5900X vs 5950X - Do You Really Need 16 Cores? Ryzen 9 Comparison
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- Опубликовано: 15 июл 2024
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How does AMD’s new 16 core Ryzen 9 5950X CPU compare against the 12 core Ryzen 9 5900X? I’ve benchmarked games at 1080p, 1440p and 4K resolutions to show you the gaming performance differences.
I’ve also tested a number of other applications including 3D rendering and video editing software suites like Adobe Premiere, both at stock and when overclocked. We’ll also compare temperatures, power draw and value for money to help you decide which CPU is worth it.
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Timestamps
0:00 Intro / CPU specs
0:34 Test PC
0:59 Overclocks
1:31 Application tests
5:35 Application differences
6:19 Power draw, thermals, clock speeds
7:35 Gaming tests
9:53 Gaming differences
10:40 Cost per frame value
11:29 Conclusion
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![AMD Ryzen 5900x VS 5950x ➡ worth the EXTRA $250? [12- or 16-core]](/img/1.gif)
1:00 the 4.65GHz OC should read as 5900X.
Please make a review of overkill gaming laptops
Dell G5 15 vs Omen 15
Hello bro, i watched your YT video and i felt good and i need a laptop, i want a laptop under 60k so would you pls suggest any laptop or some few laptops so i can choose from them...
You got a bad 5900X sample. I'm getting 4.85Ghz @ 1.3375 with LLC 2.
@@jayr8282 nice :) ca t wait get tinkering with mine when eventually comes back order since release day 5th Nov
The only bottleneck is my wallet
it do be like that 💸
Just put RGB in your PC. There is no use of Ryzen 5000 series.
@@AG-te9xp not true but u allways need rgb.
And availability
@@ryanolsen294 RGB is the most important thing in your PC. Without RGB, your system will not turn on.
The 5950X is king, but the 5900X is the best overall value. I'm building a new workstation and server for multi-threaded development and need to spin up some VMs, so I chose the 5900X for both. 48 threads in all to work with for only $1100 in total CPU investment. It's crazy good.
Anyone find a video comparison where they do gameplay with live x264 encoding with OBS?
It be great if the creator of this excellent video did that as well. I am looking to get a 5900x overall but I am building a gaming and streaming pc in a single build with a 3080 strix or tuf
The 5900x loses roughly 8 fps vs 12-16 fps on 3900x.
Idk if that helps you guys? If you wanna see the video I can find it for you
@@C0d0ps video because I heard different.
I too would like to see
I'd like OBS testing too
i'm honestly surprised to see that the extra cores doesn't hurt the performance of games that use less threads. Shows that they really nailed it with this version of Zen.
Can you make more work-station related benchmarks? Like compile time of applications in certain languages (not just Chrome or Firefox source compilation). Database performance, etc.
A most-excellent analysis, sir. You just earned yourself another subscriber.
I use my pc for music production and video editing, and light gaming, at first I was using a ryzen 7 3700x. But now I got my hands on a Ryzen 9 5950x, and let me tell you, the difference is day and night, I can move faster without having to wait 15 minutes to render a 4K video, now I can get it done in 5 minutes, and then move to my next project. I got the 5950x over the 5900x because the extra cores, I use so many plugins and virtual instruments while I'm mixing a costumer's project, such like compressors, pitch plugins, reverts...ect. the type of plugins that I use can max out to 100% an 8 core CPU easy, plus having to mix the vocals in the same project really put a lot of stress on the CPU some people masteries and mix the beat on one project and then use the whole beat and move to another project to mix it with the vocals. But that's not efficient and time consuming, because if lets say that you finish the whole project like that (mixing the vocals ) and then want to make some changes to the beat only, then you have to go back to the old project (if you haven't delete it) and then make changes to the beat, and then mix it again with the vocals. That's time consuming. But with this beast of a CPU I can mix the beat and the vocals in the same project and my CPU will handle the load. The load of a game is nothing compare to this type of projects. One more thing if you just planning on making beats, an 8 core CPU will be just fine, but when you start getting into the more professional aspect of music, you will need expensive software, and hardware. ( in case some in the comments be like: "oh but 8 core is just fine for music") Thank you.
