Moog Subharmonicon Reviewed and Explained

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  • Опубликовано: 2 июл 2024
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    The Subharmonicon is a lovely, interesting and different synth from Moog. Only around 100 were hand soldered and built at Moogfest's 2018 Engineering Workshop, and there's no information currently about whether it will be released commercially.
    Even though availability is scarce, I decided to put together a review of this instrument, because the way it works is such a breath of fresh air when it comes to sound generation and sequencing. Also, one would hope that Moog will eventually mass produce the Subharmonicon, as they did for most, but not all past Engineer Workshop projects, like the DFAM and Werkstatt.
    This review includes an interview with Steve Dunnington from Moog, who led the Subharmonicon project. Steve talks about the vintage synthesizers (Trautonium and Rhythmicon) and composition theory (Schillinger system) that inspired this synth.
    So what makes the Subharmonicon special? Two main things. First, it has six (!) oscillators. These are sawtooth oscillators, a tribute to the original Trautonium. There are two main oscillators and each has two sawtooth sub oscillators, which can follow its main frequency at subharmonic intervals - divisions of anywhere between 1 and 15.
    The second thing that makes it special is its sequencers. Each of the two oscillator groups has a sequencer dedicated to it. Initially, it may seem these sequencers are limited because they only have 4 steps each. However, the Subharmonicon sequencers aren't designed to just be played in a regular step-by-step fashion. Rather, their cadence is powered by up to 4 tempo sub-dividers, also based on the principle of subharmonics. This rhythmic core produces sequences far longer than 4 steps, repeating and skipping notes in very interesting and surprising ways. Each of the two sequencers can be configured to control either the pitch of its main VCO (and sub oscillators) or just modulate the subharmonic divisions - thus generating different chords on a per step basis.
    In addition to new elements above the Subharmonicon contains controls we're used to seeing in Mother-32 and DFAM: a resonant low pass filter, AD envelopes for the VCA and filter, and a 32-jack patch bay with access to many of the internal controls.
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Комментарии • 356

  • @loopop
    @loopop  4 года назад +20

    Well! Two years later Moog released a mass-production version of this! Check out my review here: ruclips.net/video/ns0Zu5HjShY/видео.html

    • @JohnBack
      @JohnBack 3 года назад

      Thank you .. I was trying to see the Quantizer :)

    • @sonicsamurai9671
      @sonicsamurai9671 2 года назад

      what version is this then? is it a pre-prod / demo model? you can see it has a similar layout to the the dfam but they've obviously changed that now.

    • @SpaceFaceFPV
      @SpaceFaceFPV 2 года назад

      Are there any differences you noticed from your work with the prototype?
      I LOVE your content, it's so thorough and easy to understand because you explain so clearly :)

    • @loopop
      @loopop  2 года назад

      @@SpaceFaceFPV Thanks! There are quite a few differences... too many to list, there's really no need to get the workshop version for reasons other than nostalgia...

  • @nitevisionimages
    @nitevisionimages 6 лет назад +2

    This is one of the best reviews of any product ever! Such a great job :)

  • @jupitermarx
    @jupitermarx 6 лет назад +6

    Steve is my new mentor! I had a blast at the workshop and built mine!!

  • @nicholasdaniel6005
    @nicholasdaniel6005 6 лет назад +4

    Hey, thanks for this overview! Really appreciate getting to see the nuts & bolts of what this thing is about/how it works. This is some wacky awesome weirdness from Moog and I LOVE it.

  • @setphaser
    @setphaser 6 лет назад +4

    gorgeous! both the instrument and your clear and beautiful explanations

  • @SynthesizerPlanet
    @SynthesizerPlanet 6 лет назад

    Excellent overview! Can’t wait to see how this will be used in compositions!

  • @achromatic1386
    @achromatic1386 6 лет назад +1

    Thank you so much for your description of this amazing instrument!

  • @shibbidydoowop
    @shibbidydoowop 6 лет назад

    Wow, this thing really steps in a different direction from the gear I've browsed lately. Great video man, addresses the curiosity I've had about this thing very informatively 🙂

  • @aeropilot4419
    @aeropilot4419 6 лет назад +3

    Fantastic overview, thank you for the detailed tour of the Subharmonicon ... I will let Moog know we need it in production ... still not sold on the DFAM, but I love this. Cheers 🙂✨

  • @187onasimp
    @187onasimp 6 лет назад +131

    New at NAMM 2019 the "Behringer Subharmonicon".

