This Chatroom KILLS People -- SOLVED Mysteries, Episode 2
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- Опубликовано: 2 дек 2020
- After surviving a stabbing, a 14 year old boy identifies his attacker, who quickly confesses... But what seems like an open and shut case quickly unravels when 100s of other people inside a teen chatroom are implicated....
Highlight from today's episode 👉 1:12
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You are at the end. Nothing more exists beyond this. Promise.
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☠︎ Found the secret easter egg in today's video? Be the 1st to comment what it is and where it occurs in the video, and you will get pinned!! ☠︎
whos that there hiding behind that there safe 15:15 is it Michael?
Good job!! You found the secret!
Even now I still can’t see it 😂
Edit: o wait, I think the time stamp was messed up on the premiere. I can see it now
You beat me by a minute darn it
@@MrBallen Man that was a tough one! keep up the good work man love your videos!
I was your 2nd like
"Holy crap, the same thing happened to me!" - Mark, after watching this video.
I really laughed out loud to this 😂
@@genevieveclements7487 same XDD
Ahahahaha 🤣😂😉
Lol
😂😂😂🤣
This dude created his own stage, characters, and drama. Even had the guts to kill himself off. Damn, that's commitment and downright scary.
I wanted to like this but it had 69 likes and I couldn't ruin it
Yeah. Reminds me of that South Park episode, _"1%",_ where Cartman shoots and "kills" Polly Prissypants.
14 years old at that!!
*Morgan Freeman's voice*
- "John went on to become a successful filmmaker under his new name, Quentin Tarantino"
@@gilgamesh5796 Lol I think that comment just made my whole day... thanks
That was so painful to listen to because as soon as he said "Rachel didn't have a webcam" you just knew it was all a scam. You think at some point he surely will realise what's happening, but he keeps getting deeper and deeper into this mad story.
Yeah, especially since (fake) Rachel had a job at a gym so she could have definitely afforded a web cam.
I guess catfishing wasn't as common knowledge back then
Not really. Some ppl aren't confident enough to show themselves but are real ppl.
Thi was 2003. Webcams weren't as common or cheap as today...
Jesus loves you 🐫🐘🐧🐊🐢🐣🐈🐩🐕🐒🐅🐆🐎🐂🐪🐐🐗🐖🐄🐃
Personally, I think the concept of the court deciding you’re too stupid to use the internet without supervision is hilarious 😂
This is going to get worse with Ai now, all sorts of crazy manipulation will happen
janet "if anything goes wrong the safe code is 6969"
mark: ""yea this is definitely still real"
fr out of all the codes there could possibly be lol.
That was my first pager code 😂😂 then my first voicemail code.....and I'm pretty sure i used it for a while after getting my first smart phone.....like probably a million others lol
I didn't even post this because I knew it wouldn't take long before I found someone who said it. BTW, my name is James Bourne, Agent 420. I have a mission for you.
@@a-a-ron6822 somebody steal this blokes keycard
lol that safe code is so absurd it could be true though unfortunately.
John really said, ‘written, produced, and directed by John’
AND acting in as he played himself +
They actually DID make a movie loosely based on this court case -> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uwantme2killhim%3F
hahahaha
@Aya M he’s the main antagonist, protagonist, and the side character
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I was completely dumbfounded when I reached the "twist" of this case. Holy God that takes dedication to another level. John was completely mental and manipulative while Mark was really gullible. I hope he learned his lesson after this.
As soon as I heard Janet knew what mark was was wearing I knew it was john, I didnt expect John to be all 180people in the room though, thats crazy
Just watched 2 years late, and wow-this is probably the craziest story I have watched on this channel so far. The ending was a lot more surprising than that of many horror films. Reality dismantled fiction with this one. The whole thing was unbelievable.
Another late watcher here, I knew Janet was john as soon as I heard Janet knew what mark was wearing BUT I didnt expect john be all 180 people in the room
This should be a movie
Imagine being in charge of nearly 200 chat accounts and trying to keep them straight. That’s such an insane amount of work. Damn. Dude was committed.
And still have good grades at school 💀
Lol guy needs 190 personalities to make 1 friend who he then tells to kill him.
people on twitch do it all the time
@@TheEpicSpire moral of the day: do not use twitch
I mean, the dude literally incited his own murder... you can get more commited than that
Suddenly I don't feel so dumb for sending the Nigerian prince all that money
Lmao
😂😂
Lordy...🤣🤣🤣...
😄🤣
The sad thing is there are people who don't get this reference
Reminds of the time I was moderating a forum, back in the days.
There were two members (Mephisto and Faust) who hated each other. They were always looking each other up to throw insults at one another. They were both quite entertaining with their insults: comedy gold. At the beginning. After some time the funny insults became darker, spiraling out of control into actual death threats. So with Faust being the more reasonable one, we moderators decided to ban Mephisto from the forum.
