Joy Division Live at Birmingham University- Ceremony [Gig Version] May 2, 1980

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  • Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
  • Enjoy the actual and complete version of Ceremony played in the Birmingham gig in May 1980. The recording by the engineer starts in the middle of the song, this is the whole thing! Enjoy!

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  • @waynespencer3036
    @waynespencer3036 4 года назад +88

    40 years ago today. 2 May 1980, 2 May 2020. We miss you Ian and we always will do.

    • @tinyclangerusa
      @tinyclangerusa 4 года назад +1

      I was so angry at him - this little stranger, me, in the audience - he raised us up then went & did the stupid thing - I knew he was sick & struggling, but the pain of him doing that... we also sort of knew it was coming, if that makes any sense

    • @parkermorgan9211
      @parkermorgan9211 3 года назад +4

      ...If ever I had the T.A.R.D.I.S. from Dr. Who...The first thing I would do, would be to travel to that house, on that night...with the intent of hopefully changing history, for the better...

    • @Mirandelorean
      @Mirandelorean 3 года назад +8

      @@parkermorgan9211 even if he learned of his significance and importance in the world of music, he would still go through with his suicide. Ian was the kind of person that if he made his mind up it would be impossible for him to change it. His illness is what killed him and he was a few years shy from getting the proper medication for his epilepsy. I would often dream of a world where he lived but this world wasn't ready for him as he wasn't ready for it.

    • @cestulvarzebuskal8643
      @cestulvarzebuskal8643 Год назад

      @@tinyclangerusawhat are you talking about?

    • @tinyclangerusa
      @tinyclangerusa Год назад

      @@cestulvarzebuskal8643 Ian Curtis's suicide

  • @Glixity
    @Glixity 4 года назад +97

    I think its insanely sad that there isnt a good clear Ian version of this song and never will be. Also is it just me or is it sooo sad that there are like no interviews of ian or much videos of him talking? Its fascinating and makes ian much more of a legend because no one knows alot about him other than close friends and family.

    • @liamparker928
      @liamparker928 Год назад +7

      There is a rehearsal tape off this song you can listen too on RUclips it's quite good

    • @punkpanther6310
      @punkpanther6310 10 месяцев назад +1

      There is at least one interview with Ian if you search it out

    • @transmissionggb2820
      @transmissionggb2820 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@liamparker928I have it on vinyl and it’s clear enough and I don’t like the A.I versions that make Ian sound like a robot. And I like this version too it’s history and should be left the way it is. I know it’s a shame we couldn’t get the Joy Division version as a complete single but you feel it on the live and rehearsal versions and that’s enough for me Not a digital A.I robotic version that sounds clear but lacks the emotion and humanity of these versions.

    • @felkrosis8703
      @felkrosis8703 5 месяцев назад

      you should read his biography

    • @elenamilitopingitore5044
      @elenamilitopingitore5044 3 месяца назад

      There is an AI version it out now, it is very very well done❤

  • @diegoromero6137
    @diegoromero6137 6 лет назад +37

    16 days before Ian Curtis said goodbye, what an honor.

  • @ryanpeters6937
    @ryanpeters6937 9 лет назад +79

    This for me is the best version, when Ceremony is found with Lyrics and all, we will have stumbled upon Greatness.

    • @StevieRevbo
      @StevieRevbo 4 года назад +1

      ruclips.net/video/2zPIod2wjYE/видео.html

    • @Erikih
      @Erikih 3 года назад +6

      @@StevieRevbo This is just the New Order singles version, but slowed down.

    • @waycnf7229
      @waycnf7229 3 года назад +2

      @@Erikih Still a good version, and I think slowing it down made it better

    • @virginiakateglass2653
      @virginiakateglass2653 3 года назад +1

      There are lyrics. Ians handwritten lyrics in his notebook. Hundreds of them; ceremony is among them. Debbie had them printed in a book: Touching From A Distance

    • @reddays8448
      @reddays8448 Год назад +1

      The joy division version despite having bad quality is the best version I never liked any new order versions of joy Division songs to me it loses the feelings the connection that Ian had with the lyrics and music and it loses the specialness

