While I agree that a lot of things come down to technique, I still think stamina IS a huge factor when you're playing for score. Like, getting regular /easy clears is all about reading, sure, but going for AAAs (especially on normal/hard judge) even at regular 10s does require a lot of physical strength to reinforce the technique to the point of automation and that point has been emphisized by A LOT of IIDX players. I remember Dj Darqs talking about his experience at the arcades and he said that quite often when good players were playing, the cabs were SHAKING like MAD just because of the sheer force those players used to press the buttons. I thought it was kind of weird and pointless until I decided to give it a try myself and in a matter of 6 months old rusty me propelled from 7th dan straight into Chuuden. But then again, we're all different. P.S Besides, smashing the buttons is A LOT of fun :D
I can't speak with certainty since my goals in the game (pushing higher difficulties and aiming for clears) tend to neglect timing and accuracy. Therefore, the advice from the video comes from a clearing perspective. In that sense, I don't believe when people say that they are being limited by their physical strength. 7k just does not require physical strength or 'stamina' the same way 4k does. My highest easy clear was an st1 with a few st0s before I stopped playing due to injury and not once did I feel stamina ever held me back. Although I do understand why people think stamina could be holding them back, since I obviously feel that same sensation of losing stamina, frankly, I improved too fast to chalk it up to just having gotten physically stronger. This concept of feeling like you ran out of stamina being not due to lack of strength but rather lack of reading ability is something other very good insane kaiden level players have told me. NOW when it comes to timing, like I said I legitimately cannot say from experience on whether it's true that you do need to be very strong physically to be able to time well. However my speculation is that pushing takes significantly more physical strength than timing, so it stands to reason that if you won't be skill capped due to strength when it comes to clearing, you won't be when it comes to timing. You very well may be correct but that's just how I see it. By the way, I saw your bms guide a while back and I thought it's a very solid guide for IIDX players going to bms. My guide is more aimed towards osu/other rhythm game players so hope we aren't stepping on each other's toes lol. 👍
@@PowerPowered It's fine, no hard feeling at all! In fact, the more BMS/IIDX guides, the better! What I meant was that progression in rhythm games is very individual regardless of how many tips and pieces of advice there are floating around the internet (which is why I omitted the topic of progression in my guide entirely). While for some focusing solely on hitting the notes (clearing) is enough, which many high-ranking BMS players suggest, for me personally, it wasn't the solution to overcome my biggest 10th dan barrier back in the day, hence I stopped playing for a while. My biggest issue was not inablily to read at level 12, it was the sheer lack of physical strength and (most importantly) finger flexibility where my fingers just couldn't catch up / bend fast enough for too long with tricky patterns and would eventually strain to the point of hurting. I returned to the game with severely degraded skills and quickly managed to reach chuuden/5th insane bms dan when I started using a lot more strength to press the keys at low difficulties gradually raising the bar from as low as mere 5s to reinfornce the technique and patterns + the common rule of low BPM first -> high BPM later after a warm up. It's only when I started playing Insane BMS around ★13-★14, I kind of started feeling that I was finally reaching the point where I can still press the buttons but fail to keep up with reading.
hey man, idk if you know the answer but what is the reason for bms, o2jam, etterna, etc... players being better than those who only play osu!mania? are the maps harder? is the difficulty progression more accurate (for example osu!mania difficulty rating prefers certain types of maps which makes it less accurate)?
osu!mania automated pp grade system (or the pp system in general) unfortunately favors various things which motivates players to specialize in certain skills as opposed to becoming more "well-rounded", but of course there are a fair amount of exceptions to the rule (those being very high-ranked osu!mania players who have no problem playing high level BMS or o2jam)
the 1# reason is because bms/o2jam/etterna punishes you EXTREMELY hard if you press when there is no notes on that lane or just overall spamming. bms is the strictest,i think its like 1.2seconds or something insane,might even be larger window,you will get a bad even if there is absolutely no notes even on the screen on that lane. on osumania the bad window is 120ms at OD10,and higher on lower OD(meaning its easier on higher OD lol), it is 150ms on OD0. on etterna its 180ms and you can get a cb rush,meaning you can hit the same notes multiple times,resulting in multiple bads/goods,cant do this in osumania. this forces you to learn to cancel cb rushes. o2jam also has somewhat strict bad window,but it is not as tight as bms. bms also has cb rushing. bms has also the most uncomfortable maps EVER at lower lvl,which forces you to get good technical skill and good finger independence early on. this evens out eventually,but maps in osumania are way more dense but comfortable patterns early on.
