The FUTO Keyboard is excellent
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- Опубликовано: 20 июл 2024
- A brief first impression review of FUTO Keyboard (currently appears to only be available for Android), which promises not to collect your data or even need to connect to the internet for speech to text. A far cry from Microsoft Swiftkey now embedding Copilot!
So far, it's been excellent and seems to deliver on all of its promises.
Also, hey @rossmanngroup, let me pay you. LOL. None of the payments seem to work, either through the app or via the website.
I have no affiliation and have had no contact with FUTO, nor have I received or expect to receive any compensation or consideration for this video.
keyboard.futo.org/
=== Timestamps ===
0:00 Introduction
0:35 Swiftkey/Copilot/Heliboard
1:53 FUTO Keyboard typing demo
3:35 Offline voice to text
5:23 Keyboard options
6:00 Payment is currently broken
7:23 Conclusion 
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I figured out the issue with the web payment. The website error said it couldn't generate the payment request, but the issue was the email address I used. Apparently, their payment system didn't like my email alias (e.g. name+futokeyboard@email.com). Possibly it's just something where it doesn't allow non-alphanumeric characters or something, but doesn't generate an error on the email input field... it just breaks when they try to generate the payment.
Using a non-aliased email did work on their website, but the in-app system still doesn't work. Further, when I got the activation email, the button to activate the app didn't work. I checked in the app, but didn't see anywhere to put the key in... you click the "I already paid" button a couple of times and then it just says thanks for using the paid version.
At any rate, I was finally able to give them my $5. :-D
I had the exact same issue with their payment system when using Grayjay.
Thanks, you brought this bug to light for us, we're working on getting it fixed!
@@N00byEdge I hope you can fix it in mobile app so I can pay with all the google play credit I have! PS: PLEASE add a keyboard width option for phones with wider screens like folding phones? It would be great if the keys went all the way to the screen edges
They even made it difficult to pay them. One of the rare examples that opposes the dark patterns of the internet 😂😂
@@N00byEdgeios please
I wrote a single character wrong in "futo keyboard" and now I have a new research material about human biology to study.
I accidentally pressed an unknown key combination and "futo keyboard" generated the entire Akashic records. Sadly my PC only had about five terabytes of disk space but I got what I could.
Did you mistype one of the letters as "a"?
Me too...
haha...
I mistyped it as
"Auto keyboard", and what I got were basically autoclickers but for kb keys. Pretty cool!
@@lmnkthey did an "a" too, only at another position
When you're done researching remember to support our rights in real life
@@niamhleeson3522 bait
Thank you for the kind words! All feedback will be taken into consideration... and we'll work out the issues with the payment system!
One request please, the back button, when long pressed could there be an option for that to delete the entire word, not just a character.
My summary after reading through the comments here: the biggest issue for a lot of people seems to be multilanguage support. Several have felt the swipe input is quite inaccurate. And multiple people missed the height/offset adjustment that's under all the themes; maybe that could be broken out into "layout" or something, just so it's more obvious. My opinion hasn't changed in the days I've been using it; it's great. I'd only add an option to auto-space after punctuation. Thank you!
iOS please
Any ios plans?
I met very few open source keyboards with Chinese(with proper implementation - none), can it be implemented here, please?
Also, could you add button (instead of emoji button) to fast switch languages? Awesome and nice to use keyboard, thanks Louis, finally found something that is comparable to gboard. With features mentioned above this keyboard would be the best choice ever.
bro you should toss lou's face on the thumbnail and make the big text caption "LET ME PAY YOU" lol
this man thumbs
Doesn’t it allow you to pay for it already?
No, the donate button doesnt work in the latest release :/@@OctagonalSquare
😂
I downloaded the FUTA keyboard and it looks weird.
That's a disgusting comment 🤢
That's the wrong keyboard. Could be very right for at least someone though.
@@Scott_Stone Hahaha that's true; I'd be happy with the FUTA kb hahaha
I didn't know you can make your digital keyboard sticky...
i downloaded it yesterday and it's surprising how good it is right away, I think it only "lacks" the ability to move the cursor by long-pressing of the spacebar but they also got the edit mode so it's not a big deal. I can't wait for the custom themes to be available
But it actually does move the cursor when pressing on the spacebar...