  • @everettbutler8193
    @everettbutler8193 6 лет назад +94

    A heart felt last gig, live concert with Ian giving his all but not his best. Ian is tired, ill, sad in his life and feels he is letting down those around him who are counting on him. Unfortunatley Ian is the one others had let down in the end. He did not want to be a bother to others with his problems but he was reaching out in his music as cry for help. Had someone truly set down with him in a warm way and give him direction and kept a better eye on him. He was giving all the signs in 1980 with the suicide attempts. How can you love a friend, husband be in Ian's life and not take more of a stand to go the extra mile to be sure he stays around. He is so greatly missed and thought of and loved in his generation and now new generations that have come along. Ian left his mark not only in his music for the ears but in people hearts as well. He also was amazing to see on film live performances and his dancing was unique. He was a beautiful person inside and out for the most part. He was just confused very sick and at times hard to understand by friends and family. But who has the right to hold anything bad against Ian for doing the best he could under his cicumstances. It was hard for him to ask for help.Although he could be very bold at times he still was a shy person in his spirt, things didn't come easy for Ian. Miss and love you Brother. I'm proud of all you did and all your hard work you left behind for others to enjoy. You were an amazing singer,musician,Lyricist and poem writer and a passing angel to this world.God bless you.

    • @KomackinoA
      @KomackinoA 3 года назад +6

      Don't think it was that easy for him, he was on like 50 different meds and the world clearly did not understand mental health and depression. As sad and tragic as the Joy Division story is, it is achingly beautiful and perfect in a way. Im so happy the surviving members kept going as New ORder, it was a wonderful journey of hope and growth and great way to keep Ian's legacy alive. Both Joy division and New order are my favourite bands for similar but different reasons. They overlap a great deal without actually being anything alike tonally.

    • @DIVISIONINCISION
      @DIVISIONINCISION 3 года назад +3

      Young Everette. Mental illness is poorly understood by the majority of the public, especially back in 1980. Ian was suffering from Major Depressive Disorder as well as his epilepsy. As I've come to understood in life, the good die young. Such is the case.

  • @ionlyusepics
    @ionlyusepics 4 года назад +28

    imagine hearing this live today

  • @NocturneVid66
    @NocturneVid66 13 лет назад +27

    This is my favorite version of Ceremony because the band is playing with so much more energy than on the other version!

  • @UKAlanR
    @UKAlanR 3 года назад +8

    LOVE that this is available at long last. It complements well the version we have from Still.
    Great memories of this night, which no-one knew would turn out to be so significant.

  • @Erikih
    @Erikih 12 лет назад +34

    I think the recording by the engineer starts at 1:53. I calculated it with the recorded version of this masterpiece.

  • @marksim990
    @marksim990 6 лет назад +21

    I have never heard this version and this is from a guy who saw Joy Division in the Glasgow Apollo supporting The Buzzcocks in 1980.
    Raw and real.

    • @UKAlanR
      @UKAlanR 5 лет назад +2

      Their tour with the Buzzcocks was in '78. In 1980 they were touring as headline act, in N Europe, then in the UK, and booked for the US (cancelled due to Ian's death).

    • @jumofi
      @jumofi 3 года назад +2

      @@UKAlanR the tour was in 79

    • @UKAlanR
      @UKAlanR 3 года назад +1

      @@jumofi you're right

    • @UKAlanR
      @UKAlanR 3 года назад +1

      @@jumofi you're right - 1979. Certainly not in '80, as the main comment above said.

    • @UKAlanR
      @UKAlanR 3 года назад

      @@jumofi you're quite right there - my slip-up when correcting the assertion above that it was in 1980.

  • @marck.4289
    @marck.4289 8 лет назад +19

    Today, 36 years ago...

  • @noahcorona1397
    @noahcorona1397 4 года назад +10

    I need a video bro PLEASE I needa see the Ian Curtis performance to this song Fucc i wish I was there. If I had just ONE trip in a time machine it would be to this place and time right here.

    • @UKAlanR
      @UKAlanR 3 года назад +4

      Videos still quite rare in those days, and this was 'just another gig'......or would have been.

  • @trot2millah
    @trot2millah 4 года назад +3

    RIP IAN JOY DIVISION IS FOREVER

  • @LiveJoyDivision
    @LiveJoyDivision  13 лет назад +10

    @TheOldEchoes nope this one can't be found elsewhere from the start. The sound engineer recorded the song midway and this is the only one that recorded from the start with a good audio base. Next time dont dislike..

  • @toli96
    @toli96 12 лет назад +3

    LOVE LOVE LOVE JOY DIVISION!

  • @DazzzTube
    @DazzzTube 11 лет назад +12

    This would've been the only recording of this song with Ian Curtis. This was also joy divisions last performance with Ian.

    • @justinbeck4197
      @justinbeck4197 5 лет назад +7

      not true there are a few rehearsal demos

    • @leonardocarneiro9520
      @leonardocarneiro9520 4 года назад +11

      It was their last LIVE performance, 16 days before he died

    • @32446
      @32446 2 года назад +1

      There are a few others

  • @ProjectFlashlight612
    @ProjectFlashlight612 8 лет назад +18

    This is the audience recording version, surely.

