fervently, but I think it might've only shown up in small pockets, burning out and destroying a couple spirits before fizzling out, but the Hornsent would've taken notice, and basically put a full ban on any interactions or research into Frenzy Flame. Nanaya was possibly an accident, a shaman who got away from Bonny Village, and in her despair the Frenzied Flame would've found her. She would've descended down the waterfalls, down the catacombs (or possibly more hospitable pathway back when Midra was a frequented elder?), and by the time she would've made her way to the Manse, she would be a disease that would infect the Manse with Frenzy, ever so slowly, the first true epidemic of Frenzy.
As for why Frenzied Flame is far more common in the Lands Between vs the Lands of Shadow, it might be because not only is there is a larger macrocosm of despair in The Lands Between, but while the Hornsent feared the Flame of Frenzy, it might've been a well guarded secret, and Marika might've not known about the Frenzied Flame. She wouldn't have trained her Golden Order to be diligent and eradicate any Frenzied Flame on sight like the Hornsent had, so when she shattered the Elden Ring, and despair gripped the world, Frenzy was able to thrive in that environment, like bacteria thrive in heavily acidic environments. I don't believe Frenzy comes up anywhere outside of the Abyssal Woods in The Lands of Shadow, whereas the base game has the village down in the Weeping Peninsula, the village up in the Bellum Highway, along with all the Shabriri graped ghosts, frenzied trolls, and Merchants, let alone the whole Merchant Caravan buried beneath Leyndell!
Honestly if Elden Ring and it's Factions and Outer Gods were to be compared to Warhammer 40k or League of Legends, Frenzy would be the same as the the realm of Chaos or the Void. Despite all the outer gods, all the factions in service of the outer gods, the Lands Between, and by extension the Lands of Shadow, the Frenzied Flame is the true threat of this universe. Yes the Greater Will had the largest hand in shaping the Lands Between with both the Elden Beast and Metyr, mostly fucking it up in the process, the other outer gods have still had pretty sizeable impacts on the world too, with the god of rot basically terraforming Caelid and the whole underground Lake of Rot, while the Fell God of Ruin took over the Fire Giant culture, and the Mother of Truth established both the Bloodfiends in the Lands of Shadow and then the Mohgwyn Dynasty in the Lands Between. The Frenzied Flame spits on all of this, it's influence in the world isn't to inspire worship and to leave a mark, it's to remove everyone else's mark, the burn it all away. It's like the Vex in Destiny, it wants to be the only thing in the universe, with all other things wiped from existence.
This Tarnished of no renown sure seems to be one powerful entity, able to do things multiple demigods could not.
@@Nathan_Coley just like dark souls! A nobody that cannot die slowly steals power through taking the runes and souls until they are a certified badass XD
@@theadtheogrekiller5629 Oh I know and I enjoy the game (my first attempt at a Souls like game). I just felt like leaving a kind of goofy comment taking a shot at the demigods getting bodied by a tarnish of no renown.
We have Fextralife to guide us
@@alfalldoot6715 And many others
@@alfalldoot6715 so thats where gideon is getting his info
The depths of your FOOLISHNESS 🗣🔥
I was expecting a giant monster in the woods
I havent been scared like that in a video game since a kid playing resident evil. Great design
Same. I saw the notes and was expecting a cloverfield monster or something, but the winterlantern 2.0 was neat too. I know some people hate putting stealth sections in non stealth games but at least this area gave you a reason to use those cool stealth abilities and mechanics outside of simply turning off enemy aggro.
Black Knife armor helps here so much. Silent footsteps.
As someone whose fav soulsborne is bloodborne, I absolutely loved this area from begining to end, even making you traverse it on foot because torrent said "Nah brah, I'm good, I'll watch from inside the whistle" was a nice touch to add to the tension. My only complain about this area are 2 things:
1) No frenzyflame dragon, missed chance to put one there, considering how big it is.
2) Can't get the winter-lantern head as a helmet, because I would have love to get that and use it 24/7
Other than that, amazing area, and the boss, while he's not hard or anything too complicated, the lore, the look and the soundtrack made it all perfect.
P.S: Miyazaki-San plz, patch a winter-lanter helmet, I want.
