Like they will ever start going down that list.. No state has the man power to go through millions of peoples homes its not a big deal at all and if you haveba firearm of any kind you are already on the list anyways so.. stop it lmao
I did my last purchase through a Silencershop kiosk buying from my local shops inventory. Went fine overall. I forgot the exact wait time in days, but it was approximately 7 1/2 months. It's definitely the worst part, but you quickly forget about it until you start thinking about what other kinds of suppressors you want.
@@puertoricanboy100 I recommend advocating against ATF NFA Tax Stamps, as Americans we didn't allow it in 1765 when the Brits tried levying Tax Act Tax Stamps against us and I wouldn't advocate Tax Stamps because at the current time if you do your only advocating for long wait times on your Suppressor purchases, whereas if you advocate against it, it can help us voice our disdain for long wait times and we could possibly have this rubber stamp process repealed and thrown in the garbage bin of History.
@@The_Critical_Critic so whats your issue? how is it any different then dating a women? i mean with them you need to pay to spoil them till they decide they like you then you need to pay even more when she wants to get married have a child and then of course a home oh and when it breaks you still have to pay for her after the divorce. 200 upfront seems like a deal to me
The common people think we’re running around killing each other like the John wick movies and a people within literally 3 feet of us won’t be able to hear anything. Jesus Christ I’m just trying to save what’s left of my hearing but now I gotta wait like 8 months and pay an extra $200 for an item that already is expensive
How many form 4's can we submit at the same time? Say you're buying an sbr and a suppressor together at the same time. Can 2 form 4's be filled out so you'd only have to wait the 1 time period until they're approved? It would suck to only be able to submit a form 4 one at a time.
They’re separate wait times. Sbr, sbs, and homemade suppressors are form 1s. Much shorter time too usually around a month if that. Form 4 is for legit company manufactured cans.
I ended up answering my own question. I submitted 2 form 4's at the same time. Paid the $200 for each item; one sbr and 1 suppressor. Got approved 5 months later for both at the same time.
Legally, yes, you can use one suppressor on multiple guns you own. The NFA Gun Trust allows you to share silencer ownership with other people. You and the others mentioned in the trust can use one silencer for the compatible weapons you all own.
It's the previous generations fault for allowing this to happen. It's our generations fault for allowing this to continue. These tyrants have to be stopped at some point
The place I purchased my suppressor will only do it with paperwork. Witch totally sucks because I cant get out much do to injuries. I've been trying for months now. But paperwork kept coming back incomplete. Finally said fuck it. And wanted my money back. Ha! The store is no longer there. Seems they sold same suppressor to several people. Then closed while the paperwork was in limbo for 9 to 12 months. I haven't come across one honest person in Arizona since I moved here 27 years ago.
Question i’ve always wondered, If I buy a suppressor under my name, is my wife considered an owner too? What would happen to ownership if I passed away unexpectedly? Always been curious
Unfortunately that is a ridiculous process to purchase something that can help reduce hearing loss. Pass on a suppressor for now. Maybe one day the process will be simpler
I gave it a few seconds of thought and the answer is no. The nfa item has to have a serial number on the paperwork. A shop won't be able to file the tax stamp before the item is bought and paid for.
It’s unconstitutional in many states.. costs several hundred dollars to take classes, apply for a CCW and several months to get your license. A lot of people can’t afford a $300 firearm to defend themselves and then they turn around and tack on another $300 just to be able to carry it.
I don’t get why a muffler for your gun an accessory is treated as a firearm and I’d imagine gun companies would probably wrather it stay that way because when/if they’re no longer nfa items I’d imagine they’ll be cheaper that’s just my opinion
If you are an American, you're already on a list. Social media, bank cards, RUclips, Google, Walmart, Costco, childcare, stoplights, ATM's. We're all being recorded, the average American is on camera hundreds of times a day.... but I get your point.
or you could um....move to Sweden and just buy one without all that hassle...sure there is more hassle with other stuff, but you can buy a suppressor there just like we can buy ammo here....I wont even bother to get one until I move there
The tax is annoying but whatever, if I can afford the gun and the suppressor an extra couple hundred is not a deal breaker. But I'll never put my name on an enemies list for the government to know what potential contraband I do or do not have. So I will just do without. Now if they ever rescind this archaic law I'll be a suppressor buying fool.
