Why did we copy German helmets?

[@mikescarborough9196]

In WWI it was considered “cowardly” not to stand up and run directly toward a belt fed machine gun when an officer blew his whistle.

[@mauriceosullivan6832]

Exactly mate,,lower classes ,,cannon fodder, nothing more.

[@sgtstedanko7186]

Like all wars, it's just about population reduction

[@gustavakerman2566]

*Death Korps of Krieg making happy gasmask noises in the background*

[@alrn1282]

Its like the meme of a british soldier during the musket era:
-why dont we shoot them back?
+its their turn, idiot.

[@Maddieisabaddie-et4py]

@@gustavakerman2566 “You mean we can finally go now?”😁-kriegsman probably

[@eaglestryker1338]

"Look at those helmet wearing cowards!"
"Yeah. But we should probably start wearing them"

[@VintageWarfare]

- A British officer at the Somme, probably

[@AimBitX]

Lol the ones who wear helmets are smart

[@Kurskans]

There's always a smart fella and a shrapnel Killa

[@dodz9959]

Western Hypocrisy on action🥴

[@notofficialpickles507]

@@dodz9959 why you taking it so serious

[@ChannelDeleted805]

“Haha, coward, you wear a hel-“
*shrapnel flys through head*

[@kirbyis4ever]

A sharp piece of metal cutting through your skull at high speed will change your outlook on helmets real quick... if it doesn't kill you first!

[@SonOfTheChinChin]

allies soldier: 💀

[@SlavicUnionGaming]

Dies and goes to hell

[@Sketch-Motion]

"HAHAHAHHA, COWARD!"
*BONK*

[@austinjrpeel5848]

Sorry little history class. WWII helmets were shrapnel proof😁😁

[@nikolegoshiwolffe5901]

“If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”

[@ptrisonic]

Actually they change the design of the then new American helmet after the invasion of Grenada because the President got a lot of flak (Ho) because they looked like Storm Troopers. The brim was modified.
Pete.

[@kjamison5951]

The Stahlhelm was so good a design, the Empire adopted it for Darth Vader.

[@CHMichael]

"Long time ago" - the Germans copied Vader

[@RC--lm8tj]

@@CHMichael as a matter of fact we know when star wars happens. In a legends story han stranded on earth, got killed by indigene people and his skull was found 150 years later by Indiana Jones, making the shape about 200 years old atm.

[@rabadonsdeathcap7418]

Nahh i think he mixed a shogun helmet and a stahlhelm and added a cool mask

[@RC--lm8tj]

@Spiced T i know, but Tell that to the writer.

[@RC--lm8tj]

@@rabadonsdeathcap7418 vaders helmet Was in fact inspired by samurai helmets, his original Design was even more menacing then what we actually got. Search up vader concept Art Ralph MCquarrie

[@Babjengi]

"It was viewed as cowardly to wear a helmet..."
Another example of why peer pressure is bad for your health

[@bigblockjalopy]

As if the Stahlhelm gave any protection. It is just psychological and therefore it might have been better to wear no Stahlhelm at all.

[@kuessebrama]

@@bigblockjalopy it gives protection. It can safe you from shrapnel and depris. Not from bullets but atleast you will not get killed from a medium size rock wich falls on your head.

[@FoxtrotFleet]

@@bigblockjalopy What the fuck are you on about? Deaths by falling debris from artillery bombardment literally went down after the adoption of helmets among armies of all nations in WW1, they objectively work. You can see the reports if you even bothered to find them rather than bemoan that they won't stop a direct rifle shot or whatever unrealistic expectation you have of them.

[@spiritmoon5998]

@@bigblockjalopy Maybe a bullet could go straight through a stahlhelm, but it did protect whoever was wearing it from shrapnel. Do you really think a country would supply its' military with non-functional helmets just for morale? Where'd you get that conclusion from?

[@bigblockjalopy]

@@spiritmoon5998 Where? I served and wore one of these. Shrapnels will go thru that thing like Butter. Theoretically there is a little bit protection but It is just thin sheet metal. Are you saying that everything of a military uniform is functional? Absurd

[@4450krank]

Its also worth pointing out that the little lip in the front directs water away from your line of sight, on less you tilt your head forward, this means you can aim your rifle without water dripping in front of your eyes:)

[@tonycrabtree3416]

And like a ball cap, helps shade overhead sun.

[@gregoryhagen8801]

Also keeps the rain from running down the back of your neck.

[@Angry-Lynx]

Fuckin what

[@bedipuss123]

Yo they really said “you’re a bitch if you wear a helmet in war” those generations before 😂

[@tk8668]

Reminds me of the covid mask debate *cough cough*

[@GamingKnight0820]

​@@tk8668 that's pretty different

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

@@tk8668 a helmet will actually protect you from something.

