Panicked Student Pilot Crashes at Campground!
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- Опубликовано: 4 июн 2024
- On June 3, 2024, a small plane crashed at a campground in Plymouth's Terryville section, injuring one person. The student pilot, who was on a solo flight, reported engine trouble before the crash. Despite air traffic controllers guiding her towards Waterbury Airport, the plane went down at 10:55 a.m., landing near several campers. Witnesses described hearing engine issues and seeing the plane crash; a maintenance worker and police helped the pilot to safety.
The FAA and NTSB are investigating the incident, and the plane's 60 gallons of fuel need to be cleaned up before it can be moved.
"I'm a student pilot solo and I am panicking!"
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She didn't panic. She needs to give herself more credit.
"Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgment that something else is more important than fear."
That controller was excellent! He got her to refocus from her panic, gave her the options and kept her appraised of the situation. Kudos to the participating aircraft. Hope she recovers and gets back in the saddle.
As a student pilot myself, she did an excellent job remaining calm and aviating, navigating and communicating. I’m impressed that she was able to glide so far at an altitude of only 4700ft AGL. I can understand her missing the airport sighting, even seeing a paved airport in the city is challenging for me.
Remarkable job, young lady. May have felt panic but communicated and acted calmly, clearly and professionally.
This has to be the first pilot who said she was panicking - but actually she wasn't!
Excellent professional job by the ATC controller and the most important part was the student pilot who was able to maintain her ability to communicate effectively and prayers going out to her for a successful recovery to start back flying again.
Good job on the solo pilot. Despite her initial panic she focused up, asked for a heading and even though she didn't make the strip she was able to walk away.
I live not too far fom this area and appreciate everyone on this one Bradley ATC, the student pilot ( hope she is ok and healing) with her excellent communications, and the pilot of the other plane trying to assist with the landing and then rescue efforts. Oh, and the campers who helped get her out of the plane.
My Dad was a former USAF pilot and had several hair raising stories of mechanical failures and one potential pilot error/mechanical issue (another pilot and radio communications issue) that nearly got them both killed but training, instinct and awesome ATC saved the day.
Very good job, young lady. Not easy keep calm in engine failure and ...you done !! Amazing ..!! We want see you ASAP !!
excellent help especially the multiple "best glide" comments
She did awesome! Ive heard experienced pilots sound more panicked than her. I hope she stays with it, she will probably end up as an excellent pilot.
How awful to be in that situation as a new student pilot out for a solo. Blessing that she survived as so many similar vids show fatalities almost always when single engine goes down. I actually wonder if she will continue flying. Not to make light, but its almost like that scene in the Robin Williams movie (dont recall name) where he is about to buy a house and a plane crashes into it ... and he exclaims (paraphrasing): "I will take it, whats the chance of another disaster?!".
_The World According to Garp_ (1982). Pilot gets out, walks on what's left of the 2nd floor, and says, "You mind if I use your phone?" (pre-cellphone days 😉).
Single engine aircraft accidents have an over 90% survival rate. You just don’t really hear about them
I think the movie is "The World According To Garp".
I live on a 2000 ft grass strip. That's a really short runway to hit with no engine power to help!
She is absolutely lucky to be alive with all those trees around. Hope Dan Gryder covers this.
I wonder what her condition really is.
Kudo's to the student pilot and controllers. I'm glad she survived and was able to get to safety with help.
Kudos to her instructor. This student handled the situation with poise and control and the ATC help was great. I used to be based in that area and the Bradley Approach staff were the best.
Well done everyone involved
Some of these comments, even from CFIs, are absolute rubbish. Most pilots fly for thousands of hours without experiencing an engine failure. Have you? Nobody knows how they will react and the adrenaline rush can play havoc with your ability to think clearly, and to problem solve, and to even see clearly. Airline pilots have the advantage of recurrent training and CFIs enjoy the benefits that accrue from training others in emergency procedures. Student pilots haven’t developed the “muscle memory” to react reliably to every emergency. Kudos to this young student pilot and the controller. Luck had a great deal to do with the outcome. Suggestions that she wasn’t ready for this flight and that her instruction had been less than adequate are inappropriate given the paucity of information on the circumstances.
Who are these people with all the “not experienced enough to solo” etc.? Maybe they have info from other sources, but it seems like everyone here did what they could in a very trying situation. The only comment I would possibly agree with is perhaps she should have taken a bit more control over where she might be able to put it down based on what we heard in the traffic. Glad she survived!
