Oh yes, because someone who CONSTANTLY expresses her hatred of white people and even beats up her own brother-in-law because she "can't resist kicking a white man when he's down" is truly a wise person.
Denise is making very valid points about Black spaces and that we as a people need to feel comfortable around each other. Though I feel sympathy for Paul because it seems that no matter what he does he gets put down for it.
Nobody discussed it, but PAUL changed too. It wasn't just the black people putting on the code switch voice. Paul started talking differently as well. When the teacher friend said something and he said, "Girl, don't let them do you like that," we've seen Paul long enough to know that he doesn't naturally speak like that. Paul was trying too hard to fit in. I really wish the show would have had Alicia bring that up to him.
why would non black students go to the black student union and did every group have their own student union ? I worked in a very diverse office with lots of immigrants people naturally gravitated towards the people they were most comfortable with
Well said, Denise. Now I hope he remains willing to understand and respect that truth rather than just dismiss it, gaslight others, get snarky and rude, and/or get defensive just because it is something that he can't personally relate to based on his experiences.
@@LMLification it’s a matter of what our culture is to majority of us and how we feel comfortable in and have every right to want that like everyone else. He wasn’t even invited but all most on this thread can see is “how dare you tell us no because we want to be in your space too and you should let us because if you don’t that’s racist.” Kind of like how it was presented to black people in America to make their own spaces since we weren’t allowed in white spaces but when we did, it became oh no you can’t do that either. Can’t have it both ways.
@@tastemakercc Exactly. Agreed. Don't push us into our own spaces to begin with and then have an attitude after when the roles are reversed and you're kept out.
*Every space that exists is already a white space. And when we come into your space we don't get the same treatment as you do* Lots of people need to hear that one
So she needs to hold his hand while he figures it out? She's not his wife nor his mother, she's done more for him with this conversation than was even necessary and clearly he figures it out: step aside and let your black wife be black. It's not that difficult a concept
If you travel to another country, you do research on the country so you know how to behave. This is a smaller version of that, you interact with a different ethnic/cultural group, especially if you date/marry someone from that group, you need to make the effort to learn, it shouldn't just be up to that person or their community to explain everything. Sometimes folks get frustrated about having to explain things to white people, and white people that that means they are being divisive/exclusionary etc. but remember they have to learn how to get along in white dominated society. No one is going to be patient with them over it.
@live love Um no, then Paul' sister n law could be his step mom too..LOL That wouldnt work or maybe it would for laughs. Then Aunt D could start ordering Paul around and be like Im your step mom you better listen to me now.
I honestly don't want to come across insensitive this question is merely for better holistic understanding on the topic, but what is the issue really with him participating in the the events they throw? She mentions them glorifying his actions there, but how is that his fault to deal with? Can't he just show up and participate...? He wasn't asking for special treatment, that was their collective choice to do so...
Denise was pointing out a cultural dynamic that just sort of... exists. When white people participate in black events, a lot of us instinctively gravitate toward that white person to make them feel as welcomed and comfortable as possible. It's not really a bad thing or something that we should stop doing (there are worse reputations than Unbridled Hospitality), but we stop being ourselves when it happens. A gathering of friends & family transforms into a group effort to please the visiting white person. Once we start to notice that kind of thing about ourselves, it starts to conjure up images of grinning tap-dancing black servants wearing white gloves, which makes us uncomfortable. Paul wasn't necessarily doing anything wrong or racist or anything. He just needs to be aware of that in the future, which might involve going to fewer functions with Alicia or simply making an effort to blend in rather than allowing himself to become the center of attention. If he finds a way to blend in, everyone will see him as Alicia's Husband rather than Visiting White Man That Must Be Pleased, and it'll eventually stop being an issue altogether.
@@manicwebb Question, how do you know the white person was even comfortable? If to you, being treated like that is uncomfortable, wouldn't that goes the same with the said white person? Also, your second statement goes both ways, they also have to stop doing that. Sure, he needs to change his mannerism but they also have to see he's just a man who's married to Alicia.
@@DonoZeek But also to your comment awareness of dynamics is always present whether you want to acknowledge them or not. Based on history white people have been made comfortable in others spaces and even lands and not just blacks. But the same has not been reciprocated to them. It’s like a bringing your husband into a women’s salon, the same thing applies.
