Chris, this is why I buy all of my equipment overseas at your place. Because you aren't afraid to tell us what is wrong with each item even though it's all that you carry. Keep up the great work
For many years I've been a Dainese goretex textile man and never considered any other brand, but since I've subscribed to your channel I've been made aware of other brands that provide equally if not better quality products 👍
I am watching randomly your podcasts from Italy,trying to understand most of it with my lite english and i Think you are making great content,keep up the work
I'm a frenchman, but I do really appreciate your reviews, and specially this one. You say what you think. Maybe not everyone would agree, but this is your point of view. And I have to say that honesty is not the first quality met in reviews on internet. And it gives a point of view to be considered. Thanks for that. Unfortunately (for me) you're located over the Channel. I would have been pleased to visit you for my gear choice !
i went for a Carlsbad suit, and have been very happy with it. The fit is loose, but with a kidney belt it helps to tighten it up. The loose fit means its easy to fit layers under it if needed to keep warm in the cooler conditions. And by contrast the venting is excellent - very easy to keep cool on warm days.
My choice too. I ride in the arctic. Loose is Good because i can fit My Airtech5 airbag vest under My Klim jackets nicely. Super jacket & pants. It works in Scandinavia… Only gripe is the reflected stripes that tend too come off & that the zip is reversed if you add a Badlands jacket that i also have… I did howewer solve this issue with a tailor & fixed & extra zip so i can combine My Carlsbad pants with My Badlands jacket
I had two suits of REVIT‘s Dominator gtx and both were leaking right from day one. Almost 3500€ for a very bad experience? Will take me a while to give it a try again, even though there new off-road collection looks very promising. 🤔
I was just going to say I've had one for a couple of years and it's been flawless. Could use it as a dry suit some of the weather I've been through without getting wet from outside or in. Posieden GTX laminated, great in winter and summer.
I like Klim jackets because of the colour options, superb loose fit, protection, waterproofing, venting & comfort. I use a airbag vest under My jackets. The loose fit is a blessing. Note: i ride in arctic climate…
Hi Chris, I like your elaborative reviews. They gave me a lot of insight and helped me with my gear choices over the years. However, I always had to confront your opinions when trying the gear on. For instance, I chose Klim Carlsbad 2 years ago and I have been happy with it ever since, riding in various conditions, however I do admit that there are circumstances, under which this jacket will not excel. This is, not surprisingly, when it's really hot and sunny outside. My experience is that the jacket works up to 27-28deg. C. if you ride fast enough (highways / motorways) and up to 24-26 deg. C. in slower (city) speeds or in Dolomites in summer. But anything within the limits, the jacket performs great. It's lightweight, with lots of maneuverability and functionality (pockets). Loose fit is not a disadvantage - it does not flap at all and water does not come in (what you suggest), at least on a BMW GS I own. I happened to ride in heavy rains so I talk from experience. It's definitely my first choice for trips when walking around is going to be limited and if weather forecast shows anything below 27C with mixed or unpredictable conditions (obviously I leave it at home for the trip to Andalusia / Spain :)) For me, it's a huge benefit if you can skip constantly thinking is it already high time to pull over and put the rainproofs on. Rainproofs generally suck - they take away all the advantages of any jacket - pockets, breathability, maneuverability.
Great video. I can recommend Rukka Pro laminate gear. I have the Rukka Armaxxion outfit and use the Storm products to keep it clean and tip top condition. Plus I still have my old Rukka drop liner Goretex outfit from 2002. Look after your gear and it will look after you.
Great reviews. I wish we had all these available in the US. Also, I take a bit of exception. The US is a huge country and there's plenty of very difficult off road riding here. New England is at least as difficult as Old England.
