Full FOX News Voltaire Interview on 'Goth Murder Madness'
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
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RUclips seems to of fixed the video problem, but it's also been requested that I upload the video to a fileserver anyways, so here the link for a direct download of the clip.
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This is the full segment on FOX News about the 'Goth Murder Madness', which featured an interview with the musician Voltaire (voltaire.net). Voltaire comes in about half way through this segment.
Clip is from Oct. 22nd, 2005. And I actually had the pleasure of seeing him play a free instore at OzoneUK in Portland right before he was whisked away to do this interview, so his 'pre-interview' talk was pretty funny too. He actually said they'd call him 'Satanic Goth' or something like that, which as you watch, they got kind of close to his prediction.
I know someone else has already posted just the interview part, but I think the two minutes before the interview gives the interview some more context. Mostly because the woman says 'gothic stuff' and 'killed so desperately', which...I'm not even sure what that means...
Voltaire is a really decent human being.
My young daughter, also a fan of his, recently had to have a liver transplant, and while she was in the hospital, he actually called her up and talked with her and lifted her spirits, immensely.
You just don't find people like that very often in life.
I can't thank him enough for being real, and kind.
+Theodore Tutor and then he sang death death death death evil evil evil evil song
Yes...yes he did!!
+Theodore Tutor
Gotta love that man. One of the few musicians who actually cares about his fans.
+Aligor Zeimet I agree :)
Wow that's so sweet of him
Voltaire handled that interview like a pro.
he's so classy.
"Goth Murder Madness" is an excellent name for a band.
When I saw it I thought it might have been some album I’d somehow missed lol
Die Swan : I guess so... in a satirical way!
Die Swan Ooooooo
The way he speaks really shows how intelligent he is, he really has a way with words.
He's a really cool guy I met him once at a goth festival in Whitby in 2012
Having a way of speaking doesn't correlate with intelligence, just charisma
I know right he's more intelligent than them news anchors basically them news anchors are about as unintelligent as a damn T rex anyways and not to mention that Scott guy there he's the one that try to make invader zim look bad from what I heard in several video a good while back basically the guy was mentally ill and insane and the news anchors try to make goths look bad Exuse me that's blaming video games for gun violence I'm like really it's not video games you dumb ass lying news anchors it's mental illness that some people that makes them go crazy and do stupid things it's like they don't want to talk about real facts of what causes people to commit murders it's like they want to stay oblivious and lie like dogs this is why I freaking hate the news media by a lot and one more thing the news media wants to be the same normal boring person and you know what screw them we are all different
I'm so glad Voltaire got involved to educate people on what goth is here
I think that it's very interesting that Fox News had no problem pointing out the fact that Scott dyleski was a goth but quickly got defensive when newspapers pointed out that Anders breivik was a Christian
***** Biased and unbased as f*ck: Fox news, or any AAA american news outlet. The news also directly relates murder to satanism, even though satanism hasn't been directly / indirectly linked to murder since the dark ages, something they should drop right away before everyone sensible says "Nope, fuck it, news media is a laughing stock."
***** even when shot at they keep their stoic faces and static smiles plastered on their empty souls. They have no reaction, they just emptily fill out story after story. even when their life is threatened, surprising and most disgusting, *THEY DON'T EVER SEEM TO CARE* it's laughable but also pitiable.
Its a double standard, especially in the 21st century, when we live in a democracy. Im just thinking about how heavy metal seems to have been so dismissed and condemned in the past, and no longer seems to be, least not in the west. Havent they really learned how stupid it is to condemn an entire musical genre, or everyone that listen to this music? Its an interesting note, also, that some goths are also metalheads, lol.
It is not a double standard, Fox News clearly states where it stands. They are just defending the values the accepted. That's all.
I don't find it interesting too, because it is quite obvious: Fox is conservative. They aren't hiding it.
peklerks I understand I'm a little late to the party, but I might hope for your pardon in that regard. I just wished to say that I wholeheartedly agree with your astute comments regarding the conservatism of Fox as an outlet. However, the problem is twofold:- their audience is often radical but thinks itself conservative; And their opponents think that Fox wishes to be anything other than the niche it fulfills- sensationalistic, radical entertainment without moral or ethical concern. These issues are systemic across almost all news outlets worldwide due directly for the human need for safe excitement. Living vicariously through the sensationalized stories of others from one's couch and simultaneously denouncing, ridiculing and criticising the actions of those same persons is the worst kind of hypocrisy. However, it is fuelled by insecurity and a certain kind of conservatism of action regarding risk. Why risk anything when you can habituate sitting in front of a box that tells you what you want to hear. This is the true horror of all this. The echo chamber effect of confirming radical opinions thriugh imbalanced reporting and the power that has when used irresponsibly in such a cavalier manner.
