Passport vs Edge vs Murano Drag Race: If You Want The Quickest Crossover, Buy This One!
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- Опубликовано: 23 фев 2019
- ( www.TFLcar.com ) Mike, Andre and Nathan drag race three brand new crossovers to see which one is the quickest at a mile above sea-level.
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I personally love how much induction noise you get in the Honda even though I would assume a typical crossover buyer wouldn’t. I could listen to that V6 all day 🎵
Agreed, also in the Murano
These all have different missions. The Murano is trying to be premium. The Passport is trying to be rugged. The Edge is trying to be sporty. I think they’re all pretty competent in their missions
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I love the sound of that V6. So my vote goes to Honda.
Nissan will always lose because they’re using that cvt.
They better tighten that shit up...
It is slow, but I’ve found them to be quite reliable
What's loose?
AaronR haha 😂
I used to love Nissans, but their dedication to the CVT has lost me as a buyer.
That Passport sounds great
Anything in life can be solved by a good drag race!
The Honda V6 sounds legit.
Always puts a grin on my face when I go WOT on my TLX. And then when the VTEC kicks in (yo), the grin goes to crazy laughter. I then look over at my wife, and she's probably wondering WTF is wrong with me.
Yeah it has an awesome sound
Yup love the sound of my accord turbo too
It sounds amazing . . . and that's coming from a regular Honda HATER(me).
Imagine if they got an Edge with the 2.7 Ecoboost.
Fruitably YT LOL you don't even have facts to back up what you said
Trenton_ A Looks like we found an upset Murano owner.
Steven D lol ikr
They make one.
As it stands for this comparison, the Edge cost approximately $4000 more than the Honda. Based on cost, performance, cost of ownership and predicted reliability.. I'll take the Passport hands down.
That VQ will last forever!
How are they pulling 10 second times on the Murano. You need to adjust your starting technique guys. Should be in the 8s range at your altitude. Runs mid 7s at sea level by dragy easily.
because its a shit CVT LOL
And Honda does 5.8 -6.2 0-60 at sea level so , there’s that
Right.
@lukasbruno3739 No, it's not because of the CVT. Motor Trend tested the 2019 Murano and got a 0-60 time of 7.3 seconds. These guys don't know how to drive it. Yes, CVT's can be a reliability problem. But they aren't making the car slow in this test.
The interior noice level in the Ford compared to the Honda when the camera feed was switching back was significantly lower in the Ford. I have a Ford Fusion which is the same platform the edge is based off of; and I love the smoothness and quietness of it.
my 2015 edge is dead silent when driving i love it
it's funny how people look at cars totally differently. I'm looking into a 2021 Honda passport which is the same engine as the pilot, and I absolutely love the engine noise. I think I even want a aftermarket intake and exhaust to make it even louder.
I drove a 2020 Edge SEL with the EcoBoost 4 cylinder and found it to be much quieter than the 2011 Limited I owned.
The Titanium audio system by Bang&Olufsen (Harman) is running ANC, and yes it is very quiet - the only sound you hear in the cabin is from the injectors tapping.
Just bought the Awd passport exl, we've had it over a month and haven't red lined it and only managed to dip into vtec once ,it makes enough low end to not have to thrash it even loaded with 5 people and a cooler ,stroller and groceries in the back we love it ! It is a essential dad tool
Love watching stylish Nathan and Andre in these videos.
Does the honda come with the 10k rear piston kit thats needed like all the vans we keep them in stock at honda to much heat on rear bank and tuned to lean they change tune when misfire code comes on and then if it comes back they put 3 pistons and rings in brand new car do you want one?Not me and I have worked for honda for 6 years auto 12 in motorcycle.
Awesome, would love to see more of these, compact crossovers next?
Where’s the Blazer? And that Honda sounds so good!
Chris Jacobs well the Equinox doesn’t have a 6 pot yet the traverse is a segment above so the Blazer will have to do.
@Chris Jacobs The new for last year gen 3 Equinox dropped the 3.6!
In China I think.
No one cares about Chevy.
