That's what we learnt in Filipino Martial Arts as well. Knife fighting is a large part of Kali and those guys will be the first to tell you that if you're in a knife fight you absolutely will get carved up.
One day our instructor made us do knife defense techniques with Sharpies. Lesson: you’re going to get cut no matter what. You’re just trying not to die.
My Krav Maga teacher always said that the best defence against a knife is to give the guy your wallet, your phone and then piss off and stop walking through shitty neighborhoods. A man of infinite wisdom he was.
@@ranfan1820 lol. I once had teacher at the same dojo tell me "the best way to win a fight is not to be there." Kyokushin teachers btw. Garbage style. I left after 6 months. They were the only teachers to tell me something that dumb.
@@realamericannegro977 I mean, hey if somebody with a big ass knife confronts you, giving him your things is the safer route instead of trying to fight him and potentially getting stabbed into oblivion. Generally, I'd only try real defense if there was a way to get help from other people around like screaming
@@realamericannegro977 cause he is right, is very stupid to fight over material things when your life is in danger sure you can do it if you want but is not recommendable. the teacher will obviously teach you the techniques to deal with it but if you can run then you should, the techniques are used as a last resource. And teachers say "the best way to win a fight is not to be there." because there are a lot of idiots that are picking or getting in unnecessary fights just becuse they learned some martial arts
Or remain calm and Wing Chun! Most people who use a knife are untrained, but I sometimes carry a knife, openly so, if it comes out in actual use(never has) it goes to spots we learn in Wing Chun. But last weekend one guy I guess saw mine, and said if you stabbed me I will push you down. I said no that would be funny. And said I do not stab people so no worries. It is funny because I can not in anyway conceive how he would be able to after a few seconds. If he did push me, he would then claps to the ground as he would rise his blood pressure after receiving a possible fatal blow. His best bet at that point would be to hold the wound tight and get immediate medical attention. I seen a few stabbing in my life, and both times the stab was not fatal, but into the gut and one into the arm or shoulder. I will not get into it, but that is not where my blade would likely go. I will likely never need to pull it out in any real situations where it gets used. Same day just earlier, I see a guy go into a bag for a weapon after riding past him, then from a safe distance I pull mine out, and even showed him, not how I would be using it, rather a just a back off “I do Wing Chun” warning, and you best think about that boy! That guy and his buddy leave the spot, as I rode away and circled back to see if they did five mins later. But I was 20 feet or more away when I drew mine out the first time on a bike and warned him to leave the area as I was calling the cops. So I read the situation, is that person an ass clown thieve or some nut ball killer. I had away to slip away fast in that case too. If trapped I stand my ground and Wing Chun. Where I live stabbing are as common as daylight or as common as shooting in America. In an actual situation the knife stays hidden away, and never pulled out in a manner that is is seen be the attacker, used effectively only onto points to disarm them in our systems style, or 100% fatal-no middle ground stabs of anger into belly or shoulders. Calm precise movements, same way we deal with an attack. Trap the wrist or elbow, and fight the person not the weapon. But wither way run or ride away fast and get to a safe spot is always best and call out fire, help or rape. Carry pepper spray if legal or just do it away and an emergence whistle and blow it hard and get away. And remember stay calm use or darting fingers to eyes or thumb nails, and keep moving. A moving target is hard to stab or hit. Do not trap yourself, wave down a car, be seen get into lit spot. Alway keep moving towards the safest spot. Always keep fighting if it gets to that point. And shoulder blades are shields, our hands are shield, feet if on back are shields, and kick, punch gouge eyes, and scream. More attention to scene, less likely they stab you, and flee. Also keys are weapons, and toss away a bag, wallet, bike, purse or cash, then run toward safest well lit place. Even middle of street! Wave down a car! Welcome to Winnipeg son home of the stabbyest people in Canada!
For all the fun that is being poked at them, there is something you may be overlooking here. I will try to analogize what I mean: if a boxing trainer is trying to show you how to do a shoulder roll against a cross but you insist on leg-kicking him, you are not 'attacking in the right way' either, but that does not mean that the shoulder roll is 100% bullshit. It works great against something, given some premises. Or if a BJJ person is trying to show you a sweep against the mount, but you do not enter the mount. For whatever the Krav Maga, aikido or whatever the supposed experts are doing, there may be a degree of specificity that is going unexplained by them or unheard by you. Empathy towards them as well is something you do for yourself, because otherwise you are going to lock yourself out of insight. And most likely you will never realize you did.
@Full Moon I believe there was a reference to there being a lot of bad Krav Maga instructors. That's one of the most popular reasons given by CF defenders whenever it's pointed out how CFers tend to use garbage form or do unnecessarily risky movements: "They must have one of the bad coaches." It's kind of the, "The reason socialism has never worked is because true socialism has never been tried" argument for fitness folks. :)
@@radeczech15 crossfit is about doing bullshit without form nor technique, just manage it to do it no matter how bad you are doing it which give you not only mediocre results but also endangers your health by getting hurt
You need to find a proper trainer like in anything. Taekwondo is horseshit as well as BJJ Muay Thai, Boxing, Kung Fu, etc if taught by the wrong instructor
This is why most martial arts training in amurica is just pissing your hard earned $ away. Avoiding the fight is your training....when the aggressor or aggressor's want to hurt you. Apparently you missed the whole point of this vid. you own a dojo or send your 3yr old to one? p.s it's not a day car center!
That is true. If you are a martial artist you do not go around bragging how much of a badass you are. It will only attract more assholes who want to pick a fight with you and hurt you. Its not just about worrying that YOU will get hurt. Actually, you likely will get into more trouble if you hurt someone else and overreact. Think about this. Its like owning a gun. A responsible gun owner should keep his firearm in a safe place. You never ever use it out of anger, or retaliation. You only fire it at someone when there is absolutely no other way to defend yourself or someone you care. If you use it improperly, you will end up having serious legal problems later on. Same thing happens when you are training and do not become aware of your own strength. You start becoming reckless. If you do not get hurt, you will end up hurting someone so bad you go to Jail for it, and think of the trouble you will end up having. Been doing martial arts not because I am a van damme wannabe. Its a way for me to trim a bit of the love handle and live a disciplined lifestyle. PLus not all forms of martial arts are meant for combat. I have learned to appreciate the art of it,
I served in the IDF Krav Maga (literally contact combat) is taught in several levels. 1. In basic training they generally teach how not to freeze in combat. They do so by aggression exercises and simulation mostly to get you acquainted with the rush of dopamine and getting used to reacting in that situation. 2. Later on in advanced training they teach several basic yet useful technics for self defense using the riffle as a striking weapon. 3. Soldiers who go on to become officers and or serve in elite unites learn more advance technics which are comparable to MMA though with a bit more emphasis on real life situations. This training is highly effective. Not all instructors who teach 1. are actually trained in 3. and that is why in the Israeli army the Krav Maga instructors from basic training get often laughed at by soldiers. I suppose ppl who try "selling" Krav Maga in the US are actually knowledgable only about 1. and use 3. as a selling point.
I've seen some IDF training and the instructor was female. She was ruthless. Went for the eyes, throat, balls. She showed fighting against a group and to stay on your feet and move away from the attackers. I was pretty impressed with her. She embodied 'kill or be killed.'
I've seen some krav maga demos on the net from israel military and looks all staged like some other matial arts like hapkido. Doing fancy things and flipping around, which would not likely work out that way in a real situation.
Well having a gun is a great thing but sometimes self defence doesnt come down to just shoot the son of a bitch there simply are situations where a gun is not practical nor appropriate
Tahallon these reddit woosh comments are getting a bit fucking boring. Is no one original in the world anymore, just a bunch of parroting sheep? I remember when you used to go 30 miles down the road and it was like walking into another country, they'd have different words and expressions for everything, now the whole world is an unimaginative homogenous shit pit.
Jason Stagg I've found a big stick, baseball bat, cricket bat, bar stool, chair, anything that can be used as a ranged weapon is pretty effective at keeping them at bay. Shit, I've even seen a wheely bin being used.
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A krav maga expert taught me how to be a krav maga expert in 2 minutes. He gathered up a sack of groceries, and said "attack me" so I did. He threw the groceries at me and kicked me in the balls. While I was lying on the ground he said " Now your a krav maga expert too."
In my Krav Maga class with regards to knife fighting my trainer always taught us to get out as fast as possible. He said you will always get hurt in a knife fight and we practiced basically protecting our vital organs and getting out of the situation as fast as possible, and he taught us to keep calm under intense stress by constantly drilling it into us until it was second nature. I completely understand what you're saying though, I'm glad I went to such a good guy honestly. It changed my life.
When confronted with a knife, if running is not a valid option you are just going to have to accept that you are going to get cut/stabbed so take measures to make sure the injury won't kill you.
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That would probably work to diffuse a situation...or at least confuse them enough to make them think about what it is they're really doing..."Excuse me, I was watching this self-defense video on youtube, and the attacker came at me like this. Do you think when you go to stab me, you can come at me like this? Oh and go slowly, I've never practiced with anyone" The reaction you'd get would be one of, "What the fuck did you say? Nevermind, just give me your wallet and fuck off, will you."
I was in a knife fight once in my life. I had my book bag between me and him, I knocked the knife out of his hand with it and turned and ran like hell. Scared the shit out of me. It happened so fast at the time I did not even recognize the knife at the time, I just heard the clatter as I knocked it out of his hand. More my luck than anything else. A back pack or briefcase could be used as a shield, but don't rely on it.
*Getting mugged in an ally at knife point* "Ha! I know Krav Maga! You're going down!" *Stabbed in the side* "Hang on! I want a re-do! I wasn't ready" *37 stab wounds later...* "....YOU'RE NOT DOING IT RRRIIIIIIIIiiiigggggggghhhhhhttttt....."
It's really interesting to see somebody who is not a Krav Maga practitioner actually know about the struggle of being mistaken and/or having your practice's reputation tarnished by fakes and charlatans. I'd like to shed some insights on that and some of the other topics you mentioned including the military/civilian KM differences. Also I don't mean to virtue signal I'll just say it to give context and hopefully credibility to what I'm about to say: I have trained 7 years under both a direct disciple of Imi Lichtenfeld (KM's creator) and an ex-Israeli military elite division KM instructor and I do not proclaim to be anywhere near a master on it, however I do know a lot about Krav Maga and hopefully this will inform you or others about it. Firstly, KM was developed initially as a self-defense technique by Imi Lichtenfeld to defend against the fascist aggressions him and his jewish community faced during in Hungary on the onset of WW2, he developed the techniques by refining many techniques from several martial arts he knew by distilling them to the most "straight to the point" versions. It was only after he fled to what would later become Israel that he started teaching it to the military as a military focused technique. It was only way later in his life, at the 80s decade that he decided to start teaching it to the general populace. On his deathbed, Imi decided not to name a "successor" to the title of KM grand-master and instead assigned his 13 most talented pupils to disseminate KM all over the globe, as his lifelong dream was that if everybody knew how to defend themselves, nobody would have to. Among those 13 was Kobi Lichtenstein, the youngest, who started training KM at the tender age of 4 and who was the only one who left Israel and decided to come over to Brazil to teach here (and is the person I mentioned on the first paragraph). He and some of the other 13 decided to keep KM true to the teachings of Imi, refusing to make additions or changes to it, whereas others tried to add their own changes and developments to it. Some changed it into a more competition focused MMA-style version, others incorporated more diverse martial arts techniques to it, some invented their own new moves. So from this onset already, KM lost some of it's identity except for the disciples who chose to remain completely faithful to the initial form of KM (Kobi being one of them). That is one part of why you can look at the techniques of different KM practitioners and notice such great disparities between them. The second factor to that would be that given the success of Israeli military, KM became notorious worldwide, to the point where the a very large amount of military and law enforcement forces around the globe chose to adopt it as their CQC engagement techniques (although there are of course numerous notorious exceptions to this, the US being the most obvious one). So, depending on the country, either KM masters would teach law enforcement officers in short crash courses or many would fly to Israel to learn a thing or two about KM over a certain timespan and then teach their officers some techniques back at home. Many states would then, in order to save taxpayer money, assign their own officers to teach new ones, instead of paying for new crash courses every time. Many of these officers, or even their own students would later on proceed to open their own "Krav Maga" courses, which were, of course nothing like the proper Krav Maga, as it was being taught by men who not only took an incredibly short crash course on it, but also a crash course focused for law enforcement/military action, which is significantly different from what is taught to the general populace, mainly due to soldiers/military personnel having much different responsibilities, limitations and tools available. Since KM does not hold any competitions or an internationally unified association with uniform classification system to which every practitioner must belong to and each of the 13 disciples decided to start their own association, with no one being hierarchically superior to the other, it is extremely hard to ascertain any individual's qualifications when they claim to be a Krav Maga master, making it extremely easy for quacks and charlatans to proclaim that they're a master and due to it's notoriety many gullible people go to it, learn some completely unrelated nonsense and then go around spreading false rumors about it and tarnishing it's reputation. I'm certain the person claiming to be a KM instructor who gave you the knife combat "lesson" was one such individual, as from what you told in the video, that did not resemble at all how we disarm knives (mainly because in traditional KM we don't even focus on the disarming part, we focus on neutralizing the threat, first, disarming is literally the last thing we do after the aggressor is already under control). As for the military/civillian differences, you are partially correct. The basic recruits were only taught aggression and war-related moves, like defending yourself using your rifle, or disarming firearms but they didn't actually get to learn to fight properly. In elite units, or for soldiers actually pursuing a military career they would offer more comprehensive training (albeit still focused on war, obviously). However, this does not mean that the traditional KM taught to civilians is a direct copy of what is taught to military troops. For one, military personnel don't have to worry about excessive use of force in retaliation, whereas civilians do and doubly so if they are police officers who have even stricter guidelines to prevent police brutality. The list of differences is enormous, but were I to even try and list all of them, then that'd make this already wall of text comment seem like a tweet. I'd just like to end by saying that despite KM's reputation of being all about vicious brutality with eye gouges and groin strikes (and even bites, yes we do that too), we also and *MOSTLY* do learn how to defend ourselves and fight normally and even have techniques made specifically for defending against certain moves from other martial arts along with so many other things that don't even fall exclusively into moves, going from day-to-day behavior like learning how to detect someone wishing to mug you, to how to intimidate someone (if necessary) to prevent getting into a fight, to learning criminal behavior patterns, to anatomy and trauma phisiology and the list goes on and on. It is unfortunate that people immediately dismiss KM as dirty fighting and immediately label practitioners as unskilled cowards. Lastly, (and if you're still reading this) I'd like to thank Ramsey for this video and anybody who showed enough interest to read all this. Kida!
Pants off Dance off, I read your entire comment. It was educational. If you could help me, do you have the source or sources of where I can find Imi speaking about his life long dream "if everybody knew how to defend themselves, nobody would have to. "? As a KM instructor myself, I am no master, my wife and I focus on communities to learn KM for a time such as this. Shalom.
In 2010 when we held a celebration to what would have been Imi's 100th birthday were he still alive, there were talks of Imi's biography being either in the works or released (I can't quite recall which, its been a while). I am not 100% positive either, if it was being made only in Portuguese, or if they were planning on making an English version as well. Either way, all of what I described above about Imi will be in that biography (which I presume should be done by now even if it wasn't back then) in much greater details and listing all the sources. Try searching around for it on google. If you only find the portuguese version, let me know and I'll try to find out more about that quote. Personally, having been taught by someone who was a direct pupil of Imi's, I've only seen them mention it from what they themselves said from what they knew about him while under his tutelage, I've never seen or felt the need to check for records of it, unfortunately.
LENGTHY DESCRIPTION BUT WELL SAID (I also have taken KM before along with other Martial Arts)... WITH ANY MARTIAL ART, ALWAYS MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THE LEGIT CREDENTIALS OF THE SCHOOL/INSTRUCTORS (Karate, Taekwondo, Judo, Jujitsu, Krav Maga, MMA... even Boxing). And I actually found it effective to learn multiple Martial Arts even if you choose one style/art as your main/favorite...
Ive trained Filipino Martial arts for about 5 years now... I've done many, many hours of full contact knife sparring... It doesn't matter who you are, if you get into a knife fight you will get cut period. Awesome video!
@@cuzz63 I sincerely doubt they would use a real knife in sparring, full contact or otherwise. Bad for business if students keep bleeding out due to being stabbed and cut with knives. But who knows, I guess.
