not a fan of vettes, but I love looking at exoskeletons of vehicles. One question I have, how easy is maintenance going to be on the engine/transmission? It looks like it's going to be buried like hell with everything installed.
Yep, as I mentioned a while back in one of your live streams, the C8 still has a tunnel for structure, thus the door rockers can be lower allowing easier entry and exit! Thanks!
The Lotus Esprit's excellent handling came from just such a tunnel/backbone running down the center of the car. GM owned Lotus for awhile. This chassis reminds me of the Esprit.
Would this also lend itself to the possibility of an all wheel drive system of some type? Either space for a drive shaft, or batteries for a front mounted electric motor?
Would be nice if CG11 kind of knew anything about what he was trying to describe. Nice color valve covers. The center tunnel chassis design goes back to Colin Chapman's '60s Lotus Elan.
@@kerrylittle3900 ...best of luck and happy motoring...if l could afford one I'd get it in metallic silver , tan / red interior with the performance package..
@@tedmalley7636 Thanks mate. Hope to have it by spring time. With the Z51 package with the performance tires you cant run them when its below freezing. Heard they can crack. Its winter here now so it would have been in storage for several months anyways. I have climate controlled garages so I am letting a good friend of mine store his 2019 Grand Sport over the winter in one of them. He left me the keys too, ha ha. But I wouldn't dare. He has those run flat performance tires on his too. But at least I can go out and look at it. LOL.
@@kerrylittle3900 ..I understand Canadian winter's aren't kind to any car...I'm eager to see the intro of the AWD , Twin turbo hybrid "Zora" spec...at 985 HP it should make mince meat of just about any Ferrari (still at less than half price)...
@@jimbeam4111 Not really. Minimal parts being shipped over seas. Also....no ridiculous mark ups just for status like ferarri, Lamborghini, GTR, etc. I'd take a C8 over ANY exotic, japanese super car.
GM must be using the profit from sales of work trucks and fleet vehicles. The technology they use in Corvettes will usually trickle down ti other GM vehicles.
Since they did not include port injection with the direct injection, how did they address the carbon buildup on the intake valves which is a common problem with direct injection engines?
It appears that the rear area might be an area for some additional dynamat or heat shielfding to protect the trunk even more than did the factory application of heat protection from the trunk. How much heat can be redirected in of course unknown as yet.
@@CarGuy11 True. But the backbone won't twist and flex. I drive an '88 Fiero GT. And the backbone center console was perfect for the car's stability in the turns. And although vastly inferior to the new vette, Colin's design for his Lotus was the wise choice for Chevy.
Castings are cheap as chips to produce. Once you have the dies, you just bang that molten ally in them all day and hey presto - cheap, lightweight and most of all strong chassis members.
Man, do you know anything about Corvettes? I don't know if I misunderstood you or you just don't know what you are talking about. The ONLY Corvettes that did not have a high center console is the C1 & C2! The C8 console is right on par with the last few generations! The only big difference is the climate control bar, whatever you want to call it. FYI the center exhaust started on the C5. Why would the side exhaust be controversial? Up until you, I've not heard or seen anything talking about the location of the exhaust exit. How does it look like the engine is hooked around 180 degrees from the C7? If it were, it would be a transverse mounted engine. Meaning the engine exhaust and cylinders would be lined up left to right. It looks like and it is a longitudinal mounted engine as all Corvettes have been.
@@CarGuy11 Oh ok I see what you mean. You're talking about the transmission tunnel of the OLD style Corvettes. Gotcha. LMAO All front engine Corvettes are now the OLD style!
From a engineering perspective its a novel idea that could very well be superior to ALL other chassis design. The center spline and all other supporting structure leads into a TRIANGULATION design that is repeated throughout. Very interesting.
@@CarGuy11 Its enough space for a two seater sportscar, and if you notice the interior is a cockpit design to a extreme. GM has no problem incorporating new technology into their lineup that is world reknowned to a extreme. More than the most exotic companies, and i believe you are viewing one of these advancements. A bare bones C7 dosent have a chassis anywhere near this high tech. Look at each corner carefully, and you see structural Ribbing. I dont think i have seen it to this extreme before. This aluminum chassis is light years ahead of the last one.
@@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921 The C7 had same center tunnel & aluminum chassis. They needed the tunnel for torque tube in C7 & C8 uses an evolution of the C7 chassis which is why it still has the center tunnel. In my opinion, one of the best features of mid engine cars is the lack of center tunnel.