Belstaff superfabric works testament to a crash which ruined my knee but hardly damaged the trousers. I m ok as the leg length suits me . Don’t need thermal liners I use base layers and heated gear and armour gets removed as I use my airbag - 20 years in A&E 5 years in motorsport is my clinical evidence after all cars have airbags not level 2 armour
The Stadler Supervent Jacket with plus4 pants is excellent kit. The protection offered is very reassuring with all the advantages of laminated Gore-Tex. I wear nothing else. The only improvement as you say Chris is a better liner.
Live in Dallas TX . Heat is an issue. Buying a Triumph Rocket for cruising. Your detailed analysis of jackets is the best that there is. Any recommendations for my mission and climate?
Really interested to hear about the Rukka Kingsley. Had no idea it was developed for the Met, but sadly not surprised it was seen by the accountants as too expensive. Impressed that the Met finally brought Rukka, after all this has been discussed for years. A step in the right direction, but as you pointed out sad that the officers safety comes down to a price, but I guess that’s the way of the world.
In relation to my post in previous video, I think that I nailed it with the Alpinestars Boulder GTX: AA rated 3layer laminate with separate thermal liner and full L2 protectors and Superfabric. Ventilation all over the place: 2 on every arm, 2 on every side front panel and back. Plus special 2nd mesh front zipper with never-seen panel hooks, Water bladder pocket, double back pocket, integrated waist belt, collapsible front pockets and more. Stylish European fit, comfortable, even with in-motion airbag vest. Very fair price compared to the big 3. I could only find 1 presentation of this jacket on YT and no review. Not sure why. Rode only once with it since I got it under rainy conditions.. All good as expected. Very happy!
I am looking at Boulder, but is it really a 3L laminate? I saw that on description it says DWR, or is it only stretch panels for airbag under armpits DWR treated ? I have TechAir5 and would like to get Boulder as its designed for it, but unsure…
@@leosined4536 Hi, it’s a fully laminated jacket. Regarding your second point, I am not sure to really understand. There are lightly stretch panel under the armpits, but I have not experienced any wetting in rainy conditions even under severe conditions. Maybe a DWR coating helps. But I cannot see an issue there to be honest. Wearing an airbag gillet underneath is fine (Furygan for me, but not in hot conditions +28 Celsius)You need to remove the huge backpanel in order to install the airbag. All together this combo is quite heavy! Ventilation is great in hot weather with all zips open. Collar ajustement is a bit tight (for me even +1 size) and flimsy, but works! I combined the jacket with the according pants. Connect just fine and no issue at all either. Just did a 1000km trip in a day under 30+ Celsius with 3 hours of heavy wind, rain and some hail. No issues. I’m happy with it! Hope that helps.
@@os6219 thanks for reply! answers a lot of questions, what pants did u combine with jacket i couldn’t find Boulder pants, how heavy is the jacket? Does neck has a storm collar or that is unnecessary?
This gentleman is truly a rock star im my opinion. I wish someone would sponsor him and send him on a tour of the world, especially America. I would most certainly make the trip to spen an hour with him even though it wouldn't take that long with his knowledge. Thank you Sir for your knowledge and for those that are behind the scenes that make these videos possible. If (the biggest word in the dictionary) IF I'm ever blessed enough to cross the pond, he will be the first person I'd want to pick me up from the airport. Ha! Safe travels in your journey gentleman, and as always... hope ya get laid tonight! 😂
Outstanding review ❤ but so much choice? I want a comfortable, stylish, waterproof and warm winter riding jacket and trousers? ( no limit to my budget) I want the best? Please advise?
Hi there, please send a note into askthechap@motolegends.com, and we'll be able to assist. More info. can be found here - www.motolegends.com/reviews/Ask-the-Chap
Chris, Klim jackets are loose because of the airbag they sell. I had a minor off rod fall and broke my ribs......I ran out and bough the Klim Air vest. As you know it worn underneath the jacket. I would not ride on or off road without one. So you need the room :) 😁
Not true. Klim jackets were loose many years before the airbag was invented. The fit may be a benefit, but that is not the reason for it. Then again, who wears an airbag jacket off-road? CP
@@Motolegends I wear my air vest off-road and on-road. I feel naked without one. I fell, off-road and broke my ribs, this would have prevented it. Klim air bag vest had a mode for off-road NOT moto-cross but dual sport riding. Yes their gear has always been loose, but more loose now than ever and same gear is lighter.