@@DonoZeek Actually it does not power dynamics are one sided. You can’t be at the top and bottom at the same time. You would be uncomfortable because you are a male in women’s salon, which is a safe space for women. But women would be uncomfortable in a space that was made for women them due to having to accommodate someone who is not designated for the space by gender and/or culture. Racial dynamics is also the same way as I stated history past and current show do to white privilege, white people are made to feel welcome in spaces not designated for them, but not reciprocated. The necessity of these spaces is due to racism and discrimination of blacks and POC. Jim Crow is big example.
For people wondering why it’s such a problem you need to realise what it took for black people the create those spaces. We were shunned from every community, told we weren’t good enough, didn’t fit in or represent the ideal narrative so we created our own space where we could be who we want to be without judgement. When another race steps into those spaces it’s a treat to our community because it’s the only place we’re allowed to be. Enjoy black spaces but don’t make yourself the centre of it, you will be met with smoke!
@@madgemackles4337 I'm just saying you can post about how you respect other people's boundaries but completely contradict your point by how you act. I don't know you personally but others who may interact with you may treat you differently because of who you are. That's just a part of life.
@@Neku628 I don’t know if you’re the type of person who wants to analyze people and their thoughts, you do seem like the type. I wasn’t born in little ole America so I could care less about someone’s skin color because where I’m from and how I was raised, someone is not who they are until you see what’s inside of them. So you can take your little analysis and keep it. Furthermore, your statement makes no sense, like your initial comment.
I don't think I can get down with this. It feels like ascribing the rights of where certain people are allowed to go based solely on their race, which is _exactly_ what segregation was. There's nothing wrong with people of a certain race feeling comfortable in a certain area or an area being predominated by a certain race. But no political or social laws should ever mandate any space as exclusive to a certain race. The US is dominated by "White" spaces, but Black people should have the right to be in any of them, just like white people should have the right to be in any "black" space. If you treat them differently the problem is not with the person entering, the problem is with you. Let people go where they want to go and do what they want to do. There's nothing wrong with that so long as they aren't hurting anyone and this feels like a slippy slope of defining people by race all over again.
You're missing the point. Groups have their own spaces. There's Chinatown, Koreatown and Little Tokyo. There's Filipino town and Little Armenia. All these spaces exist in various parts of Los Angeles California. Members of these groups have Black, Latino and white co-workers and perhaps friends. You see, you can have space AND co-exist with others. See people don't really question Asian and Latino spaces. It's understood and respected. However, when Black folks just voice wanting space we get push back from other people. Even some Black people. Just as other groups don't want us around all the time, we likewise need a break from other people.
You can hurt people with your ignorant presence too, not just with your words & intentions. You started off okay and you made some fine points, but you ultimately missed the point of what was being said. It wasn't about political or social laws, it was about how the requirements for anti-racism DO compel you to treat groups differently at times based on race (in this example, anti-racism means understanding how/why Black spaces are sacred, and why you (a non-Black person) don't always need to be in them, while traditionally white spaces don't deserve that same treatment/mindfulness)
@@jesushateswood I think this is just plain stupid. I´m latina and idk how it works in America, but i have never seen anyone wanting to have a break from people of other races like wth. Maybe it´s because in Latin America we don´t really have "black culture" or "white culture" it´s just the culture of whatever country we live in regadless of what race we are. What do you mean we don´t want you(black people) around all the time? I dont just wake up in the morning like "wow, i´m feeling like throwing a party with only white people" what difference does it make the skin color of the people you are playing cards with? Segregation really f-ed you guys up.
@@Fan_Girl-xd8wy Valentina, the United States is very different from you people. We (Americans) have a long history of whites not wanting Blacks around. There were and ARE practices created by whites to keep Black people at a distance. It still exists but the manifestation as changed. Because you are an outsider you don't understand. The need for some SPACE from other groups is for our physical and mental health. You say you are Latina. I KNOW you people make distinctions. When I see the various groups of Latinos represented in a POSITIVE way, they are the WHITE ones. White Latino are in your tv/films and on the cover of your magazines. How often is an Afro Latina SEEN on the cover of your magazines? How many Afro-Latinas are the chosen WIVES or girlfriends in your tv/films? Do not paint a picture of racial perfection in the Latino world. It is dishonest.