Years later Faust - you guessed it - admitted that he and Mephisto were the same person. We had a good laugh about it but I remember that he said something that I found weird at the time. He said that, at one point, when Mephisto was insulting Faust to the bone, it made him/Faust feel angry. That feeling was too weird even for him and that was the reason he started Mephisto to threaten his life, so we had no choice than to ban the latter.
Apparently, taking on different personas messes with your brain. At one point they become (almost) real in your head. I believe that's what happened to John.
I wonder if the person you interacted with had some mild form of DID
John really should have worn a bullet proof vest that could deflect a knife blade. And when Mark realized he couldn't kill him, John would say "You've completed the test! You weren't supposed to kill me. But Rachel is a double-agent and we set up a trap to catch her. It also confirmed your ability to carry out missions that may require terminating someone." From there, John could keep up the ruse and have Mark go on a multitude of missions.
that actually wouldve been so cool
I don't actually think bullet proof vests could stop knives. I don't know what they're made out of now but from what I remember a knife could stab through. The vest only slows and weakens the impact of the bullet so it doesn't pierce your skin.
@@onewaystaircase they can but the plates are designed to break apart so depending on the force am the knife it may not work but we had some really dumb privates in the army that tried to stab each other so I've seen it work
🤣
@@onewaystaircase they work pretty well on knives. even the ones without plates. The design of bulletproof vests is to stop something from penetrating all the way through them, if a bullet cant penetrate all the way through, a knife blade from a stab will also have ALOT of trouble. you would still be hurt some from the force of the stab, but you wouldn't be cut.
but there is also such a thing as stab-proof vests.
“6969”
Mark: sounds legit
your friend makes a joke mark oh shit
Ahh double noice
as someone named mark I can confirm it does sound legit to me
Keep the 420 likes on this comment
@@gn4sh7 ah nice I like it
MrBallen is the type of person everyone would want around the campfire
So true bro . He'd be the best Scary story teller EVER .
Yea right I'd have no ammo left by the time the sun came up 😂 unloading in any direction a noise came from 💯% !!
SO many good stories
YES!!!
And sing our campfire song
This was so interesting , the plot twist was amazing lmao got me shocked
This story kind of reminds me of that detective who would call fast food chains and tell them their pretty teenage employees were being investigated and he needed the managers of that restaurant to detain her and read her rights, which then he would tell them to strip search them for him then he would make them do cavity searches on these girls, and so on and so on. Of course, he wasn't a real detective, he was just a pervert with a power complex making prank calls and getting off on making people sexually assault teenage girls for him. Even got turned into a movie. Not sure if Ballen's ever covered this story, but if you're reading this, Sir, and you haven't then I'd recommend looking into the details for another video. Just look up Donna Jean Summers, Louise Obgorn or Walter Nix. Or look up the movie Compliance. Story's freakin' crazy.
The movie is called “Compliance”.
Wtf 😲
There was the movie and also an episode of Law and Order: SVU that used that as part of the plot of an episode. Robin Williams guest starred as the guy who made the call.
I remember when the story was in the news, though. I'd rather lose my job than strip for a manager who says the cop on the phone said to. I probably wouldn't have been as assertive as a teen, though...
@@hprotz6600 I forgot about that episode! Which is odd because Robin Williams' darker roles are so memorable. One Hour Photo gave me chills.
Yeah, it's unbelievable this was able to happen. I mean, as a teen, what can you do? The manager wouldn't let you leave if they are thinking police are coming for you, so I get that they probably knew they were in a hopeless situation. What gets me is how did the managers fall for this? What cop would tell people over a phone to do their job for them, with no regards to the girl being read her rights? I mean, it didn't seem odd to them that the cop or any other officer wasn't there in person to arrest her or even show them an ID to confirm? I can be naive but even I know a citizen can't just be strip searched without being read their rights. Maybe the manager was afraid of getting in trouble too. Or perhaps it could've just been a power thing. The "cop" gave them a sense of really being in charge of someone and they took it. That's even more disturbing.
@@chelseabellamy6993I remembered the episode because I recently rewatched it, tbh. And One Hour Photo was amazing and creepy.
It's because most people will defer to authority over their own good sense too often. The Milgram Experiment, Stanford Prison Experiment, and Third Wave Experiment all show that. And those are the relatively controlled examples. People in Nazi Germany went along with that to avoid repercussions, same during American slavery and the Civil Rights movement.
Especially if you've been conditioned to respect/obey authority or that those in authority have more knowledge than you do, you're likely to go along with things. It doesn't help that lots of people don't know their own rights, so wouldn't know *to* argue against what happened with those teens...The human mind is both amazing and terrifying in what it can be convinced of.