I took Krav classes for over a year and loved it, my instructor was a good one, with the knife takeaways he always emphasized that there is no easy way to disarm a guy with a knife and that the stuff he was teaching was only for a life or death scenario where you had no choice but to deal with a knife wielding guy. He always said, you will almost certainly get cut/stabbed before you can take it away, but his techniques were geared towards making sure you didn't get hit in your vitals in the process. It's actually easier in close quarters to deal with a guy with a gun, knives in close quarters are extremely difficult to deal with.
That shouldn't even be necessary. It's just obvious. You have to literally be some kind of kung fu god to perform fancy knife-counters when someone is trying to stab you to death.
Knife fighting is a stand alone art form . Even a mindless untrained person with malice can kill you with a knife! Just Slashing will bleed you out in minutes!
Listened to an interview with a former Navy hand to hand combat instructor. He said to get an idea of what true street fighting/ attacks look like then look at prison attack footage. Scary.
yep the truth about street fights is that wither they will outnumber or out weapon you if possible, the best even trained people can hope for is to knock one or two and get the fuck out
@Star Buck until they see you out when they with a group, street fights have serious implications other than just the momentary pain and there is no honor unlike people like to think
First rule of fighting for me...I’m only 5’5”. RUN AWAY if I can; cause simple physics dictates I’m going to be at a massive disadvantage no matter what. Only if I can’t run, then fight using my training.
When he talked soldiers being trained in self defense for only 2 weeks, I was "trained" in self defense for 1 week when I was going through training to work at a prison. Everything they taught would not have helped me the only thing that could, and did on one occasion, was my past experience in being in several street fights several years prior to working at a prison. If someone has never been in an actual fight, they are in for a rude awakening no matter the self defense training they have went through. The adrenaline rush and the pure chaos of a real fight cannot be replicated you have to experience it to have any understanding of a real fight.
As a RUclips expert of martial arts I can tel you this video is completely false! Krav Maga is the greatest martial arts, no instructor of Krav Maga would lose to someone like this dude You can trust me because even though I haven’t taken a single martial arts class I have watched 3 YES 3 videos about martial arts not counting this false video. On a real note love your videos Ramsey. Keep it up.
@@MzuMzu-nx1em itll also be inaccurate and not deal enough damage to throw someone off if they have adrenaline, probably. You would have to shoot it in one of their eyes or throat to do any real damage if its a super tiny pea shooter probably.
Krav Maga can suffer from an obsession with faux brutality at the cost of functional full contact training. Groin kicks and eye gouges are supplemental techniques not one size fits all delivery systems.
Clarence Baluca I've finished a fight with eye jab as a kid and as a young man bouncing. Actually I just saw a quick video just last here on yt last week on self defense. The guy stepped towards his intended victum from just outside of reach and the intended victum extended his arm out long range as he came in intentionally to the eyes. The guy ate fingers so deep he flinched by backing away and immediately reaching for his eyes and was assessing himself. His big aggressive adrenaline move in was stumped and he stopped completely everything he was planning on doing. Fight over! Just saying. That's not true. Do you bank on it? That's not the question. Can it end an encounter with a wannabe tough guy. - 100% But I hear you - like this brother said mindset supplemental but take whatever you can get.
Clarence Baluca you gouged his eye out and he kept attacking you?! Was the guy on drugs or something? I knew people can be stupid, but i didnt realize they could be that stupid. Details, man, details!
Ramsey Dewey It’s not related to this particular thread, but regarding the knife defences scenario where you took your shirt off to use defending against the shoddy Krav Maga instructor with a bruised ego: if I was the criminal with the knife I’d be stabbing you all up your side while you’re trying to take your shirt off. You think a criminal is going to be nice and wait for you to get your defences ready? No way. Forget taking your cloths off. Nine times out of ten you won’t have time. If you do, you probably also have a distance advantage that would enable you to run away, which is the preferred option if possible.
Clarence Baluca OK but was this person in a life or death situation against you? After you attacked his eye was it necessary for him to continue attacking you to survive? If someone, for example, offended me and I attacked him and he put a finger in my eye I would run away or something, I would not continue attacking. Being insulted or wanting someones wallet is not worth risking losing my eye IMO.
When I worked corrections, they would drill into our heads during defensive tactics "if you end up fighting an inmate that has a shank, *YOU'RE GOING TO GET CUT.* You have to accept that and keep fighting, never give up." I liked that approach, they didn't try and sugarcoat it and act like we'd be just fine.
As my Jiu Jitsu trainer once said.. realistic knife defence is grabbing a chair or anything to keep the knife away. Fancy disarms takes a LOT of practice to work
@@mathieuboumal1394 it's good for training soldiers in a matter of two weeks to handle hand to hand combat. If you want a martial art I'd go for Jiu Jitsu.
I was in Roman-Greek wrestling. My coach always told us the real life is not the ring. Play dirty, punch,kick, break bones if needed just so you can stay alive.
so what is your plane when the guy with the knife can do the same in 47 seconds ... and you just showed him your back ... meaning the cleanest shot at your kidneys possible ... my knife defense system has a caliber ... and muzzle velocity ...
@@petelee2477 I don't really practise parkour myself, but quite a few of my friends are proficient. We call it, among other things, "the noble art of running away."
I was in a krav Maga-ish self defense program for several years, and the first thing we taught them was if it's just your wallet, hand it over. But if it's your life, or they're trying to take you somewhere, fight for your life. You're likely going to get cut, but a cut on the arm is a lot better than a cut to the neck or torso.
I was reading on a website teaching krav maga, and the first thing they taught was that the guy who avoids a fight also goes unhurt. The first things taught was situational awareness, how to recognize potentially dangerous situations, and how to deescalate. Then the real martial arts training was basically how to get away. I feel like that is a genuinely good self defense course.
that's what they teach in krav maga... but sometimes you don't have a choice and you can NOT afford getting stabbed in that heart... because then you would die if not be hindered in the ability to run faster than your attacker.
Faced one knife working as a bouncer. Got cut before I knocked him out. Very lucky he missed anything important. Didn't know he had a knife or that I'd been cut on my wrist, until after it was over.
There is really only one difference when it comes to knife fights, and it's the location you bleed to death. The loser will die in the street, and the winner dies in an ambulance.
From someone who's trained Silat and Kali, people are usually very unaware just how brutally fast you actually get killed if someone has a knife and knows how to use it. Also, in the real world you'll never see it coming until it's inside your body.
There aren't many people who underestimate knives. I come across far more people who grossly over estimate knives. They seam to think that having a knife magically gives an untrained individual with no experience of fighting a 100% chance to win and cause serious injury to absolutely any other person.
You’re right about the Banner of Krav Maga, So many people and schools claim Krav Maga yet they’re not legitimate Krav Maga practitioners. You brought up great points and I’ve had similar experiences. I agree that there are a lot of charlottens claiming they do Krav Maga. I’ve been blessed to have trained in the Israeli military variation and you’re spot on in that it’s about switching on with 200% aggression. True Krav Maga isn’t a fun family friendly training environment. It’s High Intensity and it’s brutal, reality training where you’ll learn the truth about your fighting capabilities REALLY quick. I’ve come across schools in the states where I looked at their training and shook my head because I recognized that these people are going to get hurt in a real fight. I thought this was a GREAT video with great points made.
I am a Taekwondo black belt trained by a Korean and I had to learn that even if I'm might good standing up and striking I needed to learn how to fight in a clinch or on the ground. So the bottom line is no art is perfect. Good video by the way
I’m a trained observer of witnesses for 47 years and you have all the traits of being the most honest man that I have ever observed. You are quite simply unique!
This guy is misinformed! First the training is over 2 weeks! Second there are military training and civilian training. The Lichtenfeld who actually development it used a Combination of boxing and wrestling! Another thing this guy don’t understand is that they actually have a total belt category up to Blackbelt for civilians. Seems to me this RUclipsr is either jealous or misinformed. This RUclipsr should have done some research!
i doubt that anybody with bare hands will ever choose to get in to knife fight - problem is knife fight will choose you and you should be better prepared for it
@Hitsuran a gun will not safe you. A knife fight usualy starts with you already having a knife in your body. The attacker usualy conceals the knife while apporaching so your gun will literaly do nothing. Best you can do is avoid fatal woulds and try to disarm him before you are beyond help
DEUCE Spatial awareness is something that should be brought up more when it comes to these kind of situations. Being able to consistently be aware your surroundings and the people in them, to know what kind of threat they could pose is one of the fastest ways to diffuse from even dealing with any of those situations in the first place. Or you can just put away your machismo for a bit and realize your life ain’t worth a wallet and several hundred dollars.
@@silentartist7854 true for the most part. Sometimes, there is literally nothing you can do. Some maiac recently just stabbed a random person in day light, on a busy street. There is no way to avoid an attack like that.
Frankly, I'm trying to see where the "krav maga" guy was in his head. It's highly rude and disrespectful to walk into somebody else's dojo/training center and try to hijack their customers like that.
I did krav maga on and off for about two years or so. The best thing I can say is that the punching/kicking combos we practiced were fine, but even then, the "advanced" krav maga students still had orange belt level proficiency despite many of them having taken the classes for years. But that's on top of the fact that we were learning horrible groundfighting techniques and knife/gun disarms that would get you killed if you tried them against a real aggressor.
I started point-scoring Karate, and after 4 years I realised its not the best, most practical art so I started Krav Maga. In retrospect, Karate was maybe the better choice, because as bad as it was, at least we did spar. In KM the "attacker" would do one slow motion attack, and I would "defend", pretend to unleash a dozen hits on him, and he would pretend to take those hits.
Bad Krav Maga school. Maybe 3/4 are bad. Like all things shopping around usually helps. Any school endorsed by Itay Gil of Protect should be to a good standard. Any school with instructors that are former Israeli combat soldiers should be good. There’s a lot of pretenders out there. If they don’t spar and train above 50% intensity walk away.
You picked a McDojo Krav Maga school. I was on a legid IKMF school which i found through IKMF at Israel. IKMF comes straight from Imi Lichtenfeld. Our straining was 80% or more sparring, and if i look back to the bruises, it became as real as it could. We sparred on stairs, in narrow spaces in disco situations with loud music and strobo's i a dark place. We sparred in busses, cars, between chars and tables in full winter clothes and working outfits. Our instructor often came up with some guy from the group which suddenly, without you to know it, took party with the agressor. Thats how real Krav Maga training looks like. And the hardest thing we always did at the end of the training when everyone was tired, just like the end of a hard days work. If you do not recognize my description of the training, you never done Krav Maga, at least not a legit one. And a fake Krav Maga is as good as no Krav Maga.
IceCold11235 I have a "Yellow belt" from the Krav Maga Alliance, we actually did full contact sparing in our class, and I respect my instructor. In my time training with this organization, I observed and practiced techniques that were useful and ones that were ridiculous.Most of the useful skills taught were borrowed from boxing, Muay Thai, Karate and even from BJJ. One of the elements that made my time useful was that there was another student was a Muay Thai instructor who was there to "add to his toolbox", training with him benefited me, tremendously, and he later because one of MY Muay Thai instructors. The other positive was having an open minded Krav Maga instructor who also trained in BJJ, who encouraged students to expand their skills and involved us in seminars given by BJJ instructors, Muay Thai instructors and even firearms experts.
Dude, when i did krav maga the guy instructed the border militia, real hard people, and the drills were brutal, once a cop pased out from the kicks, in a test someone break the other's hand and the girl ace the test like it was no big deal, if it was choking drills you will get tf choked if you dont pay attention to the exercise and release from the choke, i've seen 2nd dan black belt karate shitting in the first sparring sesion...
Krav Maga, MMA and BJJ instructor here. I have to advertise Krav Maga as MMA inclusive, even in Israel, because of all the fake instructors out there that don't advance more than the theoretical in striking or anything else. Krav Maga and MMA are close cousins. Same striking, boxing, kicking, takedown defense, takedown and grappling... all while sticking to the basics (so no fancy spinning shit/complex takedown sequences that are high risk for getting countered) And while in Krav Maga we do have submission holds and chokes, we understand the focus IRL comes down to striking over BJJ, so our focus lies in the former. Firearm and knife defense takes years to become competent in, and even then you WILL get injured if you're lucky. Ultimately yes though, Krav Maga is an aggressive mentality more than anything else. Krav Maga, like anything else, has adapted and uses the forward momentum and aggression to fuel the fundamentals of striking+grappling.
Avi Hyde My trainer always said this won't leave you unharmed, but you can't back down, you gotta rip the enemy apart. Also like you said our sparrings we're basically MMA but with some krav techniques like hitting the testicles etc. If you don't have a fighter mentality not even armor will save you.
I’ve been researching different forms of self défense to start taking lessons, and KM seems to me to be the all around best one (for the reasons you’ve outlined here). I’m likely not going to be fighting standing & grappling all of the time, nor only always on the ground. My buddy in Tel Aviv also recommended this to me given my limitations (I have mobility issues). I’ve got to learn the most practical form of self défense. When people see someone with a cane, they think “painkillers”, and I’ve been scouted out several times coming back from gigs at clubs in a raunchy part of town. Anyhow, I also expressed interest in Raw Combat International as well. The “group” in my city doesn’t have classes, just several friends who get together and will charge $70/hour per lesson!? My response to that is if you can afford that, you likely live in an area of the city least likely to ever have to use this form of self defence. I’ve mentioned my concerns to Luke Holloway, but he doesn’t give a shit. I am not interested in learning via DVD. Anyhow, I can’t think of a better form of self defence for my needs, and it seems that the people who shit on it are most likely not schooled in it or in order to prop up the form of self defence that they’re already involved in.
ThePesmergia A serious KM club teaches you boxing, as a basic and even towards advanced. I think its commonly overlooked that KM includes a variety of martial arts and fighting techniques. Difference is, its made to neutralize a threat quickly, not go 12 rounds in a ring counting point and following rules. Its as simple as I can put it
My Krav school was all about aggression, even when dealing in topics of self defense. It was counter the initial threat, then strike until they stopped being a threat.
I think that's actually the most important aspect of self defense. When I failed my maths homework, got little sleep and the bus is late, I think I would defend myself very effectively. But if I aced my homework and had a great meal, I'd just talk to the attacker politely.
@@MrCmon113 I agree. Most people don’t have that aggression in them, and that’s why crooks and bullies go after average folk because they’re easy marks for thievery
Knife fighting is extremely dangerous, even if one is an experienced fighter the best thing is to run, if you're in a situation that makes running impossible, in an alley for instance, the next best think is to pick something you can use as weapon like a pipe, a stick, etc. And I'm so glad you spoke the truth because so many martial art instructors and movies propagate this idea that a person with a knife attacks by doing a slow arch motion with the arm, while even a untrained fighter with 0 experience will not do that, not ever. Instead it's an extremely fast arm thrust, and in quick succession, I mean I have 0 experience and I can do that, it's what makes it nearly impossible to defend, let alone take the knife of the attacker. In fact, police officers are trained to shot the assailant if he has a knife and trespasses the minimum safe distance between them and the officer, because even at gun point, if the attacker suddenly runs forward and thrusts the knife, the officer will get stabbed before the attacker drops from the gun wounds.
I just had a similar experience with a fellow who came to my school who was also a Krav Maga student. He wanted to learn Pencak Silat from me, and he tried to learn, but as you said, he couldn't fight himself out of a paper bag. He was so full of his Krav that whenever he couldn't do the techniques we were learning, he'd trash our martial art system and say, "Well in Krav Maga we do wouldn't do that. We do this." And he was horrible. I asked him to show me a Jab-Cross combo and he couldn't even punch right. His body mechanics were terrible. He had no stance. Awful. But the worst part was, he thought he was better than everyone else, including myself, and didn't listen to any of my directions. Anyway, I had to let him go. He was awful to other students, to myself and he had no skills whatsoever. Then he emailed me saying that there must be a reason for why there's a lot of Krav Maga schools today compared to seven years ago, as if that meant that Krav Maga was a superior art that's why its successful. Wow. Talk about self-delusional. When you suck at fighting and you claim you're the best, and you're ignorant, that's pathetic.
Reality TV, influencers, all of this is very successful and yet it is only intellectual garbage. As long as there are idiots the scams will always work.
