Swallow penny ranking is criminal, that shit is op af. It always drops a coin, and that coin can be dime or nickel and sometimes a lucky penny. When you get an arcade you can basically grantee you pay out all the machine and beggers. Not to mention d20 game breaks that are some times possible. Although i agreed it useless late game, but early and mid game basically a free win if you use it right.
Swallowed Penny isnt op. I dont see how you'd get a full arcade pay out with just Swallowed Penny (besides maybe a blood donation bank (which Blood Donation Banks are op af, I will give you that). Breaking the game with d20 is free and definetly doesnt require swallowed penny just d20 plus anything that drops pick-ups does the trick.
This FR Swallowed Penny atleast deserved to be in cool i guess tier for these reasons: 1. It's a godsend on playing the Keepers it's so busted on them it had to be nerfed to only be a chance. 2. It has a high chance to appear early game due to dropping from pots (A 2.5% chance per pot broken compared to Petrified Poops 0.5% though you break more poops than pots so you might see it more) which are usually on the basement, like petrified poop another really strong trinket in the cool tier. 3. Blood banks become even more powerful than they already are, doubling the amount of money you make from them. 4. The chance to see a blood bank goes up, because you can save up enough money early to get an arcade to spawn. 5. ANYTHING that requires taking damage gives you a slight benefit that can add up over a run (Sac rooms, Cursed rooms, Spiked Chests). I will concede that late game when you no longer have shops it is no longer useful but has a similar falloff to petrified poop because by the time you stop seeing shops is the same time you stop seeing poop on floors.
39. Cancer: you missed the part where it breaks the tear cap beign even more valuable than curved horn in the late game since your DPS Will likely be Better with cancer than with curved horn. As an Isaac veteran the horn vs cancer was a huge discussion in the community since wrath of the lamb
@@newto2794 Unfortunately yeah, they changed it from -2 tear delay to +1.0 tears. I was shocked myself and also thought it still breaks the cap but I just checked it today and I feel like my existence is a lie. XD
@@newto2794 Wait mb they changed how breaking the cap works and now pluses to fire rate (not tears) break the cap. It now breaks the cap by one instead of two. Sorry for being an idiot. Don't know why Ed changed it but yeah it's weird.
Yeah honestly this video starts off with bs right away. How tf is Swallowed Penny worse than Petrified Poop? Sure you don't want to take damage and should always imply a perfect player when ranking stuff... But how many high poop seeds are there actually? Chances are you get Petrified Poop in Basement and maybe two coins from the five poops you encounter. And then never encounter much poop ever again except for red poop in Super Secret Rooms/Womb. Card against humanity is very rare you can't bet on getting it. Swallowed Penny, there are plenty of instances where taking damage is still worth it, like Blood Donation Machines, chests/pickups behind spikes...you can allow yourself to get hit to make it for a Shop Item...Swallowed Penny is good you can turn your spare hearts into coin and ensure your shop buy every floor. Petrified Poop only really works with other Poop synergy items. Otherwise weak trinket.
@@anzorunono4967 You can break the game with Infinite Stores, IV bag, high luck and enough pickup spawn items like Swallowed Penny, Piggy Bank, Habit, Dark bum, Bum friend, Bumbo, etc. If you get Soul Converter and Potaoe Peeler you can make infinite Super Meat Boys. The on-damage spawn pickups stuff is all completely broken and can so easily be exploited with cheap store item builds that you just shouldn't underrate them.
@@madness9651because swallowed penny is situational. For keeper and keeper is must have. For lost, t.lost and any other character without red hearts it is almost useless. Petrified poop is better for every character either by giving soul hearts, hearts and money. Idk man, I love swallowed penny but not every time
@@cumcumcum148 Complete Bullshit. You want to avoid damage from enemies, but there are plenty of instances where you can trade self-damage for value, and unless you are going for Hush/Boss Rush you should do so every time. Always trade in your spare Red Hearts from the map to the Blood Donation Machine, Devil Beggars or Curse Rooms, then there are Items like Piggy Bank or Habit that synergyze incredible well. Blood Donation Machine is particularly broken and gives you tons of cheap HP ups that you can then trade in for Devil Deals. Habit+Schoolbag+IV Bag+Converter+Infinite Stores+Chaos+Potatoe Peeler and enough Luck is infinite Money+Infinite Hearts and INFINITE ITEMS and INFINITE SUPER MEAT BOYS...with a store item combo. Had a Cain run lately where I broke the game, then accidentally fell down an Ehwaz traphole and finished with no Completion Mark due to not getting Polaroid/Negative. Sorry but you just didn't seem to have realized the way to play this game. Swallowed Penny is top tier trinket for any character except The Lost and Judas before he gets an HP up.
1:18:20 About “Equality!” You get your pickups to all be equal… and then you clear the whole floor without picking up any more stuff. And then you go pick it all up at once, now that it’s all doubled. It’s saved more than one of my runs before. It just requires a lot of fudging and minmaxing to get it to work for you.
I've managed to do this once in like, 1500 hours of play but the one time I did it saved the run lol. Went from worst trinket NA to being pretty cool and good, even if it is HIIIIGHLY situational.
48:08 LazyMattMan Slander found, collab lost, channel in shambles + L + Bozo + Stomped by Mom's Toenail effect (I did enjoy the video, thank you for making this list!)
#107 "Crow Heart" You are not forced to hold this trinket. You can just drop it, full clear, pick it up and use on curse room without hurting your soul hearts or sacrifice room which might turn all of red hearts on the floor into an angel item potentialy. It is not much but definitely not completly useless
You really should have added a "sucks, but synergy" tier. Broken Teleport can be pretty amazing with the right active item. And I also had runs where stuff like Whip Worm has actually been really useful.
Looking for this; Broken remote + any no charge item (which there are a good deal of) = infinite teleports! This means you can escape dangerous situations, get in and out of any locked room for free, and even skip to the end of every floor with just a few clicks.
I agree, sometimes I get triple A and it ends up allowing me to clear rooms pretty quick with no damage. Even though most of the time I'll happily swap it out for something better
Swallowed Penny placement made me wanna rip my eyes out, pls reconsider this man.. (Seriously that thing is op af and can make your runs easily, if utilized properly)
Swallowed penny is very eh. 1 coin per time your hit isnt very good, gives at most (not accounting healing) 24 coins. Which is 1-3 shop items, which are mediocre most of the time. Swallowed penny's greatest strength is being moderately common (bombing pots) and giving a 50% (?) chance to also drop a coin as Keeper.
