In 63 you were damned lucky to make E4 in 4 years. To many were quoted by the fleet exams. Although somehow my company commander was a one hash mark chief. But, for the most part it was a tough road due to quotas.
You can still make E-4 if you're in an ATF rate (advanced technical field). For example IS' can make E-4 just by passing A school and arriving to their first command. They don't have to wait 30 months.
Just want to thank you for 1st your service and a really good no nonsense channel . I'm a son of a sailor who served 22yrs and was in WW2 , Korean War , Cuban Missile Crisis . Now my daughter is getting ready for her ASVAB test in few days . Then MEPS next month . So as a dad , thanks for sound advice . Are you looking at a 20yr career in the Navy or just take 1 4 yr term at a time ? Again thanks for your time.
Right now it looks like one enlistment and then going to college full time for me. Good to hear that, I know she'll have a great career. I assume you've already seen the other video about MEPS?
Nuke is a good way to get E3 before boot camp and auto E4 upon graduation of A School (3 to 6 months after Boot camp). There is also the opportunity get auto E5 if you reenlist 2 years after joining. It comes with a big bonus too. That said, being a Nuke is not for everyone and you don't get to choose what specific job you'll get, i.e MMN, EMN, ETN. It's the hardest school academically and a tough job in the fleet.
It's crazy how long their A school is, they were just graduating months after I showed up to my first command. The Navy does their best to try to retain those nukes too, since they could just leave and do the same job in the civilian world for much higher pay.
My brother was a Nuke. Flunked out just before finishing A school (one week left). I scored high enough to get into Nuke as well on the ASVAB. But, I've heard enough horror stories from my brother to know not to pursue that. I'm more interested in going the HM route anyway.
just subbed, thanks for taking your time to expound and enumerate on this topic. I am going to join the Navy, always wanted to, but let fear shunt my dreams, now in my mid 30s I will finally serve my country. it isn't all avarice, I am genuinely a patriot of this great, God fearing nation, and I want to show my gratitude and join my brothers in arms. hah, excuse the gravitas. Happy New Year bruh, and b-ch-n threads bro
Alright well best of luck. Just don't come in with any high expectations of your life being a war movie or something. It's just a job, albeit a more special one. You'll do great! And better late than never, now we don't have to sit in a rocking chair in our 70s wondering how life COULD have been IF we joined.
You want to strive hard and intentionally for that E4 level, life will become so much easier once you get that. That's why it's so important to get that initial jump to E2 or E3, there's a waiting period after E3 before you can become E4. I would add to all of this very useful information in the video, that it is very important to work on your military appearance - this counts for a whole lot when being evaluated and selected for promotion. Be squared away, look sharper than your peers.
Love how informative your videos are and how well you explain everything. I'm married with 3 children and currently a local truck driver. I did 4 years of Navy Jrotc in high school and was told I would go right in as an E-3. My whole family was Navy and being 26yr old I'm really thinking about enlisting for the benefits during and after serving.
Bank robber John Dillinger joined the Navy as a Petty Officer 3rd Class because of his skills as a machinist. He was assigned to the battleship USS Utah and jumped ship a few months later.
Good advice telling these people about the enlisted recruiters…used car sale as they dont care at all about you once you’re off to MEPS. Only people that will disagree have been or are close to a recruiter
I made a whole video about how to navigate the sales tactics and carnival dancing with signing up at the recruiting office. It can get ugly if people go in there not knowing what they're doing but it can also go so well. Thanks for the comment!
@@codycoleman8917 I signed as a nuke you have to sign as a nuke to get e-3 and you have to graduate "a" school to get e-4 otherwise regardless of asvab you start e-1
I'd bring it up, it might be a mistake. Nobody cares about my career or your career like we do ourselves, to everyone else we're just numbers on paper, one fish out of a giant school swimming by
I’m not citizen yet so, I couldn’t enlist as an officer even having two masters degree. The enlisting petty officer made me sign a paper in MEPS stating I would not try to become an officer during BMT, regardless being educationally eligible for. Im going to get my citizenship during the BMT and talk to a classifier to move up to O rank. However, I don’t know how signing that paper would affect me. Does anyone know? I truly regret signing that.
