No, no. I'd rather rack my brain trying to figure out why I'm getting 2 additional clients when I pipe `hyprctl clients` through `gawk`. (All I want to do is make every window transparent before activating the lock screen so that I can see my animated backgrounds instead of relying on hyprlock's built-in support for static images. Then I can simply restore the alpha values after unlocking the screen.)
@@Calebborle macOS is UNIX(tm) just ask the open group who administers the trademark and certification. Oh no I Walked into that minefield, why do I keep doing this to myself, I've got to stop posting comments while drunk :)
That's why we should make our own distros, that spies on ourselves, has the worst package manager known to man and will definitely break on every key you try to press.
but seriously, TempleOS doesn't use Init runlevels and it isn't capable of offloading the GUI into shared memory to switch to low-usage mode (suspend). even Haiku does it right?
@@StripesTheEmoji404 I wonder if somebodies tried to do that. every single package manager, has every single system daemon manager, every single desktop environment, every single shell, every single terminal, everything. THE Linux OS.
Just install two separate repositories, one for stable long term packages, and one for the latest and greatest, both available simultaneously so you can choose whichever one you want a given package to come from.
@@escthedark3709the AUR has so much source code only packages and needing to manually install an AUR helper makes me even wonder why people who say this (and defend the KDE desktop not having packagekit despite coming with Discover) don't just use Gentoo instead.
The only distro 99% of the community thinks is good is Mint. It is peak for new users. If anyone asks for a good distro for beginners, the top answer is always Mint. Mint is the vanilla ice cream of distros
I usually recommend Mint for complete beginner who don't tinker with their OS. For those who are more 'advance' I usually go with Debian or Endeavour. I personally really like Arch but to be fair not everyone is willing to spend most time figuring how their OS works than actually using it
"lmao layman take" - yes. exactly. its a simple to use and understand Linux distro comparatively for new users ... the actual definition of laymans terms ...
what is up with the whole "brand new users should be able to build Arch up from scratch or not even try" mentality within the Linux sphere? i've been using Linux for a long time and it really seems to be more of a newer thing, or at least way worse ... most Windows users wanting to swap over or something are scared even looking at a terminal, they don't have hours to set aside to debug and learn things like we do. I know theres a very high likelihood you didn't even start with something like Arch (without an install script or video at least) - and if you did ... why ... ?
@@moffichu9150 somehow people dont seem to comprehend the fact that most persons want to actually use their computer instead of fidgeting with random small issues
@@panjimartiandaru3081 Does it? Genuinely curious, been using it for nearly 2 years (Manjaro KDE), been switching to all the fancy new stuff like wayland/pipewire with all the minor broken things (though it "just worked" since quite a few months) and even encryption + btrfs and I'm genuinely just happy. Rate of minor things breaking for a week is low, lower than other distros I tried before, though maybe just the whole linux ecosystem improved anyways. I got a tiny bit mad at Manjaro for a bit when I found out they're not including x264 hardware encoding support for stupid corpo reasons until I got an AV1 capable laptop (and even before, it didn't ACTUALLY matter that much). So I don't really get the hate it gets. It's stable and I get pretty new stuff, that's all I need
I played around with a couple BSD flavors in a VM. I think I liked GhostBSD simply because the GUI was already set up. If I remember correctly. I need to go back and play with BSD again. Yes, I said "play". I did that with Linux for a while before I finally adopted it. I spent many years on Windows before I finally switched. Who knows, I could be persuaded to switch again if it seems appealing enough to me. I definitely don't dislike it. I have an open mind.
I would also like to add that all computers are unholy creation of the devil (IRS) made to steal your soul (Tax money) and the only way out is installing templeOS and connecting with god (developing schizophrenia)
@@StripesTheEmoji404 the PCs booted from network. It was Gentoo 😂 I think they used Gentoo to modify it for their needs. We also wrote exams on those machines.
I’m on Arch Linux, and bumped into an issue today where I couldn’t update any packages because of a bad PGP key. After looking around online, I decided to just use a live boot media and pacstrap the package with the bad PGP key and chroot in to get the updates. When I went to restart my system after this, the system failed to recognize the boot directory because it didn’t understand what a VFAT partition is. So, I just when back into the live media and used pacstrap to update the linux kernel and create a good boot image (I suspected the image was broken), then refreshed the grub config and made no changes to the fstab. My system went back to running. I have no idea why this worked, but I’m back in business and successfully updated my packages. Arch is just the right amount of jank to keep anyone on their toes (or I’m just incompetent).
if i remember correctly, all you have to do is update archlinux-keyring package or something. that way u can update. happens everytime if u haven't updated arch for at least 3 weeks i think. it's an issue that the solution i keep forgetting lmao that it had stuck on to me
This is a feature, not a bug. I use Debian because I'm old and irritable and I don't like people changing my shït around just as I'm getting used to it. I don't need my computer to do the latest cool trick that everyone is talking about. That thing probably doesn't actually add any value and everyone will forget about it in 6 months. I just need my computer to boot every time, stay on forever if I want it to, and work the same way tomorrow as it did yesterday. "Debian - it's for old, cranky weirdos."
@@RaytheonTechnologies_Official for me it's basically windows but doesn't crash (Seriously, around like a month or two ago I couldn't even type on cmd without my computer going BSOD lol, had like 7 in a row, now I just stay on mint because I don't feel like optimizing my experience for the sake of it. As long as I'm capable of keeping the ram and cpu usage of my pc to less than 50 or 60% I'm fine with it.)
@@RaytheonTechnologies_Official Same for me using Mint. I just installed it and forgot about it. I think I maybe had to manually update an Nvidia driver once, and that was all the OS tinkering I ever did. I don't care about shiny features! I just want an OS that doesn't get in my way! Off course, what I really wanted was de-bloated Windows that doesn't do random crap in the background, but Microsoft works really hard to provide the exact opposite. I have this stereotype of Arch users that they spend more time configuring their OS than actually using it, and then write forum posts bragging about how tricked out their install is and how many times they broke their OS last week to make it all work.
_"NixOS is superior... Just there's 4 weirdos using it and three of them don't even know how it works and they spend all his time showing off the distro to Arch users, but yeah, great distro for "things", idk how it works"_
Ah there it is ! No discussion of distros is complete without the obligatory NixOS comment 😀 (Seems really cool though, I might even switch and become the fifth weirdo)
As one of those weirdos, I can tell you how it works: A lot of symlinks. (Really, everything is in the store and links to other things in the store) However I cannot tell you how to use it, especially flakes, and I find rust easy.
after your segment with Arch I was thinking about how my system doesn't really break at all, unless I try to do something stupid, and then my fucking audio stopped working for like a minute, and like..... I'd like to apologize💀
In all seriousness, if this video was recreated in a more serious tone with a few descriptive details then it'd be the best introduction to Linux I've seen on RUclips. You've cleared through the brush that is Debian forks and referenced every major distro that a new user might be better off with. (Except Garuda, of course.)