[@ToyotaTechnical]

@@tk8668 Covid can phase through the mask. Fragments can't filter through a steel helmet

[@thunderouspasta]

@@robertortiz-wilson1588 a good mask will also protect you from something, but here’s the key term GOOD, like a 3M surgical mask, not a shitty mask from the gas station around the corner

[@drron5608]

Narrator: why do these helmets look so similar?
Me: because the shape of our heads hasn't changed

[@obeydefi6312]

May have shrunk since then.. 🧠🤣

[@Thatonefuckinguy]

@@obeydefi6312 Honestly if you notice, the modern helmets are slightly smaller. LMFAO all that nuclear testing am I right?

[@obeydefi6312]

@@Thatonefuckinguy 😂🤣

[@Censor999]

USA copy and stole everything. Including the scientist from WW2😂

[@TheLakabanzaichrg]

@@Censor999 IfImitation is one of the best forms of flattery

[@DeltaDanner]

It’s interesting to see helmet designs of the First World War. It really does seem like, for Germany and Britain at least, they went back to their medieval roots. The Stahlhelm looks similar to a Sallet while the Brodie helmet takes notes from the Kettle helmet.

[@leonake4194]

I've read a bit about how the ww1 helmets came to be and yeah.. It was Pretty much putting medieval designs back into production, with many investigators going to museums to research the best designs

[@lordroswag4298]

Wow

[@mikeycraig8970]

That's not just it. They used armour too, sheets of iron plate about body sized. I've seen pictures of what looks like a walking tank. Then theres the trench raids which resorted to home made versions of weapons that wouldn't be out of place at Agincourt.

[@lucashurley7612]

MORDHAU MOMENT!

[@lucashurley7612]

@Darkfarfetch They follow the same principals. Apparently not that well because the new US standard helmet won’t even stop armor penetrating nine mill. That’s probably why they changed it so quickly.

[@doms.6701]

Imagine not wearing a helmet because it was cowardly 😂
Has the same energy as a tweet along the lines of "mf be 18 and still using an umbrella"

[@robertwildschwein7207]

Using umbrella because you are afraid of water 🤓
Using umbrella as a fashion accessory😀
Using umbrella as a self defense weapon 💪

[@chriscarrol9373]

Well they mess your hair. How could all the trans guys look good in the trenches?

[@robertwildschwein7207]

@@chriscarrol9373 I prefere not to die in one hit

[@armingleiner5292]

Umbrella is cowardly though cause the rain wont hurt you. Not wearing a helmet in war on the other hand...

[@fireboythestar3455]

​@@armingleiner5292 yeah its cowardly not to catch a cold

[@jammyydodgeruwu2083]

It actually wasn't seen as cowardly to use a helmet during ww1. The reason they weren't used during the opening years was due to the idea that they were a waste of time, they were heavy and didn't offer much protection due to poor steel. This idea was later blown out of the water once the reality of modern warfare set in.

[@ZombolicBand]

idk why anyone woud say what he said.. if they knew basic history.
But this is how fake facts can spread.
NO ww1 soldier would laugh at a helmet.. they saw too many leaking skulls to joke around about cowardice..

[@MisterJ.J.]

Also the German helmet was designed that way so you could lay on your stomach and look ahead without your helmet being pushed down over your eyes by the back of your neck.

[@nickirmen6671]

Huh, I have an M35 model I'll try that right now
Edit: Yes this works and I can see how it was unchanged for decades

[@romanquattrininunez9054]

Cool !!

[@anonymousstout4759]

I was wondering why the back not full to the neck, thanks now I know

[@Mod-eg1mc]

Like them or hate them Germany had some really amazing tech for back in the day when compared to everyone else.

[@dakkossman2063]

Germanic blood is no joke

[@curiousentertainment3008]

To keep my reply short the Germans had quite a few things similar to the allies and a lot of their wunderwaffe either appeared to late, was rushed, only had a few prototypes made, a combination of the first three, or never existed beyond blueprints. The Germans did design weapons and drew concepts that we still use in modern warfare. Most of their ideas were ahead of their time not a lot of their tech was.

[@NuttyCuts_]

Their helmet design was bloody good that’s why so many countries bought m35 stahlhems

[@NuttyCuts_]

@not a bunch of kids in a trench the tanks sucked? The tiger 1 was a beast man, and their planes were good. Their guns were all great apart from the kar98
Edit: I swear to god stop telling me how bad the tiger 1 was I got the fucking message the first time someone replied read all the other people replying to me saying the same shit as you first

[@Anzio_VR]

@not a bunch of kids in a trench hmm, I wonder why it took multiple global superpowers just to take it down

[@burnttoast26]

The Stahlhelm was also kind of an evolution of the German Sallet helm, a late medieval helm. They just got rid of the gorget, visor, and shortened the tail. And even then, we're bringing back visors and gorgets in the form of ballistic eye protection/NVGs and lower faceplates respectively.

[@derp3305]

*"GERMAN ENGINEERING IN DA HAUS JAAAAA"* ✌

[@stellviahohenheim]

The real nazis was the American military all along

[@GrimReaper-lo1ut]

V dub in da haus jaaaa ✌️

[@slyze6933]

*breaks down miles away from the front

[@travismayes4547]

Germans invents, U.S. improves it for mass production.