Thanks for the video, Is it true that some rates start off at an e4? I was looking at being a CTT but there is a lot of mixed information about rates starting at e4. ( I know its not in bootcamp but usually after A school) I tried looking on navycool for the information but CTT is really limited on the info.
Does the Navy have the Delayed Entry Program? My son is a junior in HS rn and keeps telling me he wants to join the Navy when he graduates HS. He seems pretty locked in on that decision so just wondering if there’s something he could be studying before if he does join
There are resources on this channel explaining what to study before going. Simply said, yes there's a delayed entry program and they offer classes and stuff on what to know before showing up to RTC. I'd highly recommend starting with the rank structure and general orders. If he already knows these things when he shows up, and passes the physical test right off the bat, he'll be promoted in boot camp.
My son joined in June. His advice is study the asvab test and get a very high score -retake it until you are happy with the score! It helps with your pay and bonus and jobs offers for after boot camp ❤ good luck!
Im entering navy as a E3 how long do I have to wait to hit E4 and how hard is it to get E5 and up. And how can you become a officer once you join as a enlistment side.
No matter what rate you joined as, E-1, E-2, or E-3, it will be 30 months total time in service when you pick up E-4 automatically. There are special circumstances where you can skip ahead to E-4 early but for most people they just have to wait 30 months since the first day of boot camp. E5 and above is a challenge some people spend years on, but once you got it it's yours so.... There are many pathways to officer, I think a lot of your question is already answered in the video.
Go ahead tell me about the navy I spent 22 years in the navy once you get E3 you take test for promotion and that don't means you get promotion it depends on how many points you have and if you're in and over loaded it take many tests
Things have changed since you left, sir or madam. E-4 is automatic after 30 months now, until the next change occurs. You don't even have to do the PMK-EE for it anymore.
Know the ranks, recognize them (shoulder, sleeve, and cuff) the abbreviations and E1 through E-9 and O-1 through O-10 codes for them. Know a few individuals like the CNO by name. Know the general orders.
I’m prior service possibly going navy. I will unfortunately be an E3 entering again. Would I have to wait 30 months like you stated to get E4? Or what are my possibilities to get promoted faster?
You can still get E-4 by having certain billets or ratings and stuff but generally speaking you just gotta wait that 30 months, unless you get mapped as mentioned in the video.
you automatically become an e4 six months after being an e3?! that is so cool! I hope to graduate Bootcamp as an E2 or E3. nevermind I watched the rest. so one can not become e4 unless they are in the military for 3 years?
Yeah it used to be 6 months after E3 you got E4 but now it's 30 months time in service. The reason for the change is that we had too many turbocrows. A friend of mine has been working for 2 years now and isn't an E4 but someone who just set foot on this island IS because she joined at E3. 30 months is more fair for everyone. But I'm glad I got E4 before the change LOL
If i have a 4 year degree and a 3.0 gpa, can I go straight to OCS or are there further requirements/selection process to go through? I'm unsure if its better to apply multiple times(assuming one can not be chosen) and wait it out or just enlist as an e3 with a bachelor's degree
What's the rush? Apply for OCS, speak with officer recruiters, and they should get you in. If you wanna be enlisted for a while and then go officer that's an option too since you already have the degree.
@@HaedenBeck I don't have a degree yet so I'm trying to get as much information as I can before I decide if I want to enlist or go to college, for college I'm hesitant since if I do it I'll be unemployed while studyng and will struggle to survive and my degree choice may not be the smartest due to ai, possible lack of networking, and I might not even do well considering that I'll be 30 when I enroll I might do classes to get credit so I can enlist at e3 and down the line use the GI benefits to finish my degree in a field related to my service job so that I have experience
@Haedenbeck I start off E-2 however i’m in the DEP program and I have more pending college credits will I be able to update my records ? This was told to me at MEPS is there any truth to that ?