(ETA: The guy calling the restaurants wasn't actually a cop, just impersonated one...)
Can’t imagine being stabbed by a friend just to hear
“I’m sorry bro”
it's what my friends would say
Just another day
Wdym....he pretty much asked/made his friend take a knife stab him in the gut lol cuz he was madly in gay love with him...like some twisted gay soap oprah
He knew it was coming, he told him exactly where and when to do. He probably came when he said he loved him before stabbing him
By your crush*
So before Mark ever joined the chatroom John had 189 fake accounts and was having fake conversations between them...thats already disturbing.
I would like it but 69
@@Cubetuber nice
I think there were some other real people in it just a lot of them were fake
@@clt6592 that's sounds like you always do that. Creepy
@@SoMooLand1nine7 😂😂😂
Holy.... wow. I did not expect that twist. My jaw literally dropped
I like how at the start MrBallen established how "dumb" Mark is, so him believing crazy stuff is actually plausible.
Imagine the Jury listening to all this and trying to understand what actually happened.
They'd be constantly waiting to hear "And this is when Mark realized none of this was real.." and never hearing it
They would have understood in first attempt if mrballen was the narrator
Now imagine one of the jurors is named Janet.
I'm still unclear of what happened 🤣🤣
Hahahahaha
Nigerian prince: my bank is frozen I need your help
Mark: sounds legit
Plot twist, Mark was also the Nigerian prince conning himself, unfortunately Mark didn’t realize he was conning himself until it was too late.
My roommate fell for this...... Twice.
@@benaltoboarder u need a new roommate
I actually, truely work for a bank in London. Your family member that youve never met was extremely rich and recently passed away. He left you 25 million dollars, but the only way to access this account and get you your inheritance you must pay the $5,000 lawyer fee. Please western union me the money right away. If we don't act fast the money will be lost forever and siezed by the government.
HA! 😂
Something strangely similar to this happened to some of my friends when I was a teenager. It didn’t involve attempted murder or anything and wasn’t quite this dramatic. But it’s amazing how gullible and manipulative teenagers can be online. I’ve seen it first hand.
You're so good, I picked up the habit of liking every one of your videos before the video even starts 😂
Suicide by murder. Of himself. Some of the craziest stuff I’ve ever heard.
naaa he never intended to die or even get hurt ,.. remember abort code 6969 ,..he just got surprised before he could say 6969 to mark. "I'll include my solve log below"
im 4 and 1 so far
MY SOLVE/ OR FAIL NARRATIVE THOUGHT PROCESS.
6:05 RED FLAG possible catfishing
6:53 more convinced of catfishing ,..ol i don't he a cam line.
8:02 new arrival Kevin is actually the catfishing person?
9:24 convinced kevin is Rachel ,.. trying to lure the boy mark to a place to kill him perhaps.
12:31 kevin returns,.. the give away ,.. he is trying to hard to make a difference in the way the text he writes is written,.. people faking multiple accounts often do this ,.. all capos for 1 identity ,.. all pink in this case ,.. this is so they can keep them organized intheir own mind as much as it is to mislead others.
2 people may type that way but most don't ,.. 3 in a row is an action
much like anything else in life my thinking is always 1st-time coincidence, second-time happenstance, the third time a clear tell of intent.
13:42 kevin aka mystery woman ,.. sets mark up to kill people claiming it is part of the test for him to be an agent ,.. I call solve at 13:42
16:12 kevin knew because mark was on the chat all day ,what he wore, where he was etc ,.. mark didn't know this "possible kevin was ghosting lurking in chat without being seen... or john is actually the catfisher and has played him all along "he's the only one that could have known all the daily onmark if the catfisher wasn't gleaning the info from ghosting.
17:36 abort code 6969 ,.. possible kevin viewed this as a prank ,.. the code allowing him to stop it from actually happening " hmm perhaps his way to end the sick game and he lost connection or couldn't complete the 6969 part so the attempted murder continued?
REVEAL yes it was John
"I'm guessing marks attack surprised him before he could orchestrate the 69 69 abort lie. lol
p.s. I'll take a half credit on this one,.. i was surprised it was actually john but I had listed as a possibility in my process. dayum now I'm 4-1-1
haha just made a similar comment, agreed on some of the craziest shit I've ever heard. "Inciting your own murder", now that's a fucked up charge.
@@MYshamanEYE he literally set the whole thing up he knew at every moment what was gonna happen. As soon as mark asked him to go to the alley he knew what it was. If he didn’t wanna get hurt he would have said the code then.
