Got to appreciate the way 90s Baby Show took accountability and now doing the right thing by using their platform to speak on the matter in detail. 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Hats off to you Odja for standing up a women with wisdom for real. I can’t imagine how much frustration you must have had before coming onto this interview but you spoke eloquently and with grace God bless you big sis ! Mwana mbokaaa LOVE !!
You can see Odja’s anger and sadness, articulating herself clearly through the emotion makes her points more poignant. Very impressive woman. I learnt something.
This is what making things right looks like. You’ve apologised, took accountability and had a conversation to educate people on the genocide in Congo. We all make mistakes, it’s what you do to rectify them.
I have gained even more respect from you guys the way you have handled the situation, the accountability and the openness to learning has made me respect you guys even more👏🏾👏🏾
Massive respect man. You guys didn't turn comments off, you never shied away, you took accountability, apologised and made a change. The "joke" went over my head and I'm sure it did for a lot of people but I am glad this has brought genuine awareness to what is going on.
Guys if you add the hashtag #freecongo to the title it will send people to see more links about the situation. I actually had no idea how long and how bad it's been going in Congo. Thanks guys and especially Odja for explaining so well!! Eye opening and something I will definitely be supporting.
still supporting you man, lives are very hard to control, but the fact of acknowledging and accepting is and should always be commendable! Keep going you man! Missed you guys yesterday on my drive to football
@@Sosa-lb 100% and I hope he does imminently as Odja mentioned, we need to be educating the younger generation and with my own words that can only come when we educate ourselves through calling out situations straight up no matter how uncomfortable
As a congloese ,i feel this conversation was needed so in a weird way your mistake has created this conversation which was needed for more peopleto be educated on this subject,this phenomenal women was the best person to talk on this subject, she is very well spoken ❤
As someone who lacks awareness on this topic of discussion, I found this extremely informative! Thank you for shedding light on this and giving us a real understanding of difficulties faced! Big Big respect ✊🏽 This episode has really been humbling.
I think what I appreciate about this is that the conversation is not about forgiveness but awareness which is what this should be about. I hope anyone watching does support in any way they can
Its interesting that women are always the voice of reason and compassion in every society. The burden of truth and standing on business always seems to fall on black women, who are the most consistent when it comes to bringing people into the light. But it comes at the expense of us being seen as the overly serious, ‘angry’, can’t take a joke stereotypes.
Please don’t ever cancel your show, as humans we have to take accountability and you can tell when someone is being genuine. People online just wants this to stop and fuel of this hate for entertainment. They don’t acknowledge this is your brand you have grown and dedicated hard work too. This will likely not be the last time you get ‘cancelled’ it’s part of being public unfortunately.
@@wizkidgizmopeople can get cancelled but in this case they were not, people were just upset and rightfully so. To say it wasn't right is mad so I hope you aren't insinuating that. People being upset and having discourse about it is different from being cancelled. People get the two confused.
A massive respect to you guys for this. Taking accountability on a public platform and also ensuring you're educating and raising the awareness via Odja around the issues of Congo is respectable and shows such maturity. Keep up the good works guys!
It’s unfortunate that Tom wasn’t in this. I appreciate OSHA’s presence and STRONG UNDILUTED voice here. Mahd respect. So many take home points here - Big Up to 90s BabyShow for making space in this away. An apology is one thing and I was disappointed, hurt tbh but this conversation shows real accountability..
As a (black)congolese women ,i truly resonated with what she said about our struggles never needing to over be over explained,us speaking out is enough for people to stand with us,we cant stand with all other struggles then when its us its oursleves fighting ,all ism's are linked one is not more valuable than the other
Well done Guys! This is big men energy! Y’all turned around admitted the ignorance, acknowledged the mistake AND educated yourself and others! Really proud of you! Also yes you are a fun podcast but you started of as a podcast for the people/ culture.. continue down that path. That’s what I love about the 90s baby’s the most!
Thank you for bring her in and having this conversation and taking accountability for me this is far way more then a words written on X and I’m so glade and appreciate the steps head up to you ( as Congolese girl I’m glade).
I really respect how all of you went about this conversation, it shows so much accountability that we ourselves can learn from because a lot of people would sweep the offence under the carpet. Also, this just shows how much grace Odja has given as well as the courage to address you guys🙏🏽
No, accountability needs to be taken as they have done. They have dealt with it the right way! You can’t police what others say but you can police your own actions and response that’s the point which you seem to have missed! Love these boys and their response shows their hearts and intention
Well done Odja for coming onto this platform to speak constructively and truthfully from such a personal and collective point of view. I learnt a lot from just listening to you alone. Mistakes happen and the most important thing is we learn from mistakes, with privilege often comes ignorance whether people like to admit that or not. I am proud of how much the 90s baby show have achieved in building this platform, just don't lose what makes you guys unique it's always been jokes and fun but I do miss episodes of when you guys would speak about Seneca village and issues of real substance. Like VP touched on bring conversations to the table and shed light on them so people can really reflect on things that should matter to us as black folk and the diaspora.
