Disaster in Utah (SkyWest Flight 1834) - DISASTER BREAKDOWN
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- Опубликовано: 28 янв 2022
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The role of Air Traffic Control in aviation in the modern day is essential. Controllers whether they are located at an airport or remotely have a real time live Birds eye view of their airspace. Airspace as you might expect is packed with planes of all sizes surrounding larger airports. Assuming that airspace is arranged appropriately, and that Controllers and pilots are fully aware and follow the rules, there is nothing unsafe here. The prospect of a midair collision can be extremely terrifying especially for those already predisposed with a fear of flying.
To overcome these fears, education is always an interesting jumping off point. Once one gains a greater understanding of something that can appear intimidating, especially if that something gives off the aura of being gatekept behind years of study and experience, they may be far more inclined to face that fear. I say that because aviation is complex, it can be a lot to take in. So for this video I’d like to take a moment to look deeper at a lesser known midair collision. That of which occurred in the skies above Salk Late City, Utah in 1987. We’ll learn about the itineraries of the planes involved, the events which transpired for these two planes to end up at the same point in the sky at the same time, and how technologies have developed to help prevent such tragedies from happening again.
Background Music Credits:
Follow the Falcon - David Celeste
I Will Remember - Gavin Luke
Tracker - Christoffer Moe Ditlevsen
Transmitting - Ethan Sloan
Winter Serenity - Howard Harper-Barnes
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libraryonline.erau.edu/online-...
www.nytimes.com/1987/01/17/us...
www.deseret.com/1989/7/29/188...
www.travelandleisure.com/trav...
www.nhs.uk/mental-health/cond...
apnews.com/article/4521c1c43e...
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It will be interesting, if you make breakdown of Lion air JT 610 disaster... I'm waiting for it
make video about Vietnam airlines flight 474 crash on November 14 1992
If you hit a certain milestone will you consider videos twice a week?
Sioux City airplane crash?? Pls
I know you keep getting suggestions, but an incident similar to the one you did on the 727 disappearance, Varig flight 967, would be a very interesting one.
The occupants of SkyWest flight 1834 are as follows:
Captain Michael David Gambill, 37
First Officer Walter F. Ray Jr., 33
Tom Rouse
Stephen Copans
Chuck Montgomery
LaVerne June Tiger, 52
Nekoma J. Rangel, aged only 6
Jimmy C. Landreaux, aged only 5
And the two occupants of the Mooney:
Pilot Chester Baker
Instructor Paul Penrose Lietz, 54
Rest In Peace.
You left out, the mid-air collision of Allegheny Airlines flight 853 with a PA-28 Piper Cherokee, on September 9th, 1969, which was well before any of the three U.S. mid-air collisions you noted. The accident involving Flight 853, killed 83 people and should have been a wake up call to the FAA, but sadly it took three more deadly mid-air collisions in the U.S., before anything was done. Perhaps you could do a program on Allegheny Airlines flight 853?
Thanks for the info. I'll check it out!
I live 1 county away from the crash site. Indiana's worst air disaster.
To think that over 200 people had to die from 3 major midair collisions (PSA 182, Allegheny 853, Aeromexico 498).
Wasn't at least the start of better traffic separation protocols (if nothing else)?
I remember this very well. I was a little kid in elementary school in Kearns that day. I heard the loudest, blood curdling boom and we all jumped under our little desks. We weren't allowed to leave school on foot because of the body parts that were out there. My mom had to come pick us up. After all these years, and because I was so little, I often thought that maybe I had imagined this event until coming across this video today.
I was in high school at the time at Taylorsville High. So sad. My aunt's in-laws house was damaged a bit from the debris. They lived right in the path.
There is no Air Traffic Controller on Unicom. That is Common Traffic Advisory Frequency used by pilots to announce positions and intentions. Some FBO’s monitor and can provide local information such as wind velocity and direction, but are not controllers.
Nice vid! On your space shuttle Challenger video I think it was, you mentioned that you would potentially do maritime disasters, will you do them this year?