Finally, we must remember that to laugh at the radicalized conservatives is to belittle them also. They are still fellow humans and should be treated as such less we turn to elitism of persons and views. But truly, no person can be elite and no view can be elite without by it's very nature being flawed and thus lesser. Thus degrading the supposed superiority of said view or person. Elitism by it's nature puts you last in the queue of human decency. To afford someone a kindness not shown to you with no desire for recompense is to truly be kind. And the only way to be better is yo better others and yourself in harmony. And losing judgemental mindsets is the most important step on the road to actually progressing toward collectivistic acceptance of humanity. But many do not desire that and so Fox "news" still exists to be a figurehead for an actual 'movement' grassroots level elitism. This is what is truly dangerous and the more plainspeaking and understandable an argument the more this movement seeks to gather followers everywhere.
Voltaire is so amazing and intelligent
Thank you Voltaire, glad we have people like you to speak out intelligently on situations like this for us, its an old video I know but its still nice to see.
sad that goths gets this tag, that they do weird-ass-shit and hurt people, we'r not about that! glad he defended us all, just cause of a few 'goth-look-alike-wankers" we get a nasty tag
I hate that some people are so quick to judge and think just bcuz you are/act/look Goth or are into a Gothic like style that that automatically makes you evil, or affiliated with Satan when thats not the case , to me it is basically a style, can be like dark art/& also music not necessarily having to do with evil, I myself am Christian, my style can be dark/victorian/Goth & People tend to take it as evil, witchery, I disagree. Sad that some people can be so quick to Judge n paint things as evil just because it is something they are unfamiliar with
+Savage
Don't blame them. There's a mindset that the things we don't understand are evil. It is up to us to help guide people through realizing that such a thing simply isn't true.
Thats also True Aligor Zeimet
+Savage People just need to realise there is a significant difference between dark and evil.
Right! Yes! Thank You! *
DEMOGORGE AE
"It's hard to light a candle, easy to curse the dark instead." ~Nightwish
Voltaire is the best representative of the gothic community.
You can tell that FOX just typed into Google "What is Goth" and only invited Voltaire because his name was the first to pop up. Kill 'em with kindness, Voltaire. With kindness, haha!
Voltaire must have been so embarrassed doing this...
why
Props to Voltaire.
People like him and Marilyn Manson show a side of an otherwise misunderstood, feared, and hated culture, as being refined, humble, and overall human. Thanks to every human who challenges cultural oppression with information, not ignorance, or violent reactions.
The greater being can understand the inferior.
The inferior being, can only fear what it doesn't understand.
Marilyn Manson isn't goth......
@@Anonymous-wb3nz yeah but he's commonly associated with Goth so when people think of goth they think of hik
@@flext-rex8284 No, actually he isn't. Maybe to 14 year olds......
didn't marilyn manson write something in his book how he fantasized beating his mother to death...?
Re Marilyn Manson: this comment hasn't aged well, has it?
What would Satanism have to do with the murder? Stupid question.
Nothing, people just want headlines.
Satanism is viewed as bad by the majority of people, and as such people want to throw the title on things. "She was satanistic, so she murdered him." Is a stupid statement but one that people will make both consciously and subconsciously from time to time.
It's a shame, because real Satanism is such a fascinating philosophy that many people would benefit from if they chose to include it in their lives.
The 2000's were a mess
Samuel Freakin' Adams as opposed to 2016/2017?... I would say the early 2000s is like caffeine to today which is cocaine..
John Fradono If that's the progression, God help us in 2030
@@ottogren1 oh please no, its only 2020 and everythings fuckin mad right now.
Ah yes the time where people thought shitposting was hacking and that Goths were satanic murderers that eat babies.
"I think you're the first goth I have ever met"
Me: Wait. . . were you home schooled or something?. _.