As a Nigerian myself, this was NEEDED. I pray for what’s going on in Congo because something needs to give and it needs to stop man. But this defo made it clear to me that I don’t know enough about what’s going on back home. And back in Africa in general. Defo a privilege to be born here and raised here. Our pain isn’t the same back home so it’s so easy to ignore it and live your life. But us as black men or even black women defo need to educate ourselves more and stand by each other. Africa can be dominant if we stood together. I believe that.
Powerful conversation! Learnt so much! This was definitely needed. Feels like God orchestrated this to happen to allow for such moments to be had and also bring awarness!
Thank you for having this conversation with Odja. It’s really insightful and I appreciate your ability to wholeheartedly take accountability regarding this matter. It has encouraged me to do more learning & supporting of Congo to end this genocide. The root of this conversation is truly unfortunate, however I appreciate that it’s given space for us to have an open & candid discussion, to spread deeper awareness into the situation.
The sad thing is every African country has or is suffering this…. Even Nigeria with all the glamour or our supposed wins in entertainment and all….there are tons of people dying in Nigeria daily with boko haram and the rest and its all politically motivated and all about natural resources ….there is so much to whats going on in Africa as a whole and what we need to do is stand together united , be enlighten and build communities with a purpose that can get involved back home politically at the grass root.no one is coming to save us..even protesting changes nothing and trust me i know as i have been in my fair share of protests back in Nigeria the last being endsars…
@taiwoadeleye-davids5500.....Nigeria entertaiment industry in itself is nothing to brag about. Afrobeats is just one aspect of life, the real deal is that Nigeria is still extremly poor on a whole. Many Nigerians live in abject poverty and desire to leave the country in the millions. A oil wealthy nation like Nigeria should make the Arab Emireates and Qatar look like a joke...but its the other way around. Arabs have a vision for their countries and realized it, hence we see Dubai and Qatar today where the ''upper echolon of Nigeria'' likes to go flog their so called ''good living''. Where as Nigerian leaders have no vision at al and make sure Nigeria remains poor being a laughing stock aswell. Believe me fam all this ''Giant of Africa and Naija nr 1'' is all a facade and fake boosting. Nigerians in general are fed up with their country lack of development. Burna boy dancing and winnning grammies wont chance Nigeria to the likes of Canada, Japan, South Korea or even UK where many Nigerians would die to come for a better life.
My whole thing is that people making jokes about the situation in Congo don't realise that it's very easy for it to happen to them. These Western nations may act like your friends, but that will quickly change when they want what you have.
I love this and exactly what she said, people tip toe around Jews like they are the only ones who’ve experienced hardship and they can do that because they are powerful in many sectors of society. We don’t have to be afraid , we must speak up because Africa can only be built and restored by Africans.
@@davina7567 I believe u meant to say “shouldn’t” if so you’re right, however everyone makes mistakes and nobody is perfect, what matters is how you rectify ur mistakes and these man have taken accountability for their actions which is what everyone should do when they’ve done wrong.
Odja!!! 👏🏾👏🏾 thank you so much for the lesson sis. Hearing you talk I feel like I have been naive to the whole situation in Congo myself and have not done my part in getting this news out there. Thanks again for you patience explaining this
I did watch the live it did make me uncomfortable. (Not Congolese). I respect your response to the issue. And i'm happy to have you back ❤ Free Congo 🇨🇩
Well done lads I am so elated that awareness is becoming more public on this matter my uncle has been a soldier and has been working in Congo since I was 5 😢 this issue is so serious and it’s important to bring it to the forefront of I can I will definitely head back to Africa to build up my own country 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 1:00:34 #freeCongo
This was brilliant very much needed! Thank you guys for educating us about Congo 🇨🇩 We as Africans we need to do better for ourselves. And no genocide is better than the other Genocide is Genocide…
Really respected this interview. Well done for the accountability. Odja did a great job at explaining this so clearly. The black British culture can be very idle at times. We need to raise greater awareness for each other. We can't blame our lack of knowledge due to our lack of intentional research. We are responsible for looking out for each other, let's be our brother's keeper. I hope this interview inspires people to take the initiative to do the research. God bless.
Big up you man, it’s not easy to switch from a comedy podcast mindset to a conscious mindset. Noones perfect, the community voiced their opinion. You apologised. We move 🤝🏾
Somehow we should gather black people together from every nation to peacefully protest about what's going on in the Congo. If Somehow we can all get on one accord, pick a certain day, and just protest. It'll make noise.
Thank you guys for doing this and shedding light on what’s happening in my country ! i’m glad that we ALL can learn from this . And it’s not just Congo ! I want the whole of Africa to be free ! I’m very proud of you guys ❤️ #FreeCongo
Huge respect for the accountability and addressing the incident head on. Also a great choice of guest who had the ability to articulate the situation in Congo. 👏
I will always applaud the 90's baby for their ability to be humble and take critique. I am always for giving credit where credit is due and I appreciate them for always taking accountability if they've hurt a community. No one is perfect so perfection is not achievable, so you need to look at how people react when they've been wrong. The difference with 90s baby and most of us is their mistake is amplified. so if we can accept our downfall, why can't we accept people will also fall short. Educating and forgiving goes a long way for humanity.
