@@AndreBrah to some degree you do though.. Refusing cell assignment is an actual write-up offense for inmates. Results in immediate placement in the "hole".
the most successful criminals *don't*have a record. Think about it. So not having one can mean anything. It's only useful info if the person DOES have one.
That is honestly pretty badass that there’s just this group of geniuses that all get together to brainstorm and try to figure out unsolved crimes like it’s a casual game of Clue.
There are several societies founded along time ago, and I do mean along time ago, that take care of certain matters in the world that resources or other hindrances are in play. Blessed be the enlightened.
If yr innocent, you know it and talk to the police they can twist it! If you are innocent, takes everyones advice and lawyer up your guilty, it really is scary, look at the recent case man got convicted, on death row, yet he had atleast 15 alibi' s proving he was in another state, one being a close friend who was a cop, the cop first child had been born that day, he was with the supposed killer that afternoon! Now that scares me!
It freaked me out when all that guy could come up with for an alibi was that he was at his appt alone cause that would probably be my alibi in a situation like this
You're so right, seems like the cops get tunnel vision and if you are in their scope, party is over , and getting out is a 20 year process if it happens then, no I'm sorry , no accountability, just lost 20 years of your life over ignorance
Yeah, that's really backwards. If he didn't care about her safety at all that night, she would have lived. If the first security guard didn't radio the disgruntled security guard, she would have lived. If the disgruntled security guard hadn't radioed the third security guard, she would have lived. If she had worn any other pair of shoes that day, she would've lived. This story is so messed up and backwards to everything right. :(
@@bentonrp Exactly right.. Could have happened to any of us. We assume these security personnel are trustworthy and that the universities are safe for young girls to roam around by themselves..
What I want to know is why the level of education isn't higher for police officers. Seems they routinely mess up investigations over there unless it's an open and shut case. Surprising they wouldnt have interviewed the gf of the security guard originally about the call length or even check the call time as being only 3 minutes long. Very basic stuff
Have they thought about not hurting women and not being abusive and learning correction in their thinking to help themselves and not in the genital sense? Hmm I wonder...
No, he did it to reduce his sentence. Which also means he may have made the entire thing up. A lot of false convictions are due to cellmates lying to try to get reduced sentences.
That would be a good way to start a book/movie, "my cell mate confessed to me".. and they start the story. The other guy never figured his cell mate would tell the guards.
I chuckled soon as I heard it! He said it so matter-of-factly! 🤣🤣🤣 Like, "You already know he sang like a Canary soon as he had the chance! What else do you expect from a jailbird?!" 🤷🏽♀️🤣🤣🤣🤣
Man the irony in this the boyfriend telling the security guard she was alone ended up being why she was chosen as an easy target. Man how sad it was to keep her safe but told the killer she was alone and probably no one was gonna be able to see 😞
Right? And super sad that she'd already had a violent encounter with her stalker the day before. And in the office just above the computer lab, there was a man who liked to assault and threaten secretaries. 😢
The scariest part of this video was that Ashland dude. Almost every single thing pointed the finger at him, (outside of physical evidence), including the failed polygraph test. Just goes to show that coincidence and unlucky circumstances can make an innocent person look totally guilty.
My sister and my husband had me thrown in jail for something that same sister did. They gave me a new type of polygraph test that didn't have anything to do with your pulse. He said people who lie always has a certain pause or something in their voice, and that's what it would check for. He said it's so small most people doesn't hear it. I failed it twice somehow even though I was in bed sleep when the thing happened. So, no I never believe those tests.
@@Nischal_Kandel and they more than you as well in that respect, What's your point. As a martial arts practitioner of over three decades and having raced motorcycles for two, I wager to have accomplished more than you as a man mr inadequate
@@terryl9996 I don't go around calling people that spend their time trying to solve cold cases egotist. Its great that you have practiced martial arts for three decades but. Who. asked?
@@Nischal_Kandel but you go around virtue signaling to someone making a simple predication while having the irony of mentioning the topic of accomplishments
Police: "You wanted to date her, and when she kept refusing you, you got angry. You killed her, didn't you, you nerd!" "No, no! I was alone in my apartment that night...!" Police: "...Yeah, we believe you on that, actually."
That stuff happens all the time though. People are always bragging to their cellmates about stuff; and for some reason, they always think that they won't be reported. "I'll tell my secrets to someone who has the ability to trade favors for information. What could possibly go wrong?"
@@DogFlamingoXIII you really believe that? More like the da offered his roommate something to testify and lie that he was bragging. Now that is what happens all the time.
lol, the funny part is WHY on earth someone would think telling your CELLmate that you like killing people for their feet is a good idea. Wouldn't the cellmate think "oh this mf might kill me 1 day just for my feet. fuck him"
@@zappyeats2579 Happens all the time, everyone is looking out for themselves. There is an old saying among cons in jail " You have no friends in jail" That was his first (im sure) time in jail, and he found out the hard way quickly
My grandpa was murdered, the cops spent the entire time trying to pin it on my grandmother who was tied up by the murderer. She was cleared of it, but it was really disturbing how much the cops focused on her. The murder was never solved, but there are theories on who did it and why. One thing is known though, that it was done by a professional.
That's sad. But cops don't care enough to put forth the effort, unless it affects one of theirs. Then you're getting buried. Otherwise, you likely don't get caught. Only 10% get caught. 10%.
I really feel bad for Debbie’s boyfriend, man. He thought he was doing the right thing by alerting the security guards to her presence. Honestly, I might’ve done the same thing. I wouldn’t have expected a security guard to be a killer, especially if it’s a security guard I saw around campus all the time. But hindsight is 20/20, so of course I find it strange now.
Were I live they hired a professional security guard company. One of them followed a woman in her building and raped her. Sorry to say you really can't trust anyone.
Actually it happens alot because almost anyone can become security guards and offenders purposely seek these jobs to perpetrate their crimes as in many security guard crimes
Unfortunately that’s actually a very common job for a serial killer. As well as truckers. They purposefully choose a job that puts them in a better position to find victims.
@@alyciamarie4163 not true. Of serial killers, they can get themselves jobs to allow them to do that but to say it's common along serial killers isnt right
None of them are the sharpest knives in the drawer. Except some serial killers like the Zodiac. These guys enjoy taking credits, that's what drives most of them. Attention.
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Read about that Indiana State Cop who got locked up for 17 years for murdering his family, and he had nothing to do with it -- it was a random nut job.
This is so wild. All of the suspects they looked into seemed soooo guilty and yet the one who actually did it was immediately dropped because of his well respected background wtf
HO!! LEE!! THE BOYFRIEND HAD FRESH BUSTED KNUCKLES AND A DEEP HAND CUT -- CERTAIN TYPES WOULD HAVE BEEN LYNCHED THAT SAME NIGHT!! BUT NO, THE GUY WAS CLEAN BUT TERRIBLY SUSPICIOUS!! SAVED BY THE BLOOD TEST: ALL FIVE SUSPECTS!!
Manager of the computer lab: yknow it’s weird he heard those printers at 2am because they shutoff at 10pm automatically The cold case detectives: shiiiiittt
There were investors that raised concerns about Bernie Madoff because they couldn't figure out how he made his gains, and the SEC did nothing. It was only when his kids turned him in that they did something. There were at least a couple of people who did school shootings that posted about their intentions on social media before hand. People reported the messages to the police or FBI and they didn't take it seriously. It's better to deal with a problem while it is small before it turns into a big problem.
I actually caut that. Guard said printer noises at 2:30. But we was told that She died at 1:38, I thought who was printing, they must have seen her, blood or the messed up room, after a fight or something. When ballien did not go deeper into it. I just left it.
Who leaves their gf by themselves around a bunch a weirdo security guards that late at night anyway? I wouldn’t of trusted them to begin with. Knowing other ppl were around her again that late, would of made me stay. He was dumb.
My thoughts exactly than he told another security guard to go look after her cause he was lazy I was well oops Security guards are suss af I dont trust them..... im married to one and he wears black gloves al all times while working cause germs and im always like yeah okay buddy sure
Freal. I know that dude's bunkie was like "tf did this man just say to me?" Idek how id respond hearing the sentence "I killed her to have my way with her feet." Id have to jaw check that man. Lost his life for some feet. Wild
I had a weird experience. My friend and I went shopping one afternoon, I wore a knee length dress and grey high heeled booties and she wore shorts and sandals. As we approached the parking garage I felt someone gaining on us, I looked behind me and saw a man with a camera strapped around his neck walking very fast and looking down at the ground. He seemed in a hurry but we didn’t feel threatened. But when we got near our car he came up behind us and blocked us in between cars and the wall so we couldn’t go anywhere, and he started rapidly taking pictures my ankles and feet zooming in and getting closer and closer until he was a couple feet away then moved on to her feet and did the same. I shouted at him to stop and leave us alone and tried to find my phone in my purse but he ran off before I could could see what direction he went. It all happened so fast. It’s creepy he had pictures of our heels and feet somewhere in his possession.
