First class instructional video showing clearly and simply how to fit a rain trap to a down pipe and connect it to the water butt. Well done Harrod Horticultural !
thank your for posting this, it has helped me attach my raintrap with a Harcostar I got from Amazon-found the instructions themselves a little vague for me-but your video was great
Thanks for this invaluable video. The instructions with the kit are pretty good, but not having done this previously, I wasn’t entirely sure on all the terms described. Your video makes everything clear. Massively appreciated.
Nice video, but I still had some problems with fitting the raintrap in between the two parts of the pipe (upward, downward). The crucial step of fitting the raintrap into the pipe was not properly shown in the video (1min33), and in my case it was not easy at all to position it in between the upper and lower pipe. I decided to cut slits (distance between slits = diameter of the pipe) in the vertical rim that is present in the upper part of the raintrap (see 1min23) to facilitate some extra upward movement of the raintrap. By also cutting away an extra 2-3 mm of the pipe, I just had enough room to fit the raintrap in between the pipe. I am eager to learn how I could have done this easier (i.e. without cutting these additional slits or disconnecting the pipe from the wall of my house).
I'm more worried about why is there a sagging tube between them? It would be more correct to cut the pipe a little higher so that there is a slope. Then the water will not accumulate in the pipe, but will directly flow into the butt
If u were to cut the pipe 1 inch higher than the butt then the diverter will never stop the flow and the butt will just overflow. They could have cut the hose down to get rid of the loop
Nope you need it same level or the butt can overflow when full. This approach ensures that once the butt is full and the water level equalises any more rain water is then diverted down the original lower half of the drain pipe.
I have recently purchased a rain barrel and raintrap. I have a question about the installation though. All of the tutorials I have fiund online install the waterpipe filter on the same height as the rainbarrel's entrance hole (= water level). I understand that you should not install it beneath the water level of the barrel. In my case I would like to install the raintrap filter about 70 cm higher up on the pipe than the entrance of the barrel. Logic tells me it could still work, but I haven't tried and haven't found any examples of it being done that way. I would love to hear your input!
Hi there, like you say logically it should work OK, we have always installed them level based on the instructions, but I can't see why it wouldn't work higher up the pipe. It may be worth contacting Harcostar direct to see if they have any advice - if you email info@straight.co.uk then they should be able to offer some advice. Hope this helps.
@ Epi Bee Probably too late, but if the diverter is set too high relative to the water butt (70 cm is an enormous differential) the butt will overflow. Some people want this - like me - because I'd rather divert the water well away from my shed via an overflow I fitted to the opposite side of the water butt.
No one is talking about the capacity of the Rain Trap. If you have a large roof or if there is a heavy shower, the Rain Trap cannot handle it. So much water flows into the container of the Rain Trap that it overflows and then most of it flows to the sewer and little to the rain barrel and the rain barrel remains empty. The solution is simple... don't use a Rain Trap. Make a larger hole in the lid of the rain barrel and connect the downspout to it. Hang the hose on the overflow in the drainpipe to the sewer or let the water from the overflow run directly into the garden. You can also use both overflows.
The big problem with that is that all the debris from the roof and gutter will go straight into the butt, clogging up the tap and contaminating the water with algae growth. I suppose you could fit a filter of some sort, but that would need cleaning out very frequently.
@@felixannie3676 That can happen with the Raintrap too, there is no difference. But most people haven not much debris on there roof and you can put a net or something in the pipe. With Rain Trap nothing gets in the barrel if it is raining hard or with a large roof. Try it yourselve.
Hi - I bought one of these a while back and have finally got round to installing it... . I know it had the water level sticker when it arrived, but can't seem to find it. Can you tell me how much drain pipe I need to cut out and I can then improvise!
The downpipe connector does work with 61mm and 65mm square downpipes, the sections that fits over the pipe just has to be cut to the square shape in the template. Exactly same principle as in the video. Hope this helps.
if the trap is higher than the top of your barrel, water will overflow from the top. once you move the trap lower (or barrel higher) so the top of barrel is slightly higher than the trap, the exceeding water will flow back to downpipe
Sorry but this doesn't show how the device actually diverts water from downpipe to butt, is there an on/off switch or something, seems pretty obvious to show that part since this is what it's about??
The water will divert back into the downpipe when the water butt is full. Once the level resumes below the connection level it will automatically flow back into the water butt again, hope this helps.
The rain trap is designed to work with plastic downpipes as the unit itself is plastic. We don't advise using with cast iron and the downpipe would also be difficult to cut.
I know this video has been around for a while but it was still invaluable to me in 2023. Thank you
First class instructional video showing clearly and simply how to fit a rain trap to a down pipe and connect it to the water butt.
Well done Harrod Horticultural !
thank your for posting this, it has helped me attach my raintrap with a Harcostar I got from Amazon-found the instructions themselves a little vague for me-but your video was great
Thanks for this invaluable video. The instructions with the kit are pretty good, but not having done this previously, I wasn’t entirely sure on all the terms described. Your video makes everything clear. Massively appreciated.