    • @wombra8314
      @wombra8314 4 года назад +1

      anthony patterson 🧂🧂🤦🏻‍♀️

    • @IgnisCygnus147
      @IgnisCygnus147 4 года назад +1

      anthony patterson they are now

    • @zootheory9647
      @zootheory9647 4 года назад

      No, it would be the Behringer "Super" Subharnomicon- lol

    • @mikeexits
      @mikeexits 4 года назад

      @anthony patterson Neutron, Deepmind, new eurorack case that destroys all others in terms of size to price ratio. They're pretty good I think.

    • @Tazmanian_Ninja
      @Tazmanian_Ninja 4 года назад +1

      Fuck Behringer. Unoriginal, shameless copycats. Led by Uli the megalomaniac machiavellian, executed by his Chinese minions, doing what they've always done best: copy the intellectual properties of innovative minds.

  • @SpaceFaceFPV
    @SpaceFaceFPV 2 года назад +2

    It looked so different before! I love my subharmonicon like no other, it's really opened up so many doors for me in understanding music theory in a different way, both rhythmic content and harmonics/subharmonics, as well as micro tunings.
    Also as someone new to modular and "true" analog synthesis, (always used analog modelling or digital for the last 18 years) it's been such a good learning tool for how to work with CV/gates/triggers and so on.
    This is a great video 👍

  • @GuitarManiac1975
    @GuitarManiac1975 6 лет назад +1

    Once again a fantastic video! And this machine sounds really wonderful!

  • @fosferus
    @fosferus 6 лет назад

    first moog product i've ever been interested in purchasing. this is incredible! exploring harmonics and rhythms? drool.

  • @Sven.Bornemark
    @Sven.Bornemark 5 лет назад

    This is one of the best videos I've ever seen, all categories! Very educational! Thank you! :-)

  • @2.7petabytes
    @2.7petabytes 5 лет назад

    You always do such in depth videos! Thank you!

  • @ben-rosfeld
    @ben-rosfeld 4 года назад +7

    The demo at the beginning is reaaaalllly nice

  • @cherylchrisman5305
    @cherylchrisman5305 2 года назад

    Mind blown. You are amazingly talented!

  • @vinylwrap5571
    @vinylwrap5571 6 лет назад +1

    I hope they commercially release this. I fell in love with moog while tuning 2 different oscillators and hearing the harmonics. This synth is a dream come true!

  • @brianobush
    @brianobush 6 лет назад

    Yet another gem (both video and synth), thanks for the overview!

  • @kirabarsmith9353
    @kirabarsmith9353 6 лет назад +3

    Learned some new things from this, thanks.

  • @starkickermusic2100
    @starkickermusic2100 6 лет назад

    Thanks for the very well done and informative video! And yet another synthesizer on the list of things I want!

  • @georgeray3492
    @georgeray3492 6 лет назад

    Great explanation. Much more musical than the original videos hinted at. The sequencer section, with the subdivision selector switches for each row would be great as a stand-alone device.

  • @Trailer_Sailor
    @Trailer_Sailor 4 года назад

    As always, love your vids...concise & informative. Ty

  • @s90210h
    @s90210h 6 лет назад +34

    Moog essentially made my favourite Serge Dual Universal Slope Generator patch into a standalone box with sequencer! I really really hope these will go into general production.

    • @ubiquitousreverser
      @ubiquitousreverser 6 лет назад +3

      s90210h They did the same w/DFAM I’m certain it will. Or those few who built them at Moogfest will be getting a pretty penny to sell em’.

    • @s90210h
      @s90210h 6 лет назад +6

      I informed Moog about my wish too and they replied with a very enthusiastic tone without actually confirming anything. I'd say it's going to happen.

    • @hammercanttouchthis
      @hammercanttouchthis 6 лет назад

      These aren't in general production 😑

    • @s90210h
      @s90210h 6 лет назад +2

      yet

    • @baaaaaah2503
      @baaaaaah2503 5 лет назад

      s90210h yeet

  • @josephlukasik7543
    @josephlukasik7543 6 лет назад

    Thanks for creating this - super informative and clear.

  • @cuba1956
    @cuba1956 6 лет назад

    Fantastic review! Thanks. Great machine as well, I really hope to see it mass produced at some point.

  • @vatadinal7998
    @vatadinal7998 6 лет назад +16

    MOOG PLEASE! I NEED IT!

