Could listen to John Carmack talk for hours on end and never be bored :D. Met him many times since the very first Quakecon, first class human being and brilliant engineer.
Came here after watching your "Why Xbox Lost" video and now im getting priceless knowledge on leadership and human decency. Thank you, liked and subscribed.
When John Carmack isn't heard, it's truly a sad world. His Authenticity is Bar-none and i love it! My takeaway from what you said is that if i want to lead, i shouldn't be focused on winning an arguement, i should be focusing on the right thing & keeping healthy feedback. And that letting power go to my head is a quick path to destruction. This is difficult for me. Even though i know this in my heart, i'm in-experienced and have never lead a team. My ego gets in the way of doing what's right sometimes, soo it will be something i need to always learn, grow and work on. I really appreciate your insight and if you have more advice i'm open!
I wonder if we will see AGI or closely resembles it from John Carmack's Keen Technologies startup in a decade or so. It will be nice to see him in the spotlight for something he contributed greatly again in the future.
Zuckerberg must be the most powerful of terrible leaders if he can even repel benevolent hyper-intelligent architect of the post-singularity simulation we all live in, John Carmack. Only by merging Carmack's electrons with the power of Gaben, can they become a sword... or something... that can be used to defeat Emperor Zuck if the -overweight slacker- valiant young hero who finds it can unlock its power by gathering four crystals of the elements, after Zuck... burns down his village... or shoots his puppy... or something. I think we're doomed, there are a lot of logically unlikely dependencies in this plan...
I am the classic engineer that blames all problems on management, but it is refreshing and inspiring to hear the point of view from someone that has had your incredible experience as a manager. Your mentions about how culture and feedback loops are crucial to healthy products is a perspective I never considered before. Thanks, and subscribed!
John Carmark is also a really great inspiration for me. His work at Id Software has followed me since the first time I sat in front of a computer. the IdTech engine is pure raw genius and performance. Really admirable. That's also why I was very nervous when he joined Oculus, that was owned by Meta. I didn't believe it was the right place for him, but that was for him to decide, not me. Carmack eventually left, probably because Meta didn't align with his way of wokring, and that he didn't get the freedom he needs, for his miracles to happen. Carmack isn't just a cog in a machine.... he IS the machine!
John Carmack is an amazing human being. We need more engineers like him leading things. Industry is fully of business people who are busy climbing the corporate ladder with fake-it-make-it nepotism back-scratching-friends mentality. Completely fake.
The closest comparison I can think of to John Carmack is Gene Kranz, a hard-nosed, straight-talking scientist who also knows how to inspire his people to do the impossible, but most important of all cares about what he does and the people who do it with him.
He is going to make great strides working in AI with Dr. Sutton he is such an amazing and sweet guy and his love for seeing what other people create and show him is amazing.
You deserve more views. I would storyboard your edits and visuals before you execute. I think this would add polish. I also recommend a new microphone and some noise reduction panels for better audio. Finally, I recommend splitting up your videos addressing the different topics with a visual that shows what you are currently talking about. I highly respect you and your videos. I hope these minor tweaks will improve your viewer count. I recommend: John Micheal goiter (he has a way of building a cult following) Leeja d - she has great law videos that are masterfully edited and has a RUclips mentorship platform that may help you springboard to success.
There is not really any id left despite the name. The new team seems great but it's mostly a great team sailing under the flag of a company that once was. It's as if your favorite band was changed so much that only one person from the original lineup is left and they sound totally different. Maybe still good but definitely not the same any more.
I still believe that the best Xbox console was the 360. It has great games (Gear of Wars, Mass Effect, etc) but also the console was Apple quality. It was recognizable. I am a AAA game dev, and at that time I was working on a Prince of Persia game. I was lead Engine. But boy the fun I had with that console, PIX, debugging tools, the XDK, everything was great. You could also write a C# app using the XDK library. Amazon product. Now Xbox is only a shadow of themselves, developping on XSX and SXS is just a pain. I am now a Playstation Fan, they have great hardware, the development on these consoles are just as fun as on the 360. They also have great games (Spiderman, GOW, Horizon West, Ghost of Tsushima, etc). It is a shame that Xbox has come so low. Anyways, that all i got for today. A+
Agree, I own both XBox 360 and PS3, and the XBox got all my time. In the 4th generation, Microsoft made so many mistakes and never fixed them, and they have lost me for good.