If I were to bag on garuda id say it has way too many apps. And the chaotic aur is less secure than the aur I mean it was cool to go through that stuff as a new user, but not at all condusive to a personalized linux experience a moderate to expert user is likely to prefer.
@@user-in2cs1vp6o Garuda, based on my experience, is one of the most ideal beginner Linux distros. Just install pamac or another GUI for the package manager, and you probably won't need to touch a terminal unless you want to. Relative to something else, it's really bloated. Relative to Windows 10, it uses half the resources. Also, because it has so many applications, you'll have a reference point for how to build up your own Arch-based system if you ever want to move away from it. I still reference Garuda from time to time. But for a moderately experienced user, I can totally understand why you wouldn't want X, Y, and Z taking up space when you don't use it. That's the same reason I switched from desktop environments to compositors. I know enough now that I can install whatever I need myself. But for a newer user without any point of reference, Garuda can serve as a valuable springboard where most of the other distros I've used function more like a series of speed bumps and road blocks.
macOS sucks because it's apple, Windows sucks because it's Microsoft, Linux sucks because there is no good distro. Therefore the only remaining option is of course TempleOS.
@@pikazap6672 it really doesnt have that hard of a "learning curve" imo, its like any other distro but sounds cooler and is more fun imo, though i do wish it could be like arch with the different actual linux kernel options with the void-installer script
Arch on my main gaming PC because I'm a masochist who enjoys creating problems for myself (god I hate epic games launcher), Fedora on my Thinkpad so I can actually get productive things done lmaoo
@@thelakeman2538 I didn't want to bash on Heroic, just hate all these launchers being a thing. Honesty I should be hating the Rockstar launcher because that caused the online issues. GTA Online suddenly stopped working and I had to do a workaround and it wouldn't work on Heroic and for some reason only worked using Legendary and now I have some super odd performance bug after it worked completely fine. Major headache lolll
Arch on every PC I own for the last decade, including my main gaming rig, except for my backup gaming rig. Still got Arch on everything I care about, but I stuck Bazzite on my spare rig for some tv gaming.
I have known people who actually unironically use Gentoo. Apparently a problem is the packages are often out-of-date, which seems ironic to me for a source distro.
I can't hear you over the Linux Theme song playing on my Pop OS workstation. On a serious note, I've noticed that Fallout 4 doesn't crash while playing on Proton. It was always a guarantee to crash on Windows, even without any mods.
Can you modify it easily? I bought the game a few weeks ago and the first thing I did was download a configuration client to disable vsync since the input lag was horrible. I'm currently on Windows
@@micha-8659 I haven't gotten that far yet. I was attempting to mod Fallout 4 but Vortex doesn't use the same file manager when running on Wine, but I installed a few mods that didn't require the script extender. You can also manually add mods or by using MO2 if its supported. I think you would probably enjoy the game more running on Winders if you got it, Linux is somewhat difficult to get mods working for some games.
man, proton at this stage is amazing, it runs all my steam games better than windows, last I played was ArmA reforger, and it worked pretty well even with the anticheat
@@andrewpr9030 I noticed that Fallout 4 runs slightly better on Proton as well, though there are a few times when I needed to configure something. I'm using a 7200rpm 2.5" HDD for both OS and games which is pretty fast compared to what Windows would be.
Have used Pop (initially with reluctance) as daily work driver for over 3 years - so far, very stable, plenty up-to-date, and easy to use with a nice default window management setup. Would recommend both for new users and - maybe more - for enthusiasts / power users / devs who just want a stable and reliable DE that isn't super-backdated. (I love vanilla Debian too, though, don't get me wrong - that was one of my first Linux experiences back around Sarge days.)
As a Windows 11 enjoyer (running the same install for over 2 years now with all updates): I end up putting Arch on all my Linux boxes, because I know it front to back. I've distro-hopped hundreds of times in the past 15 years. Every distro broke in some way, including Arch. Only one of them was always a breeze to fix.
@@traum1693yea idk ab people complaining about “arch breaking all the time” and you needing to spend countless hours fixing. 95% it breaks cause of me (doing partial upgrades or not upgrading in a while, or messing up a config file), and Id rather fix that, which is generally pretty simple than stand for hours wondering why I can’t follow a tutorial on something because my GUI is lacking a button
I actually liked it (especially the update/GUI software manager). My only real worry is that it's handled by like only one guy, and what if he get's bored of doing it? So, back to Fedora, since I didn't need most of the tweaks.
@@TechDregs In that case I'd probably just move over to Fedora. I'm not too sure how much the tweaks of Nobara help, it's just nice to know that I barely have to set up stuff if I want to play games
@@TechDregs What you said is exactly why I am thinking of jumping to Bazzite. At least Bazzite is maintained by over 70 people. But I am too damn lazy to distro hop right now. I got Nobara set up with modded games (which is annoying to do in Linux), EmulationStation and Kodi and man I cannot be bothered, especially if Bazzite ends up sucking LOL
@@TechDregs I believe he has a team to help him nowdays, if I remember correctly reading in his discord. Also he's a redhat employee so doubt he will stop using linux anytime soon. Tho I do agree with the sentiment of using distros you know will be around in 10 years. Love nobara, will probably use that if I ever have to reinstall my fedora installation.
NixOS is peak. People rag on it for having an evil learning curve, but so far I've been having a good time on it. Being able to have a stable distro AND be rolling release at the same time with literally zero dependency issues is insane.
stable and rolling: doesnt dual boot some stable and rolling distro will give you same but without this fancy setup and with classic fhs. and one file config doenst convince me for easy reinstall. how often do you want to reinstall anyway?
@@TechDregsrookie mistake, you need 5 independent 25Mb connections, and run several instances of zypper sumulatiously to enable zypper's parallel download feature.
NixOs unstable users getting stability and newest packages. Will not look anywhere else for my distro hopping. Hard to start, hard to master, but when you get everything running you need, haven't been on a stabler linux distro.
@@Liperium Did you think _I_ was a bot? (Well you're not the first to think that. 🤣) My comment was more supposed to be a joke about how NixOS replaces distro hopping with config hopping, with every generation being considered as effectively a separate distro. I've reinstalled my system before, but I make sure to always preserve my generation number.
My only complaints with Nix so far is the lack of secure boot support on GRUB (SystemD-Boot looks like ass), Waydroid third party libraries (like libhoudini) being a bit of a pain to install, DaVinci Resolve being broken right now (no shortcut and ROCM support is busted), and there being no package for Maya or Mudbox (which have Linux ports and at least one of them is on the AUR). The flake system and such is initially hard to wrap your mind around, but it's worth the learning curve.
Pop OS is mostly plug n play, has a mac style layout and works with valves proton layer for games. Its important to have an option for people who despise the terminal and want as little to do with it as possible
I switched to Arch for the very first time a few weeks ago. Ngl, so far you're right, configuring it is so bad that my system isn't even finished yet. But i LOVE IT! As you said, it's a hobby of mine to just sit there and configure away. Even with Ubuntu and any other Distro i've used, i always configured and changed my desktops constantly and when i was done used it for a week and then started changing it entirely. Arch is perfect, it's so fun to configure stuff.