For me the only way your logic would make sense is if he wanted to literally get it down to the last second while mark pulls his knife he says the code and it turns marks world upside down. The whole thing would literally be for that moment and to see the look on marks face bewildered asf.
I gotta give him an "A" for effort! That is the most creative way I have ever heard of somebody trying to commit suicide.
I’ve heard about a case or two where someone hires a hitman to kill him, as in suicide by hitman… one case he went broke and wanted his family to get the insurance money.
@@DosYeobos but he still had money to hire a hitman on himself 🤔
@@GenetMJF the hitman was like 10k whereas his life insurance payout was in the hundreds of thousands, close to a million if I remember correctly. When I say broke, I mean that basically he knew that he wasn’t going to continue to be able to afford to take care of his family, even if he was able to scrape together 10k he knew that wasn’t enough to sustain his family for very long and I guess he thought it would be better for them if he spent the remainder of his money on this plot to kiII himself so they could get the insurance payout.
@xbox gamer nope, after the guy was found murdered in his car, the police discovered the real plot when they tracked down the “hitman” who confessed, which voided the policy. I tried finding the case just now, I watched a show on the ID channel about it maybe 5 or so years back, but when I searched all I could find was a very similar case that happened a year ago with a guy from South Carolina arranging his own murder so his son could collect the insurance.
This kind of reminds me of 'One Of Us Is Lying' by Karen M. McManus (if you've read the book you'll know what I mean. For those who haven't, read it and you'll understand).
Wow, that’s wild…. I have to say listening to your stories is reminding me to teach my kids about common sense and discernment, way more often than I already do. Way too many weirdos out there that want to take advantage!!!
there have been a lot of really messed-up stories on this channel, but this one blew me away
5 years after the trial.....
Mark: "So when's Janet getting here?"
Everyone else: 🤦
Imagine being duped like this.
Imagine having the time and energy to be 180 different people all logged in nearly all the time.
I can barely keep a conversation going with 1 person lol.
@@ReblQueen yo same
@@ReblQueen...
Had a similar dealo chick Played as herself first with a false identity, a non existent gay older brother, her own sister, sometimes conversations would be on the computer where she played as her older non existent brother while texting me with a separate conversation and just wait...she did this to many men at the same time.... I was mind blown
My like is 666 so I unliked it
John to Mark: "You're killing me!"
Yeah... you told him to...
If he didn't say anything then Mark would know something was fishy. John had to act it out
@L This story is kinda funny but at the same time super sad I think the ending was bittersweet also imagine what their parents reaction was when they got told the story? O_0
@@gamesgames2389 let me guess.. 🤔..
You're between 12 and 20 - am I right?
(just tryna test a theory lol)
@@lizhall4473 Whats the theory?
@@applesource8261 A personal one. 😊
That’s why parents need to tell these stories to their kids! 🏴
Your storytelling is absolutely brilliant!
The best part is how they have restraining orders against each other but without their approval lol. The government really said "ok just stay away from each other so we dont have to deal with this again"
RWBY
Imagine being the only person ever charged with inciting your own murder
Mah dude John kinda went down a legend
That is downright some matrix stuff, how just how do INCITE your own murder. This sounds like there was john from another universe trying to kill his past self but was arrested by the future government of trying to end his own life. 😭😭
Can he beat goku tho
@@MrTerrorM yes
Pretty C🤍🤍L
This changed my life. Thank you.
this was the first time i had to laugh at one of your episodes. "...which no one was ever been charged with"... thanks a lot for weeks of content to fill my boring workshifts. and best of luck to you and your family!
Honestly, I’m amazed “Mark” figured out how to get into a chat room.
Surprised he even could open the laptop lid
😂😂😂😂
BAH
🤣😂😬🤦🏾♀️
True
This is, hands down, one of the craziest stories I've ever heard. Humans be scary, y'all.
Teens be stupid yo.
Im waiting 4 aliens to take me. Im done lol
Right ✅
And they can also be unbelievably stupid
“The person is smart, but people are dumb, frantic, panicky, and you know it!
500 years ago, everyone KNEW that earth was the center of universe”
Thanks MrBallen for another great story!! ❤❤❤❤
I have officially found my new favorite story.
"He isn't a very bright person"
He wasn't even close to bright
True
Hey wasn't even dim.
The inside of a buried coffin is brighter than this guy...
😂😂😂😂 i literaly thought the same
Mans was vanta black
One day, John woke up and was like "I'm gonna gaslight my friend into killing me."
i dont think you know what that word means
@@nessiie Probably used it incorrectly, but I do know what itr means.
@@crazyfun95 lmao. So what did you actually mean?!
@@Django0324 Replace the word "gaslight" from my original comment with "trick" or "manipulate" and that's more what I meant.