A point that also is crucial is how the capitalist system works in destabilising in that region as well, for us to truly understand this we need to go back and discuss colonialism, imperialism, capitalism , white supremacy and many other factors.There is a book called 'The Wretched of The Earth' by Frantz Fanon that helps you understand that aspect of things as well as intense research on Patrice Lumumba and other Congolese revolutionaries that fought hard for the rights of the DRC people. Another important books/articles include, 'The Back End of Genocide", 'Congo Bleeding for Cobalt: A Genocide in the Making', 'The Eyes of the World', 'Cobalt Red', 'King Leopolds Ghost', 'Dancing in the Glory of Monsters', 'In the Footsteps of Mr Krutz', 'Consuming the Congo' and 'The Lumumba Plot'. As always free Congo inshallah.
This was great, because it symbolises that people can come together and make things right - regardless of level. It will be interesting to see how episodes go going forward because there will be that feeling of awkwardness when it comes to jokes. I can’t speak for Tom in regards to whether his intent was to be malicious behind the joke, however, I can tell the 90s boys didn’t mean to cause any harm by laughing. But where do we actually draw the line? Jokes - of different degrees - are made, and have been made all the time. How people receive them is subject and not one person is the same. Will we eventually get to a place where we’re unable to make any sort of joke? If so, I fear that unfortunately and eventually we’ll start to see the decline in shows/podcasts
There should be a line. We can all agree joking about rape no matter who you are or what your style of humour is like, is a no go zone! It’s wrong to talk about an ongoing current fresh situation that includes the most horrific crimes
@@jessicadembo5753 I hear you, but because your point speaks for some and not all, that’s what I mean by how people receive jokes being subject to the person. Not everybody has the same viewpoint as you and may find it okay (it’s arguable whether or not that’s okay in itself), however, should that group then find another podcast for example? Then that podcast gets shut down for spewing what’s considered as vulgar jokes/content? Then we end up back at my final point of seeing a decline
Everyone talks about Wakanda and a black civilization that prospers thanks to their natural resources. THAT IS CONGO! vibranium is the cobalt and other precious stones. But colonialism and neo-colonialism is what has disrupted and destroyed that progression. As a nigerian, who is pan african, knowing a sprinkle about the politics in other african countries is extremely important. We know what the Americans are on, we know what’s happening in UK but we close our eyes to what’s happening back home. Its like we’ve chosen to leave them behind because its tough and scary. But still…its worth a try, we owe it to our parents and their parents, who left for a ‘better’ life, so we should also do what we can to make our mothers home a better place.
@XsweetstarliteX.....Cmon man Wakanda is fictive something one should not take to serious but more as insperation. A so called ''Blk'' civilization that prospers on natural recources is not Congo at all. Congo is not even a civilization but remenant of a Belgian colonial territory designed to group a large land mass with very diverse ethnic groups that are not related to one another. Within the DR Congo there was no civilization that was recognizable to what Wakanda suppose to be, we have to be realistic in this. No one in Congo is so called ''blk''. That is given term Western Europeans gave the diverse people in so called Africa. Doesn't mean people have to adapt to these labels. If you give others the power to define you, then of course you already lost. Asians where called Yellow people and look today. Westeners do not there to call ( Chinese, Koreans, Japanese ''yellows'' because they have power, influance, structure and organisation. Alot African people are willfully ignorant and do not really want change because to change you have to change your mentality, ideologies, outlooks. To many Africans have a colonial mindset even if they think they don't. Nigerians and Congolese are extremly passive Christians, who value UK and Belgium more then there own culture, identity, values and principels. Both come to their fomer colonies for a ''better life'' yet their own are messing up the home base. Both have abundant natural resources and are among Africa's poorest countries. Despite all the allure of Nigeria with ( music, film, entertaiment) the majority are suffering with low economic development. In DR Congo its even more worse.
YES! 💅🏾 THANK YOU! And I saw her recently I forgot what channel but it was a really good discussion and I thought she was really cool so LOVE TO SEE HER HERE! Once I'm done with this meeting, I'm going to lock into this💃🏾🫶
Thank you Odja for educating us on what’s happening in Congo. Well done guys for this episode and taking accountability. Let’s do better ❤️#FreeCongo🇨🇩🙏🏽
I appreciate the conversation from you all as a Congolese woman - We all make mistakes I appreciate the immediate growth and acknowledgement keep doing great things guys. I especially appreciate our congolese sister. 🙏🏾 But can I add some cultural context for a bit a brief educational summary. Im worried the situation in Congo is still vague after the discussion.
1. Congo is a huge country its approximately the size of England, France, Germany and spain combined and has the largest rainforest in Africa only second to the amazon. Congo and amazon rainforest were once considered the lungs of the world. Keeping in mind the size of the country the conflict is in the east. West North and South are like any other african country and are tourist spots to visit cities, wildlife like Gorillas, Okapi and Leopords. One of the most biodiverse and mineral rich country in the world. Without Congo we the world would lose a lung and 85% of materials needed for technology.
3. Congo after kicking out the Belgium, Dutch and French was thriving people all over Africa at one point wanted to visit or study there but the fear has always been if Congo continued to grow espcially under Patrice Lumumba who like Sankara was assasinated - Congo would have been the Dubai of Africa and would have influenced growth throughout the continent meaning the west would not be able to benefit from Congos resources, Nigerias oil, Sierra Leone' Diamonds, Ghanas chocolate for free. Thats why people like Malcom X said black people will not be free until Congo is free.