Wow 30 months to rank to E4? My Son is going in as E3 due to jrotc and they didn’t mention this- I think they are telling him he could rank up pretty quick.
It changed relatively recently. E-4 is a petty officer rate, basically an NCO, it shouldn't be available to someone after only 6 months of training in boot camp and A school like it used to be. Before being a leader someone has to be a great follower and understand what the people they're leading are doing because they've done it themselves for years.
Hello guys n girls I ship out in july im trying to rank up before boot camp. Can I use anyone’s name as a recruit to rank up faster. You more than welcome too use my name too for ur benefit.
0:58 WHERE DOES IT SAY THAT YOU GET TREATED DIFFERENTLY ACCORDING TO RANK. SIGNATURE BEHAVIOURS 1. Treat every person with respect It doesn't say treat every person according to rank. Bro just delete this video, you bring shame to the uniform.
As for someone going into boot camp soon, what is the best way I can practice and learn my ranks so when I go to boot camp I’ll know? I’ve taken some “practice tests” but they show a picture for 2 seconds and then take that picture away and then ask “what was the rank you saw” like I don’t know 🫠🤣
Just look at the rank charts, like on google images or wikipedia and memorize it. What I did to memorize it was draw it in digital art, and that made me learn it.
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When I enlisted I enlisted for Six years, with a guaranteed C School, after A School I was promoted to E-4.
TURBOCROW. Well, congrats. 😁
Missile technician??👀
In 63 you were damned lucky to make E4 in 4 years. To many were quoted by the fleet exams.
Although somehow my company commander was a one hash mark chief. But, for the most part it was a tough road due to quotas.
@@trinityregard634 depends on your rate as from my understanding nukes have always made e-4 when graduating "a" school
My son enlisted for 6 years too!
You can still make E-4 if you're in an ATF rate (advanced technical field). For example IS' can make E-4 just by passing A school and arriving to their first command.
They don't have to wait 30 months.
Just want to thank you for 1st your service and a really good no nonsense channel . I'm a son of a sailor who served 22yrs and was in WW2 , Korean War , Cuban Missile Crisis . Now my daughter is getting ready for her ASVAB test in few days . Then MEPS next month . So as a dad , thanks for sound advice . Are you looking at a 20yr career in the Navy or just take 1 4 yr term at a time ? Again thanks for your time.
Right now it looks like one enlistment and then going to college full time for me. Good to hear that, I know she'll have a great career. I assume you've already seen the other video about MEPS?
Nuke is a good way to get E3 before boot camp and auto E4 upon graduation of A School (3 to 6 months after Boot camp).
There is also the opportunity get auto E5 if you reenlist 2 years after joining.
It comes with a big bonus too.
That said, being a Nuke is not for everyone and you don't get to choose what specific job you'll get, i.e MMN, EMN, ETN.
It's the hardest school academically and a tough job in the fleet.
It's crazy how long their A school is, they were just graduating months after I showed up to my first command. The Navy does their best to try to retain those nukes too, since they could just leave and do the same job in the civilian world for much higher pay.
My brother was a Nuke. Flunked out just before finishing A school (one week left). I scored high enough to get into Nuke as well on the ASVAB. But, I've heard enough horror stories from my brother to know not to pursue that. I'm more interested in going the HM route anyway.
just subbed, thanks for taking your time to expound and enumerate on this topic. I am going to join the Navy, always wanted to, but let fear shunt my dreams, now in my mid 30s I will finally serve my country. it isn't all avarice, I am genuinely a patriot of this great, God fearing nation, and I want to show my gratitude and join my brothers in arms. hah, excuse the gravitas. Happy New Year bruh, and b-ch-n threads bro
Alright well best of luck. Just don't come in with any high expectations of your life being a war movie or something. It's just a job, albeit a more special one. You'll do great! And better late than never, now we don't have to sit in a rocking chair in our 70s wondering how life COULD have been IF we joined.