@@crazyfun95 fair enough. 👏🏽
Incredible story thank you John
I love the fact you put the stranger things theme in the background (I think so) it makes it exiting,your videos are really good
The prime definition of a toxic relationship.
also a gay relationship
@LEGENDARYPIZZA11 indeed
But technically they never hurt the other without consent
More like toxic wasteland.
Is it wierd that I find it toxic but dare I say lovable? Like I find it cute(obviously still completely messed up)............i think I need to see a therapist😆🤧
Inmate: “what are you in here for?”
John: “inciting my own murder.”
Inmate: “I’m sorry, what?”
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The comments are gold on this video.
I laughed my ass off when I read this one too. 😂😂😂😂😂
"inciting"
I understood only mark went to jail. Not John
@@xo2308
Hmm... I'm conflicted with that one.. shouldn't he have gotten some jail time too? At least like, 3 months or something
@@zeearts9484 3 months?! WAAAAAY more than that. And Mark shouldn't get any time at all. His only crime was being stupid. John was full out gaslighting the dude. Since the only person he hurt was the guy gaslighting and manipulating him he should have gotten off while John got attempted murder.
I think this has to be the most craziest story I've ever heard 😳
Heck of a story, that!!! Thank you
SPOILER
Imagine joining a huge discord server and everyone's just one guy
a total bummer, lol!
pretty much Facebook and twitter.. except its not "one guy".. its "one mind"
@@flipnap2112 💯
@@flipnap2112 exactly lol
SPOILER WARNING
"Catfished," the horror story.
Indeed
@Amme Smith yea
WOW... My jaw dropped and I got literal chills that's insane.
bro really pulled a "it was me barry" in court
This is one of the weirdest stories I've ever heard.
Straight movie shit
It really is like wtf😳
Right! Wtf was all I could say
It still doesnt feel real, it feels like it didnt happen in real life
Can someone explain tho? I don't really understand the ending...So the person who got arrested was the person that got stabbed? Didn't Mark get any jail time for stabbing someone? I'm sooo confused by this story, please help me understand lol
John is the puppet master. His dedication of talking to each of his impersonated characters is unbelievable . Created his own world.
the guy could have potential as a writer.
@@nostalgicbliss5547 or the next Serial Killer!!
@@shannonreaves4722 Unless he kills himself twice.
It's kinda freaky that he's probably still out there, especially as a Brit. Luckily, I avoid anyone from Manchester. Horrible accent.
@@scarletamazon3455 lmao
Man that was some twist I didn’t see coming! Such a messed up thing to do! I’m glad being online these days is a lot safer than what it used to be, and even tho I’ve always been careful I still have my own story..
It's fascinating listening to this again once you know the twist....
Still trying to understand how John got away with impersonating over 100+ people in this chatroom. WHAT??? That twist was so random and unexpected!
I think there were still a lot of real people on the server, as the server was not even made by John himself
@@oldgregrl1934 okay that makes a lot more sense! You can never trust the internet, goodness
I guess he just mainly faked the accounts in their "private chat room". Rachel, Kevin and the agent. Everything else would not be possible to execute believable.
I've impersonated at least 40
He said that John had made up hundreds of accounts
I do believe that is the strangest story Ive ever heard in my life.
Crazy... I always google them after. Strange world.
It is totally mad. It’s so confusing.
is this fake?
@@davinarobertson47 No lol the story is on google
@@davinarobertson47 - well, I’m from the U.K. and I’ve never heard this story before.
Love rewatching this legend i love mr ballen and family blessings and love from ireland 🇮🇪 im watching fron u wer in ur thousands NOW LOOK AT YOU MAN BLOWING UP N SHITTY 🎉🎉🎉❤❤ So happy for u 🎉🎉❤❤❤
Bro insane story keep up the great story
MrBallen's the best storyteller on RUclips. I can't believe that I have been continuously binging on all his videos for the past 3 days and still craving for more. Lots of respect to you.
SAME!
Thank you so much!!!
In total agreement! He is a born story-teller!
@@MrBallen love the stories! Come home from work and check for new content almost everyday.
I agree
The only person ever arrested for inciting their own murder.😂
Lmao
Selfie-cide?
That's crazy
Indirect suicide leaving someone else to take the blame
@@vextract4662 lol
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This made me feel like I was watching a black mirror episode!
HOLY EFFED UP STORY!!! LOVED IT!
Once every hour, someone is involved in an internet scam.
That man is Mark.
This comment is the best one on here 🤣 lmao
Wow
Love the office/e though
He really is
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A 14-year old that can manipulate a 16-year into murdering him and has the ability to run a chat room with over a hundred accounts, create fantastical stories, keeps it all straight AND doesn't abort the murder plot is beyond frightening to me. What kind of adult is John going to become? Hopefully he's under some sort of psychiatric supervision/monitoring.