It's always strange to hear the moral considerations of "great leaders" instead of an introspection on inevitable systemic issues of companies under capitalism, especially tech companies. He's absolutely a rarity, but he shouldn't be. He's so great he transcended the politics for so long; an absolute overkill of a human, first and foremost true to the craft and its benefits for society -- and still he wasn't enough of a driving force. Makes you think.
When the first priority of a business is "make money", it will eventually fold up under the gravitational force of its own navel gazing. The only question is how much damage it will do along the way. When the first priority of a business is "making a great product" or "providing a great service", then "making money" is something which will happen as a natural result of succeeding at the primary goal.
@@ShuRugal Very hard to do with over-corporatized capitalism that produces companies too big to even function for anything other than "making money". This is nothing new. It'll get worse over time in the tech sector. Unity, Cyberpunk -- great people with a lot of passion worked on these products, and yet they were a predictable trainwreck that was in slow decline for years. Anyone on the inside could tell you that things are provably gonna be bad sooner or later and the users will suffer greatly. In tech, there is nowhere near enough power in the worker's hands for companies to care about "making a great product" -- no shareholder will just let you do that, as the structure doesn't allow looking at long-term gains. Apart from proven tactics like "Predatory Pricing" -- Uber, Spotify, and Unity of course.
Meta screwd up bad losing Carmack. With that said. It saddens me that Meta is the Only vr headset worth owning. VR is the future. It is. But theres so much greed and idiocy holding vr back. Pc price gauges. Sony is closed ecosystem and utterly clueless. Sad.
@@DavidOtto82Doom and Quake literally defined the FPS genre for over a decade. Prior to Call of Duty Modern Warfare going mainstream, Doom and Quake were the Gold Standard for FPS gameplay. To dismiss literally a full decade of being at the forefront of game design as "meh, quake was nice" makes you sound like you've absolutely no idea what you're on about.
@@ShuRugal i actually only played fps in that era and i really liked it ;) but to say it in other words: what did he create in the last 20 years that now makes him a big loss for a company like ocolus?
@@DavidOtto82 what, you mean aside from inventing an entire library's worth of rendering techniques and code execution optimisations? Maybe you've just never worked on a team which had a truly competent and motivated member, so perhaps you aren't aware of this, but losing someone as dedicated to his craft as John is has cascading consequences. There will be a certain number of people who follow that employee immediately. There will be more people later on who leave when the company either fails to fill his shoes with an equally competent person, or chooses to not fill the role at all and expects the remaining team members to pick up the slack. Other development leads in the industry will see this happening and start making offers to team members they want. The smart ones will see it coming and start poaching talent right away, making the initial loss hit even harder. Before long, the only people remaining on the team will be people who don't have the talent to get poached away to better positions. I've personally seen this happen half a dozen times in the Enterprise IT space in just the past five years, and not a single one of the people whose departures triggered these events would be recognizable to anyone outside the companies I worked for when it happened. It would be astonishing to me if losing as dedicated a talent as Carmack resulted in anything other than the total implosion of the team he led, purely by virtue of having watched far less well known individuals have that exact same effect.
I think Carmack is overrated. He can solve some easy problems in a pragmatic way, but not the hard ones. Quake is considered a primitive game by todays standards. And he never coded anything that exceeds this tech.
@@MorningNapalm Yeah, he was a step ahead because everything was in its infancy. Then when things got cutting edge, it clearly showed his limits, could never compete with the tech of Half-Life 2 because the advanced techniques required an academic level of understanding. At one point you will hit limits with shool math and pure intuition alone.