I will keep windows installed for the longest time because there's a lot of windows only software I use that doesn't run well under wine (substance painter)
imo i feel like people should pick one of these four distros according to their needs: - Fedora (easy, stable, gets very recent updates, but sells your data to advertisers) - Debian (easy, stable, gets very old updates, and does not sell your data to advertisers) - Arch (hard, only unstable if skill issue, gets the most recent updates, and does not sell your data to advertisers) - NixOS (hard-ish, stable, gets very recent updates, and doesnt sell your data to advertisers... i think?) (bonus: majority of the OS is configured by one single file, which gives it convenience, it also has the largest amount of packages out of these four) What's my favorite? Definitely Arch because it doesn't track you like fedora does, but I would definitely choose Fedora as the second best since it's technically more stable than Arch while also boasting the same capabilities.
I never understood why people say arch is hard. Once i got past the initial install step which is just pasting commands from the wiki into the terminal (there are even gui installers for that now) it became as easy as ubuntu/fedora except instead of typing apt-get and dnf i type pacman or yay instead. Now i use nixos, while it has some obvious benefits and i don't think i can use a regular linux distro again, the documentation has been consistently horrible and unfriendly so i would say it is many times harder than arch linux.
Jokes aside, everyone is trying to resolve their cognitive dissonance. Everyone wants to believe they chose the "best". People need to learn to not base their self worth on the idea that they are always choose the "best". Is my distro "the best"? Honestly, IDGAF if it's the best or if someone thinks it sucks. It does what I need it to do. It doesn't give me more hassle than I'm willing to tolerate. It's good enough. If that changes, I will likely switch to another. That's the nice thing about Linux, though. If I don't like this one, I can bail out and try another. In fact, when I encounter a "which distro" thread, I tell them, "Just try them all and see which one fits you. It costs you nothing but time." It might even help you recognize what you need from a distribution. Also, Windows sucks. It's objectively the worst. It's better to give up a few games with root-kits than to allow Microsoft the ability to spy on you and not give you full control of your PC.
A friend of mine, who has been in tech for years, but has always stuck to Windows as his primary OS, finally switched to Linux a while ago. His verdict was "I can't believe I didn't switch sooner"
i'm literally shaking in anger right now. i dont think you realize how much this is making me simmer right now, there is literally nothing i can do to express how much anger this video has built inside of me, this one piece of media was capable to touch an inner demon i never knew i had.
Sad to see universal blue /bluefin wasnt mentioned, it being basically just configurations via oci images, gives you all the benefit of it being maintained and getting all of the fedora updates every week, while giving you actual sane defaults plus the stability and the ease of use with atomic desktops
I've been using mint for several months now and so far the only problems I've had are ones I created myself, which is how I like it. And more than I can say for my Windows experience. Of course I used Windows for much longer, so there's plenty of time for mint to let me down.
Good video, but stop telling me I'm not German. I AM GERMAN and used openSuse in a VM on top of Arch Linux and broke it today. And every distro has it's downsides, but it is better than windows or that stupid mac os.
Let's agree that Android is the best Linux distribution. It's open-source, stable, and up-to-date at the same time. It's lightweight and doesn't try to look like Windows
I don't actually understand the comments (not just here) about arch linux being terrible for real-world use. I've been using arch (btw) as my daily drive for about 7 years now and it's been stable for me. I pacman -Syyu about once a week. I can't say I've never had anything break on me, of course there have been those moments, but I don't know anyone who uses any other distro that hasn't had things break once in a while. Also, isn't SteamOS 3.0 and later based on arch? Edit: to be clear, i use arch for work (i'm fortunate my job gives us lots of freedom to use the tools of our choice) as well as personal use. I also don't have any problem with windows or macOS. it's good to know them all.
When I switched to Arch I expected to break it in a week then try another distro. It's been five months and I'm still waiting... I feel betrayed by all the false advertisement 😢
@@quaesitrix881 when i did the same thing, it wouldn't let me update because of some certificate/key bs and i just gave up. it seems they recently fixed this though by always updating the keyring.
@@xgui4-studios Well honestly considering the momentum behind Linux desktop, Debian 13 with GNOME 48 and KDE Plasma 6.3 might be honestly a good distro for a long time. VRR, VR, HDR and explicit sync and what more do you need from a desktop really.
Software is way more important than operating systems. People who focus 95% of their computer time on the OS itself, instead of focusing on software clearly have no life.
1:55 there is no such term as 'Desktop Manager' in the GNU/Linux world. There is 'Window Manager', 'Display Manager's etc. The term you meant to say was 'Desktop Environment'.
I'm using Fedora because turns out, enterprisy stuff is where the developers lock in to make something that's stable and nice to use. This is also why the Windows installation I'm dualbooting it with and where I spend most of my time especially when I'm doing something useful is Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021
funny that i got this video in my feed basically after throwing a massive fit about not getting my stuff to just work on linux mint everytime i keep hearing oh linux is so easy to use now yada yada, then i try to set up something simple, next thing i know im 6hours into 60 different turorials with 20 terminals open with sudos and paths and apt gets everywhere and this "super simple" thing that works on all the tutorials suddenly dont work for me
I feel like the only one that would be best for me is my own operating system. Sure it would take a while but i might learn a lot about computers and everything under the hood.
Linux Mint is probably the only distro which should help most people who are coming from Windows. Uses less memory, most things work, no bloatware(like ubuntu). Stay away from source distros like fedora, debian, arch. Those require you to figure out much using command line and not for beginners.
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact "World of Linux," or as I refer to it, "Linux Fantasy XIV." Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather a role-playing game around which those with no accomplishments can desperately form some sort of identity. You start off with your OS in an incomplete state, then you perform easily searchable, tedious manual quests trying to piece it together into something that is barely functional for a small set of tasks. Other Linux players congratulate you on playing the game and on your level progression, giving you a real sense of accomplishment for your virtual progress. If you thought you were getting a real OS, you just don't understand Linux.
I think OpenSUSE has the least corpo rot of the big 3 corpo distros. Zypper is indeed slow but I can confirm that Tumbleweed is one of the more stable rolling release distros. It's a happy medium for me personally. I used to distro hop a lot but now I think I've finally found something that fits my use case.
Real talk: I wanted to run OpenSUSE and not Fedora, but I ran into problems. One thing is that they sometimes rename packages slightly, and it was causing dependencies to break and I'd have to manually fix it. But I liked YAST after I figured out what to do with it, and I think the slowroll distro is neat.
@@TechDregs I haven't had dependency breakages necessarily but yeah, the package names are weird. I did end up having to install the Flatpak of OBS and Pulseeffects because the former is outdated and Zypper complained about potential breakages for the latter. Maybe I ought to try Slowroll or change the mirrors somehow on my existing installation since I'm using it on a 2011 HP 8200 Elite SFF and I don't touch it every day. I have even gone over a week without updating once. It timed out at first but I refreshed the mirrors and then it updated fine. Manjaro is known to break because it holds packages back the way it does but I guess mileage varies with Tumbleweed. OpenSUSE can also be finicky with some hardware whereas Fedora isn't but I've had good compatibility with both on older and newer hardware. In any case, I love the video.
