I think the big concern is that conservationists have made the created structure of biotic nativeness into gospel truth. It is a relatively recent and incoherent construct, yet it seems to have an almost religious following. By demonstrating suitability to an environment, they should be considered native. It is an utter farce to say that just because humans transport a creature that it is un-natural. Google "The Rise and Fall of Biotic Nativeness" which is an excellent write up on the subject.
Now a days people are so brainwashed, they even can't think clearly. I can easily write a paper showing invasive species kill other plants or animals. Also I can show them native species do that too. Academics are now a days do that, they show one side, skipping other to get funds. people are so naive!
The point isn't whether or not the species can naturalize, or how well they can situate themselves... It's the fact that a lot of these species, which are deemed invasive, are actively repressing, and even eradicating their competitors, to the extent that biodiversity levels are dropping drastically. It proliferates the spread of pests, and removes food and habitat for other species. This can result in monocultured environments, extinctions/extirpations, and ultimately an entire loss of ecosystems that have existed and evolved for millions of years. We can argue that none of that matters, but the result will be a massive loss of species around the world... And while you might not care, many other people gravely mourn the loss of these animals, plants, fungi, etc. A hemlock-beech forest, or an oak/maple/hickory forest, or a poplar grove, etc, are all massively different landscapes that offer unique beauty as well as incalculable medicinal, ecological, and historical values. And on top of that, humans have been cultivating lands for tens of thousands of years -- but in doing so, they protected the lands. What you are suggesting, is a complete abandonment of that stewardship.
@@IMbirdieful Who are humans to be stewards? And if we are to be stewards, do I lead the effort? Or you? You're a meddler in things you project your own viewpoint on without understanding that there is a whole world beyond what little you see.
@ indigenous communities around the world have been stewards of the environment for thousands of years. A great example of this is a fossil record of an American chestnut forest that was farmed by native Americans for over 3,000 years. Ok top of that, they would curate grasslands to attract bison and other herds as a food source. They would literally shape the land and insodoing, promote and maintain a diverse and rich landscape.
"The American mink being American are bigger, more aggressive, they breed better, they are much more efficient at hunting, its a classical case of oversized over sexed and over here." Damn this mink reminds me of myself back in my navy days lol. I feel bad for the native European wildlife but that mink makes me proud to be American. Go spread freedom and democracy little buddy!
Really well given and explained-thanks!
"Because of it's adaptability, it can be difficult to control"
Remind you guys of anything?
*cough* *cough* humans
I think the big concern is that conservationists have made the created structure of biotic nativeness into gospel truth. It is a relatively recent and incoherent construct, yet it seems to have an almost religious following. By demonstrating suitability to an environment, they should be considered native. It is an utter farce to say that just because humans transport a creature that it is un-natural.
Google "The Rise and Fall of Biotic Nativeness" which is an excellent write up on the subject.
Now a days people are so brainwashed, they even can't think clearly. I can easily write a paper showing invasive species kill other plants or animals. Also I can show them native species do that too. Academics are now a days do that, they show one side, skipping other to get funds. people are so naive!
How did rats ended up in Gourge Islands
The point isn't whether or not the species can naturalize, or how well they can situate themselves... It's the fact that a lot of these species, which are deemed invasive, are actively repressing, and even eradicating their competitors, to the extent that biodiversity levels are dropping drastically. It proliferates the spread of pests, and removes food and habitat for other species. This can result in monocultured environments, extinctions/extirpations, and ultimately an entire loss of ecosystems that have existed and evolved for millions of years. We can argue that none of that matters, but the result will be a massive loss of species around the world... And while you might not care, many other people gravely mourn the loss of these animals, plants, fungi, etc. A hemlock-beech forest, or an oak/maple/hickory forest, or a poplar grove, etc, are all massively different landscapes that offer unique beauty as well as incalculable medicinal, ecological, and historical values. And on top of that, humans have been cultivating lands for tens of thousands of years -- but in doing so, they protected the lands. What you are suggesting, is a complete abandonment of that stewardship.
@@IMbirdieful Who are humans to be stewards? And if we are to be stewards, do I lead the effort? Or you?
You're a meddler in things you project your own viewpoint on without understanding that there is a whole world beyond what little you see.
@ indigenous communities around the world have been stewards of the environment for thousands of years. A great example of this is a fossil record of an American chestnut forest that was farmed by native Americans for over 3,000 years. Ok top of that, they would curate grasslands to attract bison and other herds as a food source. They would literally shape the land and insodoing, promote and maintain a diverse and rich landscape.
nocturnal invasive probing.Just one more to store it for viewing.
NO NOT THE BABY BUNNY
ilove you doc :)
"The American mink being American are bigger, more aggressive, they breed better, they are much more efficient at hunting, its a classical case of oversized over sexed and over here." Damn this mink reminds me of myself back in my navy days lol. I feel bad for the native European wildlife but that mink makes me proud to be American. Go spread freedom and democracy little buddy!
Propose on the spot
Who in the comments are selling minks I'll give ya 500 for it i want one
Yes, she doesn't.
She's smart AND hot!
...I'm pretty sure that this chick could convince me of ANYTHING! ;)