  • @Dogboy73
    @Dogboy73 6 лет назад +2

    I want one. Very interesting device. Hope Moog give this a full release ;-)

  • @Fluidstructure
    @Fluidstructure 6 лет назад +2

    I think this paired with the M32 & DFAM will make a very interesting synthesizer. Next level here, great work Moog

    • @SpaceFaceFPV
      @SpaceFaceFPV 2 года назад

      And now 3yrs later, they offer the "Moog sound studio 3" aka "Moog Trinity" bundle. It's so fun! I really like the card game they included that makes patch randomization simple and possible.

  • @CockatooDude
    @CockatooDude 6 лет назад +1

    I love this thing so much, I always loved messing around with harmonics, and now here's a whole box that does just that. Oh yes. Plus the patch bay and the audio rate sequencing could add some really interesting possibilities. Well and they must ad MIDI support if they do decide to put it into production.

  • @MartinDoudoroffLLC
    @MartinDoudoroffLLC 6 лет назад

    Neat device, excellent demo. Particularly nice explanation of subharmonics.

  • @nodfactor8808
    @nodfactor8808 6 лет назад

    SWEET! I do hope they become available.

  • @SuperMegaWoofer3000
    @SuperMegaWoofer3000 6 лет назад

    You make great videos :) I hope they do mass produce them so I can get one for myself!

  • @WeirdMedicine
    @WeirdMedicine 6 лет назад

    Beautiful. This has inspired me with mine. Thank you!

  • @moralzmusic1007
    @moralzmusic1007 6 лет назад

    this is revolutionary for a synth! great way to source unique timbres..i need!

  • @laeshmusic3173
    @laeshmusic3173 4 года назад

    really well explained guys. thanks.

  • @lars-fenin
    @lars-fenin 6 лет назад +1

    very good review.. thanx... the seq. design is very innovative.

  • @willbeazley3185
    @willbeazley3185 5 лет назад

    Moog + polyrhythm = yes please! Seriously hope this becomes available to all!

  • @davidryle
    @davidryle 6 лет назад +4

    This is a great package. Not exactly groundbreaking innovation but it's a fine blend of three good ideas. It's also the first time in years I've seen a truly unique Moog product. The team that put this together needs a medal. I hope it makes the open market. Someone will do this if they don't. Wallet in hand... MAKE IT MOOG!

    • @KiR_3d
      @KiR_3d 6 лет назад

      did you've asked?
      - why here is no square wave osc's?
      - why attack is by switches?
      - why only Low Pass? (i guess it can be done by cords BTW)
      - why no traditional 16 steps seq. as the base?

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 лет назад +3

      1. No square: my guess is both an homage to the trautonium and too much complexity. Then you would have asked for pwm...
      2. Attack: no room (I think there was room for a small knob but who knows)
      3. Low pass only; didn’t ask
      4. 16 step sequencer - that would be missing the whole point (not that there’s room for it)

    • @KiR_3d
      @KiR_3d 6 лет назад

      1. Waveshaping to square is pretty easy _in circuit_ . Basically it can be done just by clipping! One transistor amplifies and two diodes clips it gently (my quick guess). Actually a simple (but dirty) PWM can be done with one CMOS chip :) And if it's an osc. with balancing (not sure here is) then PWM is just an LFO -> PW balance. It's how it works.
      My aim wasn't to show "how smart I am"... just curious "why?"
      2. Here is enough room for a small knob... and even for a mid. one if neighbors will become smaller. Or it can be done by stretching vertical axis-es to left by 1-2 mm in each interval (7 intervals is my count). Another variant: small pot-slider. Easy! :)
      3. Hi-Pass Moog filter (trick, you know it probably): substracting the signal after the filter from the input to this filter. Basically it's one or two op.amps (just one 8-leg IC plus few resistors)
      4. The last is my "wishies" generally :) If here is a CV in then it's not an issue.

  • @andyq9669
    @andyq9669 6 лет назад +1

    Excellent work, well explained, and a very interesting instrument. It's good to see Moog being creative with the DFAM and this machine, they need to do something different considering all the cheap analogue synths competing against their traditional offerings

  • @RandyPiscione
    @RandyPiscione 6 лет назад +40

    Nice demo, thanks. I'll echo those who are hoping this is released as an actual product, it's much more interesting than the Grandmother, at least to me.

  • @rlh1984
    @rlh1984 6 лет назад +10

    DFAM was a limited production synth, and now it's a regular product. Hopefully they'll do it with this and the Grandmother.