So what if you wait that whole time and the suppressor doesn’t gel with your weapon well? Smh . Rhetorical question, but I was thinking this when I was about to buy because these suppressors have issues too. It would probably be the best bet to order multiple
Have zero gun background knowledge, this seems like a ridiculous process of purchasing a suppressor. It almost seems like it is intended that why so people don’t get it
I'd probably judge stick to a proven brand, especially since Aero has been known to be dropping the ball big time on quality. Last receivers (epc) were problematic and their warranty department is slow and lacking
I’m pretty sure Areo has built a reputable name and not every single transaction or item can be perfect. I would say based off your dialogue you either read that comment somewhere and then regurgitated it here or you have very little experience in the topics or parts you are struggling with and your looking to seek revenge for you’re incompetence. Either way you fully succeeded in making it obvious anyone can hit a button on a keyboard and we shouldn’t just believe everything we read on the internet.
Congrats...youre now on the watch list.
Lol
I am already for what I know.
lmao
if you buy it under a trust you good lol
Like they will ever start going down that list.. No state has the man power to go through millions of peoples homes its not a big deal at all and if you haveba firearm of any kind you are already on the list anyways so.. stop it lmao
You call it a tax, I call it an extorsion fee,
Legal for a fee. $200 short of a felony.
I did my last purchase through a Silencershop kiosk buying from my local shops inventory. Went fine overall. I forgot the exact wait time in days, but it was approximately 7 1/2 months. It's definitely the worst part, but you quickly forget about it until you start thinking about what other kinds of suppressors you want.
Do I have to relinquish my gun🙃
@@puertoricanboy100
I recommend advocating against ATF NFA Tax Stamps, as Americans we didn't allow it in 1765 when the Brits tried levying Tax Act Tax Stamps against us and I wouldn't advocate Tax Stamps because at the current time if you do your only advocating for long wait times on your Suppressor purchases, whereas if you advocate against it, it can help us voice our disdain for long wait times and we could possibly have this rubber stamp process repealed and thrown in the garbage bin of History.
So do you have to pay for the NFA item and the tax up front? That is a lot of money in limbo for up to a year.
Yes
Exactly that is why I don't own one. So you buy the suppressor plus tax and on top of that another 200... that's ridiculous....
@@The_Critical_Critic so whats your issue? how is it any different then dating a women? i mean with them you need to pay to spoil them till they decide they like you then you need to pay even more when she wants to get married have a child and then of course a home oh and when it breaks you still have to pay for her after the divorce. 200 upfront seems like a deal to me
@@ttss5726 clown
Alot of money? It's just $200. If you can't handle that then you obviously don't train due to the cost of ammo.
The common people think we’re running around killing each other like the John wick movies and a people within literally 3 feet of us won’t be able to hear anything. Jesus Christ I’m just trying to save what’s left of my hearing but now I gotta wait like 8 months and pay an extra $200 for an item that already is expensive
The People can at any time decide that this "LaW" is unconstitutional and act accordingly.
How many form 4's can we submit at the same time? Say you're buying an sbr and a suppressor together at the same time. Can 2 form 4's be filled out so you'd only have to wait the 1 time period until they're approved? It would suck to only be able to submit a form 4 one at a time.
I may be wrong because I'm new to this but I believe SBRs are Form 1
@@Oliver0200 I'm new too lol but I think form 4 is if you're buying it.
Form 1 if you're turning a pistol to sbr.
They’re separate wait times. Sbr, sbs, and homemade suppressors are form 1s. Much shorter time too usually around a month if that. Form 4 is for legit company manufactured cans.
I ended up answering my own question. I submitted 2 form 4's at the same time. Paid the $200 for each item; one sbr and 1 suppressor. Got approved 5 months later for both at the same time.
Are suppressors locked to a gun by law or if you get one can you use it on multiple guns?
