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@@mohamaddwikydharmawan5256 but from the perspective of a fan that’s new to the books, movies, and lore, this channel holds the listeners attention better because it’s simple and doesn’t go into great detail like other comprehensive channels. But you are right that those channels do go deeper and are really entertaining and well done. I just think this guys content is aimed at a broader audience
@pyropulse the silmamemelion reads like a damn textbook. for a 400 page book, it takes a hell of a lot of effort to digest, and i'm sure i've missed a couple of things after i read it the first time. not everyone can real the silmamemelion because it's written so - "biblically".
I honestly didn't find it that bad after tackling the lord of the rings and the hobbit. I found his descriptions for the creation of the world to be extremely beautiful. There were some moments that dragged but from the start I was hooked
Notice how the different songs sung by the Ainur represented the 4 ages of middle-earth, and how the ways Melkor interrupted the songs dictated in which ways the ages enemies would operate.
Ah, but there is far more time in middle earth than the four ages. First was the creation of unknow time, and the war fought just after it. Then there was the first paradise of the Valar, with the two great lamps, their destruction and the marring of that world and the breaking of the land, another period of unknown time. Then came the age of Valinor and the two trees, when the Valar waited for the arrival of the Elves, which took a great time. The Elves eventually arrived, Melkor was imprisoned, and some of the elves came to Valinor. Melkor remained imprisoned for three more ages. Then Melkor was set free and the next age began around this time, and that age was called the First Age, then came the Second, the Third, and the Fourth. It is not know if there are more ages, for yet the end of the world is far away at the end of Tolkens work. I believe that all the songs overlapped to some extent, the first song certainly is the creation of Arda, and the struggles there in, but it has the creation of the Elves within. The last song, more a cord, may be the arrival of Man, who is given the gift of Man and is not bound to Arda. Therefore the songs patch together creation, one an attempt to fix another, with a final twist for the outcome to be as Iluvitar desired. Sadly we may never truly know because only Tolkien can answer all the questions we have with any certainty, and even he molded and changed the underlying foundations of his world several times, and probably had more wonderful thoughts in his mind that remained unwritten.
As others said, it is much more likely that these themes are not the ages as there is more than one age. But if you note the first theme seems to be the creation of the world, but there are only three times after this we know Illuvitar directly added to the story of the world: the awakening of the elves, the awakening of Men, and the reshaping of Earth. It seems to me that it is most likely each of the new themes introduced are the children of Illuvitar entering the stage, with the second theme being the elves and the third theme being men. All four themes would coalesce in the ages to make the story we know.
I'm a bit late but if you're still wondering, no, he didn't. He stated what would be a book about the world of men, how the scar Melkor left in their spirit would never heal and they would forever be at risk of being corrupted but after several rewrites, he scrapped the idea, disenhearted with the stark difference between what would've been the fourth age and what his works had been up until then
I won't watch that stuff. I had Star Wars ruined by modern film makers already. The Hobbit was a good stab at ruining LotR as well... I won't let them!
@@comradechenkov6569 I've heard people say Numenor is on the map they posted so the series will take place during the Second Age, it may be focused around the creation of the rings.
@@DennisOfDragons Indeed, Melkor and Tolkiens darker creatures has inspired a great deal of metal bands, In particular many Black-metal bands. He fits very well into the genre.
The contrary. Aggressive, loud, endlessly repetitive 1:45 - No jazz man. He was the tightbrow who never learned what's the freedom in jazz. More like he couldn't play any instruments himself, but once he learned there are machines that can be used to make music, he used these machines to make hypnotic endlessly repetitive rhythm music void of soul and meaning in them, except possessive slavery.
And thus, the echoes of ancient conflict can still be heard today, as each new generation arises, the eternal words from parent to child can be heard: "How can you listen to that crap?"
_aggressive text to speech voice_ "for fucks sake -horus- melkor, stop that emo teenager punk rock bullshit, i'm sick and tired of your hormones, go back to bed"
Its actually stated that after the creation of trees and plants, Yavana pleaded Eru to create the Ents to protect them from the soon to be created 1st and 2nd children. This makes the Ents the 1st and oldest living creatures of Arda and also makes Treebeard the oldest living being of Arda.
Tom bombadil is older, but he ins't a creature, but an spirit. Creature = any being born with biological basis. As for Treebeard. he also ins't the oldest living creature. He himself says there were evil trees in Fangorn older than him.
Treebeard also states that entwives existed before they moved to the East. Arguably there were many generations of Ents between their creation and treebearda birth
So in summation: Melkor is that one emo kid who refuses to sing with the rest of the class and instead writes his own songs that he tries to shout over everyone else's singing
@@hastekulvaati9681 Thing is Melkor's goal for questioning came out of selfish desires rather than a legitimate interest in helping and he did what he did without asking or any sort of compromiset. Plus he didn't stop to question why he started going on on such a greedy and violent path, he questioned that didn't need to be questioned and refused to question that which should have.