  • @analogpoints6990
    @analogpoints6990 6 лет назад

    very nice review. this one would be the perfect last piece in my 2xmother 32 and dfam setup.

  • @sprungingforvoltage
    @sprungingforvoltage 6 лет назад

    amazing! love it! thank you for this.

  • @WeirdMedicine
    @WeirdMedicine 6 лет назад +10

    So...I experimented today and used the PITCH OUT on the DFAM to the CUTOFF IN on the Sub. I didn't sync the clocks so it added yet another polyrhythmic quality and it was stunning. The 4-note subdivided sequence evolved over time as the DFAM caused the filter to open and close on different steps each time. I was actually very impressed and will stick something up on my youtube channel eventually! Thanks again for the inspiration! I'm never selling mine! :-)

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 лет назад

      Very cool! Feel free to link from here if you like - would love to hear it

    • @ZElTGElST
      @ZElTGElST 6 лет назад +3

      Yeah, I would love it too. You can not make that description and dont show it!

  • @johnmiller19925
    @johnmiller19925 6 лет назад

    Holy GAS! Thanks for the video!

  • @mookie714
    @mookie714 6 лет назад +20

    I hope the eventually release this like they did the DFAM.

  • @Wolyboly24
    @Wolyboly24 Год назад

    Love the vid. Thanks for simplifying these concepts for a noob like me

  • @adamvolkinshtein1184
    @adamvolkinshtein1184 6 лет назад +5

    this is. . . . awesome

  • @PaterTenebrarum1
    @PaterTenebrarum1 6 лет назад

    Very unique sequencer. The trautonium oscillators (including formant filters) can be had from Doepfer as well.

  • @ModularLanding
    @ModularLanding 6 лет назад

    Excellent! Fantastic video. Please consider making another video using the Subharmonicon. If you can pair it with a DFAM or M32 that would be even better. Thanks!

  • @fray3dendsofsanity
    @fray3dendsofsanity 6 лет назад +10

    By far the best Semi-Modular Moog yet. Mother 32 was well-rounded but didn't do anything particularly great or unique, DFAM sounded fantastic but had limited sequencing ability on its own, the Subharmonicon is really interesting, unique and doesn't have too much limitation on its own. That 2x4 step sequencer with polyrhythmic subdivisions is an amazing idea and gives you a lot of capability out of very few knobs
    I sold my Mother 32 for an 0-Coast but...
    SIGN ME UP FOR SUBHARMONICON I WANT ONE.

    • @nym053
      @nym053 6 лет назад +2

      I have a DFAM and I find it's sequencer awesome. It's short, but doesn't matter so much to me. It's a synth that really invites me to tweak all the time. I like changing the sequencer several times while playing with this instrument instead of just having it stuck on one the whole time 😊

  • @NicholasGreenwood
    @NicholasGreenwood 6 лет назад +1

    Hopefully this will go into regular production... I'd sooner have this than the DFAM to supplement my Mother-32 (though a DFAM would be lovely as well). Great explanation of how this works.

  • @saji1382
    @saji1382 4 года назад

    man the intro is sick!

  • @MrBoxxed
    @MrBoxxed 6 лет назад

    Thank you
    Nice overview
    Want one!

  • @oliveribasta5929
    @oliveribasta5929 6 лет назад

    This channel is fucking awesome!

  • @ubiquitousreverser
    @ubiquitousreverser 6 лет назад

    Great video, very informative. Its a nice interesting take for moog on a new module. But my money is already done being spent. Settled on a Sub phatty for general synthesis and the 0-coast for deep space exploration.

  • @Tsaddeous
    @Tsaddeous 6 лет назад

    This one is a BEAST !!

  • @ComparativeIrrelevance
    @ComparativeIrrelevance 6 лет назад

    Very cool!

  • @thedrumunkey8582
    @thedrumunkey8582 6 лет назад +1

    wow. This is the first product from Moog I'd actually pay MoogPrice for. Take my money!

  • @felipevareschi7773
    @felipevareschi7773 6 лет назад +26

    Wow this is the first genuinely interesting Moog product released in the past 10 years, Imagine that dual sequencer at 6-8 steps as a standalone module :O
    I wonder why Moog haven't yet released standalone modules of their products, like an official eurorack ladder filter or minimoog VCO.

    • @nicholasroos3627
      @nicholasroos3627 6 лет назад

      ROI maybe? just a guess!