That's great feedback. So many people yap about overkill builds but some of us do actual work and time is money.
@@kezziekz yes that's true
@NENO Beats So what made you get the 5950x over the 5900x?
@@GSL.LEYREADY difinally NOT gaming. I got the 5950x over the 5900x because the extra cores, I use so many plugins and virtual instruments while I'm mixing a costumer's project, such like compressors, pitch plugins, reverts...ect. the type of plugins that I use can max out to 100% an 8 core CPU easy, plus having to mix the vocals in the same project really put a lot of stress on the CPU some people masteries and mix the beat on one project and then use the whole beat and move to another project to mix it with the vocals. But that's not efficient and time consuming, because if lets say that you finish the whole project like that (mixing the vocals ) and then want to make some changes to the beat only, then you have to go back to the old project (if you haven't delete it) and then make changes to the beat, and then mix it again with the vocals. That's time consuming. But with this beast of a CPU I can mix the beat and the vocals in the same project and my CPU will handle the load. The load of a game is nothing compare to this type of projects. Thank you for asking, and I hope this answer your question. One more thing if you just planning on making beats, an 8 core CPU will be just fine, but when you start getting into the more professional aspect of music, you will need expensive software, and hardware. ( in case some in the comments be like: "oh but 8 core is just fine for music") Thank you.
@@GSL.LEYREADY His mother and I decided to get him the 5950X. Is time is money, then our logic is the more work he does the more money he makes and the faster he is out of our basement!
This was an awesome video, great job!
Cemented my decision to get the 5900X - thanks!
THANK YOU FOR THE REVIEW
Thanks, great charts.
Thanks I agree with the other guy int his comment going for the 5900x really don't see much difference and I'll use the extra funds to get other parts for my new build.
Thanks!!
would be nice to see some compile time benchmarks (c++, java)
Considering I don't replace my CPU very often and that I use my PC for more than just gaming, the price difference is worth it for the 5950X.
I got both 5950 and 5900. I don't notice any sort of differences besides a second or two faster for the 5950x but, the 5900x does run a tad cooler if that answers any longevity since heat kills.
@@Tmoua this video states that the 5950 runs cooler at stock and overclocked…
@@PS987654321PS What this video states is not completely right , because my 5900x is boosting to 4.75-4.8 without OC and barely reaching 70-73 degrees. He just have a bad chip. And one more thing. Imagine that the chip is a room and cores are the heaters inside. In which room will be generated more heat?
Good and informative video. Please do the same for six and eight cores. I'm super interested in seeing the gaming differences between a 5600X and a 5800X.
Good Job! Now I want to see the same with 12 vs 8 core ryzen 5000 series!
This. 5900X vs 5800X, please!
@@crxtodd16 IMHO the 5800x has a terrible price/perf ratio. If you're going to shell out that much for the CPU you might as well get 4 extra cores for a 100$
Alternatively if you don't want to spend as much the 5600 costs 150$ less and it's a 6 core processor. That should be plenty of power for gaming. It comes down to how often you want to upgrade. You can buy mid range parts, they will become obsolete a bit sooner forcing you to upgrade sooner, but you will save a lot of money in the meantime the money you save you can put towards an even better rig later on.
For any sort of content creation more cores = better. I'd get the 5900x if you can afford it or a 3950 is in a similar ballpark and has 16 cores vs 12. Again for productivity those 4 extra cores will be better than the IPC gain... I think.
@@Shattered-Realm bruh no one should buy 5600x for 300 6 corr in 2020 that’s overpriced as fuck 5800x is absolutely crazy and even worse that should be 350 for good price tops 400 not fucking 450 and ryzen 9 5900x and 5950 are the only worth it cpu with good value not great they maybe could be 50 cheaper but for performance and power and heat they really fucking beastly anyone who buys 5600 or 5800 instead of 10850k,5900x is getting scammed because price for performance is way better
@@Sajddhhs I arrived at much the same conclusion and bought the 5900x. That being said the 5600x in gaming benchmarks beats intel's competions and is way cheaper than a 5900x.