Not all the time, but they certainly can be. Selfishness can wreck a lot of things and make one paranoid with perfectly good people and functional systems. “Thing is Melkor's goal for questioning came out of selfish desires rather than a legitimate interest in helping and he did what he did without asking or any sort of compromise” Also his desire to question was also guided by impatience and arrogance. Melkor was not interested in answers, he just wanted more at her expense of others. He was never told not to question it, there was just nothing wrong with Eru’s plans and ways, which was the fairly obvious answer to “why should I do what you tell me”
The best explanation I've ever seen for this time period. There's just so much information and so many have tried to encapsulate it but you have done it really really well - and the maps are a great help.
I read the Simarillion last year, watched the recapitulative videos after each chapter but I am still (re)learning many details of this world, its stories and characters, so intricate and rich Tolkien's creation is; this, even after I went through Greek, Roman, Gallic, English and Norse mythology from which he took inspiration.
When the races first awoke; Dwarf: " _Aach, back so stiff. Nice to stretch a bit._ " Valar: " _Guaah?! You're so ugly! GO BACK TO SLEEP!_ " Elves: " _We are the first race to awaken..!_ " Valar: " _Yeaah, Fiiiirst that's right!_ " Later; Ungoliant: " _I'm hungry! Gimmie those Silmarils!_ " Melkor: " _You had your fill! You can't have these!_ " Ungoliant: " _Fine. Ii'll just eat YOU TOO then!_ " Melkor " _Help, HEEEELP! I'm being consumed by a giant spider!_ "
Men: _"What?! How come every else got to wake up first and have longer lives?"_ Valar: _"Hey, you could've been kidnapped by Melkor. Also, you missed a whole bunch of shit that went down, so I kinda think you'll be fine."_
This is absolutely marvellous! In my mind Helcaraxe always was an ice field, somewhat like the Greenland ice sheet :-) But cold mountains work too I guess.
@@davidpepin6443 "I cordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and always have done so since I grew old and wary enough to detect its presence." -J.R.R Tolkien Tolkien is inspired by his beliefs and life. Allegory is intentional. Tolkien never intended to represent real life things, events in his books. It seems it is allegorical because his imagination of a fantastic world can only differ as much from the real one. I hope my english doesn't suck.
My friend doubted the ingenuity of this lore’s depth. Just from your videos, I was able to explain Tolkien’s epicness to my friend. I did it why recording so I was wondering if like to listen to it. Your hard work has it own legacy. Anyways, respond if you want me to send you the audio file. If not, just keep doing what you are doing. You are bringing in a new generation. You have sold Books for Tolkien and that’s beautiful.
11:28 Just for context if anyone didn't knew thraundil comes from Sindar father of legolas and tauriel is Silvan from nandor also galadriel is from ñoldor half vanyar also elrond if I remember correctly
Honestly, your video is very good, clear and precise. Regardless how simple your animation is but your story is well explained, and made whoever watches this will understand the Middle-Earth lore even better. I really hope that your map of middle-Earth is canon and true to the lore, because I've been searching high and low for the complete map for Middle-Earth and sadly I didn't find any except for the small portion around Gondor and Mordor. I really want to know how The Undying Lands looks like but on second thought maybe it's on another planet as it's different realm. Anyway love your work and keep it up. Speaking of map, while searching for the map for Middle-Earth it made me realized why there's so much empty lands with no inhabitants as if nobody bothers to build a civilization on the free empty land (especially on the far east side of the land and far south too). Like can't any kingdom expand their colony or is it it's simply too hazardous to do so? If you think about it, it's already in the forth age meaning thousands of years already passed by, don't tell me the population is still the same hahahaha. Why though?
There are kingdoms in the south and east, they just don't feature much in Tolkien's works (being under the domination of Morgoth and Sauron after him).
You know that J.R.R. Tolkien was a Roman Catholic. He once stated that his Legendarium (specifically The Lord of the Rings trilogy) is a religious and Catholic work. So, what Tolkien basically did here, is take the Christian story and made it his own, or he added Christian elements into his work. He once argued that since Jehovah (the God the Bible) is a creator, and he created man in his own image, and man can also create things, that make man sub-creators. As an atheist, I find this mind-blowing. Any questions?
I’m currently listening to the audio book for the Silmarillion, and this will be helpful to come back to once I finish! Thanks so much for making these videos, they’re awesome and make me a lot less confused lmao Edit: I just finished the Silmarillion and I plan to watch all your videos to recap what I just read! Even though the story and lore was marvelous, it was a lot to take in, and watching your summery videos will help me make sense of it all. Thanks again! :D
“All actions, even those thought different and unique have their foundation in me and only serve to contribute to my plan” *me when my teenage child rebels*
05:40 In Serbian language, VARDA is an old archaic word for a "keeper" or a "guardian". During the ancient period, there was a tribe called Vardi (or Ardi in Ancient Greek), that ruled the areas of what today is Eastern Herzegovina, Montenegro and Northern Albania. Today there are Varda mountain, located on the border between Serbia and Bosnia and Herzegovina, a little town called Vardiste, and a village called Varda (in the Kosjeric county). Some local families's last names is also Varda.
compare to nerd of the rings channel,, your channel is more straight to the point,,, and perfect for a new fans like me.. that want to know the history of tolkien universe but with simple explaination
Point of correction: it was Yavanna, goddess of life, not Varda, that gave birth to the Two Trees. Varda would take the pooled light of Telperion to create the stars, thus the Elves ever-love of Telperion and anything silver.