Legally, yes, you can use one suppressor on multiple guns you own. The NFA Gun Trust allows you to share silencer ownership with other people. You and the others mentioned in the trust can use one silencer for the compatible weapons you all own.
It's the previous generations fault for allowing this to happen. It's our generations fault for allowing this to continue. These tyrants have to be stopped at some point
@@Vhdj687 literally the guy who said he doesn't like suppressors
@@Section015 what?
“big cock man” 😂
ATF is infringing on our rights
@@Section015anime fan and guns. Strange combo.
I'm confused do you have to pay for the suppressor first ?
The place I purchased my suppressor will only do it with paperwork. Witch totally sucks because I cant get out much do to injuries. I've been trying for months now. But paperwork kept coming back incomplete. Finally said fuck it. And wanted my money back. Ha! The store is no longer there. Seems they sold same suppressor to several people. Then closed while the paperwork was in limbo for 9 to 12 months. I haven't come across one honest person in Arizona since I moved here 27 years ago.
I think you need to edit again there bud
How do you purchase an EPC 10?
So what happens if the place you buy your suppressor goes out of business during the 8+ months of waiting?
Does anyone know if i can do the form 4 and pick out a suppressor later? Or do i need to already need to have chosen one?
You need to purchase the suppressor first. They are serialized and that number needs to accompany the form 4 paperwork. Shoot straight
@@tim7325adding on to this. So you have to fill out a form 4 for every suppressor you buy?
Question i’ve always wondered, If I buy a suppressor under my name, is my wife considered an owner too? What would happen to ownership if I passed away unexpectedly? Always been curious
Nothing like spending $1000 plus to wait a yr to touch it!
"Shall not be infringed" mhm its a fucking metal tube yo. I got my AR in like a week cause shipping was a bitch.
Is the $200 tax paid yearly, or is it a one time tax? Can you explain what the tax stamp is?
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Unfortunately that is a ridiculous process to purchase something that can help reduce hearing loss. Pass on a suppressor for now. Maybe one day the process will be simpler
No kidding. Passport photo, fingerprint, name in a database, trusts, year long waiting periods. Screw all that.
Maybe one day it won't get you on a registry.
SilencerShop Kiosk does it all in about 5 minutes.
Approval wait from the ATF takes forever.
It's not that hard, most annoying part is the tax and the wait
@@Unequalibrium That's exactly what they want. Make the process so difficult that the average person says meh I'll pass
Machinist streamline that process way down
Question, for the tax stamp is that just a 1 time fee or is it something you have to pay for every year?
If you think about it a supressor is more or less for safety (hearing wise) so why isn't so hard to get really
Do you have to pay the 200 tax on each purchase of a suppressor/NFA item?
Yes
^ he’s right
@@Agent-vj3ns 🖕 they/them is right
Collectively, these folks is right.
No.
Great information 👍 ... thanks Aero Precision 👊🇺🇸
can I buy it second hand?? does it require paper work?!
Did you say you needed a passport to purchase a suppressor?
Can I start submitting my form 4 and buy the suppressor once the form is approved?
I don't think so.
I gave it a few seconds of thought and the answer is no. The nfa item has to have a serial number on the paperwork. A shop won't be able to file the tax stamp before the item is bought and paid for.
@@peaches365 makes sense. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this!
Only hard part is waiting 🤬😭
Crying Cali tears!! Unconstitutional to deny us Commie state residents from enjoying NFA items.
It’s unconstitutional in many states.. costs several hundred dollars to take classes, apply for a CCW and several months to get your license. A lot of people can’t afford a $300 firearm to defend themselves and then they turn around and tack on another $300 just to be able to carry it.
crying NY tears
Cali tears of sadness here. 🥲
MA tears 😭
💥💥💥💥South Carolina 💥💥💥💥💥
The whole USA is a Hot Mess.
Do you pay that tax every time you want to get another suppressor?
yes
@@fortheloveofnoise appreciate it
I don’t get why a muffler for your gun an accessory is treated as a firearm and I’d imagine gun companies would probably wrather it stay that way because when/if they’re no longer nfa items I’d imagine they’ll be cheaper that’s just my opinion
(wonders when rather began being spelled as wrather with a W???)