@@anderlopez6699 you're right!!! thank you so much. I was used to doing a long press and then moving but this is way quicker I never tried to just start moving, well it officially has everything I could ask for, except for shortcuts but that's even less important
You cannot adjust the size??? At least i could not find the Option ..
@@XA--pb9ni you can cofigure the height of the keyboard on the "Theme" section, hope that's what you're looking for
Holy shit.. I missed that cause i did not look @ the themes ..thx so much, deinstalling swiftkey right now
I gotta say the "SwiftKey is dead" drew my attention, I just realized SwiftKey also has the "drag from delete key" function, but apparently Futo's works better.
This is the AOSP keyboard fork that I was waiting for: fully offline, with support of Material You and pretty basic for the essential needs.
Actually, I'm using the LineageOS default keyboard that uses the Material You theme and I expect that FUTO keyboard get the recognition that deserves.
How does it compare to Openboard, also an AOSP foss privacy keyboard?
Openboard is old, last release was 2 years ago. Does it is even still developed? @@gn0s1s
Barely 30 seconds in and I've already got it installed! I was looking for a privacy focused keyboard for ages!
Yea right! Did the same
Is this a joke? How can a keyboard be not private? What do they have like keyloggers in there? It just sounds so bizarre
@@turolretar Not a joke, and you answered your own question. A lot of keyboards such as Gboard and Swiftkey collect data such what you type, how much you type, voice to text information, autocorrect predictions based on what you regularly type. Google for example does not divulge what it's used for (Though it's likely used to train AI). Even though I'm not doing anything illegal, I'd rather not have what I type sent to some server where they can do whatever they want with it.
Agreed! @@elektra81516
@@turolretar quite literally
The fact than you can add local offline AI models oprimized for mobile just by importing file is amazing. Installed.
I was swiftkey user until microsoft forced copilot. Same about edge on mobile.
What was the difference between Swiftkey and Gboard? Also yeah it can really be that simple. Shows just how much we are getting fucked by corporations.
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 I never used gboard but the toolbox swiftkey provided was great until Copilot invaded the app.
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566SwiftKey uses a learned heat map matching your intended/autocorrected words to map your actual inputs with your intended inputs. Maybe your bumper case is stopping you from reaching Q and P super consistently or your finger wanders a bit too far to the right so you hit D instead of S. Over time, Q and P will grow in size until the far edges of W and O are actually Q and P, and the left side of D will register as an S. It fixes awkward grips, cases, or small/large screens' effect on your typing.
Gboard just has big time spyware informing autocorrect as to your intended next word.
well this is what I miss from swiftkey, it seems that I will stick with it for a little longer but as soon as the app is more mature and developed i will try again.
I'm using SwiftKey and loving it
Swipe typing entirely depends on you tapping the correct word when it guesses incorrectly to learn. After you do that for a bit, it's pretty much spot on every time.
That's really good info for how it works. Thanks!
I didn't know that! hopefully it will eventually be usable, even if it isn't now
actually it might never be usable since the correct word isn't even in the list more than half the time so far
@@agsbxnskqbwjakqif it's good, swipe typing is better with one hand and/or without looking
I've been pretty annoyed with the swipe typing so far. It messes up short words often and gives random acronyms instead. Google's swipe keyboard is so much better.
Currently other languages are kinda broken, symbols not working properly, app crashing, so I'll stick to Swiftkey and Gboard for the time being, but I'm very interested, as it works perfectly in English
Just downloaded it. Saw the huge buttons. Immediately uninstalled the Google keyboard I was using till now. Finally. Amazing.
I don't even know why the algorithm recommended your video to me but this is exactly what I was looking for in the past. I just stopped searching for keyboard alternatives and settled for Swift Key a long time ago. I will now immediately try FUTO and am excited about the possibility of a always offline keyboard. Well made video, good info. Thanks!
Just installed and typing this comment with FUTO now. Working great!
Using the Futo keyboard now and I LOVE it already in the 5 minutes that I've used it for. Thanks for telling me about this awesome thing.
I bougt it 3 times for all my devices. The voice input works amazingly well. Finally the alternative I was longing for so long 🤩
I'm on graphene os and I've just lived without voice input to preserve my privacy. This has offline voice input so I'm back in business! Thanks for promoting this!