As a vehement hater of Mom's toenail, I have one small defense of it. If you use it with gnawed leaf, you could afk most rooms/bosses, granted, it'll take an eternity, but if it's golden or if you have mom's box it becomes decently better. Combine this with even a weak orbital and you might just have yourself a run winner
I literally use this item to fight bosses all the time, I was so confused when he called it useless because I always watch the timer and time when the foot it coming down especially early game, I count it as a quick boss killer everytime I see it early
An important note for door stop is that if you are playing the lost, or you just luckily got holy mantle, you can use it to leave a room upon getting hit to basically retry the room without death looming over you
That requires luck, you'd need a sacrificial room, a dark chest or a joker card, so you might as well replace it when a better option becomes available
@@ciranopunalesvigliarolo3788there's also a Rare super secret room layout with an angel and 3 blue hearts, as well as most notable in the form of stairway
@@ciranopunalesvigliarolo3788stairway and secret rooms can have can have angel statues so, pretty well worth to bring along if you don’t have anything better
Good list. Overlooked the power of dropping trinkets in the first room of a floor and only picking it up when you need it. This makes a lot of situational trinkets good, for ex the cursed trinkets
bob's bladder is actually surprisingly good early-mid game imo, the puddle of creep does INSANE dps (way more than the bomb itself) so if you push it into a boss that moves and the boss walks onto it it'll basically instantly kill them. its not too hard to use on a lot of bosses and i've been carried by it a few times. (i do have 2500 hours in the game. you got me)
Butter can be used to get more items from whatever item pool you want if you manage to find a reroll machine in said room (or if you place one with that one repentance card). Using the item will drop it, then you can reroll until you have something better. Super niche item usage, but game breaking potential.
I think overall this list is really good but broken remote can force you to go into any room with no error room chance if you're using an infinite use active item. This includes secret rooms, shops, treasure rooms, planetariums, libraries, bedrooms, secret rooms, challenge rooms, and there's probably more im forgetting. It also allows itself to be used as a panic option for the lost, as on teleport your mantle will recharge.
I remember picking up expansion pack and when i used the d6 to reroll a boss item i ended up getting metronome which in turn used the d100 effect which made me want to sacrifice room IRL, have not picked it up since.
i don't think expansion pack can proc the d100 effect though, from what I looked into it only uses active items that have 2 charges or less buuuuuuut I may have read it incorrectly 🤔
@@AnotherMattPlayingIsaac yeah when it rerolled my items I was astonished and started to look into it. Apparently the only way for this to happen is from a use of metronome as I found a couple instances of people using a item with expansion pack and it activating metronome which then uses other items like death certificate or in my case d100. PS: Fuck d100
Love the list! I’ll toss in my defense for Gigante Bean: There are an overabundance of “meh”-tier farting items that become effective room-clearers with this item. I’d still not put it higher than “whatever” since it requires relevant items to be useful, but it’s great at opening up a different axis of combat.
Crow Heart can be very useful. If you find it as the forgotten. Then it causes any damage to use up the red hearts and not your Bone Hearts. So you only loose the bone hearts after all red hearts and greatly reduce the risk of losing devil chance
30:20 for cursed skull, there was one very specific instance where cursed skull actually helped me. This was back when I was still a beginner Isaac player and hadn't beaten mum yet. So I happened upon this trinket alongside Scapular, which gives you a free soul heart when you're reduced to half a heart. Which means every time mum kicks me, I lose my soul heart, get teleported out, and get a new soul heart. Making me practically invincible. It is an incredibly nieche scenario, but the item is not completely useless.
My Cursed Skull experience was completely different. I had Gimpy with Cursed Skull once. I kept having a skill issue and the 50/50 chance to get a full soul heart on critical health while holding the skull didn't really save my run that well. I got lucky on the first teleport, but after that, I got teleported out without gaining a soul heart. My run was doomed.
@levichicwown9760 Like I said, this is literally the only time the item was ever useful in almost a thousand hours of play-time. I know it fucking sucks. But it's not "completely" useless.
Equality is actually really good if you pull it off with careful planning. When everything matches it will not only make all new drops double, but anything that was a single drop will turn into a double when you re-enter the room. As long as the items are doubled, they won't undo if you mess up the counts or swap/drop the trinket. Generally when my items are equal I leave all drops until the end to pick up. But it's usually best on early floors
Cursed skull had one utility in AB+, where you could use it as a safety net for Keeper since he had only 2 coin hearts to give you a chance to heal with a coin you left behind. Now it's completely useless.
Fun video, some things of note, I think the best possible use of cursed skull is after you beat the boss, you have a lot of hearts and you try to find the ultra secret room. I really liked that you had Paper Mario the Thousand Year Door music somewhere in the video, and thanks for the suggestion to get a snack it was what I needed.
Butter stan here. What the flip is it doing in the same tier as TRASH like broken remote and moms toenail I'm bouta to tweak out about the crying baby game. Butter is one of the best trinkets for rigging as if you get it an basically any reroll YOU guarantee some nutty game break / goofy items. A library / Restock shop (with how cheap some of the active items are) is such an insane thing with this item just move them all to secret room reroll then free win baybeeee It's like a way worse version of moving box but moving box is already insane for Isaac rigs so a watered down version should still be considered "good" this also has a really cool synergy with glass canon basically removing the down side an giving you a really powerful room clear option. If your a based Isaac fan you should agree any item that has rigging potential is S tier (butter is probably around "cool I guess" cause its kinda situational but still what da flip is it doing in trash tier)
About broken remote: honestly with a bad run that has a no charge active that trinkets op With a no charge active like ventricle razor you can just go in any room or just skip the floor entirely to go to the boss or maybe get secret rooms! I won my first blue baby run with it a while ago in afterbirth so id say it shouldn't be the bottom tier as it can be used with specific conditions
Good visuals although low quality-ish black text on basement floor is hard to read, W opinions for the most part & kept it concise. Im gonna say it, this is a certified Isaac community classic. Looking forward to the 12 hour items tierlist :)
Ay appreciate it! Yea from what I've learned everyone loves a good list of things lmao so I'm hopeful it'll do well but I'm just happy I finally got it out, I worked way too long on all of this lmao
2 interesting cases: With butter and damocles, dropping the active spawns a new item, this plus any 0 charge active like how to jump is literally infinite items. With the blue key, you can do that thing where you get close enough to a door to interact but not actually go in, open it, drop the trinket, and scam the door open
Thank you for taking the time to show and describe the item’s effect. Most RUclipsrs do not bother to do this for Isaac tier lists, despite being sorely needed.