@@CarGuy11 heres my car i built. 1 lt Elkhart lake blue metallic sky cool grey interior added 500 worth of yellow on my brake calipers added 1195 for performance exhaust added 995 for carbon flash race stripes otherwise I did what Chevrolet wanted i got an attainable car with a couple coolmadd ons. 62,850 or something. but to be fair i have bought more than 1 or 2 cars from them.
congratulations ! you made the deal of your life and got a supercar for just over $60 k that's going to make $250k+ cars looks stupid! I guess Corvette won't be able to build as many units as they could potentially sell and would have customers for. I heard some dealers already had to turn customers away. the demand is just gigantic. and with good reason, it is the performance machine offering of the decade.
When you begin to fry the brakes with a Brake-By-Wire e-booster system, the smell is your really your only feedback, even if their pad temperature model is spot on (which would be impossible). If the brake temperatures are neglected for long enough (for example on track) and the fluid actually boils (rare but does happen) then the system will most likely (should) set a leak detection fault. Once a leak detection is set, we get nice things like circuit isolation and no boost. Cheers!
vaccuum boost was the same way. this system is being sold as a brake by wire, but that's really untrue. it's simply an electric over hydraulic assisted accumultator instead of a vaccuum accumulator.
Look at how they have done those heads with the intakes straighter than ever before! Amazing - there is still development to come. Certainly doesnt look like too much room for 2 cams per side on top.
Very nice, I do not like hoe the side intakes were designed, the 430 or 458 have much nicer design, but looking at your video I see that it could be very easy for aftermarket players to design plug and play side panels with different design. hope to see a lot of aftermarket parts for the car
I am just saying the cooling intakes from the 430 , 458 and even McLaren 570 are just more appealing, and by the looks of chassis, side panels are an easy replacement. Like old Porsches you will see many aftermarket players will come with innovative body designs , which is a great think for the Corvette owners. I have a GT3 and am seriously changing for this Corvette, car concept.
They hid all the problems they found in the year it was delayed. Too bad they settled the strike, they should have closed!!! Wheels cracking, not covered!!! Transmission slips and has harsh shifts, your problem not theirs. Torque converter shakes, not their problem it's yours. Overheating on Z06's, not their problem, it's yours etc etc etc sue the pricks!!! I did and won!!' Sued them over my Cadillac and won!!! Problems after problems and call GM and all you hear is were so sorry your having issues!!! Just sue them. Lemon law lawyer!! Get one one on speed dial!!!
Great upload. For the life of me I can't figure out why GM is not giving purchasers the option as to which tire they want. I would want the A/S Michelins with my Z51 and if I want to track it seriously, I would purchase the "sticky" tires separately. With only the "sticky" tires I lose driving time living do to the cold weather here in the NE. Save the Wave.
@@CarGuy11 Obviously GM "feels" differently, but you're missing the point. The Z51 is not a dedicated track car, but affords one the possibility to track it. Most purchasers of the Z51 will not track their, but go for that option just in case. If I lived it in a state that never goes below 50 degrees, fine, let it come with sticky tires. There would be nothing wrong with GM adding tire choice as option.
@@CarGuy11 I agree with Peter, I bought my current 3LT Z51 for performance and all the bells and whistles one gets.............including wonderful highway driving and great gas mileage. Don't want either spoiler/wing on my C8, but do want all the other goodies, except the tires too. Those tires last about 15-18K tops. If you want to track, buy the tires required.......mistake by GM of the younger set not REALLY knowing who will use for what purpose, but DICTATING HOW IT WILL BE SOLD
@Truthisstrangerthan Fiction You are missing the point. GM can do all the testing they want on the base model and/or the Z51 and THEY can opt to use the sticky tires and they should. I would like to see GM give the purchaser the option as to which tires they want. It's then a win/win for all concerned.
If the master cylinder is indeed a “brake by wire” system, that would almost guarantee that GM will be making a hybrid Powertrain corvette, the so called Zora edition. Hybrid needs a brake by wire system to blend regen with friction brakes. The Volt and Bolt EV has this. Also the Acura NSX has brake by wire but hooked up a little differently
I agree - he says "heres a cooler (up the front) I dont know if its for the engine or transmission". Then there is the small radiators at the rear in front of the wheels 'I dont know what these do". Well dumbarse, you just follow the pipework and see where they go! I'd be impressed if this guy even knows where to find - let alone read, the oil dipstick!
I would not wish bad things to anyone that buys the new Corvette but Heaven for bid if there is a fender bender that pushes a part of the frame in a new direction. How is a body/frame person to straighten it back to factory spec? The frame engineer must have had a really good time in front of his CAD screen. Yes, I am a very old programmer.