This was a massive help, thanks so much!
Nice video, but I still had some problems with fitting the raintrap in between the two parts of the pipe (upward, downward). The crucial step of fitting the raintrap into the pipe was not properly shown in the video (1min33), and in my case it was not easy at all to position it in between the upper and lower pipe. I decided to cut slits (distance between slits = diameter of the pipe) in the vertical rim that is present in the upper part of the raintrap (see 1min23) to facilitate some extra upward movement of the raintrap. By also cutting away an extra 2-3 mm of the pipe, I just had enough room to fit the raintrap in between the pipe. I am eager to learn how I could have done this easier (i.e. without cutting these additional slits or disconnecting the pipe from the wall of my house).
Just installed this same raintrap and faced the same issue. I also cut away the inside parts. Fits nicely now :) tnkx!
Bedankt voor de tip!
@@gerard4703 nice that my suggestion was useful.
Why does this not work on cast iron downpipes? Thanks
I'm more worried about why is there a sagging tube between them? It would be more correct to cut the pipe a little higher so that there is a slope. Then the water will not accumulate in the pipe, but will directly flow into the butt
Same thoughts as me
If u were to cut the pipe 1 inch higher than the butt then the diverter will never stop the flow and the butt will just overflow. They could have cut the hose down to get rid of the loop
Nope you need it same level or the butt can overflow when full. This approach ensures that once the butt is full and the water level equalises any more rain water is then diverted down the original lower half of the drain pipe.
I have recently purchased a rain barrel and raintrap.
I have a question about the installation though. All of the tutorials I have fiund online install the waterpipe filter on the same height as the rainbarrel's entrance hole (= water level). I understand that you should not install it beneath the water level of the barrel.
In my case I would like to install the raintrap filter about 70 cm higher up on the pipe than the entrance of the barrel.
Logic tells me it could still work, but I haven't tried and haven't found any examples of it being done that way. I would love to hear your input!
Hi there, like you say logically it should work OK, we have always installed them level based on the instructions, but I can't see why it wouldn't work higher up the pipe. It may be worth contacting Harcostar direct to see if they have any advice - if you email info@straight.co.uk then they should be able to offer some advice. Hope this helps.
@ Epi Bee Probably too late, but if the diverter is set too high relative to the water butt (70 cm is an enormous differential) the butt will overflow. Some people want this - like me - because I'd rather divert the water well away from my shed via an overflow I fitted to the opposite side of the water butt.
No one is talking about the capacity of the Rain Trap. If you have a large roof or if there is a heavy shower, the Rain Trap cannot handle it. So much water flows into the container of the Rain Trap that it overflows and then most of it flows to the sewer and little to the rain barrel and the rain barrel remains empty. The solution is simple... don't use a Rain Trap. Make a larger hole in the lid of the rain barrel and connect the downspout to it. Hang the hose on the overflow in the drainpipe to the sewer or let the water from the overflow run directly into the garden. You can also use both overflows.
The big problem with that is that all the debris from the roof and gutter will go straight into the butt, clogging up the tap and contaminating the water with algae growth. I suppose you could fit a filter of some sort, but that would need cleaning out very frequently.
@@felixannie3676 That can happen with the Raintrap too, there is no difference. But most people haven not much debris on there roof and you can put a net or something in the pipe. With Rain Trap nothing gets in the barrel if it is raining hard or with a large roof. Try it yourselve.
@@aquafan1491 Thanks. I'll find out, if it ever rains again!
Hi - I bought one of these a while back and have finally got round to installing it... . I know it had the water level sticker when it arrived, but can't seem to find it. Can you tell me how much drain pipe I need to cut out and I can then improvise!
Probably too late for you, but may help someone else- the tape is 2.2cm wide, and the water line is 4mm from the bottom edge.
What do you do if your rain pipe is square?
The downpipe connector does work with 61mm and 65mm square downpipes, the sections that fits over the pipe just has to be cut to the square shape in the template. Exactly same principle as in the video. Hope this helps.
What happens when the water butt is full…….does it overflow or does it self regulate? Thanks
+Hunt Shoot Fish the water then diverts back into the main downpipe, regards HH
+Harrod Horticultural Thanks I think some of mine must be fitted wrong as they overflow from the barrel top when full….
if the trap is higher than the top of your barrel, water will overflow from the top. once you move the trap lower (or barrel higher) so the top of barrel is slightly higher than the trap, the exceeding water will flow back to downpipe
Sorry but this doesn't show how the device actually diverts water from downpipe to butt, is there an on/off switch or something, seems pretty obvious to show that part since this is what it's about??
The water will divert back into the downpipe when the water butt is full. Once the level resumes below the connection level it will automatically flow back into the water butt again, hope this helps.
The rain trap is designed to work with plastic downpipes as the unit itself is plastic. We don't advise using with cast iron and the downpipe would also be difficult to cut.
That won't work well. That huge u bend will pose a problem.
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and when you get a little bit of rubbish come down of the roof, your little pipe gets blocked
then you open the unit and clean it out dont be so childish
Use a gutter net