[@greysonholtzclaw5276]

A common misconception but the pickelhaube was primarily made of boiled leather (the exception being the cuirassier's or heavy calvary version, which was made entirely out of metal, and was often used in portraits of high-ranking leaders.) making it practically useless in the trenches, other than getting you shot.
In 1916 the pickelhaube was discontinued in favor of the all metal Stahlhelm, which would be cut down and simplified until you would get the WW2 version. In effect, the WW2 Stahlhelm is the same helmet used in WW1, just simplified, just like the Kar98k came from the Gewehr 98, Kar being a shortened version of karabiner or carbine, and k being Kurz or short.

[@davidoo_21]

🤓 🤓

[@greysonholtzclaw5276]

@@davidoo_21 Lol

[@davidoo_21]

@@greysonholtzclaw5276 glad you didn't take it personally, we need more people like you in the comments section

[@greysonholtzclaw5276]

@@davidoo_21 Yeah I figured you were just messing around, and to be fair, I did get a small laugh out of it, it was pretty nerdy.

[@IndianaJonesTDH]

In addition the other variet of picklehauble is with the top for people who work with artillery or cannons is round

[@eneastavora1943]

Dart Vader knew this…

[@asiangaming8409]

Darth Vader was based of samurai armor

[@christianjudeberbano3134]

His armor is based off of "one-eyed dragon" masamune's armor

[@theinquisitor7191]

Hel ye.

[@BlockOrDeleteMeansIOwnYou]

not to be confused with poker vader

[@randomfactsthatdontmatter3466]

@@asiangaming8409 pretty sure it was a mix of samurai and ww2 gas masks

[@Hamanyoo]

Nice of you to keep your grandpa’s helmet 👨🏻‍🦳

[@hamburglar710]

"Dammmmmnnnnn!!!!" 🤣

[@willroth7521]

Lmao 💀💀

[@Duckwithblueandredhat]

I wish my grandpa was a nazi

[@bkind1622]

It’s a reproduction replica helmet it’s not a original WW2 German helmet! 🙄

[@LolelUwU]

@@bkind1622 WW1*

[@mrclean29]

It wasn’t viewed “cowardly”. They started wearing helmets shortly after the start of ww1 because it became necessary. In earlier wars it simply wasn’t necessary, it has NOTHING to do with cowardness.

[@TheCompleteMental]

People have known this is a great design for thousands of years. Look at a bascinet or sallet

[@CountingStars333]

Thousands are ya sure.

[@NuttyCuts_]

@@CountingStars333 yes.

[@xenoplayspl6239]

@@CountingStars333 the Ronam helmet is one example

[@jamesgoldring1052]

@@xenoplayspl6239 yeah the roman helmet might be even better regarding the few examples we have
Apperances might matter more thou, the m1 American helmets look like giant olives

[@GAMER123GAMING]

@@jamesgoldring1052 The Roman helmet was also similar to designs from the gauls.
Its a basic helmet design that any normal functioning human being would be able to figure out why its the best

[@thisbrokemf6333]

Say what ever you want on me but in my opinion the german military uniform in ww1 and ww2 is stylish and i really liked it.

[@Bizmarckus]

Agreed

[@treibhuhn3342]

the modern ones too

[@DangerIncFilms]

They were functional and they looked great.

[@_bellona_792]

The flat grey color blends into almost any scenario

[@beyondbackwater4933]

The SS camo patterns were amazing and some patterns today are based off them.

[@Overxpossed]

Exactly; and they look very similar to the helmets Samurais used to wear. Great info!

[@havtor007]

No it is a copy of a european helmet from the middleages called a Sallet.

[@Overxpossed]

@@havtor007 So? It keeps looking similar to Samurais helmets.

[@havtor007]

@@Overxpossed then any helmet looks similar to those for you right?
Because they are very different from a samurai helmet.
It is a direct development of the medieval Sallet even using the same suspention on the inside.
The samurai helmet has side cheek pieces and a mask (mask can be used or removed)
The shape of the bulk part of the helmet is different the shape at the back of the head is different.
But hey sure samurai helmet looks similar it is a helmet afterall

[@Overxpossed]

@@havtor007 Any helmet that looks like the samurai ones, sure. Not all helmets looks like the samurai ones.

[@WaukWarrior360]

​@@havtor007That's the same logic you're using for saying the PASGT and ACH helmets look like the German helmets

[@usafyuros6126]

Imagine getting possessed by the actual bearer of the helmet

[@chadpendt2863]

Hugo boss made some fucking FIRE uniform designs. And I'm tired of pretending they're not.

[@Oaksley]

yes he *made* but didn't design them. it was some ss guy that designed them. hugo boss just produced them

[@demonetizedhistory5806]

Hugo boss didn't design the uniforms, they just produced them for the Germans.