I like how it's got bolt on style upper control arm bushings. Those are stupid easy to get at and it means you dont gotta fight the strut to get access to the inside nut like on older cars. It seems this car wont be too bad to work on unlike some vettes
Sadly the composite body panel material used is not "repair friendly" if damaged. Replacement of individual panels is necessary in cases when damage occurs. And those individual panels are all quite "Pricey". (They sure don't build 'em like they used to. They're not fiberglass or carbon fiber that "Can" be effectively and somewhat easily repaired) So don't "hurt" them. By the way the Corvette is not the only vehicle using this material. Pretty much all composite panels on most models use the same materials. And the prices reflect the same thing. Pricy and non-repairable. Or better said, not cost effective to try and repair. Prepare to "Bite the Bullet" and buy complete replacement panels because you can't fix them and expect a satisfactory long-term repair.
Incredible car! If I had the money, I would definitely buy one, the value is simply insane! But I don't think that I will ever make enough money for this car, especially since we will see a massive price markup in Germany, like with the last Corvette (the base model C7 is still 97k around here...). My only chance at a Corvette would be a used C6 for 25-30k...
I never thought I'd see engineering like this in a mass market American car! Now I want with with clear plastic panels to show off that chassis! And that chassis need to have dipped painscheme - camo, leopard, tiger, ......
They could build a DOHC twin turbo making 1,200 HP, but they would not sell half as many as their current configuration. Throw enough money at something and you'll get what you're looking for. But that's not Chevrolet's / Corvette's philosophy.
@@CarGuy11 with the intake and the headers all pointing the same direction and only inchs apart I imagine some people will be ditching the trunk to make room for turbo piping
@@CarGuy11 that guy talking said that it's huge and he's surprised that it is huge may still be using it as a structure looks like. That doesn't sound like an engineer talking.
I curse the video feature on cell phones. Now anyone can post crap videos on YT and have their own channel. All sorts of background noise. Lousy audio overall. You have little idea what You are looking at or talking about. Yet another worthless video on the C8. It's all about the clicks. Quality be damned.
@@808G8GT fiberglass is about as light. Just weaker. The 1st gen NSX had an all aluminum chassis just like this car and it weighs nearly half a ton less.
heated seats, cooled seats, front lift, nav, 182 way power seats, adjustable bolsters, 16 speakers with 2 dedicated subwoofers in a sports car, leather where totally unnecessary, power folding mirrors, 5 unnecessary cameras, etc. Same reason all cars gain 100 pounds or so per generation.
Interesting; I thought that placing the engine closer to the drive wheels should reduce the weight since you don't need no stinking power loss of the longer FE/RWD driveshaft.....Instead a 2020 C8 Z51 DCT weighs about 200 + lbs more than a 2019 C7 Z51 8-auto....One of the big weight problems? The new tranny weighs in close to 350 lbs! Or about 100 less than the engine....Crazy!....However, you can't deny the 'magical' acceleration. And a base C8 with only the Z51 will set you back $65K while at the same time only being matched by a $122K 911 Carrera S (w/out power seats!) . The C8 tested in the article below is a heavy-optioned 3LT Z51, meaning that a lighter, basic 1LT with the Z51 should do a tick better, plus it has power seats!. Imagine that, $65K and the nearest competition is almost twice as much! Obviously more people can afford the $65K than the 911 Carrera S. www.motortrend.com/cars/chevrolet/corvette/2020/2020-chevrolet-corvette-c8-vs-2020-porsche-911-comparison-test-review/
Amazing that a 2-valves per cylinder engine allows this car to do 0 to 60mph in just 2.8 seconds. Two freaking valves per cylinder. And only one cam. Amazing. . . .
Going to be easy to turbo with the t3 hookup and headers also with intake facing rearward with muffler removed turbos will fit easy and everything else needed but some asshole company going to charge 12k for it like the mustang gt
golf clubs? Get a truck for fuck's sake and leave the performance cars for people who will use them for what they were designed for. Not being parked at stupid country clubs with elitists douchenozzles.
@@darrinwatts9229 But it shouldn't have left and didn't because of poor design. It had just gotten sorted suspension wise over parts bin construction. All it needed was a correct powerplant. THAT is typical GM of the time.
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The C8 needs that center channel for strength because it really isn't a coupe. A coupe uses the roof as a structural member to stiffen the chassis.
Makes sense thanks for watching!
not a fan of vettes, but I love looking at exoskeletons of vehicles. One question I have, how easy is maintenance going to be on the engine/transmission? It looks like it's going to be buried like hell with everything installed.
Well front engine was pretty buried too but yeah won’t be easy.
Yep, as I mentioned a while back in one of your live streams, the C8 still has a tunnel for structure, thus the door rockers can be lower allowing easier entry and exit! Thanks!