When I was in the military, they didn't teach much hand to hand combat there. Just some basic jabs and punches etc. Of course that was in 1999 when I entered, so our military didn't have proper h2h training anyway... still don't I think. But that mindset about attacking... that was something that was always present. Even when we went for a run (as a whole team), our company leader would make us sing all kinds of "we're the rangers, we go towards the enemy" and all that, and it was awesome for us, because it felt like we all were in the same situation. Our company belonged to this rapid response team, which trained to be pretty much first on the battlefield if one would ever land our soil. So naturally they were teaching us to get out there, not running away and be on defense all the time, because our company would be thrown directly at the enemy anyway. So I get what Krav Maga is about in that sense. To a soldier who's using some AK based rifle (refined version of AK47 actually...), there's not that much need on a modern battlefield to know all kinds of different fancy moves some Krav Maga instructors might be showing. When in battle against an enemy shooting at you, there is no h2h. And if there is, then you use your knife. And if your knife is lost, then you use your shovel (it has sharpened edge for that exact reason anyway). And if for some reason that fails, you use your empty rifle as a weapon to hit your enemy. OR ir that fails, you get your hands on whatever sharp thing that happens to be nearby... and only then, when all else fails, you go "proper" h2h with the enemy, but by that time you or him are either dead, or wounded, because someone shot you or the enemy... It's good to know how to fight someone in h2h, but to a soldier, that's just too rare to be taught in the military, other than to improve physical fitness and the "be the attacker!" mentality.
My whole thing with Krav, as a current practitioner, is that it definitely depends heavily on who's teaching it. My teacher always reminds the class the knife defense/disarms are not realistic and the likelihood of you pulling it off in a real situation is slim to none. He teaches sparring, grappling, and is absolutely legitimate, but my first time going to a krav gym it was a pile of absolute useless garbage. Much like the eastern martial art craze in the 80's, a lot of people teaching it have never fought, have never done anything practical, and are making money off of people who buy into the flashy stuff.
I have been to seven MT schools and 6 were utter garbage and I QUIT after 2 classes. So yes there are so many fake KRAV and MT Schools now that it like TKD. Only BJJ schools are always good. I never heard of a bad bJJ school. Some BJJ schools are more hardcore and competitive and others are more normal people
I have trained KM for 2 years now. And I am more scared of knife attacks than I was when I started. I'd rather take on a gun man on close distance. The instructors also point out you WILL get stabbed in a knife fight. Better take it in the arm. Or just hand over the cell phone and bill your insurance company.
I use to butcher 16 hogs a year. I can remove a hogs head with 2 strokes of my 14 inch long 2 inch wide blade . I could almost cut a man in half with 1 stroke. But I doubt most knives used in fights or that sharp . I would go from aluminum oxide to black Arkansas to a strop .
@@tappajaav I am just a hunter and butcher my own meat . But I do say I doubt most who use a knife as a weapon more than likely don't know how to sharpen a knife or take the time to do so . But anyone could drag a knife down your belly . The big difference is if a well sharpened knife is used , your guts will be on the floor .Look at the butchering videos on you tube .Put yourself as the animal being butchered terrifying
When I joined a school of real self defense (created by former policemen with a deep experience of the field) I was surprised they did not teach us about knives. One teacher told me "Krav maga is nice... in Israel. Here we are in France, with a different context and different laws. If someone comes to you in the street with a knife, it's to steal you, not to kill you. So we teach you to give him your wallet and keep silent. Handling a knife is only taught to advanced students who want to become teachers, because otherwise, you might believe you can do something and be tempted to react, but you will just be severely wounded, for sure. And we don't want to be responsible for that. We care about you safety". They are the only real self defense experts I had the change to work with. Everything was so different to what I had in mind. We learned the laws (they worked with an attorney) because self defense includes not going to jail for defending yourself, we learned to decode the processes of target evaluation and conflict escalation to disarm conflicts and avoid being in danger, how to rescue a wounded person, how to call the police and describe someone, how to deal with real life situations such as a man who beats his wife in public, your neighbors that are about to fight about the noise, someone that becomes crazy because you hit his car with yours, and so on. Many real life situations they learned from being coops. And clearly, self defense is not combat, it about creating an opening to escape and above all the rest : its about educating yourself to avoid dangerous situations. Teaching people to react once they are strangled to death is a non sense. There are always many things that can be done before facing this situation. Letting people believe it's not the case is really bad for them.
Oh man, in the place where I live you can hand over your wallet, your watch, your cellphone or your wedding ring but if it doesn't satisfy the criminals needs they'd stab you. This guys you describe seem like well intentioned guys but you know as much as they do that the law won't stop criminals from hurting you, so, if you don't learn how to defend yourself against a knife just because they think it might make you wreckless you will definitely miss that when you have to fight against an armed criminal looking for nothing but blood. A couple days ago I was watching a video called "most of the self defense disarm techniques are bs" or something like that. In the video, the guy said basically one thing "if you don't know about guns don't fucking touch them"... But... What would you do if somebody is triying to kidnap you? Would you fight back or would you remain silent while they take you away because you think it's a waste of time to try to fight back? In my country most of the kidnaps end up with the victim being murdered even if the money is delivered in time. A co worker got stabbed last year because he didn't have enough money in his wallet and his cellphone was old... That's the untold true behind the "in-most-cases/scenarios"-line. To me it's like carriying a spare tire in the trunk of your car: hopefully you'll never need it, but when you do, you'll be glad you have it there. And if you're smart enough you'll know when it's a good idea to fight and when to stay silent but that should be up to you, not them.
@gabo palacios obviously we don't live at all in the same environement. As I said in my country this is not how it is, and if you ask people aroud me "What would you do if somebody is triying to kidnap you?" people will think "what's wrong with this guy, nobody get's kidnaped here". The only people I know of who face frequent violence and knives issues are people working in law enforcement or security in nighclubs or similar. That's this kind of people that my teacher agreed to train to handle knives. But for most of us, we actually have no idea what these things are about, people tend to imagine it's like in the movie where the guy faces you with his knife and is going to make a straight obvious attack. And this conception is dangerous because that's what you prepare and train for. But if it happens to you in the street, it will be different and you are much likely to be killed altough the guy didn't want to! Actually I know someone who was once threatened by a guy with a knife in broad day to get his money: my father. As a veteran he used to be very found of knives, and he actually did stab people for real when he was in the army. So when he saw that guy with his knife, he though "oh well, you clearly don't have the intention to stab me". So he reacted and disarmed him. But I'm pretty sure that if he had seen in the eyes of the guy that he was ready to stab him if he disn't obey, he would have given his wallet without trying anything. When you become older, you care more about seeing again your children than being Chuck Norris. But yet again, that's how it is here, and if I was living in your environment I would definitiley think differently. However today I think a key element even more important than combat skill is to be connected to your aggressor, to feel his real motivation and intentions. That's a very specific training too, with a focus on the inner state and how you handle your emotions / fears. And it's very valuable in a daylife. Take care :)
in reality the reason they don't teach it to new students is because outside of place's like Indonesia and the Philippines, there really isn't that effective of knife defense training. hell an old neighbor of mine was an army ranger, the army rangers teach their personnel knife defense, one year after someone was going around mugging people with a knife he tought a course of knife defense for about 7 months. he straight up told us that unless you go to a school of martial arts that solely focus on knife and stick defense than you really are never going to get that good at defending against a knife, the only reason he decided to teach it to people in the neighborhood was because some of what he could teach was effective enough save lives.
I was just thinking the same while i was scrolling down these comments. I life in Finland and its VERY unlikely that you get attacked by guy with a knife (unless you are drug addict or professional drunk). If you really want to learn how to defend yourself, why waste your time to train against something that is very unlikely going to happen. Also real attack is very different from training and even that you have trained self-defense against knife attacks you are most likely getting stabbed. And as you said best self-defense is to learn how to avoid those kind of situations. I do kickboxing and i many people have tried to start fight with me (all of those times they were drunk) but i have never thrown a punch outside the ring. I've always ended the situation with talking and being calm even tho i know that i could've beat the shit out of those guys. I have never been attacked randomly which can also happen, but i guess my size is a big factor in that.
Hello, I see you mentioned France. I'm in Paris and am looking for a Krav Maga school where one does full length sparring (possibly with helmet and guard etc.). Could you please suggest one? Thank you in advance!
I was going to say the same thing. Or maybe a narrator or ring announcer. The sound of his voice makes me want to stop and listen to what he has to say.
I really hate it when someone uses the military as a reason why you should use a product, martial art or training method. I call it the military fallacy. Militarises have different priorities to civilians. Any time you hear this used as a selling point you should stop to ask WHY are they using this and do these reasons apply to you?
Jim Giant another thing is military uses hand to hand techniques as a last resort. First and foremost they want to use guns and knives in a life or death fight. A read from a Marine who said if you lose your guns and knives and have to resort to using your fists you screwed up a long time ago. Guys fighting for their lives in a war zone want to end the battle as quickly as possible so a bullet or shank is the best way to do so, rather than setting up a four piece striking combo or a triangle choke.
Militaries and police forces, security agencies et cetera employ bullshido all the time in training. Thankfully, not so much in the most recent of years.
@Matthew Van Helden Completely agree but the point is even if they used a system which was perfect for them it wouldn't necessarily be a wise choice for someone outside the military.
When I was a teen and taking MA training, we asked about knives. My instructor said if at all possible, walk or RUN away from a knife fight. I thought that was weird at the time and kind of a let down, but he was 100% correct. There was a famous MA 'master'(supposedly, world famous) who got in a knife fight with a sailor and he was sliced up almost to his death...the 'master'.
Excellent. I've been training and fighting for 30 years. I was a bouncer for 15 years, along with much else. I've been a krav instructor for 10. I have a lot of respect for you and your perspective. Krav Maga is an excellent self defense system. Like all though, there are bad practitioner's and bad instructors. McDojo's are nothing new. I should note, there is major differences in various types of KM as well. An evolved organization takes the experience and evolves the system through failure. KM, like anything, must be practiced under extreme conditions. For instance, knife training in our school consists of shock knives and full contact gear, with full resistance. Much of it is done outdoors. Many of the km techniques people commonly see, such as wrapping up with all out knees, don't work. (rarely is it pulled off) For that matter, most any knife defense from any form doesn't work. Experience is the greatest teacher. People worry too much about if a system is legit. It's not the system, it's the teacher, it's the experience. All martial arts have something to offer. Not all teachers do.
I remember the training we received in the Marines.Three ways nife fights end. 1. You die he is wounded. 2. He dies and you are wounded. 3. You both die. Vietnam veteran's advice. Use your gun. Don't get in knife fights. If you do. Sacrifice your arm to get in killing strikes and pray he is not trained.
Wannabe badass speak. There is plenty of knife attacks in which no one was wounded. Exaggerations are not instructive. You're not speaking to toddlers. Also you don't have a rifle in a self defense situation.
That is unlikely. I've read a study that showed the mortality rate for various types of weapons soldiers get injuries from on the battlefield. For knives it is a mere 1% mortality rate. No other weapon consider in the study had a single digit mortality rate
@@MrCmon113 in any forum discussing knife based violence you will get huge numbers of these exaggerations. There are a few quotes that always seam to get spouted out even if they are not relevant.
I love how people in every single type of activity get judged based on their abilities at defeating paper bags (or wet paper bags for Krav Maga). I knew a computer programmer once who could not write [code] herself out of a paper bag!
Great - and informative - vid, Ramses (just kidding - you remind me of the dude who played "The Mummy" 😜). Krav Maga is just another sad example of how something pure was commoditized by greedy people. Smh
With all the respect, at the end of his life Imi Lichtenfeld the founder of Krav Maga handed out master diplomas and certifications for founding a school for almost everyone of his master students. There was some idiots among them, and that is why it is watered down a lot. In 2010 Imi's elder student Eyal Yanilov founded Krav Maga Global to purge those charlatans you are talking about and to maintain a higher level system and association to educate Krav Maga. So...Yes, a really lot depends on the instructor but at KMG the usual instructor requirements are very high and the mentioned idiots will hopefully fade away in time... In my gym there is a lot of sparring and wrestling and we always try to stick to reality as much as we can. For example we also keep in mind that there is no magic technique against a knife. There are three solutions in order: 1. Try to escape from the situation. 2. Keep distance, use objects if you have to fight. 3. Then comes the technique if you have to fight and you don't have any other opportunity, but keep in mind that you will hurt. But a cut on your forearm is way more better than a cut at your throat. So it is about survival. 4. (optional) It is not a must to disarm the attacker. Kick or punch him in some vital ponts, buy some time for yourself and then escape.
Krav Maga is totally about the skill. I don't know what stupid instructor you have that you say that, but if you train with a good instructor and you are serious about your training you will be the best fighter ever. Belive me, if you'd come to train in Israel you would know how much Krav Maga is about skill. So don't say some stupid stuff
Well there's a couple things to remember about the military and hand-to-hand. The first of which is that the military has only a finite amount of training time. Hand to hand combat situations aren't particularly common, they do happen, I was unable to find out how many hand to hand kills there were in Afghaniland, but there were at least five firsthand accounts, so it does happen, but it's exceedingly rare. In the Marines, I had about 8-16 hours of hand to hand training if you added up all of my sessions that I had to do in boot camp. And as the Israeli instructor said, most of that had more to do with an aggressive mind-set which is what they try to use hand-to-hand training to get you to, because that can help win a fight against a unskilled or nervous opponent. Which brings me to my second point, in the military situations where you are likely to be fighting a trained professional fighter are rare. Even more rare with our current kind of insurgency warfare stuff. What you are likely to encounter is an armed amateur. So aggressiveness is a really good quality to have in that situation, and time spent training to fight against a serious professional fighter is probably not the best use of training time. Because that's not a super likely situation, and even if it happens, odds are that as a soldier (or Marine, in my case), you'd lose. Because you wouldn't have the amount of hours of training and sparring that you'd need to beat that professional fighter, unless you were also doing that level of training and sparring on your own time, in which case, what you would have learned would be well above what the military could teach you in the few hundred hours of martial arts training you might accumulate over your career. And then there's my third point, if you are in a situation where you are in hand-to-hand combat, shit has hit the fan. You are basically really screwed, because that means you have no ammunition, you have no extraction, you can't call for fire, you can't call for any kind of help. Basically you are most likely not going to survive that, because it is unlikely that both sides will simultaneously be in that position and if they are then it's kind of a crap shoot anyways. So Krav Maga does work for what it's intended to do, which is teach awareness, aggressiveness, a few basic fundamentals and most importantly to be broken down such that it can be taught in a very short period of time in a way that pretty much everybody can grasp it.
even special operations units do not train that much in hand to hand combat, at most someone like a navy seal will have at most about 60 hours of total training in hand to hand over the course of all seal training. anyone who is particularly great in hand to hand combat in the military are great solely because they learnt on their own time
From what I’ve seen most martial arts are effective. The only thing that matters is the student and the teacher. Even the likes of Kung fu can be effective if used effectively, and taught well. The best art is the one that comes the most naturally to the person.
I disagree. Obviously the martial art is not everything and the fighter is critical. But there are real reasons why you should choose KM instead of Kung Fu if you pretend to learn how to defend yourself, reasons that are completely independent from the fighter.
Master Dewey you are a breath of fresh air. And u are so correct my friend thank u for being on the road to open peoples eyes u are truly a wise wise man. And thank u
I trained a really long time in Tae Kwon Do, and we're talking years. I'd get there after school and leave after the classes ended. Never got that black belt. Not because I wasn't good enough, but because I couldn't pony up 400 bucks for the black test (and an additional charge for the belt). It was trash. I was really into martial arts and I think I had a knack for it, buuuut money was an issue. And it sucks that happened.
I have been going to a Krav Maga school here in Baton Rouge for 2.5 years . I did a couple trial classes at first and one of the things that sold me was the aggressive mindset and the sparring that they do . Having been in a lot of fights over the years helped me to see that they were wanting to show folks how to defend themselves . 2 of the instructors are local Swat dudes / patrol . A couple guys also do a lot of BJJ . I've also seen a lot of vids of KM on line and have thought WTF are they doing ? I recommend KM to folks but tell them to check out the school a lot before joining up . Good vid man , earned a sub from me
It's funny because I joined a KM school that has no sparring. There I met a couple of folks that came from the KM school that does have true sparring (the one I considered at first). One day I was chating with them and they told me that that school is rough but they don't feel like they learned any technique at all, only how to punch defenseless people and that's why they left. I frecuently train with one of them and my teacher is always correcting him because he punches with his finger joints pointing at the sides instead of pointing down, and I can't help but wonder: how the hell did his prior teacher missed that and the fact that he's punching with only his arm strenght instead of his full body?!