One thing to note about Sigil Of Baphomet is that the shield cant actually stack forever, it has a max cap of 5 seconds. But killing an enemy with 4 seconds does bring it back to 5 seconds. It is effectively infinite shield (equal to the enemies in the room), But if you use something like a death card on a room of flies like in your example then you will only get 5 seconds max and not 20 like you stated, that however does not mean that it isn't the fucking GOAT of all trinkets lmao.
Im late to the party but #103 "equality!" is probably one of the best trinkets if you get it early, once you know how it works and how you can minmax with it you will get stacked in pickups before You Even Fight Mom's Foot
Sigil of Baphomet absoutely deserves its placement, but if I recall correctly the stored invulnerability caps out at 5 seconds, so clearing a swarm of flies or something won't net you 20s as you say in the video. Still 10/10 trinket and it doesn't change its placement, just a minor thing to note.
Child's leash is pretty good with lillith if you use it correctly. It can also help with dry baby by keeping him near you so you have something that tanks damage closer to you.
Mysterious Candy actually procs it's effect every 30 seconds, so it's not half bad. Granted it's still in whatever, but it can really give you emergency bridges or poop drops, etc.
ok ur seriously underrating brain worm since it effectively is a better version of homing tears which can really carry you in a game since if you just aim in the general direction of the enemies then it will almost always hit, but other than that and a few minor overlooks this list is quite solid
1:21:29 Matt, not offended or anything, but I tought I might add some info about the Crow's heart: It pairs very well with Multiple Bone hearts, since the red heart damage will be taken out first. Character like Tainted Magdalene or The Forgotten get the keep their Bone hearts for a lot longer, while normal characters get to have more than one heart to protect their deal chance (if owning multiple bone hearts)
Very good video, i played isaac for a very long time, but I never remember trinkets effect and since I play on switch on don't want to look at the wiki everytime.. This video will surely change improve my wins so thanks!
believe it or not but broken remote can break the game if you have an infinite use active (like guppy's paw), since you can just keep teleporting across a whole floor until you've every special room. probably the most boring and tedious way to break a run, but it can break one nonetheless
Daemon's Tail slander on God- it turns most heart drops into keys which are way more useful than the red hearts you'd be finding instead and then also turns _literally every heart that actually drops into a black heart_ (except for in secret rooms that also turn every heart into a specific type). It's a "WE WON" early and mid game and "yoo that's pretty good" late game. Plus with Ace of Hearts it lets you black heart bomb your way through like 2 floors if you really wanted to Edit: Ok literally same reasoning you gave to put Mom's Pearl a tier higher except it pays out twice as often with the better heart type _and_ gives you extra keys to boot. What the hell
11:20 I'm not sure i understand the point of red hearts being less important late game? sure there's nothing to trade them to unless you get really lucky but red heart containers are generally a lot easier to refil than it is to get new soul hearts imo, unless you have items that help with the latter which you don't always. also red hearts in late game lose one of their main downsides in early game: it no longer matters if you take red heart damage once you get to the point where devil/angel deals no longer spawn naturally.
The daemons tail (probably) works by reducing red heart drops but if you get a red heart drop it changes it to black heart, its also very busted with the 3 skull gambling minigame because ALL hearts he drops wil be black
I would bump up Gulped Penny, the usefulness in early shops is very strong, you can recycle a lot of red hearts potentially, by having early coins in the run you boost the chance for arcades to appear which mean even more coins at the expense of red hearts... and all of that is boosted even more in greed mode.
Overall a great tier list, but I highly disagree with the left hand not being top tier. The cons the left hand offers is 100% worth it for not only a potential guppy, but the amount of soul hearts it offers which is nuts
I love how well formulated this is! In a way, seeing a tier list presented like this with a kind of rubric makes it kinda feel offical! Will you do the same with items? if you do, would synergies be taken in account or would it just be the items raw power by itself?
I'm scared to even think about an item tier list lmao this trinket one took so long to make and there are like 5x as many items as there are trinkets 💀 I'm sure I will eventually tho lol so when I do yea I'll probably take something like that into account
@@AnotherMattPlayingIsaac i feel like thatd definitely would have to be split into parts like Rebirth/AB/Ab+/Rep, and maybe after the issac online beta releases since its most likely going to release with a patch, so your list doesn't get out dated
i think it'd be interesting to see how some of the money based trinkets stack up when playing fiend folio since shops are much more prevalent what with shop chests and store whistle. great video as is though, interesting analysis!
oh i just mean that shop only appear on chapter 3 and not chapter 4 (the womb) so you don't have as many shops when you compare it to 'early game' (chapters 1 and 2)
I think you're underating mysterious candy, it gives you infinite money, red and soul hearts, it essentially is an instant win early and mid, and infinite health late game if you want to min-max the item. Essentially a one trinket game break
one thing to note with devil's crown is that you can take both the normal AND blind item in alt path. It's especially useful in the ascent path because the blind devil deals are now revealed, and hopefully by this point you have more hearts to take on those devil deals. It's obviously useful all the way until home if you did take the deals, but you can obviously switch out the trinket if the item rooms are all already transformed.