Yeah and fortunately the center console & cup holders are a little deeper than C7 as shown in this video. ruclips.net/video/UlRbpOOeV9A/видео.html
The Lotus Esprit's excellent handling came from just such a tunnel/backbone running down the center of the car. GM owned Lotus for awhile. This chassis reminds me of the Esprit.
Would this also lend itself to the possibility of an all wheel drive system of some type? Either space for a drive shaft, or batteries for a front mounted electric motor?
Martin McComb Yes that is a possibility.
About time they perfected the Fiero.
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Waaah! LOL!
Agreed
Cute.
Would be nice if CG11 kind of knew anything about what he was trying to describe. Nice color valve covers. The center tunnel chassis design goes back to Colin Chapman's '60s Lotus Elan.
Magnesium has been used on previous Corvettes. The rear bumper on the C8 is carbon fibre also.
CarGuy11, I'm not bitching.. Just suggesting, you may want to look into the audio quality of these videos.
Yeah already bought a new one. It’s tough in loud situations.
The sound gets horrible at times.
The Tunnel is for fluid transfer tubes from the forward radiators, as well as possible future AWD development.
jreyman Li-Ion batteries for a hybrid Powertrain
@@ericcindycrowder7482 Yes, that, too, since there's also an "e-Vette" in the works.
Even if GM put a $100,000 dollar price tag on the new C8...it would still be worth every penny.
You can definitely get there lol. ruclips.net/video/PwwUEvo1cYI/видео.html
I'm from Canada. My order for one will be well over a 100K with the exchange and options.
@@kerrylittle3900 ...best of luck and happy motoring...if l could afford one I'd get it in metallic silver , tan / red interior with the performance package..
@@tedmalley7636 Thanks mate. Hope to have it by spring time. With the Z51 package with the performance tires you cant run them when its below freezing. Heard they can crack. Its winter here now so it would have been in storage for several months anyways. I have climate controlled garages so I am letting a good friend of mine store his 2019 Grand Sport over the winter in one of them. He left me the keys too, ha ha. But I wouldn't dare. He has those run flat performance tires on his too. But at least I can go out and look at it. LOL.
@@kerrylittle3900 ..I understand Canadian winter's aren't kind to any car...I'm eager to see the intro of the AWD , Twin turbo hybrid "Zora" spec...at 985 HP it should make mince meat of just about any Ferrari (still at less than half price)...
How in the blue hell is this car priced under 70k. So much innovation and technological advancements in this car.
808 G8GT makes one think what corners are being cut?
@@jimbeam4111 Not really. Minimal parts being shipped over seas. Also....no ridiculous mark ups just for status like ferarri, Lamborghini, GTR, etc. I'd take a C8 over ANY exotic, japanese super car.
Under 60k* lol Chevy trying to make some money lol
Development cost can be mitigated through mass production of any given product. GM does this very well, compared to other auto manufacturers.
GM must be using the profit from sales of work trucks and fleet vehicles. The technology they use in Corvettes will usually trickle down ti other GM vehicles.
fantastic presentation ! everything looks top notch and high quality, superb engineering !
For the price yes!
Since they did not include port injection with the direct injection, how did they address the carbon buildup on the intake valves which is a common problem with direct injection engines?
They claim it’s not an issue but I put a catch can on my C7.
It appears that the rear area might be an area for some additional dynamat or heat shielfding to protect the trunk even more than did the factory application of heat protection from the trunk. How much heat can be redirected in of course unknown as yet.
Engineers were smart to adopt Colin Chapman's backbone chassis design.
Yeah but you loose the flat floor of a normal mid engine chassis.
@@CarGuy11 True. But the backbone won't twist and flex. I drive an '88 Fiero GT. And the backbone center console was perfect for the car's stability in the turns. And although vastly inferior to the new vette, Colin's design for his Lotus was the wise choice for Chevy.
Thet new engine cover looks like a part of iron man suit @3:25
True haha!
It really does.
I'm impressed with the amount of castings on that chassis. That's expensive to produce. footbox, behind the seats, shock towers. dashboard... damn.
Fore sure.
Castings are cheap as chips to produce. Once you have the dies, you just bang that molten ally in them all day and hey presto - cheap, lightweight and most of all strong chassis members.
6.35 is an exhaust manifold, not inlet.Interesting construction technique,are the panels plastic?
Yes panels are all composite. No carbon fiber panels like C7.
Man, do you know anything about Corvettes? I don't know if I misunderstood you or you just don't know what you are talking about. The ONLY Corvettes that did not have a high center console is the C1 & C2! The C8 console is right on par with the last few generations! The only big difference is the climate control bar, whatever you want to call it. FYI the center exhaust started on the C5. Why would the side exhaust be controversial? Up until you, I've not heard or seen anything talking about the location of the exhaust exit. How does it look like the engine is hooked around 180 degrees from the C7? If it were, it would be a transverse mounted engine. Meaning the engine exhaust and cylinders would be lined up left to right. It looks like and it is a longitudinal mounted engine as all Corvettes have been.
