At some point I got tired of "testing" Linux distributions in Virtualbox. It was like visiting different supermarkets with fancy things to see and get, and I always buy my good old beer.
go ubuntu if you just need a desktop OS, go arch linux if you want to learn your OS, and when you get to the cloud like EC2 run whatever the latest linux OS they provide because it will have all the libraries you need to integrate with their other cloud services. I also use the "node:12" docker image for building code on gitlab-ci. Well, at least thats some of the distros that I have chosen.
My opinion (I run Mint/Cinnamon): - If you're coming from Windows and generally like it, and want everything to work "out of the box," choose Mint with the Cinnamon desktop. It's got the exact same desktop layout and taskbar, though the icon graphics are completely different. - If you're coming from Mac and generally like it, and want everything to work "out of the box," choose Ubuntu with Gnome. It's got a very similar desktop, though again the icon graphics are different. - If you're setting up a server, and you have the Linux experience to set it up and maintain it, then choose Ubuntu Server Edition. It comes with only the terminal, no desktop GUI. - If you're corporate wonk setting up in an Enterprise environment who wants your hand held by a corporate buddy, choose Red Hat. - If you have an ancient PC that nothing will run on, choose antIX.
Mint doesn't come with GNOME out of the box. I remember trying to install GNOME over Mint. It wasn't newbie friendly, and when I got through extensions, the experience wan't worth it. Frankly, unless you're using Ubuntu, GNOME isn't mac friendly by default. Better luck with elementaryOS.
When working on a distribution trying to learn documents your steps with Error tricks and tips it would help you, and maybe someone else to look back for reference for an issue.
the best linux distro is the one you are using now and are happy with, for me its mint cinnamon, my brother it is mint mate and my wife it is elementary
@@mohanbarman5982 not really my kids are on windows, and macs, my brother is soley linux and l mainly use linux but do use windows and osx when l need to
This is a refreshing take on linux. Thank you! - now a question to this. Why do MSP companies have a slew of linux distros instead of focusing on just 1 type? No, they don't have a book of KBs about it in their system... it's more of asking 3 people for "super" support, and if it happens that all three are on sick leave, good luck! Thank you very much on a fresh attack on a topic that makes tech spicy. 👍👍👍
I am spoiled. Before Linux I had to reinstall Windows half a year or a year. With UBUNTU LTS I reduced it to every 5 years. Nowadays Rolling Release Distros are sooo tempting... (like MANJARO which seems to be a user friendlier version of ARCH like Ubuntu to Debian, or may I use GENTOO... XD )
Best distro? The one that works for you. I chose Peppermint, can't remember why, but it worked/works for me. Easy and quick to install and very stable. Great forum too.
Me personally for what I do with Linux I prefer CentOS for my servers, I mainly just spin servers for Minecraft or media sharing within the house that I use just a plain Windows 10 for. Depends on what I need the OS for. Everyone has a preference on a user level almost everyone has grownup with Windows and are comfy with it I would love to see the open source world take over but we can't control the future of every aspect of life.
@ 08:30 I ran into this problem just this week. Nagios, NRPE configuration had this, logging had USERID variable. What happened was, it was using port 113, and almost nowhere it is documented. Yes I found after I figured this problem (SSL Handshake error 5), that nagios site had documentation. But had to use tcpdump why it was failing. (We only had one port opened in fw, as per installation instructions of NRPE, so was hard to know why connection was failing).
I am not an IT person but I use Linux as my home desktop. I clicked on this video because I thought it was about desktops. Anyways, wow I learned a lot. Never knew any of this very insightful awesome video. I have to agree with you on Ubuntu people in Linux complain about it however it *JUST WORKS ALL DAY LONG* From a desktop perspective its just easy to use and incredibly reliable. You wont have printer issues, wifi etc. etc. just click and go. Updates are not going to break anything. It just works boring like you said. Lol They are all the same as well this one uses apt that one uses rpm blah blah blah. However, Ubuntu is just solid!
It does not run all day long at least not in my experience as a desktop user. As a server Distro I would Install Debian Stable or CentOS. Those are distributions that only use packages that are well tested and therefore very stable. In home usage the distribution does not really matter so much.