I think you really underrated the left hand in the mid to late game, having a chance to get soul hearts and deal teleports instead of pickups is a REALLY good trade off
12:18 Have to disagree with 'Paper Clip' being (it's whatever) to at least a tier higher. I honestly ended up in situations where in the Dark Room/Chest floor I had chests appearing, but lacked keys to unlock them. Heck, I even couldn't unlock the starter 4 at the time, so me getting Paper Clip was like a blessing, but that's a rare situations but did happen, lol. And I'm a full floor clearer type of player, and even then got screwed by no keys dropping. Overall, it is your opinion - I love your ranking and mostly agree with you. Although would have been great to have another ranking based on how much beneficial/dependent for the specific set of characters. You basically don't drop Swallowed Penny as Greed / Tainted Greed, this is a "WE WON" trinket for them. Don't know, if you read this comment or not, but regardless, I wish you the best and a solid video, comrade. 💜
I don't like rosary bead because the key pieces also buff angel chance while not taking up a trinket slot, while also giving you more chance for eternal hearts. Even if you aren't going for mega satan or playing something like apollyon the key pieces are still really good to have because they're a decent reward with fairly little effort
22:08 this one is insane in greed mode; basically free magic mush for all floors (apart from ultra greedier) 30:14 one item, scapular, otherwise yeah it’s trash
I don’t know on how you can say maggys faith is “cool I guess” you can get so much benefits from it that it should probably be in we won imagine getting 1 free health per floor
Swallowed penny should be higher, it's crazy to say "it's whatever", it allows you to buy things you may not be able to otherwise and that can have a huge impact on your power level. Having a strong build will trivialize most of the late game, and this trinket helps with that.
Hey the background music (at least at the beginning I just started watching) is make a move by nelward!! :D that's so cool I didn't expect to hear a song made by nelward in this lol
ive used crow's heart to esentially protect my soul hearts for the next floor after i already kill the boss, and then smuggle it. pretty okay but i wouldnt say its much better than where you put it
7:52 one small note on store credit, and not a good one. if you take pound of flesh, store credit stops working at all. it still doesn't count for devil deals and it stops working in shops as well. i was pretty bummed to discover that, i feel like that should be a trick that works with pound of flesh.
Equality is decent actually. You can double the pickups for an entire floor (just wait until you full clear to grab pickups so you can keep doubling for the entire floor). It’s good if you save all pickups for last
18:59 could be useful with Ludovico and technically increases your range, since faster bullets will fly further before falling, but it's mostly not that significant
a small argument id make for a lot of the on hit items. yes, for the most part you are right. however, tainted maggy exists and thrives off so many of these. red patch on her can be really nasty on bosses. thats about it for my argument
The main use i found for 103° "Equality!" is in greedier mode. If you force to be always in 0 coins, 0 bombs and 0 keys then you get x2 coins in the floor, you spent all so as you return to the 000 and continue like that.
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Swallow penny ranking is criminal, that shit is op af. It always drops a coin, and that coin can be dime or nickel and sometimes a lucky penny. When you get an arcade you can basically grantee you pay out all the machine and beggers. Not to mention d20 game breaks that are some times possible.
Although i agreed it useless late game, but early and mid game basically a free win if you use it right.
Swallowed Penny isnt op. I dont see how you'd get a full arcade pay out with just Swallowed Penny (besides maybe a blood donation bank (which Blood Donation Banks are op af, I will give you that). Breaking the game with d20 is free and definetly doesnt require swallowed penny just d20 plus anything that drops pick-ups does the trick.
This FR Swallowed Penny atleast deserved to be in cool i guess tier for these reasons:
1. It's a godsend on playing the Keepers it's so busted on them it had to be nerfed to only be a chance.
2. It has a high chance to appear early game due to dropping from pots (A 2.5% chance per pot broken compared to Petrified Poops 0.5% though you break more poops than pots so you might see it more) which are usually on the basement, like petrified poop another really strong trinket in the cool tier.
3. Blood banks become even more powerful than they already are, doubling the amount of money you make from them.
4. The chance to see a blood bank goes up, because you can save up enough money early to get an arcade to spawn.
5. ANYTHING that requires taking damage gives you a slight benefit that can add up over a run (Sac rooms, Cursed rooms, Spiked Chests).
I will concede that late game when you no longer have shops it is no longer useful but has a similar falloff to petrified poop because by the time you stop seeing shops is the same time you stop seeing poop on floors.
39. Cancer: you missed the part where it breaks the tear cap beign even more valuable than curved horn in the late game since your DPS Will likely be Better with cancer than with curved horn.
As an Isaac veteran the horn vs cancer was a huge discussion in the community since wrath of the lamb
It got changed in Repentance, I checked the wiki. Unfortunate but it got nerfed and now it's +1.0 fire rate sadly.
Wait, so it doesn't break the cap or what was the nerf??
@@newto2794 Unfortunately yeah, they changed it from -2 tear delay to +1.0 tears. I was shocked myself and also thought it still breaks the cap but I just checked it today and I feel like my existence is a lie. XD
@@newto2794 Wait mb they changed how breaking the cap works and now pluses to fire rate (not tears) break the cap. It now breaks the cap by one instead of two. Sorry for being an idiot. Don't know why Ed changed it but yeah it's weird.
I'm pretty sure it's because the cap is now higher, I had a break from Isaac and just recently got into Repentance, sorry for being a bozo.
"mid game : swallowed penny is whatever"
tainted keeper honest reaction:
Yeah honestly this video starts off with bs right away. How tf is Swallowed Penny worse than Petrified Poop? Sure you don't want to take damage and should always imply a perfect player when ranking stuff... But how many high poop seeds are there actually? Chances are you get Petrified Poop in Basement and maybe two coins from the five poops you encounter. And then never encounter much poop ever again except for red poop in Super Secret Rooms/Womb. Card against humanity is very rare you can't bet on getting it.
Swallowed Penny, there are plenty of instances where taking damage is still worth it, like Blood Donation Machines, chests/pickups behind spikes...you can allow yourself to get hit to make it for a Shop Item...Swallowed Penny is good you can turn your spare hearts into coin and ensure your shop buy every floor.
Petrified Poop only really works with other Poop synergy items. Otherwise weak trinket.
@@madness9651 whole ass essay jesus cheist
@@anzorunono4967 You can break the game with Infinite Stores, IV bag, high luck and enough pickup spawn items like Swallowed Penny, Piggy Bank, Habit, Dark bum, Bum friend, Bumbo, etc. If you get Soul Converter and Potaoe Peeler you can make infinite Super Meat Boys.
The on-damage spawn pickups stuff is all completely broken and can so easily be exploited with cheap store item builds that you just shouldn't underrate them.