[@anglishbookcraft1516]

Moreover the German style was Prussian and came from hundreds of years of tradition.
Meaning the overall look was the same as WW1 and before. Hugo only made the uniforms, what’s more, they were only SS uniforms, which where the black and or white uniforms which were the only kind of new widespread element in German military design.

[@dakkossman2063]

Moreover, hugo boss was a tiny company and wasn't even close to being a big producer of the german ww2 uniforms

[@mickwarnie8707]

@@anglishbookcraft1516 The ss never had white uniforms

[@camerannicephore5262]

Reminds me of the story about when helmets were first deployed to the front lines, and head injury sky rocketed. At first they thought the helmets were causing it. Then they realized. That those injury would have been deaths if not for the helmets

[@TheIvercon]

Yep. Its a term called "survivor bias".

[@nilsteegen33]

@@TheIvercon yes everyone knows that

[@TheIvercon]

@@nilsteegen33 🤓

[@nilsteegen33]

@@TheIvercon projection won't help you

[@TheIvercon]

@@nilsteegen33 😴

[@Kniddels]

Fun fact:
Some "older" german fire fighter helmets, that are still used in many regions,
are also looking like the german ww 1 & 2 steel helmets.
But they are made out of a hard plastic like material and they have a bright neon-yellow colour, so that they can beseen even in bad light conditions.

[@Aorelion]

Funfact. The Germans invented this great design. After ww2 they were not allowed to wear it and got forced by the US to buy the worse US helmet, while the Americans copyed the german helmet design in Kevlar. Now the german kevlar helmet copys the US helmet. -isn´t that ironic?

[@pandamilkshake]

"You're wearing a *helmet* ? You coward! Hahahahahaga...ahah...ah...um...you got any more laying around?"

[@IndianaJonesTDH]

I never heard of that before. Germanic military did have there own helmets. Prussia had the iconic picklehauble at that time each German state had there own unique uniform and helmet even after German unification till 1910

[@IndianaJonesTDH]

Probably something made up or a joke or for a Pacific part of Germany

[@lukesball1]

I can't find anything on google supporting this fact either (that helmet wearing was considered cowardly). Would be interested if anyone does and can let me know where he gets this from.

[@donarthiazi2443]

@@IndianaJonesTDH
Häh... bist Du verrückt? Das ist _"pickelhaube"_ und _"their"._ 🤣😂

[@kirbyis4ever]

Seeing people get killed by head wounds will really change your outlook. "Maybe construction workers are on to something..."

[@betafishjeremy7454]

Then you had the German Helmet that had the two lugs on the front to hold a massive armor plate meant for heavy gunners. They also wore that almost medieval armor that only covered the front. I'm pretty sure that was WW1 but I could be mistaken. Gun Jesus made a great video on it.

[@VintageWarfare]

Lobster armor and yes it was WW1. I’ll have to look for that vid

[@betafishjeremy7454]

@@VintageWarfare I got you covered bro
ruclips.net/video/kNVfe5Et9-I/видео.html

[@VintageWarfare]

Thanks dude

[@maximilienrobespierre7927]

Yep, those lugs were on the original 1916 model Stahlhelm.

[@mandalortemaan7510]

The lugs were meant for air circulating and were filled in the cold. Sharpshooters wore the forehead plate and got their own helmet later. I have never seen a "heavy gunner" with a plate when it was first introduced. The plates were meant to stop bullets to a much less lethal level while the Lobster armor was purely for shrapnel

[@jabbathehutt489]

It was never viewed as cowardly to wear helmets. Offensive technology had evolved faster than defensive and protective technology. Also helmets didn't provide much protection when soldiers were lining up and shooting at each other in the early stages of the war. When soliders dug into the ground, the shooting became minimal and artillery became the primary killer. And as you point out, shrapnel deaths were high and steel helmets became a thing.

[@johnedlin7]

Yeah the Germans knew what they were doing with combat tools. The bolt in the k98 has been revolutionary as well. Nearly all modern bolt actions carry the same bolt. Mg42 was damn impressive too with its high rate of fire and quick barrel changes

[@adolfolerito6744]

The other peculiarity of the stahlhelm is that it was designed in such a way that it could be manufactured from a single sheet of steel, by passing through a single industrial press. That made production extremely fast and cheap, as a single factory line could be used to transform pieces of steel into helmets.

[@alexander349]

"Pfft, you're wearing a helmet? What a coward." "You're not?" *BONK*
"New plan, Hans. Helmets, helmets all around."

[@Fischbroetchen2k]

This is pretty much my dad for all my life: "You see how the Americans copied our helmet!? They act all super brain and all they do is copy" *mild rage*

[@WaukWarrior360]

That's before you find out that America had more advanced technology than Germany in WW2 and your dad is a nazi retard

[@jason113388]

An actual informative short, nice

[@larsrons7937]

Fun fact: (or myth?) In WWI, soon after the British started issuing helmets to the frontline troops they stopped and banned them, as the saw the number of registered headwounds skyrocket. Eventually they realised that the wounds were registered as headwounds because the soldiers actually survived, whereas those dead from shrapnel hit to the head were merely registered as "dead" without recording the cause of death. With this knowledge they started using helmets again. It's so nice with a 'bright' staff at HQ, especially for those fortunate enough to get hit in the head after having been issued tge protective helmet.