John carmack is a legend, meta doesn’t deserve his tech anyway.
I agree!
Thank you for sharing these stories. There’s so much value to be had in understanding what happens behind the scenes.
I am absolutely loving your content you deserve all the subscribers!
Could listen to John Carmack talk for hours on end and never be bored :D. Met him many times since the very first Quakecon, first class human being and brilliant engineer.
I agree! John is awesome! Thank you for watching!
When one of the greatest living programmer burns his bridges as he leaves the company you know you’re in trouble
Absolutely amazing videos. Just watched them all. Thanks for your insight.
Loved the Thomas Sowell quote. Truly a brilliant academic who doesn't get enough recognition.
Agreed!
"oh he just made doom and quake, and builds rockets in his back yard. His opinion isn't THAT important right Mr. Zuckerberg?"
John seems like a amazing person, deeply respect and support his Open Source nature and views. Thanks for sharing ❤
This was inevitable. The so-called "metaverse" was always destined to be a joke.
Just found your channel and I’ve watched every video. Great insights. Loving it.
Thank you!
Came here after watching your "Why Xbox Lost" video and now im getting priceless knowledge on leadership and human decency. Thank you, liked and subscribed.
Thank you!
When John Carmack isn't heard, it's truly a sad world.
His Authenticity is Bar-none and i love it!
My takeaway from what you said is that if i want to lead,
i shouldn't be focused on winning an arguement,
i should be focusing on the right thing & keeping healthy feedback.
And that letting power go to my head is a quick path to destruction.
This is difficult for me. Even though i know this in my heart, i'm in-experienced and have never lead a team.
My ego gets in the way of doing what's right sometimes,
soo it will be something i need to always learn, grow and work on.
I really appreciate your insight and if you have more advice i'm open!
I wonder if we will see AGI or closely resembles it from John Carmack's Keen Technologies startup in a decade or so. It will be nice to see him in the spotlight for something he contributed greatly again in the future.
Zuckerberg must be the most powerful of terrible leaders if he can even repel benevolent hyper-intelligent architect of the post-singularity simulation we all live in, John Carmack. Only by merging Carmack's electrons with the power of Gaben, can they become a sword... or something... that can be used to defeat Emperor Zuck if the -overweight slacker- valiant young hero who finds it can unlock its power by gathering four crystals of the elements, after Zuck... burns down his village... or shoots his puppy... or something.
I think we're doomed, there are a lot of logically unlikely dependencies in this plan...
Wow! I just found this channel. It is truly fascinating to hear your deep knowledge of the gaming industry
Insightful, valuable channel. I hope it catches on.
Shame on Meta for letting John go. They should have given him virtually everything and more to let him fly.
Masters Of Doom was an amazing book. Carmack is simply built different.
Carmack is one of a kind. Thank you for watching!
Great video. The dude at 9:28 was not even going to touch Carmack, but Carmack touched him first. Such a cool guy
oops, i meant to say Carmack will be on Romero's twitch stream on the 10th of December at 8pm GMT.(in a previous comment i said Nov 10)
Thank you for pointing this out!
Wow, that was a fantastic introduction.
The “Johntourage.” 😂😂😂
I am the classic engineer that blames all problems on management, but it is refreshing and inspiring to hear the point of view from someone that has had your incredible experience as a manager. Your mentions about how culture and feedback loops are crucial to healthy products is a perspective I never considered before. Thanks, and subscribed!
Thank you for the sub!
John Carmark is also a really great inspiration for me. His work at Id Software has followed me since the first time I sat in front of a computer. the IdTech engine is pure raw genius and performance. Really admirable.
That's also why I was very nervous when he joined Oculus, that was owned by Meta. I didn't believe it was the right place for him, but that was for him to decide, not me.
Carmack eventually left, probably because Meta didn't align with his way of wokring, and that he didn't get the freedom he needs, for his miracles to happen.
Carmack isn't just a cog in a machine.... he IS the machine!
Thank you for sharing your story! Carmack is inspiring!