They forgot the Lexus RX350
A Ford Edge ST starts at $42k, is very well equipped, and will destroy the three tested crossovers in acceleration.
Then it'll destroy itself, because Ford V6 + turbocharger = recipe for disaster. Turbos never outlive N/A engines. Then you compare Ford engines (lol) to a Honda engine (they make engines for a living).
eksentrysyti my dads ford engine has 220,000 miles on it. i’m pretty sure anything will last if you take care of it
@PeePee2000 Not without plenty of maintenance, timing belts, etc. Modern Fords are just as durable. You biased Japanese cheerleaders really need to stop it.
@PeePee2000 lol my f450 chipper truck has 428 k only replaced the clutch and a few injectors and throttle position sensors
@@eksentrysyti say that to all of the million mile turbo desiel trucks in the world.
What is the aftermarket mods for the engines like? I'm curious how fat these engines can be pushed?
What's the use of having drag race episodes if you going to change the rule and have the result based on 0-60?
Did you race the Passport with winter tires? I wonder if propre summer or 4 seasons tire would improve the performance...
The Murano with AWD is supposed to get 28 mpg highway so I'd buy it for that reason alone. I sat in one and it was nice for my tall height factor as well
I come from a Ford family, always loved my Hondas but somehow ended up in a Murano! Real world power and fuel mileage is more than adequate. Another plus for the VQ engine is that it is multi port fuel injected and not direct injection. DI has a tendency to dilute the oil with gasoline and requires the owner to pay close attention to oil changes. Just a heads up really. The CVT in mine has 115k on it and still operates as it should.
Id pit my 2012 edge against these. I feel the 285hp v6 has much better power than the 4 banger ford uses now
For real my 07 edge would spank these all day my 0-70 is 6.2 with few mods stock was 6.6
@@White_Ghost30z what all have you done to it?
I like the Honda. Last year I drove a 2008 Honda Pilot with 200k + miles and it drove extremely well. I was very impressed with it.
Why did you run Ford and its entry engine not the mid engine 3.5 naturally aspirated or its top of the line 2.7 twin turbo?
Any sport modes used? Honda 9-speed starts in 2nd IIRC, any attempt to start it in 1st gear to see if there's a difference?
The Range Rover Evoque 9-spd did that too, and when Roman tested it, the 0-60 was sh!t. When I had one as a loaner from Land Rover, manual mode starting in 1st gear was blistering for a 2 ton 4x4. (yes they really are that heavy)
At sea level passport. At ground level passport. At air level passport. Great review guys!! Passport wins!!
I wonder if those 0-60 times will reduce if you do the test at sea level.
I like the looks of the Edge more than all of them and I've owned a lot of Honda's. Also, I couldn't hear the engine in the Edge. I think I might go back to a Ford.
The Edge looks better. The Passport looks too much like the Pilot and the Ridgeline. While the Edge only looks like itself. Edge any day for me
That passport sure is a beast and pretty good in terms of looks 👍👍👍
I love watching videos that show Nissan's garbage CVTs failing at life as usual.
If you buy a crossover based on 0-60 times...you're losing at life.
@@pussydestroyer87 Crossovers in general are stupid. I just like to laugh at Nissan for putting shitty transmissions in their cars.
Shawn M the wife and I love ours. Had it for about 4 years and other than a wheel bearing, and replacing the brakes, we’ve had no major repairs. It’s got just over 100k on it too.
I wouldn't laugh too hard. That 9 speed in the passport is worse than anything nissan uses.
Shawn M The 9 speed isn’t that good but it’s still better than a Jatco, aka Crapco CVT. I’d rather have the 9 speed over a CVT that smothers the power and has high rates of premature failures.
Can you do a track race? As in going around corners?
You guys need to try launching Passport on Sand mode then toggle right away to normal. The response off the light is noticeably quicker from sand mode..
Hi Guys, I just bought the Honda. For me, it was a hard decision between the Grand Cherokee and Passport. But, thanks for all the info you guys put out. I think you made 3 videos of the passport, and they helped alot.
Shoulda went grand cherokee
@@carsondavis4047 bahahah until you have to get a tow because it’s made of chrysler parts.
also the interior quality is just no.