13:16 A primordial evil in the form of a spider...looks like Pennywise is also a part of the Lord of the Rings lore
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Some Elf: Grandfather, how did the world start? Grandfather Elf: Well, young one, let me ask what you think: Did it start with the Creator's words or a great battle? Rando Elf Again: Umm.. a great battle? This Fucking Pointy-Eared Geezer: Nah, mate, it was angels having a rap battle.
Actually some Russian author had wrote this. And Siliamrillion is written from supposedly objective point of view of what happened, Tolkien wasn't the winner of battles, he's an author. He judges which Side was good and which bad, but there isn't a possibility of "Tolkien lied, in reality Melkor killed nobody and... And it was Manwe who created Angband!" because Tolkien created this reality and just describes it in Siliamrillion.
there is so much in common between melkor and Satan. just like Lucifer,Melkor was rebellious toward Eru(God). and another similarity,Melkor nor Satan can truly Create life,they can only corrupt what already is.
It is and isn’t the point. While Tolkien was a catholic and there’s a ton of Christina mythos mixed in (the father, son and Holy Spirit aka Frodo, Aragorn and Gandalf all being representations of Jesus) it’s debated on how much Tolkien intended. Records and letters stated he didn’t want this to be allegory. I think his subconscious mixed these in
BaSsGaZ I agree! If it was done right, this would be some seriously epic stuff! However, there’s so much material it would be impossible to adapt it right, so “fans” would just complain about anything/everything any company did lol
@@quantumgravity92 they're only doing the second age, the Tolkien estate will not sell the rights to the first age. Plus there are fears they're gonna go woke with what they are doing.
RUclips, you need to make a system for liking more than just like videos. Some channels are worth special recognition and civilizationEX Is definitely one of them so I guess I gotta still make comments until you give this to me more often on the algorithm
Missed a chance for one of the greatest "Husband doesn't know how to shut up" line in literature. "Nonetheless they will have need of wood" said Aule, and he went on with his smith-work. I can only assume his next project was the creation of the couch to sleep on.
Strange things happen with Feanor host: - why Falamari refused to sail their brothers to Middle Earth? (and protect those ships to the very death?) - why Feanor burn the ships, instead of increasing his battlestrenght by brother forces?
Based on the Silmarillion: - The Noldor were going against the advice of the Valar in going to Middle Earth; the Teleri didn't want to act against the wishes of the Valar. They also didn't want to sail back to Middle Earth themselves (there had already been indications that those who went would be unable to return) and didn't want to give the ships away (as they were their greatest creations, and they valued them nearly as highly as Feanor valued the Silmarils). They also hoped that making it impractical to get to Middle Earth would get Feanor to reconsider his foolish plan. Instead, Feanor tried to take the ships by force, and things escalated from there. (Also, for the record, the Teleri weren't brothers of the Noldor, except in the broadest sense - they'd been following different ambassadors to Valinor. Admittedly there had been a decent amount of intermarriage in the ages since, but still.) - Fingolfin hadn't been at all convinced of the wisdom of Feanor's plan, and basically only came along because a lot of his followers and family had been convinced by Feanor and he didn't want to abandon them. By the time of the incident with the ships, things hadn't been going too well (what with the Kinslaying and the Curse of Mandos) and a lot of Fingolfin's followers were beginning to think he'd been right all along and were listening to him more than Feanor. Feanor, who by this point had become rather unhinged, decided that he didn't want or need their assistance if they weren't going to obey him unquestioningly, and that he'd rather abandon them on the borders of Valinor.
Still ,without doubt ,the greatest of Creation stories.The Silmarillien blew my pre-teen mind 40 years ago, and nothing has come close in sheer magic and mystery.While I enjoyed all LOTR films,they pale in comparison to what I visualized in my mind.If I had formed a Metal band,my band would have been called "THE PITS OF UTUMNO".Has there been a band with that name?
@Gregor Eisenhorn Same dude. As a metalhead, I hate it when people say that Melkor's discord against the Music of the Ainur was equivalent to that of metal against classical music. I prefer to think of it as black metal against symphonic/power metal.
The simillarrion goes deeper into the tale of Tolkien’s hobbit and lord of the rings. I’d love to see a film or television program about this as technology in film moves further
Unfortunately i'm not sure if we'll ever get that. Tolkien's estate are famously protective and they've stated on more than one occasion anything First age or before is strictly off limits. That's why rings of power were so vague in their prologue of events leading up they are walking a fine line of what they can do, i'm surprised they could even mention morgoth tbh
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First Age to War of Wrath and The Aftermath before The Second Age.