Clear as Mud,,, yep. But I guess that I'll just follow what you said about Ubuntu; Why bet against the winning horse? Thank you for this intro course. I'm just looking for a Windows alternitive.
Server vs. desktop is a big factor. OEL is cheap and supported.. basically an RHEL clone. Would never use it for a desktop. First time I’ve heard someone mention support as a factor. It’s a biggie.
I use kali for shits and giggles, but Ubuntu is just easier all around Ubuntu has a huge user base, runs just about anything popular, and with the gui version even gives you trouble shooting tips in the command line I wish I could wrap my head around Arch, but Ubuntu is way more user friendly
I've tried so many distros but overall ubuntu seems to have the best overall support. However currently using openSuse and I have to say it's really nice so far.
Yep, There may be thousands different linux distros, but when you want to settle and have something reliable, with large knowledge base and company behind it that takes care about "boring" stuff and not only putting flashy themes, there is really just few to choose from. Centos/Redhat, Debian/Ubuntu (and all its derivatives including Mint and POP_OS) and SUSE/Opensuse and maaayyybe Fedora (popular in nonprofits/education due to licensing policy). I know people are religious about Manjaros/MXes/Gentoos and others, but that is all just fun for geeks, not something for professional use or for someone who wants just a system to work and not mess with it. I was really impressed with Pop os. Should be same thing as Ubuntu, but it really is not - more polish, more kinks removed/fixed. I tried to install some linux distro on new Ryzen system with UEFI. Guess what, most of installers I downloaded (incl. ubuntu) just crashed without even getting to live environment that would allow me, a noob, to launch installer from desktop. Only SUSE and POP behaved properly. Live example: MX linux people brag about systemd horrors, but pop_os used it to even replace grub and it just works. MX while being 'proper systemd-free linux' crashes, unholy POP works. Now, when I sense religious (ie GEntoo/Arch/MX) vibe on distro's forums, I know to steer away. Stick to pros.
@@DJRYGAR1 I tried POP_OS, seemed a little laggy to me and didn't really like the overal theming. Wasn't all that impressed with it. After that tried Voyager Linux. Very nice looking and functional ubuntu based distro. Thought I found my home untill for some unknown reason it suddenly would only boot through the recovery menu. Backed up all my files to another drive and now giving openSuse a shot. So far so good but quite different from everything I've used before. Yast is really nice though.
@@NicB-Creations I like opensuse, but I always end up screwing something and not knowing how to fix it - deleting it and going somewhere else. Theming of POP is off putting - I agree, but that is first thing I always change anyway. Still, I think that distros with proper companies behind them are the way to go. Opensuse is one of those. Opensuse is different, but they have very interesting tools and approach to things (open build studio, automated distro testing, included nice tools etc). Also good implementation of KDE which is something I like.
@@DJRYGAR1 Well, I hate to say it but I'm going back to Voyager Linux. So far my favorite and very underrated distro imho. EDIT: Jep, after some basic personal tweaks Voyager is awesome. It's like Ubuntu but with a much nicer layout. After installing the nvidea drivers it's smooth as butter and looks more sleek and modern than any other distro out there.
@@NicB-Creations I will probably settle with POP and try to install KDE on top of it and see how it goes. I was really impressed by the speed they fixed new ryzen booting problems. I can make desktop look sleek myself, from distro I expect hardware support that I cannot improve myself. Not sure what you ment that POP is slow, to me it is blazing fast - probably depends of hardware config. (TBF all distros are fast for me)
What's your take on Bedrock Linux? Installing Bedrock Linux on Ubuntu (or any distribution) gives you freedom over package managers to an extent. For example, using pacman and yay on Ubuntu and installing Arch packages from Arch repos or AUR on Ubuntu.
I'm sorry if this sounds like a noob question. I don't understand why people should start with Ubuntu instead of Debian? If Debian is the fork or what Ubuntu is made out of, wouldn't it be easier to start at the beginning ?
Best distro for what? That's the question. What do you need Linux for? Some are better as a desktop, others for developers, and yet others for servers.
I started wondering a way to see what distro you're on regardless of where you go so you can work accordingly or if it's presented as a test to trick someone or something like that. You can see what distro and release you're on with lsb_release -d command.