True, I spent a lot of time troubleshooting on arch, but tbh, once that mandatory 1 month period is through, it just works. Been running my desktop for 5 years now without any major issues. I once had to revert a faulty mesa package that crashed x11, but overall it's great. Imo, over the years, I think the most unstable part of arch is getting started. Lots of stuff in the beginning doesn't work or is borked in some funny way and it can also be irritating as heck, but I find that after that's done with, it's pretty chill. I tried using debian based systems, but they are just plain annoying. Too little user freedom, meh package managers and waaaay too much jank. Like, with arch, when you got it down, it works like a charm. But while debian, doesn't have major issues, it has a shitton of irritating bugs and quirks that overtime make you go insane. So, I'll take my 8hr troubleshooting session thank you.
My dudes, this video is a joke. Don't take it too seriously.
Update: Let's make this clear, I talked about Nix exactly as much as it deserved.
I am deeply offended
This hipster is offended
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@@zeineldinfahed4292 \q internet
Excuses
@@AlbertASGrr Don't forget to say disgusting first
My first mistake was getting into Computers. It only went downhill from there.
My first mistake was getting born.
@@LedoCool1( ´,_ゝ`)
@@LedoCool1 You can exit if you don't like it.
@@oredaze oh, wrong convo. No r/n I can't. Have responsibility I want to carry out till the end. Will plan my exit strategy by then.
@@LedoCool1 You live for responsibility? No wonder you don't like it.
"Arch isn't an operating system, it's a hobby." 🤣🤣🤣
hes wrong, arch is a full time job
fact
@@YukariAkiyamaa job implies you get paid to do it
NixOS is my life style, where can I apply for NixOS job
That is why I went to void
windows sucks. mac sucks. linux sucks.
solution?
seek refuge in the Himalayas and learn the ways of the Monk
And if you really need a computer, use 9front on an MNT Reform
Temple OS
Go touch grass
@@bac0nknight691 go touch the monks bald head
monks use Arch.
I use Hannah Montana OS btw
holy carp it's real
@@sockdivine6144😂
@@sockdivine6144no fucking way
lets be honest, we all suck at linux, lets go grab a book, some tea and forget about it
My OS was not a loser was not a sucker you're the sucker you're the loser
the book is called lfs
No, no.
I'd rather rack my brain trying to figure out why I'm getting 2 additional clients when I pipe `hyprctl clients` through `gawk`.
(All I want to do is make every window transparent before activating the lock screen so that I can see my animated backgrounds instead of relying on hyprlock's built-in support for static images. Then I can simply restore the alpha values after unlocking the screen.)
Tea sucks
I prefer water but ok
Your linux distro sucks, because it isn't windows. Your windows sucks, because it is windows.
lol
What about macOS?
@@Calebborle macOS is UNIX(tm) just ask the open group who administers the trademark and certification. Oh no I Walked into that minefield, why do I keep doing this to myself, I've got to stop posting comments while drunk :)
@@Calebborleit sucks a bit less than windows
@@Calebborle Way better than Windows - not to say it's good, just kinda decent
That's why we should make our own distros, that spies on ourselves, has the worst package manager known to man and will definitely break on every key you try to press.
Pretty much OsakaOS
@@DV_Cruz333 OsakaOS is genius for all the wrong reasons.
you just said arch four times
That's basically just windows 11 lmao
@f67739 what on earth is your beef with pacman?
That is why I use Temple OS. Created by God himself.
Amen
but seriously, TempleOS doesn't use Init runlevels and it isn't capable of offloading the GUI into shared memory to switch to low-usage mode (suspend). even Haiku does it right?
@@unucellply4221 That's all BS, TempleOS is literally God's operating system.
@@unucellply4221 Take it up with Mr. God if you think that's really worth having.
@@unucellply4221 If you cannot do something on TempleOS, it's because God wouldn't want you to do it.
0:44 what a terrible day to have eyes
Preach!
My sight! 😭
How tf did he even find this
Whichever distro YOU'RE using, that one's the worst.
I am using ALL of them, so they're all the worst
@@StripesTheEmoji404 I wonder if somebodies tried to do that. every single package manager, has every single system daemon manager, every single desktop environment, every single shell, every single terminal, everything. THE Linux OS.
@@goos42The Linuxing
Gentoo isnt bad i daily drived it for 5 years straight.
@@goos42 the linuxmaxxer
Using a stable distro is good until I hear people talk about the new shiny stuff, and then suddenly, I want the new shiny stuff.
Just install two separate repositories, one for stable long term packages, and one for the latest and greatest, both available simultaneously so you can choose whichever one you want a given package to come from.
I have destroyed my FOMO and you should too. You can wait.
You can have both of those with NixOS, if you're fine with config files.
@@Person01234 Yeah, I'm on Debian now. I'll see if I can last when gnome 47 comes out
@@genblobReject Gnome, revert to LXDE
All distros suck and have to much bloat i just use the kernel
the gnu core utils are bloated too fr
I don’t even use the kernel. I flip my bits using toggle switches and incandescent bulbs.
It took me 14 days to post this comment.
linux is to mainstream I should get into temple os
Yeah, I just wrote my OS in Assembly extremely optimized only for my CPU and Computer... It runs like water!
@@kondo-ii nice im also on mac
Just switched from Arch to Mint two weeks ago. Outdated packages are a pain, but at least I'm not afraid of my own computer
How do you survive without the Arch wiki and AUR?
@@escthedark3709 Flatpak, and downshifting
@@escthedark3709 "How do you survive without {the entire point of using arch}"
@@escthedark3709the AUR has so much source code only packages and needing to manually install an AUR helper makes me even wonder why people who say this (and defend the KDE desktop not having packagekit despite coming with Discover) don't just use Gentoo instead.
Lol with arch i can't even use my external drive properly, and on ubuntu it simply works.
The only distro 99% of the community thinks is good is Mint. It is peak for new users. If anyone asks for a good distro for beginners, the top answer is always Mint. Mint is the vanilla ice cream of distros
lmao layman take
I usually recommend Mint for complete beginner who don't tinker with their OS. For those who are more 'advance' I usually go with Debian or Endeavour. I personally really like Arch but to be fair not everyone is willing to spend most time figuring how their OS works than actually using it
"lmao layman take" - yes. exactly. its a simple to use and understand Linux distro comparatively for new users ... the actual definition of laymans terms ...
what is up with the whole "brand new users should be able to build Arch up from scratch or not even try" mentality within the Linux sphere? i've been using Linux for a long time and it really seems to be more of a newer thing, or at least way worse ... most Windows users wanting to swap over or something are scared even looking at a terminal, they don't have hours to set aside to debug and learn things like we do. I know theres a very high likelihood you didn't even start with something like Arch (without an install script or video at least) - and if you did ... why ... ?