U gotta do a memory sorrow and thorn
Its highly to point out that a battle with Valars always comes with a price that can completely reshaped an entire continents.
If you’re wondering. This is the best version on youtube. This guy understands tone and pacing
I dissagree. For a better LOTR lore channel you must see nerd of the rings and men of the west
@@mohamaddwikydharmawan5256 why be so disrespectful tho 😂😂 this guy is amazing
@@mohamaddwikydharmawan5256 but from the perspective of a fan that’s new to the books, movies, and lore, this channel holds the listeners attention better because it’s simple and doesn’t go into great detail like other comprehensive channels. But you are right that those channels do go deeper and are really entertaining and well done. I just think this guys content is aimed at a broader audience
CivilizationEx does have a good pace and tone for his videos
Couldn’t agree more
Finally, someone who could explain this in a way that doesn't make it sound overly complicated, and the illustrations helped exponentially
pyropulse lmao
@pyropulse the silmamemelion reads like a damn textbook. for a 400 page book, it takes a hell of a lot of effort to digest, and i'm sure i've missed a couple of things after i read it the first time. not everyone can real the silmamemelion because it's written so - "biblically".
I honestly didn't find it that bad after tackling the lord of the rings and the hobbit. I found his descriptions for the creation of the world to be extremely beautiful. There were some moments that dragged but from the start I was hooked
@@theretrogamer14 Thats the spirit.
Melkor: pass the aux cord
Eru: dont play trash
melkor:
Nickeback
@@Jon-pw2ik If it was Nickelback it wouldn't have been a problem. Was probably hardcore/style of something.
Melkor: fine I brought my own speaker anyway
This is beautiful
I got it to 666 likes 😎
Notice how the different songs sung by the Ainur represented the 4 ages of middle-earth, and how the ways Melkor interrupted the songs dictated in which ways the ages enemies would operate.
huh, nice observation
Ah, but there is far more time in middle earth than the four ages. First was the creation of unknow time, and the war fought just after it. Then there was the first paradise of the Valar, with the two great lamps, their destruction and the marring of that world and the breaking of the land, another period of unknown time. Then came the age of Valinor and the two trees, when the Valar waited for the arrival of the Elves, which took a great time. The Elves eventually arrived, Melkor was imprisoned, and some of the elves came to Valinor. Melkor remained imprisoned for three more ages. Then Melkor was set free and the next age began around this time, and that age was called the First Age, then came the Second, the Third, and the Fourth. It is not know if there are more ages, for yet the end of the world is far away at the end of Tolkens work.
I believe that all the songs overlapped to some extent, the first song certainly is the creation of Arda, and the struggles there in, but it has the creation of the Elves within. The last song, more a cord, may be the arrival of Man, who is given the gift of Man and is not bound to Arda. Therefore the songs patch together creation, one an attempt to fix another, with a final twist for the outcome to be as Iluvitar desired. Sadly we may never truly know because only Tolkien can answer all the questions we have with any certainty, and even he molded and changed the underlying foundations of his world several times, and probably had more wonderful thoughts in his mind that remained unwritten.
As others said, it is much more likely that these themes are not the ages as there is more than one age. But if you note the first theme seems to be the creation of the world, but there are only three times after this we know Illuvitar directly added to the story of the world: the awakening of the elves, the awakening of Men, and the reshaping of Earth. It seems to me that it is most likely each of the new themes introduced are the children of Illuvitar entering the stage, with the second theme being the elves and the third theme being men. All four themes would coalesce in the ages to make the story we know.
Did Tolkien ever finish the 4th age?
I'm a bit late but if you're still wondering, no, he didn't. He stated what would be a book about the world of men, how the scar Melkor left in their spirit would never heal and they would forever be at risk of being corrupted but after several rewrites, he scrapped the idea, disenhearted with the stark difference between what would've been the fourth age and what his works had been up until then
IMO It should be mandatory for every man working on the new lotr amazon series to watch this video.
lolv xdd doubt it. They will milk it for as much money as possible
I won't watch that stuff. I had Star Wars ruined by modern film makers already. The Hobbit was a good stab at ruining LotR as well... I won't let them!
What???? Amazon doing WHAT?????
It's a show about a young Aragorn. So they basically said fuck all the lore lets make a shit series of no relevance.
@@comradechenkov6569 I've heard people say Numenor is on the map they posted so the series will take place during the Second Age, it may be focused around the creation of the rings.
Eru is just trying to enjoy his classical music while Melkor just bursts in playing Death metal
So then both just turn up the volume until the neighbor Gods knock and tell them to turn it down
No, not classical music. "Aggressive, loud, and endlessly repetitive". It was Techno.