Exactly this is the first mid engine Corvette so it doesn’t have to have that. Look at any other mid engine car interior.
@@CarGuy11 Oh ok I see what you mean. You're talking about the transmission tunnel of the OLD style Corvettes. Gotcha. LMAO All front engine Corvettes are now the OLD style!
These things will rule the race tracks and drag strips.
If people actually drive them there.
This is amazing design and construction....even on the suspension bits.
Unfortunately it is heavier tho.
@@CarGuy11 True BUT that weight is in the rear. A little padding in the right place to make her get up and go faster.
anybody else notice the size of those transmission mounts!!!?? Well done.
From a engineering perspective its a novel idea that could very well be superior to ALL other chassis design. The center spline and all other supporting structure leads into a TRIANGULATION design that is repeated throughout. Very interesting.
But there is the drawback of the large tunnel that takes up tons of interior space.
@@CarGuy11 Its enough space for a two seater sportscar, and if you notice the interior is a cockpit design to a extreme. GM has no problem incorporating new technology into their lineup that is world reknowned to a extreme. More than the most exotic companies, and i believe you are viewing one of these advancements. A bare bones C7 dosent have a chassis anywhere near this high tech. Look at each corner carefully, and you see structural Ribbing. I dont think i have seen it to this extreme before. This aluminum chassis is light years ahead of the last one.
@@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921 The C7 had same center tunnel & aluminum chassis. They needed the tunnel for torque tube in C7 & C8 uses an evolution of the C7 chassis which is why it still has the center tunnel. In my opinion, one of the best features of mid engine cars is the lack of center tunnel.
@@CarGuy11 Battery should go through tunnel
0:50 does that look like a space where a differential unit with half shafts could fit? :)
Well probably battery & electric motors on the hybrid version!
I'm holding out for electric hybrid.
looks like it and you can hide big battery packs in the center tunnel adding to rigidity and keeping a low center of gravity
This walk around and through (sort of) was actually interesting.
Appreciate it & hope you check out more videos on the channel!
I cannot wait till they build and deliver mine. the most exciting thing in my mind. I got away with a car for 62k. steal of a deal.
Wow discount or light options?
@@CarGuy11 heres my car i built.
1 lt Elkhart lake blue metallic
sky cool grey interior
added 500 worth of yellow on my brake calipers
added 1195 for performance exhaust
added 995 for carbon flash race stripes
otherwise I did what Chevrolet wanted i got an attainable car with a couple coolmadd ons. 62,850 or something. but to be fair i have bought more than 1 or 2 cars from them.
The price is the most remarkable feature of the C8!
congratulations ! you made the deal of your life and got a supercar for just over $60 k that's going to make $250k+ cars looks stupid! I guess Corvette won't be able to build as many units as they could potentially sell and would have customers for. I heard some dealers already had to turn customers away. the demand is just gigantic. and with good reason, it is the performance machine offering of the decade.
1lt are constrained....it’s going to be awhile....
When you begin to fry the brakes with a Brake-By-Wire e-booster system, the smell is your really your only feedback, even if their pad temperature model is spot on (which would be impossible). If the brake temperatures are neglected for long enough (for example on track) and the fluid actually boils (rare but does happen) then the system will most likely (should) set a leak detection fault. Once a leak detection is set, we get nice things like circuit isolation and no boost. Cheers!
Yeah they will have to have a dash warning light when brakes get overheated.
vaccuum boost was the same way. this system is being sold as a brake by wire, but that's really untrue. it's simply an electric over hydraulic assisted accumultator instead of a vaccuum accumulator.
EXCELLENT. A1. Topnotch. Superb Technology.
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Amazing all the engineering and aluminum for the money.Grandslam homer.
Starting price is amazing.
Audio sucks. Too much background noise.
Yeah bought new mic but it’s tough.
Where is this? Corvette museum?
This was at Corvettes at Carlisle.
I see a lot of chassis casting technology used on the Cadillac ct6, nice,,,,,
Yes for sure.
Look at how they have done those heads with the intakes straighter than ever before! Amazing - there is still development to come. Certainly doesnt look like too much room for 2 cams per side on top.
There is actually more room in engine bay than C7.
Thanks for doing this video
Glad you enjoyed & hope you check out more Corvette videos on the channel!