@@Motolegends You should take "off road" with a grain of salt when it comes from an American...he's surely speaking about riding down a gravel road with a 1200GS. I'd go as far as saying that "off road" = "off interstate" for some of them.
Looking for something that is 100% windproof. With good protection and lvel 2 armor. I see all these vent on these jackets and wonder how much it compromises the wind blocking ability.
Had 2 pairs of sunne trousers and both failed in the crotch area within a few days, got soaked in Scotland. Returned them and went for some klim Carlsbad. Shame as they were comfortable and looked great....should add that I didn't get them from motolegends
No love for the Richa Arc Gore Tex? It's a fabulous jacket, with a nice slim fit and incredible protection (D3O elbows, shoulders, back and optional chest).
Methinks you need a certain type of budget to own most of this gear🤔😉nice to look at but more difficult for a lot of us to justify the price on the ticket
Excellent review of so many jackets. I'm currently browsing and am so disappointed you're so far away from me. I always hate buying online, due to sizes and fitting, especially of jackets that your life may depend upon.
Komine is known as an inexpensive brand in Japan. Many people resist it and wear expensive and unsafe KUSHITANI or HYOD. However, Comine products are also used by the Japanese police. The protector function is comparable to that of 3DO's RUKKA and KLIM. Riders who wear Comine are commonly known as 'Comine Man'.😁
@@sotomo6106 I bought a mesh jacket but taxes and shipping was the same as the jacket it self. I have decided to buy the trousers also and close my eyes with the taxes.
I wear a Klim Baja Jacket year round. First of all Klim is *American Sizing* with 70% of our adult population obese. Our waist size is often greater than our chest size. While that doesn’t apply to me , I do live in a more tropical area with higher Temps and humidity so for me the loose fit of Klim gear allows better air circulation and cooling. I love the more trim fit of European manufactured clothing but it isn’t practical in my climate.
The Elefant in the room is, of course, that Chris and Motolegends are going to put all these jackets in the dustbin of history. The ML Layering method of merino/down or heated/Marakesh with single layer jeans and Scott waterproofs does everything that any of these fabulous jackets can do but also work in any other weather throughout the year. My Rukka hasn't been off the hanger for over twelve months. Of course, many people will still want "proper" kit and need to look like "motorcyclists" but in the real world the layering method is the answer.
Yes, that is indeed a conundrum, although for deep winter commuting, for those who don’t want to have to stop and put on waterproofs, there is still a case for a waterproof suit. CC.
I just have a Merlin Edale Jacket and normal jeans and leggings. However I just can’t afford a lot of the stuff being showed in the video. The Belstaff Jacket looked pretty cool. If I was riding 12 hours nonstop, many of those jackets will make sense for me. This is a great channel and very informative. Cheers NZ.
BUT - you only deal in the most expensive jackets and trousers. Which means - you would never be able to review the Oxford laminated kit - which is very much worth considering, if bikers are not wealthy enough to visit Moto Legends.
Thermal is not really related to waterproofing. Thermal is about the layers you wear beneath and, contrary to the beliefs of many, staying warm on the bike is easy. You just need to choose the right layers for the riding you do. To that end, all of the jackets here will work as well as any jacket out there in the winter months, save for the minor fact that you lose one a small, insulating, air gap when you go laminated. CP
@@Motolegends 0:15 ; not true anymore after this answer. Also I releated the term "winter" with thermal liner, not waterproofing for sure. I can make even any summer jacket suitable for with layers, thats not the point of being winter jacket. Finally, "staying wam on the bike is easy" ended my subscription to Motolegends, I wont take this anymore... Thank you.