Maybe he's a real spy now
@@melodicseaweed387 he should be!
a fantastical story? did we hear the same story about an undercover adult secret agent who offered a 14 year old to be his girlfriend and an underwater safe which can only be opened by a random 16 year old
@@cvvyc Fantastical means fantasy, not that it's 'great' or a good story.
@@RiderOfTheRohirrim is it not a good story??
This… was truly one of the stories of all time
I never saw this coming. This is just mindblowing. I'm absolutely flabbergasted.
Even though mark was manipulated, I still think it’s weird he got off that easy. He was literally prepared to kill a friend because a random person on the Internet told him to, seems kinda dangerous.
Yeh i agree, you can not make someone kill another unless they want to do it and clearly he wanted too lol
Kinda?? lol. Dude definitely belongs in a psyche ward.
Well yes, but also a child that's been groomed for sex would need to get a sentence in your theory... So no, not really... "John" should've gotten a worse sentence for taking advantage, then coarsing for murder, then attempted murder... Which should've landed him with a good few years behind bars..
Also impersonating an officer
Every soldier in the military kills for the government, just like mark thought he would kill for the government.
I've heard of some bizarre cases but I genuinely had no clue where this was going. The situation went from sad to weird to confusing do downright hilarious. Aside from the mental trauma it seems both sides got a slap on the wrist and the judges were like "IDEK man, just stop talking to each other and I swear if you're on chat rooms again..."
Would have loved to have a window into the mind of the judge in this case....people do some strange stuff. After what I have seen done online I'm scared of humanity.
It's more likely because a) they were minors and b) the British justice system is EXTREMELY lenient in comparison to other countries like the US. I live in England and a life sentence here is I think 25 years and you can be let out after about 12 years with good behaviour.
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I'm surprised either one wasn't forced to go into therapy. WTH?
It a movie
been watching these for years lost count :) but still 2023 and didnt see this one from 2 years ago so much content 1 shout out to mr ballen for being a youtube legend :)
Absolutely incredible how gullible some people are.
As someone with over a decade of experience in chatrooms, I saw red flags *everywhere*
What I wasn't expecting was the twist at the end.
Same. At first I thought Rachel was Kevin and just wanted attention.
Haha what you've failed to see, is unless you've met or video chatted with a person on multiple occasions.
Its possible All of them were just 1 stalker lol
Having no multiple accts doesn’t make you a stalker 🤣
Yeah, It’s been years since I have really participated in a chatroom but I grew up in sort of the golden era of dial up and AOL and chatrooms. They were very exciting back in the day and like most kids who were 10 in the year 2000 a big part of adolescence was going online and messing around in chatrooms… It really was the wild west back then. probably around 2003ish we went from dial up to a dedicated connection where I could be online whenever I wanted without disturbing the phone line. I was young and obviously more naive but it does not take a rocket scientist to quickly figure out that people lie in chatrooms and send fake pictures, never assume anyone is who they say they are.
I actually ended up getting in quite a bit of trouble for some “hacking” type of shenanigans I was involved in. I kind of joined this collective of other young people interested in hacking and I was sort of known for being pretty good at “social engineering” where you basically trick humans to gain access into things. It’s just another form of hacking… you can spend a weekend trying to crack a password using code and various programs or you could just straight up try to trick the target into giving it to you. So I made this fake AIM Account called Eric Wilmaz AIM - a completely fake name and idk why I remember it damn near 20 years later. I would send a message to the target and also there was a a command to insert these really official looking lines into messages… it was like shift + s or something but it would insert a big bold line in the body of the message. I would make it sound more professional but I would send a message along the lines of hey at 8:47:22 PM we detected a login from your account in Laredo Texas 000.000.0.0 (fake IP address) please confirm you are the correct user. please type your password case exact as you entered it to log in.
I swear I am not exaggerating when I say this had like a 40% success rate. I would astounded how well this worked and I will admit I was a little asshole but I also would log into peoples accounts and boot them off, then change their password but I never really did anything malicious… maybe I might send a message to someone on their buddy list and say like haha I stole your friends account… often the owner of the account would message me through an alt screename or a friends account and ask me to please give them their account back and I would proceed to share with them what I changed the password to, give them a little lecture about security and be on my way allowing them to take the account back. I say all that to say that some people (especially kids) were EXTREMELY GULLIBLE especially in the earlier days of the internet… I worked with a guy who shared a story about how a few years ago he thought he was talking to a girl and proceeds to send a dick pic with his face included. This “girl” who was actually some scammer type he was talking too proceeds to blackmail him threatening to send the picture to all his facebook friends… he actually complied with the demands and sent them $250… of course a day later they turn around and demand more money and he ends up refusing the demands and they went and sent this picture to like 50+ facebook connections he had. This happened in 2015 to a guy in his mid 20’s lol.