Very nice, I do not like hoe the side intakes were designed, the 430 or 458 have much nicer design, but looking at your video I see that it could be very easy for aftermarket players to design plug and play side panels with different design.
hope to see a lot of aftermarket parts for the car
Thanks yeah but needs opening for cooling & intake.
I am just saying the cooling intakes from the 430 , 458 and even McLaren 570 are just more appealing, and by the looks of chassis, side panels are an easy replacement. Like old Porsches you will see many aftermarket players will come with innovative body designs , which is a great think for the Corvette owners. I have a GT3 and am seriously changing for this Corvette, car concept.
Oh my I love GT3 too! Let me know if you are selling!
Is the engine backwards or the manifold? I mean c'mon.
The manifold has beed redesigned for the mid-engine design. The engine still turns the same direction, and faces the same way.
They hid all the problems they found in the year it was delayed. Too bad they settled the strike, they should have closed!!! Wheels cracking, not covered!!! Transmission slips and has harsh shifts, your problem not theirs. Torque converter shakes, not their problem it's yours. Overheating on Z06's, not their problem, it's yours etc etc etc sue the pricks!!! I did and won!!' Sued them over my Cadillac and won!!! Problems after problems and call GM and all you hear is were so sorry your having issues!!! Just sue them. Lemon law lawyer!! Get one one on speed dial!!!
I did that
Fyi. There is no tubular aluminum construction. It is cast and Extruded. Similar to what Lotus has been doing for decades.
Yes I misspoke.
Might be worth watching but the sound quality is so annoying that I had to turn it off.
That’s too bad. I’ve since purchased a new mic but it’s tough when it’s that loud.
It uses a transaxle, there is no rear differential.
Right it’s integrated in trans.
@@CarGuy11 Yep, Transmission + Axle = Transaxle :)
George S. IS right, all transaxles are trans-diff-axles
1.19 not slotted/ drilled due to elimination of copper in friction materials . There was an engineer from the manufactures who spoke on the subject .
Ah ok thanks!
8:28 Dude. No bendy the shiny new car.
Lol
Great upload. For the life of me I can't figure out why GM is not giving purchasers the option as to which tire they want. I would want the A/S Michelins with my Z51 and if I want to track it seriously, I would purchase the "sticky" tires separately. With only the "sticky" tires I lose driving time living do to the cold weather here in the NE. Save the Wave.
Thanks! GM feels opposite, if you buy Z51 you would want to track so can buy all seasons if you don’t.
@@CarGuy11 Obviously GM "feels" differently, but you're missing the point. The Z51 is not a dedicated track car, but affords one the possibility to track it. Most purchasers of the Z51 will not track their, but go for that option just in case. If I lived it in a state that never goes below 50 degrees, fine, let it come with sticky tires. There would be nothing wrong with GM adding tire choice as option.
@@CarGuy11 I agree with Peter, I bought my current 3LT Z51 for performance and all the bells and whistles one gets.............including wonderful highway driving and great gas mileage. Don't want either spoiler/wing on my C8, but do want all the other goodies, except the tires too. Those tires last about 15-18K tops. If you want to track, buy the tires required.......mistake by GM of the younger set not REALLY knowing who will use for what purpose, but DICTATING HOW IT WILL BE SOLD
@Truthisstrangerthan Fiction You are missing the point. GM can do all the testing they want on the base model and/or the Z51 and THEY can opt to use the sticky tires and they should. I would like to see GM give the purchaser the option as to which tires they want. It's then a win/win for all concerned.
If the master cylinder is indeed a “brake by wire” system, that would almost guarantee that GM will be making a hybrid Powertrain corvette, the so called Zora edition. Hybrid needs a brake by wire system to blend regen with friction brakes. The Volt and Bolt EV has this. Also the Acura NSX has brake by wire but hooked up a little differently
Yeah good possibility.
Blown away, a NEW Corvette I can afford
Just like past models.
Can't wait to get mine in 2030. Please take care of it until then.
Lol I’ll have C9 ha!
This guy has very little knowledge of Corvettes or Automotive in General. A high school graduate would have been a better choice!
I agree - he says "heres a cooler (up the front) I dont know if its for the engine or transmission". Then there is the small radiators at the rear in front of the wheels 'I dont know what these do". Well dumbarse, you just follow the pipework and see where they go! I'd be impressed if this guy even knows where to find - let alone read, the oil dipstick!
Me as an automobile designer : smiles
Also me: oh a nice donor car without built in shaped frame
I would not wish bad things to anyone that buys the new Corvette but Heaven for bid if there is a fender bender that pushes a part of the frame in a new direction. How is a body/frame person to straighten it back to factory spec?
The frame engineer must have had a really good time in front of his CAD screen. Yes, I am a very old programmer.
Haha yeah most exotics have that issue.