Your channel is amazing, thank you!
Thanks for sharing your insight Laura
Thomas sowell quote thrown in there rules, unexpected fusion
Snakes dislike titans.
i think he quit because he aint havin none of that intrusion into our privacy stuff they probably demanded him to go along with
Facebook has been intrusive for years and years, this is nothing new. I guess it got to the point where the good didn't outweigh the bad any more.
Thank you for such awesome video
John Carmack is an amazing human being. We need more engineers like him leading things. Industry is fully of business people who are busy climbing the corporate ladder with fake-it-make-it nepotism back-scratching-friends mentality. Completely fake.
The closest comparison I can think of to John Carmack is Gene Kranz, a hard-nosed, straight-talking scientist who also knows how to inspire his people to do the impossible, but most important of all cares about what he does and the people who do it with him.
We badly need to get you a new microphone and EQ settings that will better match the quality of your videos 💜
Actually it seems like a lot of your recorded voice audio has bad quality.
It's not unbearable constantly, but it sounds like its blown out often.
Love your videos!!!!
These are great Laura!
Just subscribed, new fan, love your insight and videos
What a gem of a human being.
I couldn't agree more! Thank you for stopping by!
He is going to make great strides working in AI with Dr. Sutton he is such an amazing and sweet guy and his love for seeing what other people create and show him is amazing.
Thanks for this video.
Thank you for watching!
way too many people tie their entire ego to their work and let it blind them
I though he had already left over a year ago
They have to stop forcing Meta to happen, it failed.
You deserve more views.
I would storyboard your edits and visuals before you execute. I think this would add polish.
I also recommend a new microphone and some noise reduction panels for better audio.
Finally, I recommend splitting up your videos addressing the different topics with a visual that shows what you are currently talking about.
I highly respect you and your videos. I hope these minor tweaks will improve your viewer count.
I recommend:
John Micheal goiter (he has a way of building a cult following)
Leeja d - she has great law videos that are masterfully edited and has a RUclips mentorship platform that may help you springboard to success.
Please, *please* fix your mic sound. It's distorted.
Now he can get back to id.
lol
I'd love that to happen but can't actually see it happening.
There is not really any id left despite the name.
The new team seems great but it's mostly a great team sailing under the flag of a company that once was. It's as if your favorite band was changed so much that only one person from the original lineup is left and they sound totally different. Maybe still good but definitely not the same any more.
I still believe that the best Xbox console was the 360. It has great games (Gear of Wars, Mass Effect, etc) but also the console was Apple quality. It was recognizable. I am a AAA game dev, and at that time I was working on a Prince of Persia game. I was lead Engine. But boy the fun I had with that console, PIX, debugging tools, the XDK, everything was great. You could also write a C# app using the XDK library. Amazon product. Now Xbox is only a shadow of themselves, developping on XSX and SXS is just a pain. I am now a Playstation Fan, they have great hardware, the development on these consoles are just as fun as on the 360. They also have great games (Spiderman, GOW, Horizon West, Ghost of Tsushima, etc). It is a shame that Xbox has come so low. Anyways, that all i got for today. A+
Thanks for your perspective! I agree that PIX was awesome.
Agree, I own both XBox 360 and PS3, and the XBox got all my time. In the 4th generation, Microsoft made so many mistakes and never fixed them, and they have lost me for good.
Great Video :D
Awesome!
I've watched about 20 of your videos now and I'm seeing a pattern emerging. Always take John Carmack's opinion seriously.
It's always strange to hear the moral considerations of "great leaders" instead of an introspection on inevitable systemic issues of companies under capitalism, especially tech companies. He's absolutely a rarity, but he shouldn't be. He's so great he transcended the politics for so long; an absolute overkill of a human, first and foremost true to the craft and its benefits for society -- and still he wasn't enough of a driving force. Makes you think.
When the first priority of a business is "make money", it will eventually fold up under the gravitational force of its own navel gazing. The only question is how much damage it will do along the way.