    • @nicholasroos3627
      @nicholasroos3627 6 лет назад +3

      I recall they had a standalone ladder filter and delay in 500 series. Not cheap obviously :p

    • @iqi616
      @iqi616 6 лет назад

      felipe vareschi I agree. It's hard to imagine it's the same company that has produced the bland-sounding Grandmother. I have yet to hear a demo of the GM which sounds remotely interesting to me but after this review (which only scratches the surface of its capabilities) this product is on my wishlist.

    • @Brain4Zombie
      @Brain4Zombie 6 лет назад

      felipe, what about the Mother 32 and the DFAM? They're in eurorack format.

    • @felipevareschi7773
      @felipevareschi7773 6 лет назад +1

      Yes but they are not really flexible, they are full voices. Full voices are not very fun to use with other modular gear since you can't mix and match patching so hard, also I find that normalizing signal path tends to limit patching creativity, also the patch bay is not ergonomic at all.
      What I was talking about were modules dedicated to one block in the signal chain, a single VCO, VCF, VCA or that funky step sequencer, with propper CV ins and outs in the right spots. I think

  • @henrids
    @henrids 6 лет назад

    Some people were criticizing Moog for their reissues of prestige-priced vintage synths, and then this comes! The most interesting mini-analog synth in quite some time.

  • @SONICrider
    @SONICrider 5 лет назад

    Cool you have one of these: what a sound!!

  • @valdiskrebs566
    @valdiskrebs566 6 лет назад

    Very cool instrument... like the variety drones and polyrhythmic sequences that are possible. This and 1 or 2 sequenced Mother 32s... possibilities!

  • @cesarperez-cardenas97
    @cesarperez-cardenas97 6 лет назад

    The only Moog I actually want. I hope. I HOPE. That they release this for the public soon.

  • @Twinsungamer
    @Twinsungamer 6 лет назад

    I just got my DFAM to go with my mother 32 so all i'm waiting for now is to fill my last rack tier with this beauty !

  • @vinckwok5761
    @vinckwok5761 6 лет назад

    this is the best of 32 series!

  • @glennweber9290
    @glennweber9290 6 лет назад

    This is one of the most interesting things Moog has done in a long time.

  • @lucasj7577
    @lucasj7577 6 лет назад

    this is very unique!

  • @enyalauren
    @enyalauren 5 лет назад

    the mother 32, dfam and this would be a godly combination. good job Moog

  • @DietSodium
    @DietSodium 4 года назад +3

    Anyone here after new leaks from Moog? 😏 It's gonna be in production!!

  • @theTerribleFamiliar
    @theTerribleFamiliar 5 лет назад

    Great. Now I need a third semi-modular device from Moog.

  • @nym053
    @nym053 6 лет назад

    Very interesting

  • @janoshtrenhem3573
    @janoshtrenhem3573 3 года назад

    Your videos leave me with more understanding than any other synth related videos. Great work :) I love the oscilloscope and the frequency analyzer, what do you use for that?

    • @loopop
      @loopop  3 года назад

      Thanks! I use scopes by Melda

  • @RemyGold
    @RemyGold 6 лет назад

    Wow this is something I haven't seen...I hope they release it as I don't know anything on the market like it.

  • @randommuiscchannel1049
    @randommuiscchannel1049 6 лет назад

    I need one of these to go with my DFAM, Sub37, and Minitaur...Now!!!

  • @remologpaintingwithsound2912
    @remologpaintingwithsound2912 6 лет назад

    Hey that is really great - Hope they release it- So can you tell me what that little moogfest controller with the purple lights is that you are using right at the end of the video?
    Thanks

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 лет назад

      Thanks / sure it’s called the touché by expressive E

  • @ssmith2019
    @ssmith2019 6 лет назад

    This is what the M32 SHOULD have been ! No 1 oscillator parches in my bag of tricks ! WOW ~ O K ~ right around 11:00 min. in . . . you blow my mind ! This I'd BUY !

  • @remuted8656
    @remuted8656 2 года назад

    I find this layout a bit more intuitive (minus the clockwise motion to get lower notes!) and likely to cause fewer accidental tempo changes with the sequencers at the bottom!