I wondered how far I would need to scroll down before finding this comment, I knew someone was gonna say it 😂
@@SaulOhio Melkor's song was the aggressive, loud, and endlessly repetitive one.
@@learncat8771 Which is why I compared it to Techno.
The First Epic Rap battle of history.
that was too perfect
Eru vs Melkor!
WHO WON?
WHO'S NEXT?
@@FlagAnthem You decide!
@@mutantboy1948 Epic rap battles of history
Melkor was a jazz musician among classical musicians 😂
Sounds to me more like a metal musician :P
Jazz metal
@@DennisOfDragons Indeed, Melkor and Tolkiens darker creatures has inspired a great deal of metal bands, In particular many Black-metal bands. He fits very well into the genre.
Biodigital Jazz, man
The contrary. Aggressive, loud, endlessly repetitive 1:45
- No jazz man. He was the tightbrow who never learned what's the freedom in jazz.
More like he couldn't play any instruments himself, but once he learned there are machines that can be used to make music, he used these machines to make hypnotic endlessly repetitive rhythm music void of soul and meaning in them, except possessive slavery.
And thus, the echoes of ancient conflict can still be heard today, as each new generation arises, the eternal words from parent to child can be heard: "How can you listen to that crap?"
underrated comment
That right there really needs to be on a t shirt or something ....
_aggressive text to speech voice_
"for fucks sake -horus- melkor, stop that emo teenager punk rock bullshit, i'm sick and tired of your hormones, go back to bed"
@@1estel1ch.42 Ah, I see a fellow person of culture.
this background music is so damn relaxing. Works perfectly with your informing video styles.
The accent of this guy when he pronounces Elvish names is *E P I C*
You got it
@pyropulse you wanna die? such insolence!
@pyropulse Can you elaborate? what do you mean it is wrong?
or ridiculous, depending
@pyropulse is your name Bartleby?
Its actually stated that after the creation of trees and plants, Yavana pleaded Eru to create the Ents to protect them from the soon to be created 1st and 2nd children. This makes the Ents the 1st and oldest living creatures of Arda and also makes Treebeard the oldest living being of Arda.
yep tom is older than the first acorn
@@CrookedCrow66 can you explain please? I don't remember reading that in the Silmarillion
Tom bombadil is older, but he ins't a creature, but an spirit. Creature = any being born with biological basis.
As for Treebeard. he also ins't the oldest living creature. He himself says there were evil trees in Fangorn older than him.
Bombadil is a special case. He's just there. And he is the oldest.
Treebeard also states that entwives existed before they moved to the East.
Arguably there were many generations of Ents between their creation and treebearda birth
how the universe was made
DJ battle
Equinox EDM epic rap battle
So in summation: Melkor is that one emo kid who refuses to sing with the rest of the class and instead writes his own songs that he tries to shout over everyone else's singing
What in the hell kind of school did you go? Lol
And when recess comes all he does is sulk with the other emo kids on the far edge of the playground and think up edgy insults to hurl at other kids.
James.T .Adams he’s also the Mel edgy kid who found a gun. Oh no
@@hastekulvaati9681 Thing is Melkor's goal for questioning came out of selfish desires rather than a legitimate interest in helping and he did what he did without asking or any sort of compromiset. Plus he didn't stop to question why he started going on on such a greedy and violent path, he questioned that didn't need to be questioned and refused to question that which should have.
Not all the time, but they certainly can be. Selfishness can wreck a lot of things and make one paranoid with perfectly good people and functional systems.
“Thing is Melkor's goal for questioning came out of selfish desires rather than a legitimate interest in helping and he did what he did without asking or any sort of compromise”
Also his desire to question was also guided by impatience and arrogance. Melkor was not interested in answers, he just wanted more at her expense of others.
He was never told not to question it, there was just nothing wrong with Eru’s plans and ways, which was the fairly obvious answer to “why should I do what you tell me”
Finally someone who cares about pronunciation. I salute you.
The best explanation I've ever seen for this time period. There's just so much information and so many have tried to encapsulate it but you have done it really really well - and the maps are a great help.
playing Third Age Total War while watching yours videos is the best
Same here.
Same love this soundtrack and the eldar soundtrack on here
@@jjtay97able
Did you just mention the eldar?
I read the Simarillion last year, watched the recapitulative videos after each chapter but I am still (re)learning many details of this world, its stories and characters, so intricate and rich Tolkien's creation is; this, even after I went through Greek, Roman, Gallic, English and Norse mythology from which he took inspiration.
When the races first awoke;
Dwarf: " _Aach, back so stiff. Nice to stretch a bit._ "
Valar: " _Guaah?! You're so ugly! GO BACK TO SLEEP!_ "
Elves: " _We are the first race to awaken..!_ "
Valar: " _Yeaah, Fiiiirst that's right!_ "
Later;
Ungoliant: " _I'm hungry! Gimmie those Silmarils!_ "
Melkor: " _You had your fill! You can't have these!_ "
Ungoliant: " _Fine. Ii'll just eat YOU TOO then!_ "
Melkor " _Help, HEEEELP! I'm being consumed by a giant spider!_ "
Zeithri underrated comment 😂
Men: _"What?! How come every else got to wake up first and have longer lives?"_
Valar: _"Hey, you could've been kidnapped by Melkor. Also, you missed a whole bunch of shit that went down, so I kinda think you'll be fine."_
7:30
His Wife was Nessa, the Dancer
_OF HOUSE BARATHEON_
Bow ya shits!