4. What people can do to support Congo. Its hard because even I myself could do more but theres so many causes, from END Sars, Sudan etc. and people are just trying to make it in the diaspora, in Africa, in the caribbean in America, Europe, UK etc. But practical things are - support our culture, congolese music is one of our biggest export, in the 80s and 90s Congolese music was as popular as afeobeats. Supporting our culture puts us on the map therefore highlighting our countries beauty and struggles. Tourism, Congo has beautiful spots to visit that are conflict free pumping into the economy pumps into the local people and could trickle down to protecting places like Goma and not into corrupt politicians. Donate to a congolese charity everytime you buy an electronic device or vehicle etc. We cannot avoid technology but we can give back each time to the country and the people who bleed for us to have it. To have tech jobs, pocasts, new whips etc. Try congolese foods restaurants like Deluxe Manna or anywhere in North London. Ntaba is elite! Congolese mikate A1, rice and beans. I hate that some content creators act like all we eat is bush meat.
4. We can have bants as africans, about sapeurs how congolese dress, how Nigerian men are players and Ghanians love egg lol. But genocide is where we should draw the line. Nothing wrong with banter but as black people disgusting jokes about slavery or boko haram or genocide is not okay. We need to know when its funny and when we are exploiting trauma. The genocide is so serious they are SA'ing women then cutting off body parts to push them south and east to steal land and resources. I myself my family are not from the East but the people affected are still our fellow Africans and Congolese and everyone might know someone affected. And it is true, in the UK the culture centres around West africans, Jamaican and english speaking countries. Where as in France Congo, Ivory Coast, Senegalese cultures are mors popular as well as Martinique Haiti, Gaudalope and these francophone Caribbean islands so the awareness isnt there in UK. We can all learn and give each other grace. 🙏🏾
@@madamcongoleseAll this comparisons in who is popular and which center of cultures is more prominent. Its a given that in the UK Jamaican/ West Indian and Nigerian cultures are prominent and in France is Francophone Afrique and Antilles. That is to be me honest not even relevant as the focus is on DR Congo. Congo is a very poor country and with alot issues. It can not be compared to most other African counties i.e Botswana, Ghana, Algeria, Mauritius which are very safe countries, developing and stable places to live. People romanticize DR Congo but many regions are very underdeveloped to such a extend HDI has placed it as one the poorest countries in Africa. That is hard reality Congolese community needs to understand its on them to safe and develop their nation.
Empowerment starts with knowledge on what ever you are going to stand on and i hope this to alot of people who were not aware helps you stand with congolese people
I think this episode wasn’t just about 90 baby show taking accountability but I feel like this episode was for all of us to learn and personally I did so appreciate everyone and hope we all do better and come together and support each other
Got to appreciate the way 90s Baby Show took accountability and now doing the right thing by using their platform to speak on the matter in detail. 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
I think tom should also apologise aswell instead of limiting comments
@@Sosa-lb he apologised, but noway is he gonna come and get cooked voluntarily lol
Love how Odja didn't go easy on you guys, Feeling uncomfortable is necessary to grow and conversations like these make us all self-reflect.
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I have so much respect for you guys. Acknowledgement & Accountability has been taken. You still have my support 90s babys!
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Hats off to you Odja for standing up a women with wisdom for real. I can’t imagine how much frustration you must have had before coming onto this interview but you spoke eloquently and with grace
God bless you big sis ! Mwana mbokaaa LOVE !!
You can see Odja’s anger and sadness, articulating herself clearly through the emotion makes her points more poignant. Very impressive woman. I learnt something.
Odja you’ve done us proud sis thank you. Free Congo 🇨🇩
The guest articulated herself so well eventhough you could tell her words and wisdom was coming from so much pain. Learnt a lot from her.
This is what making things right looks like. You’ve apologised, took accountability and had a conversation to educate people on the genocide in Congo. We all make mistakes, it’s what you do to rectify them.
Wow Odja didn’t hold back, this was conversation needed. 90s baby show took accountability which is commendable. Lets all do our part to do better 🙏🏾🤍
I have gained even more respect from you guys the way you have handled the situation, the accountability and the openness to learning has made me respect you guys even more👏🏾👏🏾
Massive respect man. You guys didn't turn comments off, you never shied away, you took accountability, apologised and made a change. The "joke" went over my head and I'm sure it did for a lot of people but I am glad this has brought genuine awareness to what is going on.
Guys if you add the hashtag #freecongo to the title it will send people to see more links about the situation. I actually had no idea how long and how bad it's been going in Congo. Thanks guys and especially Odja for explaining so well!! Eye opening and something I will definitely be supporting.
Odja is so articulate and intelligent. As a Jamaican I have learnt so much. HUGE respect to her.
still supporting you man, lives are very hard to control, but the fact of acknowledging and accepting is and should always be commendable! Keep going you man! Missed you guys yesterday on my drive to football
Agreed but tom needs to apologise too
No they’re grown men who know the horrors of the situation and actively chose to fuck around and joke about it fuck them
@@Sosa-lb 100% and I hope he does imminently as Odja mentioned, we need to be educating the younger generation and with my own words that can only come when we educate ourselves through calling out situations straight up no matter how uncomfortable
As a congloese ,i feel this conversation was needed so in a weird way your mistake has created this conversation which was needed for more peopleto be educated on this subject,this phenomenal women was the best person to talk on this subject, she is very well spoken ❤
The way Odja articulated all this information was amazing
Fr. It came straight from her heart
i respect this, hard conversations are needed sometimes 🤝🏾
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This is why this podcast is one of the best imo
2024 is the year of accountability!!!!