Madness dragon sounds like an awesome fight, they could have used the ghost flame dragons and given them the same frenzy textures from the area, skeletal madness dragon that spawns a frenzy flame orb
@@iamthereddemon20 imo FS missed a chance to introduce a variety of more dragon, instead of 3 ghostflames, it could have been 1 ghostflame, 1 frenzyflame, 1 bloodflame or something around those lines
We have a pure fire dragon (agheel), a magic dragon (smarag), a pure ice dragon (borealis), a magic ice dragon (adula), a rot dragon (ekzykes), a ghostflame dragon.
Madness dragon would be so good. And it would make sense. You could say that in a battle, a drake tried to fight Bayle and was gored and utterly ripped apart, barely surviving as he was thrown from the jagged peak and he crashed into the abyssal woods. The flame of frenzy entered him and reanimated him.
And seriously, this is a real opportunity to not simply copy paste it and just change the breath. Change the moveset, make it move strangely as if the flame of frenzy is really the one controlling it. Hell, give it a second phase by making it's eyes or even its jaw and tongue melt away. You could say that the fire is so hot and chaotic that even a dragon body can't handle it.
Love how fromsoft just casually dropped the scariest level in the series in the middle of this dlc. Getting kicked off torrent (who at this point has been with you through some SERIOUS shit) and being told he can’t be summoned out of fear was one of the most chilling moments I’ve had in any of these games.
Carian Manor was the base game spooky mansion.
I didn’t even experience the grape head bois. 😅 I saw those spooky notes and popped assassins gambit and hugged the wall until I was at the mansion
I remember the first time I pulled up to the woods, and Torrent got fear factored outta use; I turned right tf around and left. After getting through the ruins and lighting some twig on fire I went back before ascending the tower. Once I realized the winter lanterns could be parried, fear turned to anger and I legit used them to learn how to parry for the 1st time. Then I went through the entire woods and massacred each and every one I could find. Only after thoroughly cleansing the woods did I actually stumble upon Midra's Manse and it felt like the game was rewarding me for all my hard work. It kinda did but it was a very Elden Ring kind of reward that involved getting mauled numerous times by various groups of rats and a single big dude that DID NOT like me walking through his hallway.
Since I saw the first trailer with the shot of the painting, Midra’s Manse and Midra removing the sword from his head, I couldn’t wait to visit this area. As soon as I found the Abyssal Woods I realized this is where this would all take place and it all came together perfectly by the end. Some of the best visual storytelling that FS have ever authored.
Great video. The opening cinematics are wonderful.
Midra was a silly guy
just a silly little guy 4sure
Opening the video with Little Nightmares' soundtrack for a boss literally all about madness is so peak.
Honestly haven't seen such a good video intro since Vaati's first analysis of the DLC reveal trailer, amazing work on this Jake! I absolutely love how each shot not only lines up with the music, but the placement of each shot feels like the perfect moment for each new aspect of the Little Nightmares 2 main theme to be introduced, like when the player pulls back the lever in the library, or when we get a shot of Nanaya's corpse.
I really wish the castle was bigger and maybe another mini boss but otherwise the entire area was still awesome.
the Darklight Catacombs with the Inquisitor seem like a precursor kind of miniboss but way harder than any but I get what you are saying and wish same.
The 2 divine beasts there are there very strong
5:24 hold up; you get the talisman from the one nearest the church. The others give swollen grapes
Oh, WOW! I really LOVED the format of this one! Few do it like you do! Like, the way you expressed it, REALLY makes it unique!
Ayo I think I have a crazy theory. Marika and radagon were put into jars and Molded together and were the only successful “saint” with marika and radagons body being one it was a perfect way to become a god and vassle for the erdtree to make a new world for her. Hence her being a saint for the “golden order” I’m also high asf tho
@@theraven13-twitchclips3 this ain't bad
Ah yes finna play this while I’m at work
Lmao that’s what I was doing the first 2 weeks after release 🤣 thank god for PS Remote Play
I was on Molly when I discovered the abyssal woods, I was scared shitless knowing my character couldn't do shit, still my favorite place but I would never get back there😂
Bold confession but funny as shit 😭💀
Bruh I'd be crying I couldn't
Will some one please, Midra is Messmer father. Messmer is the joining of 2 fingers and 3 fingers. The hand of grater will. 2 and 3 fingers make a hand.
Radagon is almost certainly Messmer's father, the iconic red hair coupled with the fact that Messmer's crusade and sealing took place AFTER the creation of the Tarnished, since he knows what a Tarnished is.
Thus, long after Marika left to conquer the Lanes Between.