Research is key as you found out . Some schools that don't have sparring may teach great technique but you're never really testing that . Some may have lots of sparring but very little teaching .
Really like how you put this across without seeming arrogant. I qualified as A Krav Maga instructor and I agree with everything you said. I left the federation because it is not what it is marketed as and I couldn't be a part of the bull. I am sure there are some great Krav Maga instructors out there who can fight and defend.. I just haven't met one. I have subscribed. Good stuff
I studied TKD, Kenpo, Krav, and FMA, in that order. Each one was perfect for my life stage, at that time. A few years, give or take, seeing what each art had to offer. Had some good teachers. Ran with tough kids. Had a chip on my shoulder. I can fight hard, because of many reasons. I don't think it is fair to ask that of everyone. The students need to ask the right questions, of themselves and their instructors, or they will be spoon-fed garbage.
50% of the time I was concentrating on the things you're saying, 50% I was concentrating on your fine body, so I watched this twice to get 100% on both sides. *_*
"Oh, my five year old is a black belt too!" I know the feeling. I'm a submission wrestler, and a very amateur one at that. I do many facepalms when I tell others about my favorite hobby, then get the inevitable comments about hitting people with chairs, or knocking someone out in a barroom brawl. Right on when you say, "It's not the same thing!"
I'm a Krav Practitioner and I totally know where this stems from. A lot of Krav students think that because the art is so effective it makes them indestructible, I see this in my class, and many other martial arts as well. Unfortunately, I think it is the age-old "it's not the style, its the fighter" argument. In my class, I will say that my teacher is the highest-ranked Krav Practioner in Canada, and lives breathes and bleeds the art. He has a true passion for it, and always teaches us the most important safety skills and techniques. His class severely differs IMO because he teaches us a discipline of knowing to analyze the fight, and end it fast. Almost every technique we learn is blended with how-to properly stay safe in those situations, and ensure you're not walking in with a losing mentality. He often teaches us that walking away is always the safest. The most prime example I can think of is when we practised knife and handgun defence and were told to count how many times we got stabbed and/or shot. Really eye-opening, and he made sure to tell us that you never want to be in the situation where you would need to defend from these weapons, but its good to learn it some you at least know what you can do if in those scenarios. I def agree that a lot of practitioners and teachers are garbage and really make the art look laughable, but to say the entire art itself is flawed can be an unfair argument.
I was friends with a kid from Israel when I was in junior high. His dad learned krav Maga in the military. When I found that out I tried to get him to teach me. He refused explaining that krav Maga is a military art not a martial art. It's designed around fighting with blades and firearms.
I'm 70 years old, bad left knee, bad left shoulder, my reflexes are not what they were 50 years ago. I have practiced judo (really a sport) TaeKwonDo, one belt away from black belt 40 years ago under the Korean system and I have boxed. What I like about Krav Maga is it's practical application. Defuse the situation and get away if you can but fight like hell if you can't get away. Amazing how hard it is to fight like hell for 60 seconds even if you are in average shape. Every martial art I have studied has some fanciful aspects, TKD being one of them. Today TKD American style is like dance class in pajamas. If you hang around 3 years, learn the Katas *{a Japanese word, not Korean) you might be granted a black belt. Sure you will be able to kick and punch and your flexibility will be improved. The fact of the matter is that at that moment in time when you have to react, what will you do?
I really resonated with your statement on Tae-Kwon-Do. I was a practitioner of TKD for 8 years under a very serious master and achieved my black belt in the process. Thanks to my black belt and demonstrated skill, I was eligible to be an instructor and took the opportunity. During my time as an instructor, however, reality crept up on me. I noticed how lax the school was in general, from patterns to kicking. Regardless of a students skill, belts were awarded regularly. A student’s movements could be extremely poor for their belt level yet, for being able to merely resemble the proper techniques in a mediocre fashion, they were allowed to advance. This deeply disturbed me, I didn’t believe these kids earned their belts in the slightest. So I took matters into my own hands and tried to implement tougher training for the kids to expand much further in their development. This initiative backfired. I ended up getting scolded by the school’s grandmaster for being too tough on the students. I hadn’t done anything unreasonable/absurd. I simply increased the duration/intensity of exercises that were done previously and became stricter on what actually passed as good technique. My master, who also worked at the school, told me about how he shared similar stipulations with the policies. Coming into the school, he was a honed fighter who had trained under many martial arts. The reason he came back to TKD was that it was the first martial arts he had practiced which had him grow a soft spot for it. I was one of his first students and he held nothing back when it came to my training. However, as the years progressed and the school gained popularity, he was taught to refrain from such strict training to lower the difficulty level. It was at this moment I came to realize that the TKD of my school was no longer a martial art but a business. It was appalling to me. Since then I have strayed to other fighting practices such as boxing but the TKD I first learned still holds a place in my heart. It definitely taught me many essential aspects that I integrated into my current fighting style but I strive to fill the many gaps in its teachings with other martial arts in order to become a well rounded fighter like my master. Taking all of this into account, it irks me whenever I see a young kid with a belt belt as I personally know just how dishonest that rank is.
Not speaking against Krav Maga,I have no experience in it at all, but I spent about 5 years working my tail off in a very popular Martial Art system to get my Black belt, and i mean every single day. And i still LOVE it . But then came along somebody that showed me how flawed it was in about 2 hours and i had to make a decision right there. Do i stay and allow myself to fool myself and just buy into what i had learned, or just start over? In the end i walked away and started over. And then i started over again. And now, i am starting over again a 3rd time. If you want to be a true Martial Artist you have to be able to take everything you know and be able to throw it away in search of the truth in the blink of an eye or your ego will get you "killed". It either works, or it doesn't work. Like when I asked my electrician friend "How can i be sure I wired things in right?" he said " If the light comes on, it's right. If the house burns down, it's wrong"
Absolutely true. I have rolled with (in a controlled environment) some pretty advanced BJJ guys and they constantly left me openings where I could use Krav to do serious damage. I'm talking about tearing out ears, twisting necks, elbows to the groin and more. They were so locked into there sport mentality that they didn't realize how vulnerable they were in many circumstances. I'm not shitting on BJJ it's a great tool to have in the arsenal but all systems have there weak spots. I cross train Krav + Muay Thai and find it effective.
Haven't seen anyone mention that Krav Maga was designed to be done while wearing a soldier's full kit. That's steel or ceramic plates backed by a Kevlar vest, a helmet, boots, a couple hundred rounds of ammunition, water, rifle, maybe a sidearm, and possibly a backpack or rucksack. It's not really comparable to Muay Thai or BJJ, as it was never intended to be applied in the same situations. If you don't expect to be fighting while wearing 60+ pounds of bulky cumbersome equipment, Krav Maga probably isn't for you.
Nobody did, because it is not true, Krav Maga doesnt even have origins in Israel, it was developed in Czechoslovakian jewish community as mean of... SELF DEFENSE. Yeah, and then it was adopted by Israel, after the WW2 has ended. Military version might require advanced military training, but this is just one version, not original Krav Maga.
@@agregau Everything originated from somewhere. Ancient Greeks had Pankration and that was the BC era. And covered almost all types of fighting aspects so suck a nut on what originates from what. Karate took its roots from Kung Fu. But you don't see people crying about it.
Aaaaand if you’re not okay with the likelihood of getting killed anyway, then again it’s probably not for you. Special forces in all countries do some cool stuff, but somehow people think what they do must be better for self-defense. It’s better for killing people, but protecting yourself is only secondary in those situations. Doing damage to the enemy is the number one priority.
Exactly right. It is 100% ment for self defence and the defence of your loved ones with as goal to get out as fast and unharmed as possible. It is 0% ringsport and never ment for the style of fighters you meet in the ring. Those people are rarely agressors on the street. Krav Maga is ment against the average "to lazy to work so he want to take your phone" kind op people.
Talent Dance TV pretty much it. We KM goers get tired quickly in the ring. Fighting a boxer who has years of experience is stupid. In KM we train for the most probable situations. If you find yourself in troubles with a trained mma you must seek for the best moment to attack.... Or run like hell.
Talent Dance TV totally right. Krav practitioner here. Is not meant for more than 10 seconds fight. If you don't solve the problem in that period of time you are screwed.
One of the episodes of "Fight Quest" was on Krav Maga, and I remember the final challenge for one of the fighters was a series of one-on-ones. My clearest memory is the instructors pushing the fighter forward over and over and repeating, "Attack! Attack!" non-stop. The philosophy on full display.
One of my masters once told me this: If you fight an untrained knifefighter you need 10 years of practice to survive (not to go unharmed) If he has 1 day of practice you need 10 more years for the same result. If he had 3 days you wound get old enough to get enough training. It may be a bit of a exaggeration but for me it´s a good picture to show how much respect you should have when fighting an opponend with a knife, no matter how much training either of you have had.
@@mrx2586 Where im from its much higher so maybe you can understand why I say its only a bit of exaggeration. But in the end if you are on the receving end of a knife thrust you dont care for statistics anyway :-)
I think the problem with Krav is that it's a legit military combat system - not a martial art - so in order to make it compatible with modern competitive martial arts, sports fighting, and a consumer market - they have to remove or water down what makes Krav effective. Military combat is focused on ending a confrontation quickly and brutally - if not lethally. Sports fighting is focused on fighter safety and prolonged bouts. The two don't really gel very well - at least not yet
No one tries to make Krav Maga into a combat sport. If they did, they would spar more, and spar more effectively, and be a lot better at it. As is, most of them just sit around and talk about how deadly their system is even though none of them have ever actually done any of those deadly things before and probably never will.
@@RamseyDewey With all due respect, real military combat arts are designed to maim and if possible, kill...there is no *sport* involved..and if truth be told, even possible. Until one has actually taken lives, the magnitude of the distinction is not really comprehensible. In ONE of my *training* classes a fellow *student* accidentally killed his best friend-injuring him in such a way that he bled out internally in only a few seconds. The survivor was so distraught he withdrew from the program and despite some months of psych attempts at rehabilitation, he was honorably discharged and I later learned he had taken his own life.
@@seeratlasdtyria4584 True. Some arts you will NEVER be able to effectively train or spar with, because how do you train someone to *kill* or *main?* There is no moment of truth in sport combat.
@@RamseyDewey Even most soldiers never actually kill anyone. Krav Maga is not really a sport. I mean it is like saying that going at shooting range is pointless because you just stand and talk and never test your skill against other people. But you cannot compare training with real guns to airsoft really. Knowing both has a huge overlap of usefulness, but shooting range is not useless.
Best knife defense practitioner I know: Usain Bolt.
odinga tinga You're a fool.
@@tha1sorrow if you spray him doesnt that incapacitate him already?
He won his last fight by 100 metres.
@@neohapkido Wrong again. The best defense is the one you're comfortable with.
Best knife defence - run, or be lucky and hope your attacker isn’t trained.
From the words of a true Krav Maga expert, while teaching knife defense: "You WILL get cut with the knife."
100%
That's what we learnt in Filipino Martial Arts as well. Knife fighting is a large part of Kali and those guys will be the first to tell you that if you're in a knife fight you absolutely will get carved up.
One day our instructor made us do knife defense techniques with Sharpies.
Lesson: you’re going to get cut no matter what. You’re just trying not to die.
That's what my father taught me when he was in the military
First thing my instructor said when we started with the knifes: You WILL get cut.
Moral of the story is don't bring a knife to a shirt fight.
good one :D Didnt know that the tshirt method really works. really thought it was a joke at the beginning.
I learned the shirt method at my dojo. I think it was a fellow instructor that suggested it as an option. In turn I taught my students.
Can i bring my pants to a shirt fight?
LOL :D
jpsholland sure
I just hope he is wearing pants.
Mwahahahaha!!!
why is that impdortant? #freethedingdong xD
I hope he isn't
don't you have something more important in life to hope for? ))
Jonathan Carreño can`t be unseen now thx
My Krav Maga teacher always said that the best defence against a knife is to give the guy your wallet, your phone and then piss off and stop walking through shitty neighborhoods.
A man of infinite wisdom he was.
Why are you paying to learn from this guy?
@@realamericannegro977 So he can learn to effectively get mugged. Krav Ma-mugged.
@@ranfan1820 lol. I once had teacher at the same dojo tell me "the best way to win a fight is not to be there." Kyokushin teachers btw. Garbage style. I left after 6 months. They were the only teachers to tell me something that dumb.
@@realamericannegro977 I mean, hey if somebody with a big ass knife confronts you, giving him your things is the safer route instead of trying to fight him and potentially getting stabbed into oblivion. Generally, I'd only try real defense if there was a way to get help from other people around like screaming
@@realamericannegro977 cause he is right, is very stupid to fight over material things when your life is in danger sure you can do it if you want but is not recommendable. the teacher will obviously teach you the techniques to deal with it but if you can run then you should, the techniques are used as a last resource. And teachers say "the best way to win a fight is not to be there." because there are a lot of idiots that are picking or getting in unnecessary fights just becuse they learned some martial arts
"When facing someone with a knife, RUN. If you can't run, FLY."-Bruce Lee
@Hatem Mrabet He kept that shit REAL. Lol!!!
Where did Bruce say that?
Ron Wells it’s in one of his early Kung fu books
@@samuelanderson9416 crescent kick saved my life from getting cut.
Or remain calm and Wing Chun! Most people who use a knife are untrained, but I sometimes carry a knife, openly so, if it comes out in actual use(never has) it goes to spots we learn in Wing Chun. But last weekend one guy I guess saw mine, and said if you stabbed me I will push you down. I said no that would be funny. And said I do not stab people so no worries. It is funny because I can not in anyway conceive how he would be able to after a few seconds. If he did push me, he would then claps to the ground as he would rise his blood pressure after receiving a possible fatal blow. His best bet at that point would be to hold the wound tight and get immediate medical attention. I seen a few stabbing in my life, and both times the stab was not fatal, but into the gut and one into the arm or shoulder.
I will not get into it, but that is not where my blade would likely go. I will likely never need to pull it out in any real situations where it gets used. Same day just earlier, I see a guy go into a bag for a weapon after riding past him, then from a safe distance I pull mine out, and even showed him, not how I would be using it, rather a just a back off “I do Wing Chun” warning, and you best think about that boy! That guy and his buddy leave the spot, as I rode away and circled back to see if they did five mins later. But I was 20 feet or more away when I drew mine out the first time on a bike and warned him to leave the area as I was calling the cops. So I read the situation, is that person an ass clown thieve or some nut ball killer. I had away to slip away fast in that case too. If trapped I stand my ground and Wing Chun. Where I live stabbing are as common as daylight or as common as shooting in America. In an actual situation the knife stays hidden away, and never pulled out in a manner that is is seen be the attacker, used effectively only onto points to disarm them in our systems style, or 100% fatal-no middle ground stabs of anger into belly or shoulders. Calm precise movements, same way we deal with an attack. Trap the wrist or elbow, and fight the person not the weapon. But wither way run or ride away fast and get to a safe spot is always best and call out fire, help or rape.
Carry pepper spray if legal or just do it away and an emergence whistle and blow it hard and get away. And remember stay calm use or darting fingers to eyes or thumb nails, and keep moving. A moving target is hard to stab or hit. Do not trap yourself, wave down a car, be seen get into lit spot. Alway keep moving towards the safest spot. Always keep fighting if it gets to that point. And shoulder blades are shields, our hands are shield, feet if on back are shields, and kick, punch gouge eyes, and scream. More attention to scene, less likely they stab you, and flee. Also keys are weapons, and toss away a bag, wallet, bike, purse or cash, then run toward safest well lit place. Even middle of street! Wave down a car! Welcome to Winnipeg son home of the stabbyest people in Canada!
"You're not attacking the right way" is the worst attitude anyone can have in martial arts.
"Grab my arm. The other arm. MY other arm."
@@Agamemnon-w9x "That's not how I practice it !"
😂😂😂 I've met people like this 😂😂😂 think fights are going to be predictable based off their own imagination. Reality bites folks like this hard.