  • @daviddockery8962
    @daviddockery8962 4 года назад +31

    Damn that set list at the end looks so good. Wish I could have been at a gig. Too bad I’m only 17 lol.

    • @tinyclangerusa
      @tinyclangerusa 4 года назад +10

      I'm 61 & am happy to say - you'd have loved it - it was so wild, so meaningful, so intense; the crowd united in its love of our local home grown genius...

    • @noahcorona1397
      @noahcorona1397 4 года назад +2

      Deborah Beale were you at the University show??

    • @tinyclangerusa
      @tinyclangerusa 4 года назад +7

      @@noahcorona1397 No, sadly, but I saw them at the Russell Club/The Factory in Manchester on that same spring 1980 'tour'

    • @tinyclangerusa
      @tinyclangerusa 4 года назад +6

      I also saw them in August at the Beach Club, first time playing in public after IC"s death - the audience, all 100 (guesstimate) or so of us, was utterly reverential - the pain in the room, tangible... Nobody sang. Just instrumental music.

    • @tinyclangerusa
      @tinyclangerusa 4 года назад +4

      @@noahcorona1397 'Isolation' was always my favorite. The music's so uplifting, the lyrics are genius

  • @redcoat4ever
    @redcoat4ever 4 года назад +3

    Holy shit this is so effin raw and GOOD!

  • @levoyageurdenice9894
    @levoyageurdenice9894 7 лет назад +1

    many thanks for this post Mate!😃

  • @TheKathleenR
    @TheKathleenR 12 лет назад +2

    This is amazing ,great version! :D

  • @jasmineling9139
    @jasmineling9139 5 лет назад +1

    I love the sound of the audio

  • @ignatzly
    @ignatzly 4 года назад

    thank you som much

  • @JordanofHuddersfield
    @JordanofHuddersfield 4 года назад +9

    Has there been a better song? I honestly don't think there has, before or after.

  • @elenamilitopingitore5044
    @elenamilitopingitore5044 3 месяца назад +1

    There is an excellent AI version of this out now

  • @tedex8100
    @tedex8100 5 лет назад +49

    Imagine a musical world,
    without Stephen Morris ?
    Same.
    Don't go there.

  • @shrek1onDVD
    @shrek1onDVD 3 года назад +1

    thank god this still up, fuck yo, best version hands down

  • @IKONtheband
    @IKONtheband 3 года назад +1

    You can still here Ian's voice in the foldback.

  • @teamyordle23
    @teamyordle23 5 лет назад

    Thank you

  • @justinbeck4197
    @justinbeck4197 5 лет назад

    thanks for this treasure

  • @viviane6473
    @viviane6473 4 года назад +2

    40 anos atrás

  • @abrahamvelazquez77
    @abrahamvelazquez77 3 года назад

    Gold pure Gold

  • @kevinvillacis269
    @kevinvillacis269 6 лет назад +4

    Dude this recording is great in the relesed one Ian’s voice is gone in this one there are really great vocals

  • @leothelion6075
    @leothelion6075 4 года назад +22

    Really hope someone finds the real lyrics to this song one day

    • @greenplastic69
      @greenplastic69 4 года назад +1

      SECRET ORIGINAL LYRICS:
      Focus how the wheels are moving
      Find the same, the same old story
      Focus why the wheels are turning
      throw them away until they will catch fire
      Hope to find the same little story
      maybe then they will see me
      Hope and pray, no one saw me
      maybe then, they will go catch fire
      I'll break them all, no mercy shown
      heaven knows I got to get somewhere
      crash and burn, the things I did
      I got too stealth prepared for it this time
      I'll break them all, no mercy shown
      heaven knows I got to be somewhere
      Avenues all wind with trees
      pictures me and then you'll start watching
      watching forever
      watching forever,
      wherever i go, they will go
      wherever i go, they will go
      wherever i go, they will go

    • @leothelion6075
      @leothelion6075 4 года назад +2

      @@greenplastic69 ? Where this from?

    • @nl3064
      @nl3064 4 года назад

      @@greenplastic69 he's clearly saying "Heaven knows it's got to be this time", not "I' got to be somewhere".

    • @waycnf7229
      @waycnf7229 3 года назад

      @@nl3064 He says that in the rehearsal

    • @deoranjed8118
      @deoranjed8118 Год назад +1

      Most of them are completely wrong bud LOL

  • @jumofi
    @jumofi Год назад +2

    Microfone não estava funcionando no inicio da música. Erro grave dos roadies...

  • @barriem5318
    @barriem5318 2 года назад +2

    I hear elements of this song in the New Order song Regret.