[@509Gman]

You see this erroneous data interpretation with peoples attitudes toward seat belt use too.

[@FishbedMyBeloved]

This also happened with planes. The USAAF would armor the parts of combat aircraft that usually came back damaged, and leave the parts that came back intact. This did not work.
Eventually someone recognized the issue and the USAAF began placing armor on the least hit parts of their planes. This increased survival rates.
This phenomenon is called survivorship bias.

[@jadsmvs8651]

Short answer: They work, that's why.
Modern fire helmets, more so in Europe are pretty much all built like this too.

[@simoncarrier9910]

That German helmet is the coolest thing ever.

[@alvarocorral1576]

The Germans copied Darth Vader because Darth Vader existed in some galaxy a long, long, time ago..

[@connormclernon26]

TLDW: The Stahlhelm is roughly the ideal helmet shape

[@lmaolmoo4147]

The design was also based off of a popular German helm from the 15th century called the Sallet.

[@WaukWarrior360]

And the sallet was based off of Roman and Gaulish helmets

[@Jgasporrap]

Yep

[@trasonrobards4823]

A lot of Austrian and German soldiers also adopted wearing the helmet backwards as a way to combat glint and sun flares when they were in combat. Can’t be partially blinded for a second when every second counts, yknow. Pretty cool uncommon fact I think

[@haveagreatday6952]

“Ever wonder how the blahblahblah looks like the standard combat helmet?”
No, not even a little bit. But sure, I’ll watch this video!

[@TinyPitCrew]

Exactly my thoughts 😂

[@MTGPringles]

I love that one commercial with the Vikings and the dude insists he doesn't need a helmet but then his wife yells at him to wear it anyways

[@muhworld2227]

What brand was the commercial for?

[@c.s.4273]

Link?

[@tobiask2524]

@@c.s.4273 ruclips.net/video/pD-f45TbvEw/видео.html

[@Bruce438]

Love the Danish bicycle psa

[@EnjoyCocaColaLight]

@@muhworld2227 It's a Danish skit trying to make people stop biking without helmets.

[@averagejoe8358]

Another note, for the First World War the British Brodie was very effective. The helmet provided the wearer with extra protection from shrapnel, ESPECIALLY when most deaths in WWI was caused by artillery

[@isbee56]

Yes, in a trench the main threat is from above so a flat wide helmet makes sense, also brodies were far easier to produce.

[@panachevitz]

Lindy Beige did a video about this many moons ago.

[@wanderschlosser1857]

@@isbee56 Yeah, Brodies were a great design, that's why all modern helmets look alike! Wait!
But some say Brodies were the inspiration for successful modern soup plate designs.

[@isbee56]

@@wanderschlosser1857 omg its almost as if modern armies aren't fighting trench warfare in the early 20th century so they need to and can produce more complex shapes that the British couldn't at that time.

[@wanderschlosser1857]

@@isbee56 The shape of the German helmet was designed in the same time when fighting under the same conditions. And I assume, available technology for producing them was also pretty much the same in Britain and Germany. Still the basic design of the German helmet proved beimg better even though not perfect either.

[@yowtfputthemaskbackon9202]

in short, it is the most effective shape in covering your head while also not affecting your vision, breathing, hearing and other neccesary functions too much. most other helmet designs at the time often had to make a few sacrifices either way, by either providing less protection, a larger target, or worse field of view, however it also should be mentioned that most nations did experiment with the schwerd pattern of helmets in the interwar years, however usually deciding against it, often for reasons as simple as friend foe recognition, and also the cost of creating these sort of helmets, with many local designs simply beeing cheaper to make. it also should be noted that both the SSH 40 and M1 provided marginally better bullet protection, however in case of the test done on the SSH 40 compared to the Stahlhelm35 (M40), there are arguments to be had of definite bias in favor of the SSH 40 and even then only providing slightly better protection at unreasonable ranges against russian made firearms. in case of the M1, again, its protection against handgun rounds did stand out at the time, however it did make sacrifices in the larger target it creates and the reduced protection against falling debris and overall slightly worse profile.

[@rylee1991]

the idea that wearing a helmet was considered cowardly is completely false, it was considered antiquated and mostly ceremonial.
it followed the same trend as the rest of personal armour since the introduction of firearms, as armour became less and less effective people wore less and less.
at the time of WW1 the germans had been using the Pickelhaube for 70 years and the English had the pith helmet, both of which had all the features of a helmet but were very lightweight when compared to the helmets worn centuries before.
people just didn't think helmets really worked, they were heavy and couldn't stop a bullet but even if they could the enemy was trained to shoot centre mass anyway but as trench warfare kicked off people were exposing less of their body to enemy fire and people started getting hit in the head more often and a lot more people were getting hit by shrapnel and debris from all the artillery (up to 60% of casualties were caused by artillery).
which was the type of thing a helmet could protect you from, at least some of the time, so they redesigned their helmets although both sides would continue to wear cloth hats alongside these helmets throughout the war.
as a matter of fact, armies all over the world do so up to today, nothing has changed.
TL;DR every army had helmets at the start of WW1 they just didn't wear them all the time, as the war went on they got better helmets and wore them more often, they were heavier and less comfortable than cloth hats it had nothing to do with being a coward.