Legitamatly it is a manual transmission! This car will be a game changer!
Let’s hope the tuning of trans is right.
@@CarGuy11 It is! They are going with the latest in gearbox technology! Dual dry clutch enables the Vette to go 2.8 0-60 times!
@@glennoropeza3545 Dual dry nothing,it's a wet clutch.pay attention.
That front suspension with the coil spring reminds me of early A body front suspension.
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I like how it's got bolt on style upper control arm bushings. Those are stupid easy to get at and it means you dont gotta fight the strut to get access to the inside nut like on older cars. It seems this car wont be too bad to work on unlike some vettes
Sadly the composite body panel material used is not "repair friendly" if damaged. Replacement of individual panels is necessary in cases when damage occurs. And those individual panels are all quite "Pricey".
(They sure don't build 'em like they used to. They're not fiberglass or carbon fiber that "Can" be effectively and somewhat easily repaired)
So don't "hurt" them.
By the way the Corvette is not the only vehicle using this material. Pretty much all composite panels on most models use the same materials. And the prices reflect the same thing. Pricy and non-repairable. Or better said, not cost effective to try and repair. Prepare to "Bite the Bullet" and buy complete replacement panels because you can't fix them and expect a satisfactory long-term repair.
there is a ridiculous amount of room for turbos on the back of that car.
Sure is ha!
Recorded with a patato.
Incredible car! If I had the money, I would definitely buy one, the value is simply insane! But I don't think that I will ever make enough money for this car, especially since we will see a massive price markup in Germany, like with the last Corvette (the base model C7 is still 97k around here...).
My only chance at a Corvette would be a used C6 for 25-30k...
Wow well you have many EURO only models that we are jealous of lol.
Good job...
Thanks man!
I never thought I'd see engineering like this in a mass market American car!
Now I want with with clear plastic panels to show off that chassis!
And that chassis need to have dipped painscheme - camo, leopard, tiger, ......
Lol
Maintenance nightmare.
Yeah
You need to invest in a good microphone
Yep already on it lol. Tough with all the background noise.
The engine doesn't need it but I can't understand why it hasn't got overhead cam!
Stay tuned for Z06!
Smaller package with OHV.
They could build a DOHC twin turbo making 1,200 HP, but they would not sell half as many as their current configuration. Throw enough money at something and you'll get what you're looking for. But that's not Chevrolet's / Corvette's philosophy.
What did they hide? The title made it sound like something sinister
Brake by wire...
CarGuy11 oh okay thanks
Now that's a top notch Pontiac Fiero GT.. took them decades to develop after all those Fiero prototypes..
Haha true!
Why did they cheap out on the rotors? Surely slotted rotors doesn't cost GM that much. Its not a pickup truck.
Someone commented a response in here as to why.
Looking at this car all I can wonder is who will do the first LSx swap :) LOL
Plenty of room for upgrades!
Ill be waiting for the first idiot to do a manual swap on a C8...Oh Christ save us from the stupidity. LOL
Manual will not be easy.
@@ELECTRICEYEMEDIA I have no interest in a C8 since there is no manual option. Not everybody wants a push button playstation.
ELECTRIC EYE MEDIA what’s wrong with a manual? I’m sure somebody will do it as well as traditional automatics for drag racing.
What real estate agents do as they walk you through a house.
Lol
wish every car came with this
What mid engine 😂?
Thats where the batteries will go for the ZR1
Haha yep!
:51 seconds I could altomst imagine a front wheel drive pumpkin under all that stuff to make this car an all wheel drive chassis design
Could be with electric motors in hybrid version!
Throw a couple of turbos on this bad boy and it's on!
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Man look how easy a turbo will be to mount
Yeah plenty of room.
@@CarGuy11 with the intake and the headers all pointing the same direction and only inchs apart I imagine some people will be ditching the trunk to make room for turbo piping
paul watt Ha good point!
That's a huge center tunnel for not having a driveshaft.
Yes. They use it all for structural support.
@@CarGuy11 that guy talking said that it's huge and he's surprised that it is huge may still be using it as a structure looks like. That doesn't sound like an engineer talking.
I curse the video feature on cell phones. Now anyone can post crap videos on YT and have their own channel. All sorts of background noise. Lousy audio overall. You have little idea what You are looking at or talking about. Yet another worthless video on the C8. It's all about the clicks. Quality be damned.
The radiator hose claps have to go! Changing out that muffler setup will reduce weight a lot hope Corsa or Magnaflow will step up with that.
Ha didn’t notice the claps!
@@CarGuy11 Sorry clamps.
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@@francisbobmitchell8627 They look cheap.
Old Tech...Where is the electric motor?