Jesus Christ that's both harrowing and kind of funny. Not funny that it happened to people, just funny because of absurdity like brother wtf are you doing w your time?
Might have been no problem had he NOT told the security guard she was alone. How's that for the brain, the worst of things can come from the best of intentions!
And this is why in America we like to carry guns or tasers or pepper spray or whatever on us 24/7 'What are you so scared of all of the time?' Oh I don't know, highly trained military security guards with a foot fetish? We could start with that. You're never actually safe in any society if you don't take the proper measures to make sure you can protect yourself, it's the only person you can rely on.
There's no probably about it. He is. I'd go off the rails if I had been him. Probably would have tried to commit a crime that would land me in the same prison as the killer so that I could exact revenge. But that's just me. I doubt anyone would consider it honourable.
YESSSS OMG and when i give in to my temptation i INSTANTLY regret it cause the first comment is like “i honestly cant believe Nataly got away with it” AND IM LIKE “NOOOOO” lol i thought it was just me
Initially watching this reminded me of my days in grad school being alone in the college building late night on the weekends trying to finish video editing projects. The software is expensive. So I had to use the university computers. We didn't have guards. We would just get to the building during the late afternoon when it was open, sign in, and then stay for hours doing work while the building would get locked from the outside at night. Sometimes I'd finish really late and just walk back to my apartment at 3 a.m., not thinking much of it. I was about to say it would've been nice to have guards in our buildings, until I saw the ending. Such a heartbreaking story.
Its sad but I've heard many stories of gang members shooting people over a pair of expensive Jordan's or some other expensive pair of shoes.always makes me wonder if someone's ever eyeing me up when I come out of the house with a pair of my off-white nikes that I own since some of them can fetch a pretty penny.ive actually had one person offer me 2grand for a pair that i bought the day they came out for $250 and that was only a month after the shoes release.really sad that just a pair of shoes can make you a mark to some people.at least this poor girls family got some sort of piece being that their daughters killer was eventually caught and serving time for his murder.
When you mentioned he walked by at 2:15 am, immediate flags were raised in my mind. Typically, you don't print while working on a project until it's finished but you said she was mid sentence on her project at 1:38 am. That signaled to me either someone else had to be in there at that time OR he was lying.
Yeah that was what bothered me too, i watched the first 15 minutes twice and the 2 main things that bothered me were the printer and the shoes. The backpack was found but the shoes werent? That in my mind meant that the killer moved the shoes far away but left the backpack?? Also what are the odds she lost both shoes AND socks during the struggle without the killer purposely removing them and as pointed above, moving them speficially. Also the security guards were the ones to know what the other was doing at any time and knew the area so i figured it was the security guard who had history and that the blood was from the janitor (nosebleed/cut?) which caused a mixup. Either way i was wrong but it was fun!
For me, the missing shoes did raise suspicion, I mean, _where were they ?!_ But more than that, I couldn't get over the missing socks! Like, what ? where ? how ? why ?!! The printer did not raise suspicion because back in my Univ days, I was overly cautious about my projects and, so as not to lose any material just in case I forgot to hit the "save" button, I would print every two pages of completed work.
Same. Especially after watching the video where the guy was going into the girl's apartment when she was gone and when she found out he killed her.Some people truly are messed up! I love Mr Ballen's videos but they make my paranoia and anxiety skyrocket. 😬
I find it a bit weird how he doesn't say jack about his involvement in the crime for years, even to the police and then blabs all of a sudden to some random cell mate? Unless he knew the game was up? it seems odd.
Some guys wanna seem tough the moment they get in because they don't want to be viewed as easy prey themselves. Maybe he figured that a fellow prisoner would "have" to be a kindred spirit?
I don’t know how y’all look for the secret when I’m on the edge of my seat enraptured in the stories. I always lose track of time listening to the story. Good for you if you can do both!
@A H where did you come to that conclusion? Of course they followed up on those. They most likely connected those to the robberies reprted by neighbors
It probably was. The rest were most likely stolen as murder would A) be too strenuous to clean up after and B) he had no reason to murder if he could just steal. Debbie was only killed cause thats the only way he could get those shoes
@@raudy7856 it says in the video that he told his cell mate that he wanted to have his way with her feet, he did more than just kill her and steal her shoes from the sounds of it.
And why would he even say that, everyone knows when telling a good lie you give as much truth as possible so the lie is as small and believable as possible!!
In the history of RUclips, every other person just says the same “like this video” spiel and like 60% of the people who view it forget or just don’t bother....then here comes MrBallen, with hands down one of the best true crime/strange dark and mysterious content (delivered in story format) channels I’ve ever come across....and has me literally hitting the “like” button before he even starts talking because I’m already so stoked he posted a new video...and in the off chance one of us forgot to actually “like” it, he always manages to remind us in a completely new (and hilarious) way...bravo Sir Ballen...bravo 🙌🏻😍🤓
I always "like" something that I've watched, that way I know I've already watched it. Especially on channels where I skip around on the videos. Or if I miss a few, I'll know which videos I still need to watch.
@@MrBallen stopppp I just got SO excited that you saw my comment! I can officially die happy now 🙌🏻🙈😂 lol! I have to also say thank you so much for your service 🙏🏻...my dad was in Vietnam and has a Purple Heart also, and my grandpa (who is now 98 years old) flew B17 bomber planes in WW2...I’ll never be as cool as them lol but thought it was awesome when I finally went over and saw your IG! I absolutely love your channel my friend...keep up the awesome work! 🙌🏻😍
@@Carmen-us1ew I do that too! I wish there was another button or some sort of "already watched" icon because some peoples videos aren't that good but not bad enough to "dislike". My favorite channels, like MrBallen, I don't hesitate, though, and this is one of the few channels I don't mind seeing the videos more than once.
I swear this guy is the best storyteller on earth. I was sleepy and looking for something to fall asleep to but I couldn't help but listen to the whole thing. He just captures your ears' attention.
Indeed, however it is so easy to do that in an investigation, you have to work your way through the case and at one time or another there are different suspects who end up having nothing to do with the incident. That is just life, one person the one who was injured or killed may have contact with dozens of people over a day, especially in a large campus area, and suspicion follows the clues as they become known. That's just the way it has to be done. It would be great if every criminal would leave their student ID on the body but that doesn't happen all that often.
@@brianking9424 and start a story like this ... "it was a dark and stormy night, and debbie was working late" blah blah blah " and it was all just a dream" lol
It only sounds overwritten because your only perception of what a murder looks like are the fictional books you read. In real life situations, they can be simple or highly complicated. There is no definition of what a murder truly looks like.
Throughout the story every guess I made I ended up retracting because the next suspect fit the story better. I have never been more frustrated. Thank you
I think this is the perfect illustration of why it is essential for police investigations to be conducted meticulously. Even allowing for the fact that this was in story form, there was a heap of suspects, any of whom could easily have been charged (and probably found guilty) of the crime. If anything, this was one of those cases where the least likely suspect was the actual killer.
MrBallen please do the “Keddie Cabin Murder” Edit: anyone who wants MrBallen to do the “Keddie Cabin Murder” please like or comments this. BTW it’s still an unsolved case tho, if I'm not wrong
Just think! She would still be alive if the concerned boyfriend hadn’t hadn’t asked a murderous security guard to check on her. Technically Kurt got her killed.
I KNEW IT! I used to study in my campus's basement computer labs all the time and they are EERILY quiet after about 10 pm. The lights are dim and the sound it muffled by the thick, reinforced concrete walls. There is no way Dixon could have seen & heard what he said; it had to be him. As soon as he said the other guard hadn't contacted him, my suspicion locked in. His alibi seemed way too neat. Maybe it was all my years evading creeps at night on campus, but this one felt obvious to me.
I had heard this story before. I remember it because like the victim I would stay past closing working in the radio lab. My University had one intern position with Marc Simone the NY Radio DJ and I wanted it. The cleaning man knew I was there and he made me feel safe but, I was scared one day when a different man came in and startled me. I screamed hysterically only to realize I was in a sound proof booth and no one could hear me. THAT terrified me so much I not only never went after hours again but, I changed my major. Mr. Ballen made this story so real and interesting he had me on the edge of my seat even though I knew the ending! How talented he is. I'd love for him to do a radio podcast. #1 fan!