@@plt4415 "Staying warm on the bike is easy".... if you're preapred to invest in full heated gear wired into the bike or faff about with multiple layers, or ride a Goldwing with a heated seat. Having ridden through many winters on a naked bike on hour long commutes with long stretches of motorway I can confirm it is not easy once the temp drops below 5c, and for me the only way was diy electric clothing (works brilliantly, not ridiculously expensive, and easily fixable). I guess the ease is directly related to the willingness to spend money and not ride in the cold.
@@plt4415 I think the channel guy is a real nice man. But for Elon Musk all these prices are dirt cheap. But not for me they are cheap or inexpensive. The only jacket I liked the look of was the Belstaff. I’ll just stick to my Merlin Edale and jeans and long Johns. What I’ll try and do is get the latest warm thermal singlet and tea shirt. And the warmest long Johns available. And water proof light leggings. Where the channel is right is if you’re doing Adventure riding or long distance riding day after day after day after day, then there could be a reason to go into debt and invest in some of these jackets. But 99% of us ride for pure enjoyment and for some regular commuting. Cheers NZ.
It cracks me up when he says “off-road riding is much more difficult in the UK”. He must not realize that we have soooo much more public land, chock full of every kind of riding you can imagine. Vast deserts with flowing dunes, high plains with endless dirt roads, forest trails. All of them have miles and miles technical single track any time you want to veer off the gravel. I’d wager we have more square miles of rideable public land in the western US than England has square miles. For example, the BLM administers 381,250 square miles. If only 15% of that were accessible it would be over 57,000 square miles. I believe England is about 50,000 square miles 😂
Having more public land and more square miles of "off roads" doesn't mean that yours are more or less difficult, what a nice fallacy right there! He just meant, I pretty think, that in UK, off roading is more technical, more single track-like hence not suitable for a heavy, bulky, warm laminated jacket. While in the US, since you guys have more vast public land as you say yourself, those Klim and the like "off road" jackets are more designed for long gravel logging trail. It wasn't meant to be an insult but trust an American to take it as so. We just can't say a thing that sounds negative about your good ol' land of the free.
Chris, this is why I buy all of my equipment overseas at your place. Because you aren't afraid to tell us what is wrong with each item even though it's all that you carry. Keep up the great work
For many years I've been a Dainese goretex textile man and never considered any other brand, but since I've subscribed to your channel I've been made aware of other brands that provide equally if not better quality products 👍
I am watching randomly your podcasts from Italy,trying to understand most of it with my lite english and i Think you are making great content,keep up the work
Great review did not think I would last 35 mins of jacket reviews but Chris that was enjoyable, love the channel
use playback speed x2 😀
I agree Chris has an awesome channel.
I love my Halvarsons kit. Distinctive, different and functionally excellent. A fraction of the price Rukka and Klim.
Great support too.
You guys do a splendid job of providing useful information on jacket construction and each products strengths and weaknesses. Keep up the great work!
I'm a frenchman, but I do really appreciate your reviews, and specially this one. You say what you think. Maybe not everyone would agree, but this is your point of view. And I have to say that honesty is not the first quality met in reviews on internet. And it gives a point of view to be considered. Thanks for that. Unfortunately (for me) you're located over the Channel. I would have been pleased to visit you for my gear choice !
Nailed it Frenchie
@@danboyd6180 I went to Scotland in May. Too North to go down !
i went for a Carlsbad suit, and have been very happy with it. The fit is loose, but with a kidney belt it helps to tighten it up. The loose fit means its easy to fit layers under it if needed to keep warm in the cooler conditions. And by contrast the venting is excellent - very easy to keep cool on warm days.
My choice too.
I ride in the arctic.
Loose is Good because i can fit My Airtech5 airbag vest under My Klim jackets nicely.
Super jacket & pants.