I'm not a pilot, but could the absence of a fire indicate no fuel?
If you read the description, mentions they need to clean up 60 gallons of fuel.
These small grass strips are very difficult to see. I would be setting up for the clearing in the trees, and then if I happen to be aligned with a runway - that's a plus. Trying to hit a 2000 grass strip which is not really visible behind the trees is a sure way to fly into trees.
Great job by everyone involved. Shame she wasn't able to land but she handled a very difficult situation very professionally for a student.
Sounds like she wasn't panicking and she did a good job considering the circumstances. Grass strips can be very hard to locate if you're not familiar with the area.
I hope she doesn't quit flying.
Awesome folks helping her out. I hope she is okay and doesn’t tap out. Stuff happens out of our control up there sometimes and it doesn’t mean your a bad pilot or should quit flying. She did AWESOME and that can’t be said enough. Good luck and god bless these folks.
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Well done to the student who survived. Did she not have a gps?
Got to wonder what the condition of that engine was? Was it past recommended tbo, recent maintenance? Worst possible person to have an engine failure happen to.
Flying in and out of grass strips in Michigan, Ohio, and Ontario can be difficult enough in certain weather and lighting situations …… even when You fly into them routinely. An engine - out Student looking for a grass strip ….. did everything should could ….. to come back to earth, to fly another day !
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Great job all around!
Why didn’t the controller give her a heading to the closest airport as soon as she reported engine trouble?
The pilot is "in command" not the controller.
The controller can assist but cannot make 'command' decisions.
It is FUNDUMENTAL!
@@charlesbrewer6552 but normally the controller will offer vectors. I know that the PIC is the final authority in the safe operation of the aircraft.
@@charlesbrewer6552fundamental
How is she? Does anyone know yet?
she was taken to the hospital with just a little blood, and no word on condition
For those non-pilots, spotting an airport that is unfamiliar can be very difficult. As a student I was warned not to use airports as visual reference points during the day because they can be so difficult to spot at times. However, how she handled this was an absolute disaster. Once you're over the airport circle to land. Don't set yourself up for a 1-1/2 mile VFR pattern with your engine off! 2000' of runway might be a little tough for a student to get down without overshooting but at least you won't stall/spin into a tree. Glad she's okay.
ESPECIALLY grass strips. For most you really have to have prior experience with them to be able to spot them.
100% if she had been taught properly and was using a gps she would have been able to land safely. She is very lucky
After ATC gave her that 210° vector, she could've been advised to look for Lake Plymouth in front of her 1 mi north of the airfield and/ or follow Rt. 262 (the 2-lane N-S road) direct south VFR to the airfield. Hard to have that info without a local person.
Carb ice? Fuel selector in wrong position? With plenty of fuel on board and dual ignitions, other than a blown engine or a huge gulp of water there's not much else to stop the prop from turning.
Puttering along on partial throttle increases the amount of vacuum In the carb, chilling the intake air and causing ice to form. Wonder if she pulled the carb heat as soon as it started sputtering.
That young lady sure sounded calm for someone in a panic. Great job. I've heard pilots say any landing you can walk away from is a good one. AT controller was excellent.
Great job! The only thing I think could’ve been done better was for the controller to vector her straight in to 17 - of course, we don’t know her altitude and speed from this video so that is an unknown factor. I imagine she was too high when she was at the threshold of 17, assuming she saw it. Glad she’s OK!
If I recall from another video she finally got sight of the runway at 1,800 feet
I listen to these reports, watch the aviation analysis and try to construct a sh*t sandwich out of what I learn from them, which is after all, their purpose and importance to us as pilots…
The good… she recognized the emergency and tried to use the available resources she understands… reaching out to ATC is appropriate but it should be remembered that it comes third in the sequence of aviate, navigate, communicate… I get the sense she felt like someone outside the airplane could help more than is possible which is a thought I think most new pilots must train out of themselves.
The bad… following on from the above, she should have recognized that it was HER emergency and sought the right landing spot for HER to put it down. Ie take command of the situation as PIC. Some of the better outcomes I’ve studied have pilots who dictate the narrative because they have the best info (although in fairness, they are also usually more experienced). ATC recommended an airfield 10 miles away initially… at I think 4.5k high and best glide, probably wasn’t realistic. But it’s a great idea for ATC to throw out, and then immediately for the PIC to throw away.