I was searching for a privacy oriented keyboard a while back and was upset i couldn't find a decent one, I'm so glad your video popped up in my recommended feed. I just installed it and was surprised by how simple yet functional it already is, it's great! The only thing I'm missing from Gboard is the built-in translator.
I'm enjoying it so far. Very intuitive to use and no issues yet. "Swiping" is the only word it has had trouble with so far for me
Yes it is. Is so amazing that I need this for my Desktop PC (for any Linux Distro) as a virtual keyboard and to use the voice input.
Just downloaded. We'll see if it ends up replacing Swift Key long-term. Thanks for making a video about it!
The settings UI is a bit unpolished but so far this is amazing work and way better than Swiftkey. You even get a local ML model which handles suggestions and everything feels smooth and advanced. It's great.
Thanks for the review. It seems to have everything I need. Installed, will try and pay immediately should I decide to keep it, which seems likely. All the power to Louis!
Amazing find, thank you for finding this, thank the algorithm for bringing you to my feed, new subscriber for you!
Looks really good. I like all of the customization options. I really like that it all works locally. My favourite keyboard of all-time is the BlackBerry 10 virtual keyboard. I loved the way you could flick up directly from the keyboard. Miss that thing.
Just instealled it and used it. Instantly love it.
After the video I saw who the keyboard was made by. Rossman has been slowly earning my trust the last few years, so I installed it and I'm trying it right now.
If I still like it by the end of the week, I'm gonna buy it.
Wow! This keyboard looks absolutely incredible. I love it. ❤
Thanks a lot for the demo! I'm a long-time SwiftKey user who is more and more worried about its privacy as well, and this keyboard is an alternative in a long time that feels really great from my first impression! I'll keep using it for the coming days/weeks and see if it holds up. If it does, I'm happy to pay as well.
Just bought this. It's incredible
THanks a lot, had few happy months with HeliBoard and this comes at the right moment, wish I could add voice for Spanish, this might be my new main keyboard so I´ll give it a try
1:40 and then there are psychos like me who use florisboard. it has no:
- autocorrect
- text predictions
- emoji serch
- stickers
- pretty much nothing fancy, it's like a computer keyboard in that sense
what it DOES have however is what keeps me on it and i dont intend to switch to anything else; it's got an insane level of customisation over how it functions:
- select all, copy, cut, cursor nudge left/right, paste, clear clipboard, clipboard button shortcuts
- lets you change a lot of stuff down to a milisecond or a pixel
- heigh offset for when i feel like using gestures instead of 3 button nav bar, that way i keep all the keys at the same height and retain all my muscle memory for typing fast (around 85wpm)
- gesture shortcuts that work more precisely than other keyboards; moving the cursor while holding space can jump to characters, whole words, you can change the sensitivity on that (i find gboard to be annoyingly unresponsive), then theres swipe to delete which can delete whole words, letters, characters, whatever, change sensitivity of both of those down to how fast you swipe... (also annoyingly unresponsive on gboard)
- i somehow forgot to mention undo and redo buttons in the smart bar how silly of me
- ofc theres a backup and restore for settings, else it would be hell to set it up every time lol
I'm using Swifkey myself, though have FUTO as my replacment for voice dictation. Love that combo!
i would use it but you missed me at "no spellcheck"
Lmao same. I've gotten so much accustomed to the absence of the most basic of features that I now don't need them. Florisboard and FUTO Keyboard FWT
1. SwiftKey and FUTO have almost everything there, including personal tuning, except I think only FUTO has undo/redo, and don't think they do full customization for backswipe.
2. You clearly need autocorrect and spellchecker.
* I
* sense
* random lack of capitalisation
And not that autocorrect on SwiftKey would help you, but you spelled the wrong it's/its every time
I also use Florisboard it works great besides the rare crashes. The only thing that's missing from Gboard is the emoji search... if FUTO keyboard could do that (which is in their roadmap), then I'm sold
thank you for making this video SPECIFICALLY for me lmfao
i'm exactly in same situation as you, used swiftkey from early days and its been sad to see it go down in grasps of microsoft
i tried out FUTO and just the fact that you can manually maintain your models and dictionaries was already a hard hands down sell for me, lets see how it fares with time!
Is Louis working on an privacy-oriented Android spin? I'd be down for that! The dude definitely has earned my (out) respect and trust over these many years.