I’m having an issue configuring my controller. I’m using a yuan minidx and I can’t get it to map properly. In the config controller menu every time I try to map it it changes the layout in the keyboard section and not controller1 pls help
1. Make sure your minidx is on controller mode (Hold down one of the three metal buttons while plugging the controller in. Not sure which) You can check if it is in controller mode by finding a controller tester website and seeing if it receives inputs. I use 'hardwaretester.com' 2. In the key config menu, press 2 to switch to your controller. The name of the controller should be shown under "Controller Device 1" Let me know if you still haven't got it working
Unfortunately there's no auto scratch option in beatoraja. There are multiple reasons why you shouldn't use auto scratch but if you absolutely need the option, the best solution would be to use LR2 (Lunatic Rave 2), the other popular BMS client which does have an auto scratch option. LR2 is outdated in many ways but it is used by as many people, if not more, than beatoraja. For installing LR2, you can try this guide which I found quickly: news.keysounds.net/lr2guide Again, I would recommend treating BMS as a new game and just learning how to scratch. It's fun when you actually do manage to learn it.
18:14 Same as controller. - Press 6 on song select to enter the keybind menu. - Press the right arrow to go to "7 Keys" (assuming you're playing 7k. if you want to play other modes then you have to set keybinds for each one) - Hit enter on the key you want to change then press the button you want to bind it to. Let me know if you're still having issues
If you're wondering which binds to use, it can really be anything you want but the most standard layout is: 1 KEY: "A" 2 KEY: "S" 3 KEY: "D" 4 KEY: Space 5 KEY: "L" 6 KEY: Semicolon 7 KEY: Apostrophe F-SCR: L-Shift R-SCR: R-Shift START: "Q" SELECT: "W" Again, you can set these to whatever you want so feel free to change it to whatever feels most comfortable.
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really helpful video, been searching for a guide for the longest time. now my dusty phoenixwan can be used again
love to see it. might have to clean your buttons from all that dust
While I agree that a lot of things come down to technique, I still think stamina IS a huge factor when you're playing for score. Like, getting regular /easy clears is all about reading, sure, but going for AAAs (especially on normal/hard judge) even at regular 10s does require a lot of physical strength to reinforce the technique to the point of automation and that point has been emphisized by A LOT of IIDX players. I remember Dj Darqs talking about his experience at the arcades and he said that quite often when good players were playing, the cabs were SHAKING like MAD just because of the sheer force those players used to press the buttons. I thought it was kind of weird and pointless until I decided to give it a try myself and in a matter of 6 months old rusty me propelled from 7th dan straight into Chuuden.
But then again, we're all different.
P.S Besides, smashing the buttons is A LOT of fun :D
I can't speak with certainty since my goals in the game (pushing higher difficulties and aiming for clears) tend to neglect timing and accuracy. Therefore, the advice from the video comes from a clearing perspective. In that sense, I don't believe when people say that they are being limited by their physical strength. 7k just does not require physical strength or 'stamina' the same way 4k does. My highest easy clear was an st1 with a few st0s before I stopped playing due to injury and not once did I feel stamina ever held me back. Although I do understand why people think stamina could be holding them back, since I obviously feel that same sensation of losing stamina, frankly, I improved too fast to chalk it up to just having gotten physically stronger. This concept of feeling like you ran out of stamina being not due to lack of strength but rather lack of reading ability is something other very good insane kaiden level players have told me. NOW when it comes to timing, like I said I legitimately cannot say from experience on whether it's true that you do need to be very strong physically to be able to time well. However my speculation is that pushing takes significantly more physical strength than timing, so it stands to reason that if you won't be skill capped due to strength when it comes to clearing, you won't be when it comes to timing. You very well may be correct but that's just how I see it. By the way, I saw your bms guide a while back and I thought it's a very solid guide for IIDX players going to bms. My guide is more aimed towards osu/other rhythm game players so hope we aren't stepping on each other's toes lol. 👍
@@PowerPowered It's fine, no hard feeling at all! In fact, the more BMS/IIDX guides, the better!
What I meant was that progression in rhythm games is very individual regardless of how many tips and pieces of advice there are floating around the internet (which is why I omitted the topic of progression in my guide entirely). While for some focusing solely on hitting the notes (clearing) is enough, which many high-ranking BMS players suggest, for me personally, it wasn't the solution to overcome my biggest 10th dan barrier back in the day, hence I stopped playing for a while. My biggest issue was not inablily to read at level 12, it was the sheer lack of physical strength and (most importantly) finger flexibility where my fingers just couldn't catch up / bend fast enough for too long with tricky patterns and would eventually strain to the point of hurting. I returned to the game with severely degraded skills and quickly managed to reach chuuden/5th insane bms dan when I started using a lot more strength to press the keys at low difficulties gradually raising the bar from as low as mere 5s to reinfornce the technique and patterns + the common rule of low BPM first -> high BPM later after a warm up.