The initial lineup of suspects feels straight out of a movie or television show with its variety of stereotypes: You have the distraught boyfriend, the uncooperative security guard, the disliked PhD student, and the former-friend-turned-stalker. And of course it ends up being the squeaky-clean foot-fetishist. Classic.
They are stereotypes because they *are* so common. Husband/boyfriend/jilted boyfriend first. That's the vast majority of them. Then casual acquaintances. then those with an opportunity. Stranger murder, especially when it's up close and personal like strangulation, is very rare.
This actually was used in a movie called Urban Legend. It’s a decent slasher movie from the late 90’s and features this entire storyline as one of the main plot threads.
Urban legend if I recall was a little different. The killer turned out to be the lover of a man the girl accidentally killed during a prank and the security guard was never a suspect but I see what you mean still kind of similar
I’m I the only one who starts off by watching a few videos now I’m hooked😭😭😭❤️ The more I watch the more I become aware and how horrible so ppl really are…these stories are an eye opener and also @MrBallen you hav made every video I watched enjoyable and I was immersed in them….if I could have half of this ur story telling skills I would love it❣️🤲🏾…Well-done again I’m such that I will be watching this channel for a long time .
I want to say that uncovering these cases to public with whole info with every detail and every person and the photos he put a lot of hardwork and I am big fan of him Keep up the great work 👍❤️
It also leads to a lot of chases down rabbit holes, puts innocent people in prison, and leave cases ultimately unsolved due to police not paying enough attention to everything in front of them.
@@Joeysaladslover haha it’s a known fact. In cases of sexual assault/abuse/violence, fake accusations represent around 2% of all cases which is basically nothing. But somehow, too many people love to bring up the false allegations because it’s fits perfectly their sexist narrative that women lie all the time and that they just want to hurt men and men’s reputations, etc. Even tho factually most of rapists and abusers still keep their job ! Some even get promoted hahaha. If you want to stop the irony and dig deeper, it’s up to you to educate yourself, learn about the world and the injustice that women and minorities face everyday, I don’t owe you knowledge, I’m not your personal assistant, I can only bring awareness and hope you’ll find your way, bring your guard down and listen to the victims around you and maybe in the internet. You don’t have to carry all the world’s misery, but surely you can land a helping hand and be an ally to people who really need their voices to be amplified. Thanks and take care.
As soon as you said her boyfriend told the security guard to check on her because she was alone, I immediately thought it was that security guard. Then when I learned there were more security guards I was like, "It's one of them, I know it". Never tell strangers your vulnerable loved one is alone. Especially in the middle of the night.
oh yes that led to a chain of events that led to her death. the security guard he told to look out for her, told the next who told the next who was the ultimate killer. Also the boyfriend left her alone which was a big mistake on his behalf. He could have just napped in the computer lab. a bit sad people are in universities that late when they could have a computer at home
As a retired private who specialized in child molestation I told my grandson who wanted me to watch ur show that immediately it was the boyfriend or the security guard.....I enjoyed this I also did profiling and he is right it's always the little things
OMG! The moment I heard "her shoes were missing" my brain immediatel went to "I hope this isnt a foot fetish thing". And I was constantly nagged by the fact that if one SG says he told the other SG to check on someone and the other says he never got the said call, one of them is lying. Also, I thought, if she was killed at 1:38, how were printers working at 2:15? and who "checks" on people without poking their head into the room? Didnt make sense and I was sure it was one of the SG and must be one of the other two. So sad that someone's shoe and foot fetish got a girl killed (not even the actual stalker she had). True butterfly effect there.
I thot the same thing about that SG about hearing the printers so everything must be fine that didn't make to much sense to me and he had a military background nope he would of made sure she was ok but he wasn't gonna put himself in that room all alone with her that stood out to me I instantly said it's him.Now the foot fetish thing that caught me off guard lol that was a good catch by you there. 😁
Ladies, rape being all about power is a myth. It’s about sex. Don’t believe the myth. They’re just saying that so women can dress and act however they want and avoid responsibility. Dress and act how your want. But accept the consequences if you run across a psycho.
@@truthhurts837 you mean, someone like you? The only people who think like that are the ones who want to shirk responsibility of even trying to keep it in their pants if the woman doesnt want it. Do you have to go door to door informing people you have a name in the register? Too bad...
Ha. You don’t know me silly. You’re wrong. Most men think like this but they won’t tell silly women. I’m the most respectful person towards women you’ve probably ever met. You don’t want to here the truth.
Yeah I was wondering if the police said she was dragged and that’s how the shoes came off where are they? And the socks probably wouldn’t come off from being dragged! Does the killer like sneakers or the actual feet? What about all the shoes in his apartment? Did he kill other women to get them!
It's pretty obvious shoes and socks don't fall of from being dragged over smooth tile and concrete and if they has been dragged over a high friction surface there would be indicators on the feet them self
@@Ahuman-pl7qo: Well why wouldja come on down here before finishing the video Silly..?. Lol. But seriously, you will honestly ALWAYS see spoilers down here. Sheeeeeeesh!!
You should do the Kyron Horman unsolved case. It’s local to me and his mom still is sending out search parties 10 years later because she refuses to give up! She deserves closure. How do we get this unsolved murder society help her??
According to Vidocq's website, the Kyron Horman case does not fit their criteria because there's no body and no crime scene (according to the Wikipedia article). I guess you could try and find organisations that do try to solve missing persons cases?
The second you said he heard printers after 2 when she was already attacked, I immediately thought it was him. Damn, I'm actually very minorly impressed with myself lol
I wondered how no one picked up on that. Did they just not say that to the geniuses? Like at least ask for who was there for information if you believe him.
Yes this story is covered in the book The Murder Room. It's about the society of investigators that are who figured this out. The brilliant psychological profiler Richard Walter immediately thought of the paraphila of shoes. Amazing men and women doing the very best of their fields work.
I graduated HS from a tiny school in a podunk small town. We had CCTV security systems installed in every school in the district and all admin buildings over the summer between my 6th &7th grade years, so mid/late 80s. I just don't understand why this isn't common practice in every room, dorm, hallway and along campus pathways on EVERY college/Uni campus in the U.S. Surveillance is everywhere else it SHOULDN'T be, so why is it never where it's needed in well populated areas? There's no reason the colleges can't afford to have state if the art surveillance systems with motion detection, infrared & all the other BS needed to see regardless of light, weather and they definitely can also afford to keep the flora on the grounds well manucured weekly AND have the entire system tested biweekly or monthly. It's just negligence for them not to have what more than half the INTERIORS of private homes now have. Period.
I always find it so interesting how intricate some people's lives are. When investigating a murder, the poor victim has no secrets left. Imagine having a violent stalker, but being murdered by someone else !!
Yeah I genuinely worry about this. I’m into true crime stories and I live alone so my habits are very weird…can’t wait to see what they say about me haha.
Bonus points for sentiment and originality, but Uncrustables can't be re-crusted any more than crusted. It's in the name.. and those are never inaccurate. /s
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"His cellmate immediately told on him" LMFAOOOOO
That's what cell mates are for.
I would do the same. No way I'm sharing a cell with a foot fetishist.
@@thaguy2196 like you get to pick your cell mate
@@AndreBrah to some degree you do though..
Refusing cell assignment is an actual write-up offense for inmates. Results in immediate placement in the "hole".
Sometimes those cellmates are undercover cops. Since when would a cellmates word be evidence? Never. The cellmate was a cop.
Just because a person doesn't have a criminal record doesn't mean they're innocent. They have to start somewhere.
And get caught
Top tip 😱
Or they may be really good criminals and hadn't been caught, yet.
Already started they just not caught yet
the most successful criminals *don't*have a record. Think about it.
So not having one can mean anything.
It's only useful info if the person DOES have one.
Ballen's dedication to flannel is extraordinary.
yes
Homer famously had a toga and beard… MrBallen’s backwards hat/flannel combo is no different.
85%flannel 15% backwards hat wearing hat backwards in the house? Maybe his hairs a wig and the hat keeps it on
He’s bringing it back
Yeah, I noticed that too; at least he’ll stay warm.
That is honestly pretty badass that there’s just this group of geniuses that all get together to brainstorm and try to figure out unsolved crimes like it’s a casual game of Clue.
Wouldn't that be fun to do...maybe fun isn't this right word😳🙈🙉🙊
It was the Like Button with the lead pipe in the Dislike Study.
There are several societies founded along time ago, and I do mean along time ago, that take care of certain matters in the world that resources or other hindrances are in play. Blessed be the enlightened.
Why do Americans say honestly before they make a statement.