Despite having 6 cores it's got great single thread performance which is what matters in most games. I don't think it's a mistake if somebody gets one. CPU wise it's not going to bottleneck you and you'll still be good for 5 years before you really need to upgrade if all you do is gaming. For somebody on a strict budget that's an extra 200$ you can sink into the graphics card which will yield better FPS.
@@Shattered-Realm you're paying 100 bucks more for a component that's only marginal in performance at best, theres a reason why they're so priced so closely. amd showed off the benchmarks for the 5900x but never the 5800x, gee I wonder why? if you're buying it for workstation applications the 5950x is a no brainer for a extra $250 the 5900x is nothing more than a bragging rights cpu to be honest.
Excelent comparison
Hi! Could you tell me about your fan speeds then measuring temperatures?
I have 5950X with Kraken X73 push/pull on front, with fans on about 40-50% of max speed and my Ryzen in Warzone gets about 65-68'C.
Really great video. Thx.
Cheers!
There is no need for a gaming machines to have 5950X. 5950X is mainly for pro-consumer use where cores matter more than frequency and time is money. For example if you main activity is large code base compilation then going with 5950X will most likely save time (and money). For majority of people there is no need to go beyond 5900X.
Thank you
can confirm. I have a 5950x and I use it to play ark survival evolved. game runs just as shit as my old i5-6402p so idfk man
@@Dizzeke is the game a gpu bound one though?
too late... its on sale :D
@@Dizzeke its ur graphics card
Thank you finally work related
Very happy this was in my recommended, subbed! makes me regret my 5950x pre order.
I would trade you my 5900X in a heartbeat, I don't game and could use that render speed.
Would still love to see a 5800X vs 10850K comparison! Battle of the $450 USD processors.
The 5900X is the best bang for your buck.
Great video
thanks for the comparison. It would read a bit btter if you use different colour bar for 2 different CPU.
*R9-3900x owner here*
I do light productivity, but the applications I use NEVER use my 12-core CPU fully (with a caveat I explain). I get close in Handbrake but even there it varies a lot depending on what settings I use, the video resolution etc. The only way I can actually get to 100% usage is to start a second Handbrake session... so I might average around 80% usage encoding one video, but open a 2nd video (or queue of videos to convert) and it jumps to 100% usage... so if you are converting two or more videos then you should split between two, open Handbrake Windows (just queue one up, then queue the second window and when you're ready start the 1st queue then immediately start the 2nd queue)... obviously can get NOISY at 100% CPU usage if your cooling and/or fan profile isn't sufficient... I can't justify a 16-core CPU frankly but I do think my 12-core will last me around ten years as games get better threaded (and applications will probably depend more and more on graphics acceleration).
Great comparison
Thanks
Will you be reviewing the updated MSI Alpha 15? The one with the Ryzen 4800h processor and rx5600m gpu
Thank you so much for putting this effort on testing this CPUs. It's probably the most complete test all over the Internet.
Glad you like it!
"No. But I want them."
Wanted to know even though I'm planning to get a 5900X. Wishlist :)
This is brilliant. Genius.
Hello Jarrod, can you please compare the 5600x, 5800x and 5900x for gaming so we can see which is the best gaming cpu? Please
There are other faster M.2 drives almost twice as fast write speeds as the one you used so this will definitely make a difference, your drive has 4500MB sequential read rates and 3200MB sequential write rates whereas the Sabrent Rocket Gen4 (1T) has read/write 5000/4400 and there's another drive as well I forget the make that has read/write 5800/5500
I'm getting 6600 reads on my Samsung 980 Pro 1TB on PCIe 4.0 bus, but in real-world applications, you won't notice a much of a difference compared to a 970 EVO Plus. But I admit, I did buy two additional ones (250GB each) as I have three m.2 slots on my X570 MB, and it plan to raid 0 those for a 500GB boot drive. I don't care if I lose my boot drive. I don't keep data there and can rebuild or restore a backup image. That should get me some crazy speeds.
@@nicholash8021 The write speeds make a huge difference there are tests here on RUclips comparing the 2 drives and its big.