Hey I am 34. And going to take my asvab next Friday don’t let your age discourage you brother lets get it
You want to strive hard and intentionally for that E4 level, life will become so much easier once you get that. That's why it's so important to get that initial jump to E2 or E3, there's a waiting period after E3 before you can become E4. I would add to all of this very useful information in the video, that it is very important to work on your military appearance - this counts for a whole lot when being evaluated and selected for promotion. Be squared away, look sharper than your peers.
Love how informative your videos are and how well you explain everything. I'm married with 3 children and currently a local truck driver. I did 4 years of Navy Jrotc in high school and was told I would go right in as an E-3. My whole family was Navy and being 26yr old I'm really thinking about enlisting for the benefits during and after serving.
It could be a great choice but it's not for everyone. I joined at 25, it's not too late. Best of luck.
Bank robber John Dillinger joined the Navy as a Petty Officer 3rd Class because of his skills as a machinist. He was assigned to the battleship USS Utah and jumped ship a few months later.
Looking sharp champ 🎉. Happy holidays
Same to you!
In works with Talking to a recruiter now , MA is my one of choices going in. Thanks for all the info !!
Absolutely!
Enlisting as an ITS, I did 4 years of NJROTC, and my rate auto-promotes E-4 after A school
Love the vids bro thinking about joining the navy soon leaning towards MA or CT possibly MMN
Good advice telling these people about the enlisted recruiters…used car sale as they dont care at all about you once you’re off to MEPS. Only people that will disagree have been or are close to a recruiter
I made a whole video about how to navigate the sales tactics and carnival dancing with signing up at the recruiting office. It can get ugly if people go in there not knowing what they're doing but it can also go so well. Thanks for the comment!
I’m getting e-3 during basic and when I finish A-school I’ll be an e-4
Love it!! Your just right to the point.
I nuke qualified so I started as E-3 as a part of my contract and made E-4 automatically after finishing A school
Did you sign as a Nuke or was the qualification enough to get you that E-4?
@@codycoleman8917 I signed as a nuke you have to sign as a nuke to get e-3 and you have to graduate "a" school to get e-4 otherwise regardless of asvab you start e-1
@@elapidpython4378is this contract specific or do you have to ask and does this outlast a bonus?
They must changed it because my recruiter put in my info from 2 years of rotc but my contract says e1
I'd bring it up, it might be a mistake. Nobody cares about my career or your career like we do ourselves, to everyone else we're just numbers on paper, one fish out of a giant school swimming by
Very good info
This video answered my question on your other video. Thank you!
no problem!
Went into rhe army as an e4 . Completed basic then went to warrant officer school after basic
Pilot?
Signal corp warrant
One of the best information
Hope it helped.
I’m not citizen yet so, I couldn’t enlist as an officer even having two masters degree. The enlisting petty officer made me sign a paper in MEPS stating I would not try to become an officer during BMT, regardless being educationally eligible for.
Im going to get my citizenship during the BMT and talk to a classifier to move up to O rank. However, I don’t know how signing that paper would affect me. Does anyone know? I truly regret signing that.
Thanks for the video, Is it true that some rates start off at an e4? I was looking at being a CTT but there is a lot of mixed information about rates starting at e4. ( I know its not in bootcamp but usually after A school) I tried looking on navycool for the information but CTT is really limited on the info.
Yeah if you're a nuke or a SEAL you graduate your training as an E4 because it's so long and difficult. Those examples come to mind right away.
IC here I ship out in May.. I’ll be E-4
@@kaybee19ks How are you an E-4 right off the bat?
E-4 is a paygrade. Rating is the type of job. Rate would be like a CTT2, BM1, ACAN, etc.