Just describing that part where Paul danced had me cringe a little. I love Paul usually. I love how supportive he is and how involved he wants to be. but. if he crashed a social event he wasn't initially invited to then it's a little understandable to be upset at him. The people watching this should be used to Denise's bluntness by now. She's never been afraid to tell Paul what she really thinks. That's their dynamic.
All this because a white man wanted to be included in a card game? I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure black people don't have a monopoly on spades. Edit: what makes this even more messed up is that if you do your research, spades was originally invented by white people. So who are Alicia and Denise to shut Paul out? Especially considering he went out of his way to learn something his wife enjoyed just to impress her, only to be reprimanded for it. It's moments like these that make me wish I could jump into the screen and call these characters out on their bs😤Paul didn't deserve to be treated like that. He's such a wholesome boi and I wanted to hug him so bad🥺
What I find about this is that imagine if the roles were reversed? She would have been lecturing him on racism and inclusion. You can’t have it being just one way. If you want to have your space as a black person then you can’t be mad at a white person who wants their space.
@@keithkoganeislife3144 yeah these people act so entitled like "Your ancestors did mean things to mine and we sometimes get discriminated against because of our race, so that somehow gives me the right to criticize and low key bully you for no reason. Never mind that I have it made compared to to my grandparents/great grandparents and I don't know what you go through (you could be depressed and suicidal for all I know). My feelings will always be more valid than yours because you are white and privileged, and I will continue to make snap judgments about you, shut you out, and make you feel like you have to apologize for being white. And I will get away with it because on average my race has it worse than yours and woke culture gives me special treatment as a result. Screw white people." Whether they realize it or not, this is really how it comes across and we can't say anything because, well.......see above. Remember kids: Black people can't be racist!😑
@@izzieb.2926 yeah I mean I’m a coloured person myself and I say is racism is not a one way street. Nor is it a system. A system can be racist but racism is not a system.
Do other people get their own exclusive places too? Like a Polish , Russian or Jewish only place , and no one else can come there or take part in any activities
Other groups don’t talk this way, that “all other spaces are white spaces”…. It’s a ridiculous notion and the guy in this video is absolutely right. Making black spaces, black national anthems, etc only serves to make divisions worse.
now I will be more aware of the white carpet I have also had the opposite experience including when I would go to reggae concerts out of hundreds of people this 1 woman would always say things like you aint supposed to be here this is for us
You know what kinda irritates me about this show? It talks about the concepts of being mixed and how it affects the family but… The actor who plays Paul is mixed. His mother is literally Indonesian and his great grandparents on his father side were murdered in the Holocaust. I get it’s from the perspective of Rainbow, but why cast a mixed actor as the father and not acknowledge his race? It would be a time to talk about white passing or how someone’s connection to their culture is not always defined by their color. Mark defines himself as Half-Asian (which he is) and talks about his connection to Indonesian culture. Seems…dare I say…a little racist to me…
Whatever.. Vénganse aquí and come play Lotería with us Latinos. We got beer, takis, agua fresca, and that good stuff. We're not afraid to act and be Latinos.
That's how I feel about this entire show. I don't even care about political correctness, it's just nonsensical how this show justifies some of the morals in preaches, espcailly when those morals are _boarder-line racist._
@@Obi-Wan_Kenobi it's not border line racist, it is racist, just cause a black woman said it in a sweet voice, doesn't change the fact it is racist, and some people just don't get it. No wonder America is stuck
The man marries as Black girl and he still can't stop being chided for being "problematic". There is something seriously wrong with the morals of this show.
@Jessica Smith agree. I was not commenting on relationships in general, but on the relationship of Paul&Alicia, which seems to be less&less about their love and more&more about bickering over white vs. black topics.
@@cocacool3491 I think Paul and Alicia are just trying to show what it was like to be an interracial couple with kids in the 1980s. Sure, they bicker a lot but I am sure the bickering is a product of the time.