The grass trip should have been abandoned as soon as it became clear that she could not find it despite being over it… she should have said something like “I don’t see it, but I see a suitable field off my nose, I’m going there.” A crash landing in an open field at stall speed with wings level is the aim.
The other good (the other side of the sandwich!) - a fellow aviator tried to offer assistance and reminded her of the importance of airspeed / best glide. A lifesaving notion no doubt.
She did awesome absolutely phenomenal.
Ya ok. She’s a disaster. She screwed up pulling mixture
She was not situationally aware of her surroundings.
Student pilot put it down while clearly communicating what was needed and fortunately seemingly little injury. If it weren’t for the dude hopping on at the end telling her to square off her pattern with no engine she possibly would have been even better.
Given all the old school, highly experienced bo drivers out there lawn darting once a month, she did well.
I have several things to comment on,first of all the young lady over flew open fields that she could have landed in nurseing a sick engine to try and make an airport is not always a good option.,now she ran out of energy and altitude trying to make the runway,ended upside down in a campground with ruptured fuel tanks,and she didnt walk away from this accident fire rescue had to remove her from the plane,one spark and she would have burned to death,other people in the campground were at risk also the outcome was pure luck .The one thing she did do right was not go into a full panic,end of sermon!!
She needed way more training before going solo. She could have easily landed at that airport from the flight track.
She wasn’t ready for this flight.
Where was her gps?
Students must be taught to use their gps before they solo.
Also, what’s the story on this flight school plane? High time engine past tbo? Recent maintenance?
She’s lucky, really really lucky.
@@gulfstream7235 adsb in on fore flight for traffic and nav. I’ve been flying a long time and pre adsb traffic was difficult to find and heck I’ve had a few near misses.
Give all pilots every available resources. You don’t want to be searching in an emergency. This lady could have likely avoided this crash had she had gps
They could have run her through restart checklist . But she did a great job ! And they did a great job , Stayed alive w an engine out that’s always a good outcome planes can be replaced people can’t
She must’ve had some good altitude
5,500 ft at her MAYDAY call.
As a certified electrical engineer, I can see that it looks like electrical grid was unaffected by this minor aircraft crash
IANACFI, but if I'm sending a student out on a solo cross-country, I'm going to spend a few minutes talking about what to do *when* the engine fails. No idea if her CFI did that or not. Also, engine failure means doing whatever is needed to survive. No one cares about the airplane any more - you must survive! In any case, she got it on the ground, and seems to have walked away. It could have been worse, and thankfully no one on the ground injured.
Of course there's absolutely ZERO information on the student pilot
Glad she's Ok but prob Needed more training seat time with her Cfa before any Solos....Also needs to Sight & practice landings (Or at least final set-ups) at all Nearby airfields, runways & usable open areas to Practice for any emergency Diverts within the expected flying area....Not being critical just mentioning common sense cockpit training preparation Before encountering the real deal Alone.....
Exactly right. That takes lots of practice and time. Most cfi’s just want to check the boxes to get you soloed.
Lots can be practiced in the sim now bc flight sims have some so far
Instructor did a great job of teaching her to talk on the radio and not enough time teaching her how to land on an airport under her.
Uploader should remove the "panicked" in the title....
Yeah, most everyone would panic for a few seconds. Even high time glider guys.
She flew that plane fight too the crash site..👍🏽
panic and airplanes aren't a good fit. you have a set of procedures to follow and have hopefully demonstrated such to the CFI who signed you off to solo. a C-172 is a pretty easy aircraft to fly.
you didnt watch the video, did you?
@@Natemare13 I honestly quit after the "I am panicking" comment. I am an instructor and I hate seeing people solo who arent comfortable in the plane
@@ohiyesa2328 noone with any amount of experience is comfortable in such an emergency situation.
@@Natemare13 no. it's just something I think about with my students. Is this someone who is going to panic under duress?
@@ohiyesa2328You can never tell who is going to panic in a particular situation. The person you think will be great in an emergency can fall apart at that time. She did very well in this situation and kept it together.
Very young sounding girl seems to be flying way beyond abilities & is simply Lucky to have survived the probably avoidable crash....Stop the solo flights, get way more instruction or best, cut losses count yo Blessings & give it up for long time....How there wasn't a bad fire is a miracle !!
As a student pilot who just completed all my solo requirements. I can safely say she is not ready to solo…. First off she’s panicking and she didn’t have runway insight for a long time even though she’s flying right above it. She had a good setup to land on the runway but for some reason she missed her chance….