  • @quad3r
    @quad3r 5 лет назад +1

    What’s the name of that surface pad thingy you were playing with at the near end of your video?
    Maybe it would be cool to have details of the machines you use for your demos for the next videos(:
    I appreciate your videos by the way

    • @dragomiralexandru754
      @dragomiralexandru754 5 лет назад +1

      cdm.link/2018/05/the-touche-adding-expression-to-synths-just-in-time-for-moogfest/ found it

  • @Jimbo386000
    @Jimbo386000 5 лет назад

    This is fucking awesome, I don’t see why they won’t release it!

  • @justinmccamish9059
    @justinmccamish9059 4 года назад +13

    Looks like Sweetwater might have let the cat out of the bag in their latest email.

    • @ithurt3748
      @ithurt3748 4 года назад +2

      Justin McCamish they are making it?

    • @SorchaSublime
      @SorchaSublime 4 года назад

      @@ithurt3748 apparently.

    • @christopherpederson1021
      @christopherpederson1021 4 года назад

      @@SorchaSublime Tomorrow baby

    • @SorchaSublime
      @SorchaSublime 4 года назад +1

      @@christopherpederson1021 hopefully this means that We will get the spectavox at some point (which im mre interested in personally).
      also, I hope im not alone in preferring the moogfest faceplates? the silver looks a lot better than the black to me, idk why. I feel like it should be an option,

    • @mikeexits
      @mikeexits 4 года назад

      @@ithurt3748 It's been confirmed in the last 24 hours I believe.

  • @cci35
    @cci35 6 лет назад

    Amazing walkthrough - if the Subharmonicon ever becomes available I'm sure I'd pick it up either way, but this video took away all doubt that I've had. Sidenote: what kind of controller are you using to control the filter (and vco2 sub1 if I'm not mistaken?) - it looks rad :)

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 лет назад +1

      Thanks! And yes that controller is very cool - it’s called the expressive e touché

  • @felipesigne901
    @felipesigne901 5 лет назад

    Great video, a little question slightly off topic: what is the tuning visualisation on the left windows from 4:37 and following? It seems really useful and i'm looking for just that...

    • @loopop
      @loopop  5 лет назад

      Thanks! It’s just the Ableton tuner

  • @girlinagale
    @girlinagale 5 лет назад

    Star Trek Discovery synth from Moog, what a delight.

  • @mattsynth
    @mattsynth 6 лет назад

    Great post, this can creates very interesting patterns. Could you output the sequence gate & pitch to a Mother 32 or DFAM using the patchbay? I also see no front panel midi input so I am guessing that there may be a 1V input for pitch control.

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 лет назад

      mattsynth right - no midi, the sequencer is pure analog - and yes, you can output the clock per sequence. There is no gate.

  • @edjwise
    @edjwise 6 лет назад +4

    Can you make a track with all 3 moog units? patched and synched and interactive together. I would love to hear how they all work together.

    • @jsogman
      @jsogman 5 лет назад

      My fantasy ATM as I'm currently focusing on the possibilities of M32 and Dfam together. it seems like they would be a dream trio for sure

  • @gregcoles9175
    @gregcoles9175 6 лет назад +1

    Hey this is a great tutorial - just like all your others! Could you upload an extended review of the patchbay? I feel like this machine has the capacity to get pretty crazy - be great to hear those sounds!

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 лет назад +1

      Thank you. I am putting out another video about building it today. Regarding the patch bay - I wonder how much more to talk about the Subharmonicon before they release it officially - if they ever do. If they don’t it will be a very theoretical video....

    • @gregcoles9175
      @gregcoles9175 6 лет назад

      Haha! I take your point about it being theoretical. If it does remain unreleased I guess your video will likely be the only opportunity the rest of us synth heads to get to hear it in action! :)

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 лет назад +1

      Judging from the response here it would be silly not to release it. If/when they announce I promise a patch bay video... ;)

  • @TheRangeControl
    @TheRangeControl 4 года назад

    Which software/plug-ins are you using for the oscilloscopes, which you layer onto the screen when explaining oscillation and fundamental harmonic keys?

  • @JeanSuki
    @JeanSuki 6 лет назад

    I wonder, are the subs pretty much divide down circuit like you'd find in the Polymoog?

  • @nxdRulezZz
    @nxdRulezZz 5 лет назад

    Amazing and very informative made me to think about making Max patch of this beast! could you please tell me what is that crazy pedal you using at the end of the video? Cheers!

    • @loopop
      @loopop  5 лет назад +1

      Thanks! It’s an Touché by Expressive E

    • @nxdRulezZz
      @nxdRulezZz 5 лет назад

      Thank you!