More and more I think these shows aren’t about racial equality as much as bashing white people for simply existing I know our ancestors did bad shit to you but we’re not them and most of us aren’t rich or police so instead of trying to seperate races how about showing examples of how to coexist with one another rolling a white carpet or chanting white boy doesn’t make it welcoming we just think the white carpet matches the walls and for the average folk we don’t even notice we don’t care but apparently some black people do because symbolism I guess it’s just as bad as white folks doing it to black guests at their home show more effort that you’d be willing to exist rather than just slowly gravitating towards up and saying eliminate the entire white race it wasn’t good back it the 60’s when our grand parents and great grand parents said it it’s no different now if you were to reverse these rolls in the show this may as well be a show that ran in the 50’s or 60’s think on that for a bit
The staggering lack of punctuation makes your comment difficult to read, but I agree with you. Replace everything black with white and you've got the most racist show on TV but people get away with this because WOKE
It will never cease to amaze me that y'all feel like you need to have absolutely everything. Every space is automatically white by default. Y'all can play spades literally anywhere else, but the one space that is exclusively for black people because they are ostracized everywhere else, that's the one that you want to be in. That's the one that you have a problem with. Y'all have everything except this one thing and that one thing is the one you want. Now you gotta "reverse the roles" as if the roles haven't been reversed since the founding of the country that forced the creation of this space in the first place because black people having anything is apparently genocide against white people. Y'all are sick. Seek help.
@@eberechi3025 we have everything? Not in the slightest you only think that cause it’s what you think and want to see in reality there’s no safe spaces there are blacks who are just as racist as whites but because slavery was a thing people think they are entitled to something even though they aren’t the ones who lived through it well there were white slaves too once upon a time what about those reperations or Egyptians Chinese Japanese Indians every culture had slaves at some point in time we need to get past this race shit already both sides and come to the reality it doesn’t matter if your black white brown or purple with pink polka dots everyone treats each other like shit regardless of gender or color sooner y’all come to that conclusion the faster we can go to blaming someone or something else for our own misfortunes and still end up not taking any accountability for ourselves cause that’s the way humans are we blame others and will find any means necessary to blame anyone or anything except ourselves
@@madgemackles4337 and your point? You liberals have lost your freaking minds and you’re pushing this “woke” crap down everyone’s throats that couldn’t be further from real life. Thank god we have a platform that enables us to identify the wack jobs from anywhere in the world
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Denise on this show is the wisdom that so many need.
Word up dawg! Ain't nobody learning math from a book lookin ass.
Oh yes, because someone who CONSTANTLY expresses her hatred of white people and even beats up her own brother-in-law because she "can't resist kicking a white man when he's down" is truly a wise person.
Denise is making very valid points about Black spaces and that we as a people need to feel comfortable around each other. Though I feel sympathy for Paul because it seems that no matter what he does he gets put down for it.
Like rapping?
Keep that same energy when you wearing the wrong color in a so call black space.
@@sixteennumberthree5544What? You sound like the bozo who birthed you
“What u asking me for? She’s your wife!” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
"What you asking me for? She's your wife!" 😂
Nobody discussed it, but PAUL changed too. It wasn't just the black people putting on the code switch voice. Paul started talking differently as well. When the teacher friend said something and he said, "Girl, don't let them do you like that," we've seen Paul long enough to know that he doesn't naturally speak like that. Paul was trying too hard to fit in. I really wish the show would have had Alicia bring that up to him.
I love this! This is everything I tried to say for 4 years in the 80s about keeping the Black Student Union black. Thank you writers!
How to they gone put white people on the black student union. Over it
@@numba5423 Are you telling her to get over it because there's now a white student on a black student union?
Isn't that racist?
@@Neku628 yeah, if straights can be part of the LGBT union, let blacks with whites.
why would non black students go to the black student union and did every group have their own student union ? I worked in a very diverse office with lots of immigrants people naturally gravitated towards the people they were most comfortable with
Well said, Denise. Now I hope he remains willing to understand and respect that truth rather than just dismiss it, gaslight others, get snarky and rude, and/or get defensive just because it is something that he can't personally relate to based on his experiences.