I myself mostly stick to Debian based distros. It's just simpler as so many programs I use are only available in .deb packages (I'm not going through the pain of repackaging or even recompiling, I'll just save time and pick the distro that works for my need at the start). Though I do run Arch on my chromebook and not that long ago ran both Suse and Red Hat.
is there any way to trick your laptop on windows that you are running more ram when you only have 4 gigs of ram? my laptop doesn't like to do pen testing with kali linux and windows 10 virtual machine running to learning security on ethical hacking? I thought I had a good pc until now:( what kind of pc, laptop or cell phone, I also have raspberry pi3 to use for setting up ethical hacking?
Kali FTW!!! I mean on top of all the cool hacking you can do u also got a killer GUI and a dope dragon logo that will make you get out there and get the Kali dragon vinyls and stick em on your laptop :)
Why did you just not call it: Choosing a distribution for your business? Cause I don't want to run any server for A BUSINESS right now but have the most stable, universal linux system to do almost everything... Like learning programmation, editing, Excel, play games, go on internet, watching Netflix, play games, >>>return to windows to do 3D modeling with softwares which are not supported by Linux
I put linux mint on a Dell dimension 4700 with 3.5gb of ram and Pentium 4 Prosser with hyperthreding. What would be the best linux distro for an Acer aspire 5250 with 2gb of ram?
i'm stealing this joke from dara o'briain, but I'll say that listening to young dudes argue about which linux distro is "the best one" sounds like listening to 7 year old boys argue about what dinosaur is "the best one"
Hey Eli, Here's an odd Question: Is there any way possible to hack the ram I used on my router in order to gain access to my home network? I live next door to some sketchy hackers and my recent amazon packages which have included my new router's ram have been filtering through their house. I installed the new ram and my router started acting weird so I removed it. Do you or anyone know if this is possible? JUST WONDERING. I am returning the ram cuz i just don't trust these sketchy fuckers!
At some point I got tired of "testing" Linux distributions in Virtualbox. It was like visiting different supermarkets with fancy things to see and get, and I always buy my good old beer.
Yes, eli is excited once again!
Its just Nostalgic to hear you talk ;)
dude just say Debian... We all know you were itching to do it.
of course it's Debian, it always was and always will be.
NOPE. RedHat.
Ubuntu is Debian's Raped version. I'll stick to the virgin one without all the added junk and instability i dont need.
I loved your construction example
go ubuntu if you just need a desktop OS, go arch linux if you want to learn your OS, and when you get to the cloud like EC2 run whatever the latest linux OS they provide because it will have all the libraries you need to integrate with their other cloud services. I also use the "node:12" docker image for building code on gitlab-ci. Well, at least thats some of the distros that I have chosen.
Eli the Computer Guy, dishing out the Linux wisdom! Cheers!
I really enjoy watching these videos about Linux...
My opinion (I run Mint/Cinnamon):
- If you're coming from Windows and generally like it, and want everything to work "out of the box," choose Mint with the Cinnamon desktop. It's got the exact same desktop layout and taskbar, though the icon graphics are completely different.
- If you're coming from Mac and generally like it, and want everything to work "out of the box," choose Ubuntu with Gnome. It's got a very similar desktop, though again the icon graphics are different.
- If you're setting up a server, and you have the Linux experience to set it up and maintain it, then choose Ubuntu Server Edition. It comes with only the terminal, no desktop GUI.
- If you're corporate wonk setting up in an Enterprise environment who wants your hand held by a corporate buddy, choose Red Hat.
- If you have an ancient PC that nothing will run on, choose antIX.
Mint doesn't come with GNOME out of the box. I remember trying to install GNOME over Mint. It wasn't newbie friendly, and when I got through extensions, the experience wan't worth it. Frankly, unless you're using Ubuntu, GNOME isn't mac friendly by default. Better luck with elementaryOS.
@@lucidtheming3190 That's why I use Cinnamon desktop :-) I'll update my answer...
@@HungryGuyStories cinnamon is most definitely a solid experience for Windows users.