@@moffichu9150 somehow people dont seem to comprehend the fact that most persons want to actually use their computer instead of fidgeting with random small issues
That’s why pros like me use amogOS
Aaaaah! I see what you did there!
This is probably the best roast of Linux distros I've seen so far. While it's exaggerated for comedic purposes, it's actually accurate.
It’s funny cause it’s true 😂
FR 😂😂😂
(Manjaro user here, yes its as sucks as this video said 😅)
The accuracy is insane 😮
@@panjimartiandaru3081 Does it? Genuinely curious, been using it for nearly 2 years (Manjaro KDE), been switching to all the fancy new stuff like wayland/pipewire with all the minor broken things (though it "just worked" since quite a few months) and even encryption + btrfs and I'm genuinely just happy. Rate of minor things breaking for a week is low, lower than other distros I tried before, though maybe just the whole linux ecosystem improved anyways. I got a tiny bit mad at Manjaro for a bit when I found out they're not including x264 hardware encoding support for stupid corpo reasons until I got an AV1 capable laptop (and even before, it didn't ACTUALLY matter that much).
So I don't really get the hate it gets. It's stable and I get pretty new stuff, that's all I need
jokes on you, i use freebsd
That’s cool! I use freebsd btw
People say freebdsm is nice.
I played around with a couple BSD flavors in a VM. I think I liked GhostBSD simply because the GUI was already set up. If I remember correctly. I need to go back and play with BSD again.
Yes, I said "play". I did that with Linux for a while before I finally adopted it. I spent many years on Windows before I finally switched. Who knows, I could be persuaded to switch again if it seems appealing enough to me. I definitely don't dislike it. I have an open mind.
The gigadork
GigaDork
I fully agree, and would go a step further to suggest that operating systems in general suck.
I would also like to add that all computers are unholy creation of the devil (IRS) made to steal your soul (Tax money) and the only way out is installing templeOS and connecting with god (developing schizophrenia)
I will not stand for this unix compliance and posix semi comliance slander!!!
yeah personally I just run straight out of the kernel and nothing else
Ted Kaczynski moment
Yea, but we just get used to suckiness and get brainwashed to say they're good
My university had a Linux laboratory. Every PC was Gentoo 😂
Lemme guess, ChromeOS? (Or was it straight up Gentoo lmao)
@@StripesTheEmoji404 the PCs booted from network. It was Gentoo 😂 I think they used Gentoo to modify it for their needs. We also wrote exams on those machines.
I’m on Arch Linux, and bumped into an issue today where I couldn’t update any packages because of a bad PGP key. After looking around online, I decided to just use a live boot media and pacstrap the package with the bad PGP key and chroot in to get the updates. When I went to restart my system after this, the system failed to recognize the boot directory because it didn’t understand what a VFAT partition is. So, I just when back into the live media and used pacstrap to update the linux kernel and create a good boot image (I suspected the image was broken), then refreshed the grub config and made no changes to the fstab. My system went back to running. I have no idea why this worked, but I’m back in business and successfully updated my packages. Arch is just the right amount of jank to keep anyone on their toes (or I’m just incompetent).
if i remember correctly, all you have to do is update archlinux-keyring package or something. that way u can update.
happens everytime if u haven't updated arch for at least 3 weeks i think. it's an issue that the solution i keep forgetting lmao that it had stuck on to me
pacman -Syyu should have fixed it.
use endeavour os. its arch made easy
@@plinkplinkfizz tried this, didn’t work :( truely a weird issue
@@KizukiKotataki first thing I tried, it updated the keys properly then failed to update pckages, hence the roundabout solution I cooked up
Even as a "joke", this video is correct about Debian being [almost] 4 years behind schedule on their apps! LOL
comedy is derived from reality after all
This is a feature, not a bug. I use Debian because I'm old and irritable and I don't like people changing my shït around just as I'm getting used to it. I don't need my computer to do the latest cool trick that everyone is talking about. That thing probably doesn't actually add any value and everyone will forget about it in 6 months. I just need my computer to boot every time, stay on forever if I want it to, and work the same way tomorrow as it did yesterday.
"Debian - it's for old, cranky weirdos."
this is by design, this is why debian is as stable as it gets
@@RaytheonTechnologies_Official for me it's basically windows but doesn't crash (Seriously, around like a month or two ago I couldn't even type on cmd without my computer going BSOD lol, had like 7 in a row, now I just stay on mint because I don't feel like optimizing my experience for the sake of it. As long as I'm capable of keeping the ram and cpu usage of my pc to less than 50 or 60% I'm fine with it.)
@@RaytheonTechnologies_Official Same for me using Mint. I just installed it and forgot about it. I think I maybe had to manually update an Nvidia driver once, and that was all the OS tinkering I ever did. I don't care about shiny features! I just want an OS that doesn't get in my way! Off course, what I really wanted was de-bloated Windows that doesn't do random crap in the background, but Microsoft works really hard to provide the exact opposite.
I have this stereotype of Arch users that they spend more time configuring their OS than actually using it, and then write forum posts bragging about how tricked out their install is and how many times they broke their OS last week to make it all work.
_"NixOS is superior... Just there's 4 weirdos using it and three of them don't even know how it works and they spend all his time showing off the distro to Arch users, but yeah, great distro for "things", idk how it works"_
real
Hello, I am one of the three people you mentioned.
Ah there it is ! No discussion of distros is complete without the obligatory NixOS comment 😀
(Seems really cool though, I might even switch and become the fifth weirdo)
As one of those weirdos, I can tell you how it works: A lot of symlinks. (Really, everything is in the store and links to other things in the store)
However I cannot tell you how to use it, especially flakes, and I find rust easy.
nix seems pretty cool but i am not a fan of home manager and the lack of FHS is going to drive me crazy.
after your segment with Arch I was thinking about how my system doesn't really break at all, unless I try to do something stupid, and then my fucking audio stopped working for like a minute, and like..... I'd like to apologize💀
use btrfs. when it gets fucked, just revert your system to an hour ago and bam
In all seriousness, if this video was recreated in a more serious tone with a few descriptive details then it'd be the best introduction to Linux I've seen on RUclips.
You've cleared through the brush that is Debian forks and referenced every major distro that a new user might be better off with. (Except Garuda, of course.)
If I were to bag on garuda id say it has way too many apps.
And the chaotic aur is less secure than the aur
I mean it was cool to go through that stuff as a new user, but not at all condusive to a personalized linux experience a moderate to expert user is likely to prefer.
@@user-in2cs1vp6o Garuda, based on my experience, is one of the most ideal beginner Linux distros. Just install pamac or another GUI for the package manager, and you probably won't need to touch a terminal unless you want to.
Relative to something else, it's really bloated. Relative to Windows 10, it uses half the resources. Also, because it has so many applications, you'll have a reference point for how to build up your own Arch-based system if you ever want to move away from it. I still reference Garuda from time to time.