I agree and if this bothers someone it’s clearly because they’re dismissing the point that’s right in front of them
@@tastemakercc Exactly. Thank you!
@@LMLification it’s a matter of what our culture is to majority of us and how we feel comfortable in and have every right to want that like everyone else. He wasn’t even invited but all most on this thread can see is “how dare you tell us no because we want to be in your space too and you should let us because if you don’t that’s racist.” Kind of like how it was presented to black people in America to make their own spaces since we weren’t allowed in white spaces but when we did, it became oh no you can’t do that either. Can’t have it both ways.
@@tastemakercc Exactly. Agreed. Don't push us into our own spaces to begin with and then have an attitude after when the roles are reversed and you're kept out.
Denise explains emotional labor of more marginalized folks spaces
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*Every space that exists is already a white space. And when we come into your space we don't get the same treatment as you do*
Lots of people need to hear that one
"What do you want us to do."
"Figure it out."
You know, because that's helpful at creating progress.
So she needs to hold his hand while he figures it out? She's not his wife nor his mother, she's done more for him with this conversation than was even necessary and clearly he figures it out: step aside and let your black wife be black. It's not that difficult a concept
If you travel to another country, you do research on the country so you know how to behave. This is a smaller version of that, you interact with a different ethnic/cultural group, especially if you date/marry someone from that group, you need to make the effort to learn, it shouldn't just be up to that person or their community to explain everything. Sometimes folks get frustrated about having to explain things to white people, and white people that that means they are being divisive/exclusionary etc. but remember they have to learn how to get along in white dominated society. No one is going to be patient with them over it.
I hope by the finale we get a plot twist and Denise shocks us all and shocks herself by ending up with a white dude.
Omg that would be EPIC!
@@izzieb.2926 It would!
Live love I’ve been saying this! The material is there!😂
@live love Um no, then Paul' sister n law could be his step mom too..LOL That wouldnt work or maybe it would for laughs. Then Aunt D could start ordering Paul around and be like Im your step mom you better listen to me now.
@@abortionismurder4265 That RUclips mokiner. I live for it all day every day.
I honestly don't want to come across insensitive this question is merely for better holistic understanding on the topic, but what is the issue really with him participating in the the events they throw? She mentions them glorifying his actions there, but how is that his fault to deal with? Can't he just show up and participate...? He wasn't asking for special treatment, that was their collective choice to do so...
Denise was pointing out a cultural dynamic that just sort of... exists. When white people participate in black events, a lot of us instinctively gravitate toward that white person to make them feel as welcomed and comfortable as possible. It's not really a bad thing or something that we should stop doing (there are worse reputations than Unbridled Hospitality), but we stop being ourselves when it happens. A gathering of friends & family transforms into a group effort to please the visiting white person. Once we start to notice that kind of thing about ourselves, it starts to conjure up images of grinning tap-dancing black servants wearing white gloves, which makes us uncomfortable.
Paul wasn't necessarily doing anything wrong or racist or anything. He just needs to be aware of that in the future, which might involve going to fewer functions with Alicia or simply making an effort to blend in rather than allowing himself to become the center of attention. If he finds a way to blend in, everyone will see him as Alicia's Husband rather than Visiting White Man That Must Be Pleased, and it'll eventually stop being an issue altogether.
@@manicwebb Question, how do you know the white person was even comfortable? If to you, being treated like that is uncomfortable, wouldn't that goes the same with the said white person?
Also, your second statement goes both ways, they also have to stop doing that. Sure, he needs to change his mannerism but they also have to see he's just a man who's married to Alicia.
@@DonoZeek But also to your comment awareness of dynamics is always present whether you want to acknowledge them or not. Based on history white people have been made comfortable in others spaces and even lands and not just blacks. But the same has not been reciprocated to them. It’s like a bringing your husband into a women’s salon, the same thing applies.
@@lilhypnotique I would be uncomfortable being in a women's salon. Also, it does go both ways. Especially when there's racial tension.
@@DonoZeek Actually it does not power dynamics are one sided. You can’t be at the top and bottom at the same time. You would be uncomfortable because you are a male in women’s salon, which is a safe space for women. But women would be uncomfortable in a space that was made for women them due to having to accommodate someone who is not designated for the space by gender and/or culture. Racial dynamics is also the same way as I stated history past and current show do to white privilege, white people are made to feel welcome in spaces not designated for them, but not reciprocated. The necessity of these spaces is due to racism and discrimination of blacks and POC. Jim Crow is big example.