It works in Scandinavia…
Only gripe is the reflected stripes that tend too come off & that the zip is reversed if you add a Badlands jacket that i also have…
I did howewer solve this issue with a tailor & fixed & extra zip so i can combine My Carlsbad pants with My Badlands jacket
Missing the REVIT´s . I know you cant have all brands... But REVIT certainly is a Major brand in this market!
I set my eyes on the Revit Trench ❤ 2L laminated
Yes I'm very pleased with my Ignition 3. Never failed and I have it in heavy rain and in modest rain in 5 degree C in 400km.
I'm Rev-it and Klim guy.
I had two suits of REVIT‘s Dominator gtx and both were leaking right from day one. Almost 3500€ for a very bad experience? Will take me a while to give it a try again, even though there new off-road collection looks very promising. 🤔
I was just going to say I've had one for a couple of years and it's been flawless. Could use it as a dry suit some of the weather I've been through without getting wet from outside or in.
Posieden GTX laminated, great in winter and summer.
I like Klim jackets because of the colour options, superb loose fit, protection, waterproofing, venting & comfort. I use a airbag vest under My jackets. The loose fit is a blessing.
Note: i ride in arctic climate…
Compliments for the best, honest review out there!
Always helpful and informative Chris. Thanks
Hi Chris, I like your elaborative reviews. They gave me a lot of insight and helped me with my gear choices over the years. However, I always had to confront your opinions when trying the gear on. For instance, I chose Klim Carlsbad 2 years ago and I have been happy with it ever since, riding in various conditions, however I do admit that there are circumstances, under which this jacket will not excel. This is, not surprisingly, when it's really hot and sunny outside. My experience is that the jacket works up to 27-28deg. C. if you ride fast enough (highways / motorways) and up to 24-26 deg. C. in slower (city) speeds or in Dolomites in summer. But anything within the limits, the jacket performs great. It's lightweight, with lots of maneuverability and functionality (pockets). Loose fit is not a disadvantage - it does not flap at all and water does not come in (what you suggest), at least on a BMW GS I own. I happened to ride in heavy rains so I talk from experience. It's definitely my first choice for trips when walking around is going to be limited and if weather forecast shows anything below 27C with mixed or unpredictable conditions (obviously I leave it at home for the trip to Andalusia / Spain :)) For me, it's a huge benefit if you can skip constantly thinking is it already high time to pull over and put the rainproofs on. Rainproofs generally suck - they take away all the advantages of any jacket - pockets, breathability, maneuverability.
Great video. I can recommend Rukka Pro laminate gear. I have the Rukka Armaxxion outfit and use the Storm products to keep it clean and tip top condition. Plus I still have my old Rukka drop liner Goretex outfit from 2002. Look after your gear and it will look after you.
Great reviews. I wish we had all these available in the US. Also, I take a bit of exception. The US is a huge country and there's plenty of very difficult off road riding here. New England is at least as difficult as Old England.
Belstaff superfabric works testament to a crash which ruined my knee but hardly damaged the trousers. I m ok as the leg length suits me . Don’t need thermal liners I use base layers and heated gear and armour gets removed as I use my airbag - 20 years in A&E 5 years in motorsport is my clinical evidence after all cars have airbags not level 2 armour
The Stadler Supervent Jacket with plus4 pants is excellent kit. The protection offered is very reassuring with all the advantages of laminated Gore-Tex. I wear nothing else. The only improvement as you say Chris is a better liner.
Live in Dallas TX . Heat is an issue. Buying a Triumph Rocket for cruising. Your detailed analysis of jackets is the best that there is. Any recommendations for my mission and climate?
Really interested to hear about the Rukka Kingsley. Had no idea it was developed for the Met, but sadly not surprised it was seen by the accountants as too expensive. Impressed that the Met finally brought Rukka, after all this has been discussed for years. A step in the right direction, but as you pointed out sad that the officers safety comes down to a price, but I guess that’s the way of the world.