[@TheLastArbiter]

I believe there was controversy over that during the Grenada conflict when people became more aware of the helmet. In response, many wore a lot of netting to disguise the shape of the helmet.

[@VintageWarfare]

This is why we have to wear helmet covers. Another fact I would have added, but to short of a video.

[@cctproductions6976]

I don't see how that is a big deal?

[@TheLastArbiter]

@@cctproductions6976 People only associated that shape with Germany then and were having a bad reaction to seeing Americans wearing a “nazi helmet.” Especially troublesome for soldiers first receiving the helmet who were stationed in Germany. Some interesting stories online.

[@mathy4605]

@@TheLastArbiter Yet the most widely available military handgun cartridge is a German one... This is just selective prejudice, sadly. Maybe we should just pick the best ideas from each country and leave out the bad ones.

[@Bizmarckus]

@@TheLastArbiter God people are so gullible and ignorant

[@Joseph-mw2rl]

Good designs are timeless, ask John Moses Browning

[@mariannwatt2678]

Looking at a 50 cal round right now JB lives cheers

[@PreparedOverlander]

That design also allows for the use of communications devices without taking off the helmet. The new Bose headsets for vehicles work great with this helmet.

[@matthewtylergee]

They actually had several iterations of the picklehelm throughout the war. First it was the beautiful gold one's for officers but that made them targets for snipers so they made officers more indistinguishable from enlisted. They then had what was basically the stalhelm with a spike then by 1916 they got rid of the spike all together because the spike still gave a target and it would get snagged.

[@tactknightgaming2066]

"German engineering is the greatest in the world!"

[@rafa_saugi]

stroheim?

[@jus7040]

@@rafa_saugi strohhalm?

[@rafa_saugi]

Sekaichii!

[@WaukWarrior360]

It's funny because it's not.
If the paperclip had been invented in Germany it would have 11 different moving parts... and none of them would work properly

[@headhunter1945]

@@WaukWarrior360 You're funny because you're wrong.

[@lordlucius1341]

“Look at them wearing helmets, COWARDS!”
“Shouldn’t we be wearing helmets?”
“What are you? A coward?!”
“Just a guy who doesn’t want shrapnel eye.”

[@BaronVonYolo]

All these men without helmets died in the field while a lot of those with helmets survived. Today every soldier wears a helmet. Evolution baby!

[@jonathanhansen3709]

A close friend of mine, Arthur Pursell (1890-1985), who was veteran of WW1, told me the greatest danger during the war, was not hearing incoming shells. He said the British designed Brodie helmet, used by American troops, allowed you to hear that distinctive whistle in time to jump to cover, and pull it over your face. He tried on several captured, German helmets, and stated, he didn’t know how they heard incoming shells, with that helmet. Yes, it covers more of your head, but it also covered your ears enough to attenuate the more important sound of incoming shells.

[@davidhitchFPV]

I remember when the Kevlar helmets first arrived (mid 80’s) some guys were mispronounced it as “cavalier “ helmet!

[@florianvalentin8604]

You pronounced „Stahlhelm“ and „Pickelhelm“ very good 😊

[@inconspicuoussalad7730]

Pickelhaube

[@vampi-chan3793]

@Yuri DeKhed yes he does, just after when he was talking about the corcern of shrapnel casualties. He wrote it wrong though, it's not ''Pickelhelm'' it's ''Pickelhaube'' and that is the german helmet with a spike on top of it.

[@vampi-chan3793]

@Yuri DeKhed I meant the guy who wrote the comment that you first responded to, he wrote ''Pickelhelm'' and it's ''Pickelhaube''. How about you use your common sense?
Maybe go get your head checked.

[@hashbrownz1999]

Common misconception: Helmets are intended to provide protection from FALLING shrapnel (think of the huge amount of dirt flung upwards by an artillery shell) not to protect from DIRECT shrapnel (the metal casing flying straight towards you)

[@DarkMatterBacon0]

Also they got they right ratio of ear coverage. hearing on the battlefield makes a huge difference

[@Carcroven]

Also one thing you failed to mention with the German stahlhelm is that it channels the sound waves from the direction you’re looking into your ears better so you can hear everything better coming from the direction that you’re looking.

[@andrewjacks2716]

That's neat! I didn't know that.

[@984GR]

What is the source for that?

[@johndaarteest]

@@984GR it's wherever the sound is coming from.

[@lasmirandadennsiewillja1048]

@@johndaarteest nice one

[@Carcroven]

@@984GR the source is historical documents I’ve read, and mostly from my personal experiences wearing one being a German WWII reenactor.