Thing is, they get you on a list.
Yeah, but you made that comment of your digital tracking and monitoring device.
@@The10thManRules VPN FTW
@@judesheckelberg5135sure bud
@@ace-pl4qh ok pal
If you are an American, you're already on a list. Social media, bank cards, RUclips, Google, Walmart, Costco, childcare, stoplights, ATM's. We're all being recorded, the average American is on camera hundreds of times a day.... but I get your point.
or you could um....move to Sweden and just buy one without all that hassle...sure there is more hassle with other stuff, but you can buy a suppressor there just like we can buy ammo here....I wont even bother to get one until I move there
When can I get a LAHAR-30?
January 4th.
quick question if you have a CCW permit and are a veteran do you still need a passport?
I know this was 4 months ago, but he said passport photo not passport. The photo has to be submitted with the paperwork.
Can I buy a suppressor at 20 years? I would more than likely be 21 by the time it ever gets here
i’m sure you have to be the age required at the time of processing the forms
@@braedonbailey7914 - 21 years old to buy one
Just curious
All of this just to make a fun quieter. Absolutely ridiculous
Oh nothing just waiting on the lahar
Purchased a Lahar 30K today. I'll comment again when it gets out of gun jail.
I got my suppressor!
@@kaiudall2583hell yeah
Great info. Thank you
Thanks.
Why the hell do you need a passport??
The tax is annoying but whatever, if I can afford the gun and the suppressor an extra couple hundred is not a deal breaker. But I'll never put my name on an enemies list for the government to know what potential contraband I do or do not have. So I will just do without. Now if they ever rescind this archaic law I'll be a suppressor buying fool.
Great video!
All these hoops they make you jump threw just to exercise your God given right smh
Great video 🙏
so much hassle for a peice of pipe with a few washers in it
If I could I would...location: California
RIP
This is some bullshit. I’m still gonna do it though but damn. Great video bro
So what if you wait that whole time and the suppressor doesn’t gel with your weapon well? Smh .
Rhetorical question, but I was thinking this when I was about to buy because these suppressors have issues too. It would probably be the best bet to order multiple
"oH mY gOd pEoPle wAnT tO mAkE tHeiR gUnS qUiEtEr leTs fReAk oUt" -ATF
Organized crime still going strong, they don't care about noise lol
A.T.F 🏳️🌈
ATF 💅
abolish the ATf
Have zero gun background knowledge, this seems like a ridiculous process of purchasing a suppressor. It almost seems like it is intended that why so people don’t get it
Sounds like to much work involved.
Nah im not filling out any paperwork but i do own tools FO Alphabet this isn't North Korea
All this just to not blow my ears out should self defense be needed at home 👎
Pay more for a sielncer than your rifle, no thanks.
I hate our government
It's all just people
Yo man, talk slower. I literally do not know what’s going on.
The atf is gay
I would say what it stands for but my account would be immediately banned
Abolish ATF
PEOPLE, DO NOT BUY A SUPPRESSOR FROM SILENCER SHOP - ABSOLUTELY NO CUSTOMER SERVICE!!!! BEWARE!!!!!!!
Is there a time limit these wankers are allowed to sit on my application for a suppressor? I’m at 11 months and this is starting to suck.
I'd probably judge stick to a proven brand, especially since Aero has been known to be dropping the ball big time on quality. Last receivers (epc) were problematic and their warranty department is slow and lacking
I'm right here, man. You don't have to talk about me like I'm not in the room.
@Aero Precision, LLC maybe try responding to customer service request emails? I've had one sitting a few days now
@@abolishtheatfandrepealthenfa What's your ticket number?
@Aero Precision, LLC does me telling you that mean instead of slow service I'll get no service?
I’m pretty sure Areo has built a reputable name and not every single transaction or item can be perfect. I would say based off your dialogue you either read that comment somewhere and then regurgitated it here or you have very little experience in the topics or parts you are struggling with and your looking to seek revenge for you’re incompetence. Either way you fully succeeded in making it obvious anyone can hit a button on a keyboard and we shouldn’t just believe everything we read on the internet.
Home depot is faster