@@madness9651because swallowed penny is situational. For keeper and keeper is must have. For lost, t.lost and any other character without red hearts it is almost useless. Petrified poop is better for every character either by giving soul hearts, hearts and money. Idk man, I love swallowed penny but not every time
@@cumcumcum148 Complete Bullshit. You want to avoid damage from enemies, but there are plenty of instances where you can trade self-damage for value, and unless you are going for Hush/Boss Rush you should do so every time. Always trade in your spare Red Hearts from the map to the Blood Donation Machine, Devil Beggars or Curse Rooms, then there are Items like Piggy Bank or Habit that synergyze incredible well.
Blood Donation Machine is particularly broken and gives you tons of cheap HP ups that you can then trade in for Devil Deals.
Habit+Schoolbag+IV Bag+Converter+Infinite Stores+Chaos+Potatoe Peeler and enough Luck is infinite Money+Infinite Hearts and INFINITE ITEMS and INFINITE SUPER MEAT BOYS...with a store item combo. Had a Cain run lately where I broke the game, then accidentally fell down an Ehwaz traphole and finished with no Completion Mark due to not getting Polaroid/Negative.
Sorry but you just didn't seem to have realized the way to play this game. Swallowed Penny is top tier trinket for any character except The Lost and Judas before he gets an HP up.
1:18:20
About “Equality!”
You get your pickups to all be equal… and then you clear the whole floor without picking up any more stuff. And then you go pick it all up at once, now that it’s all doubled.
It’s saved more than one of my runs before. It just requires a lot of fudging and minmaxing to get it to work for you.
I wanted to say the same thing! In my opinion it is pretty good early game but quickly becomes more useless as the game progreses
it's busted with tainted keeper, I haven't used it on greed mode but I'm guessing it's great there too, also good early game
I always thought that the moment your pickup number changes from the equal one, all of the doubled pickups revert to their base versions :O
I've managed to do this once in like, 1500 hours of play but the one time I did it saved the run lol. Went from worst trinket NA to being pretty cool and good, even if it is HIIIIGHLY situational.
@@hellogoato my man put this thing under mom's toenail
48:08 LazyMattMan Slander found, collab lost, channel in shambles + L + Bozo + Stomped by Mom's Toenail effect (I did enjoy the video, thank you for making this list!)
Cancel him
Stomped by moms toenail effect💀
Stepped on by mommy
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The jokes write themselves 💀@@guestbard9677
#107 "Crow Heart"
You are not forced to hold this trinket. You can just drop it, full clear, pick it up and use on curse room without hurting your soul hearts or sacrifice room which might turn all of red hearts on the floor into an angel item potentialy. It is not much but definitely not completly useless
Its also very useful for the forgotten or with bone hearts in general since you don't need to worry about losing your devil chance with bone hearts.
S*** I never considered just hauling a double edged trinket between floors and dropping it while I actually did the floor. That's such a good idea
Crow heart smuggling @@iamthehobo
You really should have added a "sucks, but synergy" tier.
Broken Teleport can be pretty amazing with the right active item.
And I also had runs where stuff like Whip Worm has actually been really useful.
Looking for this; Broken remote + any no charge item (which there are a good deal of) = infinite teleports!
This means you can escape dangerous situations, get in and out of any locked room for free, and even skip to the end of every floor with just a few clicks.
I agree, sometimes I get triple A and it ends up allowing me to clear rooms pretty quick with no damage. Even though most of the time I'll happily swap it out for something better
Black lipstick doesn't turn red hearts into black hearts, it turns soul hearts into black hearts. bottom tier L trinket bad stinky poo poo
shit, i knew there would be a few I messed up lmao - I agree bad stinky poopoo
@@AnotherMattPlayingIsaac you didn't messed up black lipstick doubles the amount of black heart appearing
It also makes it so that soul hearts spawn less, so it's a double negative.
@@AnotherMattPlayingIsaacwhere's the Boss tir list?
@@oneblacksun but black hearts are like a better soul heart
Swallowed Penny placement made me wanna rip my eyes out, pls reconsider this man.. (Seriously that thing is op af and can make your runs easily, if utilized properly)
Swallowed penny is very eh. 1 coin per time your hit isnt very good, gives at most (not accounting healing) 24 coins. Which is 1-3 shop items, which are mediocre most of the time. Swallowed penny's greatest strength is being moderately common (bombing pots) and giving a 50% (?) chance to also drop a coin as Keeper.
game breaks with swallowed penny+ refresh+ iv bag with a 3 cent heart in the shop
@@mitch5944most things can allow you to break with he right setup doesn't mean its super op tho
Its alright
It's really good for blood donated machine.
As a vehement hater of Mom's toenail, I have one small defense of it.
If you use it with gnawed leaf, you could afk most rooms/bosses, granted, it'll take an eternity, but if it's golden or if you have mom's box it becomes decently better.
Combine this with even a weak orbital and you might just have yourself a run winner
That is an actuall good use well done.
I literally use this item to fight bosses all the time, I was so confused when he called it useless because I always watch the timer and time when the foot it coming down especially early game, I count it as a quick boss killer everytime I see it early
Not Hush
Didn't know you were so good at the game Hush counts as an early game boss for you@@chainsawplayin
An important note for door stop is that if you are playing the lost, or you just luckily got holy mantle, you can use it to leave a room upon getting hit to basically retry the room without death looming over you
Cain's eye is really good though, it scales with luck so at 3 luck it has a 100% chance of occuring if I recall correctly.
So nat 1% on 0 luck or is it just a high chance that's basically a coin flip on giving you room locations?
@@Octo_0687Starts with 25% at 0 luck and adds an additional 25% per point of luck, so 50% at 1 luck, 75% at 2, and 100% at 3.
@@Rockoll Ah, at first I thought every extra luck would add 33% to the chance of having Cain's Other Eye procing and showing riom locations.
filigree feather is not useless in late game, there are quite a few ways you can fight an angel after not being able to get angel deals organically
That requires luck, you'd need a sacrificial room, a dark chest or a joker card, so you might as well replace it when a better option becomes available
@@ciranopunalesvigliarolo3788there's also a Rare super secret room layout with an angel and 3 blue hearts, as well as most notable in the form of stairway
@@ciranopunalesvigliarolo3788 or stairway
@@ciranopunalesvigliarolo3788stairway and secret rooms can have can have angel statues so, pretty well worth to bring along if you don’t have anything better
@@ciranopunalesvigliarolo3788There are secret room variants that spawn angel statues too
Good list. Overlooked the power of dropping trinkets in the first room of a floor and only picking it up when you need it.