Dude is not a developer. He's not even a good dude. He's a clock that tells the time right twice a day and both times it's about right to repair.
The rest of his opinions are awful and he tries to shove them down your throat with the right to repair stuff.
@@BeefIngotWhat opinions are awful?
@IceBlueLugia In essence his opinions boil down to pretending that only people of his demographics have problems.
He does not believe systemic racism exists (apart from agaisnt white/Asian men.... which just makes no sense), he doesn't believe tax dollars should go to helping anyone but himself, he doesn't believe in any social services at all, for reasons that I think from his other views seem pretty obvious.
He's the epitome of "I've got mine"
@@IceBlueLugia don't expect to get a citation out of slanderous lazy people!
@@BeefIngot That's gonna be a hard disagree with you, bud. I have followed Louis off and on for years now, and he's been proven right on just about everything. Don't be salty that he's complaining *_and_* getting shit done, as opposed to most of the other content creators, who just complain politely for morality points but then never actually do anything of substance about the issues.
It's interesting how how the ones who actually accomplish things are the ones who get the most attacks, slander, and libel, as if they're the enemy. It's a societal mental illness! It has to be!
OMG I've been looking for SwiftKey replacement for a while now. Will try this one.
Downloaded it as soon as it was announced. Currently replying using it. I was also a user of swift. One time it was soooo good at predicting texts that I used to type just a few words and write the whole sentences but after few updates it deteriorated significantly and i learned it was recording everything I was typing (FOREVER!) which led me to an an open source option.
Excited to try it out. Listened to Louis talking about it too.
Omg I was using one called OpenBoard for years for this same reason but the maintainer abandoned it and the new one is struggling to handle the issues last I looked. So, I'm definitely trying this one!
I stuck with OpenBoard because it was the only keyboard that met my specific needs. FUTO not only checks all those other boxes for me, but gets me off of Google voice transcription and I can have emojis again! Loving it so far, even in its alpha state!
just installed it, looks nice!
honestly the backspace swiping is pretty neat, more keyboards should have it
Thanks for showing it, I may wanna try it myself
Cool! Will try it out. Watching from the Philippines.
Main reason I use Swift is because it detects which language I am currently using, and I don't have to change it in the settings, do you think this is possible in Futo??
It seems that FUTO keyboard haves the same handicap than AOSP keyboard and/or GBoard, which is tied to the preset language (in the case of AOSP keyboard and/or GBoard, is usually the default localization of the OS). The main advantage is the avariability of the offline dictionary of words that holds in their one hundred megs.
As an AOSP enjoyer, I see as a close alternative to the AOSP keyboard that haves the enhancements for Material You themes for a smoother experience from Android 12 and beyond (LineageOS enabled the Material You theme in the AOSP keyboard).
They have multilingual input models available! Pretty limited support for the time being but they're working on expanding it.
Yes you can just add a second language and the autosuggestions and autocorrect will switch automatically to the language you're typing in , like gboard
I tried typing a phrase in Spanish and it started giving me suggestions in Spanish
@@voinea12wait really? It doesn't work in my case (English and Indonesian), so I have to switch language manually.
One of my favourite features with this is the voice typing. It add punctuation! Google voice typing as well as a few others just do run on sentences and wont add punctuation unless you specifically say "comma", "period", "question mark" and things like that.
Regarding the payment not working for you: Aren't you offline?
Pretty sure the error message would have been different. I think it fails way before it even attempts anything since at the very least the Google play payment popup should show up. That's the place where the offline error should be.
I was offline for the demo in this video, but I had already tested everything prior to that. It doesn't work online or offline... same error message.
@@TechDregs just checked the payment page, it now works.
Amazing video!
this deserves more attention ❤
Swiftkeyer for like 10 years here. I tried futo's, but press-and-hold specials and a better Dvorak layout keep me with Swiftkey for now.
What I want to know is
How do I use the json from Microsoft to make a dictionary that the futo keyboard can understand?
Someone help me please.