You font need to be a member of a chatroom to see these red flags. They were all very obvious, with the exception of John being behind it all.
Lol. He was the only guy ever charged with “Inciting his own murder”. I don’t know why that is so hilarious to me.
lol made me laugh too
Bwahahaha
You are not alone.. I can’t stop laughing my arse off!
It’s so ridiculous it ends up being hilarious.
Finally a top comment that's not just normies amazed at how youtube works
@@schweedies4597 you are just too cool for school aren’t you hun?
RUclips is for everyone
Be nice 👍
I was young once too, and I'll admit being far from brilliant or perfect, but I don't think I would have ever believed that anyone in a chatroom was a spy or lover. Then again, I was never an optimist even as a youngster.
I wonder if that could be considered SUICIDE?
Great story, and a twist one wouldn't think of. Thanks again.
“And he was just not a very bright person.” The nicest insult I’ve ever heard.
Also the most accurate
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Mark: 🔪 I’m sorry bro
John: understandable have a nice day ✌🏻
LMAO
this is so funny
Ay no homo dawg.
Nah you good dawg.
Lol!!
Lol
Wait a minute. So "John" was accused of the murder of his ownself. This is one of the craziest story I've ever heard in my life, especially from a legal point of view. Thanks Mr Ballen. You're always delivering the best stories.
Omg this is extremely interesting. This theme of shame and need is what I talk about all the time in my videos. The Internet allows people to actually go way too deep into fake personalities and those are people who are not affected with DID those are regular people who feel deep shame about who they actually are and whom they actually are in love with. So they use those sock accounts to be "close" or "connected" to the person they want to be with. I observe the same thing in RUclips chat rooms. I too have been seriously tricked into believing that some of those characters were for real and independent persons but they are not. Some guys in the chat room have more than a hundred fake accounts which they use to generate drama interactions trying to pull real people such as myself into the drama trying to make me jealous, trying to see how I react to the fake ladies that are "interacting" with the guy who is behind all of those accounts. I think that the fear of rejection is so astronomical in many men (way more than in women) that they are willing to fabricate worlds of imaginative people and interactions in order to hide behind facade faces, make themselves seem more interesting, pretend to be rich, change their ethnicity and gender, pretend to look differently, pretend to be educated etc. One guy drew me in and I fell for him about two years ago then he proposed to me in the chat room and when I said let's do a video chat on Facebook he viciously attacked me and said "I was never interested in you I love Emily instead I find you disgusting and I despise you". This actually happened two times and I blame myself for going through that a second time thinking that this time he would get courageous and put love over fear. But he said the same things and made it clear that it was just a prank. Then when I left the chat room for half a year and came back later he said that he could not eat anything after I told him that I was not going back into the chat room. But that too was just a prank. Maybe he is just sadistic. But this behavior could also be caused by extreme fear of me seeing how he looks like. My friend Paul said that the hater might be a criminal and hiding from law enforcement or could be in prison and doesn't want me to see that. I think that whatever he looks like or what his situation is he definitely does not want me to find out. This whole situation had caused me to overdose on a very strong plant which can cause cardiac arrest. After that I was for good finished with that person and I can finally identify him behind many of his accounts which I block but then he comes back with the same accounts I think he can also unblock his accounts from my channel. But I'm emotionally cured from that person at last. When a person is lonely as I am we tend to fall into emotional traps like those and worse. At least I have serious paranoia and don't trust people that easily that's why I ask for video chats on Facebook where everything is forever recorded and if necessary released to law enforcement when people go missing. Many haters will never show themselves and that's ok. It saves me from falling in love with a criminal. And even those whom I actually talk to in video chats I'm extremely careful about. For me to trust a man I have to talk every day or frequently to him in video chats about all kinds of things in life and I want to know how he lives and how he makes his money and how he views animals. I don't want a criminal or Mafia man. I don't want an animal abuser. We have to be extremely careful today more than Ever in history.
"John nearly died twice on the table"
one for Rachel, the other for Kevin
This comment is gold 😂😂😂
Lololol
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I actually fully expected rachel and kevin and janet to all be one person from the beginning, but I didn't know it was all john, that was such a good plot twist
Right me too. I was thinking it was some older dude grooming john and mark.
Crazy ass
Same here, holy crap.
This case is just WOW!
