HERDING WITH ROUGH COLLIES
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The breed was initially bred for herding. These original collies were descended from localized variety of herding dogs from Scotland and Wales. The Rough Collie had been used for centuries as a sheepdog in the Scottish Highlands.
After the industrial revolution, dog ownership became fashionable. It is believed that the Borzooi was mixed into the rough collie, producing the longer more noble head. Today this is the the main feature of the breed.
Todays Rough Collies are more show dog than working dog. The breed has been developed to be an excellent companion animal and fits perfectly in most homes. If you are looking to herd with your Rough Colie, then you will want to seek a breeder who’s program is specifically breeding for herding instincts in their rough collies.
When it comes to protecting children, they are absolutely the best. I can attest to that because when I was a youngster, I had two trained German Shepherd try to attack me. My collie not only protected me but resulted in the two shepherds having to put down while he had only manner injuries. I will never forget that encounter because I learned what the only dog breed that I would trust with my children is a rough collie. Interesting fact about this collie was that he had a white star on his forehead. He was a beautiful tri-color.
Collies are wonderful! I love all dogs, but collies are something special! Love, passion, admiration and adoration forever!
We have three rough collies. Best. Dogs. Ever!
Collies are the most talkative breed i have ever met,my dog is talking non stop 😂But he is my best friend and really loyal,smart to i learned my rough collie sit when he was 10 weeks and it took around 5 min to teach him it
Same for me too. now my buddy is nearing 5 years but still a big hairy baby
I have two. One is, and one isn’t. My female is the calmest, most quiet dog I’ve ever been around. She was barely even playful as a puppy… she’s a wonderful house dog and loves my kids. She does however cry when we leave her and she cannot come along
I love the rough Collies. They have great beauty and they make great companions.
Love collies. I had a tri colored Smooth Collie and he was the best dog I ever had. He was very smart, and very loving. He loved tug, loved running, and loved sitting in the sun. He was very sociable, and loved his walks, loved playing agility. He also was very empathetic. He knew when I wasn't feeling well. He would rest by my side and just wait until I felt better . He lived until he was 11 years old. He died at the beginning of COVID. I miss him every day.
Best dogs ever. All the designer breeds, and all that shit, the Collies are an ancient breed. Best dog I ever had and I have had them all. Old broad. Finest breed to ever breed.
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LOVE ROUGH COLLIES. This is the ONLY breed for me. Mine is a rescue and she if the sweetest, nicest, dog I have ever had. Good video.
Me too.
Glad to hear you love collies. I had a tri Smooth Collie that I adored also. He was smart, very sociable, and very chatty. He would have several pitches of groans and barks it was like he was talking to me in his own language. This breed is my favorite also, but it is dying out of popularity because of a denser population and less room. My dog nd I played agility games and he loved his walks. I do miss him dearly.
My girl Sandy was the most beautiful collie. Best dog that ever lived. I miss her so much.
Your dedication to your videos is unprecedented. You uploaded this around 7-8am EST, which would be 4-5am your time. Great information, and great editing. My wife loves this breed, and she’s not a person who particularly likes having dogs. But she wants to own the collie. The first time she’s seen your channel was today. (She’s not a RUclips user like me.) but she’s hooked on your videos now. Kudos to you, man. Another great video.
I'v heard people say to me "I normally don't like dogs but there's something sweet about your Collie"... You'll fall in love with the breed after being around them for a minute.
One big correction; SMOOTH gene is dominant. If you combine a pure Smooth, that has no Rough lineage behind her, and a Rough Collie, you get only Smooth Collies. In countries like America where you can cross them freely (you can't do this everywhere, in some countries they are still considered two different breeds) almost every smooth has Rough Collies somewhere in their pedigree, usually very close. When the offspring gets the "Rough gene" from both of their parents, only then can they be rough coated. If the other parent is pure for smooth, however, all the offspring will be smooth coated in phenotype, but they will carry a rough gene. If this kind of smooth is paired with a pure smooth, all the offspring will still be smooth, and the offspring no longer carries the rough gene -> they become pure for smooth. If this kind of Smooth is paired with another Smooth carrying a rough gene, they will produce 50% Roughs and 50% Smooths, which all carry the Rough gene.