I would recommend running two instances of handbrake at the same time, 1080p is diminishing returns past 6 cores.
at 1:04 you have the text on screen for comparison as both showing 5950's for OC Frequency and Voltage.
1:10 CPU Overclocks - Both are 5950X :p
rip
You should test it with highly cpu demand titles like some RTS games like Total War series, it also have built in benchmark
and dear god i hope this can be a good gap for my running heavily modded late-game Stellaris lol
Can you explain or do a video on what they'll do while streaming and encoding? I'm trying to build a gaming and streaming PC all in one.
If you have nvidia.....My pc will game and stream but i use a 5600X and rtx nvenc so that im not tanking the cpu. The difference is next to nothing. I would conserve your cpu for gaming processes and offload the stream to your gpu. Twitch at 720/60 with 5000 bitrate is perfect. Also if you use alt+F9 in game with Nvidia highlights you can record at 1080/60 and its proper crisp, like yt quality crisp.
Solid review, been wondering which to get but now I'm sure - 5900x is my choice. Davinci is where I'll be most of the time but even a 10-20% (best case) improvement isn't enough to sway me to pay 45% more.
I'll be making extensive use of docker and containers and vms, so more CPU is always welcome, if I can afford them.
Love to see things which I can't afford.
"To help you decide which to pick"
Well you can't pick anything.
Eh the video is still going to be relevant years from now.
@@desertfish7497 Wise words my friend, wise words.
@@JarrodsTech I hope we have newer cpus by then, without supply shortages :)
That's why all of these dumb videos are useless.
Now that I got my hands on a pair of 5900x's, I can't sell my 5600x's locally. Nobody is biting and I'm asking original price ($299+tax). I can still return it, but man, I thought they were going to be easy to sell locally. I won't ship because I just don't trust the payer who might say they got a dead one or a different chip. Besides, ebay+paypal charges a fortune. Back to the store it goes!
What your opinion when it comes to gaming and streaming? Hard to find benchmarks
I'd like to know this too
Would the 5950x be better for streaming and gaming from the same PC?
I currently have a Ryzen 5 2600 and 3060 graphics card. Bottleneck calculator says the CPU bottlenecks the GPU by 42%.
When I'm plating my favorite game "Icarus" on high settings, I average 55fps but when I'm streaming it drops to 30fps at best.
I'm looking to upgrade to the 5900x or 5950x. The 5900 currently £100 cheaper than the 5950x but I'm just not sure if it'll be worth the cost.
@Jarrod's tech how about for gaming and streaming both at the same time , can we get some benchmarks for games like rainbow six , call of duty multiplayer, multiplayer games etc. gaming and streaming both at the same time !!
Thanks is advance for the efforts you make to provide us such informative videos , really appreciate it 👍
This
here just for info cos these CPU's are outta my budget
and out of stock
I’m just hoping I can put one in my laptop by the time theres stock. I’m thinking 5800x from my 3600x or maybe 5900x undervolted and some cores “off” when no needed.
@@sbeezynukka how can you upgrade your laptop cpu?
@@sbeezynukka nice lol even if I get it for my laptop there will be a lot of compatibility issues
marat my laptop is an AM4 socketed B450 based desktop replacement! Think XMG Apex (2020) I have the barebones (unbranded) model of it!
Not to knowledgeable on pc’s but am learning. Do you think the extra cores would benefit for streaming and gaming on the same pc. Or would it still be better to have a second pc to stream?
its a 100% worth if you have money and a bigger budget to afford ryzen 9 5950x with other components, incase you are alittle low, would suggest ryzen 9 5900x incase you are a little low, and yes, if you have the extra cores you can do stream and play in a single pc without addon mess (elgato and such)
Hello! game tests were runned with OC or without? thank you!
9:39 YES in Death Stranding all you do is walk around for hours.
I took this personally -Michael Jordan
i've been trying to get the 5950x for a machine learning project but there is no stock, most of sellers offer me the 5900 but i think for the purposes that i want it for is simply not enough, i wonder when is 5950x stock gonna be refilled.