Andrea Doria would be a good one
@@charleskennedy1712 there is an excellent book on that tragedy which analyses all technical data and the inquest
@@danieleregoli812 there’s been a few books about it over the years, I wonder which one you’re thinking of
Sewol, titanic, modern cruise ships etc
MS Estonia would be great. The videos I've seen are factually lacking or incorrect
The intro is very true, I used to be scared of flying, but after learning more, it has helped
It's insane how there are a rather amount of in air collisions even with technology however anything could happen even with advanced technology
Not all humans understand the technology.
This is FASCINATING! I actually plan on taking PPL lessons out of south valley regional airport soon, and when I go to my jobs central office I routinely pass by this airport. I had absolutely no idea about this! I absolutely love when you cover lesser known crashes and HUGE kudos to you for the compilation of research and condensing of sources into these videos.
Wow, what a sad story. It's definitely a catalyst and a precursor to the installation of TCAS. Good video. As always, thank you for taking the time to make it and post it.
man, and i just flew into and out of slc!
the views of the mountains are gorgeous, and youre only a few thousand feet above the peaks. im used to the smokies since i live nearby, but the rockies have NOTHING on the appalichian. so pretty.
Your videos are always such a joy to watch and helped inspire me to enroll in school to get my A&P mechanic license. Little less than 15 months until "graduation"!
You must be getting close to the finish now. I hope you're doing well, we sure need good mechanics.
@@angelachouinard4581 I just passed my airframe o&p a couple days ago and have my powerplant scheduled for the end of july! thank you :)
National Airways Flight 27 could be an interesting air disaster for you to cover sometime in the future. It's a pretty crazy incident that happened back in 1972 where a passenger was ejected out the window of a DC-10 after an uncontained engine failure penetrated the fuselage. To my knowledge no one on RUclips has made a video about this yet.
Some pictures of the wreck show the magnled plane with blood all over the windows.
Scary
do you have a link to these photos?
@@cooldude-tb1px Why the hell would you wanna see _THAT?_
@@Dat-Mudkip a sicko.
I guess I can't post that I have photos.
@@joinjen3854 Some people are interested.
I like how the instruments on the Skywest plane took a very...let`s say "transparent" approach towards the outside world at 1:30. Great content, though, as usual.
In the USA at least, I do think there are too many light aircrafts flying too close or even inside big airports areas so that, as small airplanes will never be equipped with the same systems as airliners and, in addition, knowing that they mix amateurs and professionals, this kind of accident will happen again and again. My opinion
Dude you have Lindsay Ellis, THE Lindsay Ellis, as one of your Patrons? I had no idea she was into aircrafts! Whatever you think about her personal politics she's a great editor and creator. She obviously sees the same potential in you. Keep it up! (But don't overwhelm yourself -- your mental health is not as important as some vague algorithm or keeping us entertained. Wishing you the best from St. Louis (KSTL, Lambert International, right under runway 12R to be exact!)
I like the way you work. Your explanations are easy to understand once you’ve educated us as to what’s going on.
Another masterpiece, thanks Chloe!
Reminds me of the Cerritos air disaster which involved an AeroMexico DC9 approaching LAX and a private plane that had just taken off from Torrance Airport. May the victims in both accidents RIP. ❤️❤️
This incident stands out from the other similar ones you mentioned (and Allegheny 853) by virtue of both accident aircraft being prop planes, a circumstance in which the antiquated "See and avoid" principle was at least _somewhat_ feasible (if hardly desirable as a first resort). Whereas the others were "See and avoid is worthless when a jetliner is involved"
I've been watching this channel (and similar ones) for months. I know more about airplanes and how they work than I did this time last year. I know the stats and how air travel is by far the safest mode of transportation today. And yet, I'm still terrified of flying. I still fly, because I have chosen not to live in fear, but still...
Good for you, choosing not to live in fear!
Would it help you at all to think about how there are more planes flying at once than all the disaster videos on any given channel? And these videos cover a span of decades, making up a nearly insignificant percentage of every flight that's ever happened?
You've said you know the stats, but perhaps framing it this way makes the safety factor a bit more tangible?
Also if you haven't already found it, I recommend watching Mentour Pilot's series on air incidents. As a very experienced pilot, he speaks with firsthand knowledge of the environment, but is objective, not glossing over anything, and he's incredibly reassuring. 🛫🍍
do a video about West Caribbean flight 708
great video, as always!
the video about the Collision over the Grand Canyon
I find these videos really interesting to watch, especially given the amount of research and the tone of your presentation. Thank you for your efforts. The only thing is, for some strange reason I can never take proper notice of the year of the disaster =\
No matter what, I'm going to miss you saying "where are my cheetohs?"