Agree.
Oh, this makes me miss my two late Collies.... wonderful dogs
Years ago, when our children were young and there were many young children in our neighborhood and all the kids were at our house, our Collie helped my wife and me, herd the kids in our yard. He would play with them and the kids loved him so very much.
Collies are the absolute best! I had two while growing up. This was so informative I loved hearing about the history of the collie.
Love this breed. I’ve owned a male and a bitch. Both were great family dogs. Also, great off leash jogging partner. They both enjoyed being part of the family. Very smart, quick learners! By the way, great watch dogs. Will not attack strangers but due to their bark and stare, most strangers stay away unless you tell them the dog will not bite. Love both of your Rough Collie stories ✌️
Thank you Zeke. These are beautiful working dogs.
Gorgeous dogs
I've had a collie for 8-9 years now hes an amazing dog
I love those dogs, they're amazing as well for work and for home and family. I had two adults and some puppies among the way. Very loving, very loyal. ❤️
1 time my Rough Collie ran to the park when she noticed there was a flock of geese and started to herd them. She had a lot of fun.😊
Beautiful dogs!
Every time I see someone with a Rough Collie I have to say: Hey what are you doing with Timmy's dog?
This woman has so much information. Truly intelligent. I love listening to her.
Thanks for this one. I love collies. We had smooth collies, back in our farming days, but I love rough ones as well.
Thank you Zeke! I love seeing herding breeds work, keep showcasing them!
I’m in between choosing another Aussie or going with a rough collie for my next service dog prospect and the choice is soooo difficult!
Lauren Serrano aussie
Annie the GSD I’m having such a hard time choosing 😭
My current SD is an Aussie and I adore her, but I also want a slightly bigger dog and I wouldn’t mind a bit less energy in the rough Collie (I currently have an Aussie and three border collies 💀)
Lauren Serrano if you’d like i would suggest trying a german shepherd or golden retriever
Lauren Serrano bit i would go with what you want to
Annie the GSD I personally don’t like German Shepherds for service work (for me personally) and my personality doesn’t really mesh well with Goldens and it’s much harder to get into tthe performance sports I compete in (like agility and disc) with a golden.
Please do standard poodle next! Theres a few breeders here in california that use them for hunting, therapy, search and rescue and even IPO.
That blue merle is beautiful!
This is an excellent video! My only gripe is that she mixed up the coat length genes in the beginning of the video. The gene to produce rough coated collies is recessive and the gene for smooth coats is dominant.
@Bruno There ARE more rough coated collies, but the trait for long hair in dogs is a recessive gene. My guess in there being many more long haired collies than short haired ones is that they were heavily favored in breeding and since two roughs can never produce a smooth, there just weren't as many produced.
Loved the video. U should totally do dogumentary on papillons. They're the best :)!
Roughies are BEAUTIFUL!!!
Love these dogs! It's a shame you don't see more of them as they can be such great family dogs. Gotta say though it was a bit painful to watch them moving in the herding clips. Their gate looks so laboured and all that coat as gorgeous as it is looks like it's adding so much weight and impeding the movement. That merle almost looked like it was limping when it was gathering up the sheep. Shoulder issues? You don't say.
Great to see the love of collies working in your pen
My Smooth Collie was a "chatty Cathy" also. He would moan, groan, chuff, and whine a bit. It was having coffee with your friend. He would let you know if he didn't like a person before you greated each other. It was amazing. I miss him so much. He lived to be 11 years old.
I am super positive the smooth gene is dominant.
You are 100% correct. :)
They are descendants of the Scotch Collie. The most intelligent domestic Dog breed recorded.
The "scotch" collie is the ancestral root stock of many "collie" breeds.
Excellent video!! Very informative. We love our rough collie
Thank you , well done!