But for a moderately experienced user, I can totally understand why you wouldn't want X, Y, and Z taking up space when you don't use it. That's the same reason I switched from desktop environments to compositors. I know enough now that I can install whatever I need myself. But for a newer user without any point of reference, Garuda can serve as a valuable springboard where most of the other distros I've used function more like a series of speed bumps and road blocks.
macOS sucks because it's apple, Windows sucks because it's Microsoft, Linux sucks because there is no good distro.
Therefore the only remaining option is of course TempleOS.
Bro has some problems with void linux 😭
void linux is unique. its not rebranded debian, ubuntu or arch. i use it too, and its amazing.
@@pikazap6672 Yeah We entered the Void!
@@pikazap6672how is the support for NVIDIA (prime offloading, RTX 30XX) there? May consider using it for the runit.
@@pikazap6672 Holy glaze
@@pikazap6672 it really doesnt have that hard of a "learning curve" imo, its like any other distro but sounds cooler and is more fun imo, though i do wish it could be like arch with the different actual linux kernel options with the void-installer script
Arch on my main gaming PC because I'm a masochist who enjoys creating problems for myself (god I hate epic games launcher), Fedora on my Thinkpad so I can actually get productive things done lmaoo
Heroic launcher works just fine, why use the epic games launcher on linux ?
@@thelakeman2538 I didn't want to bash on Heroic, just hate all these launchers being a thing. Honesty I should be hating the Rockstar launcher because that caused the online issues.
GTA Online suddenly stopped working and I had to do a workaround and it wouldn't work on Heroic and for some reason only worked using Legendary and now I have some super odd performance bug after it worked completely fine. Major headache lolll
Epic doesn't deserve to be working in the first place.
it's a feature not an issue.
@@spoobspoob2270 yeah game publishers packing in their shitty launcher just sucks especially when it doesn't add anything but is really just DRM.
Arch on every PC I own for the last decade, including my main gaming rig, except for my backup gaming rig. Still got Arch on everything I care about, but I stuck Bazzite on my spare rig for some tv gaming.
I will still take all the problems with Linux as opposed to whatever the hell is going on with Windows.
I have known people who actually unironically use Gentoo.
Apparently a problem is the packages are often out-of-date, which seems ironic to me for a source distro.
Gentoo is a "stable" distro but it has testing packages in case if you want to go unstable with the use package mask config from /etc/portage
I can't hear you over the Linux Theme song playing on my Pop OS workstation.
On a serious note, I've noticed that Fallout 4 doesn't crash while playing on Proton. It was always a guarantee to crash on Windows, even without any mods.
Can you modify it easily? I bought the game a few weeks ago and the first thing I did was download a configuration client to disable vsync since the input lag was horrible. I'm currently on Windows
@@micha-8659 I haven't gotten that far yet. I was attempting to mod Fallout 4 but Vortex doesn't use the same file manager when running on Wine, but I installed a few mods that didn't require the script extender. You can also manually add mods or by using MO2 if its supported. I think you would probably enjoy the game more running on Winders if you got it, Linux is somewhat difficult to get mods working for some games.
man, proton at this stage is amazing, it runs all my steam games better than windows, last I played was ArmA reforger, and it worked pretty well even with the anticheat
@@andrewpr9030 I noticed that Fallout 4 runs slightly better on Proton as well, though there are a few times when I needed to configure something. I'm using a 7200rpm 2.5" HDD for both OS and games which is pretty fast compared to what Windows would be.
I've always said that "all operating systems sucks so pick the one that sucks the least for you, but always remember that it still sucks"
As a Pole, we also pronounce it as gnu like Germans.
Arch won't spy on me (out of the box) and in this day and age that is good enough for me.
xz backdoor entered the chat. lol jk
@@swagmuffin9000xz backdoor left the chat as quickly as it entered because a MS employee accidentally discovered it lmao
i sure love reading a rss feed everytime i need to update!
@@swagmuffin9000 xz backdoor didn't affect Arch.
Gentoo is really meant for building consoles and pretty much being a set and forget sort of deal. Android and ChromeOS are custom Gentoo distros
i know about chromeos, but where did you hear android was based off gentoo?
Ppl who run Android OS on their desktop 🗿
Every linux distro sucks in their own speical way
5:04 Do people actually use alpine as a desktop OS? I’ve only ever seen it used with docker containers.
Pop OS also ships new software, new kernel, drivers, etc. So it's basically the "fedora" of debian OSs
Have used Pop (initially with reluctance) as daily work driver for over 3 years - so far, very stable, plenty up-to-date, and easy to use with a nice default window management setup. Would recommend both for new users and - maybe more - for enthusiasts / power users / devs who just want a stable and reliable DE that isn't super-backdated. (I love vanilla Debian too, though, don't get me wrong - that was one of my first Linux experiences back around Sarge days.)
As a Windows 11 enjoyer (running the same install for over 2 years now with all updates): I end up putting Arch on all my Linux boxes, because I know it front to back. I've distro-hopped hundreds of times in the past 15 years. Every distro broke in some way, including Arch. Only one of them was always a breeze to fix.
this fr, arch is just straight logic and thus easy to repair / fix
@@traum1693yea idk ab people complaining about “arch breaking all the time” and you needing to spend countless hours fixing. 95% it breaks cause of me (doing partial upgrades or not upgrading in a while, or messing up a config file), and Id rather fix that, which is generally pretty simple than stand for hours wondering why I can’t follow a tutorial on something because my GUI is lacking a button
but then again this might be js because of my workflow/necessities
how can someone enjoy windows 11!? how much did they pay you!!
It is normal for rolling releases to break.
Operating systems made for production would not break. Like Red Hat Enterprise or Debian stable.
Genuine question, why do people use Linux or even have a graphics card on their Linux machine unless they do machine learning?
Same reason they use any OS. It makes their computer do stuff. Linux works.
@@TechDregs this response is lacking
@@hemgreen9984 It suits the question.
@@TechDregs why would someone use Linux other than machine learning when everything else can be done easier and better on mainstream OS?
Play video games, duh. I think windows is full of corpo bullshit and I hate using it.
Side Note: Cinnamon (mint's de) does have wayland support, and all what you have to do is choose it in the login manager
Sort of. It's still an experimental feature, and at the time of recording this, the devs still stressed that it was "alpha" and to expect problems.
I just like Nobara because it came installed with gaming stuff
I actually liked it (especially the update/GUI software manager). My only real worry is that it's handled by like only one guy, and what if he get's bored of doing it? So, back to Fedora, since I didn't need most of the tweaks.
I really wish they would put out a XFCE version of Nobara. Gnome is unusable since version 3 and KDE is bloated and unreliable since version 4
@@TechDregs In that case I'd probably just move over to Fedora. I'm not too sure how much the tweaks of Nobara help, it's just nice to know that I barely have to set up stuff if I want to play games
@@TechDregs What you said is exactly why I am thinking of jumping to Bazzite. At least Bazzite is maintained by over 70 people. But I am too damn lazy to distro hop right now. I got Nobara set up with modded games (which is annoying to do in Linux), EmulationStation and Kodi and man I cannot be bothered, especially if Bazzite ends up sucking LOL
@@TechDregs I believe he has a team to help him nowdays, if I remember correctly reading in his discord. Also he's a redhat employee so doubt he will stop using linux anytime soon. Tho I do agree with the sentiment of using distros you know will be around in 10 years. Love nobara, will probably use that if I ever have to reinstall my fedora installation.