    • @BryanRobson89
      @BryanRobson89 2 месяца назад

      New Order re-released this song after Ian passed.

  • @daviddockery8962
    @daviddockery8962 4 года назад +2

    Someone should put this and the engineers version together because his sounds better in quality but adding this would make it more complete.

  • @LiveJoyDivision
    @LiveJoyDivision  13 лет назад

    @NocturneVid66 Thank you!

  • @almicheli54
    @almicheli54 8 лет назад +2

    Primeira e ultima apresentação de "Ceremony" pelo JD...

  • @HaraldSjellose
    @HaraldSjellose 5 лет назад +8

    so till 1:53 its audience recording then it switches to engineer recording right?

    • @monjesenal7477
      @monjesenal7477 4 года назад +3

      Zemzem Dağdelen no this is the entire audience recording.

  • @michelemarsoni583
    @michelemarsoni583 4 месяца назад +1

    Ian Curtis Forever

  • @npc-dq4zl
    @npc-dq4zl 4 года назад +1

    RIP Ian...

  • @paulmca9731
    @paulmca9731 4 года назад +1

    RIP Ian

  • @rockyfan
    @rockyfan 13 лет назад +3

    @shutupfreak There were 3 other members of Joy Division who deserve to be heard too.

  • @LiveJoyDivision
    @LiveJoyDivision  12 лет назад +1

    @birdandthe I just found different downloads to ceremony and found these different versions. You may say what you want but they do sound different. :P cheers for the observation

  • @LiveJoyDivision
    @LiveJoyDivision  13 лет назад

    @TheOldEchoes I know but the other audio starts half way, this one starts from the start.

  • @EMC2Scotia
    @EMC2Scotia 28 дней назад

    "New One"

  • @rockyfan
    @rockyfan 13 лет назад +5

    @shutupfreak But there's no other recording that lets you hear this song in its entirety, I love the better quality version on Still, but that's incomplete, yet I also love this complete version in its 'shit quality' completeness. Unless you've discovered some new recording of it?
    Anyway, you can say what you want, it's your opinion. In the end, I'm a Joy Division fan that enjoys any and all available recordings of their all-too-brief career.

    • @StevieRevbo
      @StevieRevbo 4 года назад

      New Order's first single!

  • @yakoviev558
    @yakoviev558 3 года назад +1

    This is the full version of Ceremony then inserted, with the first part cut, in Still?

  • @JustFortheRecord66
    @JustFortheRecord66 9 месяцев назад +1

    What was the source for this? Too bad the full version wasn’t used on Still.

  • @birdandthe
    @birdandthe 12 лет назад +1

    @Erikih IT SAVES THE EFFORT OF PRESSING AN EXTRA BUTTON

  • @LiveJoyDivision
    @LiveJoyDivision  12 лет назад

    Its the setlist of songs ;D

  • @liconsa6808
    @liconsa6808 5 лет назад

    May.

  • @LiveJoyDivision
    @LiveJoyDivision  12 лет назад

    @birdandthe I release all my videos before nintendo. I posted all versions because they were all in the bootleg flak, why not?

  • @StartsWithACee
    @StartsWithACee 2 года назад

    I know the pitch of this is off, but it makes this song even more depressing to hear.

  • @LiveJoyDivision
    @LiveJoyDivision  12 лет назад

    @birdandthe yes but both at different pitches and tempos.

  • @gilflavah9686
    @gilflavah9686 2 года назад

    i can imagine Ian going crazy on the chorus

  • @JejakARDANA
    @JejakARDANA 2 года назад

    why there is no any video footage of Joy Division at Birmingham University? Whats Factory Records did that time?

  • @TheKathleenR
    @TheKathleenR 11 лет назад +4

    where was the picture at 1:13 from?? :)

    • @sieben8724
      @sieben8724 4 года назад +3

      He used to play that guitar in love will tear us apart, so it's probably a live of that song
      (I know I'm kinda late)

    • @adolfofernandez7387
      @adolfofernandez7387 4 года назад

      @@sieben8724 yes , 6 years ago jajajajaja

  • @TheKathleenR
    @TheKathleenR 12 лет назад

    Alrty I see! haha thanks:)

  • @heekyungkim8147
    @heekyungkim8147 3 года назад

    Bebe photo of Ian makes me sad.....

  • @slosheroni
    @slosheroni 8 лет назад +3

    I have 17000 of the views here

  • @dhiguera13
    @dhiguera13 4 года назад +1

    Can someone pitch this down to fit the engineer's recording from Still?

    • @slosheroni
      @slosheroni 4 года назад

      Why?