I love the Kodiak looks, but dang! the full suit costs like a small motorcycle
In relation to my post in previous video, I think that I nailed it with the Alpinestars Boulder GTX: AA rated 3layer laminate with separate thermal liner and full L2 protectors and Superfabric. Ventilation all over the place: 2 on every arm, 2 on every side front panel and back. Plus special 2nd mesh front zipper with never-seen panel hooks, Water bladder pocket, double back pocket, integrated waist belt, collapsible front pockets and more. Stylish European fit, comfortable, even with in-motion airbag vest. Very fair price compared to the big 3. I could only find 1 presentation of this jacket on YT and no review. Not sure why. Rode only once with it since I got it under rainy conditions.. All good as expected. Very happy!
Do they have Alpns in the store?
I have Alpinestars Big Sur GTX PRO 3L suit
I am looking at Boulder, but is it really a 3L laminate? I saw that on description it says DWR, or is it only stretch panels for airbag under armpits DWR treated ? I have TechAir5 and would like to get Boulder as its designed for it, but unsure…
@@leosined4536 Hi, it’s a fully laminated jacket. Regarding your second point, I am not sure to really understand. There are lightly stretch panel under the armpits, but I have not experienced any wetting in rainy conditions even under severe conditions. Maybe a DWR coating helps. But I cannot see an issue there to be honest. Wearing an airbag gillet underneath is fine (Furygan for me, but not in hot conditions +28 Celsius)You need to remove the huge backpanel in order to install the airbag. All together this combo is quite heavy! Ventilation is great in hot weather with all zips open. Collar ajustement is a bit tight (for me even +1 size) and flimsy, but works! I combined the jacket with the according pants. Connect just fine and no issue at all either. Just did a 1000km trip in a day under 30+ Celsius with 3 hours of heavy wind, rain and some hail. No issues. I’m happy with it! Hope that helps.
@@os6219 thanks for reply! answers a lot of questions, what pants did u combine with jacket i couldn’t find Boulder pants, how heavy is the jacket? Does neck has a storm collar or that is unnecessary?
Well done review, thank you.
This gentleman is truly a rock star im my opinion. I wish someone would sponsor him and send him on a tour of the world, especially America. I would most certainly make the trip to spen an hour with him even though it wouldn't take that long with his knowledge. Thank you Sir for your knowledge and for those that are behind the scenes that make these videos possible. If (the biggest word in the dictionary) IF I'm ever blessed enough to cross the pond, he will be the first person I'd want to pick me up from the airport. Ha! Safe travels in your journey gentleman, and as always... hope ya get laid tonight! 😂
Excellent reviews of each jacket, thanks for sharing your opinion
Great video. Very informative. Thank you
Any chance you could review 2023 motorcycle trousers please?
How about the 2023 latitude for all road touring jacket.. Ocasional unpaved rd / gravel touring in 30 deg to 45 deg c days.
Very nice review
Outstanding review ❤ but so much choice? I want a comfortable, stylish, waterproof and warm winter riding jacket and trousers? ( no limit to my budget) I want the best? Please advise?
Hi there, please send a note into askthechap@motolegends.com, and we'll be able to assist. More info. can be found here - www.motolegends.com/reviews/Ask-the-Chap
Thanks or a very informative video. I'm a bit surprised to not see any top end Richa or Revit products.
Hi Chris, what about the DAINESE ANTARTICA (or ANTARTICA 2) Gtx jacket?
To my UK and Aussie friends, Klim is pronounced “climb”🙂.