All those tests are one at a time tests. What about a test where you record a 4K video in OBS using software encoding (CPU) - for example doing this on my Ryzen 1700 @ stock pushes it to 100% usage. I'd be interested in comparing a 5900x with 5950x for this same task. And yes I know you can use hardware encoding - this is not very effective in 4K recording + gaming at the same time on an RX480. While yes, sure, if I upgraded CPU I'd upgrade GPU as well, I think it's the principle of the matter - how would these CPU's compare in software encoding in OBS? The numbers I'm after are what % of CPU is being used for the task. Example: if a 5900x was at 90% utilization in this task, it would push me towards getting the 5950x instead.
All I can say that rgb on my ceiling fan increased its speed 50%
Hey Jarrod, how do you make those graphs that you show for comparisons and for your tests?
I just use Microsoft Excel
Couldn't decide and picked both. :)
Going to be getting the 5900x and the rtx 3080👌
🧢
Good choice mate. Hope you enjoy. This should be futureproof for 1440p gaming.
@@CrashPCcz 4K, it’s 2021
My son is running a 5900x and AMD 6800xt and its phenomenal. RTX 3080 should be equivalent. excellent choice.
@@Tmoua that's not true RTX 3080 and 6800xt are totally different smfh
9:43 Savage 😂😂
The 5950X is $399.00 and the 5900X is $299.00 right now in 2024.
jarrod, please review hp pavilion gaming 15 with i5 10300H and RTX 2060 MQ
got 5900x , thankyou
Good vid
can you please review 'Asus Rog Strix G17' - 'G712LV-BS71-CB' model...
If you have a 6800XT AMD sample, could you pair it with 5900X, and compare to 5900X+ 3080 (if possible using 32GB 3600 CL16 RAM, and be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler or Noctua NH-D15), and use all tricks AMD, and NVIDIA has on stock settings, only 1080p and 1440p (4k testing is not needed for most users). + if it is possible using Asus TUF GAMING B550-PLUS (WI-FI or not version) ATX AM4 Motherboard. Thank you :)
i just built my video editing rig. 5900x with an evga GeForce rtx 3080, 64gb ram, and 980 pro m.2 drives all sitting on a gigabyte x570 aorus extreme mb. so far so good!
That's pretty much the same spec as my build which I'll be getting today! What editing program do you use and how are you liking it!?
Excellent
Personally, for performance I tend to focus more on the GPU’s capabilities rather than the CPU. The hardest working component in any PC is the graphics architecture performance. A CPU does not solely indicate the speed of any PC. A PC is only as fast as it’s slowest component.
When will you do the smart access memory review (500 series motherboard + Ryzen 5000 CPU + Radeon 6000 GPU)?
I would be interested in that too
Smart access memory is a motherboard feature, and has nothing to do 5000 series cpus. That's just something AMD said to make you buy a 5000 series CPU.
@@mattevans1643 Not completely true. It's really called resizable bar and my 5900x with a 3080 supports it.
Benchmark Planet Coaster! I want to see an over the top mega park in 30 FPS.
I like the 5800x3D for gaming, the 5950x for heavily threaded CPU workloads, and the 5900x for a compromise between the two.
... That the one that is not intended for games but for 3d graphics, but maybe in games they are not very different and the 5950x even loses somewhere, but in rendering complex projects it will definitely be faster. (If not translated correctly, then I wrote in the translator🌝)
I was wondering what speeds stockfish (the chess engine) runs at between the two processors
Handbrake usually sees dramatically decreased efficiency per core when given more than 8 cores.
Thank you, this made me feel better about my 5900x purchase. I use Handbrake a lot for compression and VHS transfer
including corona benchmark is a good choice since devs does not update the core of the benchmark like cinebench does (thus make previous results irrelevant..)
Wow. That's what I call pro level comparison.
So if I have a 3900x and upgrade to either of these, would I have to reinstall windows? Obviously I would upgrade the bios and chipset drivers before hand but not sure if it would be better to reinstall windows or if it is not needed
If you have a 3900X most reviewers would tell you not to upgrade yet.