@@OscarSJP What’s wrong with saying it? We’re admitting that something is impressive or cool to us so we say “honestly.”
The scariest part of this to me is that the police were "so certain" every time. We're all one crappy alibi away from life in prison.
Iol that was good. I’ll see ya in the big house probably. Can I put in an application for your gang?
If yr innocent, you know it and talk to the police they can twist it! If you are innocent, takes everyones advice and lawyer up your guilty, it really is scary, look at the recent case man got convicted, on death row, yet he had atleast 15 alibi' s proving he was in another state, one being a close friend who was a cop, the cop first child had been born that day, he was with the supposed killer that afternoon! Now that scares me!
It freaked me out when all that guy could come up with for an alibi was that he was at his appt alone cause that would probably be my alibi in a situation like this
You're so right, seems like the cops get tunnel vision and if you are in their scope, party is over , and getting out is a 20 year process if it happens then, no I'm sorry , no accountability, just lost 20 years of your life over ignorance
Greg Kelley can confirm
So sad that her boyfriend asking the security guard to check on her ultimately signaled to the killer that she was all alone and vulnerable...
Yeah, that's really backwards. If he didn't care about her safety at all that night, she would have lived.
If the first security guard didn't radio the disgruntled security guard, she would have lived.
If the disgruntled security guard hadn't radioed the third security guard, she would have lived.
If she had worn any other pair of shoes that day, she would've lived.
This story is so messed up and backwards to everything right. :(
@@bentonrp Exactly right.. Could have happened to any of us. We assume these security personnel are trustworthy and that the universities are safe for young girls to roam around by themselves..
@@bentonrp all these r so true wtf literally coulda bought any other color but white and she would have lived
Yo what's with your name plays with children
Yo what's with your name what's all that about
Can you imagine being in that room of geniuses just for the one fella to go “have we thought about foot fetishes yet?”
as all the rest of them stop dead in their tracks staring at one another....all thinking to themselves "oh shit. the gig is up"
What I want to know is why the level of education isn't higher for police officers. Seems they routinely mess up investigations over there unless it's an open and shut case. Surprising they wouldnt have interviewed the gf of the security guard originally about the call length or even check the call time as being only 3 minutes long. Very basic stuff
You KNOW he didn't want to say it! LOL!!!🤣
Have they thought about not hurting women and not being abusive and learning correction in their thinking to help themselves and not in the genital sense? Hmm I wonder...
@@timm2824
Good point. Yep, I would have to guess the police are the fckups and so are managers and the rest that cause bad ways to be over looked.
Love that the cell mate immediately told …probably freaked out he’d have his feet played with at night .. and ya know good behavior lol
😂😂😂🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌
😅😂😅😢😂😂😂
I love
No, he did it to reduce his sentence. Which also means he may have made the entire thing up. A lot of false convictions are due to cellmates lying to try to get reduced sentences.
😂😂😂😂
"And his cellmate immediately told on him."
Underrated line.
That would be a good way to start a book/movie, "my cell mate confessed to me".. and they start the story. The other guy never figured his cell mate would tell the guards.
I chuckled soon as I heard it! He said it so matter-of-factly! 🤣🤣🤣 Like, "You already know he sang like a Canary soon as he had the chance! What else do you expect from a jailbird?!" 🤷🏽♀️🤣🤣🤣🤣
Makes me wonder what was he doing in that cell in the first place -if his cell mates testimony was needed to convict.
Oh I guess there were two trials, the first ended with a hung jury….it was during that trial that he bragged to his cell mate.
I wonder if that inmate got killed for snitching lol
Man, I just love the strange, dark and mysterious delivered in story format and uploaded 3,4 even 5 times every week.
I wish they would be 3, 4, or 5 times a week. They aren’t though.
@@thelittlespoon yeah they are🤣
This gets posted on every single video. Come up with an original comment.
Same here..mr ballen posted its gonna be a good day
Don't forget the look away and down on the 5 count!!
So, is this anyone else’s first time hearing about this society of geniuses, that get together, and try to solve cold cases?🖐🏻 😳
I’ve read about them. You have to be invited and have a speciality that is “open” such as an entomologist, etc.
No . It's super documented
Yes. Very intriguing!
Sooo 😎Cool! Yet, so 🤓Geeky! I want to hang out & take notes.
Nope. Dinozzos dad on NCIS is part of the team! Lol
Man the irony in this the boyfriend telling the security guard she was alone ended up being why she was chosen as an easy target. Man how sad it was to keep her safe but told the killer she was alone and probably no one was gonna be able to see 😞
Right? And super sad that she'd already had a violent encounter with her stalker the day before. And in the office just above the computer lab, there was a man who liked to assault and threaten secretaries. 😢
I thought about that when he told the security guard that. Is the security guard a good person?
The scariest part of this video was that Ashland dude. Almost every single thing pointed the finger at him, (outside of physical evidence), including the failed polygraph test. Just goes to show that coincidence and unlucky circumstances can make an innocent person look totally guilty.
Crazy, that polygraphs are still used. They're so damn unreliable
@@Jusuff They aren't used in criminal cases though if I recall correctly.
@@Jusuff They aren't admissible in court. They're more used as leverage and a scare tactic at times... to get confessions.
@@RandyMarsh-uc6sw well that's at least something
My sister and my husband had me thrown in jail for something that same sister did. They gave me a new type of polygraph test that didn't have anything to do with your pulse. He said people who lie always has a certain pause or something in their voice, and that's what it would check for. He said it's so small most people doesn't hear it. I failed it twice somehow even though I was in bed sleep when the thing happened. So, no I never believe those tests.
It’s so cool that there’s a society of geniuses who meet up monthly just to try and solve cold cases. so cool!
@@terryl9996 still accomplishing a lot more then you will mr humble.
@@Nischal_Kandel and they more than you as well in that respect, What's your point. As a martial arts practitioner of over three decades and having raced motorcycles for two, I wager to have accomplished more than you as a man mr inadequate
@@terryl9996 I don't go around calling people that spend their time trying to solve cold cases egotist. Its great that you have practiced martial arts for three decades but.
Who.
asked?
@@Nischal_Kandel but you go around virtue signaling to someone making a simple predication while having the irony of mentioning the topic of accomplishments
@@terryl9996 most definitely a egotist martial artist society
So using the buddy system when the killer is “one of us” is a terrible idea for whoever is unfortunately buddies with the killer
Ay bro wanna be my buddy? And nice white shoes btw (:
Excuse me, sir. Sir! Would you mind letting me know /holds up napkin. Does this smell like Chloroform?
among us in real life
May have to travel in threes.
as soon as someone is down a buddy, you know who the killer is.
I always think how lucky Mr. Ballen's kids are to have such a great storyteller as a dad. 😃
Can u imagine how awesome yet terrifying it would be going camping with him while growing up? #CampfireGhostStories
Not when they're sat around the camp fire and one of them's wearing white trainers.
you* @@audw82
Depends on the story.
@@ibewatchinu 🤣🤣🤣🤣
when you're an introvert and has no alibi other than being alone in your apartment
Police: "You wanted to date her, and when she kept refusing you, you got angry. You killed her, didn't you, you nerd!"
"No, no! I was alone in my apartment that night...!"
Police: "...Yeah, we believe you on that, actually."
When you have major anxiety and this comment almost made you have a panic attack
@@lisakrikke1991 beta!
I think about this often… 😅
My alibi is me being reported for saying evil things to people while playing Warzone.
It’s disturbing just how many potential suspects surrounded this woman daily. At any given moment how many weirdos are you surrounded by?!
I just started counting. Hopefully I won't find that many. 🤔
Now that's just scarey to think about
I had one at work, to the point where we wondered what they would do when fired.
I'm always surrounded by myself so
Why did I look at my spouse and my dog, then say to myself...”Currently??Two.”?
Told a cellmate he killed a woman just to mess with her feet, and he immediately told on him... lmao
Can you imagine? How much dumber can you really feel than that?
That stuff happens all the time though. People are always bragging to their cellmates about stuff; and for some reason, they always think that they won't be reported. "I'll tell my secrets to someone who has the ability to trade favors for information. What could possibly go wrong?"
@@DogFlamingoXIII you really believe that? More like the da offered his roommate something to testify and lie that he was bragging. Now that is what happens all the time.
lol, the funny part is WHY on earth someone would think telling your CELLmate that you like killing people for their feet is a good idea. Wouldn't the cellmate think "oh this mf might kill me 1 day just for my feet. fuck him"
@@zappyeats2579 Happens all the time, everyone is looking out for themselves. There is an old saying among cons in jail " You have no friends in jail" That was his first (im sure) time in jail, and he found out the hard way quickly
My grandpa was murdered, the cops spent the entire time trying to pin it on my grandmother who was tied up by the murderer. She was cleared of it, but it was really disturbing how much the cops focused on her. The murder was never solved, but there are theories on who did it and why. One thing is known though, that it was done by a professional.