Chris, Klim jackets are loose because of the airbag they sell. I had a minor off rod fall and broke my ribs......I ran out and bough the Klim Air vest. As you know it worn underneath the jacket. I would not ride on or off road without one. So you need the room :) 😁
Agree
Not true. Klim jackets were loose many years before the airbag was invented. The fit may be a benefit, but that is not the reason for it. Then again, who wears an airbag jacket off-road? CP
@@Motolegends they will work but if u fall off a lot then prob is refilling
@@Motolegends I wear my air vest off-road and on-road. I feel naked without one. I fell, off-road and broke my ribs, this would have prevented it. Klim air bag vest had a mode for off-road NOT moto-cross but dual sport riding. Yes their gear has always been loose, but more loose now than ever and same gear is lighter.
@@Motolegends You should take "off road" with a grain of salt when it comes from an American...he's surely speaking about riding down a gravel road with a 1200GS.
I'd go as far as saying that "off road" = "off interstate" for some of them.
Lol more arduous in europe? Not sure about that. Great video thanks.
Looking for something that is 100% windproof. With good protection and lvel 2 armor.
I see all these vent on these jackets and wonder how much it compromises the wind blocking ability.
I am klim funboy and badlands 22 model owner but i think you should include the Revit Dominator in your review.
+ Revit Trench
Had 2 pairs of sunne trousers and both failed in the crotch area within a few days, got soaked in Scotland. Returned them and went for some klim Carlsbad. Shame as they were comfortable and looked great....should add that I didn't get them from motolegends
Oh Crap!. I've just got one Sunne trouser to India through a friend working in Sweden.
There was indeed a batch of Sunne pants that had an issue in the area you described. But, in truth, the Carlsbad is a better quality product. CP
If you want to get the straight and skinny on what makes a good motorcycle jacket - listen to the Brits. They are the kings of sartorial splendor.
No love for the Richa Arc Gore Tex? It's a fabulous jacket, with a nice slim fit and incredible protection (D3O elbows, shoulders, back and optional chest).
Methinks you need a certain type of budget to own most of this gear🤔😉nice to look at but more difficult for a lot of us to justify the price on the ticket
I was thinking the same thing.
Excellent review of so many jackets. I'm currently browsing and am so disappointed you're so far away from me. I always hate buying online, due to sizes and fitting, especially of jackets that your life may depend upon.
Find your nearest Sportsbikeshop premises and try everything on to your hearts content.
Sunne jacket is a nice looking item
Why is the Komine brand from Japan never mentioned?
Komine is known as an inexpensive brand in Japan.
Many people resist it and wear expensive and unsafe KUSHITANI or HYOD.
However, Comine products are also used by the Japanese police.
The protector function is comparable to that of 3DO's RUKKA and KLIM.
Riders who wear Comine are commonly known as 'Comine Man'.😁
@@sotomo6106 I bought a mesh jacket but taxes and shipping was the same as the jacket it self. I have decided to buy the trousers also and close my eyes with the taxes.
I wear a Klim Baja Jacket year round. First of all Klim is *American Sizing* with 70% of our adult population obese. Our waist size is often greater than our chest size. While that doesn’t apply to me , I do live in a more tropical area with higher Temps and humidity so for me the loose fit of Klim gear allows better air circulation and cooling. I love the more trim fit of European manufactured clothing but it isn’t practical in my climate.
No Klim Badlands Pro?!
The only one I would happily wear is the Belstaff
Still waiting for your Las Vegas store to open...
The Elefant in the room is, of course, that Chris and Motolegends are going to put all these jackets in the dustbin of history. The ML Layering method of merino/down or heated/Marakesh with single layer jeans and Scott waterproofs does everything that any of these fabulous jackets can do but also work in any other weather throughout the year. My Rukka hasn't been off the hanger for over twelve months. Of course, many people will still want "proper" kit and need to look like "motorcyclists" but in the real world the layering method is the answer.
Yes, that is indeed a conundrum, although for deep winter commuting, for those who don’t want to have to stop and put on waterproofs, there is still a case for a waterproof suit. CC.