Thank you Eli for this video. Other self-claim "tech" do not explaing things like this because they can't be "bother" to.
When working on a distribution trying to learn documents your steps with Error tricks and tips it would help you, and maybe someone else to look back for reference for an issue.
I might had never dropped out of high school if I only had one teacher who thought as good as Eli.
They are few and FAR between.
the best linux distro is the one you are using now and are happy with, for me its mint cinnamon, my brother it is mint mate and my wife it is elementary
Mint Cinnamon is the best overall.
@@davidmock1152 Looks like you missed the point of my comment.
Wow linux family
@@mohanbarman5982 not really my kids are on windows, and macs, my brother is soley linux and l mainly use linux but do use windows and osx when l need to
@@debeeriz wow a nerd family
BTW, I run Arch. The Logo has been treating me very well and it looks AMAZING. Lol.
@@00zian00 I would tend to agree, but I was making light of how he said many people choose their distro because of the logo. And I happen to use Arch.
That Debian logo is badass though. It's like something a serial killer would carve into their victims... >.> _Dark City_
@@00zian00 I always thought that too.
This is a refreshing take on linux.
Thank you!
- now a question to this. Why do MSP companies have a slew of linux distros instead of focusing on just 1 type?
No, they don't have a book of KBs about it in their system... it's more of asking 3 people for "super" support, and if it happens that all three are on sick leave, good luck!
Thank you very much on a fresh attack on a topic that makes tech spicy. 👍👍👍
Really digging this series
I am spoiled. Before Linux
I had to reinstall Windows half a year or a year.
With UBUNTU LTS I reduced it to every 5 years.
Nowadays Rolling Release Distros are sooo tempting...
(like MANJARO which seems to be a user friendlier version of ARCH
like Ubuntu to Debian, or may I use GENTOO... XD )
Best distr - debian
Best distro? The one that works for you. I chose Peppermint, can't remember why, but it worked/works for me. Easy and quick to install and very stable. Great forum too.
yessss the best very quick and stable
We watch your videos because your one of the best.
Me personally for what I do with Linux I prefer CentOS for my servers, I mainly just spin servers for Minecraft or media sharing within the house that I use just a plain Windows 10 for. Depends on what I need the OS for.
Everyone has a preference on a user level almost everyone has grownup with Windows and are comfy with it I would love to see the open source world take over but we can't control the future of every aspect of life.
Linux mint mate is the distribution i like , because my laptop fan make lessssss lesssss noise than other distribution and versions
@ 08:30 I ran into this problem just this week. Nagios, NRPE configuration had this, logging had USERID variable. What happened was, it was using port 113, and almost nowhere it is documented. Yes I found after I figured this problem (SSL Handshake error 5), that nagios site had documentation. But had to use tcpdump why it was failing. (We only had one port opened in fw, as per installation instructions of NRPE, so was hard to know why connection was failing).
I am not an IT person but I use Linux as my home desktop. I clicked on this video because I thought it was about desktops. Anyways, wow I learned a lot. Never knew any of this very insightful awesome video. I have to agree with you on Ubuntu people in Linux complain about it however it *JUST WORKS ALL DAY LONG* From a desktop perspective its just easy to use and incredibly reliable. You wont have printer issues, wifi etc. etc. just click and go. Updates are not going to break anything. It just works boring like you said. Lol They are all the same as well this one uses apt that one uses rpm blah blah blah. However, Ubuntu is just solid!
It does not run all day long at least not in my experience as a desktop user. As a server Distro I would Install Debian Stable or CentOS. Those are distributions that only use packages that are well tested and therefore very stable. In home usage the distribution does not really matter so much.
Great Linux video, learning a lot thank you:-)
24:00 pants analogy hahaha best comparison ever
I love eli-isms 🤗
Clear as Mud,,, yep. But I guess that I'll just follow what you said about Ubuntu; Why bet against the winning horse? Thank you for this intro course. I'm just looking for a Windows alternitive.
Server vs. desktop is a big factor. OEL is cheap and supported.. basically an RHEL clone. Would never use it for a desktop.
First time I’ve heard someone mention support as a factor. It’s a biggie.
but THIS ANSWERED ALOT ! :)
thank you. 👍
Finally thx for the vid man.