GoT is terrible.
Stannis the Mannis of the house Baratheonis
This is absolutely marvellous! In my mind Helcaraxe always was an ice field, somewhat like the Greenland ice sheet :-) But cold mountains work too I guess.
Jesus, I knew Gandalf was old but dayum!
just wanna emphasize here, when ungoliant made melkor scream he screamed so loud that he Awoke his Balrogs Several Miles Away In A Fortress
To be fair, I think I would also scream this loudly if a giant spider was trying to eat me.
@@MrAlexkyra I scream that loud when I see a normal spider
@@EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal don't move to Australia
@@MrAlexkyra I know
Absolutely fantastic mate. By my beard, I love the Silmarillion.
If you love Tolkien. Read the Lay of Leithian. It is a beautiful poem he wrote about Beren and Lúthien.
I don't think people truly understand how much of Tolkien's work is an allegory for Biblical stories.
Agreed. He also used a lot of references to the ww1 which he was a soldier. Tolkien's writing goes so very deep.
@@davidpepin6443 "I cordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and always have done so since I grew old and wary enough to detect its presence." -J.R.R Tolkien
Tolkien is inspired by his beliefs and life. Allegory is intentional. Tolkien never intended to represent real life things, events in his books. It seems it is allegorical because his imagination of a fantastic world can only differ as much from the real one.
I hope my english doesn't suck.
also don't use the word allegory, Tolkien explicitly said that he hated allegory especially in this case, his books
I can tell Sauron reminds me of Satan and Gandalf as Michael the archangel.
@@ThespeedrapThis Manoe is the archangel of Tolkien's world
CivEx probably lives in the timeless halls
This is the best channel ever, anywhere. I can't tell you how much this all is appreciated.
Nice job Civ. Looking forward to the rest of the remasters :)
CivilizationEx is my bedtime story reader.
All of these videos are awesome! Have you thought of doing a segment on famous weapons/armor/magic items?
I love how unique the idea of ”the Ainulindale” is/was. Great job on the video as always
I like how Melkor floats around, looking for stuff. Hahaha
My friend doubted the ingenuity of this lore’s depth. Just from your videos, I was able to explain Tolkien’s epicness to my friend. I did it why recording so I was wondering if like to listen to it. Your hard work has it own legacy. Anyways, respond if you want me to send you the audio file. If not, just keep doing what you are doing. You are bringing in a new generation. You have sold Books for Tolkien and that’s beautiful.
Truly beautiful, you do the Professor proud.
The kinslaying happened at Alqualonde, not Tol Eressea
11:28 Just for context if anyone didn't knew thraundil comes from Sindar father of legolas and tauriel is Silvan from nandor also galadriel is from ñoldor half vanyar also elrond if I remember correctly
Man I never been exposed to so much content so fast and still understand what I'm being exposed to, amazing channel!
Honestly, your video is very good, clear and precise. Regardless how simple your animation is but your story is well explained, and made whoever watches this will understand the Middle-Earth lore even better.
I really hope that your map of middle-Earth is canon and true to the lore, because I've been searching high and low for the complete map for Middle-Earth and sadly I didn't find any except for the small portion around Gondor and Mordor. I really want to know how The Undying Lands looks like but on second thought maybe it's on another planet as it's different realm.
Anyway love your work and keep it up.
Speaking of map, while searching for the map for Middle-Earth it made me realized why there's so much empty lands with no inhabitants as if nobody bothers to build a civilization on the free empty land (especially on the far east side of the land and far south too). Like can't any kingdom expand their colony or is it it's simply too hazardous to do so? If you think about it, it's already in the forth age meaning thousands of years already passed by, don't tell me the population is still the same hahahaha.
Why though?
Check out Kathryn Wynn Fonstad's Atlas of Middle-earth. She has some of the best maps.
There are kingdoms in the south and east, they just don't feature much in Tolkien's works (being under the domination of Morgoth and Sauron after him).
Love the music choice in this one.
I like the simplicity of this video and that the names are given to help with recall of who is who and what they are. Thank you.
You know that J.R.R. Tolkien was a Roman Catholic. He once stated that his Legendarium (specifically The Lord of the Rings trilogy) is a religious and Catholic work. So, what Tolkien basically did here, is take the Christian story and made it his own, or he added Christian elements into his work. He once argued that since Jehovah (the God the Bible) is a creator, and he created man in his own image, and man can also create things, that make man sub-creators. As an atheist, I find this mind-blowing. Any questions?