Does the Navy have the Delayed Entry Program? My son is a junior in HS rn and keeps telling me he wants to join the Navy when he graduates HS. He seems pretty locked in on that decision so just wondering if there’s something he could be studying before if he does join
There are resources on this channel explaining what to study before going. Simply said, yes there's a delayed entry program and they offer classes and stuff on what to know before showing up to RTC. I'd highly recommend starting with the rank structure and general orders. If he already knows these things when he shows up, and passes the physical test right off the bat, he'll be promoted in boot camp.
Yes they do
My son joined in June. His advice is study the asvab test and get a very high score -retake it until you are happy with the score! It helps with your pay and bonus and jobs offers for after boot camp ❤ good luck!
Just graduated boot camp on the 14th I was supposed graduate on the 30th last month but I was in rcu for 2 weeks for swim 😢
Well hey at least you passed, congrats!
Im entering navy as a E3 how long do I have to wait to hit E4 and how hard is it to get E5 and up. And how can you become a officer once you join as a enlistment side.
No matter what rate you joined as, E-1, E-2, or E-3, it will be 30 months total time in service when you pick up E-4 automatically. There are special circumstances where you can skip ahead to E-4 early but for most people they just have to wait 30 months since the first day of boot camp.
E5 and above is a challenge some people spend years on, but once you got it it's yours so....
There are many pathways to officer, I think a lot of your question is already answered in the video.
What if you have an associates degree and bring someone in with one of those ratings?
You'll join as an E-3.
Did jrotc recruiter said will be logging in as a e-3 just unsure if I’ll become and e-4 right out of basic
Make sure everything promised is actually on your contract
Any tips for passing the dep test to make E-2 at RTC
Learn all the rates and ranks from E-1 through O-10. What they look like and what they're called. And pass all the physical tests.
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My son started boot camp as an E3 because he was an Eagle scout.
Go ahead tell me about the navy I spent 22 years in the navy once you get E3 you take test for promotion and that don't means you get promotion it depends on how many points you have and if you're in and over loaded it take many tests
Things have changed since you left, sir or madam. E-4 is automatic after 30 months now, until the next change occurs. You don't even have to do the PMK-EE for it anymore.
Last time the Navy had advancement exams for E3 to E4 was the last testing cycle in 2019.
@@theblackknight9783 well I retired in 1993 so I guess things have changed like the uniform's did many times
It's actually "advanced" not promoted. Officers are promoted. Enlisted are advanced to the rate of BM1, ET3, etc.
You said some other info on that test for E2 at beginning of basic training other than rank what else is there?
Know the ranks, recognize them (shoulder, sleeve, and cuff) the abbreviations and E1 through E-9 and O-1 through O-10 codes for them. Know a few individuals like the CNO by name. Know the general orders.
I’m prior service possibly going navy. I will unfortunately be an E3 entering again. Would I have to wait 30 months like you stated to get E4? Or what are my possibilities to get promoted faster?
You can still get E-4 by having certain billets or ratings and stuff but generally speaking you just gotta wait that 30 months, unless you get mapped as mentioned in the video.
Went into Naval Reserves after college became an E2😊
you automatically become an e4 six months after being an e3?! that is so cool! I hope to graduate Bootcamp as an E2 or E3. nevermind I watched the rest. so one can not become e4 unless they are in the military for 3 years?
Yeah it used to be 6 months after E3 you got E4 but now it's 30 months time in service. The reason for the change is that we had too many turbocrows. A friend of mine has been working for 2 years now and isn't an E4 but someone who just set foot on this island IS because she joined at E3. 30 months is more fair for everyone. But I'm glad I got E4 before the change LOL
Does marine rotc count to be put on the contract for e-3?
I believe so, bring proof of it to the recruiter and make sure it says E-2 or E-3 on the contract.