It's only when I started playing Insane BMS around ★13-★14, I kind of started feeling that I was finally reaching the point where I can still press the buttons but fail to keep up with reading.
hey man, idk if you know the answer but what is the reason for bms, o2jam, etterna, etc... players being better than those who only play osu!mania? are the maps harder? is the difficulty progression more accurate (for example osu!mania difficulty rating prefers certain types of maps which makes it less accurate)?
osu!mania automated pp grade system (or the pp system in general) unfortunately favors various things which motivates players to specialize in certain skills as opposed to becoming more "well-rounded", but of course there are a fair amount of exceptions to the rule (those being very high-ranked osu!mania players who have no problem playing high level BMS or o2jam)
the 1# reason is because bms/o2jam/etterna punishes you EXTREMELY hard if you press when there is no notes on that lane or just overall spamming. bms is the strictest,i think its like 1.2seconds or something insane,might even be larger window,you will get a bad even if there is absolutely no notes even on the screen on that lane. on osumania the bad window is 120ms at OD10,and higher on lower OD(meaning its easier on higher OD lol), it is 150ms on OD0.
on etterna its 180ms and you can get a cb rush,meaning you can hit the same notes multiple times,resulting in multiple bads/goods,cant do this in osumania. this forces you to learn to cancel cb rushes.
o2jam also has somewhat strict bad window,but it is not as tight as bms.
bms also has cb rushing.
bms has also the most uncomfortable maps EVER at lower lvl,which forces you to get good technical skill and good finger independence early on. this evens out eventually,but maps in osumania are way more dense but comfortable patterns early on.
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lmfao damn a dg fan and a bms player? u fire
watching this cuz i want to stream iidx but if i streamed data the konami ninjas will kill me
bms is better anyways
I’m having an issue configuring my controller. I’m using a yuan minidx and I can’t get it to map properly. In the config controller menu every time I try to map it it changes the layout in the keyboard section and not controller1 pls help
1. Make sure your minidx is on controller mode (Hold down one of the three metal buttons while plugging the controller in. Not sure which)
You can check if it is in controller mode by finding a controller tester website and seeing if it receives inputs. I use 'hardwaretester.com'
2. In the key config menu, press 2 to switch to your controller. The name of the controller should be shown under "Controller Device 1"
Let me know if you still haven't got it working
Hi i need help, is there a auto scratch option in here? I couldn't find at all. 😅
yeah it's called osu mania
Unfortunately there's no auto scratch option in beatoraja. There are multiple reasons why you shouldn't use auto scratch but if you absolutely need the option, the best solution would be to use LR2 (Lunatic Rave 2), the other popular BMS client which does have an auto scratch option. LR2 is outdated in many ways but it is used by as many people, if not more, than beatoraja. For installing LR2, you can try this guide which I found quickly: news.keysounds.net/lr2guide
Again, I would recommend treating BMS as a new game and just learning how to scratch. It's fun when you actually do manage to learn it.
May be a dumb question, but how do I set up my controller to be 2P side?
If you need the scratch lane on the right, you should be able to find it in the skin settings (F12 in song select or “Skin” tab in the launcher)
@@PowerPowered oh wow, didn't see that option at first glance. Thanks man, appreciate it!
how do i change they keybinds so I can play on my keyboard?
18:14
Same as controller.
- Press 6 on song select to enter the keybind menu.
- Press the right arrow to go to "7 Keys"
(assuming you're playing 7k. if you want to play other modes then you have to set keybinds for each one)
- Hit enter on the key you want to change then press the button you want to bind it to.
Let me know if you're still having issues
If you're wondering which binds to use, it can really be anything you want but the most standard layout is:
1 KEY: "A"
2 KEY: "S"
3 KEY: "D"
4 KEY: Space
5 KEY: "L"
6 KEY: Semicolon
7 KEY: Apostrophe
F-SCR: L-Shift
R-SCR: R-Shift
START: "Q"
SELECT: "W"
Again, you can set these to whatever you want so feel free to change it to whatever feels most comfortable.
what password is the zip?
what zip do you have? I don't remember any of them having a password
mining
playing minecraft in a cave looking for diamonds
@@PowerPoweredthat's funny...I'm in the same cave!