    • @dhiguera13
      @dhiguera13 4 года назад

      @@slosheroni so it can be in the actual key they played it in.

    • @slosheroni
      @slosheroni 4 года назад +2

      @@dhiguera13 Thanks. I'm not a musician. Is it because the tape or whatever it was recorded on is all stretched and worn out?

    • @StartsWithACee
      @StartsWithACee 2 года назад

      It sounds so much better pitched up in my opinion

  • @LiveJoyDivision
    @LiveJoyDivision  12 лет назад

    it doesn't matter my fellow jd fan ;D

  • @LiveJoyDivision
    @LiveJoyDivision  12 лет назад

    @LiveJoyDivision released*

  • @birdandthe
    @birdandthe 12 лет назад

    this seems the same version as your other ceremony ??

  • @JohnMcAuley
    @JohnMcAuley 5 лет назад +3

    Many people assume he died because of drug abuse, like many others. It was the debilitating seizures. So fucking sad. Genius taken too soon.

  • @alexmad9377
    @alexmad9377 6 лет назад +1

    the whole gig can be bought on vinyl. im sure its better sounding than this.

    • @ItzDatGuy21
      @ItzDatGuy21 6 лет назад +1

      Yeah but the first half of Ceremony is cut off so you cant hear the whole song.

    • @HaraldSjellose
      @HaraldSjellose 5 лет назад +1

      @@ItzDatGuy21 why is it cut off

    • @ItzDatGuy21
      @ItzDatGuy21 5 лет назад +1

      @@HaraldSjellose Because the sound egimeers or someone forgot to hit record if im not mistaken. Thats why you can only hear half of it

    • @HaraldSjellose
      @HaraldSjellose 5 лет назад +1

      @@ItzDatGuy21 are we talking about the still version?

    • @ItzDatGuy21
      @ItzDatGuy21 5 лет назад +2

      @@HaraldSjellose yeah

  • @LiveJoyDivision
    @LiveJoyDivision  13 лет назад

    @shutupfreak I'm saying your being hypocritical and contradicting yourself. I posted this so people could enjoy, and your denouncing basically shows how your trying to prove your a better fan than us.

  • @user-oj7ci1oe6h
    @user-oj7ci1oe6h Год назад

    最期のメモは何が書かれてるんですか?
    誰か教えて!

    • @Amenazamundial
      @Amenazamundial Год назад

      "Forever, let it be so"

    • @user-oj7ci1oe6h
      @user-oj7ci1oe6h Год назад

      @@Amenazamundial
      それだけしか読み取れないってこと?

  • @birdandthe
    @birdandthe 12 лет назад

    @LiveJoyDivision and whats the point of that ?

  • @LiveJoyDivision
    @LiveJoyDivision  13 лет назад

    @shutupfreak Your exemplifying this trait by denouncing this video that contains music for pure enjoyment. And your right eh?

  • @Nominay
    @Nominay 3 года назад

    It's better faster like this.

  • @Nominay
    @Nominay 3 года назад

    I'm struck by the similarity of the percussion and uptempo with Gloria by U2.

    • @stevetaylor317
      @stevetaylor317 9 месяцев назад +1

      Of course! I never thought of that. But JD were a big influence on U2 - they even met, at Britannia Row studios.

  • @danneiswender3118
    @danneiswender3118 4 года назад +1

    Really cool. Would have been a great show to see. I was only 5 years old, wouldn't have worked.

  • @LiveJoyDivision
    @LiveJoyDivision  13 лет назад

    @shutupfreak for the sake of Ian stop bickering!

  • @LiveJoyDivision
    @LiveJoyDivision  13 лет назад

    @luxonskinjob I will jizz in my pants if he does that! :D

  • @greenplastic69
    @greenplastic69 4 года назад +4

    SECRET ORIGINAL LYRICS:
    Focus how the wheels are moving
    Find the same, the same old story
    Focus why the wheels are turning
    throw them away until they will catch fire
    Hope to find the same little story
    maybe then they will see me
    Hope and pray, no one saw me
    maybe then, they will go catch fire
    I'll break them all, no mercy shown
    heaven knows I got to get somewhere
    crash and burn, the things I did
    I got too stealth prepared for it this time
    I'll break them all, no mercy shown
    heaven knows I got to be somewhere
    Avenues all wind with trees
    pictures me and then you'll start watching
    watching forever
    watching forever,
    wherever i go, they will go
    wherever i go, they will go
    wherever i go, they will go

  • @bierigblondje
    @bierigblondje 8 месяцев назад

    NOU SORRY ,MAAR ZOALS DIE OP STILL STAAT IS PRIMA.DIT IS HEEL VEEL FALS SPELEN