I just have a Merlin Edale Jacket and normal jeans and leggings. However I just can’t afford a lot of the stuff being showed in the video. The Belstaff Jacket looked pretty cool. If I was riding 12 hours nonstop, many of those jackets will make sense for me. This is a great channel and very informative.
Cheers NZ.
My Klim Carlsbad leaks through zippers,Klim says that zippers are water resistant no waterproof...
Mine is ok
BUT - you only deal in the most expensive jackets and trousers.
Which means - you would never be able to review the Oxford laminated kit - which is very much worth considering, if bikers are not wealthy enough to visit Moto Legends.
Tons of, yes laminated, but w/o thermal liner "winter" jackets.... -_-
Thermal is not really related to waterproofing. Thermal is about the layers you wear beneath and, contrary to the beliefs of many, staying warm on the bike is easy. You just need to choose the right layers for the riding you do. To that end, all of the jackets here will work as well as any jacket out there in the winter months, save for the minor fact that you lose one a small, insulating, air gap when you go laminated. CP
@@Motolegends 0:15 ; not true anymore after this answer. Also I releated the term "winter" with thermal liner, not waterproofing for sure. I can make even any summer jacket suitable for with layers, thats not the point of being winter jacket. Finally, "staying wam on the bike is easy" ended my subscription to Motolegends, I wont take this anymore... Thank you.
@@plt4415 "Staying warm on the bike is easy".... if you're preapred to invest in full heated gear wired into the bike or faff about with multiple layers, or ride a Goldwing with a heated seat.
Having ridden through many winters on a naked bike on hour long commutes with long stretches of motorway I can confirm it is not easy once the temp drops below 5c, and for me the only way was diy electric clothing (works brilliantly, not ridiculously expensive, and easily fixable). I guess the ease is directly related to the willingness to spend money and not ride in the cold.
@@plt4415 I think the channel guy is a real nice man. But for Elon Musk all these prices are dirt cheap. But not for me they are cheap or inexpensive. The only jacket I liked the look of was the Belstaff.
I’ll just stick to my Merlin Edale and jeans and long Johns. What I’ll try and do is get the latest warm thermal singlet and tea shirt. And the warmest long Johns available. And water proof light leggings.
Where the channel is right is if you’re doing Adventure riding or long distance riding day after day after day after day, then there could be a reason to go into debt and invest in some of these jackets. But 99% of us ride for pure enjoyment and for some regular commuting.
Cheers NZ.
You dont wanna sell stuff huh,.
these jackets are extremely expensive.
The video was changed ;). Second one is significantly different from the 1st.
Not the case. We only posted this video once. You might have also seen the ones from 2019 or 2020. CP.
What's the deal, is halvarssons also lindstrand? Did one buy out the other? The sunne is listed under both brands.
Lindstrands is a sub brand of Halvarssons so yes, both from same company. And have always been like that. One didn’t take over the other.
It cracks me up when he says “off-road riding is much more difficult in the UK”. He must not realize that we have soooo much more public land, chock full of every kind of riding you can imagine. Vast deserts with flowing dunes, high plains with endless dirt roads, forest trails. All of them have miles and miles technical single track any time you want to veer off the gravel. I’d wager we have more square miles of rideable public land in the western US than England has square miles.
For example, the BLM administers 381,250 square miles. If only 15% of that were accessible it would be over 57,000 square miles. I believe England is about 50,000 square miles 😂
Having more public land and more square miles of "off roads" doesn't mean that yours are more or less difficult, what a nice fallacy right there!
He just meant, I pretty think, that in UK, off roading is more technical, more single track-like hence not suitable for a heavy, bulky, warm laminated jacket.
While in the US, since you guys have more vast public land as you say yourself, those Klim and the like "off road" jackets are more designed for long gravel logging trail.
It wasn't meant to be an insult but trust an American to take it as so. We just can't say a thing that sounds negative about your good ol' land of the free.
You both, effectively, made the same point. Ride on and cheers from the less technical US. Be safe gentleman.