If i have a 4 year degree and a 3.0 gpa, can I go straight to OCS or are there further requirements/selection process to go through?
I'm unsure if its better to apply multiple times(assuming one can not be chosen) and wait it out or just enlist as an e3 with a bachelor's degree
What's the rush? Apply for OCS, speak with officer recruiters, and they should get you in. If you wanna be enlisted for a while and then go officer that's an option too since you already have the degree.
@@HaedenBeck I don't have a degree yet so I'm trying to get as much information as I can before I decide if I want to enlist or go to college, for college I'm hesitant since if I do it I'll be unemployed while studyng and will struggle to survive and my degree choice may not be the smartest due to ai, possible lack of networking, and I might not even do well considering that I'll be 30 when I enroll
I might do classes to get credit so I can enlist at e3 and down the line use the GI benefits to finish my degree in a field related to my service job so that I have experience
what if i have 4 years of air force jrotc but want to go to the navy will it still count?
nevermind i didn’t watch the video long enough lol
There was an air force jrotc guy in my boot camp division, yeah they'll recognize it and give you E-3.
I'm in the USNSCC. I have been in it for 4 years. I want to join the US Navy as MAA.
Yeah well the path is clear ahead, if that's what you want. I wish you the best in your career. Feel free to ask any questions!
@Haedenbeck I start off E-2 however i’m in the DEP program and I have more pending college credits will I be able to update my records ? This was told to me at MEPS is there any truth to that ?
If the status of anything has changed before you ship out to RTC, you can update it. Just make sure everything is reflected on the actual contract.
@@HaedenBeck thanks so much man your videos have helped me out and because of your videos I was able to make an informed choice thanks a lot man.
@@malakaisouthside6945 Absolutely!
Wow 30 months to rank to E4? My Son is going in as E3 due to jrotc and they didn’t mention this- I think they are telling him he could rank up pretty quick.
It changed relatively recently. E-4 is a petty officer rate, basically an NCO, it shouldn't be available to someone after only 6 months of training in boot camp and A school like it used to be. Before being a leader someone has to be a great follower and understand what the people they're leading are doing because they've done it themselves for years.
Question! For bootcamp should u study the aircraft n ships?
It's not what I would focus on, no. Study the ranks, general orders, sailors creed.
Do recommendations count if they join another branch
I don't think so, the office is split up by branch too so.
Gold award is girl scout only. Eagle Scout is boy scouts.
My son went in as E3. He is an Eagle scout and had 4 years in jrotc.
Do navy consider experience from foreign military?
I don't believe so.
What are all the Navy Ranks I need to know before going to boot camp?
E-1 through E-9, the warrant officers, and O-1 through O-10.
lol our laundry PO got promoted and our PFC got promoted
I was laundry po for my div. I assume your laundry got promoted for another reason than laundry alone lol
Hello guys n girls I ship out in july im trying to rank up before boot camp. Can I use anyone’s name as a recruit to rank up faster. You more than welcome too use my name too for ur benefit.
How easy or difficult was it to be an MA
Easiest, best job I ever had. I mean it's long hours and nobody here loves every minute or hour of it but overall it's great.
i got maritoriously promoted in bootcamp,worth it
Civilians dont like to Navy guys.
Sailor always swearing
0:58 WHERE DOES IT SAY THAT YOU GET TREATED DIFFERENTLY ACCORDING TO RANK.
SIGNATURE BEHAVIOURS
1. Treat every person with respect
It doesn't say treat every person according to rank. Bro just delete this video, you bring shame to the uniform.
As for someone going into boot camp soon, what is the best way I can practice and learn my ranks so when I go to boot camp I’ll know? I’ve taken some “practice tests” but they show a picture for 2 seconds and then take that picture away and then ask “what was the rank you saw” like I don’t know 🫠🤣
Just look at the rank charts, like on google images or wikipedia and memorize it. What I did to memorize it was draw it in digital art, and that made me learn it.