Dafaq!?
Responding to a 4 year old comment but oh well... Depending on where you live, you may very well never be exposed to alternative subcultures. I live in quite a small place in a very sparsely populated country and I was always the only goth in school. I did see one other girl who was kind of alternative with facial piercings and such, but no goths. I've gone to three different schools (for different ages) and they all had approximately 400 students each so they weren't very big. Now I study at university and of course I haven't seen everyone there but so far I haven't spotted any goths. A few people with metal band shirts though, which is about the closest I've seen... Point being, you can go to public school and still never meet any goths :P
Voltaire,OFFICIAL spokeperson for the Goth Community if there ever was one!!I'm glad they chose to speak with him who is very educated in the Gothic scene and not some ingorant wanker from some Babtist church who blames Goths for everything wrong that happens!!!
At least they were reasonable with him unlike O'Riley is with most of his guests
Wow. Voltaire spoke for News on Goth. Awesome :3
I didn't know he wrote a book. I wanna read it :3
Voltaire has actually written multiple books
I'm not goth, but I've always found that (and notice that I'm ignorant of what exactly is goth) the "negative" music like linkin park when growing up was actually an outlet for the bad stuff that happened to me as a child and made me feel good, and I'm the most stupidly happy, quirky, "not goth" guy around (this is me STILL saying it in ignorance)
I think that the whole idea that people do get these feelings and can relate to the gothic lifestyle, as well as them coming from all walks of life, signifies that this world is not all black and white and needs to be addressed as such.
linkin park is "negative" music? is that sarcasm or are you serious ?
John Rodrigues
ikr?
DkXboxer linkin park? lol
John Rodrigues
Yes, yes I am being sarcastic.
@@yasmeleon I think most music does this. Feelings themselves are not negative. It's what you do those feelings that ties to positive or negitive. You'll hear more often than not that these bands helped people going through deep stuff within themselves.
VOLTAIRE IS MY HERO!!!!! Seriously, I LOVE how down-to-Earth he is, how realistic. I mean, I worked in Hot Topic for a year and a half and I met some of the coolest, nicest people ever there. One of the managers had at least seven piercings in his face, 1 1/2 inch gauges in his ears, spiked black and red hair, and tattoos all up his arms, and he's one of the nicest guys I know! He always looked out for me. Goth, prep, punk, jock, whatever! REAL people don't need labels.
Voltaire is friggin awesome, love his RUclips channel and just love the guy as a person. He's funny, quirky, intelligent, and very respectful. A great goth role model.
This was actually really well-worded. I must say, I see goth in a totally different light now.
So well spoken, great interview.
I love how incredibly well-spoken Voltaire is when the situation calls for it. It's such a wonderful counterpoint to the silliness he's usually up to.
"Goth movement." ....guys, the gothic subculture has been around for literally hundreds of years. This is just part of the world at this point, it's evolved over the course of years, but it's always existed. Stop calling it a movement damn it. I'm not sure why this irks me so much, but I love history and I've always paid attention to the subcultures that existed throughout. Gothic has always existed, it just changes. This coming from someone who, in the sense of clothing and hobbies, is not a goth.
Nikolai Lugo : The Goth subculture refers specifically to the music scene that evolved from punk rock in the late 70's that was known as post-punk Goth-rock (Batcave) and which incorporated together the cultural referencies of the punk movement, the Romantic DARK Neo-GOTHIC literature, fashion and art of the late of the Victorian period (late XIX century) and the Horror movie classics (silent black and white films and Hammer's movies) !
Gothic is a more broad therm than GOTH and it refers to embracing life and appreciating the beauty of its darker aspects (we are old souls... we show our sadness for the human condition... we reflect our DARK SIDE... it is present within each and every one of us!
All GOTHS are Gothic but not everyone who likes Gothic or dark things is a GOTH!
And please don't confuse the Halloween or Emo bullshit with GOTH!
Anyththing they distrust or dislike they call. . . "a movement", because they want to play up the threat of something. "Movement" obviously sounds more dangerous than subculture.