Thank you so much, was swift keyboard fan too, but I don’t like co pilot. Just installed and it is so responsive. Love it and will definitely buy it, because it is offline 🙏😎
Is there an option to have 2 languages at the same time like on gboard? I usually have English and Polish so that I can swipe type anything in both languages or even both at The same time
Unfortunately no. I'm also looking for that feature myself (English - Indonesian in my case). Currently Futo doesn't have that feature, so you have to switch languages manually
Bummer. I need Polish and English too. Long forgotten Spanish to be needing it, even though it's one of the major languages of the world.
awww, that's the worst part about it. wish they'll implement it in the future. it's one of the few things that make me use gboard (with adguard blocking the internet access) more often
As of today, you can choose multiple languages. I currently have English and Spanish
@@franciscodomenech1796 but no multi-language as in using both language without having to manually switch. Its a hassle having to switch language manually. I'm using Heliboard rn and while its rough, it do have multi-language support (in my case English and Indonesian)
I use Futo absolutely love it. It gets better over time as you use it. Could just be me getting more used to it, but it works great and the speech to text is my favorite feature. My only complaint is sometimes i use swipe when i type with one hand, and the suggestions are more often wrong compared to default android. Every other feature is better though!
Using it since its announcement. It still needs to improve multilingual support (automatic recognition and switching) and a few small aesthetic tweaks, but overall it's solid.
Just what I needed
Got it since 2 days. All good so far 😀
This is absolutely great.
It works quite well this was very slopeppy written (you can see how bad I wrote by the word it couldn't correct).
I am impressed.
Perfect keyboard I'm using it right now
My guess is, of is brought out of alpha and beta into an official version, the payment part will also work.
I'm using it now.
Thanks man this is great
Couldn't come at a better time. Copilot is a real threat, Simple got sold to an ad farm and Fleksy isn't going anywhere fast. The FUTO keyboard feels real good!
This keyboard is what I have wanted for so so so long. They use the same long-press symbol layout as gboard which has been my favorite for that and the voice typing is amazing! It is faster than google voice typing and just as convenient as in gboard. My only issue is that the haptic feedback doesn't feel quite right, being more of a buzz vs a tapping feeling, but I may just not be getting the settings set up right.
currently I'm waiting on a way to migrate my clipboard and personal dictionary over from gboard, because I cannot be bothered to move all of that over manually
Downloaded. 😁
Exact same here, swapped over from SwiftKey and no regrets so far. I always liked the idea of voice input but avoided it because I really don't like the idea of all that data being uploaded to Microsoft / Google / Whoever. Now I don't have to worry about it, can just do it locally on my phone. Hurray!
Long press to delete by word and smaller font size are the only options I want that are missing
I'm using FUTO with Microsoft Swiftkey, shockingly enough. I love its voice dictation!
Yeah, it's not quite as good as Copilot's voice input key (which can't be used for normal typing because MS are a barrel of macaques), but it's surprisingly adept. I'm rocking the same combo myself, as terrible as SwiftKey is.
@@SolarScion Interestingly, if ya hold down the comma and choose said dictation method we're talking about, works quite nicely! You may need to turn off Google Voice Input first...
I notice on the keyboard my phone came with that it keeps autocorrecting to misspelled words even. Or just sees my button inputs wrong.
Might try this
Well, I also finally installed it. Really nice.
Thanks, the only thing I was missing from my phone's stock samsung kb was the symbols on keys - your video showed me where the setting is. I already preferred FUTO and now I'm not compromising on anything.
(if anyone needs to know, it's in themes, scroll all the way to the bottom, as seen here 5:47. Weird place for it imo, it should be in typing prefs)
i installed it and will be using it for a while, but i couldn't find a resize option. i don't like my keyboards taking half of the screen, i need to scale it down [edit] nevermind, found it scrolling below all the themes
I was using Yandex but I'm giving futo a try typing this comment. It seems a little sluggish but still very usable. Thanks for the recommendation
I'm typing on Google Keyboard but thank the RUclips Algorithm for recommending me this video. Instantly sold on this FUTO keyboard!
Can you import your SwiftKey words (from the add to dictionary feature) to FUTO Keyboard?
I've got years of manually added words that I'd rather not have to do again.
Thank you for this.
I used heliboard as a good alternative, enjoyed it,gonna try futo now
I'm still using HeliBoard because it has more customizability. On Futo I can't customize the layout to what I'm used to and I don't want to re-learn the exact button positions.
I 110% support what they're doing, and it's about time someone used an ML prediction engine, which should have been the first use case for LLMs. But I wouldn't rep it too hard at this point. I used it yesterday and went straight back to SwiftKey (a keyboard I loathe), for three+ very important UX reasons.