The Australian Coolie/koolie came from Germany, arguably still from British shepherd dogs through Germany.
Love rough collies, but man the amount of barking they do and the pitch will get you moving lol 😂
I have a rescued AKC registered rough collie. She barks maybe 1 or 2 times per week when she wants something. My previous collie did bark but not all the time, she would notify us when someone was at the door, when told to stop barking she would stop. But yes they do tend to bark (speaking to their human) but the ones I have been around not that much barking compared to smaller dogs. Collies are the ONLY dogs for me and I have had many different breeds.
That PITCH :D Mine was a bit over the top with barking and squeaking as I can remember and his pitch is what I reacted to most when he was demanding something. Very thin and high for such a dog :)
@@jilledmondson6894 I'v had a rescued AKC rough as well. She barked a lot at first, but after only twice having to do this, she stopped. Have a small child's squirt gun filled with warm water. Tell them to quiet, if not follow the next order to stop and they don't with a light squirt (not in the eyes). I only had to do this twice. I've had her 7 years and love, love and love the Rough Collie. The kindest, smartest and sweetest animal.
No worse then my German shepherds and especially not as noisy as small dogs.....haven't seen any large dogs noisier then small dogs. They will bark more while playing or when they want something though.
I have four Rough Collie love them they have a relation that does sheep herding in the UK
@Dogumentary
Thank you once again
Niceto see a rough collie at eork but i have to say my tricolor was to laid back for that
Please do a video like this on polish lowland sheepdogs
Their beautiful. And stunning dogs i saw one at the dog park
Some rough collies have eye. My Kate did.
I have a pedigree hairless Chinese Crested who thinks he's real hot stuff and is actually not half bad at herding cattle and sheep. He copied my Australian Koolie Heading dog cross and manages to do pretty well on his own. CC's are a ratting breed, but you present him with a rat and he doesn't know what to do with it. At least he is quick on his feet and makes himself useful in other area's.
I herd a 400 sheep and goat flock with two rough Collies
Beuty creatures
Hey Rachael! Are you still working with Rough Collies?
I just got my 10th Tri Baby Girl. What a Joy!
If you HAD to pick 1 breed (and 1 breed only) from these categories, which dogs would you OWN? Here’s mine:
Sporting: Spinone Italiano
Herding: Rough Collie
Working: Cane Corso
Toy: Pekingese
Terrier: Cairn
Non Sporting: Shar Pei
Miscellaneous: Peruvian Inca Orchid
Hound: Borzoi
Sporting : Weimaraner
Herding : Australian Cattle Dog
Working : Giant Schnauzer
Toy : Italian Greyhound
Terrier : Jack Russel
Non sporting : Chow Chow
Miscellaneous : Dogo Argentino
Hound : Blood
Sporting: Clumber Spaniel
Herding: Rough Collie
Working: Newfoundland
Toy: Cavalier King Charles Spaniel
Terrier: West Highland White
Non Sporting: Shar Pei
Hound: Daschund
Miscellaneous: Mudi
Sporting: German shorthair pointer
Herding: Rough collie
Working: Giant schnauzer
Toy: Chihuahua
Terrier: Airedale
Non Sporting: Chow Chow
Hound: Borzoi
Misc: Kai Ken
Excellent companion , but is not as active as the gsd . Funny enough an excellent guinea-fowl hunter. Good with children. When we played outside he would lay down where it was the most dangerous spot e.g. when we played outside. An excellent comforter when he thought one needed comfort. Before I forget he loved to talk .
Rough coat is actually recessive (r,r), not dominant. Rough bred to rough only produces rough. A smooth coat (S,S) is dominant, which is why it can carry the rough (longer) coat as recessive. This is how you can breed two smooths (S,r) x (S,r) and get rough coated puppies in the litter. Two smooths that carry the rough gene would be genetically (S,r) bred to (S,r). This produces 25% S,S (pure for smooth), 50% S,r (Smooth carrying the rough gene) and 25% r,r (Rough coat).