For people wondering why it’s such a problem you need to realise what it took for black people the create those spaces. We were shunned from every community, told we weren’t good enough, didn’t fit in or represent the ideal narrative so we created our own space where we could be who we want to be without judgement. When another race steps into those spaces it’s a treat to our community because it’s the only place we’re allowed to be. Enjoy black spaces but don’t make yourself the centre of it, you will be met with smoke!
For me, it just depends on your vibe on how I’ll treat you. Yeah, I don’t care what the color of your skin is
Anyone can say that.
@@Neku628 you mean like what I just did? No way!
@@madgemackles4337 I'm just saying you can post about how you respect other people's boundaries but completely contradict your point by how you act. I don't know you personally but others who may interact with you may treat you differently because of who you are. That's just a part of life.
@@Neku628 I don’t know if you’re the type of person who wants to analyze people and their thoughts, you do seem like the type. I wasn’t born in little ole America so I could care less about someone’s skin color because where I’m from and how I was raised, someone is not who they are until you see what’s inside of them. So you can take your little analysis and keep it. Furthermore, your statement makes no sense, like your initial comment.
@@Neku628 I’m getting really tired of people like you, wanting to make someone’s thoughts and statement for something it is clearly not
I don't think I can get down with this. It feels like ascribing the rights of where certain people are allowed to go based solely on their race, which is _exactly_ what segregation was.
There's nothing wrong with people of a certain race feeling comfortable in a certain area or an area being predominated by a certain race. But no political or social laws should ever mandate any space as exclusive to a certain race. The US is dominated by "White" spaces, but Black people should have the right to be in any of them, just like white people should have the right to be in any "black" space. If you treat them differently the problem is not with the person entering, the problem is with you.
Let people go where they want to go and do what they want to do. There's nothing wrong with that so long as they aren't hurting anyone and this feels like a slippy slope of defining people by race all over again.
You're missing the point. Groups have their own spaces. There's Chinatown, Koreatown and Little Tokyo. There's Filipino town and Little Armenia. All these spaces exist in various parts of Los Angeles California. Members of these groups have Black, Latino and white co-workers and perhaps friends. You see, you can have space AND co-exist with others. See people don't really question Asian and Latino spaces. It's understood and respected. However, when Black folks just voice wanting space we get push back from other people. Even some Black people. Just as other groups don't want us around all the time, we likewise need a break from other people.
You can hurt people with your ignorant presence too, not just with your words & intentions. You started off okay and you made some fine points, but you ultimately missed the point of what was being said. It wasn't about political or social laws, it was about how the requirements for anti-racism DO compel you to treat groups differently at times based on race (in this example, anti-racism means understanding how/why Black spaces are sacred, and why you (a non-Black person) don't always need to be in them, while traditionally white spaces don't deserve that same treatment/mindfulness)
@@sandydlt5188 this fucked up. it really is
@@jesushateswood I think this is just plain stupid. I´m latina and idk how it works in America, but i have never seen anyone wanting to have a break from people of other races like wth. Maybe it´s because in Latin America we don´t really have "black culture" or "white culture" it´s just the culture of whatever country we live in regadless of what race we are. What do you mean we don´t want you(black people) around all the time? I dont just wake up in the morning like "wow, i´m feeling like throwing a party with only white people" what difference does it make the skin color of the people you are playing cards with? Segregation really f-ed you guys up.
@@Fan_Girl-xd8wy Valentina, the United States is very different from you people. We (Americans) have a long history of whites not wanting Blacks around. There were and ARE practices created by whites to keep Black people at a distance. It still exists but the manifestation as changed. Because you are an outsider you don't understand. The need for some SPACE from other groups is for our physical and mental health.
You say you are Latina. I KNOW you people make distinctions. When I see the various groups of Latinos represented in a POSITIVE way, they are the WHITE ones. White Latino are in your tv/films and on the cover of your magazines. How often is an Afro Latina SEEN on the cover of your magazines? How many Afro-Latinas are the chosen WIVES or girlfriends in your tv/films? Do not paint a picture of racial perfection in the Latino world. It is dishonest.