~~Yes, FUTO has big edit controls, but you have to toggle a button at the top and scroll to the end of a top action bar to get to it. TO MOVE THE CURSOR~~
Okay, the placement is still terrible, but apparently touch and slide on spacebar (instead of hold and slide) works for cursor adjustments. Thanks for clarification, person in comments.
-relevant to needing to edit: It doesn't really understand when you type two short words together and miss the space bar (which you have to hit a lot more than SwiftKey), so it just results in a mangled, misspelled aglutinated mess. Same thing with a single word with a single stray character at the end.
* The swipe backspace just deletes a random amount of characters, making it useless. Long hold to delete last word in SwiftKey is absolutely vital to my typing.
* The dictionary still won't suggest the word that I have actually typed (with a single character error), but suggests two others that are less orthographically similar. SwiftKey itself is also terrible about just not having thousands of basic vocab words, and that's the main reason I hate it with a burning passion, despite using it right now.
I switched back and turned up the ML autocorrect bias, which seems to help a lot with typing. But the backswipe is still useless, and the spacebar slide needs an acceleration curve. SwiftKey was definitely too fast to use accurately, but slide doesn't let you change rows with its lower sensitivity, and it's painfully slow, requiring lifting off and re-sliding to get to another word.
Okay, it looks like the toggle action bar is changing location of icons according to usage, except that the clipboard is still at the end despite heavy usage. Ther icons are also confusing, with *Paste* and *clipboard* sharing the same icon, and edit being ambiguous. Skeumorphic design, please! Icons are ugly and bad, but understandable for a pre-alpha.
it's insane to me and criminal that gboard
still has the best swipe type in the business
It's awesome! The only things I wish it had were the option for arrow keys and an intext translator into another language.
I am using AnySoft Keyboard for a while. It looks like it's foss and it has decent support of languages (it is crutial for a keyboard). Also I like the multiple layouts of symbols and an ability to open a numpad in any context.
No fancy features like swiping or voice type. But I'm an old-school mobile user enough, so I don't miss them. 😂
I can confirm it works on my one plus open while folded open!
thanks, very useful
Is there any reason to switch to this if I've already got GBoard behind a firewall?
I can't import the multilingual model for it, the import just does nothing. FUTO Voice input, a separate app, already comes with this model, and it works great, but FUTO keyboard doesn't want to use it for some reason.
Really hope they add japanese and korean soon,would love to switch to it
Been using this keyboard for a few days. It's definitely not as good for me. Glad to hear it's working well for other folks
Instantly uninstalled MS Swiftkey after installing Futo and trying it for 2 minutes. Really good.
for me the only issue with switching to a different keyboard is getting used to typing on it, but I like this so I'll use it untill I can type really fast again.
One thing i hate with the default keyboard I have, is that if I want word suggestions, I have to turn on that it replaces the words I type with the "correct" one.
With the FUTO one, you can disable the auto-correct but still keep the suggestions.
That's more than enough for me to immediately switch over :)
One thing I like is you can put the courser controls above the keyboard.
I works great and it feels fantastic almost like the Windows Phone 10 Keyboard, which was one of the best ones.
Does it have a way to make it bilingual bc I usually have SwiftKey on the Swedish keyboard but I write I'm both English and Swedish without changing the keyboard, is it possible?
I think that's one of the most requested features from everyone outside the US, I'm sure they will add that.
Seems to work pretty well except for when swiping. May need some time to learn. Installed it pretty much immediately upon seeing this video lol
It is an incredible keyboard and will only get better with time.
Looking forward to using it too with Japanese input. That's the reason I still stick to Swiftkey.
Also supports cursor movement from swiftkey ( swiping across the space bar )
The way I just switched from GBoard to HeliBoard for the exact same reason. It's like this video was made for me. Loving the keyboard so far
Samsung Keyboard with good lock additions is the best keyboard out there. Has some awesome features that integrate with the OS like no other. But i will probably get angry comments to this, oh well. But I really like the idea of a fully offline keyboard.
IPhones have better cameras than Samsung phones 😠! You're welcomed ☺️.
Great catch. Swiftkey has been having issues for awhile. Will give Futo a try. Did you see the other apps the developer is working on?