NixOS is peak. People rag on it for having an evil learning curve, but so far I've been having a good time on it. Being able to have a stable distro AND be rolling release at the same time with literally zero dependency issues is insane.
I too am a nixos "enjoyer" with arch on my laptop
enjoy maintaining your own distro and all the drama within the "community"
@poni-sz2pm I don't know anything about the drama and will keep it that way.
stable and rolling: doesnt dual boot some stable and rolling distro will give you same but without this fancy setup and with classic fhs. and one file config doenst convince me for easy reinstall. how often do you want to reinstall anyway?
Zypper is actually goated, your broadband connection is just trash.
FTTP symmetric one gig trash confirmed.
@@TechDregsrookie mistake, you need 5 independent 25Mb connections, and run several instances of zypper sumulatiously to enable zypper's parallel download feature.
Ok actual LOL.
@@MikePerremanThis guy zyppers. It’s my main irritant when dailying openSUSE.
@@shoryuag I am thinking about using Opensuse can you give me details about your experience and should I use it as my daily os
Nixos... didn't mentioned 😢?
- It's stable than debian, has
- newer&more packages than arch,
- bragging rights as arch
- dorkier than arch
You forgot to mention how it’s a Linux distro that… can’t run… Linux executables… out of the box.
To be clear, I’m also a nixos user lmao
@@AnnoyingRains what do you mean? i can run linux executable... without any issues...
I edged to the void mascot
Debian user here, are there really these new nvidia drivers already or are you guys just joking around :D!
.... guys?
yep there are. there is a reason why debian is stable.
Truly, BSD is the future
NixOs unstable users getting stability and newest packages. Will not look anywhere else for my distro hopping. Hard to start, hard to master, but when you get everything running you need, haven't been on a stabler linux distro.
I distro hop all the time. I've distro hopped about 600 times if I remember correctly, between NixOS, NixOS, NixOS, ..., and NixOS.
@@angeldude101 it's hard being a bot.
@@Liperium Did you think _I_ was a bot? (Well you're not the first to think that. 🤣)
My comment was more supposed to be a joke about how NixOS replaces distro hopping with config hopping, with every generation being considered as effectively a separate distro. I've reinstalled my system before, but I make sure to always preserve my generation number.
@@angeldude101 🤣🤣🤣
My only complaints with Nix so far is the lack of secure boot support on GRUB (SystemD-Boot looks like ass), Waydroid third party libraries (like libhoudini) being a bit of a pain to install, DaVinci Resolve being broken right now (no shortcut and ROCM support is busted), and there being no package for Maya or Mudbox (which have Linux ports and at least one of them is on the AUR).
The flake system and such is initially hard to wrap your mind around, but it's worth the learning curve.
Pop OS is mostly plug n play, has a mac style layout and works with valves proton layer for games. Its important to have an option for people who despise the terminal and want as little to do with it as possible
I switched to Arch for the very first time a few weeks ago. Ngl, so far you're right, configuring it is so bad that my system isn't even finished yet. But i LOVE IT!
As you said, it's a hobby of mine to just sit there and configure away. Even with Ubuntu and any other Distro i've used, i always configured and changed my desktops constantly and when i was done used it for a week and then started changing it entirely. Arch is perfect, it's so fun to configure stuff.
I will keep windows installed for the longest time because there's a lot of windows only software I use that doesn't run well under wine (substance painter)
This pretty much summarizes the experience you have when you research which Linux distro you should use.
imo i feel like people should pick one of these four distros according to their needs:
- Fedora (easy, stable, gets very recent updates, but sells your data to advertisers)
- Debian (easy, stable, gets very old updates, and does not sell your data to advertisers)
- Arch (hard, only unstable if skill issue, gets the most recent updates, and does not sell your data to advertisers)
- NixOS (hard-ish, stable, gets very recent updates, and doesnt sell your data to advertisers... i think?) (bonus: majority of the OS is configured by one single file, which gives it convenience, it also has the largest amount of packages out of these four)
What's my favorite? Definitely Arch because it doesn't track you like fedora does, but I would definitely choose Fedora as the second best since it's technically more stable than Arch while also boasting the same capabilities.
I never understood why people say arch is hard. Once i got past the initial install step which is just pasting commands from the wiki into the terminal (there are even gui installers for that now) it became as easy as ubuntu/fedora except instead of typing apt-get and dnf i type pacman or yay instead.
Now i use nixos, while it has some obvious benefits and i don't think i can use a regular linux distro again,
the documentation has been consistently horrible and unfriendly so i would say it is many times harder than arch linux.
what on earth do you mean "fedora sells your data" are you a schitzo?
Jokes aside, everyone is trying to resolve their cognitive dissonance. Everyone wants to believe they chose the "best". People need to learn to not base their self worth on the idea that they are always choose the "best". Is my distro "the best"? Honestly, IDGAF if it's the best or if someone thinks it sucks. It does what I need it to do. It doesn't give me more hassle than I'm willing to tolerate. It's good enough. If that changes, I will likely switch to another.
That's the nice thing about Linux, though. If I don't like this one, I can bail out and try another. In fact, when I encounter a "which distro" thread, I tell them, "Just try them all and see which one fits you. It costs you nothing but time." It might even help you recognize what you need from a distribution.
Also, Windows sucks. It's objectively the worst. It's better to give up a few games with root-kits than to allow Microsoft the ability to spy on you and not give you full control of your PC.
Linux = Time Waster if you want Windows stuff
A friend of mine, who has been in tech for years, but has always stuck to Windows as his primary OS, finally switched to Linux a while ago. His verdict was "I can't believe I didn't switch sooner"
the pronunciation of gnu is under a gnu license so im free to modify it how ever i like
well time to go back to windows 7 my beloved.
Fedora is the GOAT. I don't give a shit about RHEL. It's just the older, more stable version of Fedora for enterprise users.
I guess only TempleOS remains...
i'm literally shaking in anger right now. i dont think you realize how much this is making me simmer right now, there is literally nothing i can do to express how much anger this video has built inside of me, this one piece of media was capable to touch an inner demon i never knew i had.
keep it up with the tech videos! i love watching your content, you're super entertaining
thats it, thats all the which distro is better debates settled, we can finally be productive
Sir, it's German and Swamp German. Source: Swamp Germans.
Me and my other roommate running MINIX 3 doing the skeleton in the ocean meme (he installed it and I watched. It counts right?).
It counts if you held his hand during the process.