When the first priority of a business is "making a great product" or "providing a great service", then "making money" is something which will happen as a natural result of succeeding at the primary goal.
@@ShuRugal Very hard to do with over-corporatized capitalism that produces companies too big to even function for anything other than "making money".
This is nothing new. It'll get worse over time in the tech sector. Unity, Cyberpunk -- great people with a lot of passion worked on these products, and yet they were a predictable trainwreck that was in slow decline for years. Anyone on the inside could tell you that things are provably gonna be bad sooner or later and the users will suffer greatly.
In tech, there is nowhere near enough power in the worker's hands for companies to care about "making a great product" -- no shareholder will just let you do that, as the structure doesn't allow looking at long-term gains. Apart from proven tactics like "Predatory Pricing" -- Uber, Spotify, and Unity of course.
Carmack is a genius engineer. Not a genius leader.
Meta screwd up bad losing Carmack. With that said. It saddens me that Meta is the Only vr headset worth owning. VR is the future. It is. But theres so much greed and idiocy holding vr back. Pc price gauges. Sony is closed ecosystem and utterly clueless.
Sad.
I agree that VR is the future! Thank you for sharing your perspective!
I do wonder what happened though with idTech 5. Wasn't good at all... Kind of an anomaly in Carmack's career.
Forgive my child like behaviour if at all possible,
But lol Im the 69th comment and this is almost 420 views, lets make it happen XD
a dramatic video about a guy who worked at Ocolus from 2013 to 2019?
A video about a company throwing away the talent of one of the men who shaped the PC gaming industry.
@@ShuRugal meh...quake was nice
@@DavidOtto82Doom and Quake literally defined the FPS genre for over a decade. Prior to Call of Duty Modern Warfare going mainstream, Doom and Quake were the Gold Standard for FPS gameplay.
To dismiss literally a full decade of being at the forefront of game design as "meh, quake was nice" makes you sound like you've absolutely no idea what you're on about.
@@ShuRugal i actually only played fps in that era and i really liked it ;) but to say it in other words: what did he create in the last 20 years that now makes him a big loss for a company like ocolus?
@@DavidOtto82 what, you mean aside from inventing an entire library's worth of rendering techniques and code execution optimisations?
Maybe you've just never worked on a team which had a truly competent and motivated member, so perhaps you aren't aware of this, but losing someone as dedicated to his craft as John is has cascading consequences. There will be a certain number of people who follow that employee immediately.
There will be more people later on who leave when the company either fails to fill his shoes with an equally competent person, or chooses to not fill the role at all and expects the remaining team members to pick up the slack. Other development leads in the industry will see this happening and start making offers to team members they want. The smart ones will see it coming and start poaching talent right away, making the initial loss hit even harder. Before long, the only people remaining on the team will be people who don't have the talent to get poached away to better positions.
I've personally seen this happen half a dozen times in the Enterprise IT space in just the past five years, and not a single one of the people whose departures triggered these events would be recognizable to anyone outside the companies I worked for when it happened. It would be astonishing to me if losing as dedicated a talent as Carmack resulted in anything other than the total implosion of the team he led, purely by virtue of having watched far less well known individuals have that exact same effect.
jew love to see it
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jew and me both!
I think Carmack is overrated. He can solve some easy problems in a pragmatic way, but not the hard ones. Quake is considered a primitive game by todays standards. And he never coded anything that exceeds this tech.
What game beyond that complexity can really be coded from scratch entirely by one person?
@@spht9ng That's not relevant to the argument. But he only coded the engine part.
This sounds like saying the Egyptians were overrated because they only made pyramids instead of skyscrapers made today
Some serious 20/20 going on. Go back and look at things from the perspective of the times, and he was always one step ahead, on the cutting edge.
@@MorningNapalm Yeah, he was a step ahead because everything was in its infancy. Then when things got cutting edge, it clearly showed his limits, could never compete with the tech of Half-Life 2 because the advanced techniques required an academic level of understanding. At one point you will hit limits with shool math and pure intuition alone.