FACTS!!!
Katt Williams... what a starter😂! Yeah 1000%.
You guys handled this the RIGHT way, speaks volumes - proud of you guys!
She’s such a well spoken women bless her at all costs
As someone who lacks awareness on this topic of discussion, I found this extremely informative! Thank you for shedding light on this and giving us a real understanding of difficulties faced! Big Big respect ✊🏽 This episode has really been humbling.
I think what I appreciate about this is that the conversation is not about forgiveness but awareness which is what this should be about. I hope anyone watching does support in any way they can
#FreeCongo 🇨🇩
Its interesting that women are always the voice of reason and compassion in every society. The burden of truth and standing on business always seems to fall on black women, who are the most consistent when it comes to bringing people into the light. But it comes at the expense of us being seen as the overly serious, ‘angry’, can’t take a joke stereotypes.
My level of respect for you is always excelling, thank you to you 3 and Odja for educating us! ❤
Please don’t ever cancel your show, as humans we have to take accountability and you can tell when someone is being genuine. People online just wants this to stop and fuel of this hate for entertainment. They don’t acknowledge this is your brand you have grown and dedicated hard work too. This will likely not be the last time you get ‘cancelled’ it’s part of being public unfortunately.
Nobody is getting cancelled. The Internet is an echo chamber
Their brand is laughing at genocide?
@@wizkidgizmopeople can get cancelled but in this case they were not, people were just upset and rightfully so. To say it wasn't right is mad so I hope you aren't insinuating that. People being upset and having discourse about it is different from being cancelled. People get the two confused.
Remember around the pandemic everyone got cancelled and came back lol
People will move on eventually
@@iffysd9864fr give it two months and people will have smth to talk about
A massive respect to you guys for this. Taking accountability on a public platform and also ensuring you're educating and raising the awareness via Odja around the issues of Congo is respectable and shows such maturity. Keep up the good works guys!
Respect you guys for this and appreciate you guys doing this #freeCongo 🇨🇩
Genuinely appreciate this so much so insightful
Odja spoke so well. I cannot even lie. So so well
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@@Laura-sg6ss she even taught me alot
It’s unfortunate that Tom wasn’t in this. I appreciate OSHA’s presence and STRONG UNDILUTED voice here. Mahd respect. So many take home points here - Big Up to 90s BabyShow for making space in this away. An apology is one thing and I was disappointed, hurt tbh but this conversation shows real accountability..
As a (black)congolese women ,i truly resonated with what she said about our struggles never needing to over be over explained,us speaking out is enough for people to stand with us,we cant stand with all other struggles then when its us its oursleves fighting ,all ism's are linked one is not more valuable than the other
This is really a mature conversation that was needed, appreciate 90s baby for accountability and Odja for education.
Well done Guys! This is big men energy! Y’all turned around admitted the ignorance, acknowledged the mistake AND educated yourself and others! Really proud of you! Also yes you are a fun podcast but you started of as a podcast for the people/ culture.. continue down that path. That’s what I love about the 90s baby’s the most!
You've done your part boys. Well done ❤
Thank you for bring her in and having this conversation and taking accountability for me this is far way more then a words written on X and I’m so glade and appreciate the steps head up to you ( as Congolese girl I’m glade).
I really respect how all of you went about this conversation, it shows so much accountability that we ourselves can learn from because a lot of people would sweep the offence under the carpet. Also, this just shows how much grace Odja has given as well as the courage to address you guys🙏🏽
Love how you used your fumble as a learning opportunity. We need more of this energy in 2024!
This is TOM MOUTCHI doing can we all acknowledge this.
No, accountability needs to be taken as they have done. They have dealt with it the right way! You can’t police what others say but you can police your own actions and response that’s the point which you seem to have missed! Love these boys and their response shows their hearts and intention
1000%
He's got away from the smoke with his trash music
But they laughed with him
@@LoveTaraJoyce Haven’t missed anything, dear. Just pointing out the root cause to this.
A lot of podcasts would have just ignored the controversy. You guys have confronted it head on.
Im glad she put them in place no holding back
Well done Odja for coming onto this platform to speak constructively and truthfully from such a personal and collective point of view. I learnt a lot from just listening to you alone. Mistakes happen and the most important thing is we learn from mistakes, with privilege often comes ignorance whether people like to admit that or not. I am proud of how much the 90s baby show have achieved in building this platform, just don't lose what makes you guys unique it's always been jokes and fun but I do miss episodes of when you guys would speak about Seneca village and issues of real substance. Like VP touched on bring conversations to the table and shed light on them so people can really reflect on things that should matter to us as black folk and the diaspora.
As a Nigerian myself, this was NEEDED. I pray for what’s going on in Congo because something needs to give and it needs to stop man. But this defo made it clear to me that I don’t know enough about what’s going on back home. And back in Africa in general. Defo a privilege to be born here and raised here. Our pain isn’t the same back home so it’s so easy to ignore it and live your life. But us as black men or even black women defo need to educate ourselves more and stand by each other. Africa can be dominant if we stood together. I believe that.