I not a true goth, but I do like some of the music(of course I like a lot of different music types). One thing I have grown to really despise is how the news media has changed in the last 40 years. The news media is no longer unbiased and they are rarely 'fair'. The news media uses body position(language), word tone, word selection, and graphic images to influence the reader, listener, or viewer. The news media has realized that they can increase ratings by sensationalizing any and every news event, and they do so. The news media has lost my trust, and they are not likely to ever get it back.
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My father was a musician and luthier. I have nearly perfect pitch, and listen to just about any music type, except rap(lyrics too repetitive, not enough variation).
I like some of that music, too. Also, I am very fascinated by 18th century gothic litterature.
Never has this statement been more true as it is today, with news taking a political stand rather than standing for the truth and has just turned into a 24/7 spew of propaganda
Evil Rat : When were the news media ever trust worthy?
Being goth isn't just about music
Ok, I finally saw this video (someone else posted just the interview on youtube)
Voltaire is a VERY well-spoken, charming man. Well, you can tell that just from his music but this interview solidifies that even more. He has MY respect! :)
Very eloquent answers Voltaire. Color me impressed.
I love voltaire!!
Good for him! I'm glad he was able to debunk that stereotype. :D I'm very impressed with him.
he's a pretty cool guy
i met him at the whitby goth weekend festival last week
he signed my favourite voltaire CD Album and i got a photo with him
AWESOME! I love how Voltaire was so cool and seemingly cooperative, getting his point across in a calm and collected manner. When you lash out in anger at someone who is wrong, it only makes them more secure in their view, and also makes you look bad. Go Voltaire!
"Well, you're the first goth I've met"
Yeah... I figured
I've been looking for this for a while. Yay. I'm glad someone posted it.
One of the few people to make it out of a FOX interview without being trashed
As crappy and leading as many of the questions and statements were, at least they let him finish. I mean, they actually let him make his point without spewing random, idiotic garbage. So whoever it was who was doing the interview gets props, simply for that. Definitely one of Fox's better interviews. Doesn't make it good, just makes it less crap.
Voltaire is my new fav goth. kudos.
(love his music, btw)
Way to go, Voltaire! So eloquent and calm under such pressure and silly questions. Then again, given your lyrical mastery, none of us would have expected anything else.
Oh this again. So just becouse THAT murderer were goth everyone has to be...or not. Just look at Damien Echols, he was innocent. (And is of course.) I love the gothic style, but people who doesn't understand it shouldn't say a word about it. Ok? Lear a few things before, search for facts. Most goths are descent and friendly people like anyone. There are both good and bad people in every subculture/none.subculture and so on.
*learn...
Voltaire is one of the most well spoken and intelligent people I've seen
Holy shit, I just found this guy's channel a week ago, I can't believe he was on the news 16 years ago!!!!!!
I actually got the chance to meet him too!
@@ChuckStegall777 Lucky, I've always wanted to meet him, his Gothic Homemaking series really inspired me to make a Gothic paradise like his, half my room is stuff inspired by him and his creations, my favorite being the crow on the skull, lol
@Reisguard Same here. I just loved when he called the network out for using the term "Goth Murder", questioning whether if the kid had listened to rap or country if this would be considered a "Rap Murder" or a "Country Murder". I nearly kissed my monitor when he said that.
I love Voltaire. He is a great guy and very entertaining. I really want to see him live one day.
Voltaire is awesome, I love his music. Screw the haters. He did pretty good in this interview.
He explained that a lot better than most people would.
Gotta love how they decide to cut him off (you can hear them firing up the music as he is talking) when they realize that he has a brain and is far smarter than they thought he was and that they therefore couldn't back him into saying what they wanted him to say. Much like Marilyn Manson, Voltaire is incredibly smart and well spoken - no journalist is going to trick him into saying something he doesn't want to.
I already liked Voltaire, but now I have incredible respect gor the guy. When asked questions that were practically assaults on his lifestyle or insults, he calmly disputed those claims. What a guy.
wow im surprised FOX was so gentle with him
Great interview, brief as it was by necessity of the format, Voltaire!As he said : Had this young man been of most any other identity [save Punk, Emo, Rave, Steampunk, or an orientation like Trans, Gay, Junkie, etc] it is highly unlikely that he would be either focused on so intently or held up as an 'example' of a dangerous & even evil subculture, especially when he was still only a defendant. It is clearly because of his Goth identity that such a voyeristic horror attached itself to not only the case but him & his wider life.