For all the fun that is being poked at them, there is something you may be overlooking here. I will try to analogize what I mean: if a boxing trainer is trying to show you how to do a shoulder roll against a cross but you insist on leg-kicking him, you are not 'attacking in the right way' either, but that does not mean that the shoulder roll is 100% bullshit. It works great against something, given some premises. Or if a BJJ person is trying to show you a sweep against the mount, but you do not enter the mount. For whatever the Krav Maga, aikido or whatever the supposed experts are doing, there may be a degree of specificity that is going unexplained by them or unheard by you. Empathy towards them as well is something you do for yourself, because otherwise you are going to lock yourself out of insight. And most likely you will never realize you did.
Agreed. If they attack and hit you, they attacked the right way.
You kind of look like Saitama when he gets all serious.
nice
🤜
Lol!
when he's about to take the hero exam
Tien shinhan without the 3rd eye
In other words, most Krav Maga trainers are like CrossFit instructors. Got it.
@Full Moon I believe there was a reference to there being a lot of bad Krav Maga instructors. That's one of the most popular reasons given by CF defenders whenever it's pointed out how CFers tend to use garbage form or do unnecessarily risky movements: "They must have one of the bad coaches."
It's kind of the, "The reason socialism has never worked is because true socialism has never been tried" argument for fitness folks. :)
Haha, good one.
But CrossFit is not martial arts no ? I don't even know what it is exactly lol
@@radeczech15 crossfit is about doing bullshit without form nor technique, just manage it to do it no matter how bad you are doing it which give you not only mediocre results but also endangers your health by getting hurt
You need to find a proper trainer like in anything. Taekwondo is horseshit as well as BJJ Muay Thai, Boxing, Kung Fu, etc if taught by the wrong instructor
First rule of any self-defense is avoid the fight.
Wisdom
The best way to win a fight is to not get into one.
innerpowerup best way to not lose*
This is why most martial arts training in amurica is just pissing your hard earned $ away. Avoiding the fight is your training....when the aggressor or aggressor's want to hurt you. Apparently you missed the whole point of this vid. you own a dojo or send your 3yr old to one? p.s it's not a day car center!
That is true. If you are a martial artist you do not go around bragging how much of a badass you are. It will only attract more assholes who want to pick a fight with you and hurt you. Its not just about worrying that YOU will get hurt. Actually, you likely will get into more trouble if you hurt someone else and overreact.
Think about this. Its like owning a gun. A responsible gun owner should keep his firearm in a safe place. You never ever use it out of anger, or retaliation. You only fire it at someone when there is absolutely no other way to defend yourself or someone you care. If you use it improperly, you will end up having serious legal problems later on. Same thing happens when you are training and do not become aware of your own strength. You start becoming reckless. If you do not get hurt, you will end up hurting someone so bad you go to Jail for it, and think of the trouble you will end up having.
Been doing martial arts not because I am a van damme wannabe. Its a way for me to trim a bit of the love handle and live a disciplined lifestyle. PLus not all forms of martial arts are meant for combat. I have learned to appreciate the art of it,
Man you're so cool. I bet a dragon somewhere has a tattoo of you.
Lol...this is a good variation of a Chuck Norris joke.
Thanks.
😉😉😉
@@eyeswideopen2536 tsek.
@@gaurdian1560 ???
I served in the IDF
Krav Maga (literally contact combat) is taught in several levels.
1. In basic training they generally teach how not to freeze in combat. They do so by aggression exercises and simulation mostly to get you acquainted with the rush of dopamine and getting used to reacting in that situation.
2. Later on in advanced training they teach several basic yet useful technics for self defense using the riffle as a striking weapon.
3. Soldiers who go on to become officers and or serve in elite unites learn more advance technics which are comparable to MMA though with a bit more emphasis on real life situations. This training is highly effective.
Not all instructors who teach 1. are actually trained in 3. and that is why in the Israeli army the Krav Maga instructors from basic training get often laughed at by soldiers. I suppose ppl who try "selling" Krav Maga in the US are actually knowledgable only about 1. and use 3. as a selling point.
I've seen some IDF training and the instructor was female. She was ruthless. Went for the eyes, throat, balls. She showed fighting against a group and to stay on your feet and move away from the attackers. I was pretty impressed with her. She embodied 'kill or be killed.'
I've seen some krav maga demos on the net from israel military and looks all staged like some other matial arts like hapkido. Doing fancy things and flipping around, which would not likely work out that way in a real situation.
it will never hold up to any of Bruce's Lee's methods
Even if it has potential it's irrelevant because even the best Krav Maga instructors have at most 60 hours of actual training
I practice Glock-fu. It is the best way to beat a person with a knife.
Well having a gun is a great thing but sometimes self defence doesnt come down to just shoot the son of a bitch there simply are situations where a gun is not practical nor appropriate
@@joelancon7231 r/wooooosh
Tahallon these reddit woosh comments are getting a bit fucking boring. Is no one original in the world anymore, just a bunch of parroting sheep? I remember when you used to go 30 miles down the road and it was like walking into another country, they'd have different words and expressions for everything, now the whole world is an unimaginative homogenous shit pit.
Jason Stagg I've found a big stick, baseball bat, cricket bat, bar stool, chair, anything that can be used as a ranged weapon is pretty effective at keeping them at bay. Shit, I've even seen a wheely bin being used.
@@StoutProper lol cool life story bro, just share it randomly to some comment-thread under the image of being triggered (still not a good image cus you wrote a paragraph at someone just typing woosh)
Here have a few more: R/WWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH
A krav maga expert taught me how to be a krav maga expert in 2 minutes.
He gathered up a sack of groceries, and said "attack me" so I did. He threw the groceries at me and kicked me in the balls. While I was lying on the ground he said " Now your a krav maga expert too."
Hasu Kumori .....well,....he’s not wrong
Sound's about right
Hasu Kumori exactly
@@AZTigerMMA Well he's not wong
Hasu Kumori
I mean half the sport is kicking or punching someone in the balls.
Grab my wrist; my other wrist; with your other hand....... ok now everyone watch this!
Lmao
Ir like king of the hill
Grab one hand on my elbow and the other on my wrist, but make sure you grab my wrist or else it wont work
In my Krav Maga class with regards to knife fighting my trainer always taught us to get out as fast as possible. He said you will always get hurt in a knife fight and we practiced basically protecting our vital organs and getting out of the situation as fast as possible, and he taught us to keep calm under intense stress by constantly drilling it into us until it was second nature.
I completely understand what you're saying though, I'm glad I went to such a good guy honestly. It changed my life.
same as mine
When confronted with a knife, if running is not a valid option you are just going to have to accept that you are going to get cut/stabbed so take measures to make sure the injury won't kill you.
I've seen a few of your videos today. You are real, you are legit, much respect to you. I will mention your channel on mine because you deserve many more subs because you keep it real and that's a rare trait. Subbed
Ayyyy it's the Metatron!
Cause metatron is stand up guy.
Metatron Oh hello , you are here too ?, well were in this situation XD
i'm not sure if being real is really that rare, espeacially in martial arts. from what i can see, optimism is just seen as being phony
Sup metatron! I'm also subscribed to your channel! I really like your videos.
I don’t often subscribe to stuff like this, but your honesty and grounded nature are refreshing .
Much appreciated.
So glad to hear someone say how dangerous a knife is.
Instructor: "Wait, it didn't work for me because you didn't move like the attacker in the diagram. Now attack me again like the guy in the picture."
The whole key is ,
you gotta keep ur arm straight!
Need a parody movie to show attackers pulling out a wiki-how article on how to properly attack.
@Cracker Dan q
That would probably work to diffuse a situation...or at least confuse them enough to make them think about what it is they're really doing..."Excuse me, I was watching this self-defense video on youtube, and the attacker came at me like this. Do you think when you go to stab me, you can come at me like this? Oh and go slowly, I've never practiced with anyone"
The reaction you'd get would be one of, "What the fuck did you say? Nevermind, just give me your wallet and fuck off, will you."
I was in a knife fight once in my life. I had my book bag between me and him, I knocked the knife out of his hand with it and turned and ran like hell. Scared the shit out of me. It happened so fast at the time I did not even recognize the knife at the time, I just heard the clatter as I knocked it out of his hand. More my luck than anything else. A back pack or briefcase could be used as a shield, but don't rely on it.
*Getting mugged in an ally at knife point*
"Ha! I know Krav Maga! You're going down!"
*Stabbed in the side*
"Hang on! I want a re-do! I wasn't ready"
*37 stab wounds later...*
"....YOU'RE NOT DOING IT RRRIIIIIIIIiiiigggggggghhhhhhttttt....."
VashWolfwood1 😂😂
It is like a MMA fighter complaining he was kicked in the balls in the street fight.
@@NetAndyCz I know one profesional fighter who got beaten like shit at the club. It was not in the ring mood.
By the 37th stab wound, i'd be surprised if the person is still able to say that.
It's really interesting to see somebody who is not a Krav Maga practitioner actually know about the struggle of being mistaken and/or having your practice's reputation tarnished by fakes and charlatans. I'd like to shed some insights on that and some of the other topics you mentioned including the military/civilian KM differences. Also I don't mean to virtue signal I'll just say it to give context and hopefully credibility to what I'm about to say: I have trained 7 years under both a direct disciple of Imi Lichtenfeld (KM's creator) and an ex-Israeli military elite division KM instructor and I do not proclaim to be anywhere near a master on it, however I do know a lot about Krav Maga and hopefully this will inform you or others about it.
Firstly, KM was developed initially as a self-defense technique by Imi Lichtenfeld to defend against the fascist aggressions him and his jewish community faced during in Hungary on the onset of WW2, he developed the techniques by refining many techniques from several martial arts he knew by distilling them to the most "straight to the point" versions. It was only after he fled to what would later become Israel that he started teaching it to the military as a military focused technique. It was only way later in his life, at the 80s decade that he decided to start teaching it to the general populace. On his deathbed, Imi decided not to name a "successor" to the title of KM grand-master and instead assigned his 13 most talented pupils to disseminate KM all over the globe, as his lifelong dream was that if everybody knew how to defend themselves, nobody would have to. Among those 13 was Kobi Lichtenstein, the youngest, who started training KM at the tender age of 4 and who was the only one who left Israel and decided to come over to Brazil to teach here (and is the person I mentioned on the first paragraph).
He and some of the other 13 decided to keep KM true to the teachings of Imi, refusing to make additions or changes to it, whereas others tried to add their own changes and developments to it. Some changed it into a more competition focused MMA-style version, others incorporated more diverse martial arts techniques to it, some invented their own new moves. So from this onset already, KM lost some of it's identity except for the disciples who chose to remain completely faithful to the initial form of KM (Kobi being one of them). That is one part of why you can look at the techniques of different KM practitioners and notice such great disparities between them.
The second factor to that would be that given the success of Israeli military, KM became notorious worldwide, to the point where the a very large amount of military and law enforcement forces around the globe chose to adopt it as their CQC engagement techniques (although there are of course numerous notorious exceptions to this, the US being the most obvious one). So, depending on the country, either KM masters would teach law enforcement officers in short crash courses or many would fly to Israel to learn a thing or two about KM over a certain timespan and then teach their officers some techniques back at home. Many states would then, in order to save taxpayer money, assign their own officers to teach new ones, instead of paying for new crash courses every time. Many of these officers, or even their own students would later on proceed to open their own "Krav Maga" courses, which were, of course nothing like the proper Krav Maga, as it was being taught by men who not only took an incredibly short crash course on it, but also a crash course focused for law enforcement/military action, which is significantly different from what is taught to the general populace, mainly due to soldiers/military personnel having much different responsibilities, limitations and tools available.
Since KM does not hold any competitions or an internationally unified association with uniform classification system to which every practitioner must belong to and each of the 13 disciples decided to start their own association, with no one being hierarchically superior to the other, it is extremely hard to ascertain any individual's qualifications when they claim to be a Krav Maga master, making it extremely easy for quacks and charlatans to proclaim that they're a master and due to it's notoriety many gullible people go to it, learn some completely unrelated nonsense and then go around spreading false rumors about it and tarnishing it's reputation.
I'm certain the person claiming to be a KM instructor who gave you the knife combat "lesson" was one such individual, as from what you told in the video, that did not resemble at all how we disarm knives (mainly because in traditional KM we don't even focus on the disarming part, we focus on neutralizing the threat, first, disarming is literally the last thing we do after the aggressor is already under control).
As for the military/civillian differences, you are partially correct. The basic recruits were only taught aggression and war-related moves, like defending yourself using your rifle, or disarming firearms but they didn't actually get to learn to fight properly. In elite units, or for soldiers actually pursuing a military career they would offer more comprehensive training (albeit still focused on war, obviously). However, this does not mean that the traditional KM taught to civilians is a direct copy of what is taught to military troops. For one, military personnel don't have to worry about excessive use of force in retaliation, whereas civilians do and doubly so if they are police officers who have even stricter guidelines to prevent police brutality. The list of differences is enormous, but were I to even try and list all of them, then that'd make this already wall of text comment seem like a tweet.
I'd just like to end by saying that despite KM's reputation of being all about vicious brutality with eye gouges and groin strikes (and even bites, yes we do that too), we also and *MOSTLY* do learn how to defend ourselves and fight normally and even have techniques made specifically for defending against certain moves from other martial arts along with so many other things that don't even fall exclusively into moves, going from day-to-day behavior like learning how to detect someone wishing to mug you, to how to intimidate someone (if necessary) to prevent getting into a fight, to learning criminal behavior patterns, to anatomy and trauma phisiology and the list goes on and on. It is unfortunate that people immediately dismiss KM as dirty fighting and immediately label practitioners as unskilled cowards.
Lastly, (and if you're still reading this) I'd like to thank Ramsey for this video and anybody who showed enough interest to read all this. Kida!
Pants-off Dance-off what a class! Thanks for the text
Very good explanation
Pants off Dance off, I read your entire comment. It was educational. If you could help me, do you have the source or sources of where I can find Imi speaking about his life long dream "if everybody knew how to defend themselves, nobody would have to. "? As a KM instructor myself, I am no master, my wife and I focus on communities to learn KM for a time such as this. Shalom.
In 2010 when we held a celebration to what would have been Imi's 100th birthday were he still alive, there were talks of Imi's biography being either in the works or released (I can't quite recall which, its been a while). I am not 100% positive either, if it was being made only in Portuguese, or if they were planning on making an English version as well. Either way, all of what I described above about Imi will be in that biography (which I presume should be done by now even if it wasn't back then) in much greater details and listing all the sources. Try searching around for it on google. If you only find the portuguese version, let me know and I'll try to find out more about that quote. Personally, having been taught by someone who was a direct pupil of Imi's, I've only seen them mention it from what they themselves said from what they knew about him while under his tutelage, I've never seen or felt the need to check for records of it, unfortunately.
LENGTHY DESCRIPTION BUT WELL SAID (I also have taken KM before along with other Martial Arts)... WITH ANY MARTIAL ART, ALWAYS MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THE LEGIT CREDENTIALS OF THE SCHOOL/INSTRUCTORS (Karate, Taekwondo, Judo, Jujitsu, Krav Maga, MMA... even Boxing). And I actually found it effective to learn multiple Martial Arts even if you choose one style/art as your main/favorite...
In the army, we once asked the instructor for hand to hand combat. He answered: "You have a shovel."
And a knife. And a gun. _And_ a shovel!
I don't get it.
@@poorchristopher15 Me neither
Whats the punchline?
Ive trained Filipino Martial arts for about 5 years now... I've done many, many hours of full contact knife sparring... It doesn't matter who you are, if you get into a knife fight you will get cut period. Awesome video!
How many times have you been stabbed or cut in those 5 years? How many stitches?
@@cuzz63 i think the knife they used was made of plastic or something
@@braninacore Hard to tell, he claimed it was full contact and then says you get cut no matter who you are.
@@cuzz63 I sincerely doubt they would use a real knife in sparring, full contact or otherwise. Bad for business if students keep bleeding out due to being stabbed and cut with knives. But who knows, I guess.
Unless you're a krav maga instructor, apparently. Then you'll just get disarmed without doing anything.
I took Krav classes for over a year and loved it, my instructor was a good one, with the knife takeaways he always emphasized that there is no easy way to disarm a guy with a knife and that the stuff he was teaching was only for a life or death scenario where you had no choice but to deal with a knife wielding guy. He always said, you will almost certainly get cut/stabbed before you can take it away, but his techniques were geared towards making sure you didn't get hit in your vitals in the process.