Too bad this kind of talk was nt prevalent back in The Mid 80 s until now, 3 & a 1/2 decade(s) later *sigh*
Just describing that part where Paul danced had me cringe a little. I love Paul usually. I love how supportive he is and how involved he wants to be. but. if he crashed a social event he wasn't initially invited to then it's a little understandable to be upset at him. The people watching this should be used to Denise's bluntness by now. She's never been afraid to tell Paul what she really thinks. That's their dynamic.
All this because a white man wanted to be included in a card game? I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure black people don't have a monopoly on spades.
Edit: what makes this even more messed up is that if you do your research, spades was originally invented by white people. So who are Alicia and Denise to shut Paul out? Especially considering he went out of his way to learn something his wife enjoyed just to impress her, only to be reprimanded for it. It's moments like these that make me wish I could jump into the screen and call these characters out on their bs😤Paul didn't deserve to be treated like that. He's such a wholesome boi and I wanted to hug him so bad🥺
What I find about this is that imagine if the roles were reversed? She would have been lecturing him on racism and inclusion. You can’t have it being just one way. If you want to have your space as a black person then you can’t be mad at a white person who wants their space.
@@keithkoganeislife3144 yeah these people act so entitled like "Your ancestors did mean things to mine and we sometimes get discriminated against because of our race, so that somehow gives me the right to criticize and low key bully you for no reason. Never mind that I have it made compared to to my grandparents/great grandparents and I don't know what you go through (you could be depressed and suicidal for all I know). My feelings will always be more valid than yours because you are white and privileged, and I will continue to make snap judgments about you, shut you out, and make you feel like you have to apologize for being white. And I will get away with it because on average my race has it worse than yours and woke culture gives me special treatment as a result. Screw white people."
Whether they realize it or not, this is really how it comes across and we can't say anything because, well.......see above.
Remember kids: Black people can't be racist!😑
@@izzieb.2926 yeah I mean I’m a coloured person myself and I say is racism is not a one way street. Nor is it a system. A system can be racist but racism is not a system.
@@keithkoganeislife3144 works the same way with sexism and I say that as a girl
@@izzieb.2926 of course! I totally agree. And I have experienced that kind of sexism.
1:22 Denise is spitting 🔥
Right ✅😍
Do other people get their own exclusive places too? Like a Polish , Russian or Jewish only place , and no one else can come there or take part in any activities
Yeah...this is a bit much
It's anything it's not enough
Other groups don’t talk this way, that “all other spaces are white spaces”…. It’s a ridiculous notion and the guy in this video is absolutely right. Making black spaces, black national anthems, etc only serves to make divisions worse.
Its okay to be MIXED
Denise thinks you can't learn math from a book.
Denise said the way that it needed to be said because every space is a white space and I'm glad she told the truth.
Nope. It is not. I'm not sure when viewers grew up but that is not a true statement.
now I will be more aware of the white carpet I have also had the opposite experience including when I would go to reggae concerts out of hundreds of people this 1 woman would always say things like you aint supposed to be here this is for us
You know what kinda irritates me about this show? It talks about the concepts of being mixed and how it affects the family but…
The actor who plays Paul is mixed. His mother is literally Indonesian and his great grandparents on his father side were murdered in the Holocaust.
I get it’s from the perspective of Rainbow, but why cast a mixed actor as the father and not acknowledge his race? It would be a time to talk about white passing or how someone’s connection to their culture is not always defined by their color.
Mark defines himself as Half-Asian (which he is) and talks about his connection to Indonesian culture.
Seems…dare I say…a little racist to me…
No
Whatever.. Vénganse aquí and come play Lotería with us Latinos. We got beer, takis, agua fresca, and that good stuff. We're not afraid to act and be Latinos.
Ahhh, the sanctity of Da Hood.
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The messaging here is so disappointing. I think they got it wrong.