Voltaire is a marvellous person & a wonderful spokesman for The Gothic Scene as a whole. There are very good reasons many of us who are Goth, Punk, & otherwise 'alternative' in our identification respect him so much, for he has put himself out there for the wider world to attempt to champion our lifestyle & resolve the most damaging stigma that the square or 'normal' World holds about us. My father has been friends with Voltaire, & I have long looked up to both My Father & Voltaire as exemplary members of the alternative scene in general. Thanks for posting this!
Keeps a level head and always respectful. Voltaire is the best 🖤
I am not Goth....but I do know that it is wrong to judge an entire group of people based on the actions of a few....
Way to Go Voltaire!!!!
Wow, i couldn't of explained it better if i tried. Rock on Voltaire.
Well done Voltaire!
The fact that some people on here continue to miss that point of his statements, even after having it explained to them, at great length, both amuses me, and saddens me.
Voltaire hit one out of the Park. He answered each question perfectly.
I met Voltaire 10 years ago, he came to my city to one of the bars in the downtown area. I even got to shake his hand!
It's so weird that this is called a 'Goth' murder, only because the presumed attacker wears black and hasn't had a haircut in quite some time. There is no information available about the kid himself. Did he have mental issues? An affair with the wife? Hell, maybe he was just pissed at the guy or his parents! There are so many reasons why somebody this young and fragile would do something like this. Don't blame him because he is 'Goth', blame him because he"s a 'murderer'. Don't blame the goths..
I love at the point where he's talking about "would it be a rap murder?" they enlarge the font on "GOTH MURDER MADNESS"
Voltaire made some valid points. He's right about the whole "goth murder" headline. Would it be considered a Goth Murder if it was a rapper was involved? What is it about this murder that makes is a Goth murder istead of a murder?
Glad to see this,being Conservative and a Christian/slightly Goth I don't necessarily advocate for Fox and they don't speak for me and my experiences or anything related to them. The reporters were biased to an extent but they asked good questions as well and everyone involved did a great job and was cordial.
To think I found out about him through Billy and Mandy
I love how he asks, "Did you address that in your book?" which make it just so obvious he didn't even bother to thumb through it. What he addressed is how to make cakes and decorate! XD
I like the subtly placed " Fuck you, fox, your stupid" that is so subtle, you can't tell Voltaire said it around 3:31
that was the most well mannered kick in the teeth ive ever seen delivered when he asked "if he was a country enthuisiest or a rap enthuisiest, would the headline say country murder or rap murder instead of goth murder?"
That was his point. He was saying "Had the kid been into rap, would they be calling it a Rap Murder?" He was saying that Goth/Rap/Country/etc isn't relevent in this case, just the kid.
I still think Voltaire looks like Bal from Stargate SG-1
I have to shake my head a little at the way the man pronounces 'Voltaire'.
Specifically because he makes it sound like it's a pseudonym Voltaire picked to sound 'mysterious'. Of course in reality, it's actually just his name: Voltaire Hernández.
The philosopher of the same name, however, WAS using it to sound mysterious.
The song BRAINS!, which is the one I assume you are referring to, was written for an episode of the Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy. The episode in question featured a brain-eating space rock. Not cannibalism. And anyway, they are two different things. Like, if... I dunno, peanut-butter cookies were near and dear to me, that doesn't mean someone who sings a song about them is one of my best mates. Bit of a stretch, I know, but I think you know what I mean.
@skepsi1992 i was going to post something, then i saw this. and i don't think i could put it better. i was shocked, frankly, about how calm and even Voltaire was; a very clear and concise representative of his thoughts and stance. kudos to him indeed :D
He didn't do it because he was goth. He did it because he's batsh*t crazy. There is difference. Get it right.
This is one of the few things about goths on fox that doesn't make me mad. Thank you for finally respecting that goth isn't evil.
Wow!! Schooled!! Way to go Voltaire. I'm not Goth, have never really looked into it, but that was such an eloquent, decisive, and direct rebuttal of Fox's small-minded preconceived judgments about something they knew nothing about
the worst part is: scott dylenksi had actually cut his hair to a more "mainstream" look shortly before the trial. So I have no idea why fox kept showing the photo of him with longer hair.