Also, since Midra seems to be a Hornsent I think Marika would sooner die than lay with one, given the depths of her hatred for the whole race.
The skill description mentions the Golden Order "Unique Skill: Golden Crux - Leap up and skewer foe from overhead. If successful, the weapon's barbs unfold to excruciate from within; else, additional barbs in the area. There is something of the Golden Order in the sight of those fixed upon this crux."
This video has some vatti level production. You’ve elevated your video game. You have endured long enough to make an awesome video for one of the most interesting places in the dlc.
Damn the production on this is beautiful
Or, as I like to think of it: Midra's Manse of Madness.
The association of the spiral and torture/inquisition gives contexts to the Confessor starting class as there is a sideways spiral/twist on the robes.
The item description of the spinal torch says "small" and "cradled". Could the spine not honestly be what is left of the baby that Nanaya carried?
I also wonder if perhaps she birthed the three fingers
There are finger eggs from Metyr’s arena in Midra’s Manse. I think it’s almost for sure that Nanaya or Midra created the 3 fingers
This was so good I had to put it up on the big screen! Amazing work Lee & Jake, can’t wait for the next one!
This game (and DLC) is a masterpiece. There really is no other way to describe it.
Using the Little Nightmares music for this theme of madness is genius.
Hey Jake, I just want you to know that I really love this new production style introduction to the video. I'm sure it took loving hours to film and edit, and I didn't want your work to go unacknowledged.
Midras fell for that hello kitty girl bussy he just like me fr
ong
This was an incredible video! Great job 👍🏽
I believe I have solved this entire story
So long ago when metyr's fingers spoke for the greater will, Midra believed giving the 3 fingers the frenzied flame (convinced by Nanaya) that it would be able to speak for said god like they did for the greater will. Doing this scorched the abyssal woods and cursed the land. This is why the Greater will abandoned Metyr, due to her being easily corrupted by it's enemy
Nanaya is secretly a corpse reanimated by Shabriri, who had the 3 fingers infected with the flame as a back up incase Midra wasn't strong enough to become the lord of frenzy.
Nanaya then snitched and had Midra executed for inheriting the flame, and told him to endure the pain for eternity as to "not let the frenzied flame take hold of him", when in reality the suffering is feeding the power of the flame inside him.
Nanaya/shabriri waited for much time for Midra to succumb, which he never did. So he ditched her corpse and worked on a new candidate (the suffering tarnished, like vyke and yourself)
The portrait of her smiling and Midra looking scared, along with the fingers in the manse justify.
I also believe the spine Nanaya has is actually shabriri's original flame (he is the one who failed long ago), Originally I thought it was Midras spine, but it's too short and you can still see spine bulges on midras back when he stands up.
I felt a deeper sense of horror with Midra's transformation, a sense of 'I have to stop this or it's the end of the world'.
I know how much effort and time to get all those shots and edit them together. Phenomenal work.
I’m not joking when I say this but I literally wet my pants as soon as I entered the Abyssal Woods, it is the only area in a video game that truly scared me
Trying too summon my horse and it saying it's too scared gave me bad vibes.
Then the messages saying "It's waiting" and "It can't be killed" gave me chills
Broooo! That intro though!! Maddeningly well done!
In keeping with the theory that Marika is the daughter of Midra and Nanaya, I suspect that Marika is the one who wrote on the torn diary page that she touched Midra. It seems to me that Midra may have given orders that he not be disturbed, let alone touched. But Marika defied this commandment. She touched the untouchable. And she learned that the rules and limitations of her Father were within her power to disregard. And these would not be the last.
This right here was the coolest part of the dlc in my opinion. The Abyssal Woods was an exquisite love letter to Bloodborne.
Nanaya is a goddess in the mesopatamian pantheon. Name meaning "she who is pleasing," she was often worshipped as a goddess of love.
Dionysus is best known as the god of wine and fertility, but less known as the patron god of insanity. An often used symbol: a bushel of grapes.
As an aside, in the story of the Bacchae, in retalition for having his worship banned in a kingdom, Dionysus made all the women go insane and hide in the woods. He then disguised himself as a woman, lured the king to the forest, and in their frenzy, the women tore the king into pieces with their bare hands. The kings own mother drove a stick through his head. Yikes.
beautiful comment.
the little nightmares music at the start was PERFECT. exactly the vibe i got from when i first entered midra's manse
Midra reminds me of a Reverse Gold Mask
The area where Midra is in could also be reference to the Book of Daniel. In it the great king Nebuchadnezzar begins to act like an animal.