A hit perhaps? I' m sorry it hasn' t been solved
@@Nola5427 hey Nola, it was a hit they are sure of that.
That's sad. But cops don't care enough to put forth the effort, unless it affects one of theirs. Then you're getting buried. Otherwise, you likely don't get caught. Only 10% get caught. 10%.
Oh I’m so sorry. Wishing you peace around this ❤
@@alexandramcleod2079 thank you sweetie.
I really feel bad for Debbie’s boyfriend, man. He thought he was doing the right thing by alerting the security guards to her presence. Honestly, I might’ve done the same thing. I wouldn’t have expected a security guard to be a killer, especially if it’s a security guard I saw around campus all the time. But hindsight is 20/20, so of course I find it strange now.
Were I live they hired a professional security guard company. One of them followed a woman in her building and raped her. Sorry to say you really can't trust anyone.
Actually it happens alot because almost anyone can become security guards and offenders purposely seek these jobs to perpetrate their crimes as in many security guard crimes
Unfortunately that’s actually a very common job for a serial killer. As well as truckers. They purposefully choose a job that puts them in a better position to find victims.
You'd be surprised how easy it actually is to become a security guard. It's more of just a job than a career choice
@@alyciamarie4163 not true. Of serial killers, they can get themselves jobs to allow them to do that but to say it's common along serial killers isnt right
“His cellmate immediately told on him” …when are criminals gonna learn you can’t trust other criminals?!
Hopefully never
nerver, thanks to their narcissism
He was a newbie. 😄🤷
None of them are the sharpest knives in the drawer. Except some serial killers like the Zodiac. These guys enjoy taking credits, that's what drives most of them. Attention.
@@adrianaledezma6920 the same percentage of non criminals are narcissistic, as criminals.
Never imagined I’d get hooked to watching some random guy telling stories on RUclips, but here I am.
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Same here
@@pedrovelazquez9785 facts
facts check out reddit aliens channel sometime or type reddit short stories and you'll find god shit
I know the feeling lol
This is the first time a solved cold case literally made my stomach turn when the motive was revealed. I'm sure this guy has more bodies on him.
Thank god mr ballen is on today, i go through withdrawals everyday he is not on
Me tooo😀
Same
Hahaha
Me too!
Same here.
"putting a pen to the neck of his secretaries and telling them he was going to kill them jokingly" Well, he got a few screw loose
Yoooooooooooo FUK
PhD students are weird.
People are so uptight now a days. Can't even threaten to kill your co workers anymore
@@joshspringsteen4367 no we're not. _That_ Ph.D student was weird.
That’s a PhD candidate for you
Imagine being killed because some clown values white shoes and socks more than your life.
That's what I just said
THIS is why it is totally ok to kink shame!
@@86BarbOmega Who made you a deputy of the thought police?
Bruh this isn't even me being funny but I saw someone get shot for stepping on some Jordan's
This is more common than youthink in the hood. Jordan’s and coke white air forces poeple lose they life over sadly
Being wrongfully accused of murder is one of the scariest things in my eyes. Especially if it was one of my ex girl friends , or current gF actually.
Read about that Indiana State Cop who got locked up for 17 years for murdering his family, and he had nothing to do with it -- it was a random nut job.
Lol, especially after you commented this - you'd be the #1 unsub!
WTF, killed a woman just to mess with her feet. F'n sick, man.
Should I be afraid?? I have cute feet.
@@mistrjt9213 Yes, you should be afraid. But only because you announced it here. Had you stayed silent, you would have been safe.
@@isakteppen4139 ... Safe ? At no time is one safe !
"Never NOT be afraid !!"
Lol. 🤣
@@mistrjt9213 funny🤣🤣
I mean I have sharp toenails so I feel safe
This is so wild. All of the suspects they looked into seemed soooo guilty and yet the one who actually did it was immediately dropped because of his well respected background wtf
If you want to get away with shit just join the army or cops for a few years or bcome a doctor,people really kiss doctors asses
@@Gos1234567 And they really trust the oink oinks.
The investigator probably drop the suspicion, because they don't want to be accuse of being racist
I always think to myself when they say someone had a clean record, that they have to start somewhere. No one is a murdered until the murder.
HO!! LEE!! THE BOYFRIEND HAD FRESH BUSTED KNUCKLES AND A DEEP HAND CUT -- CERTAIN TYPES WOULD HAVE BEEN LYNCHED THAT SAME NIGHT!! BUT NO, THE GUY WAS CLEAN BUT TERRIBLY SUSPICIOUS!! SAVED BY THE BLOOD TEST: ALL FIVE SUSPECTS!!
Mr Ballen, I believe I speak for everyone when I say “WE FREAKING LOVE YOU.”
I second this notion
I got goosebumps when Richard Walter came into it! What an absolute genius! He has an amazing gift, so clever and talented.
Manager of the computer lab: yknow it’s weird he heard those printers at 2am because they shutoff at 10pm automatically
The cold case detectives: shiiiiittt
There were investors that raised concerns about Bernie Madoff because they couldn't figure out how he made his gains, and the SEC did nothing. It was only when his kids turned him in that they did something.
There were at least a couple of people who did school shootings that posted about their intentions on social media before hand. People reported the messages to the police or FBI and they didn't take it seriously. It's better to deal with a problem while it is small before it turns into a big problem.
haha
I actually caut that. Guard said printer noises at 2:30. But we was told that She died at 1:38, I thought who was printing, they must have seen her, blood or the messed up room, after a fight or something. When ballien did not go deeper into it. I just left it.
Printers on a clock auto shutoff timer? That's the strangest thing about this whole case.
@@HepCatJack Tf is u talking about bro?
14:15 “it was ultimately her work ethic that put her in danger” this is why I have no work ethic
🤣🤣🤣
Relatable
if this is true then i'm basically immortal
I live by that
Actually it’s the boyfriends fault because he told the security guard she was there alone 👀 understandable, but that’s what put her in danger
ironic that her boyfriend telling the security guards to check on her is ultimately what condemned her
That’s exactly what I was thinking too.
Never let other dudes check on ur girl that was a rookie mistake man
Ik he must feel awful and then they suspect him on top of that poor dude
Who leaves their gf by themselves around a bunch a weirdo security guards that late at night anyway? I wouldn’t of trusted them to begin with. Knowing other ppl were around her again that late, would of made me stay. He was dumb.
Rude, you totally gave away the ending. Boo.
18:27 “and his cell mate immediately told on him”
🤣🤣🤣idk why but when he said that I burst out laughing.
Who was thinking the moment the boyfriend told the security guard his girlfriend was alone working that he just got her killed?
I saw this before the end and thought it was just a guess you had. Wow.. I bet her bf had to carry a lot of guilt..but who'd thunk it?
My thoughts exactly than he told another security guard to go look after her cause he was lazy I was well oops
Security guards are suss af I dont trust them..... im married to one and he wears black gloves al all times while working cause germs and im always like yeah okay buddy sure
Yep. Thought that too.
The minute the boyfriend said he had talked to a security guard I immediately thought it was the security guard
Freal. I know that dude's bunkie was like "tf did this man just say to me?" Idek how id respond hearing the sentence "I killed her to have my way with her feet." Id have to jaw check that man. Lost his life for some feet. Wild
Everytime you said West Philadelphia my brain would automatically add: "Born and raised!"
On the playground was where I spent most of my days
chillin out maxin relaxin all cool
And shooting some b - ball outside of the school
When a couple of guys - they were up to no good, started making trouble in my neighborhood
I got in one little fight and my mom got scared
This is a promising mini-series: Story-telling the weirdest, solved case and mysteries in MrBallen style
Yes
Hi
Yes
I agree, I really really like it
Brillant isn't he :)
I had a weird experience. My friend and I went shopping one afternoon, I wore a knee length dress and grey high heeled booties and she wore shorts and sandals. As we approached the parking garage I felt someone gaining on us, I looked behind me and saw a man with a camera strapped around his neck walking very fast and looking down at the ground. He seemed in a hurry but we didn’t feel threatened. But when we got near our car he came up behind us and blocked us in between cars and the wall so we couldn’t go anywhere, and he started rapidly taking pictures my ankles and feet zooming in and getting closer and closer until he was a couple feet away then moved on to her feet and did the same. I shouted at him to stop and leave us alone and tried to find my phone in my purse but he ran off before I could could see what direction he went. It all happened so fast. It’s creepy he had pictures of our heels and feet somewhere in his possession.