Wow that Edge was quiet while being quick! The Honda sounded like a swarm of bee's coming for you.
I wonder if Nathan hit the click at the bottom of the pedal when he was in the Murano. That engages full WOT.
The Honda’s the best though it still looks like a van to me 😐. Great video as always, guys.
Yea that Honda sounds pretty nice! And looks the best for sure !
Yeah, the Murano and the Passport sound very nice!
Honda! It also has a better exhaust note! :)
Not exhaust note, induction noise from VTEC.
Nice video guys, well made. I ask you to make a drag race to compare the new Toyota corolla hatchback and the civic hatchback, can you make it?
Add in the Kia Forte, as I've seen article about both the Corolla and the Forte being "Civic killers".
Easy win for the civic
Marwan Tarabay i think so, but i want to see it
José Vides the civic hatchback sport touring will destroy that carolla
NeoGee false the si and sport touring hatchback kill the forte by almost a whole second
Well 90% of the world is below 5000 feet so Passport wins 90% of the time.
tylough so true!
Technical Tyler ST Trim Edge...
Alright! Andre finally won a drag race ... and smiled! Go Andre Go!
I love the Suzuki hat. I've owned 2 Muranos now because they are quiet, comfortable and reliable. Mine were both made in Japan, like my Suzuki motorcycle that is MUCH quicker than these interstate road couches😉 Different jobs, different tools~
The one thing that Ford did was eliminate the NA V6 in the lower trim levels. From 2015-2018, Ford made the V6 a $495 option and reduced the horsepower by 5 compared to the 2011-2014 Edge. They wanted to push the turbocharged 4 cylinder for the sake of fuel efficiency (CAFE requirements). However, that V6 was the most efficient and reliable engine for the Edge (water pump issues notwithstanding). These 4 cylinders have been very problematic because of a coolant intrusion issue in one of the cylinders. Many Edge owners with these motors have had to get them replaced entirely because of this issue. The 6 cylinders, on the other hand, never had that and were actually better suited for the Edge.
Honda!
So why did you not set the Ford Edge 6 cyl against the other V6s. Why?
The edge looks like a oversized fusion
I picked up my Passport EX-L AWD (which to me, feels fully loaded) for $37k. Sport AWD with cloth interior will go for $34k.
I’m loving this ride for my soft road adventures.
Would love to see a Blazer and the turbo CX5 against the Edge and the Passport. I am actually in the process of deciding which one to get between CX5, Passport, Edge (top trims) or RDX (A-spec trim).
Omar, are you talking about the Titanium or ST? The ST is the one to get if you want some punch.
Can't believe how quiet the ford is in the interior.
Only TFL will drag race crossover suvs. Because the 1/4 mile is whats most important when buying one of these. Haha love it. Yall should mess with Alex on Autos and have him get in on doing 1/4 times in his videos. It may earn him quite a few more views and excitment to his channel.
Honda Passport! Can you imagine how much fun in a manual transmission?
Did you guys also try 0-60 on the Ford going downhill like the other two? The video showed it going the other way which is uphill. And no surprise the Nissan is a slug.
Personally I like the Looks of the Ford.
Does anyone buy any of these for how fast it makes the 1/4? I'm more interested in which SUV/CUV is more capable in bad weather/ road conditions since that is where they are designed to excel. A drag race is the same as "which is the best dump truck" to me. I will never drag race my SUV (or use it as a dump truck). I'm a bit confused as to why the guys even made this video.
They probably made the video in part for fun. While I doubt many people if anybody buys a crossover to race with its probably considered a plus if it can be abit fun when you step on the gas. Then some folks worry about getting out into traffic. As for which of these are best in bad weather,probably Pass Port. I'm not sure how good the Edge and Mourano are on slick roads. But Nathan did a video with the Pass Port in the snow. It looked to me like it was doing its job pretty good. The job of restricting Nathans fun in the snow. The Rav4 which he also tested didn't seem to want him to get to crazy either. I actually wouldn't mind seeing a video of how good ALL of the AWD crossovers do in bad weather. Just not sure if its really possible for TFL to test that or not.