Our rough collie Daisy continues to endear me to her. She loves our cold Edmonton winters, even in extreme cold (below -30°C or -22°F) she longs to be outdoors, and in the cold air she has seemingly endless stamina.
Collies are the best.
Can you make a video about the Dachshund (Doxie) (weener dog)
They're called Collies bc the sheep they used to herd was called collie.
Gee, I’d love to have a Collie; they are gorgeous and smart, little more mellow.
The smooth coat gene is dominant. Two smoothies can have a rough coated puppy and roughs only roughs.
Hi. My Collie passed away a year ago. Soon, I might be ready for my next one. Do you have links to resource that may have them? My last one, I had to drive from Los Angeles to Phoenix to find him. Thanks.
Very informative. Thanks!
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I WISHD ID HAD 7 COLLIES
Collie genetic problems are also why most in the Irish kernel association insist on tracking back through family trees to avoid any risks of inbreeding. Almost every rough collie and sheltie I've known with either a while coat and/or eye problems, you can trace their family tree back to find their parents share a grand or great grand parent. People seem to assume pure bread means keeping lines pure with good show dogs. It simply means breeding them with other collies with little to no known health problems, and after going back 3+ generations. It's simply much easier (and being honest, the puppies are worth more) to do so by taking two show dogs. As their lineage with definitely have been well recorded.
The problems we have in Ireland are owners who simply see it as a good/fun idea to have puppies, and take two random collies, or worse, do so not knowing to avoid breeding sables, tricolours, or blue merls together. Like someone who tried to register 7 completely blind and white puppies from a pair of sables with the kennel club a good few years ago. I believe none of them aged past 10 either.
Do you mean sable merles? Normal sables can be bred together with no issues.
Lassie Come home 😘😘😘😘
Great video. The rough coat is actually recessive, by the way. The rough coat gene is plentiful and usually sought after, thus the predominance of rough coats. But the gene for the longer coat is recessive.
Hi Teddy!
Maybe Collies get tired of sheep herding after some time because they are very sweet. They want to herd the sheep in a sweet way. But most of them just want to go where they want, so the Collies get tired. This is my theory. I am curious to get a Collie close to the Sheep without training and watch what the Collie would do. Maybe they would get only good pals.
I have a rough collie
My dog is a mix of collie, border collie and 6 other breeds
Nice video as always. Very very good presentation from the "herdi g school" lady. Personally, I dont see a reason to choose a rough collie I stead of a border collie for herding. The long coat of the rough collie would be hindering their herding ability. Their bigger size would make them economically less efficient. Especially in moderate or warm areas, like southern California, the warm climate would be an issue. Wouldn't it?. But really would love the idea of owning a dog of this majestic breed. Just to walk it around.
These poor dogs having to herd in Southern CA where it is 75+ degrees most of the year :/ they were bred for much colder climates, and if you shave them it absolutely ruins any further coat growth (although they will be cooler). Just a shame tbh they are such beautiful and intelligent dogs
There is a smooth variety of this breed that's practically identical in temperament and energy. They're not as pretty or majestic, but they're still just as amazing as the rough variety and they don't have nearly as much coat. Also, the collie's fur doesn't hinder its herding ability at all and if they live in warm/hot climates their fur will adapt to that. A rough collie that lives in Florida is going to naturally adapt a much shorter coat than a collie that lives in Alaska. They're not going to be miserable and die if they're not in a cold climate, like ALL dogs their coat adapts to the climate they're in.
Border collies are much better at herding. You might choose a rough collie if you don't care so much about herding but want a lower energy, less intense companion
phos Not necessarily, it depends on the style of herding that you're looking for and it depends on the individual border collie or collie. A border collie from a show strain probably isn't going to be a better herder than a collie from a working line and vice versa.