I use kali for shits and giggles, but Ubuntu is just easier all around
Ubuntu has a huge user base, runs just about anything popular, and with the gui version even gives you trouble shooting tips in the command line
I wish I could wrap my head around Arch, but Ubuntu is way more user friendly
The best is Gentoo, hands down. You can install it on a ps1 if you want. Gentoo is to linux what C is to programming. It is the beginning and end.
Install gentoo.
I've tried so many distros but overall ubuntu seems to have the best overall support. However currently using openSuse and I have to say it's really nice so far.
Yep, There may be thousands different linux distros, but when you want to settle and have something reliable, with large knowledge base and company behind it that takes care about "boring" stuff and not only putting flashy themes, there is really just few to choose from. Centos/Redhat, Debian/Ubuntu (and all its derivatives including Mint and POP_OS) and SUSE/Opensuse and maaayyybe Fedora (popular in nonprofits/education due to licensing policy). I know people are religious about Manjaros/MXes/Gentoos and others, but that is all just fun for geeks, not something for professional use or for someone who wants just a system to work and not mess with it.
I was really impressed with Pop os. Should be same thing as Ubuntu, but it really is not - more polish, more kinks removed/fixed. I tried to install some linux distro on new Ryzen system with UEFI. Guess what, most of installers I downloaded (incl. ubuntu) just crashed without even getting to live environment that would allow me, a noob, to launch installer from desktop. Only SUSE and POP behaved properly. Live example: MX linux people brag about systemd horrors, but pop_os used it to even replace grub and it just works. MX while being 'proper systemd-free linux' crashes, unholy POP works. Now, when I sense religious (ie GEntoo/Arch/MX) vibe on distro's forums, I know to steer away. Stick to pros.
@@DJRYGAR1 I tried POP_OS, seemed a little laggy to me and didn't really like the overal theming. Wasn't all that impressed with it. After that tried Voyager Linux. Very nice looking and functional ubuntu based distro. Thought I found my home untill for some unknown reason it suddenly would only boot through the recovery menu. Backed up all my files to another drive and now giving openSuse a shot. So far so good but quite different from everything I've used before. Yast is really nice though.
@@NicB-Creations I like opensuse, but I always end up screwing something and not knowing how to fix it - deleting it and going somewhere else. Theming of POP is off putting - I agree, but that is first thing I always change anyway. Still, I think that distros with proper companies behind them are the way to go. Opensuse is one of those. Opensuse is different, but they have very interesting tools and approach to things (open build studio, automated distro testing, included nice tools etc). Also good implementation of KDE which is something I like.
@@DJRYGAR1 Well, I hate to say it but I'm going back to Voyager Linux. So far my favorite and very underrated distro imho. EDIT: Jep, after some basic personal tweaks Voyager is awesome. It's like Ubuntu but with a much nicer layout. After installing the nvidea drivers it's smooth as butter and looks more sleek and modern than any other distro out there.
@@NicB-Creations I will probably settle with POP and try to install KDE on top of it and see how it goes. I was really impressed by the speed they fixed new ryzen booting problems. I can make desktop look sleek myself, from distro I expect hardware support that I cannot improve myself. Not sure what you ment that POP is slow, to me it is blazing fast - probably depends of hardware config. (TBF all distros are fast for me)
Thanks Eli!
What's your take on Bedrock Linux? Installing Bedrock Linux on Ubuntu (or any distribution) gives you freedom over package managers to an extent. For example, using pacman and yay on Ubuntu and installing Arch packages from Arch repos or AUR on Ubuntu.
Why not just build from source?
I like Kali cuz the dragon's neat.
I'm sorry if this sounds like a noob question. I don't understand why people should start with Ubuntu instead of Debian? If Debian is the fork or what Ubuntu is made out of, wouldn't it be easier to start at the beginning ?
cool thanks for your work...
Best distro for what? That's the question. What do you need Linux for? Some are better as a desktop, others for developers, and yet others for servers.
Free Software is free if you have free time.
Any openSUSE users??
I used it for about 6 months. Then I distro hopped for a while and then settled down with Manjaro.