It's not really about the drag-race, it's more about acceleration. That is important to many people believe it or not.
You must be fun at a party Buzz Killington! Lol
Ever heard of fun and also good show of acceleration to merge on to highways etc. Etc.
Perhaps not, but they could have tested these 3. I would have really enjoyed a video showing how they compared in not ideal driving conditions.
Ha Ha! A Toyota Prius can merge onto a highway just fine. If I want want fun I drive in my HEMI Charger, not a V6 or I4 SUV. Thats just me though. A 0-60 test, which they did, is a good test of acceleration for a highway merge. A drag race between SUV's is pointless IMO. Kind of like drag racing golf carts.
I wander how the new Blazer will do against those 3 ??
nathan you are awesome bro!
I kind of understand having the standard Ecoboost 4cyl Edge compete against the other 2 since they have similar power ratings, but the Ecoboost V6 Edge ST starts at a couple grand less than the MSRP on both the Honda and Nissan in this test, so dollar-for-dollar the Ford Edge will always win a comparison like this.
Nah. Ford had a turbocharge so of course it's gonna be a little quicker. But for reliably and value there's no comparison
@@RedmanLS3 Reliability? No modern Nissan can make that claim anymore if it has a CVT. And I remember making this comment based on VALUE and PERFORMANCE, which the Ford offered more of than both the others.
Passport won at high altitude to 60 mph so it would really win elsewhere. I'd thing edge st would be better comparison
Yep. Passport/Pilot and Edge ST have all tested 6.1 sec 0-60.
N Pooch 5.7 sec Edge ST thenewswheel.com/2019-ford-edge-st-review-tiny-truck-powerful-suv/
@@benven2161 I suspect its even quicker after a full break in. I plan to do some GPS runs in mine after I hit 2k miles.
@@jacyedwards4452 The break in period isn't true for new cars anymore.
@@magikzebra6552 Ford limits boost for the first 600 or so miles on the ecoboost vehicles. There was some noticeable gains after 1000 miles or so. With 9000 miles today its seeing 18-19lbs vs 16max during break in.
Why didn’t you use the Ford Edge ST? It would have wiped the floor with them.
You just answered your own question; the Edge ST is in a different power bracket.
@@nicholassmith7048 different price range too
From what I gather they use what the Manufacturer gives them.
Wipe the floor till like 80k miles lmao plus the car is totally different compared to these and is quite frankly a disappointment and i doubt the passport would be that far behind it still and thats without turbos and all that unreliable crap they are throwing in engine bays nowadays
they compared engines with similar power outputs... of course the much more powerful engine that's in a different price and hp bracket will win.
the GLE63 AMG, the X5 M, and Porsche Macan turbo will beat all of these.
Would love to see a American shootout between the Edge, Blazer and Grand Cherokee
The Honda Passport vs Ford Edge, the winner goes to the Passport and the reason is the Ford Edge barely beats the Honda Passport in the drag race. So due to the fact that the Ford Edge costs about $7,000 more than Honda Passport and has fewer accessories than the Honda Passport. I would go with the Honda Passport by a mile over the Ford Edge. Hopefully, one day the chief executive officer at Ford Motor Company will finally wake up. So my buying car decision is final. I am going with the Honda Passport Touring or Elite in February 2020.
Why not test the edge with the 2.7l echoboost V6? Then you’re comparing apples to apples!
Passport FTW our 2023 passport is an amazing vehicle!
Dude you almost had me.
I never had you, I never had your car.
Monica!!!!!
Warm in’ up to the Honda. The blacked out Elite AWD is a winner!
For all the people saying why didn't they test the Ford edge st. Its because it's not in the same price or performance bracket. Similarly equipped the st is a 50,000$ car. They didn't test it for the same reason they didn't test an X5 M.
That Murano looks terrible. Honda looks nice and I kinda like the basic styling of the Edge. I think the Honda is the best option though.
The Honda looks terrible too
I agree 100%.