Powerful conversation! Learnt so much! This was definitely needed. Feels like God orchestrated this to happen to allow for such moments to be had and also bring awarness!
Thank you for having this conversation with Odja. It’s really insightful and I appreciate your ability to wholeheartedly take accountability regarding this matter. It has encouraged me to do more learning & supporting of Congo to end this genocide. The root of this conversation is truly unfortunate, however I appreciate that it’s given space for us to have an open & candid discussion, to spread deeper awareness into the situation.
LOVED this episode guys!! Well done on bringing light to the atrocities happening back home in Congo.
The sad thing is every African country has or is suffering this…. Even Nigeria with all the glamour or our supposed wins in entertainment and all….there are tons of people dying in Nigeria daily with boko haram and the rest and its all politically motivated and all about natural resources ….there is so much to whats going on in Africa as a whole and what we need to do is stand together united , be enlighten and build communities with a purpose that can get involved back home politically at the grass root.no one is coming to save us..even protesting changes nothing and trust me i know as i have been in my fair share of protests back in Nigeria the last being endsars…
@taiwoadeleye-davids5500.....Nigeria entertaiment industry in itself is nothing to brag about. Afrobeats is just one aspect of life, the real deal is that Nigeria is still extremly poor on a whole. Many Nigerians live in abject poverty and desire to leave the country in the millions. A oil wealthy nation like Nigeria should make the Arab Emireates and Qatar look like a joke...but its the other way around. Arabs have a vision for their countries and realized it, hence we see Dubai and Qatar today where the ''upper echolon of Nigeria'' likes to go flog their so called ''good living''. Where as Nigerian leaders have no vision at al and make sure Nigeria remains poor being a laughing stock aswell. Believe me fam all this ''Giant of Africa and Naija nr 1'' is all a facade and fake boosting. Nigerians in general are fed up with their country lack of development. Burna boy dancing and winnning grammies wont chance Nigeria to the likes of Canada, Japan, South Korea or even UK where many Nigerians would die to come for a better life.
This right here
Spoke so eloquently thank you for this Odja!
My whole thing is that people making jokes about the situation in Congo don't realise that it's very easy for it to happen to them. These Western nations may act like your friends, but that will quickly change when they want what you have.
I love this and exactly what she said, people tip toe around Jews like they are the only ones who’ve experienced hardship and they can do that because they are powerful in many sectors of society. We don’t have to be afraid , we must speak up because Africa can only be built and restored by Africans.
This is great from you guys, other content creators will just move on ..big ups to you lot accepting your mistakes and learning from it
Big you man up. Showing a great example of what black men should do
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Black men should put themselves in this position in the first place
@@davina7567 I believe u meant to say “shouldn’t” if so you’re right, however everyone makes mistakes and nobody is perfect, what matters is how you rectify ur mistakes and these man have taken accountability for their actions which is what everyone should do when they’ve done wrong.
I love this! Thank you guys for this.
She extremely articulate and very inspirational 👏🏾
Odja!!! 👏🏾👏🏾 thank you so much for the lesson sis. Hearing you talk I feel like I have been naive to the whole situation in Congo myself and have not done my part in getting this news out there. Thanks again for you patience explaining this
I did watch the live it did make me uncomfortable. (Not Congolese). I respect your response to the issue. And i'm happy to have you back ❤ Free Congo 🇨🇩
Well done lads I am so elated that awareness is becoming more public on this matter my uncle has been a soldier and has been working in Congo since I was 5 😢 this issue is so serious and it’s important to bring it to the forefront of I can I will definitely head back to Africa to build up my own country 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 1:00:34 #freeCongo
This was brilliant very much needed! Thank you guys for educating us about Congo 🇨🇩 We as Africans we need to do better for ourselves. And no genocide is better than the other Genocide is Genocide…
Really respected this interview. Well done for the accountability. Odja did a great job at explaining this so clearly. The black British culture can be very idle at times. We need to raise greater awareness for each other. We can't blame our lack of knowledge due to our lack of intentional research. We are responsible for looking out for each other, let's be our brother's keeper. I hope this interview inspires people to take the initiative to do the research. God bless.
Big up you man, it’s not easy to switch from a comedy podcast mindset to a conscious mindset. Noones perfect, the community voiced their opinion. You apologised. We move 🤝🏾
I love how she articulated herself, defo helped me look at some things from a different perspective❤
Maximum respect to you guys for handling this the way you have.
This should be on Spotify too
Somehow we should gather black people together from every nation to peacefully protest about what's going on in the Congo. If Somehow we can all get on one accord, pick a certain day, and just protest. It'll make noise.
Thank you guys for doing this and shedding light on what’s happening in my country ! i’m glad that we ALL can learn from this . And it’s not just Congo ! I want the whole of Africa to be free ! I’m very proud of you guys ❤️ #FreeCongo
Well done. This is definitely a step forward 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Huge respect for the accountability and addressing the incident head on. Also a great choice of guest who had the ability to articulate the situation in Congo. 👏
I will always applaud the 90's baby for their ability to be humble and take critique. I am always for giving credit where credit is due and I appreciate them for always taking accountability if they've hurt a community. No one is perfect so perfection is not achievable, so you need to look at how people react when they've been wrong. The difference with 90s baby and most of us is their mistake is amplified. so if we can accept our downfall, why can't we accept people will also fall short. Educating and forgiving goes a long way for humanity.