[@hanzchii9245]

When germans made military helmets Soo good that the design is still alive in the recent years

[@M-Rayan]

106 years

[@hanzchii9245]

@@M-Rayan more than century yet the concept of design still remains with more modification and improvements

[@isbee56]

When medieval blacksmiths of the HRE made a helmet shape soo good that the design was copied by the German army in WW1.

[@hanzchii9245]

@@isbee56 when our ancestors putting anything to protect the head is so iconic that the later generations copied them

[@isbee56]

@@hanzchii9245 prehistoric fish when they swam behind a rock to stop being eaten by something was so iconic that people are still putting things between themselves and things that can hurt them.

[@chasecrosby5000]

You know when I was swiping I was expecting some weird 3 am stuff. But this was actually nice and informative so thank you

[@rachelcarre9468]

In WWI the British analyzed wound statistics and found that very few wounded had head injuries therefore the conclusion could have been that steel helmets were not necessary. After their introduction, it was seen that the number of head injuries actually increased simply because without the steel helmet, casualties died instantly or very quickly. The Western Front Association channel have an excellent video on this.

[@bowieknife71]

"every girl's crazy 'bout a sharp dressed man..." that's what it's all about 😎🤝🏻😎

[@WaukWarrior360]

If you actually look at the common German Uniforms they look rt4rded.

[@bowieknife71]

@@WaukWarrior360 indeed. Uniforms are retarded as well as the people who wear them. Nowadays it's not so funny at all, most of them retards are in the government.

[@np-bl7qc]

@@WaukWarrior360 nah bro Germans were fly.

[@WaukWarrior360]

@@np-bl7qc Nah bro, pretty overrated

[@BTClips522]

@@WaukWarrior360 entitled to your own opinion even if it's wrong

[@browherearemysocks99]

This reminds me of the whole stg44 being the inspiration for the ak-47 debate.

[@G31M1]

Well yeah it's the first actual assault rifle but people always think that the AK-47 was, simply because it's more spread and more popular

[@thelichking9123]

Well actually the fyodorov avtomat can be seen as the first assault rifle, but because of its use as a machine gun in the Russian army and because it's was only built in low numbers

[@EHilgy17]

There was an interesting experiment recently testing head and neck damage from all the major helmet designs. Interestingly for direct overhead blasts the French Adrian helmet did even better than the modern helmet. But obviously niche situation, but always good to see these things for future tweaks to designs.

[@burburkang]

They eventually removed the front visor because soldiers lying in prone often struggled with the helmet obscuring their field of view as the vest pushed the helmet forward over their eyes.
German soldiers also struggled with this and so often wore their helmets backwards.

[@loewenstark2969]

,,Schtolhewlm"

[@Joseph.M.]

Ive met Panamanians who have better German pronunciation, literally lol

[@AKSnowbat907]

That first German helm also look like a fireman helm and a hard hat inspiration.

[@julessaviour5931]

Damn good point. You should make a youtube short comparing them

[@simonm1447]

German fire fighters helmets still have this shape, with an additional leather neck protection. They are made of aluminium or plastic.

[@mattschm5486]

Helmets have always been a compromise between protection and practical usability. Hearing, Field of view and also breathing ( with the historical helmets providing face protection)

[@nmelkhunter1]

My dad was involved in the tropical phase testing in Panama of the “Fritz” helmet. Believe it or not, one of the biggest complaints about the “Fritz” was you couldn’t cook in it since it is made out of Kevlar! Thank goodness for MRE’s! I think…

[@lotharlee1221]

German helmets are the most reasonable and scientific helmet in the world to protect the head 👍🏽

[@1st_SGT_Bussey]

The stahlhelm is actually designed off of the sallet just as the brodie is designed based off the kettle helmet they were both based on designs that already worked the French Adrian helmet however is a very Victorian looking design but is more relatable to the brodie in function and the m1 steel pot helm seems to be a totally modern design

[@WaukWarrior360]

The seller is actually designed based on ancient Roman and Gaulish helmets

[@donaldboomer6313]

Many medieval German helmets designed to protect the head and shoulders provided inspiration in WW1 design.

[@G1NZOU]

Same with the Jerry Can, German design was really good and now most militaries use it to this day.

[@Reenacting-New]

Fun fact about the German helmet. That helmet was based off German mid evil helmet.

[@julesbenedictcatalan4904]

medieval helmet*

[@gustavabensberg4260]

Mid evil? Why not start evil?

[@gambigambigambi]

MOFO SAID MID EVIL 💀

[@WaukWarrior360]

Fun fact, the "German Medieval helmet" is based off of Roman and Gaulish helmets

[@deathtrooper7760]

@@WaukWarrior360 no the Salett or Schaller is not based on a roman or gaul helmet it's from the first half of the 15th century and is based/ took some idea on the kettle helmet and the bacinet.