Omg
Jesus Christ that's both harrowing and kind of funny. Not funny that it happened to people, just funny because of absurdity like brother wtf are you doing w your time?
I know this reply is 2 years late but I hope you and your friend are ok now
That poor boyfriend will probably spend the rest of his life regretting his decision to leave her alone. :(
I'd magine he did
Might have been no problem had he NOT told the security guard she was alone. How's that for the brain, the worst of things can come from the best of intentions!
@@amsro9094 I saw a few comments victim blaming him.
And this is why in America we like to carry guns or tasers or pepper spray or whatever on us 24/7 'What are you so scared of all of the time?' Oh I don't know, highly trained military security guards with a foot fetish? We could start with that. You're never actually safe in any society if you don't take the proper measures to make sure you can protect yourself, it's the only person you can rely on.
There's no probably about it. He is. I'd go off the rails if I had been him. Probably would have tried to commit a crime that would land me in the same prison as the killer so that I could exact revenge.
But that's just me. I doubt anyone would consider it honourable.
The detective that took the case to that group of crime solving intellectuals was pretty savvy to do so. Good for him.
Does anyone else have an internal fight with themselves to not look at the comments so the ending of Ballen’s story isn’t spoiled!?? 😝
YESSSS OMG and when i give in to my temptation i INSTANTLY regret it cause the first comment is like “i honestly cant believe Nataly got away with it” AND IM LIKE “NOOOOO” lol i thought it was just me
Not that hard to just read them after the video…
Doing that now! Lol 😂
I just accidentally looked at the comment above yours and now I know who did it lol 🙄
YES!
Initially watching this reminded me of my days in grad school being alone in the college building late night on the weekends trying to finish video editing projects. The software is expensive. So I had to use the university computers. We didn't have guards. We would just get to the building during the late afternoon when it was open, sign in, and then stay for hours doing work while the building would get locked from the outside at night. Sometimes I'd finish really late and just walk back to my apartment at 3 a.m., not thinking much of it. I was about to say it would've been nice to have guards in our buildings, until I saw the ending. Such a heartbreaking story.
White tennis shoe fetish... Of all the things to lose your life over.
@H S I think that’s beyond weird... It’s advanced weird.
Sad
Its sad but I've heard many stories of gang members shooting people over a pair of expensive Jordan's or some other expensive pair of shoes.always makes me wonder if someone's ever eyeing me up when I come out of the house with a pair of my off-white nikes that I own since some of them can fetch a pretty penny.ive actually had one person offer me 2grand for a pair that i bought the day they came out for $250 and that was only a month after the shoes release.really sad that just a pair of shoes can make you a mark to some people.at least this poor girls family got some sort of piece being that their daughters killer was eventually caught and serving time for his murder.
What kind of shoes y’all got on rn? 🤪
@@cooliodiablo4571 none
18:18
Probably the epitome of "Weird flex but ok"
first
Bruh Eli is here
Fr lmfao u can tell the guys off just by his eyes lol
And yoooo dawg i remember you!!! Your weapon making skills are dope asf i used to be really into your channel fr
My favorite youtuber watchs my second favorite youtuber bro
He "tip toed" and "danced" around the investigation, but when he got in jail, he "put his foot in his mouth".
Absolutely superb 👏👏👏
😂🤣pmsfl hilarious 🤣
So gd its evil
🙄 are you SURE you aren't my mate 'Jim' lol
👁️👄👁️
Secret society detective: The culprit has a foot fetish.
Cold case investigator: How do you know that?
Secret society detective: *Nervous sweating
Not surprised though, when I heard about the missing shoes, I too had questions for that, so yeah, I understand that detective's pov.
When you mentioned he walked by at 2:15 am, immediate flags were raised in my mind. Typically, you don't print while working on a project until it's finished but you said she was mid sentence on her project at 1:38 am. That signaled to me either someone else had to be in there at that time OR he was lying.
And where were the print outs?
Yeah that was what bothered me too, i watched the first 15 minutes twice and the 2 main things that bothered me were the printer and the shoes. The backpack was found but the shoes werent? That in my mind meant that the killer moved the shoes far away but left the backpack?? Also what are the odds she lost both shoes AND socks during the struggle without the killer purposely removing them and as pointed above, moving them speficially. Also the security guards were the ones to know what the other was doing at any time and knew the area so i figured it was the security guard who had history and that the blood was from the janitor (nosebleed/cut?) which caused a mixup.
Either way i was wrong but it was fun!
That was my reaction, too. Who would be printing that late?
@@OneBlueKnightIn54 No printing after 10 p.m. He was lying about hearing the printers.
For me, the missing shoes did raise suspicion, I mean, _where were they ?!_ But more than that, I couldn't get over the missing socks! Like, what ? where ? how ? why ?!! The printer did not raise suspicion because back in my Univ days, I was overly cautious about my projects and, so as not to lose any material just in case I forgot to hit the "save" button, I would print every two pages of completed work.
The fact that people kill over their own obsessions, is just so terrifying. Ngl, I've become a little more paranoid since watching Mr.B lol
Same. Especially after watching the video where the guy was going into the girl's apartment when she was gone and when she found out he killed her.Some people truly are messed up! I love Mr Ballen's videos but they make my paranoia and anxiety skyrocket. 😬
I’ve become paranoid af after downloading the citizen app... 💁🏻♂️
@@summerwhite6 ooh yeah the one where he was getting interviewed and then he got all weird when they told him her body was found...?
literally
@@mistrjt9213 yup, the same.
Imagine
University president: use the buddy system, don't ever be alone while on campus.
* Gets the killer as a buddy * 😳
DANG IT
This was my thought exactly!
now you just ruined the felling of safety of the buddy system🤣
@@mccullawoodley2627 I'm sorry 😭
That would probably be the safest buddy tho no smart killer would kill someone they are always around
I find it a bit weird how he doesn't say jack about his involvement in the crime for years, even to the police and then blabs all of a sudden to some random cell mate? Unless he knew the game was up? it seems odd.
Some guys wanna seem tough the moment they get in because they don't want to be viewed as easy prey themselves. Maybe he figured that a fellow prisoner would "have" to be a kindred spirit?
A lot of people assume criminals will never snitch on you because of Hollywood
I'm fascinated now and would like a Story about The Genius Squad!
Same
Yup, I'm intrigued too
Yes. Please.
I’m in the Genius Squad... I’ll tell you a story ! Joke... I wish I was that clever , that sounds so cool 👍🏻
Same
I don’t know how y’all look for the secret when I’m on the edge of my seat enraptured in the stories. I always lose track of time listening to the story. Good for you if you can do both!
Lol, I never remember to look until he mentions it in the end...been doing that for about a year now. :)
I focus on the storytelling mainly.
Same Same I always forget, I'll even tell myself make sure to watch this time, then Dophh. Nope LOL
I never even give that a thought once he starts talking. He's the kind of guy you could listen to without making a "roll on" motion with your hand.
I listen while I’m doing other things, but even so, I doubt I’d remember to look for the secret!
It’s sad that Debbie never got her dream car, and her family had to wait such a long time for justice. I wonder if Debbie was his only murder.
Well he did have over 20 pairs of plastic wrapped shoes in his apartment
@A H where did you come to that conclusion? Of course they followed up on those. They most likely connected those to the robberies reprted by neighbors
It probably was. The rest were most likely stolen as murder would A) be too strenuous to clean up after and B) he had no reason to murder if he could just steal. Debbie was only killed cause thats the only way he could get those shoes
20 pairs of shoes wrapped up? At least 5 were murder victims and this is speaking statically 🤦♂️
@@raudy7856 it says in the video that he told his cell mate that he wanted to have his way with her feet, he did more than just kill her and steal her shoes from the sounds of it.
Half the time while I’m driving I don’t even listen to music anymore I just listen to Mr. Ballen’s strange, dark, and mysterious videos. 😊
It's surprising to think that the little lie of "I heard the printers working at 2:15am" was enough to figure it all out
That and his girlfriend/wife/ ex-wife gave him his alibi. smh
Honestly that part of his statement actually got me thinking he might be the prime suspect.
When I heard that my thought was, didn't her work stop mid sentence at 1.38 am? Why would the printer be on after that time?
Noah?
And why would he even say that, everyone knows when telling a good lie you give as much truth as possible so the lie is as small and believable as possible!!