Stay tuned for ZR1!
So why dies it weigh 3650 pounds?
Good question it’s disappointing. The size of the car grew so main cause plus new suspension is heavier.
Because the body isnt made of carbon fiber!! Lol.
@@808G8GT fiberglass is about as light. Just weaker.
The 1st gen NSX had an all aluminum chassis just like this car and it weighs nearly half a ton less.
heated seats, cooled seats, front lift, nav, 182 way power seats, adjustable bolsters, 16 speakers with 2 dedicated subwoofers in a sports car, leather where totally unnecessary, power folding mirrors, 5 unnecessary cameras, etc. Same reason all cars gain 100 pounds or so per generation.
Interesting; I thought that placing the engine closer to the drive wheels should reduce the weight since you don't need no stinking power loss of the longer FE/RWD driveshaft.....Instead a 2020 C8 Z51 DCT weighs about 200 + lbs more than a 2019 C7 Z51 8-auto....One of the big weight problems? The new tranny weighs in close to 350 lbs! Or about 100 less than the engine....Crazy!....However, you can't deny the 'magical' acceleration. And a base C8 with only the Z51 will set you back $65K while at the same time only being matched by a $122K 911 Carrera S (w/out power seats!) . The C8 tested in the article below is a heavy-optioned 3LT Z51, meaning that a lighter, basic 1LT with the Z51 should do a tick better, plus it has power seats!. Imagine that, $65K and the nearest competition is almost twice as much! Obviously more people can afford the $65K than the 911 Carrera S.
www.motortrend.com/cars/chevrolet/corvette/2020/2020-chevrolet-corvette-c8-vs-2020-porsche-911-comparison-test-review/
Wow I didn’t know the DCT weighed that much!
Not sure not sure not sure, mate upload a real good disruption of what you know for sure and not for sure, LMFAO. :)
Insurance is going to skyrocket compared to a top spec C7... Chevy price with Porche insurance premium.. not bad thing though
Perhaps but very little carbon fiber in C8 compared to C7.
New microphone needed ASAP
Yep done.
Now the windshield wont fit.
I thought new vette had flat plain crank
Not in Stingray, possibly Z06!
The C8R has the flat plane crank
Awesome 👏🇺🇸
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So if the battery goes totally dead your screwed! Lol!
Not sure what you mean. Isn’t it same for all cars?
CarGuy11 no steering or brakes?
Michael Cuff Haha true for brakes but if engine not on you won’t be moving. Probably a mechanical backup as well.
Nice mic
Already ordered a new one.
Amazing that a 2-valves per cylinder engine allows this car to do 0 to 60mph in just 2.8 seconds.
Two freaking valves per cylinder. And only one cam. Amazing.
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Well DCT is a huge help.
horrible audio dude
Yeah I already bought a new mic.
Cmon man. They’re still using a center cam, push rods and rocker arms. Just like the Model T. Get the Alfa Romeo Alfisti.mn.co
Haha but it works reliably!
Don’t be patriotic, its old tech no matter the marque. Not an affordable Ferrari. Looks good. Emphasis on “Looks”
@@CarGuy11 not at performance speeds.. Too many parts that always go wrong. Not efficient either.. Hell the rotary dial phone still works too.. 😂
Going to be easy to turbo with the t3 hookup and headers also with intake facing rearward with muffler removed turbos will fit easy and everything else needed but some asshole company going to charge 12k for it like the mustang gt
Haha
Do yourself a favor and watch this with the sound muted.
That mid-engine design looks to be a bitch to work on.
Yep
Love the car, but the big question is...Can I fit my golf clubs or SCUBA gear in it?
Less room than C7 but still should be able to fit it. ruclips.net/video/UlRbpOOeV9A/видео.html
golf clubs? Get a truck for fuck's sake and leave the performance cars for people who will use them for what they were designed for. Not being parked at stupid country clubs with elitists douchenozzles.
Look at that Ferrari
Lol
Wow similar to a fiero good work gm👍🏻
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That's no shit. Look what happen to that. 4 years gone
@@darrinwatts9229 But it shouldn't have left and didn't because of poor design. It had just gotten sorted suspension wise over parts bin construction. All it needed was a correct powerplant. THAT is typical GM of the time.
Take my money
It’s available to order now.
Where are the cup holders ?
I show them in this video. ruclips.net/video/UlRbpOOeV9A/видео.html
Talking into a two dollar microphone,
But that’s ok, nothing is really being said.
Sorry, I couldn’t help myself.
It’s a Bluetooth mic but already bought a different one.
Looks rigid...I'm a little rigid
Lol
C4
Doesn't know what a radiator is... mmkay
? There are several heat exchangers for different components.
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