This type of accountability is what we should look up to!!! Love you guys and support you guys
Such an intelligent lady
A point that also is crucial is how the capitalist system works in destabilising in that region as well, for us to truly understand this we need to go back and discuss colonialism, imperialism, capitalism , white supremacy and many other factors.There is a book called 'The Wretched of The Earth' by Frantz Fanon that helps you understand that aspect of things as well as intense research on Patrice Lumumba and other Congolese revolutionaries that fought hard for the rights of the DRC people. Another important books/articles include, 'The Back End of Genocide", 'Congo Bleeding for Cobalt: A Genocide in the Making', 'The Eyes of the World', 'Cobalt Red', 'King Leopolds Ghost', 'Dancing in the Glory of Monsters', 'In the Footsteps of Mr Krutz', 'Consuming the Congo' and 'The Lumumba Plot'. As always free Congo inshallah.
I appreciate this interview guys! She held y'all feet to the fire and y'all received it well!
Odja spoke so eloquently! So knowledgable.
You know what? This is very fair! Big up! And thank you for this. #FreeCongo 🇨🇩
This was great, because it symbolises that people can come together and make things right - regardless of level.
It will be interesting to see how episodes go going forward because there will be that feeling of awkwardness when it comes to jokes.
I can’t speak for Tom in regards to whether his intent was to be malicious behind the joke, however, I can tell the 90s boys didn’t mean to cause any harm by laughing.
But where do we actually draw the line? Jokes - of different degrees - are made, and have been made all the time. How people receive them is subject and not one person is the same.
Will we eventually get to a place where we’re unable to make any sort of joke? If so, I fear that unfortunately and eventually we’ll start to see the decline in shows/podcasts
Mmm not necessarily awkwardness because it depends what the joke is... it doesn't mean jokes are shut down completely. It's just context innit💀
There should be a line. We can all agree joking about rape no matter who you are or what your style of humour is like, is a no go zone! It’s wrong to talk about an ongoing current fresh situation that includes the most horrific crimes
@@jessicadembo5753 I hear you, but because your point speaks for some and not all, that’s what I mean by how people receive jokes being subject to the person.
Not everybody has the same viewpoint as you and may find it okay (it’s arguable whether or not that’s okay in itself), however, should that group then find another podcast for example? Then that podcast gets shut down for spewing what’s considered as vulgar jokes/content? Then we end up back at my final point of seeing a decline
Everyone talks about Wakanda and a black civilization that prospers thanks to their natural resources. THAT IS CONGO! vibranium is the cobalt and other precious stones. But colonialism and neo-colonialism is what has disrupted and destroyed that progression. As a nigerian, who is pan african, knowing a sprinkle about the politics in other african countries is extremely important. We know what the Americans are on, we know what’s happening in UK but we close our eyes to what’s happening back home. Its like we’ve chosen to leave them behind because its tough and scary. But still…its worth a try, we owe it to our parents and their parents, who left for a ‘better’ life, so we should also do what we can to make our mothers home a better place.
I thought so!!! The film Black Panther always reminded me of Congo. 😢sad what's happening to those people.
@XsweetstarliteX.....Cmon man Wakanda is fictive something one should not take to serious but more as insperation. A so called ''Blk'' civilization that prospers on natural recources is not Congo at all. Congo is not even a civilization but remenant of a Belgian colonial territory designed to group a large land mass with very diverse ethnic groups that are not related to one another. Within the DR Congo there was no civilization that was recognizable to what Wakanda suppose to be, we have to be realistic in this. No one in Congo is so called ''blk''. That is given term Western Europeans gave the diverse people in so called Africa. Doesn't mean people have to adapt to these labels. If you give others the power to define you, then of course you already lost. Asians where called Yellow people and look today. Westeners do not there to call ( Chinese, Koreans, Japanese ''yellows'' because they have power, influance, structure and organisation. Alot African people are willfully ignorant and do not really want change because to change you have to change your mentality, ideologies, outlooks. To many Africans have a colonial mindset even if they think they don't. Nigerians and Congolese are extremly passive Christians, who value UK and Belgium more then there own culture, identity, values and principels. Both come to their fomer colonies for a ''better life'' yet their own are messing up the home base. Both have abundant natural resources and are among Africa's poorest countries. Despite all the allure of Nigeria with ( music, film, entertaiment) the majority are suffering with low economic development. In DR Congo its even more worse.
Accountability, have to respect it. 🤝🏾
They could never make me hate you! Well done boys
Odja muana mboka👏🏾, you expressed yourself so well ❤️
What is mad is seeing Africans post free Palestinian while Congo is going through worse.
@goodsingerization....Very true, the same (muslim-arab communities) that don't even respect Africans even if they are muslims
you can post about both no?