@@imaniwilliams816 I agree that it depends on the dog, but border collies have been used for herding for much longer than collies have. So it's only natural that because collies haven't been selected based on herding ability but instead on looks that they haven't retained as much herding ability. Border collies have only recently (comparatively) been selected for looks in the show ring.
but look at how cumbersome that thick coat is when herding the sheep
firestonegraywolf They aren't actually used for herding (only a few in the world as far as I know). They're developed to be good family companions :)
Well there is working line Rough Collies who shed the majority of their coat by summer and do reasonably well as long it's not really hot.
Most rough collies today are from show stock. Akc show standard is far from the working lines imo. If you look up old pictures of rough collies/Europe lines they have shorter coats then the show dogs. My guys are just companion dogs and have shorter coats.
Yes I agree, there are working lines in North America too. You just have to look for them (on farms)
I used to have a rough collie that liked to run off to the park so she could herd flocks of geese. That and threatened to kill any coyote/fox that came to my house. Now the coyotes are back in town, it seems to me I need to get a new 1. -_-
It’s not from the British isles, it’s
From Scotland
A Scottish Rough Collie 🏴
Collie name comes from an old Scottish type of sheep.
Pretty dog. From what I've read the smooth coated one would check alot of the boxes I've been thinking about. The smooth not having as high a grooming needs as the rough. My main concern is if things get rough will they do more than bark? I don't expect them to have as much power as a Rott or Dobi. But still if the wife is out riding her wheelchair,or if we get an RV and go camping will the dog actually protect if needed? I like that their not super super high energy. Land Lords will probably be less likly to give us trouble over a collie. But I still wonder if it will do more than bark if my family is attacked?
I feel the same way, though I prefer the rough. I just wish there were some lines bred for protection.
From my experience with collies, they will notify if a stranger is coming in your space without your knowledge. Also atleast mine is very good at reading people she loves most strangers but is wary of suspiciously acting ones. Once at night A guy high on something tried approaching us on our walk, she barked him away. I'd definitely say she can read a situation and the intentions of people.
My first dog was a collie chow chow mix, which is an amazing combination of traits. He wouldn’t hesitate to protect if he needed to, but was smart about reading people and not wasting energy when it wasn’t needed.
Too much of a good thing! I love ,love, LOVE collies, but, dang, the coats--at least in the showring--are way too long and fluffy! (I know males have more coat than females.)The British version of the rough collie is looking like a puffball! I wish show-ers would stop the shampooing and fluffing and just let the coat fall in its natural, beautiful lines. And some thinning and length trimming on the males wouldn't hurt either!
Can you do one on smooth Collies??
1:01 that dog must have some serious muscle cramps because he is running like that.
How does a long nose help a dog see farther?
My neighbor has scotch collies and I was lucky enough to get a female puppy, where does the scotch collie fit into the collie breed?
The dogs being sold as Scotch Collies today are crosses of Rough Collie, English Shepherd and other related breeds.
does a pointed snout makes less impact compared to a normal, if the dog must nip a cheeky sheep?
Cute dogs! Lame comment, I know. But I meant it!
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I really want a collie but I work a full time job. I got my first collie when I was 12 and I trained him to go off leash in a field and on our lawn in just 3 weeks at the age of 15 weeks. I work a full time job and I am going to give him 1 hour of field exercise in the morning and 1-2 hours when I come home. I will also be paying a neighbourhood kid to walk my dog around the block and play with him in my backyard for a bit. Do you think my dog will be ok.
Hello how are you? I would like permission to use an excerpt from the video in a post comparing sheepdogs.
I would rather have a border collie for herding.
This is my dream dog breed, since im a fan of lassie, but unfortunately i live in tropical country 😭
Can you please do a Smooth Collie video?
Please do a video on Borzoi
Can you do a working cocker spaniel or just like cocker spaniel in general 😁
what do u use for those slomo shots?
collie is an old English word for sheep.
The Sheltie is high energy more than a collie
Ja lol ey!
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COLLIES are
4th
Do they even have the grit in them to handle wilder non-pet sheep anymore?
None of them look great when I see them herding - It's a crime what show breeders have done to our working breeds.
i wishd 5 collies
Fist again Im lucky