In the history of RUclips, every other person just says the same “like this video” spiel and like 60% of the people who view it forget or just don’t bother....then here comes MrBallen, with hands down one of the best true crime/strange dark and mysterious content (delivered in story format) channels I’ve ever come across....and has me literally hitting the “like” button before he even starts talking because I’m already so stoked he posted a new video...and in the off chance one of us forgot to actually “like” it, he always manages to remind us in a completely new (and hilarious) way...bravo Sir Ballen...bravo 🙌🏻😍🤓
I always "like" something that I've watched, that way I know I've already watched it. Especially on channels where I skip around on the videos. Or if I miss a few, I'll know which videos I still need to watch.
Hahah thank you!!!!
@@MrBallen stopppp I just got SO excited that you saw my comment! I can officially die happy now 🙌🏻🙈😂 lol! I have to also say thank you so much for your service 🙏🏻...my dad was in Vietnam and has a Purple Heart also, and my grandpa (who is now 98 years old) flew B17 bomber planes in WW2...I’ll never be as cool as them lol but thought it was awesome when I finally went over and saw your IG! I absolutely love your channel my friend...keep up the awesome work! 🙌🏻😍
@@Carmen-us1ew I do that too! I wish there was another button or some sort of "already watched" icon because some peoples videos aren't that good but not bad enough to "dislike". My favorite channels, like MrBallen, I don't hesitate, though, and this is one of the few channels I don't mind seeing the videos more than once.
oooOOOooo MrBallen has a groupie 😉😂
I swear this guy is the best storyteller on earth. I was sleepy and looking for something to fall asleep to but I couldn't help but listen to the whole thing. He just captures your ears' attention.
So good at it he makes the stories seem fiction.
MrBallen, you are simply the best. I love your very impartial and neutral approach on all your histories. Great job!
This sounds like an overwritten murder mystery written by a 19 year old. Everybody is suspicious AF
it even had the obvious killer who actually isn’t the killer
And they all woke up and it was just a dreaaaammmm. That’s how I ended all my stories as a kid 😂
Indeed, however it is so easy to do that in an investigation, you have to work your way through the case and at one time or another there are different suspects who end up having nothing to do with the incident. That is just life, one person the one who was injured or killed may have contact with dozens of people over a day, especially in a large campus area, and suspicion follows the clues as they become known. That's just the way it has to be done. It would be great if every criminal would leave their student ID on the body but that doesn't happen all that often.
@@brianking9424 and start a story like this ... "it was a dark and stormy night, and debbie was working late" blah blah blah " and it was all just a dream" lol
It only sounds overwritten because your only perception of what a murder looks like are the fictional books you read.
In real life situations, they can be simple or highly complicated. There is no definition of what a murder truly looks like.
Throughout the story every guess I made I ended up retracting because the next suspect fit the story better.
I have never been more frustrated.
Thank you
A long list of garbage ass ppl. Well done, Drexel.
I think this is the perfect illustration of why it is essential for police investigations to be conducted meticulously. Even allowing for the fact that this was in story form, there was a heap of suspects, any of whom could easily have been charged (and probably found guilty) of the crime. If anything, this was one of those cases where the least likely suspect was the actual killer.
As soon as you said “it wasn’t sexual… but she was missing her shoes.” I IMMEDIATELY thought foot fetish.
Me too
@@jenniferwebb5954 Me three. I can't believe that was the thing nobody picked up on. You guys wanna go apply to the genius club? LOL
Absolutely
Literally I just commented to cus I thought of the SAMME thing
@Oskar winters that’s a bit rude my guy, they’re just having fun speculating with the case.
MrBallen please do the “Keddie Cabin Murder”
Edit: anyone who wants MrBallen to do the “Keddie Cabin Murder” please like or comments this. BTW it’s still an unsolved case tho, if I'm not wrong
I do, I’m curious to hear about it
He did cover that! Do a search, you'll find it 😉
Who else gets disappointed when MrBallen says” so that’s gonna do it guys”.
I shed a tear each time..
Not me, I just go watch another video. 😂
Every time
My wife and I are still new to his stuff so we have a lot to watch. but I hate waiting for new content usually.
Defienetly (No I don't care I misspelled that)
This was an odd one. But there's a group of geniuses who work on cold cases once a month?! Dude
there are groups of regular people who review cold cases and give their two cents as well.
Right?! That's awesome!
@Detective Dahlia it's been a long while since i heard of them. you might have to ask around.
Shout out to that janitor, being too good at her job
Just think! She would still be alive if the concerned boyfriend hadn’t hadn’t asked a murderous security guard to check on her. Technically Kurt got her killed.
Not good enough to notice the bloodstains apparently
@@MASFATNINJA that's actually sad, I wonder if he felt guilty after realizing that that bodyguard killed his gf
@@mingzhugame5698 probably, he seemed to really care for her.
@@MASFATNINJA Hindsight Harold
I KNEW IT! I used to study in my campus's basement computer labs all the time and they are EERILY quiet after about 10 pm. The lights are dim and the sound it muffled by the thick, reinforced concrete walls. There is no way Dixon could have seen & heard what he said; it had to be him. As soon as he said the other guard hadn't contacted him, my suspicion locked in. His alibi seemed way too neat. Maybe it was all my years evading creeps at night on campus, but this one felt obvious to me.
I had heard this story before. I remember it because like the victim I would stay past closing working in the radio lab. My University had one intern position with Marc Simone the NY Radio DJ and I wanted it.
The cleaning man knew I was there and he made me feel safe but, I was scared one day when a different man came in and startled me.
I screamed hysterically only to realize I was in a sound proof booth and no one could hear me. THAT terrified me so much I not only never went after hours again but, I changed my major.
Mr. Ballen made this story so real and interesting he had me on the edge of my seat even though I knew the ending!
How talented he is.
I'd love for him to do a radio podcast. #1 fan!
Sounds like a csi episode in the making. The sound proof room the terrible realization no one would hear you… ugh makes me sick
I'm curious how the guy you screamed hysterically at reacted.
The initial lineup of suspects feels straight out of a movie or television show with its variety of stereotypes:
You have the distraught boyfriend, the uncooperative security guard, the disliked PhD student, and the former-friend-turned-stalker. And of course it ends up being the squeaky-clean foot-fetishist. Classic.
*Jogger
Right, excellent point. It couldn't get any more stereotypical
They are stereotypes because they *are* so common. Husband/boyfriend/jilted boyfriend first. That's the vast majority of them. Then casual acquaintances. then those with an opportunity. Stranger murder, especially when it's up close and personal like strangulation, is very rare.
This actually was used in a movie called Urban Legend. It’s a decent slasher movie from the late 90’s and features this entire storyline as one of the main plot threads.
Urban legend if I recall was a little different. The killer turned out to be the lover of a man the girl accidentally killed during a prank and the security guard was never a suspect but I see what you mean still kind of similar
MrBallen never disappoints when it comes to the strange, dark and mysterious.
Or assaulting the like button
Well if strange, dark, and mysterious is your thing, you come to the right place.
That’s why we chased that like button down and beat it into submission 💪
@@JAKENMK well I like the like button, but I dont like like the like button.
@@patrickglaser1560 hundreds of cult members following in the same voice: “delivered in story format”
I’m I the only one who starts off by watching a few videos now I’m hooked😭😭😭❤️
The more I watch the more I become aware and how horrible so ppl really are…these stories are an eye opener and also @MrBallen you hav made every video I watched enjoyable and I was immersed in them….if I could have half of this ur story telling skills I would love it❣️🤲🏾…Well-done again I’m such that I will be watching this channel for a long time .
I clicked faster than Mr. Ballen could tell us how we are going to harass the like button today :)
honestly me too like the notification popped up and i stopped watching tiktoks to come watch this video
Looks like Dan Schneider just revealed his burner account...
John, you have a gift of story telling. Love you man! Keep 'er coming.
his names john ? 😳
@@bloodssoda6341 yes. John B. Allen :)
how is John
Most of the viewers dont know his actual name
Aww... thanks! I didn't know you ever heard me tell a story, though.. 😂
Can’t wait to hear this crazy one.
Thank you for showing Philadelphia in a good light and for helping have Deborah's case solved, (Vidocq Society).
“Wanted to have his way with her feet”- creepy as hell...
Never trust people who like feet...
Yea we had a serial killer in my city who was into feet
I showed this channel to my sister and now she an addicted fan to the strange, dark, and mysterious told in story format.
.....see what ya did there. smooth criminal
I'm addicted to the strange,dark and mysterious told in story format. If mr.ballen doesn't put out a new one I relisten to an old one.
@@G2K___ Is it an incest joke? I don't get it lol
@@Hacker_Kamyko hm, now that you mention it, it might be.. 🤔
I would love if you made a podcast titled “The Strange, Dark, and Mysterious”
OOOO YES !!