It's actually easier in close quarters to deal with a guy with a gun, knives in close quarters are extremely difficult to deal with.
That's what knives are specialized for close quarter high contact
Haha that new Netflix film says if it's a gun rush the guy. If it's a knife run away
And that's if you even see the knife.
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4:30 the least number of times I've been stabbed is six....VERY HUMBLE STATEMENT...won't be found in many places on youtube.
Anyone who has trained full force with rubber knives knows what you're talking about is absolutely true. Knives are terrifying, period.
That shouldn't even be necessary. It's just obvious. You have to literally be some kind of kung fu god to perform fancy knife-counters when someone is trying to stab you to death.
Knife fighting is a stand alone art form . Even a mindless untrained person with malice can kill you with a knife! Just Slashing will bleed you out in minutes!
Knives are in fact the most stabby stabbers that stabbies can be stabbed with by a stabbers.
Fighting over the knife,rolling around on the floor,is intense.
The two oldest weapons in humanity -- knife and spear. We still use them today. Army guys "fix bayonet" and their rifle becomes a spear.
Listened to an interview with a former Navy hand to hand combat instructor. He said to get an idea of what true street fighting/ attacks look like then look at prison attack footage. Scary.
yep the truth about street fights is that wither they will outnumber or out weapon you if possible, the best even trained people can hope for is to knock one or two and get the fuck out
@Star Buck until they see you out when they with a group, street fights have serious implications other than just the momentary pain and there is no honor unlike people like to think
First rule of fighting for me...I’m only 5’5”. RUN AWAY if I can; cause simple physics dictates I’m going to be at a massive disadvantage no matter what.
Only if I can’t run, then fight using my training.
When he talked soldiers being trained in self defense for only 2 weeks, I was "trained" in self defense for 1 week when I was going through training to work at a prison. Everything they taught would not have helped me the only thing that could, and did on one occasion, was my past experience in being in several street fights several years prior to working at a prison. If someone has never been in an actual fight, they are in for a rude awakening no matter the self defense training they have went through. The adrenaline rush and the pure chaos of a real fight cannot be replicated you have to experience it to have any understanding of a real fight.
Man you got a week? We only got three days. And one of them was spent on book work and videos
Agreed bro.
Lifting weights is the best martial art.
@@MrCmon113 experience is the best art. I totally agree with the original comment on this thread
No way you got a week we got a day and that’s it
As a RUclips expert of martial arts I can tel you this video is completely false! Krav Maga is the greatest martial arts, no instructor of Krav Maga would lose to someone like this dude
You can trust me because even though I haven’t taken a single martial arts class I have watched 3 YES 3 videos about martial arts not counting this false video.
On a real note love your videos Ramsey. Keep it up.
I ve subscribed to both your channels
They had us in the first half not gonna lie.
Krav maga sounds very effective when taught properly.
The first rule of knife club is "you're gonna get cut".
The second rule is don't go in shitty places and buy a gun
@@MzuMzu-nx1em If you have enough time to get your gun out the guy didnt intend to stab you anyway.
@@aikighost a cheap trick , real small revolver In a pocket can fire from inside in any moment
it's called kevlar!
@@MzuMzu-nx1em itll also be inaccurate and not deal enough damage to throw someone off if they have adrenaline, probably. You would have to shoot it in one of their eyes or throat to do any real damage if its a super tiny pea shooter probably.
Krav Maga can suffer from an obsession with faux brutality at the cost of functional full contact training. Groin kicks and eye gouges are supplemental techniques not one size fits all delivery systems.
That's a fantastic way to explain it!
Clarence Baluca I've finished a fight with eye jab as a kid and as a young man bouncing.
Actually I just saw a quick video just last here on yt last week on self defense. The guy stepped towards his intended victum from just outside of reach and the intended victum extended his arm out long range as he came in intentionally to the eyes.
The guy ate fingers so deep he flinched by backing away and immediately reaching for his eyes and was assessing himself.
His big aggressive adrenaline move in was stumped and he stopped completely everything he was planning on doing. Fight over!
Just saying. That's not true. Do you bank on it? That's not the question. Can it end an encounter with a wannabe tough guy. - 100%
But I hear you - like this brother said mindset supplemental but take whatever you can get.
Clarence Baluca you gouged his eye out and he kept attacking you?! Was the guy on drugs or something? I knew people can be stupid, but i didnt realize they could be that stupid. Details, man, details!
Ramsey Dewey It’s not related to this particular thread, but regarding the knife defences scenario where you took your shirt off to use defending against the shoddy Krav Maga instructor with a bruised ego: if I was the criminal with the knife I’d be stabbing you all up your side while you’re trying to take your shirt off. You think a criminal is going to be nice and wait for you to get your defences ready? No way. Forget taking your cloths off. Nine times out of ten you won’t have time. If you do, you probably also have a distance advantage that would enable you to run away, which is the preferred option if possible.
Clarence Baluca OK but was this person in a life or death situation against you? After you attacked his eye was it necessary for him to continue attacking you to survive? If someone, for example, offended me and I attacked him and he put a finger in my eye I would run away or something, I would not continue attacking. Being insulted or wanting someones wallet is not worth risking losing my eye IMO.
When I worked corrections, they would drill into our heads during defensive tactics "if you end up fighting an inmate that has a shank, *YOU'RE GOING TO GET CUT.* You have to accept that and keep fighting, never give up."
I liked that approach, they didn't try and sugarcoat it and act like we'd be just fine.
As my Jiu Jitsu trainer once said.. realistic knife defence is grabbing a chair or anything to keep the knife away. Fancy disarms takes a LOT of practice to work
In legitimate Krav Maga, there is no belt system.
As an IDF veteran I can confirm this.
@@BlumChoi And what's your opinion on the efficiency of krav maga?
@@mathieuboumal1394 it's good for training soldiers in a matter of two weeks to handle hand to hand combat.
If you want a martial art I'd go for Jiu Jitsu.
@@BlumChoi 2 weeks of anything does not prepare anyone sufficiently for H2H combat
@Chloe Kennedy interestingly, it still doesn't work regardless of that cooked up story.
I was in Roman-Greek wrestling. My coach always told us the real life is not the ring. Play dirty, punch,kick, break bones if needed just so you can stay alive.
I have a black belt in the best knife defense system there is. It's called Run Fu.
It involves a 48.89 sec quarter mile (when I'm in shape).
You may have to fight the knife someday, not be able to run...
I should try it sometime.
so what is your plane when the guy with the knife can do the same in 47 seconds ... and you just showed him your back ... meaning the cleanest shot at your kidneys possible ...
my knife defense system has a caliber ... and muzzle velocity ...
My knife defense is called parkour
@@petelee2477 I don't really practise parkour myself, but quite a few of my friends are proficient. We call it, among other things, "the noble art of running away."
I was in a krav Maga-ish self defense program for several years, and the first thing we taught them was if it's just your wallet, hand it over.
But if it's your life, or they're trying to take you somewhere, fight for your life. You're likely going to get cut, but a cut on the arm is a lot better than a cut to the neck or torso.
I was reading on a website teaching krav maga, and the first thing they taught was that the guy who avoids a fight also goes unhurt. The first things taught was situational awareness, how to recognize potentially dangerous situations, and how to deescalate. Then the real martial arts training was basically how to get away. I feel like that is a genuinely good self defense course.
Ah this guy clearly never trained Krav Maga, I guess he's one of them Tap Out guys.
Best technic against a knife; RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!!!
Andreas Reinhardt ain't that the truth LoL
Yup. If you had no choice, use your belt , jacket or shirt.
that's what they teach in krav maga... but sometimes you don't have a choice and you can NOT afford getting stabbed in that heart... because then you would die if not be hindered in the ability to run faster than your attacker.
Best technique against a knife : pull a gun on em
Best technique against a knife: pull your gun.
Faced one knife working as a bouncer. Got cut before I knocked him out. Very lucky he missed anything important. Didn't know he had a knife or that I'd been cut on my wrist, until after it was over.
There is really only one difference when it comes to knife fights, and it's the location you bleed to death. The loser will die in the street, and the winner dies in an ambulance.
Well said.
Respect, from Israel.
Using your shirt. That's kind of brilliant. I'll remember that.
Me : Getting stab when i try to remove my shirt
Especially if you wear a three-piece suit
Also use you belt if u have one.
As I am a middle aged, over weight woman, taking off my shirt would be the best defense, I would scare my attacker away :)
From someone who's trained Silat and Kali, people are usually very unaware just how brutally fast you actually get killed if someone has a knife and knows how to use it. Also, in the real world you'll never see it coming until it's inside your body.
"Also, in the real world you'll never see it coming until it's inside your body."
^Phrasing.
There aren't many people who underestimate knives.
I come across far more people who grossly over estimate knives. They seam to think that having a knife magically gives an untrained individual with no experience of fighting a 100% chance to win and cause serious injury to absolutely any other person.
This man is so professional, polite and grounded if he can't correct you, you can't be taught
You’re right about the Banner of Krav Maga, So many people and schools claim Krav Maga yet they’re not legitimate Krav Maga practitioners.
You brought up great points and I’ve had similar experiences. I agree that there are a lot of charlottens claiming they do Krav Maga. I’ve been blessed to have trained in the Israeli military variation and you’re spot on in that it’s about switching on with 200% aggression. True Krav Maga isn’t a fun family friendly training environment. It’s High Intensity and it’s brutal, reality training where you’ll learn the truth about your fighting capabilities REALLY quick.
I’ve come across schools in the states where I looked at their training and shook my head because I recognized that these people are going to get hurt in a real fight.
I thought this was a GREAT video with great points made.
I am a Taekwondo black belt trained by a Korean and I had to learn that even if I'm might good standing up and striking I needed to learn how to fight in a clinch or on the ground.
So the bottom line is no art is perfect.
Good video by the way
First rule of knife fighting, don’t get into a knife fight
What Ive learned from krav maga videos: Groin Strike. Repeat.
I’m a trained observer of witnesses for 47 years and you have all the traits of being the most honest man that I have ever observed. You are quite simply unique!
This guy is misinformed! First the training is over 2 weeks! Second there are military training and civilian training. The Lichtenfeld who actually development it used a Combination of boxing and wrestling! Another thing this guy don’t understand is that they actually have a total belt category up to Blackbelt for civilians. Seems to me this RUclipsr is either jealous or misinformed. This RUclipsr should have done some research!
IDF soldier after a 2-week Krav course: I am the danger.
your thoughts on tongue-fu ?
the art of using your words to defeat your enemies, heavily practiced by lawyers, manipulative people, and con-men.
I personally prefer verbal judo
Naruto is a master of which
Knife fighting rule No. 1: DON'T GET INTO A KNIFE FIGHT!
i doubt that anybody with bare hands will ever choose to get in to knife fight - problem is knife fight will choose you and you should be better prepared for it
@Hitsuran a gun will not safe you. A knife fight usualy starts with you already having a knife in your body. The attacker usualy conceals the knife while apporaching so your gun will literaly do nothing. Best you can do is avoid fatal woulds and try to disarm him before you are beyond help
DEUCE Spatial awareness is something that should be brought up more when it comes to these kind of situations. Being able to consistently be aware your surroundings and the people in them, to know what kind of threat they could pose is one of the fastest ways to diffuse from even dealing with any of those situations in the first place. Or you can just put away your machismo for a bit and realize your life ain’t worth a wallet and several hundred dollars.
@@silentartist7854 true for the most part. Sometimes, there is literally nothing you can do. Some maiac recently just stabbed a random person in day light, on a busy street. There is no way to avoid an attack like that.
Dumbass slogan that helps no one. Like telling rape victims not to get raped.
"Hey, let me see if you can stab me with this before I can take it away from you." Ooooh boy, I knew exactly where this was going.
Frankly, I'm trying to see where the "krav maga" guy was in his head. It's highly rude and disrespectful to walk into somebody else's dojo/training center and try to hijack their customers like that.
I did krav maga on and off for about two years or so. The best thing I can say is that the punching/kicking combos we practiced were fine, but even then, the "advanced" krav maga students still had orange belt level proficiency despite many of them having taken the classes for years.
But that's on top of the fact that we were learning horrible groundfighting techniques and knife/gun disarms that would get you killed if you tried them against a real aggressor.
I started point-scoring Karate, and after 4 years I realised its not the best, most practical art so I started Krav Maga. In retrospect, Karate was maybe the better choice, because as bad as it was, at least we did spar. In KM the "attacker" would do one slow motion attack, and I would "defend", pretend to unleash a dozen hits on him, and he would pretend to take those hits.
Bad Krav Maga school. Maybe 3/4 are bad. Like all things shopping around usually helps. Any school endorsed by Itay Gil of Protect should be to a good standard. Any school with instructors that are former Israeli combat soldiers should be good. There’s a lot of pretenders out there. If they don’t spar and train above 50% intensity walk away.
You picked a McDojo Krav Maga school. I was on a legid IKMF school which i found through IKMF at Israel. IKMF comes straight from Imi Lichtenfeld. Our straining was 80% or more sparring, and if i look back to the bruises, it became as real as it could. We sparred on stairs, in narrow spaces in disco situations with loud music and strobo's i a dark place. We sparred in busses, cars, between chars and tables in full winter clothes and working outfits. Our instructor often came up with some guy from the group which suddenly, without you to know it, took party with the agressor. Thats how real Krav Maga training looks like. And the hardest thing we always did at the end of the training when everyone was tired, just like the end of a hard days work.
If you do not recognize my description of the training, you never done Krav Maga, at least not a legit one. And a fake Krav Maga is as good as no Krav Maga.
Looks like you went to a shit krav school.
IceCold11235
I have a "Yellow belt" from the Krav Maga Alliance, we actually did full contact sparing in our class, and I respect my instructor. In my time training with this organization, I observed and practiced techniques that were useful and ones that were ridiculous.Most of the useful skills taught were borrowed from boxing, Muay Thai, Karate and even from BJJ. One of the elements that made my time useful was that there was another student was a Muay Thai instructor who was there to "add to his toolbox", training with him benefited me, tremendously, and he later because one of MY Muay Thai instructors. The other positive was having an open minded Krav Maga instructor who also trained in BJJ, who encouraged students to expand their skills and involved us in seminars given by BJJ instructors, Muay Thai instructors and even firearms experts.
Dude, when i did krav maga the guy instructed the border militia, real hard people, and the drills were brutal, once a cop pased out from the kicks, in a test someone break the other's hand and the girl ace the test like it was no big deal, if it was choking drills you will get tf choked if you dont pay attention to the exercise and release from the choke, i've seen 2nd dan black belt karate shitting in the first sparring sesion...
Krav Maga, MMA and BJJ instructor here. I have to advertise Krav Maga as MMA inclusive, even in Israel, because of all the fake instructors out there that don't advance more than the theoretical in striking or anything else.
Krav Maga and MMA are close cousins. Same striking, boxing, kicking, takedown defense, takedown and grappling... all while sticking to the basics (so no fancy spinning shit/complex takedown sequences that are high risk for getting countered) And while in Krav Maga we do have submission holds and chokes, we understand the focus IRL comes down to striking over BJJ, so our focus lies in the former.
Firearm and knife defense takes years to become competent in, and even then you WILL get injured if you're lucky.
Ultimately yes though, Krav Maga is an aggressive mentality more than anything else. Krav Maga, like anything else, has adapted and uses the forward momentum and aggression to fuel the fundamentals of striking+grappling.
Avi Hyde My trainer always said this won't leave you unharmed, but you can't back down, you gotta rip the enemy apart. Also like you said our sparrings we're basically MMA but with some krav techniques like hitting the testicles etc. If you don't have a fighter mentality not even armor will save you.
I’ve been researching different forms of self défense to start taking lessons, and KM seems to me to be the all around best one (for the reasons you’ve outlined here). I’m likely not going to be fighting standing & grappling all of the time, nor only always on the ground. My buddy in Tel Aviv also recommended this to me given my limitations (I have mobility issues). I’ve got to learn the most practical form of self défense. When people see someone with a cane, they think “painkillers”, and I’ve been scouted out several times coming back from gigs at clubs in a raunchy part of town. Anyhow, I also expressed interest in Raw Combat International as well. The “group” in my city doesn’t have classes, just several friends who get together and will charge $70/hour per lesson!? My response to that is if you can afford that, you likely live in an area of the city least likely to ever have to use this form of self defence. I’ve mentioned my concerns to Luke Holloway, but he doesn’t give a shit. I am not interested in learning via DVD. Anyhow, I can’t think of a better form of self defence for my needs, and it seems that the people who shit on it are most likely not schooled in it or in order to prop up the form of self defence that they’re already involved in.