@osholeeⓋ yes, she looks like the pilot, sorry the passport
Edwin Alfredo Honda does not look terrible now get that out your head
@@reynardrouser7863 of course daddy
where turbo just about loses breath, VTEC begins to kick in ;-)
I have the 2021 passport sport AWD and boy is fast. Faster than I thought. I love it. It's everything that a real sport SUV should be
@@truavenger656 you should go to china and drive a honda avancier aka UR-V
Edit : its so much better than passport and pilot
"It looks like a Ford. It feels like a Ford....because it is a Ford." - Nathan@TFL
"And the women loved me! They thought I was Elvis! Because I WAS Elvis...impersonating Elvis." - Bubba Hotep
thought the similarity was humorous
We love our Murano. Great car.
What year?
2020 💯
Lool, the edge intercooler already heat synced , not fair to ford, also it's very known in ecoboost owners that we shift at 5500
Dude with the glasses looks like the actor from time machine 😭😭😭😭🤣
where is blazer??
sofo gachechiladze Mexico
I need to know if that edge was in sport mode it didn’t look like it
I’m a commuter with combined city and highway driving. The Edge is close enough for 0-60, and seemingly won the drag race. Unless fuel economy is vastly different, the obvious winner is the Passport because of the surprising price difference. Unfortunately, I already bought the 2019 Ford Edge Elite AWD. Hindsight is 20/20...I should have shopped around. Wish this video was out earlier!
The Edge is the right choice IMO, and assuming you bought the Titanium as there is no Elite trim in the edge but there is in the Passport. Similar equipment packages (Passport Elite VS Edge Titanium) the Edge is cheaper. Also the Edge is more fuel efficient Combined/Highway/City 23/28/21 vs the Passport 21/24/19. Check out the comparison here www.thecarconnection.com/car-compare-results/honda_passport_2019-vs-ford_edge_2019?trims=40075660,40073637
As a Passport owner who has the edge 2.0 as a company car, both are fine vehicles. The edge is waaayyy better in fuel economy, but for camping trips, the passport is superior.
I should have been more specific. I own the Edge Titanium AWD w/301 option group and the "Elite" package which is what the reviewers were driving.
At a lower elevation the Passport would leave the Edge behind. In this video, the turbo made the difference. Edge is a bit smaller as well... However, in real-world, the turbo in the Edge can result in lower MPG. Fuelly results show 2.0 Edge getting about 1MPG more than Pilot. (Passport is too new to be on Fuelly, but will likely be close.) Bottom line, it's a good comparison cause both vehicles are close. If you're happy with the Edge, then you're good to go...it's a good vehicle!
N Pooch lol
I'm disappointed you didn't mention the benefits of a CVT, that being gas milage. How about comparing the three on that static. I have a 2015 Murano, the acceleration has always been all I needed and I get 23.9 mpg in town.
You also failed to mention that compared to the premium Edge the premium Murano also has air conditioned front seats.
Honda is the most reliable, I’d much rather get a little less fuel economy and not have a CVT transmission that goes out.
Edge Titaniums and STs come with Air Conditioned front seats.
I'm looking for an apples to apples race between these. Either the v6's or the most potent engine's they offer.
The passport actually likes to be brake torqued in sport... I have one, I know...
damn that passport sounds gooood
Next drag race minivans with soccer equipment and groceries. You should have here as well.
Wow that Murano is slow. That CVT is programmed to save fuel. Nissan should really go back to standard automatic transmission. I am glad that Infiniti still uses automatic. We have a 2007 G35 with 140,000 and the car still runs like a brand new car. Our other Japanese car is a Q50 red sport with 38k miles and very solid so far.
I am a fan of Nissan/ Infiniti but the clear winner here is Honda Passport.
Why not v6 ford st.?
Cause it's not in the same price bracket
@@NateDawg0007 It actually is ($42,000 to start) but the 4cyl had more similar power figures to the other 2.
If only the ecooboost sounded that well! Arguments would be over.
Does anyone else notice at 3:30 he is holding the d box with the time in the Ford Edge saying 10.22 but he just did the run with the Nissan with that time
Yes, I did notice that. Something's funny there. That Murano can do 0-60 in the 7's, not 10.22.