This makes a lot of situational trinkets good, for ex the cursed trinkets
bob's bladder is actually surprisingly good early-mid game imo, the puddle of creep does INSANE dps (way more than the bomb itself) so if you push it into a boss that moves and the boss walks onto it it'll basically instantly kill them. its not too hard to use on a lot of bosses and i've been carried by it a few times. (i do have 2500 hours in the game. you got me)
Plus if you get mom's purse and find lost cork too? Good stuff
@@peco595 can't forget Mom's Box.
@@peco595 dude dude dude its actually so fucking goated in that scenario
like huge puddles that deal 23 damage PER FUCKING TICK is shnasty
Matt's bomb pushing skills that i learned coming in clutch 💪
Butter can be used to get more items from whatever item pool you want if you manage to find a reroll machine in said room (or if you place one with that one repentance card). Using the item will drop it, then you can reroll until you have something better. Super niche item usage, but game breaking potential.
Reverse Judgement I believe
umbilical cord is honestly underrated asf for some characters. Free familiar for non red heart characters is pretty cool ngl
truuuuuuuuuu
I can say that Ouroboros worm has niche use on Azazel, as it's basically just free regular Brimstone that's only slightly harder to hit
I think overall this list is really good but broken remote can force you to go into any room with no error room chance if you're using an infinite use active item. This includes secret rooms, shops, treasure rooms, planetariums, libraries, bedrooms, secret rooms, challenge rooms, and there's probably more im forgetting. It also allows itself to be used as a panic option for the lost, as on teleport your mantle will recharge.
No error room chance?
No
This is also a great way to learn what every trinket does lol
or yknow you can just use external item descriptions like a normal person
@@costa8509 you cant do that on console
@@costa8509 this is more fun
@@costa8509console players:
I remember picking up expansion pack and when i used the d6 to reroll a boss item i ended up getting metronome which in turn used the d100 effect which made me want to sacrifice room IRL, have not picked it up since.
i don't think expansion pack can proc the d100 effect though, from what I looked into it only uses active items that have 2 charges or less buuuuuuut I may have read it incorrectly 🤔
@@AnotherMattPlayingIsaac yeah when it rerolled my items I was astonished and started to look into it. Apparently the only way for this to happen is from a use of metronome as I found a couple instances of people using a item with expansion pack and it activating metronome which then uses other items like death certificate or in my case d100.
PS: Fuck d100
@@sleepysloothz442 oh my God lmao I didn't even think of that, that's fuckin unlucky LMAO
you know store credit does work on devil deals as keeper cause he has to pay his deals in coin
Love the list! I’ll toss in my defense for Gigante Bean: There are an overabundance of “meh”-tier farting items that become effective room-clearers with this item. I’d still not put it higher than “whatever” since it requires relevant items to be useful, but it’s great at opening up a different axis of combat.
Big fart = big funny
Crow Heart can be very useful. If you find it as the forgotten. Then it causes any damage to use up the red hearts and not your Bone Hearts. So you only loose the bone hearts after all red hearts and greatly reduce the risk of losing devil chance
30:20 for cursed skull, there was one very specific instance where cursed skull actually helped me.
This was back when I was still a beginner Isaac player and hadn't beaten mum yet. So I happened upon this trinket alongside Scapular, which gives you a free soul heart when you're reduced to half a heart. Which means every time mum kicks me, I lose my soul heart, get teleported out, and get a new soul heart. Making me practically invincible.
It is an incredibly nieche scenario, but the item is not completely useless.
My Cursed Skull experience was completely different. I had Gimpy with Cursed Skull once. I kept having a skill issue and the 50/50 chance to get a full soul heart on critical health while holding the skull didn't really save my run that well. I got lucky on the first teleport, but after that, I got teleported out without gaining a soul heart.
My run was doomed.
@levichicwown9760 Like I said, this is literally the only time the item was ever useful in almost a thousand hours of play-time. I know it fucking sucks. But it's not "completely" useless.
Equality is actually really good if you pull it off with careful planning. When everything matches it will not only make all new drops double, but anything that was a single drop will turn into a double when you re-enter the room. As long as the items are doubled, they won't undo if you mess up the counts or swap/drop the trinket.
Generally when my items are equal I leave all drops until the end to pick up. But it's usually best on early floors
Cursed skull had one utility in AB+, where you could use it as a safety net for Keeper since he had only 2 coin hearts to give you a chance to heal with a coin you left behind. Now it's completely useless.
Fun video, some things of note, I think the best possible use of cursed skull is after you beat the boss, you have a lot of hearts and you try to find the ultra secret room. I really liked that you had Paper Mario the Thousand Year Door music somewhere in the video, and thanks for the suggestion to get a snack it was what I needed.
Butter stan here.
What the flip is it doing in the same tier as TRASH like broken remote and moms toenail I'm bouta to tweak out about the crying baby game.
Butter is one of the best trinkets for rigging as if you get it an basically any reroll YOU guarantee some nutty game break / goofy items.
A library / Restock shop (with how cheap some of the active items are) is such an insane thing with this item just move them all to secret room reroll then free win baybeeee
It's like a way worse version of moving box but moving box is already insane for Isaac rigs so a watered down version should still be considered "good"
this also has a really cool synergy with glass canon basically removing the down side an giving you a really powerful room clear option.
If your a based Isaac fan you should agree any item that has rigging potential is S tier (butter is probably around "cool I guess" cause its kinda situational but still what da flip is it doing in trash tier)
I love long tierlist videos, especially when like the person makes a case for each of them, great content
My man also shows love for my favorite trinket (Modeling Clay)
So sick that Modelling Clay got upgraded to a regular item in Four Souls. Definetly deserves it.
About broken remote: honestly with a bad run that has a no charge active that trinkets op
With a no charge active like ventricle razor you can just go in any room or just skip the floor entirely to go to the boss or maybe get secret rooms!
I won my first blue baby run with it a while ago in afterbirth so id say it shouldn't be the bottom tier as it can be used with specific conditions
Good visuals although low quality-ish black text on basement floor is hard to read, W opinions for the most part & kept it concise.