3 years ago when all these began getting very popular I would watch MrBallen when I was (I’m clean now 2 years don’t worry) dopesick off the pills I had started for my insane colon surgery. I had to wait a week to get a refill and I was absolutely miserable, couldn’t do anything but feed my pets and maybe get up to get water and use the bathroom. But these videos got me though the worst of it. I’ll always have a soft spot for these insane videos because of how much they took my mind off the pain. Thank you MrBallen!
The very definition of "Hey I'm writing a book but I don't know how to kill the main character. It's an autobiography"
omg jut him or her
Omg stfu 🤣🤣🤣🤣
That is so messed up, but hilarious.
Are you god or something
666 likes…fits on this channel. Spooky
This comment is way underrated. I’m laughing so hard at this. Omg.
I've listened to maybe over a hundred of stories in this channel, but this one is one of the most mind blowing. I never saw it coming, feels like a M. Night Shyamalan movie
Nah, It doesnt hold a candle to #talhotblond. That is the creepiest movie I've ever seen. Well documentary. Maybe cause it was the first of it's kinda, airing in 2009 or around there. But it's along the same lines as this story here. They even defined the infatuation because it was unlike any psychologists had seen before. Because of the internet. It escapes me atm, but if I remember it I'll edit this post. But if you haven't seen it already....I'd definitely go for it. You won't be disappointed.
It’s the ultimate catfish story
Insane AF
FR. This is the biggest plot twist I've seen in years.
Yeah this is a legit unexpected twist, but if this happened in a movie I'd think it was implausible haha
I love the description its funny 😂😂
Woah I wasn't expecting that
when you're too shy to tell a guy you love him and he's too stupid to know you're impersonating a spy.
When your smurf account plots to murder you.
Haha maybe Mark just wasn’t gay
@@Alienspecies635 Penetration by any means necessary.
Sounds like an anime plot
Right?? Who would believe all of this shit??? I’m amazed at how ppl can be so gullible. I’m so happy that I have trust issues.
Reminds me of the AOL chat rooms from 100 years ago 😬
One first comment, and two the chatrooms on DS are completely silent too-
I forgot what it was called and THEY ARE HELLA SILENT.
Use to love those chat rooms
Ha, AOL, haven't heard about that crappy service forever 🤣
@@roadsgt97 yeah,they were good for a laugh.
I'm rewatching this two years later and only just noticing the screenshots from Chatroom with Aaron Taylor-Johnson.
Wow! What a crazy story!
16 year olds: "Alright, I can drive! I'll be able to vote in two years!"
Also 16 year olds: "I had to kill my friend because a secret agent said his body was the key to an underwater safe..."
You actually can't drive at 16 in the UK (I know that's not really the point of your post!)
@@hannahp1195 No driving at 16, no guns, and the cops show up at your door for shitposting :(
There are idiotic 61 year-olds. An arbitary number doesn't make one wise.
@@damiendarko9411 you can have sex at 16 though.. so thats an upside. And not giving lunatics (like those in these posts) guns is definitely another upside.
@@freakydeaky1435 Not being able to defend yourself from lunatics because self defense is basically banned is a downside.
Imagine how fast John must have typed
Mark*
@@dankone3 Woosh
@@Fishii108 It was John. He had the 189 accounts and created the chat room. It's an older story, like early 2000s. I remember hearing that John was suicidal or telling the police that's why he did it. Really bizarre story and never actually released the names I don't think.
DUDE, microwaving a grape split in half is crazy af
@@ryanharris6788 yes it is.
I love this video we need more of these
Please do more of these solved mysteries they didn’t get as many episodes as they deserved
John would be a perfect dungeon master for DND.
Until he decided to kill the whole party off because he couldn't find a better out for them. lol!
@@lindablue7494 Just come to the table strapped.
Never played dnd I was always a call of duty guy
Yeah and he would play DnD with a group of friends - that are all played by himself.
@Ryker Jett Something tells me that you're 7 years old.
This might genuinely be the weirdest story I've ever heard. This doesn't sound just like a movie, it sounds like one of those dime-a-dozen, cheesy high school animes where you're constantly rolling your eyes at how implausible the whole plot is.
Yes. It definitely doesn't work for a movie. Nobody will believe that it's realistic. Makes me wonder how movies can actually be way more closer to real life than I think...
It’s not dimes a dozen at all. Quite the literal opposite in every possible conception point. Not sure if I’ve ever heard a story as nuts as this. From the standpoint this was all one person
@Kane Foxx yeah whole point of anime is its not supposed to be like real life. Thats what makes it enjoyable
Like the last 5 seasons of The Walking Dead?
@@itiswhatitis3198 haha. Very funny and possibly accurate. I say “possibly” because I stopped watching the season after Sasha killed herself. It was the protracted pathetic shootout. They forgot they weren’t supposed to have bullets. 😂😂
Let’s give mr ballen the big award for going to a random class room to tell us these story’s