Beginner BLENDER user and my target is to make UNITY 3D game and move to ZBrush..My current PC is COREI7 8700 .should I upgrade to AMD 9 3900x/5900x for better performance or would it be not worth it? If not I will wait for ZEN 4 AMD processor..
Both the 5900x and 5950x have higher boost speeds above your static OC. The 5900x can manage around 4.7Ghz all core, with single core boosts up to 4.95Ghz. The 5950x will scale slightly around the same, however it usually manages 5Ghz or higher single core speeds, with all core sitting closer to 4.7ghz-4.8ghz. So by locking these you lowered their performance by a decent margin. As a side note, these clocks are achieved with Curve Optimizer, so your results may vary of course. But either way, Ryzen 5000 does not like to be overclocked manually.
would u rather get a nitro 5 with a 1650ti or a metabox alpha-s with a 1650?
Next 5600x vs 5800x vs 5900x? :D
very nice video exactlly what i needed. Less bla bla bla and more facts here ! GG dude !
How did you manage to get 81C with the 5950x at 4.7GHz and 1.37V??? I have mine at 4.6GHz and 1.30V with an Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 and my temps with Cinebench R20 are mid 80s.
2022 and I just got the 5950X at 5900X pricing😀
Nice one!
anything from 5600 to 5950 is a good pick if you can get one in next 3 month.
What is the voltage of that 4.65ghz 5900x? Im currently running my 5900x at 4.5ghz 1.25v and my temps are 75-78c in cinebench r23.
id like to see the 3900x vs 5900x vs 7900x vs 3950x vs 5950x vs 7950x with the 4090 and 4080 and 4070ti with uptodate driver and benchmarks, if you get the time
Can you do this again with stream performance? I like to see games like Apex Legends, Fortnite, Warzone, Valorant, etc tested.
loooooooooool
@@soupsage I'm competitive and people like me want the best performance. Luckily I got a 5900x.
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Can you make a comparison for PC setup with Ryzen 9 5950X + Radeon RX 6800 XT vs PC setup with Intel i9 10900K + Nvidia RTX 3080 / 3090 please...
I will compare those CPUs in future, but I'll be using same GPU. I don't intend on comparing different setups like that, rather I want to do fair comparisons to see the difference in specific components one at a time.
@@JarrodsTech Can you compare two different gpus and 2 different processors vice versa that are comparable in performance
Forget the i9 man, its better comparing ryzen 9 5950x + radeon 6800xt vs ryzen 9 5950x nvidia 3090 (or 30xx TI if it already released in the future)
@@ktldon uh no, we are testing different chips, not from the Same company
you can change the motherboard and compare your oc result
makes a huge diff for VR
Simple, if you are gaming only most of the time, and sometimes doing adobe thingy, get yourself a good 5600x. If you are gaming and streaming at the same time get yourself a lovely 5900x, it is good for multi processing too. If time will cost you money, then get 5950x.
I would like to recommend graphic card, but for now, stick to what you have. They are all out of stock!
What about a 5950 for msfs2020 😂
Hello bro, i want to purchase a laptop and my budget goes as far as 60k so pls would you suggest any best overall laptop so i can play high end games also
Hello, got a problem with my g14 - after disconecting it from external monitor (usbc-dc connection to xiaomi with conected speakers), lowtone speakers of the g14 were not playing (hightone speakers works fine, i think). I have tried to reinstal everything (drivers and system), and nothing helped. Some time later, after a 2 or 3 reconeconecting attemps to the monitor, lowtone speakers suddenly started to work again, but after an hour, they turn off again (monitor was connected durning this time). Have someone idea what can be the problem?
your aio is mounted the wrong way. the connectors need to point down or be below the radiator. it doesnt have to cause problems but it certainly can...
That, and also that nzxt case has the worst airflow known to man. They look ok but thats about it
I just want to see task manager cpu usage while gaming...
Did you adjust memory timings?
Hi! Does less powerful graphics card make the gap wider or smaller between the two CPUs? how much does the statistics generally change to slower if the graphics card is not so high end (lets say from 3090 to 3070 or 3060 ti or 6800? Im still waiting the avaibility of 6800 but i've heard that nvidia might be better for video editing... (but personally I see 6800 being more long term)