@@kaysheye7784 How many Palestinian posted “ End SARS” they are even racist to blacks. It’s a real shame we don’t prioritise our own
YES! 💅🏾 THANK YOU! And I saw her recently I forgot what channel but it was a really good discussion and I thought she was really cool so LOVE TO SEE HER HERE! Once I'm done with this meeting, I'm going to lock into this💃🏾🫶
Thank you Odja for educating us on what’s happening in Congo. Well done guys for this episode and taking accountability. Let’s do better ❤️#FreeCongo🇨🇩🙏🏽
I appreciate the conversation from you all as a Congolese woman - We all make mistakes I appreciate the immediate growth and acknowledgement keep doing great things guys. I especially appreciate our congolese sister. 🙏🏾 But can I add some cultural context for a bit a brief educational summary. Im worried the situation in Congo is still vague after the discussion.
1. Congo is a huge country its approximately the size of England, France, Germany and spain combined and has the largest rainforest in Africa only second to the amazon. Congo and amazon rainforest were once considered the lungs of the world. Keeping in mind the size of the country the conflict is in the east. West North and South are like any other african country and are tourist spots to visit cities, wildlife like Gorillas, Okapi and Leopords. One of the most biodiverse and mineral rich country in the world. Without Congo we the world would lose a lung and 85% of materials needed for technology.
3. Congo after kicking out the Belgium, Dutch and French was thriving people all over Africa at one point wanted to visit or study there but the fear has always been if Congo continued to grow espcially under Patrice Lumumba who like Sankara was assasinated - Congo would have been the Dubai of Africa and would have influenced growth throughout the continent meaning the west would not be able to benefit from Congos resources, Nigerias oil, Sierra Leone' Diamonds, Ghanas chocolate for free. Thats why people like Malcom X said black people will not be free until Congo is free.
4. What people can do to support Congo. Its hard because even I myself could do more but theres so many causes, from END Sars, Sudan etc. and people are just trying to make it in the diaspora, in Africa, in the caribbean in America, Europe, UK etc. But practical things are - support our culture, congolese music is one of our biggest export, in the 80s and 90s Congolese music was as popular as afeobeats. Supporting our culture puts us on the map therefore highlighting our countries beauty and struggles. Tourism, Congo has beautiful spots to visit that are conflict free pumping into the economy pumps into the local people and could trickle down to protecting places like Goma and not into corrupt politicians. Donate to a congolese charity everytime you buy an electronic device or vehicle etc. We cannot avoid technology but we can give back each time to the country and the people who bleed for us to have it. To have tech jobs, pocasts, new whips etc. Try congolese foods restaurants like Deluxe Manna or anywhere in North London. Ntaba is elite! Congolese mikate A1, rice and beans. I hate that some content creators act like all we eat is bush meat.
4. We can have bants as africans, about sapeurs how congolese dress, how Nigerian men are players and Ghanians love egg lol. But genocide is where we should draw the line. Nothing wrong with banter but as black people disgusting jokes about slavery or boko haram or genocide is not okay. We need to know when its funny and when we are exploiting trauma. The genocide is so serious they are SA'ing women then cutting off body parts to push them south and east to steal land and resources. I myself my family are not from the East but the people affected are still our fellow Africans and Congolese and everyone might know someone affected. And it is true, in the UK the culture centres around West africans, Jamaican and english speaking countries. Where as in France Congo, Ivory Coast, Senegalese cultures are mors popular as well as Martinique Haiti, Gaudalope and these francophone Caribbean islands so the awareness isnt there in UK. We can all learn and give each other grace. 🙏🏾
@@madamcongoleseAll this comparisons in who is popular and which center of cultures is more prominent. Its a given that in the UK Jamaican/ West Indian and Nigerian cultures are prominent and in France is Francophone Afrique and Antilles. That is to be me honest not even relevant as the focus is on DR Congo. Congo is a very poor country and with alot issues. It can not be compared to most other African counties i.e Botswana, Ghana, Algeria, Mauritius which are very safe countries, developing and stable places to live. People romanticize DR Congo but many regions are very underdeveloped to such a extend HDI has placed it as one the poorest countries in Africa. That is hard reality Congolese community needs to understand its on them to safe and develop their nation.
Thank you Odja 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 very insightful
Proud of you guys! Having tough conversation as and Taking accountability🖤
Loved this conversation!!! Loved Odja. Incredibly fearless.
Empowerment starts with knowledge on what ever you are going to stand on and i hope this to alot of people who were not aware helps you stand with congolese people
Odja ✊🏽💛🇨🇩..."you don't rate Congolese that much deep down" FELT that
So happy the comments understood the point of this video 🙏🏽
Thank you so much 90sBaby for using your platform ❤🙏🏿africa is one
I’m sure it’s been done and you have all taken accountability, I respect the approach, the hope is in private PK received an apology too.
Ivory Coast wasn’t the one responsible for streaming the match. The match was filmed by the Canal Group, an European company.
thats why i love the 90’s babys !! #free congo
A really necessary and insightful conversation 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Major conversation to be had!
I think this episode wasn’t just about 90 baby show taking accountability but I feel like this episode was for all of us to learn and personally I did so appreciate everyone and hope we all do better and come together and support each other
👏🏾 great guest & conversation
This is how you deal with these types of issues. Not cancellation but open dialogue
I was hesitating to keep watching the podcast but 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Same I definitely won't be watching tho
@@AngelaElikya everyone makes mistakes what more can they do?
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