Nice bro, you got the rocket raccoon OS (Intel ME)
Sad to see universal blue /bluefin wasnt mentioned, it being basically just configurations via oci images, gives you all the benefit of it being maintained and getting all of the fedora updates every week, while giving you actual sane defaults plus the stability and the ease of use with atomic desktops
I use Arch btw
I've been using mint for several months now and so far the only problems I've had are ones I created myself, which is how I like it. And more than I can say for my Windows experience. Of course I used Windows for much longer, so there's plenty of time for mint to let me down.
Good video, but stop telling me I'm not German. I AM GERMAN and used openSuse in a VM on top of Arch Linux and broke it today. And every distro has it's downsides, but it is better than windows or that stupid mac os.
Let's agree that Android is the best Linux distribution. It's open-source, stable, and up-to-date at the same time. It's lightweight and doesn't try to look like Windows
I don't actually understand the comments (not just here) about arch linux being terrible for real-world use. I've been using arch (btw) as my daily drive for about 7 years now and it's been stable for me. I pacman -Syyu about once a week. I can't say I've never had anything break on me, of course there have been those moments, but I don't know anyone who uses any other distro that hasn't had things break once in a while. Also, isn't SteamOS 3.0 and later based on arch? Edit: to be clear, i use arch for work (i'm fortunate my job gives us lots of freedom to use the tools of our choice) as well as personal use. I also don't have any problem with windows or macOS. it's good to know them all.
When I switched to Arch I expected to break it in a week then try another distro. It's been five months and I'm still waiting... I feel betrayed by all the false advertisement 😢
You're vastly overestimating most peoples' willingness to update every week.
try not updating your arch setup for 3 months and see what happens
@@saki7804 I did that on a spare laptop and nothing special happened aside from the update taking very long... What fun problems did I miss ? 😢
@@quaesitrix881 when i did the same thing, it wouldn't let me update because of some certificate/key bs and i just gave up. it seems they recently fixed this though by always updating the keyring.
As an Arch user I'm offended and flattered at the same time. The manjaro joke was hilarious by the way.
linux sucks
Wait until he discovers free BSD
Come home, OpenBSD is waiting
It's why I currently have 3 linuxes installed and boot into each for different goals.
even if it's a joke wtf do you use instead 😭
gnu hurd
nothing you use the hit os door, not windows, door.
9front
bsd
use pure vanilla unix
the arch community wants to know your location
do you accept?
Yes Yes
my debian is good >:|
if you dont like update or dont need it yes but if not then no
@@xgui4-studios Well honestly considering the momentum behind Linux desktop, Debian 13 with GNOME 48 and KDE Plasma 6.3 might be honestly a good distro for a long time.
VRR, VR, HDR and explicit sync and what more do you need from a desktop really.
@@Doctor_Glados gnome 🤢🤮
Software is way more important than operating systems. People who focus 95% of their computer time on the OS itself, instead of focusing on software clearly have no life.
1:55 there is no such term as 'Desktop Manager' in the GNU/Linux world. There is 'Window Manager', 'Display Manager's etc. The term you meant to say was 'Desktop Environment'.
I'm using Fedora because turns out, enterprisy stuff is where the developers lock in to make something that's stable and nice to use. This is also why the Windows installation I'm dualbooting it with and where I spend most of my time especially when I'm doing something useful is Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021
funny that i got this video in my feed basically after throwing a massive fit about not getting my stuff to just work on linux mint
everytime i keep hearing oh linux is so easy to use now yada yada, then i try to set up something simple, next thing i know im 6hours into 60 different turorials with 20 terminals open with sudos and paths and apt gets everywhere
and this "super simple" thing that works on all the tutorials suddenly dont work for me
As an Arch user (btw), I love working and praying at the same time, hoping that I can finish my work before something breaks
But I did... I did install Slackware from a ton of floppies and it was my main distro for years. Is it time for my meds yet nurse?
I wasn't early enough apparently ... my analogous experience was installing Debian from about 15 CDs I burned at a local library
We all need more Windows in our lives. Zero headaches or security breaches. Most secure OS
Finally, the truth.
I feel like the only one that would be best for me is my own operating system. Sure it would take a while but i might learn a lot about computers and everything under the hood.
Linux Mint is probably the only distro which should help most people who are coming from Windows. Uses less memory, most things work, no bloatware(like ubuntu).
Stay away from source distros like fedora, debian, arch. Those require you to figure out much using command line and not for beginners.
Fedora, Debian & Arch are not source distros they favourably ship binaries
0:45 I feel closer to you now.
bro is the definition of having no clue of what they're talking about.
There are only two kinds of distros: The ones people complain about, and the ones nobody uses.
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact "World of Linux," or as I refer to it, "Linux Fantasy XIV." Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather a role-playing game around which those with no accomplishments can desperately form some sort of identity. You start off with your OS in an incomplete state, then you perform easily searchable, tedious manual quests trying to piece it together into something that is barely functional for a small set of tasks. Other Linux players congratulate you on playing the game and on your level progression, giving you a real sense of accomplishment for your virtual progress.
If you thought you were getting a real OS, you just don't understand Linux.
Watching this while eating is probably my best decision ever.
Love the arch comments...and then he added gentoo which is what I was thinking!
Wtf why is there a screenshot of the blockland fourms
The hero we didn't ask for but needed
I think OpenSUSE has the least corpo rot of the big 3 corpo distros. Zypper is indeed slow but I can confirm that Tumbleweed is one of the more stable rolling release distros. It's a happy medium for me personally. I used to distro hop a lot but now I think I've finally found something that fits my use case.
Real talk: I wanted to run OpenSUSE and not Fedora, but I ran into problems. One thing is that they sometimes rename packages slightly, and it was causing dependencies to break and I'd have to manually fix it. But I liked YAST after I figured out what to do with it, and I think the slowroll distro is neat.
@@TechDregs I haven't had dependency breakages necessarily but yeah, the package names are weird. I did end up having to install the Flatpak of OBS and Pulseeffects because the former is outdated and Zypper complained about potential breakages for the latter. Maybe I ought to try Slowroll or change the mirrors somehow on my existing installation since I'm using it on a 2011 HP 8200 Elite SFF and I don't touch it every day. I have even gone over a week without updating once. It timed out at first but I refreshed the mirrors and then it updated fine. Manjaro is known to break because it holds packages back the way it does but I guess mileage varies with Tumbleweed. OpenSUSE can also be finicky with some hardware whereas Fedora isn't but I've had good compatibility with both on older and newer hardware. In any case, I love the video.
True, I spent a lot of time troubleshooting on arch, but tbh, once that mandatory 1 month period is through, it just works. Been running my desktop for 5 years now without any major issues. I once had to revert a faulty mesa package that crashed x11, but overall it's great. Imo, over the years, I think the most unstable part of arch is getting started. Lots of stuff in the beginning doesn't work or is borked in some funny way and it can also be irritating as heck, but I find that after that's done with, it's pretty chill. I tried using debian based systems, but they are just plain annoying. Too little user freedom, meh package managers and waaaay too much jank. Like, with arch, when you got it down, it works like a charm. But while debian, doesn't have major issues, it has a shitton of irritating bugs and quirks that overtime make you go insane. So, I'll take my 8hr troubleshooting session thank you.