The Little Nightmares theme in the into was PEAK!
Midra’s Manse seems like Eldens Ring’s answer to Castle Cainhurst from Bloodborne.
I wish we got a whole map with this area. I know. Too much to ask for. But I love the madness lore. The mystery and chaos behind it. Amazing video my man I explored his are with a fine brush favorite by far.
Nanaya’s torch is most likely the spine of the child of her and Midra, Midra’s spine in very much still intact
The little nightmares music at the start made it so much better
Little Nightmares music is perfect for this place.
Mist or beast....
Midra killed my spirit ashes multiple times, I don't know what Torrent was so scared of
The Little Nightmares music goes so well with the beginning
This might be your best work. Incredible intro cinematic and I like how even if you chose the frenzied flame ending that our character, the tarnished, is always meant to be the lord. That is why we prevail over miquella and Radahn, and why we can be the frenzied lord instead of Midra if we choose that path.
Poor midra enduring all that pain and when he finally removes what causes him all that, it turns out hes actually not good enough to be the lord of frenzied flame
Nanaya kind of reminds me of Nashandra. 🤨. . . Anyway. could be useful researching the origin or meaning of their names. Nanaya aligns with your hypothesis that she perhaps persuaded him and wanted the child of the frenzied flame: "Nanaya may have originally been an epithet for Inanna, the Sumerian goddess of *love*, sensuality, fertility, *procreation*, and *war*"
Also, the spine she CRADLES is small. Like a child.
Melina when trying you to not interact with the three fingers says "However ruined this world has become, however mired in torment and despair, life endures." I guess Nanaya, like her, and like a Maid, is also preventing the one she's following from falling in the frienzied flame madness. I guess she know what would happen if Midra stopped enduring the torture of the sword of damnation.
The arcs could also be a symbol of the greater will itself.
The "Cross" Marica was pinned to before we fight radagon is an Arc.
Her Soreseal and the Symbol associated with her is an exact replica of the catalysts Horncent Inquisitors are carrying.
What is used to activate the Great Runes and arguably connect to the Greater Will, are Rune Arcs.
It also could be argued that the Sword of Damnation is suppressing the Outer God of Frenzy.
If the Abyssal Base Serpent is on the level of an Outer God, Marica's Symbol or Seal can ward of the Influence of outer Gods, similar to the unalloyed Gold needle.
It's commonly known that most animals have a danger sense that's noticeably stronger than humans, and yet Torrent has been bravely at our side throughout all the pain and horror of this journey.
Now imagine my fear as I read the dreaded words "the spectral steed is frightened, and cannot be summoned."
The fact that he tries to shove you out the arena before becoming the Lord was a cool touch, he really doesn't want to be it just to be alive, but the player insisted.
My take on this is that Midra and scholars/sages (like the ones seen in front of the manse) were studying the 3 fingers (fingerprints in the discussion chamber), I believe the torch Nanaya holds is the unborn/born-and-immediately-killed child of Midra and her (painting with Nanaya holding her stomach) who would've maybe been the "failed" lord of frenzy flame due to Nanaya and Midra's close contact with the 3 fingers. Due to studying the 3 fingers Midra (as the lead researcher) starts to be infected by the madness however he is too "weak" (as in he does not have the resolve or willpower to become the lord of frenzy) and Nanaya tells him to endure and not succumb to the frenzy (this is why he apologizes to her before he rips out the barbed sword) and it's our intervention that finally pushes him over the edge and he decides he doesn't care anymore and would rather burn everything than have to endure any more sufering.
Congratulations, you reminded me in the first 2 minutes of the video that From Soft used to make horror games.
Something I noticed are the fingerprints still glowing from heat on the ground where you find Midra... Maybe the three fingers where there before being moved somehow? The proximity with Metyr can't be random either.
I mean the Three Fingers only appeared for the nomadic merchants due to their chants and in the cutscene where they grab us they do just kinda pop out of the ground. I doubt they have to be physically moved to places.
I like how you put Little Nightmares music in the beginning considering that I’ve always wanted to make a fanfic between it and Elden Ring (or any Fromsoft game).
I just love the idea of the tarnish seeing some helpless old man crawling around and his first thought is "he is completely deserving of my ULTIMATE ATTACK!"🤣🤣
This man saved every possible future by holding back the Frenzied Flame. To defeat him and thus contain the Flame honors him and ensures his suffering was not in vain. To lose however. That is his worst nightmare.