[@TheDisappointedKenobi]

The helmet with the spike on top is called The "Pickle Haube" then in august 1915 The "M1916 stalhelm" was made but did not see combat on the battlefiled intel 1916 but was simplifed, And the Stalhelm was invented in 1916 but in 1917 it was simplifed and tirnt into the "M1917 stalhelm"

[@christsoug8533]

*Pickelhaube is the correct German spelling

[@_bellona_792]

Is it just me that prefers the first world war's stalhelm to the second's?

[@KiiXii]

Hmmm, it’s almost like helmets are good for protection depending on its shape…..

[@Lord_Baphomet_]

Those holes in the Stahlhelm were there so you could attach extra armor to the helmet… however some soldiers would turn the armor upside down and use it as a face mask.

[@twentysecondcenturywoman]

I’m sorry, but German military attire from WWII are work of arts. Bro, even their belt buckles were guns. So that if they were held hostage and told to take off their uniforms, they had 3 triggers on the side of their belt buckle that would shoot small bullets. It’s insane.

[@terruskaa]

Thats just not true

[@lukylunacek7444]

They had that, but it was used just by spies....and even among spies it was incredibly rare....

[@TOXIC-jq3ry]

"maximum protection for your neck."
fully exposed neck: Am I a joke to you?

[@-theislander-5888]

please learn to listen. fragmentation protection from ABOVE is very clearly stated in the video.

[@burburkang]

The PASGT helmet was nicknamed the “Fritz” helmet due to its similarity to the German helmet.

[@JohnBell-Hood]

Steel helmets were never seen as cowardly in ww1, they just weren't used as armies wanted to maintain formal wear. Eventually, the amount of casualties forced them to change that.

[@alvinmarcus5780]

I knew this but wanted to see what this gentleman would say. 👍🙂

[@moxx_deez_nuts]

I mean hey some places in germany still use the stalhelm but they have it painted bright yellow

[@erikengheim1106]

The Stahhelm was actually quite technologically difficult to make. At the time other countries didn't manage to make a helmet with that thick metal in that shape. The British made the saucer like helmets because that was easier to shape with the technology that existed then.
But the time WW2 came, they could actually make better helmets but the Stahlhelm had become so iconic in Germany that they kept it kind of for imagery purposes.

[@roguefountain1819]

It's probably because the human head is pretty much all the same shape and the little flair helps keep water from directly falling on you. You know simplicity is the best.

[@m4rionettealastor702]

TL:DR the German helmets covered ALL of the important bits of a human's head

[@perfectstranger1152]

According to Dave Mustaine: "The spoils of war are yours to keep."

[@nickirmen6671]

Nice story tell it to reader's digest!

[@forloop7713]

They kept the scientists too

[@scythelord]

@@forloop7713 Everyone did.

[@TheWolvesCurse]

@@nickirmen6671 some day you too will know my pain, and smile it's black-tooth grin.

[@TheWolvesCurse]

you know your worth when your enemies praise your architecture of agression.

[@johnleonard9102]

German engineers are brilliant. America pulled a Rome by copying German helmets, assault rifles, and even jet engines.

[@paulsnell534]

Seeing the US soldiers in the Gulf War with these "German" styled helmets used to upset my Grandfather. Who fought against the Germans in WW2. But also, me wearing Combat (cargo) trousers also upset him and they was another German invention too from WW2 apparently.

[@dylanb3431]

It was never considered cowardice to wear a helmet. Steel helmets were invented and issued during wwi to protect the head from shrapnel. Soldiers didn't wear then before that point because they didn't exist yet

[@VintageWarfare]

It was considered cowardly in the beginning of WW1 when they were introduced. That is a fact.

[@scheewheed8285]

@@VintageWarfare you got any source? Id love to read more about it

[@tiagomonteiro130]

@@VintageWarfare The Stahlhelm was made in 1916 it did not exist before the war that's why they didn't have any in the begining

[@fatalinsomn1a182]

It looks cool. That's the main reason. It's a good design too.

[@fundermentalist9473]

Got to be the best helmet design ever and looks the business too 👌

[@manleeman5212]

Fun fact i learned in college, the German helmet was actually known to be better than any allied helmet. They had developed a process to stamp steel into that deep bowl shape that the other sides couldnt replicate at the same thickness/strength which is why all their helmets were like saucers comparatively. A much more shallow "bowl" if you will.

[@kaitheguy3572]

“Cowardly to wear a helmet”
We weren’t so smart back then we’re we?

[@gustavabensberg4260]

You were never smart

[@509Gman]

Pre WWI,machine guns were considered unsportsmanlike by many officers, esp horse cavalry. OK to use on “primitives”, but not for gentlemanly combat.

[@marshalllpgraney920]

@@509Gman l

[@_arthur_360]

I think the pickelhaube was not a helmet, but more of a hat. It was made out of leather.

[@Salem-TC]

The whole world just about wears what Germans wore over 100 years ago, protects the ears & back of the neck...

[@robert48719]

They eventually stole the idea from the people they used to fight