I’m currently listening to the audio book for the Silmarillion, and this will be helpful to come back to once I finish! Thanks so much for making these videos, they’re awesome and make me a lot less confused lmao
Edit: I just finished the Silmarillion and I plan to watch all your videos to recap what I just read! Even though the story and lore was marvelous, it was a lot to take in, and watching your summery videos will help me make sense of it all. Thanks again! :D
I bought the cassette tapes audio book of it or comes in 5 parts I got 3 and the remaining 2 have been lost in the mail for 4 years
Wow this is fantastic work ! just discovered your channel and it rocks !
Man this is probably the best LotR lore videos I have seen yet! I have learned so much. Thank you!
i did read the silmarillion two times, but i still learned new stuff from you. god bless you, man! live long and prosper!
Thank you. This channel is new to me, and I appreciate your clarity and pictographs.
Eru dropped the mike. Wonderful videos. Thanks for sharing.
Finally, an illustration that I can understand easily. Thank you.
Way to go man, you made this all super simple, and easy to follow. Really enjoyed your video, great work!
I swear, Civilization Ex is so great
Gandalfs battle with the balrog just got so much more epic
Melkor just wanted to sing, but noooo!
It all has to be like the all powerful guy says!
Melkor's singing was part of Eru's plan. So really he did what he was supposed to
“All actions, even those thought different and unique have their foundation in me and only serve to contribute to my plan”
*me when my teenage child rebels*
Unless they gain the courage to end it. I tried when I was a teenager, but got caught.
05:40 In Serbian language, VARDA is an old archaic word for a "keeper" or a "guardian".
During the ancient period, there was a tribe called Vardi (or Ardi in Ancient Greek), that ruled the areas of what today is Eastern Herzegovina, Montenegro and Northern Albania.
Today there are Varda mountain, located on the border between Serbia and Bosnia and Herzegovina, a little town called Vardiste, and a village called Varda (in the Kosjeric county). Some local families's last names is also Varda.
This is such a great video! One of my favorites. I've watched it probably fives times already.
Nearly a quarter of a million people are subscribed!
I am here after my 9 year old son's first viewing of the LOTR trilogy. This is done so well he would think it was real life history.
This is incredibly well done. Fantastic video!!
I could never really understand all of this but now I know thanks to this video 😊
Love this. One of my favourite channels.
compare to nerd of the rings channel,, your channel is more straight to the point,,, and perfect for a new fans like me.. that want to know the history of tolkien universe but with simple explaination
This is the best video to understand the whole Tolkien universe. Upvoted and subbed, good work.
This guy sounds just like Tuvak from Star Trek.
Soooo well done! very good visual guidence to help remember who, where and what
Nobody:
Melkor: Hey, you guys wanna hear my mixtape?
Point of correction: it was Yavanna, goddess of life, not Varda, that gave birth to the Two Trees. Varda would take the pooled light of Telperion to create the stars, thus the Elves ever-love of Telperion and anything silver.
"aggressive, loud and endlessly repetitive"
so, basically Melkor invented Heavy Metal
13:16 A primordial evil in the form of a spider...looks like Pennywise is also a part of the Lord of the Rings lore
Some Elf: Grandfather, how did the world start?
Grandfather Elf: Well, young one, let me ask what you think: Did it start with the Creator's words or a great battle?
Rando Elf Again: Umm.. a great battle?
This Fucking Pointy-Eared Geezer: Nah, mate, it was angels having a rap battle.
Fantastic overview. Your vids really are first among many!
History is written by the winners. I would love to read a history of the ages the point of view of Melkor or Sauron.
Actually some Russian author had wrote this. And Siliamrillion is written from supposedly objective point of view of what happened, Tolkien wasn't the winner of battles, he's an author. He judges which Side was good and which bad, but there isn't a possibility of "Tolkien lied, in reality Melkor killed nobody and... And it was Manwe who created Angband!" because Tolkien created this reality and just describes it in Siliamrillion.
@@a.w.4708 actually the silmarion is written from the elves perspectives
@@EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal Melikor about his followers from the Alpha to the Orc
there is so much in common between melkor and Satan.
just like Lucifer,Melkor was rebellious toward Eru(God).
and another similarity,Melkor nor Satan can truly Create life,they can only corrupt what already is.
I believe that's the point.
That's the point. Tolkien was a catholic, if I'm not mistaken.
Thanks for pointing out the obvious:)
well yeah according to his letters LOTR is his catholic works, and mixed with anglo-saxon mythology
It is and isn’t the point. While Tolkien was a catholic and there’s a ton of Christina mythos mixed in (the father, son and Holy Spirit aka Frodo, Aragorn and Gandalf all being representations of Jesus) it’s debated on how much Tolkien intended. Records and letters stated he didn’t want this to be allegory. I think his subconscious mixed these in
This is dope. Subbed.