Yes please
YES
Would be a smart idea
"... in podcast format" xP
I want to say that uncovering these cases to public with whole info with every detail and every person and the photos he put a lot of hardwork and I am big fan of him
Keep up the great work 👍❤️
“Investigators know that generally when a woman is murdered the culprit is her romantic partner. “This is one of the saddest things I’ve ever heard.
It also leads to a lot of chases down rabbit holes, puts innocent people in prison, and leave cases ultimately unsolved due to police not paying enough attention to everything in front of them.
I think he meant that when a woman is killed in this specific way. Face to face strangulation and covering the body out of shame.
@@MsBELLE7 not that many innocents trust me.
@@solarose7820 ok! I’ll happily trust you despite not knowing you, and despite the fact that you provided zero evidence!
@@Joeysaladslover haha it’s a known fact. In cases of sexual assault/abuse/violence, fake accusations represent around 2% of all cases which is basically nothing. But somehow, too many people love to bring up the false allegations because it’s fits perfectly their sexist narrative that women lie all the time and that they just want to hurt men and men’s reputations, etc. Even tho factually most of rapists and abusers still keep their job ! Some even get promoted hahaha. If you want to stop the irony and dig deeper, it’s up to you to educate yourself, learn about the world and the injustice that women and minorities face everyday, I don’t owe you knowledge, I’m not your personal assistant, I can only bring awareness and hope you’ll find your way, bring your guard down and listen to the victims around you and maybe in the internet. You don’t have to carry all the world’s misery, but surely you can land a helping hand and be an ally to people who really need their voices to be amplified. Thanks and take care.
As soon as you said her boyfriend told the security guard to check on her because she was alone, I immediately thought it was that security guard. Then when I learned there were more security guards I was like, "It's one of them, I know it".
Never tell strangers your vulnerable loved one is alone. Especially in the middle of the night.
oh yes that led to a chain of events that led to her death. the security guard he told to look out for her, told the next who told the next who was the ultimate killer. Also the boyfriend left her alone which was a big mistake on his behalf. He could have just napped in the computer lab. a bit sad people are in universities that late when they could have a computer at home
@@cambed71 It was 1984, no one had a computer at home.
Me: it was the security guard.
MrBallen: no.
Also MrBallen: Yes
As a retired private who specialized in child molestation I told my grandson who wanted me to watch ur show that immediately it was the boyfriend or the security guard.....I enjoyed this I also did profiling and he is right it's always the little things
Nice frame for the day and the rest of your family 💗
your*
OMG! The moment I heard "her shoes were missing" my brain immediatel went to "I hope this isnt a foot fetish thing". And I was constantly nagged by the fact that if one SG says he told the other SG to check on someone and the other says he never got the said call, one of them is lying. Also, I thought, if she was killed at 1:38, how were printers working at 2:15? and who "checks" on people without poking their head into the room? Didnt make sense and I was sure it was one of the SG and must be one of the other two. So sad that someone's shoe and foot fetish got a girl killed (not even the actual stalker she had). True butterfly effect there.
I thot the same thing about that SG about hearing the printers so everything must be fine that didn't make to much sense to me and he had a military background nope he would of made sure she was ok but he wasn't gonna put himself in that room all alone with her that stood out to me I instantly said it's him.Now the foot fetish thing that caught me off guard lol that was a good catch by you there. 😁
Ladies, rape being all about power is a myth. It’s about sex. Don’t believe the myth. They’re just saying that so women can dress and act however they want and avoid responsibility. Dress and act how your want. But accept the consequences if you run across a psycho.
@@truthhurts837 you mean, someone like you? The only people who think like that are the ones who want to shirk responsibility of even trying to keep it in their pants if the woman doesnt want it. Do you have to go door to door informing people you have a name in the register? Too bad...
Ha. You don’t know me silly. You’re wrong. Most men think like this but they won’t tell silly women. I’m the most respectful person towards women you’ve probably ever met. You don’t want to here the truth.
Yeah I was wondering if the police said she was dragged and that’s how the shoes came off where are they? And the socks probably wouldn’t come off from being dragged! Does the killer like sneakers or the actual feet? What about all the shoes in his apartment? Did he kill other women to get them!
I FEEL LIKE A DAMN GENIUS WHEN HE SAID HER SHOES WE MISSING I IMMEDIATELY THOUGHT FOOT FETISH I FEEL SO SMART RIGHT NOW
It's pretty obvious shoes and socks don't fall of from being dragged over smooth tile and concrete and if they has been dragged over a high friction surface there would be indicators on the feet them self
Don’t spoil it!
Same
@@Ahuman-pl7qo: Well why wouldja come on down here before finishing the video Silly..?.
Lol. But seriously, you will honestly ALWAYS see spoilers down here. Sheeeeeeesh!!
Yeah shoes coming off from being dragged is reasonable but socks...
I love when mr. Ballin tells strange, dark, and mysterious stories in story format.
You should do the Kyron Horman unsolved case. It’s local to me and his mom still is sending out search parties 10 years later because she refuses to give up! She deserves closure. How do we get this unsolved murder society help her??
According to Vidocq's website, the Kyron Horman case does not fit their criteria because there's no body and no crime scene (according to the Wikipedia article).
I guess you could try and find organisations that do try to solve missing persons cases?
This just became an ad for Teva Sandals. "If you're wearing our ugly-ass sandals, consider yourself safe!"
The preference for white athletic shoes was definitely off the beaten path. So to speak.
Daaaawwww..... I love Teva sandals....
@@ViragoRiver me too! Love Teva's. They make your feet stink but are super comfortable.
Untill a guy with a fetish for ugly sandal feet comes along.
😂 They are ugly but great
I am obsessed with the STRANGE , DARK, and MYSTERIOUS. And I am literally binge watching Mr.Ballen .
💯🖤
I've been binge-watching him for about a week now
I have not taken the garbage out for two days,,,,,watching these mysteries till dark and,,,,,,,,,,,,
@@shanny4306 he's got a gift..
@@shanny4306 all ya gotta do is watch a story thay creeps you out enough that you can't sleep... then click on another story. Lol
I wish he would take that baseball cap off and show all his gorgeous hair. Philadelphia USA
The second you said he heard printers after 2 when she was already attacked, I immediately thought it was him. Damn, I'm actually very minorly impressed with myself lol
Ye thought the same. Computer input was set to 1:30, printers were heared at about 2
@@Falorik Same-same, but different.
“Detective Hammer” sounds badass
I wondered how no one picked up on that. Did they just not say that to the geniuses? Like at least ask for who was there for information if you believe him.
don’t be, you’re not that special 😊
I love mrballen's stories especially the scary stories . I came across him about a month ago now I'm addicted.
*But, Lord Jesus was Right there to HeLp Her!!!*
The cellmate was like aweee hell naw not my feet n he told on him hahaha
Yes this story is covered in the book The Murder Room. It's about the society of investigators that are who figured this out. The brilliant psychological profiler Richard Walter immediately thought of the paraphila of shoes. Amazing men and women doing the very best of their fields work.
LOL I can’t even find them when I’m told exactly where to look
I graduated HS from a tiny school in a podunk small town. We had CCTV security systems installed in every school in the district and all admin buildings over the summer between my 6th &7th grade years, so mid/late 80s. I just don't understand why this isn't common practice in every room, dorm, hallway and along campus pathways on EVERY college/Uni campus in the U.S. Surveillance is everywhere else it SHOULDN'T be, so why is it never where it's needed in well populated areas? There's no reason the colleges can't afford to have state if the art surveillance systems with motion detection, infrared & all the other BS needed to see regardless of light, weather and they definitely can also afford to keep the flora on the grounds well manucured weekly AND have the entire system tested biweekly or monthly. It's just negligence for them not to have what more than half the INTERIORS of private homes now have. Period.
You know what I just realized....I have watched every single one of Mr B's stories and every one has been good
I always find it so interesting how intricate some people's lives are. When investigating a murder, the poor victim has no secrets left. Imagine having a violent stalker, but being murdered by someone else !!
Yeah I genuinely worry about this. I’m into true crime stories and I live alone so my habits are very weird…can’t wait to see what they say about me haha.
The stalker has the same name as my husband
@@ashleyherrera6359 Are you sure they aren't the same person?
@@billbauer9795 positive, I hope. Lol
@@ashleyherrera6359 LOL
I think whoever disliked should have their uncrustables recrusted.
🤣 good one!
Brutal lol
😂
Bonus points for sentiment and originality, but Uncrustables can't be re-crusted any more than crusted. It's in the name.. and those are never inaccurate. /s
I don't understand how anyone can dislike his videos in general.