Im gonna say it, this is a certified Isaac community classic. Looking forward to the 12 hour items tierlist :)
I'm terrified to even start making it lmao 💀💀💀
@@AnotherMattPlayingIsaacdo it u won't
You can't go wrong with a tier list and you have a great and unique visual support in the form of an excel, hope it helps you channel to grow!
Ay appreciate it! Yea from what I've learned everyone loves a good list of things lmao so I'm hopeful it'll do well but I'm just happy I finally got it out, I worked way too long on all of this lmao
Yeah and I think others will agree that it's a delight to see your videos and unlike many , it's watchable more than once@@AnotherMattPlayingIsaac
lmao we gotta get that return viewership 😎
2 interesting cases:
With butter and damocles, dropping the active spawns a new item, this plus any 0 charge active like how to jump is literally infinite items.
With the blue key, you can do that thing where you get close enough to a door to interact but not actually go in, open it, drop the trinket, and scam the door open
you not being able to hit things with high shot speed is a skill issue
that whip worm ranking is criminal
29:50 42 lucky toe also increases the chance for room clear rewards to spawn by 8%
Thank you for taking the time to show and describe the item’s effect. Most RUclipsrs do not bother to do this for Isaac tier lists, despite being sorely needed.
Agreed. How RUclipsrs don’t see that it’s necessary is beyond me
One thing to note about Sigil Of Baphomet is that the shield cant actually stack forever, it has a max cap of 5 seconds. But killing an enemy with 4 seconds does bring it back to 5 seconds. It is effectively infinite shield (equal to the enemies in the room), But if you use something like a death card on a room of flies like in your example then you will only get 5 seconds max and not 20 like you stated, that however does not mean that it isn't the fucking GOAT of all trinkets lmao.
Im late to the party but #103 "equality!" is probably one of the best trinkets if you get it early, once you know how it works and how you can minmax with it you will get stacked in pickups before You Even Fight Mom's Foot
Sigil of Baphomet absoutely deserves its placement, but if I recall correctly the stored invulnerability caps out at 5 seconds, so clearing a swarm of flies or something won't net you 20s as you say in the video. Still 10/10 trinket and it doesn't change its placement, just a minor thing to note.
Child's leash is pretty good with lillith if you use it correctly. It can also help with dry baby by keeping him near you so you have something that tanks damage closer to you.
2:21:40 Can confirm, Expansion pack cannot use C-section
Mysterious Candy actually procs it's effect every 30 seconds, so it's not half bad. Granted it's still in whatever, but it can really give you emergency bridges or poop drops, etc.
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ok ur seriously underrating brain worm since it effectively is a better version of homing tears which can really carry you in a game since if you just aim in the general direction of the enemies then it will almost always hit, but other than that and a few minor overlooks this list is quite solid
1:21:29 Matt, not offended or anything, but I tought I might add some info about the Crow's heart: It pairs very well with Multiple Bone hearts, since the red heart damage will be taken out first. Character like Tainted Magdalene or The Forgotten get the keep their Bone hearts for a lot longer, while normal characters get to have more than one heart to protect their deal chance (if owning multiple bone hearts)
Very good video, i played isaac for a very long time, but I never remember trinkets effect and since I play on switch on don't want to look at the wiki everytime.. This video will surely change improve my wins so thanks!
believe it or not but broken remote can break the game if you have an infinite use active (like guppy's paw), since you can just keep teleporting across a whole floor until you've every special room. probably the most boring and tedious way to break a run, but it can break one nonetheless
Daemon's Tail slander on God- it turns most heart drops into keys which are way more useful than the red hearts you'd be finding instead and then also turns _literally every heart that actually drops into a black heart_ (except for in secret rooms that also turn every heart into a specific type). It's a "WE WON" early and mid game and "yoo that's pretty good" late game. Plus with Ace of Hearts it lets you black heart bomb your way through like 2 floors if you really wanted to
Edit: Ok literally same reasoning you gave to put Mom's Pearl a tier higher except it pays out twice as often with the better heart type _and_ gives you extra keys to boot. What the hell
friendship necklace is good when you have a bunch of familiar, especially familiars that can block shots
For equality you can just not pick up the double coins, bombs, and keys until the end of the floor and all of them will be double
11:20 I'm not sure i understand the point of red hearts being less important late game? sure there's nothing to trade them to unless you get really lucky but red heart containers are generally a lot easier to refil than it is to get new soul hearts imo, unless you have items that help with the latter which you don't always.
also red hearts in late game lose one of their main downsides in early game: it no longer matters if you take red heart damage once you get to the point where devil/angel deals no longer spawn naturally.
Been waiting on this one for what feels like so long now (even though it’s only been a day or two) 10 mins in and I know it’s gonna be a banger
On an tainted keeper greedier run, I had umbilical cord. I got 8 Geminis.
Bruh 💀
Tick is pretty goated, it drains a lot of HP from late game bosses like Beast or Delirium, one of my favorites tbh.
The daemons tail (probably) works by reducing red heart drops but if you get a red heart drop it changes it to black heart, its also very busted with the 3 skull gambling minigame because ALL hearts he drops wil be black
Ace of Hearts with Daemon's Tail is downright silly
it is downright silly
I would bump up Gulped Penny, the usefulness in early shops is very strong, you can recycle a lot of red hearts potentially, by having early coins in the run you boost the chance for arcades to appear which mean even more coins at the expense of red hearts... and all of that is boosted even more in greed mode.
Dang I love an in depth list. Gonna finish listening to this at work tomorrow lol.
Overall a great tier list, but I highly disagree with the left hand not being top tier. The cons the left hand offers is 100% worth it for not only a potential guppy, but the amount of soul hearts it offers which is nuts
"You don't want a lot of shot speed". Man you ever fought the mask of infamy with low shot speed?
It''s the one single reason why i've never picked up eve's mascara ever again.
Luck issue just never encounter mask of infamy
Amazing video. It’s like I’m viewing the wiki as an animated gallery
Do you not take bossfights into account at all? Isaacs fork carried me through delirium. Samsons lock flattens bosses that spawn enemies like Hush
I love how well formulated this is! In a way, seeing a tier list presented like this with a kind of rubric makes it kinda feel offical! Will you do the same with items? if you do, would synergies be taken in account or would it just be the items raw power by itself?