ThePesmergia A serious KM club teaches you boxing, as a basic and even towards advanced. I think its commonly overlooked that KM includes a variety of martial arts and fighting techniques. Difference is, its made to neutralize a threat quickly, not go 12 rounds in a ring counting point and following rules. Its as simple as I can put it
ThePesmergia thanks for follow up answer and input
Many fake Krav Organ in America. … I think the best is World Wide !!!!!
My Krav school was all about aggression, even when dealing in topics of self defense. It was counter the initial threat, then strike until they stopped being a threat.
I think that's actually the most important aspect of self defense.
When I failed my maths homework, got little sleep and the bus is late, I think I would defend myself very effectively. But if I aced my homework and had a great meal, I'd just talk to the attacker politely.
@@MrCmon113 I agree. Most people don’t have that aggression in them, and that’s why crooks and bullies go after average folk because they’re easy marks for thievery
Krav Maga, like any Martial Art, it all boils down to where you are learning it and who is teaching you.
and the practitioner.
Knife fighting is extremely dangerous, even if one is an experienced fighter the best thing is to run, if you're in a situation that makes running impossible, in an alley for instance, the next best think is to pick something you can use as weapon like a pipe, a stick, etc.
And I'm so glad you spoke the truth because so many martial art instructors and movies propagate this idea that a person with a knife attacks by doing a slow arch motion with the arm, while even a untrained fighter with 0 experience will not do that, not ever. Instead it's an extremely fast arm thrust, and in quick succession, I mean I have 0 experience and I can do that, it's what makes it nearly impossible to defend, let alone take the knife of the attacker.
In fact, police officers are trained to shot the assailant if he has a knife and trespasses the minimum safe distance between them and the officer, because even at gun point, if the attacker suddenly runs forward and thrusts the knife, the officer will get stabbed before the attacker drops from the gun wounds.
I just had a similar experience with a fellow who came to my school who was also a Krav Maga student. He wanted to learn Pencak Silat from me, and he tried to learn, but as you said, he couldn't fight himself out of a paper bag. He was so full of his Krav that whenever he couldn't do the techniques we were learning, he'd trash our martial art system and say, "Well in Krav Maga we do wouldn't do that. We do this." And he was horrible. I asked him to show me a Jab-Cross combo and he couldn't even punch right. His body mechanics were terrible. He had no stance. Awful. But the worst part was, he thought he was better than everyone else, including myself, and didn't listen to any of my directions. Anyway, I had to let him go. He was awful to other students, to myself and he had no skills whatsoever. Then he emailed me saying that there must be a reason for why there's a lot of Krav Maga schools today compared to seven years ago, as if that meant that Krav Maga was a superior art that's why its successful. Wow. Talk about self-delusional. When you suck at fighting and you claim you're the best, and you're ignorant, that's pathetic.
Reality TV, influencers, all of this is very successful and yet it is only intellectual garbage.
As long as there are idiots the scams will always work.
When I was in the military, they didn't teach much hand to hand combat there. Just some basic jabs and punches etc. Of course that was in 1999 when I entered, so our military didn't have proper h2h training anyway... still don't I think. But that mindset about attacking... that was something that was always present. Even when we went for a run (as a whole team), our company leader would make us sing all kinds of "we're the rangers, we go towards the enemy" and all that, and it was awesome for us, because it felt like we all were in the same situation. Our company belonged to this rapid response team, which trained to be pretty much first on the battlefield if one would ever land our soil. So naturally they were teaching us to get out there, not running away and be on defense all the time, because our company would be thrown directly at the enemy anyway.
So I get what Krav Maga is about in that sense. To a soldier who's using some AK based rifle (refined version of AK47 actually...), there's not that much need on a modern battlefield to know all kinds of different fancy moves some Krav Maga instructors might be showing. When in battle against an enemy shooting at you, there is no h2h. And if there is, then you use your knife. And if your knife is lost, then you use your shovel (it has sharpened edge for that exact reason anyway). And if for some reason that fails, you use your empty rifle as a weapon to hit your enemy. OR ir that fails, you get your hands on whatever sharp thing that happens to be nearby... and only then, when all else fails, you go "proper" h2h with the enemy, but by that time you or him are either dead, or wounded, because someone shot you or the enemy...
It's good to know how to fight someone in h2h, but to a soldier, that's just too rare to be taught in the military, other than to improve physical fitness and the "be the attacker!" mentality.
My whole thing with Krav, as a current practitioner, is that it definitely depends heavily on who's teaching it. My teacher always reminds the class the knife defense/disarms are not realistic and the likelihood of you pulling it off in a real situation is slim to none. He teaches sparring, grappling, and is absolutely legitimate, but my first time going to a krav gym it was a pile of absolute useless garbage. Much like the eastern martial art craze in the 80's, a lot of people teaching it have never fought, have never done anything practical, and are making money off of people who buy into the flashy stuff.
David Scordato What Krav Maga do you use? CKM, KMWW, ATKM or...?
Krav Maga World Wide , Alliance and Global are the best ones I Think
I was level 4 in World Wide and loved it better than my days of Muay Thai. Now I am training no-gi BJJ and its damn hard as hell lol
I have been to seven MT schools and 6 were utter garbage and I QUIT after 2 classes. So yes there are so many fake KRAV and MT Schools now that it like TKD. Only BJJ schools are always good. I never heard of a bad bJJ school. Some BJJ schools are more hardcore and competitive and others are more normal people
Actually I was at 6 MT schools and I joined one and stayed with it for 4 years but the instructor was a big Ahole but good teacher
I have trained KM for 2 years now. And I am more scared of knife attacks than I was when I started. I'd rather take on a gun man on close distance. The instructors also point out you WILL get stabbed in a knife fight. Better take it in the arm. Or just hand over the cell phone and bill your insurance company.
how the fuck did Vikings survive then?
@@moorshound3243 They brought a bigger knife... and armor.
I use to butcher 16 hogs a year. I can remove a hogs head with 2 strokes of my 14 inch long 2 inch wide blade . I could almost cut a man in half with 1 stroke. But I doubt most knives used in fights or that sharp . I would go from aluminum oxide to black Arkansas to a strop .
@@huckstirred7112 Also hopefully most people who ever use knife to assault anyone haven't practiced using said tool extensively like you have.
@@tappajaav I am just a hunter and butcher my own meat . But I do say I doubt most who use a knife as a weapon more than likely don't know how to sharpen a knife or take the time to do so . But anyone could drag a knife down your belly . The big difference is if a well sharpened knife is used , your guts will be on the floor .Look at the butchering videos on you tube .Put yourself as the animal being butchered terrifying
When I joined a school of real self defense (created by former policemen with a deep experience of the field) I was surprised they did not teach us about knives. One teacher told me "Krav maga is nice... in Israel. Here we are in France, with a different context and different laws. If someone comes to you in the street with a knife, it's to steal you, not to kill you. So we teach you to give him your wallet and keep silent. Handling a knife is only taught to advanced students who want to become teachers, because otherwise, you might believe you can do something and be tempted to react, but you will just be severely wounded, for sure. And we don't want to be responsible for that. We care about you safety".
They are the only real self defense experts I had the change to work with. Everything was so different to what I had in mind. We learned the laws (they worked with an attorney) because self defense includes not going to jail for defending yourself, we learned to decode the processes of target evaluation and conflict escalation to disarm conflicts and avoid being in danger, how to rescue a wounded person, how to call the police and describe someone, how to deal with real life situations such as a man who beats his wife in public, your neighbors that are about to fight about the noise, someone that becomes crazy because you hit his car with yours, and so on. Many real life situations they learned from being coops.
And clearly, self defense is not combat, it about creating an opening to escape and above all the rest : its about educating yourself to avoid dangerous situations. Teaching people to react once they are strangled to death is a non sense. There are always many things that can be done before facing this situation. Letting people believe it's not the case is really bad for them.
Oh man, in the place where I live you can hand over your wallet, your watch, your cellphone or your wedding ring but if it doesn't satisfy the criminals needs they'd stab you. This guys you describe seem like well intentioned guys but you know as much as they do that the law won't stop criminals from hurting you, so, if you don't learn how to defend yourself against a knife just because they think it might make you wreckless you will definitely miss that when you have to fight against an armed criminal looking for nothing but blood. A couple days ago I was watching a video called "most of the self defense disarm techniques are bs" or something like that. In the video, the guy said basically one thing "if you don't know about guns don't fucking touch them"... But... What would you do if somebody is triying to kidnap you? Would you fight back or would you remain silent while they take you away because you think it's a waste of time to try to fight back? In my country most of the kidnaps end up with the victim being murdered even if the money is delivered in time.
A co worker got stabbed last year because he didn't have enough money in his wallet and his cellphone was old... That's the untold true behind the "in-most-cases/scenarios"-line.
To me it's like carriying a spare tire in the trunk of your car: hopefully you'll never need it, but when you do, you'll be glad you have it there. And if you're smart enough you'll know when it's a good idea to fight and when to stay silent but that should be up to you, not them.
@gabo palacios obviously we don't live at all in the same environement. As I said in my country this is not how it is, and if you ask people aroud me "What would you do if somebody is triying to kidnap you?" people will think "what's wrong with this guy, nobody get's kidnaped here". The only people I know of who face frequent violence and knives issues are people working in law enforcement or security in nighclubs or similar. That's this kind of people that my teacher agreed to train to handle knives. But for most of us, we actually have no idea what these things are about, people tend to imagine it's like in the movie where the guy faces you with his knife and is going to make a straight obvious attack. And this conception is dangerous because that's what you prepare and train for. But if it happens to you in the street, it will be different and you are much likely to be killed altough the guy didn't want to!
Actually I know someone who was once threatened by a guy with a knife in broad day to get his money: my father. As a veteran he used to be very found of knives, and he actually did stab people for real when he was in the army. So when he saw that guy with his knife, he though "oh well, you clearly don't have the intention to stab me". So he reacted and disarmed him. But I'm pretty sure that if he had seen in the eyes of the guy that he was ready to stab him if he disn't obey, he would have given his wallet without trying anything. When you become older, you care more about seeing again your children than being Chuck Norris. But yet again, that's how it is here, and if I was living in your environment I would definitiley think differently. However today I think a key element even more important than combat skill is to be connected to your aggressor, to feel his real motivation and intentions. That's a very specific training too, with a focus on the inner state and how you handle your emotions / fears. And it's very valuable in a daylife. Take care :)
in reality the reason they don't teach it to new students is because outside of place's like Indonesia and the Philippines, there really isn't that effective of knife defense training. hell an old neighbor of mine was an army ranger, the army rangers teach their personnel knife defense, one year after someone was going around mugging people with a knife he tought a course of knife defense for about 7 months. he straight up told us that unless you go to a school of martial arts that solely focus on knife and stick defense than you really are never going to get that good at defending against a knife, the only reason he decided to teach it to people in the neighborhood was because some of what he could teach was effective enough save lives.
I was just thinking the same while i was scrolling down these comments. I life in Finland and its VERY unlikely that you get attacked by guy with a knife (unless you are drug addict or professional drunk). If you really want to learn how to defend yourself, why waste your time to train against something that is very unlikely going to happen. Also real attack is very different from training and even that you have trained self-defense against knife attacks you are most likely getting stabbed. And as you said best self-defense is to learn how to avoid those kind of situations. I do kickboxing and i many people have tried to start fight with me (all of those times they were drunk) but i have never thrown a punch outside the ring. I've always ended the situation with talking and being calm even tho i know that i could've beat the shit out of those guys. I have never been attacked randomly which can also happen, but i guess my size is a big factor in that.
Hello, I see you mentioned France. I'm in Paris and am looking for a Krav Maga school where one does full length sparring (possibly with helmet and guard etc.). Could you please suggest one? Thank you in advance!
The best way to not get stabbed in a knife fight, is to not get in a knife fight.
Your voice belongs in a biblical movie like 10 commandmants
he sounds and looks like Ed Harris
I was going to say the same thing. Or maybe a narrator or ring announcer. The sound of his voice makes me want to stop and listen to what he has to say.
Amen
He really should do voice acting
So shall it be written. So shalL it be done!
I really hate it when someone uses the military as a reason why you should use a product, martial art or training method. I call it the military fallacy. Militarises have different priorities to civilians. Any time you hear this used as a selling point you should stop to ask WHY are they using this and do these reasons apply to you?
Jim Giant another thing is military uses hand to hand techniques as a last resort. First and foremost they want to use guns and knives in a life or death fight. A read from a Marine who said if you lose your guns and knives and have to resort to using your fists you screwed up a long time ago. Guys fighting for their lives in a war zone want to end the battle as quickly as possible so a bullet or shank is the best way to do so, rather than setting up a four piece striking combo or a triangle choke.
Militaries and police forces, security agencies et cetera employ bullshido all the time in training.
Thankfully, not so much in the most recent of years.
@Matthew Van Helden Completely agree but the point is even if they used a system which was perfect for them it wouldn't necessarily be a wise choice for someone outside the military.
Oh ok I see your angle. for sure i agree.
ESPECIALLY when it comes to equipment/weapons nearly anyone with serious combat experience modifies or just outright ditches GI stuff
Thanks for sharing! Have an awesome day!
Just found this channel. This man needs more subs.
Thanks! Much appreciated!
When I was a teen and taking MA training, we asked about knives. My instructor said if at all possible, walk or RUN away from a knife fight. I thought that was weird at the time and kind of a let down, but he was 100% correct. There was a famous MA 'master'(supposedly, world famous) who got in a knife fight with a sailor and he was sliced up almost to his death...the 'master'.
Excellent. I've been training and fighting for 30 years. I was a bouncer for 15 years, along with much else. I've been a krav instructor for 10. I have a lot of respect for you and your perspective. Krav Maga is an excellent self defense system. Like all though, there are bad practitioner's and bad instructors. McDojo's are nothing new. I should note, there is major differences in various types of KM as well. An evolved organization takes the experience and evolves the system through failure. KM, like anything, must be practiced under extreme conditions. For instance, knife training in our school consists of shock knives and full contact gear, with full resistance. Much of it is done outdoors. Many of the km techniques people commonly see, such as wrapping up with all out knees, don't work. (rarely is it pulled off) For that matter, most any knife defense from any form doesn't work. Experience is the greatest teacher. People worry too much about if a system is legit. It's not the system, it's the teacher, it's the experience.
All martial arts have something to offer. Not all teachers do.
I remember the training we received in the Marines.Three ways nife fights end. 1. You die he is wounded. 2. He dies and you are wounded. 3. You both die.
Vietnam veteran's advice. Use your gun. Don't get in knife fights. If you do. Sacrifice your arm to get in killing strikes and pray he is not trained.
Wannabe badass speak. There is plenty of knife attacks in which no one was wounded. Exaggerations are not instructive. You're not speaking to toddlers.
Also you don't have a rifle in a self defense situation.
That is unlikely.
I've read a study that showed the mortality rate for various types of weapons soldiers get injuries from on the battlefield.
For knives it is a mere 1% mortality rate.
No other weapon consider in the study had a single digit mortality rate
@@MrCmon113 in any forum discussing knife based violence you will get huge numbers of these exaggerations.
There are a few quotes that always seam to get spouted out even if they are not relevant.
I love how people in every single type of activity get judged based on their abilities at defeating paper bags (or wet paper bags for Krav Maga). I knew a computer programmer once who could not write [code] herself out of a paper bag!
Great - and informative - vid, Ramses (just kidding - you remind me of the dude who played "The Mummy" 😜).
Krav Maga is just another sad example of how something pure was commoditized by greedy people. Smh
With all the respect, at the end of his life Imi Lichtenfeld the founder of Krav Maga handed out master diplomas and certifications for founding a school for almost everyone of his master students. There was some idiots among them, and that is why it is watered down a lot. In 2010 Imi's elder student Eyal Yanilov founded Krav Maga Global to purge those charlatans you are talking about and to maintain a higher level system and association to educate Krav Maga. So...Yes, a really lot depends on the instructor but at KMG the usual instructor requirements are very high and the mentioned idiots will hopefully fade away in time...