😂
Damn, if I was afraid to fly before I'm absolutely ass clenched now brother...!
Nice video mate, you always impress me
I love the smooth ride of a Mooney. My friend had one, they are nice little planes.
Thank you so much for doing this video! I lived in SLC at that time and later became an emergency medical technician there. Part of our training was to analyze photos of mass casualty incidents, not just to analyze the type of injuries but to harden us against the gruesome scenes we may encounter in our work. One set of photos was from a mid-air collision over the Salt Lake Valley. In recent years I have tried like crazy to find more information on this disaster- until I saw this video! Thank you very much!
Crazy. I live in SLC and often wonder about south valley whenever I fly out to the south. I had never heard of this disaster, but it completely makes sense knowing the area
Just wanted to say this channel is fantastic and you have a very soothing voice/accent.
Fantastic, as always!
Love your videos
great video
Well done from one RUclipsr to another keep it up my friend! That number of subs should have a 1. In front of it! Cheers
Another great video keep it up!
This would be a much different story had the plan landed not even a block later, probably would've been one of the worst plane to on ground civilian crashes, an entire school would've been gone. In a weird twisted way its very lucky the plane crashed where it did
Thanks for your style of reporting.
Like your voice, very much.
You ever do radio?
Make the next video about south Europe/Balkans since 50% votet for that
Yes that is coming next week!
@@DisasterBreakdown nice
@@DisasterBreakdown JAT 367 or Zagreb mid-air colision
Vietnam airlines flight 474 accident on November 14 1992 you should make a video about it
One of the rules in seafaring is that if two ships are coming head to head with each other, both ships are obligated to turn right. To turn to their right. Are there such rules in aviation?
Nowadays tcas exists
His voice is so smooth
her
MTF = Male to female, but the voice sounds very male.
Video went better than my date tonight thanks. :)
Thanks!
can you change your comment
My mom was a school teacher at West Kearns Elementary and her kids were out on recess and saw it happen and saw some of the bodies falling. I can only imagine what they were thinking at that time. Thank you for sharing.
I grew up in Kearns and I still remember it.
I remember this for some reason I was 6 or 7 at the time and went to that elementary, I only remember my dad taking me home, we lived 1 block down
YESSS new video.
I grew up in Kearns and was 7 when this happened. I lived in the jet path just south of where the collision occurred. That crash and the coverage after it happened is still seared into my memory (probably because of the wreckage and body parts that were found all over the area). There are two main paths to SLC airport from the south now (only one was used in 1987) The So. Valley regional airport is almost directly under the main path. It’s never made sense to me why they placed the smaller airport where they did when there were plenty of alternatives at the time it was built.
I remember this for some reason I was maybe 6 or 7 and went to that elementary. I remember my dad taking me home. We lived one block down.
I love these videos despite me not having anything to do with aviation... I am generally afraid of flying, but it has helped to be knowledgeable about past accidents and how they happened.
I've noticed you haven't been including recordings in recent videos. Is there a reason? Have they just not been interesting/helpful for recent videos? Do they not exist? Am I just sadistic for wanting to hear them? D:
a person on unicom is not a controller
I was looking at the videos of the airport and I was wondering why that airport looked so familiar when I've never even been to Utah. Then I realized it was LAX, out of which I've flown numerous times and every time I've flown internationally. Just seeing that makes me feel the excitement of getting to go to an entirely different country (although I've been to both of our neighboring countries on land).
My mom as child actually witness this crash and saw people body part fall to this day it still haunts her
I was 6 or 7 and went to that elementary. I lived a block down, remember dad taking me home
My biggest fear is mid air c
I can't even begin to imagine how terrifying it would be to be inside of a destroyed aircraft falling to the earth after a mid-air collision.
@@LunaticTheCat not much u can do at that point
Very scary stuff 😢😢😢
The fact that there are very few mid air collisions, even with ever increasing aircraft in the sky, shows you how good 95% of the World's ATC operators are and how highly trainined they are. It's like juggling with 100 balls in the air at any one time whilst having one eye covered, standing on one foot and spinning around like an ice skater.