Voltaire is brilliant for having enough wit to defend a counter culture while taking a stab at Fox News, all while being taken credibly and not being cut short.
I think this is actually the most civil I've ever seen Fox News.
i liked the "youre the first goth ive met" bit at the end
I heard invader zim was part of this
psycho clown 96 LOL, BEST COMMENT!!!!! 😂
this man is a legend
i really like that voltaire disproves the stereotypes and that he gives all us goths a good wrap. ^^ the goths are very diverse
I love Voltaire and his music, it's awesome.
I have to say though, no one seems to remember that the Goths were also old Germanic tribes from around the time of the Roman Empire.
Is it just me or when he first appeared he looked as if he'd rather be anywhere else on the planet at that time? I think Voltaire should be the spokesperson for the goth community. Please run for president!
Nah, I think he named Country and Rap because they are both distinctly different genres from those that are associated with Goth. Goth actually got its start as part of the late 70s post-punk movement and now includes some punk and metal subgenres.
Besides, Voltaire, while popular with goths, doesn't play music that is classified under goth. His music is satirical and varies in genre. He has some that are somewhat rap, others that are somewhat country. I think he was just making a point.
Voltaire is definitely a great spokesman for the music and the mindset. He's wellspoken and seems to really *think* rather than just spew commercially viable emo nonsense.
Did you see the sign "Terror alert: elevated"? scary-scary-scary!
I like how he actually uses logic while the guy is asking questions like- "So are all Goths associated with Satan?"
Why do we look at people as if they are all just different factions?
We're all just people with different outlooks on life.
-Sean
"You're probably the first goth I've met."
To me, that sums the whole situation up. These guys don't have a clue what they're talking about and they use lables to sensationalise and create stories where none exists. Voltaire does an excellent job of establishing that media inspired fear of the goth look is completely unfounded and irrational.
One of my favorite things about this interview is that if you look at Voltaire from the eyes down, he looks perfectly average for a news interview. He's wearing a nice shirt, a tie, sitting casually, but not like he's bored. He speaks in a calm, intelligent manner, politely trying to inform these people without being rude. And then, you look at his hair, and you're forced to think that if it was paired with any face other than his, this would never have gone so well.
I think this was quite a good interview, the guy really knows what he is talking about, as opposed to a lot of people. It's important that people understand that Goth isn't an easy thing to define, it isn't the stereotype that people easily accept.
The 'Goth' image comes about through the extremists, people need to understand that it's really not about what they think it is.
if you look at the picture of the kid, he doesnt even LOOK goth. i mean, stereotypical goth is clean yet dark. that kid looks more grunge than anything.
voltaire's explanation of goth just makes him that much hotter. its the new romanticism.
Was THIS the conversation that inspired Voltaire to write Death Death Evil Evil songs? Because it would make sense.
Voltaire is wonderful.
I love that the camera flashed on him just as he was rolling his eyes at the correlation between goth and psychopathic murderers.
I'm glad that even in the few shorts years since this interview there has been less prejudice against the goth community. I'm not saying it's gone completely, but it's definitely not as rampant as it once was.
@slanis
(sry, I have to make a second part)
Gothic Rock was first, then the fans of this music formed cliques and finally a scene. But it wasn't until the end of the 80s that they actually called themselves "goths" and before the term gothic became trendy they were named "Waver" (especially in Germany). It is true, that it evolved into a lifestyle, but gothic is basically a music genre.
I hope you don't mind that I added this historical facts to your comment.
You are certainly a wise person. Congratulations on knowing that we arent stupid. Btw. I think Voltaires name is named after the writer François-Marie Arouet whos pen name was Voltaire
Points for Voltaire staying so reasonable and level-headed the whole time.
I love Voltaire, he's so intelligent and polite.
I'm not a fail researcher, I'm not sure if you add the fail, multiply it, or average it. I guess multiplying is out of the question, since multiplying win by fail results in more fail, so it's probably an additive property or an averaging property.
no one is emo anymore
BolnoyBratchny Welp, seems like everyone is emo now
The suspect (Scott Dyleski) was charged and sentenced to life without parrole. They were going to try to sentence him to death, but could not because he was only 16 at the time.
It's actually because Voltaire is his middle name, literally.
I love him. The comparison to New Romanticism was genius, and he's very insightful.