That 210° vector ATC gave her sent her on a right-hand approach over the top the field, which was surrounded by 50-foot trees of the 4,510-acre Mattatuck State Forest. So good luck with that...
But students have to learn to land a plane with engine off - she should know what the way to do is, instead of panicking. And - does she not have any GPS display showing all airfields, her position and distance....
Exactly! The ac may have had adsb in and gps. Adsb is a potential life saver and all students need to know how to use it. Gps too, D for direct to nearest. Anyone not teaching a student how to use this is doing them a disservice now days
there is no way this plane flew for 6:30 with the engine off......
Maybe 9:10 with the engine sputtering, off, etc...
Airspeed started decreasing at 10:46:50 AM at 5,500 ft from 87 kts to 50 kts, then back to 85 kts at 3,700 ft at 10:50:33 AM and fluctuated.
Last ADS-B data point was at 10:54:31 AM, airspeed was 64 kts at 1,000 ft (Cessna 172 Stall Speeds Vs1= 61 kts Vs0= 54 kts).
So, about 7 min. 41 sec. of sputtering, stalling, coughing, deadstick, whatever to 1,000 ft.
Using her average -671 fpm ADS-B decent rate from 5,500 ft, add another 1 min 29 sec for the last 1,000 ft or 9 min 10 sec total flight time from 5,500 ft to the ground, linear.
Why? Even well into the incident she’s 4000 AGL, the 172 has about a 9:1 engine out glide ratio
At 70 knots that’s about 700 ft/min or almost 5 min from from that point. She reported engine off a minute earlier than that. Probably 1000 feet higher at the onset.
@@BillPalmer minus 1300ft field elevation....
@@kjemad still, apparently it did
Al those people congratulating her on a great job: She did not to a great job and that is a simple fact. She could have easily landed on that huge open area and walked away without a scratch. Why would you try to put it down into a short strip surrounded by trees? Because controllers only see strips doesn't mean you can't look outside and make your own decision. I know it's hard for a student pilot, but you shouldn't even solo until you've learned how to pick out possible landing areas, wherever you go. I'm glad she's ok, but it could have killed her just as easily.
Where / what "huge open area?"
I’ve landed at this grass strip a few times in my previous Maule, set up with STOL ability. I can assure you it is not at all easy to find, among the mountainous terrain and thick trees. 2000’ is generous, more like 1500 at best with 50-80 foot trees at each end.
So, given the experience level and unavoidable panic, she did a remarkable job.
My instructor did multiple random "engine out" scenarios with me. His main objective was to see if I could make a decision on an adequate emergency landing site other then an airstrip.
yawn. everyone is posting this same thing today. 😂
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This is a stupid title. How about Student Pilot handles engine failure and survives? Unsubscribe
The title on all news websites was similar to this one, so I used it.
As you commented to someone else... you didn't watch the video did you? She said she was panicking and she crashed into a campground... pretty accurate fit
She made the airstrip not once but twice, and for some reason flew left of the runway and crashed...This woman was talking about calling Poughkeepsie at a critical phase when she should have been trying to land the aircraft to save her life...
"Poughkeepsie Tower" is the Hudson Valley Regional Airport (KPOU) control tower and is located 7 miles south of the City of Poughkeepsie. That is where she began her cross-country flight. She wanted the FBO to know she was making an emergency landing. She is a student pilot and young. Give her a break here.
@@jimw1615 I was aware of that when I heard her say it and don't need it explained to me as if I didn't understand...She was thinking about the wrong thing...She needed to be focused on one thing and one thing only...Getting that plane down...This is what Dan Gryder teaches...There were miles of grass fields in between Pequabuck Golf Course and Chippen Hill Golf course for a safe wheels-up landing...
Well, the 1st time "she made the airstrip" she didn't see it on a right-hand downwind/ base. I mean, why not? The airstrip is only dead center in the middle of the 4,510 acre Mattatuck State Forest. How could she possibly miss it???
@@Raiders33 Because it is a small patch of grass that looks like nothing. Because she had it on her right which means she did not see it at all for a lot of time. Beause she is a student, not an experienced pilot. Because you most likely never piloted anything other than MSFS.
@@pawepluta4883 Ummm, my comment was SARCASTIC. 🙄
Why do women always run out of gas?
i hadn't seen the accident report. So I assume you did and know it wasn't a mechanical failure?
@@AttorneyBCollins Just a stupid comment. Relax. She did great job under the circumstances, and everyone knows it.
Ladies: reminder to check the gas guage before leaving.