When you take being politically correct so far that it just doesn't make any sense
That's how I feel about this entire show. I don't even care about political correctness, it's just nonsensical how this show justifies some of the morals in preaches, espcailly when those morals are _boarder-line racist._
Their ideology comes full circle to straight up segregation. Apparently there are people who genuinely believe that black people can't be racist 🙄
@@Obi-Wan_Kenobi it's not border line racist, it is racist, just cause a black woman said it in a sweet voice, doesn't change the fact it is racist, and some people just don't get it. No wonder America is stuck
@@mbbs61 lol what?
@@mbbs61 Are you white?
So many ppl in the comments don't get it....
I think he should have just married a white chick, problem solved for everyone. Life is too short for such amount of drama over nothing
The man marries as Black girl and he still can't stop being chided for being "problematic". There is something seriously wrong with the morals of this show.
@Jessica Smith agree. I was not commenting on relationships in general, but on the relationship of Paul&Alicia, which seems to be less&less about their love and more&more about bickering over white vs. black topics.
@@cocacool3491 I think Paul and Alicia are just trying to show what it was like to be an interracial couple with kids in the 1980s. Sure, they bicker a lot but I am sure the bickering is a product of the time.
@Jessica Smith well tbh, its been about race up until 1968. So you can’t expect people to get out of a 400+ year habit.
More and more I think these shows aren’t about racial equality as much as bashing white people for simply existing I know our ancestors did bad shit to you but we’re not them and most of us aren’t rich or police so instead of trying to seperate races how about showing examples of how to coexist with one another rolling a white carpet or chanting white boy doesn’t make it welcoming we just think the white carpet matches the walls and for the average folk we don’t even notice we don’t care but apparently some black people do because symbolism I guess it’s just as bad as white folks doing it to black guests at their home show more effort that you’d be willing to exist rather than just slowly gravitating towards up and saying eliminate the entire white race it wasn’t good back it the 60’s when our grand parents and great grand parents said it it’s no different now if you were to reverse these rolls in the show this may as well be a show that ran in the 50’s or 60’s think on that for a bit
The staggering lack of punctuation makes your comment difficult to read, but I agree with you. Replace everything black with white and you've got the most racist show on TV but people get away with this because WOKE
@@izzieb.2926 yeaaaaah I’m not to great at it when using a phone lol
@Katy Cunningham I know. they want to be willingly ignorant.
It will never cease to amaze me that y'all feel like you need to have absolutely everything. Every space is automatically white by default. Y'all can play spades literally anywhere else, but the one space that is exclusively for black people because they are ostracized everywhere else, that's the one that you want to be in. That's the one that you have a problem with. Y'all have everything except this one thing and that one thing is the one you want. Now you gotta "reverse the roles" as if the roles haven't been reversed since the founding of the country that forced the creation of this space in the first place because black people having anything is apparently genocide against white people. Y'all are sick. Seek help.
@@eberechi3025 we have everything? Not in the slightest you only think that cause it’s what you think and want to see in reality there’s no safe spaces there are blacks who are just as racist as whites but because slavery was a thing people think they are entitled to something even though they aren’t the ones who lived through it well there were white slaves too once upon a time what about those reperations or Egyptians Chinese Japanese Indians every culture had slaves at some point in time we need to get past this race shit already both sides and come to the reality it doesn’t matter if your black white brown or purple with pink polka dots everyone treats each other like shit regardless of gender or color sooner y’all come to that conclusion the faster we can go to blaming someone or something else for our own misfortunes and still end up not taking any accountability for ourselves cause that’s the way humans are we blame others and will find any means necessary to blame anyone or anything except ourselves
Thank goodness nobody is watching this woke crap. Otherwise they wouldn’t be sharing these videos on RUclips.
Thank goodness we have this platform to use, so we can see the crap you think about and dumb enough to share
@@madgemackles4337 and your point? You liberals have lost your freaking minds and you’re pushing this “woke” crap down everyone’s throats that couldn’t be further from real life. Thank god we have a platform that enables us to identify the wack jobs from anywhere in the world
@@golfncrypto1542 I already made my point idiot. I said what I said, now get over it. Byee
@@madgemackles4337 so why did you reply? I think I hear the head clown calling for you, apparently it’s your turn to go on
@@golfncrypto1542 oh, so you’re calling for me?