I'm scared to even think about an item tier list lmao this trinket one took so long to make and there are like 5x as many items as there are trinkets 💀 I'm sure I will eventually tho lol so when I do yea I'll probably take something like that into account
@@AnotherMattPlayingIsaac i feel like thatd definitely would have to be split into parts like Rebirth/AB/Ab+/Rep, and maybe after the issac online beta releases since its most likely going to release with a patch, so your list doesn't get out dated
i think it'd be interesting to see how some of the money based trinkets stack up when playing fiend folio since shops are much more prevalent what with shop chests and store whistle. great video as is though, interesting analysis!
When you were talking about swallowed penny, what do you mean by "you get fewer shops mid game"?
oh i just mean that shop only appear on chapter 3 and not chapter 4 (the womb) so you don't have as many shops when you compare it to 'early game' (chapters 1 and 2)
@@AnotherMattPlayingIsaac o OK 👍
28:44 “I am a bomb advocate”
Me too man me too
Pay to win - causes restock machines to always spawn in treasure rooms
Me with pay to win - "where restock ?"
37:51 wait yo i just realized isnt that bg music from the scott pilgrim game?
I think you're underating mysterious candy, it gives you infinite money, red and soul hearts, it essentially is an instant win early and mid, and infinite health late game if you want to min-max the item. Essentially a one trinket game break
Pulse worm actually does have 1 use and that's that it works with godhead aura making it even better
Haven't watched the video yet but I trust you Matt, 10/10 perfect takes
LMAO thanks for your blind trust :)
one thing to note with devil's crown is that you can take both the normal AND blind item in alt path. It's especially useful in the ascent path because the blind devil deals are now revealed, and hopefully by this point you have more hearts to take on those devil deals. It's obviously useful all the way until home if you did take the deals, but you can obviously switch out the trinket if the item rooms are all already transformed.
I think you really underrated the left hand in the mid to late game, having a chance to get soul hearts and deal teleports instead of pickups is a REALLY good trade off
12:18
Have to disagree with 'Paper Clip' being (it's whatever) to at least a tier higher.
I honestly ended up in situations where in the Dark Room/Chest floor I had chests appearing, but lacked keys to unlock them. Heck, I even couldn't unlock the starter 4 at the time, so me getting Paper Clip was like a blessing, but that's a rare situations but did happen, lol. And I'm a full floor clearer type of player, and even then got screwed by no keys dropping.
Overall, it is your opinion - I love your ranking and mostly agree with you. Although would have been great to have another ranking based on how much beneficial/dependent for the specific set of characters. You basically don't drop Swallowed Penny as Greed / Tainted Greed, this is a "WE WON" trinket for them.
Don't know, if you read this comment or not, but regardless, I wish you the best and a solid video, comrade. 💜
great quality video, i can only imagine how long it took to make. great video 💙💙
I don't like rosary bead because the key pieces also buff angel chance while not taking up a trinket slot, while also giving you more chance for eternal hearts. Even if you aren't going for mega satan or playing something like apollyon the key pieces are still really good to have because they're a decent reward with fairly little effort
22:08 this one is insane in greed mode; basically free magic mush for all floors (apart from ultra greedier)
30:14 one item, scapular, otherwise yeah it’s trash
Watching this at work. gonna make my shift so much better
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I don’t know on how you can say maggys faith is “cool I guess” you can get so much benefits from it that it should probably be in we won imagine getting 1 free health per floor
Swallowed penny should be higher, it's crazy to say "it's whatever", it allows you to buy things you may not be able to otherwise and that can have a huge impact on your power level.
Having a strong build will trivialize most of the late game, and this trinket helps with that.
Hey the background music (at least at the beginning I just started watching) is make a move by nelward!! :D that's so cool I didn't expect to hear a song made by nelward in this lol
15:31 when you're unlocking something specifically, it's useless, but on t Lost is very good
Mom’s Toenail is a useful training tool for preparing yourself for the broken shovel challenge to unlock the forgotten.
The dedication to sit through this must be immeasurable. Loved the video tho!
ive used crow's heart to esentially protect my soul hearts for the next floor after i already kill the boss, and then smuggle it. pretty okay but i wouldnt say its much better than where you put it
Mothers kiss on tainted keepre and normal keeper is really nice, since getting an additional hp container on these characters are hard to come by
7:52 one small note on store credit, and not a good one. if you take pound of flesh, store credit stops working at all. it still doesn't count for devil deals and it stops working in shops as well.
i was pretty bummed to discover that, i feel like that should be a trick that works with pound of flesh.
I didn’t even realize how long the video was until about halfway through 😭 very cool video though :))
Actualy Gigante Bean also works on the spread from Contagion making it basiacly a guarantee in a normal room.
Great vid! Id love to see the top tier/your favs get sorted again by ease of unlock, some absolutely goated trinkets are a real pain to unlock
Equality is decent actually. You can double the pickups for an entire floor (just wait until you full clear to grab pickups so you can keep doubling for the entire floor). It’s good if you save all pickups for last
Wouldn't store credit also work in The Stairway? I haven't actually attempted to try
i'm actually not sure. Actually I'm not sure if it would work if you have pound of flesh either
Technically the stairway creates a shop under a different item pool so it could work but I could definitely be wrong
53:00 Please, what song is this, please help 🙏
18:59 could be useful with Ludovico and technically increases your range, since faster bullets will fly further before falling, but it's mostly not that significant
a small argument id make for a lot of the on hit items. yes, for the most part you are right. however, tainted maggy exists and thrives off so many of these. red patch on her can be really nasty on bosses. thats about it for my argument
oh my what a polished vid. thanks, really appreciate the effort
also 1:07:10 minor spelling mistake, skeleton divine death blast
ay appreciate it! Thanks for watchin :)
And yeaaa i made so many spelling mistakes while making it lmao
Myosotis is underrated, unused red hearts are brought down to use on sac rooms or blood donos.
good to see this video out, you know damn well im watching all of it
Also dingle berry charmes all the enemy dips so its pratically dirty mind but in a trinket
The main use i found for 103° "Equality!" is in greedier mode. If you force to be always in 0 coins, 0 bombs and 0 keys then you get x2 coins in the floor, you spent all so as you return to the 000 and continue like that.