  • @huhabab
    @huhabab 6 лет назад

    I need this thing,

  • @thom-alphaxiii-5106
    @thom-alphaxiii-5106 6 лет назад

    Lovely sounds, interesting concept, very fresh and creative way to make music, but quite complex, not for beginners like me i guess. A tool made for trent reznor and atticus ross? Id’love to see it in action with other gear, M32 and DFAM of course but also with modules like distinkt to quantize it, like you did previously on a DFAM video if i remember correctly. Thanks for this another great video, hope to see more of this moog and this beautiful custom moogfest edition « touché » by expressive-e. This excellent french midi cv controller is on my top list to pair with my matrixbrute; thx again, your sounds are so good and your explainations , even for very complex stuff, always easy to understand - even for people like me for whom english is not the main / native language-! Congrats

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 лет назад +1

      Thanks very much for the comment - I appreciate it! A lot to do now ;) by the way, the beauty of this for melodies is that unlike DFAM you don’t need to quantize it to make it work because the subharmonics take care of it for you. I didn’t use a quantizer in any of the music I made

    • @thom-alphaxiii-5106
      @thom-alphaxiii-5106 6 лет назад

      loopop good to know! i won’t buy a dfam for « everyday scaled music » , it’s just that sometimes you need it to « fit » in a song and it can be quite complex when you’re not used to microscaling (but i’m not an expert in synthesis at all, so as a noob i guess it would be easier to build « around » this synth?) anyway, i really hope moog will release this synth later like the DFAM (or the werkstatt if i remember correctly), i really think thaht moog makes the right move with on one side the D, sub37, minitaur, the new grandmother etc and on the other side the M32 DFAM and this new baby. 3 machines that fit together - a little bit like the elektron trinity back in time- and 3 tier rack option, huuum i’m pretty sure they gonna sell it in one year or so. By the way, « loopop » is a channel that more and more people quote as « quality music gear channel » in france on music forums , you can be « proud » lol. Cheers

    • @aeropilot4419
      @aeropilot4419 6 лет назад

      THOM AlphaXIII agree, great channel ... I've learned so much

  • @saam6768
    @saam6768 5 лет назад +1

    So my question, is how is this sub-harmonic calculated? Because the undertone series isn't something that is strictly defined, right?

  • @HammondB200
    @HammondB200 6 лет назад

    is this wat divide down polyphony is? as in the polyphonic section in the
    realistic mg-1 or moog liberation

  • @thomas854
    @thomas854 4 года назад

    Damn it Moog, instead of releasing the Sirin and Sub 25 just give us this awesome and very unique piece of gear already!

  • @jerewind
    @jerewind 6 лет назад

    Thank you for those great explanations ! What is the plug-in used to visualized the harmonics in this video, please?

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 лет назад

      Thanks - it’s Ableton Spectrum

    • @jerewind
      @jerewind 6 лет назад

      Thanxxx

  • @rlh1984
    @rlh1984 6 лет назад +69

    Moog can't have all my money. They must be stopped.

    • @lukecreel7293
      @lukecreel7293 6 лет назад

      do you really want them to stop? :)

    • @KiR_3d
      @KiR_3d 6 лет назад +1

      produce synths by yourself ))

    • @eddiek132
      @eddiek132 6 лет назад +2

      The internet is such a cruel place for sarcasm to thrive ; eh Reg?

    • @homeslice1479
      @homeslice1479 5 лет назад

      Sadly your wallet might be saved here; I haven't heard any plans on releasing it to the public. It was only for VIP attendees of Moogfest 2018 :(

    • @josehaya6362
      @josehaya6362 5 лет назад +1

      homeslice1479 but that was the case with the DFAM and now it is public

  • @christoroppolo8742
    @christoroppolo8742 6 лет назад

    Gorgeous. Peace Christo

  • @jean-pierrejoubert6140
    @jean-pierrejoubert6140 6 лет назад +4

    Super cool!
    I've been curious for a while: What tools are you using to view/display the frequencies on your computer?

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 лет назад +9

      Thanks! Ableton Spectrum and Melda Moscilloscope

    • @jean-pierrejoubert6140
      @jean-pierrejoubert6140 6 лет назад +4

      Awesome, thanks! I'll look into them. Love your videos, btw! Always super informative!

    • @Byronic19134
      @Byronic19134 6 лет назад

      Melda makes some amazing plugs. Theyre MXCCC app can make u lose days off ur life lost in it.