It's such a high pressured job that they're only allowed to a few hours on shift at any time before having to rest, I imagine they get a lot of headaches, even with our ultra modern technology.
The sky west plane isn't exactly small. The Mooney is tiny with a backwards vertical stabilizer
Babe wake up, Disaster Breakdown just posted!
They say flying is safer than driving, but when you binge watch these videos it makes you think that planes crash all the time. I've only flew one time in my life from Dayton Ohio to Portland Oregon and I remember the turbulence scared the crap out of me. I love this channel and it's nice learning from these videos, keep up the awesome work. 👌
Statistics isn’t a strong suite of yours. Example I’ve been in three car accidents, zero plane accidents and I fly a lot, been flying since a baby! We even flew on the death trap value jet, quite a bit because they had a route from Louisville to atl.
How did you escape Ohio?
Had the Mooney (pilot) flew at its VFR altitude (6500' or 8500'), this accident would not have happened.
Remember California. Rip Amen 🙏. Thanks friend for Educational video.
Did you ever think about making this series a podcast? I'd totally listen to this while driving or something.
If you have YT Premium you can background listen?
@@jimbee7342 not a bad strat but to have these on a podcast service would get him more views and build a bigger network
I listen to the videos all the time while driving (I don't look at the actual video of course).
so why were they heading towards the airspace of salt lake city international airport?
Heyyyy I live in Pocatello I had no idea this happened
How long before ALL aircraft are mandated to carry TCAS?
Disastah in Utah
Please cover Arrow Flight 1285 that crashed at Gander Newfoundland killing all aboard? It was transporting US soldiers.
I seem to recognise the voice and accent. Do you do other utube channels ?
Please make 1978 Balkan Bulgarian Tupolev Tu-134 crash
Oh wow that's interesting. Wonder what happened
Vietnam airlines flight 474 crash on November 14 1992
Im relatively confident that the flight number was 1987, and the crash happened in the year 1834.
I still think about the near collusion of the two China airplanes. That was a close call.
why when there's fatalities do they exclude the cabin crew?? I did see in a movie something about cabin crew understanding the danger of their jobs but its still a death? I've googled it with no luck
Wikipedia says 10 dead total. Between both vehicles
Don't forget the 2002 Uberlingen mid-air collision
The most exciting thing to happen in Utah
"I'VE NEVER HEARD OF THIS MID-AIR COLLISION UNTIL NOW. THANKS FOR THE REPORT."
Umm what's a unicom controller?
Is United flight 232 next?
💜✈
Sioux City airplane crash?? Pls
Not again! Widely published elsewhere!
@@davidjma7226 ok
maen
Did lizzy get there yet ???
I bet the pilots in the smaller plane where we’re fooling around with each other. Maybe sword fighting
the closed captions here are also not good.
See and avoid......
Chloe fellow transgender MTF here been on HRT over [2] years and just had FFS only to realize I will remain in the closet the rest of my life I live in Salt Lake City Utah and can't deal with the hate and ridicule our transgender especially MTF community gets in conservative Utah. I was pleasantly surprised to find out my favorite Air crash case study RUclipsr is also transgender and knows exactly the obstacles we face!! You have the perfect narrative voice incredibly soothing which can only be describe as tenderness your script written with the outmost respect to all involved and full of sensitivities to the memory of the victims, and without judgement or prejudice wish your channel incredible growth and even overtake the mighty The Flight Channel . Cheers From Salt Lake City!
I think you are incorrect, there was one survivor.....
Great video, keep up the good work. Just need to point out that it is Salt Lake City. Throughout the video, the captioning read 'Salk' incorrectly. Perhaps have a third party edit the CC track before publishing it. Thanks !!
see and avoid is a myth. you cant see to avoid
Small airplanes need to be relegated to outside airports. This is 3 small craft in a few years killing hundreds.
if stefan death & the grips sees this comment, just wanted them to know that i love their name
Pin that and take note
fear is the key, the more you fear the more you accept
Every time an ad pops up (almost every 5mims), a "stop and" icon pops up. Well how about the uploader does just that and stop's ruining the video's you're uploading with ads. Stop being greedy and expecting ppl to give u money
can you chill out on the sarah mclachlan music, nice vid otherwise
nah
Brigham Young did the same thing to Joseph Smith
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