Endor but no Ewoks :)
Golden
Lol I thought the same thing
I have recently started to read the books these videos are helping me understand certain aspects thx
That was so interesting. Cant wait to sit down and listen to more !!
I wish Gandalf as a maiar gave some insight into the timeless halls and what he remembered from before arda. It’s just too interesting
He only had a very faint memory of anything before
Dude I love your channel I always come back to it
I request you start a series on the world of the Heralds of Valdemar. Fantastic series that does not get the attention and love it deserves.
Why isn't this a franchise yet. MAKE IT HAPPEN.
BaSsGaZ I agree! If it was done right, this would be some seriously epic stuff! However, there’s so much material it would be impossible to adapt it right, so “fans” would just complain about anything/everything any company did lol
amazon is doing it , just google LORD OF THE RINGS ON PRIME
@@quantumgravity92 they're only doing the second age, the Tolkien estate will not sell the rights to the first age. Plus there are fears they're gonna go woke with what they are doing.
RUclips, you need to make a system for liking more than just like videos. Some channels are worth special recognition and civilizationEX Is definitely one of them so I guess I gotta still make comments until you give this to me more often on the algorithm
This is wonderful. Thank you!
AYO only recover them silmarils from YOUR ENEMY..
This channel is just too good to not have at least 1 mil subs
This is one of the best videos i have ever seen the music 🎶 and the tale awsome !
Missed a chance for one of the greatest "Husband doesn't know how to shut up" line in literature.
"Nonetheless they will have need of wood" said Aule, and he went on with his smith-work.
I can only assume his next project was the creation of the couch to sleep on.
Strange things happen with Feanor host:
- why Falamari refused to sail their brothers to Middle Earth? (and protect those ships to the very death?)
- why Feanor burn the ships, instead of increasing his battlestrenght by brother forces?
Based on the Silmarillion:
- The Noldor were going against the advice of the Valar in going to Middle Earth; the Teleri didn't want to act against the wishes of the Valar. They also didn't want to sail back to Middle Earth themselves (there had already been indications that those who went would be unable to return) and didn't want to give the ships away (as they were their greatest creations, and they valued them nearly as highly as Feanor valued the Silmarils). They also hoped that making it impractical to get to Middle Earth would get Feanor to reconsider his foolish plan. Instead, Feanor tried to take the ships by force, and things escalated from there. (Also, for the record, the Teleri weren't brothers of the Noldor, except in the broadest sense - they'd been following different ambassadors to Valinor. Admittedly there had been a decent amount of intermarriage in the ages since, but still.)
- Fingolfin hadn't been at all convinced of the wisdom of Feanor's plan, and basically only came along because a lot of his followers and family had been convinced by Feanor and he didn't want to abandon them. By the time of the incident with the ships, things hadn't been going too well (what with the Kinslaying and the Curse of Mandos) and a lot of Fingolfin's followers were beginning to think he'd been right all along and were listening to him more than Feanor. Feanor, who by this point had become rather unhinged, decided that he didn't want or need their assistance if they weren't going to obey him unquestioningly, and that he'd rather abandon them on the borders of Valinor.
@@pi4t651
I know. I have my own book.
But this i STILL strange.
Ainur: "Oh there goes Melkor, doing some crazy things again."
Still ,without doubt ,the greatest of Creation stories.The Silmarillien blew my pre-teen mind 40 years ago, and nothing has come close in sheer magic and mystery.While I enjoyed all LOTR films,they pale in comparison to what I visualized in my mind.If I had formed a Metal band,my band would have been called "THE PITS OF UTUMNO".Has there been a band with that name?
Melkor: ( Decides to screw everything in the music )
Eru: Aw sweetie you're not a mistake 😊
Melkor: 😃
Eru: You're a regret 😑
Melkor: 🥺
😅
They need to make movies about the first age
I would say this content is good for a die hard fan
but not for everyone else, especially younger children
Thanks for a great explanation and history!
so I visualize Tolkien's creation like a guitar shred off
symphonic/neoclassical metal & death/doom metal
@Gregor Eisenhorn
Same dude. As a metalhead, I hate it when people say that Melkor's discord against the Music of the Ainur was equivalent to that of metal against classical music. I prefer to think of it as black metal against symphonic/power metal.
I'm getting Nightwish vibes.
@@metalwarrior81 Perhaps Melkor was Mumble Rap? I can't think of much that's more adverse to classical.
@@ParappatheRapper melkor defo listens to lil pump
The simillarrion goes deeper into the tale of Tolkien’s hobbit and lord of the rings. I’d love to see a film or television program about this as technology in film moves further
Unfortunately i'm not sure if we'll ever get that. Tolkien's estate are famously protective and they've stated on more than one occasion anything First age or before is strictly off limits. That's why rings of power were so vague in their prologue of events leading up they are walking a fine line of what they can do, i'm surprised they could even mention morgoth tbh
Tolkien *really* loved the letter A.
I dare a studio to pick this up and film the entire shit out of First Age into many movies like the MCU.
This music is just beautiful really.