I wonder if the Honda would take the 0-60 at sea level
The morano looks like the Maxima, and the rogue.
Nissan CVT will explode 1st, then Honda's automatic will have issues later, and Ford's ecoboost get slower as carbon builds up from lack of PFI and maybe the turbo will explode like a dying star
itsMike Ford actually corrected the carbon issue during the 1st generation Ecoboosts but I question the longevity of turbo gas engines in general. I guess they’re ok though, never owned one.
2.3/2.0 is just GDI, 3.5 2nd gen, 2.7,5.0, and 3.3 have PFI and GDI
Im pretty sure honda took car of that 9 speed a lil while ago
Xela Oso they did but it’s not even a Honda transmission, it’s the ZF 9speed from the Chrysler Pacifica, Jeep Compass/renegade, Land Rover discovery sport/rr evoque, etc
Look TFLcar, this is a great video. Love seeing multiple vehicles, side-by-side, competing. Shown separately, facts and tests are forgotten.
Nathan is right, the Nissan looks good, all dressed up but can't go!
The Ford, nice but $$$.
The Passport is the best for the $$$, wait a year or 2 and Honda will discount it 2k or 3k. They should dress it up a little or hide the silver ones from these videos. Show any other color.
Do more of these head-to-head videos. Mid-Size and Full-size trucks, compact cars......
Let me put my Murano out there. I will waste them in mine. They dont know how to drive them. I have no problem getting my Murano to move.
For me, the Edge has been the better buy. First, the Passport lacks the room due to its smaller dimensions. I was far from comfortable sitting in a Passport and a Pilot. Muranos are on my stay far away from list because of the CVT and the bland styling. I am on my third Edge after trading my previous two in after 105k and 183k respectively. All have been way more reliable than the Maximas I owned.
With Ford canceling the Edge after 2023, I am either going to stick with used Edges, Expedition Platinum, Explorer ST, or go German (Audi/Porsche).
Should of had the Ford Edge 3.5 V6 for this one
I think Nathan should have been one of the racers because he’s obviously the best driver there. 😜
Hey how about getting the Edge with the v6 out there. We know it would win then.
If they had put the Ford Edge ST in the video top of the line against top of the line then the video would of been over on the first run.
This video was sponsored by Honda
Fr they in bed with honda😂
I’ve always been a Honda guy. Have owned or leased 6 or 7 Hondas with zero problems. However, I do know Honda’s quality is suffering lately, especially their transmissions. I hope they rectify the quality problems.
The Honda was quicker despite the high altitude without having a turbo.. Would love to see another drag race with the Edge at sea level.
@Eat Jat Yeah you are right. I thought of that because the Ford has a higher torque despite the lower displacement engine.
And I'm not sure but i suspect that its lighter than the Honda? Not sure though.
Run the Edge ST against the Blazer :) But the Edge has to have 1500 or more miles on it Ford has computer locked down so you don't get all the post until motor is broken in. Same thing with the Edge you tested. If it has just a few hundred miles your not getting all the power and needs high test according to the manual to get the full hp as well.
Not true. The 2021 ST I drove did not have that restriction. In fact, I even drove it in Sport Mode and it FLEW.
I know the ST is more expensive, but I still would've liked to have seen how fast it is.
Having driven three STs, I tend to lean toward the 2021 and up model years. The 2019s had a transmission shift issue when shifting from 2-3 (I experienced this firsthand on a brand new 2019 ST). That is why Ford went to a 7 speed on the 2021 and up model years.
Would be interesting to see how a Tiguan compares.
A new 0-60 test video? That means we all take shots anytime you hear "naturally aspirated" or "a mile above sea level".
That Honda is SO LOUD, my god.... look how quiet the Edge is.
The Passport may not have won the drag race but numbers don't lie! It is most definitely the quickest of the 3. And I'm willing to bet as far as long term goes the Passport will be the most dependable of the 3 as well! Passport is my pick any day.
The Edge ST would smoke all 3.. no prob
@@TK-xy5zm Edge ST would most def, but it's not a direct comparison to the Murano or Passport, so it wouldn't be a fair fight.