Midra is a boss you can face nobly. And know you are doing the right thing in putting him to rest.
I gotta request a "Mohg Didn't Want This" video now
I haven’t seen anyone theorizing on why the animals line up like the execution line, but other than that as always great video, I personally loved this new area more than any other in the dlc, the towering trees were so imposing but so gorgeous, forcing your eyes to look up at the chasm you just descended
What's beautiful about the Frenzied Flame is that it does not discriminate. Hell, even spirits get to join the melting pot.
In one of the rooms before the fight with Midra there are some fingers and eggs (the lampreys?) covered with orange blankets. Perhaps to finish off Marika, the Hornsents decided to study the fingers that guided her, but they found the Frenzied Flame.
Nanaya's eyes are covered in all depictions of her so im convinced thats it's actually shibriri.
"Melt away all that divides and distinguishes"
"The flame of frenzy burns the eyes, but tranquility follows in its wake."
I don't think it's a coincidence that the symbol of the frenzied outer god is not a yellow flame, but a _black hole_ surrounded by yellow flame.
The god itself is *_nonexistence._* Zero disparity. Zero life, zero inanimate objects, zero spirits, simply an empty void left. The Frenzied Flame is simply the _tool_ to accomplish this (which is why it surrounds the void, in the image of the frenzied god), a kind of "universal solvent" to melt away everything in existence, physical or spirit.
The frenzied god's primary obstacle is life, which has an in-built compulsion to keep on going, to keep creating more of itself through more births. How to overcome life's compulsion to continue? Through sheer pain. Hence the screams and torment of those afflicted by frenzyflame. The frenzied god is making the case to its primary obstacles, living things, that they'd be better off melted away.
7:16 this shot of Midra goes hard.
I think we see him "succeed" in becoming Lord of Frenzied Flame during our Boss-fight, because he finally succumbs to the pain, and embraces his roll, hence the title.
He was able to endure for Nanaya, but us bashing him around was the straw that broke the camel's back and triggered his change.
"What crime did great Midra commit?"
"Are we not brethren?"
Shabriri's crime was the slander of Midra
Is it slander if Midra actually legit was doing it?
Was Shabriri even alive at this point in the Timeline?
@@es-rh8ooyes. He would have been. This was all pre shattering, post Liurnian mage war.
I also think of the three fingers, that maybe they somehow crawled from Manus Metyr to Midra, and witnessed the Frenzied Flame, instead of being born from it, telling me that even they are not beyond corruption.
This area, is what clicked for me. All these questions entered my mind. Who was Midra, why did he loose his way, this horror mansion loosely reminded me of Resident Evil
I believe the torch is made of the spinal column of Nanaya’s (and Midra’s?) baby. That’s why it’s small and the mother ‘cradled’ it until she died. She is obviously pregnant in the painting. I think the baby became afflicted with the Frenzied Flame through Midra, who was researching it, unleashing it into the area. Nanaya was trying to prevent Midra from becoming Lord of Frenzied Flame himself after their baby’s death, that’s why she kept telling him to “endure”.
Tell me why little nightmares theme fit so perfectly for the frenzy flame of madness @AgtJake ohh btw he was set up by his wife she was a maiden of the frenzy , u can find the 3 fingers plus she put frenzy on their child’s spinal column, and if you read the description, it looks like their son was supposed to be the lord of frenzy, but died young, so her second best option was her husband, and the frenzy saw him as weak because he didn’t fully embrace the madness. he didn’t fully let go, and yes she was pregnant it’s in the files, the only time he showed no weakness is when we fight him
The Little Nightmares II OST fits so perfectly omg I'm crying...
The Little Nightmares 2 menu theme goes hard my guy
He kinda reminds of the gaping maw dragon with his ribcage and the sword sticking out like that. Kinda like he hungers as well.
The way the boss room gets set on fire the more and more u get his health down was so spectacular to see I almost died to him after my 5th try because I was so amazed
Messmer seems to have no presence in the region, and several of the Hornsent Inquisitors have themselves fallen to the Frenzied Flame. I suspect that the Inquisitors were cut off from their civilization years ago and may have absolutely no knowledge that Belurat fell, and I further suspect that unless Midra is Marika's father as some have speculated, Messmer has no knowledge of the Abyssal Woods. That, or he feels it's better to just leave the place alone.