In my gym there is a lot of sparring and wrestling and we always try to stick to reality as much as we can. For example we also keep in mind that there is no magic technique against a knife. There are three solutions in order: 1. Try to escape from the situation. 2. Keep distance, use objects if you have to fight. 3. Then comes the technique if you have to fight and you don't have any other opportunity, but keep in mind that you will hurt. But a cut on your forearm is way more better than a cut at your throat. So it is about survival. 4. (optional) It is not a must to disarm the attacker. Kick or punch him in some vital ponts, buy some time for yourself and then escape.
Krav Maga is totally about the skill. I don't know what stupid instructor you have that you say that, but if you train with a good instructor and you are serious about your training you will be the best fighter ever. Belive me, if you'd come to train in Israel you would know how much Krav Maga is about skill. So don't say some stupid stuff
Actually, for years there is a major disagreement between Imi's IKMF and KMG as KMG has commercialized Krav Maga BIG time.
and yaron lichtenstein? no mention of him ?
KMG practitioner here.
Well there's a couple things to remember about the military and hand-to-hand. The first of which is that the military has only a finite amount of training time. Hand to hand combat situations aren't particularly common, they do happen, I was unable to find out how many hand to hand kills there were in Afghaniland, but there were at least five firsthand accounts, so it does happen, but it's exceedingly rare. In the Marines, I had about 8-16 hours of hand to hand training if you added up all of my sessions that I had to do in boot camp. And as the Israeli instructor said, most of that had more to do with an aggressive mind-set which is what they try to use hand-to-hand training to get you to, because that can help win a fight against a unskilled or nervous opponent.
Which brings me to my second point, in the military situations where you are likely to be fighting a trained professional fighter are rare. Even more rare with our current kind of insurgency warfare stuff. What you are likely to encounter is an armed amateur. So aggressiveness is a really good quality to have in that situation, and time spent training to fight against a serious professional fighter is probably not the best use of training time. Because that's not a super likely situation, and even if it happens, odds are that as a soldier (or Marine, in my case), you'd lose. Because you wouldn't have the amount of hours of training and sparring that you'd need to beat that professional fighter, unless you were also doing that level of training and sparring on your own time, in which case, what you would have learned would be well above what the military could teach you in the few hundred hours of martial arts training you might accumulate over your career.
And then there's my third point, if you are in a situation where you are in hand-to-hand combat, shit has hit the fan. You are basically really screwed, because that means you have no ammunition, you have no extraction, you can't call for fire, you can't call for any kind of help. Basically you are most likely not going to survive that, because it is unlikely that both sides will simultaneously be in that position and if they are then it's kind of a crap shoot anyways.
So Krav Maga does work for what it's intended to do, which is teach awareness, aggressiveness, a few basic fundamentals and most importantly to be broken down such that it can be taught in a very short period of time in a way that pretty much everybody can grasp it.
even special operations units do not train that much in hand to hand combat, at most someone like a navy seal will have at most about 60 hours of total training in hand to hand over the course of all seal training. anyone who is particularly great in hand to hand combat in the military are great solely because they learnt on their own time
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In Amurica they give kids and teenagers black belts 😂
From what I’ve seen most martial arts are effective. The only thing that matters is the student and the teacher. Even the likes of Kung fu can be effective if used effectively, and taught well. The best art is the one that comes the most naturally to the person.
Hahaha... I'm an origami killer.
Perfect answer
I disagree. Obviously the martial art is not everything and the fighter is critical. But there are real reasons why you should choose KM instead of Kung Fu if you pretend to learn how to defend yourself, reasons that are completely independent from the fighter.
Kung FU lol
I love how you and everyone else in this thread describe kung fu as if it's one style rather than over 900 different recognized styles
How to defend yourself from knife attacker
Tell him to stop attacking knives
Master Dewey you are a breath of fresh air. And u are so correct my friend thank u for being on the road to open peoples eyes u are truly a wise wise man. And thank u
I trained a really long time in Tae Kwon Do, and we're talking years. I'd get there after school and leave after the classes ended.
Never got that black belt.
Not because I wasn't good enough, but because I couldn't pony up 400 bucks for the black test (and an additional charge for the belt).
It was trash. I was really into martial arts and I think I had a knack for it, buuuut money was an issue. And it sucks that happened.
I have been going to a Krav Maga school here in Baton Rouge for 2.5 years . I did a couple trial classes at first and one of the things that sold me was the aggressive mindset and the sparring that they do . Having been in a lot of fights over the years helped me to see that they were wanting to show folks how to defend themselves . 2 of the instructors are local Swat dudes / patrol . A couple guys also do a lot of BJJ . I've also seen a lot of vids of KM on line and have thought WTF are they doing ? I recommend KM to folks but tell them to check out the school a lot before joining up . Good vid man , earned a sub from me
It's funny because I joined a KM school that has no sparring. There I met a couple of folks that came from the KM school that does have true sparring (the one I considered at first). One day I was chating with them and they told me that that school is rough but they don't feel like they learned any technique at all, only how to punch defenseless people and that's why they left. I frecuently train with one of them and my teacher is always correcting him because he punches with his finger joints pointing at the sides instead of pointing down, and I can't help but wonder: how the hell did his prior teacher missed that and the fact that he's punching with only his arm strenght instead of his full body?!
Research is key as you found out . Some schools that don't have sparring may teach great technique but you're never really testing that . Some may have lots of sparring but very little teaching .
Zach I live in Louisiana about 5 mins from Baton Rouge and have been interested in the local gyms. Can you recommend which one's man?
Jason Troxclair
Gonzales has a good KM Gym
Really like how you put this across without seeming arrogant. I qualified as A Krav Maga instructor and I agree with everything you said. I left the federation because it is not what it is marketed as and I couldn't be a part of the bull. I am sure there are some great Krav Maga instructors out there who can fight and defend.. I just haven't met one. I have subscribed. Good stuff
I studied TKD, Kenpo, Krav, and FMA, in that order. Each one was perfect for my life stage, at that time. A few years, give or take, seeing what each art had to offer. Had some good teachers. Ran with tough kids. Had a chip on my shoulder. I can fight hard, because of many reasons. I don't think it is fair to ask that of everyone. The students need to ask the right questions, of themselves and their instructors, or they will be spoon-fed garbage.
50% of the time I was concentrating on the things you're saying, 50% I was concentrating on your fine body, so I watched this twice to get 100% on both sides. *_*
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"Oh, my five year old is a black belt too!" I know the feeling. I'm a submission wrestler, and a very amateur one at that. I do many facepalms when I tell others about my favorite hobby, then get the inevitable comments about hitting people with chairs, or knocking someone out in a barroom brawl. Right on when you say, "It's not the same thing!"
I'm a Krav Practitioner and I totally know where this stems from. A lot of Krav students think that because the art is so effective it makes them indestructible, I see this in my class, and many other martial arts as well. Unfortunately, I think it is the age-old "it's not the style, its the fighter" argument. In my class, I will say that my teacher is the highest-ranked Krav Practioner in Canada, and lives breathes and bleeds the art. He has a true passion for it, and always teaches us the most important safety skills and techniques.
His class severely differs IMO because he teaches us a discipline of knowing to analyze the fight, and end it fast. Almost every technique we learn is blended with how-to properly stay safe in those situations, and ensure you're not walking in with a losing mentality. He often teaches us that walking away is always the safest. The most prime example I can think of is when we practised knife and handgun defence and were told to count how many times we got stabbed and/or shot. Really eye-opening, and he made sure to tell us that you never want to be in the situation where you would need to defend from these weapons, but its good to learn it some you at least know what you can do if in those scenarios.
I def agree that a lot of practitioners and teachers are garbage and really make the art look laughable, but to say the entire art itself is flawed can be an unfair argument.
Whats the name of your school/instructor?
I was friends with a kid from Israel when I was in junior high. His dad learned krav Maga in the military. When I found that out I tried to get him to teach me. He refused explaining that krav Maga is a military art not a martial art. It's designed around fighting with blades and firearms.
I'm 70 years old, bad left knee, bad left shoulder, my reflexes are not what they were 50 years ago. I have practiced judo (really a sport) TaeKwonDo, one belt away from black belt 40 years ago under the Korean system and I have boxed. What I like about Krav Maga is it's practical application. Defuse the situation and get away if you can but fight like hell if you can't get away. Amazing how hard it is to fight like hell for 60 seconds even if you are in average shape. Every martial art I have studied has some fanciful aspects, TKD being one of them. Today TKD American style is like dance class in pajamas. If you hang around 3 years, learn the Katas *{a Japanese word, not Korean) you might be granted a black belt. Sure you will be able to kick and punch and your flexibility will be improved. The fact of the matter is that at that moment in time when you have to react, what will you do?
I really resonated with your statement on Tae-Kwon-Do. I was a practitioner of TKD for 8 years under a very serious master and achieved my black belt in the process. Thanks to my black belt and demonstrated skill, I was eligible to be an instructor and took the opportunity. During my time as an instructor, however, reality crept up on me. I noticed how lax the school was in general, from patterns to kicking. Regardless of a students skill, belts were awarded regularly. A student’s movements could be extremely poor for their belt level yet, for being able to merely resemble the proper techniques in a mediocre fashion, they were allowed to advance. This deeply disturbed me, I didn’t believe these kids earned their belts in the slightest.
So I took matters into my own hands and tried to implement tougher training for the kids to expand much further in their development. This initiative backfired. I ended up getting scolded by the school’s grandmaster for being too tough on the students. I hadn’t done anything unreasonable/absurd. I simply increased the duration/intensity of exercises that were done previously and became stricter on what actually passed as good technique. My master, who also worked at the school, told me about how he shared similar stipulations with the policies. Coming into the school, he was a honed fighter who had trained under many martial arts. The reason he came back to TKD was that it was the first martial arts he had practiced which had him grow a soft spot for it. I was one of his first students and he held nothing back when it came to my training. However, as the years progressed and the school gained popularity, he was taught to refrain from such strict training to lower the difficulty level.
It was at this moment I came to realize that the TKD of my school was no longer a martial art but a business. It was appalling to me. Since then I have strayed to other fighting practices such as boxing but the TKD I first learned still holds a place in my heart. It definitely taught me many essential aspects that I integrated into my current fighting style but I strive to fill the many gaps in its teachings with other martial arts in order to become a well rounded fighter like my master. Taking all of this into account, it irks me whenever I see a young kid with a belt belt as I personally know just how dishonest that rank is.
Wanna know how good someone is at Taekwondo? Watch them fight in tournaments. You'll soon see if they earned their black belt or not.
Not speaking against Krav Maga,I have no experience in it at all, but I spent about 5 years working my tail off in a very popular Martial Art system to get my Black belt, and i mean every single day. And i still LOVE it . But then came along somebody that showed me how flawed it was in about 2 hours and i had to make a decision right there. Do i stay and allow myself to fool myself and just buy into what i had learned, or just start over? In the end i walked away and started over. And then i started over again. And now, i am starting over again a 3rd time. If you want to be a true Martial Artist you have to be able to take everything you know and be able to throw it away in search of the truth in the blink of an eye or your ego will get you "killed". It either works, or it doesn't work. Like when I asked my electrician friend "How can i be sure I wired things in right?" he said " If the light comes on, it's right. If the house burns down, it's wrong"
Absolutely true. I have rolled with (in a controlled environment) some pretty advanced BJJ guys and they constantly left me openings where I could use Krav to do serious damage. I'm talking about tearing out ears, twisting necks, elbows to the groin and more. They were so locked into there sport mentality that they didn't realize how vulnerable they were in many circumstances. I'm not shitting on BJJ it's a great tool to have in the arsenal but all systems have there weak spots. I cross train Krav + Muay Thai and find it effective.
First video I saw with this man. Awesome. Very reasoned, thoughtful, and respectful. No self aggrandizing bull crap. Much respect.
Haven't seen anyone mention that Krav Maga was designed to be done while wearing a soldier's full kit. That's steel or ceramic plates backed by a Kevlar vest, a helmet, boots, a couple hundred rounds of ammunition, water, rifle, maybe a sidearm, and possibly a backpack or rucksack.
It's not really comparable to Muay Thai or BJJ, as it was never intended to be applied in the same situations. If you don't expect to be fighting while wearing 60+ pounds of bulky cumbersome equipment, Krav Maga probably isn't for you.
Nobody did, because it is not true, Krav Maga doesnt even have origins in Israel, it was developed in Czechoslovakian jewish community as mean of... SELF DEFENSE. Yeah, and then it was adopted by Israel, after the WW2 has ended. Military version might require advanced military training, but this is just one version, not original Krav Maga.
@@agregau Everything originated from somewhere. Ancient Greeks had Pankration and that was the BC era. And covered almost all types of fighting aspects so suck a nut on what originates from what. Karate took its roots from Kung Fu. But you don't see people crying about it.
Aaaaand if you’re not okay with the likelihood of getting killed anyway, then again it’s probably not for you. Special forces in all countries do some cool stuff, but somehow people think what they do must be better for self-defense. It’s better for killing people, but protecting yourself is only secondary in those situations. Doing damage to the enemy is the number one priority.
Plus I don't think Krav Maga people are meant to be fighters but rather just attack or defend yourself and escape
Exactly right. It is 100% ment for self defence and the defence of your loved ones with as goal to get out as fast and unharmed as possible. It is 0% ringsport and never ment for the style of fighters you meet in the ring. Those people are rarely agressors on the street. Krav Maga is ment against the average "to lazy to work so he want to take your phone" kind op people.
Talent Dance TV pretty much it. We KM goers get tired quickly in the ring. Fighting a boxer who has years of experience is stupid. In KM we train for the most probable situations. If you find yourself in troubles with a trained mma you must seek for the best moment to attack.... Or run like hell.
Talent Dance TV totally right. Krav practitioner here. Is not meant for more than 10 seconds fight. If you don't solve the problem in that period of time you are screwed.
Talent Dance TV True, and proud.
True. KM is for 5 seconds to survive, MMA is for 5 minutes of sports in the cage.
One of the episodes of "Fight Quest" was on Krav Maga, and I remember the final challenge for one of the fighters was a series of one-on-ones. My clearest memory is the instructors pushing the fighter forward over and over and repeating, "Attack! Attack!" non-stop. The philosophy on full display.
One of my masters once told me this:
If you fight an untrained knifefighter you need 10 years of practice to survive (not to go unharmed)
If he has 1 day of practice you need 10 more years for the same result.
If he had 3 days you wound get old enough to get enough training.
It may be a bit of a exaggeration but for me it´s a good picture to show how much respect you
should have when fighting an opponend with a knife, no matter how much training either of you have had.
It's a massive exaggeration.
Frankly knife attack mortality rates are only 0-4% to begin with.
@@mrx2586 Where im from its much higher so maybe you can understand why I say its only a bit of exaggeration. But in the end if you are on the receving end of a knife thrust you dont care for statistics anyway :-)
I think the problem with Krav is that it's a legit military combat system - not a martial art - so in order to make it compatible with modern competitive martial arts, sports fighting, and a consumer market - they have to remove or water down what makes Krav effective.
Military combat is focused on ending a confrontation quickly and brutally - if not lethally.
Sports fighting is focused on fighter safety and prolonged bouts.
The two don't really gel very well - at least not yet
No one tries to make Krav Maga into a combat sport. If they did, they would spar more, and spar more effectively, and be a lot better at it. As is, most of them just sit around and talk about how deadly their system is even though none of them have ever actually done any of those deadly things before and probably never will.
@@RamseyDewey With all due respect, real military combat arts are designed to maim and if possible, kill...there is no *sport* involved..and if truth be told, even possible. Until one has actually taken lives, the magnitude of the distinction is not really comprehensible. In ONE of my *training* classes a fellow *student* accidentally killed his best friend-injuring him in such a way that he bled out internally in only a few seconds. The survivor was so distraught he withdrew from the program and despite some months of psych attempts at rehabilitation, he was honorably discharged and I later learned he had taken his own life.
@@seeratlasdtyria4584 True. Some arts you will NEVER be able to effectively train or spar with, because how do you train someone to *kill* or *main?* There is no moment of truth in sport combat.
seeratlas d' Tyria damn foreel? That’s terrible
@@RamseyDewey Even most soldiers never actually kill anyone. Krav Maga is not really a sport. I mean it is like saying that going at shooting range is pointless because you just stand and talk and never test your skill against other people. But you cannot compare training with real guns to airsoft really. Knowing both has a huge overlap of usefulness, but shooting range is not useless.