I started wondering a way to see what distro you're on regardless of where you go so you can work accordingly or if it's presented as a test to trick someone or something like that. You can see what distro and release you're on with lsb_release -d command.
I miss that time when this dude was sane.
😆best comment here
Possible guide on securing ubuntu for those who value privacy highly? Might be more personal a use case rather than what businesses value
FreeBSD isn’t technically Linux right?
Ha it's gentoo obviously!
Iv'e been using manjaro for the past month and Iv'e been liking it kek.
Memejaro.
gg
Eli to improve u need to add graphical notes , diagrams, pictorial representation to make people understand.....
I myself mostly stick to Debian based distros. It's just simpler as so many programs I use are only available in .deb packages (I'm not going through the pain of repackaging or even recompiling, I'll just save time and pick the distro that works for my need at the start). Though I do run Arch on my chromebook and not that long ago ran both Suse and Red Hat.
Mint all the way.
is there any way to trick your laptop on windows that you are running more ram when you only have 4 gigs of ram?
my laptop doesn't like to do pen testing with kali linux and windows 10 virtual machine running to learning security on ethical hacking?
I thought I had a good pc until now:( what kind of pc, laptop or cell phone, I also have raspberry pi3 to use for setting up ethical hacking?
Great vid.
Kali FTW!!! I mean on top of all the cool hacking you can do u also got a killer GUI and a dope dragon logo that will make you get out there and get the Kali dragon vinyls and stick em on your laptop :)
The eli9000 is in overdrive
Damn he did this click bait STILL, 1 day right after thst good one othet video.
13:36 what happens if you get fired 😅😅😂
Real Linux professionals only use Arch. Stability be damned we need bleeding edge over here.
Why did you just not call it: Choosing a distribution for your business?
Cause I don't want to run any server for A BUSINESS right now but have the most stable, universal linux system to do almost everything... Like learning programmation, editing, Excel, play games, go on internet, watching Netflix, play games, >>>return to windows to do 3D modeling with softwares which are not supported by Linux
I put linux mint on a Dell dimension 4700 with 3.5gb of ram and Pentium 4 Prosser with hyperthreding. What would be the best linux distro for an Acer aspire 5250 with 2gb of ram?
Either Ubuntu Mate, or Xubuntu. I'd add Lubuntu to the list, but in today's day and age, it's more unusable than usable
void linux , i use it on an acer 5610 with 2gb ram , great didtro for a great laptop . working good since 2007
I just found this channel. As i waych the videos on here i get more and more excited. Its official im a tech nerd now. This is my new porn lol
I only want to learn Linux because I'm getting into cybersecurity , is knowing Linux necessary for cyber. ?
Pretty much, yeah.
Nice video. Now could you do one on Google Fucshia? :)
Ubuntu. Interesting.😃
i'm stealing this joke from dara o'briain, but I'll say that listening to young dudes argue about which linux distro is "the best one" sounds like listening to 7 year old boys argue about what dinosaur is "the best one"
Clear Linux?
WOW!
HA, jokes on you eli i'm not wearing pants!
Albino is the best distro ;-)
never heard of it , what is it built on?
let me predict.... Oracle Linux
Hey Eli, Here's an odd Question: Is there any way possible to hack the ram I used on my router in order to gain access to my home network? I live next door to some sketchy hackers and my recent amazon packages which have included my new router's ram have been filtering through their house. I installed the new ram and my router started acting weird so I removed it. Do you or anyone know if this is possible? JUST WONDERING. I am returning the ram cuz i just don't trust these sketchy fuckers!
Where's all the skinny jeans fanboys that always say, "by the way I use Arch"?
that really is a fantastic hilarious phenomena
centos was the big deal
btw i wear arch pants ;P
Haha I’m gonna use 100 different distributions! Yeah give me one distro that works and I’ll implement 100 times to save my time and cost!
Linux Mint Cinnamon is all you need.
Maybe raspbian
you mean raspbian?
desktop fedora
server fedora/centos
container alpine
beagle bone debian
Desktop-Mint!
hahahha you are so cool dude
Best Linux distro? The Linux compatibility layer of FreeBSD :p
Thanks for this content. Continue with that and forget RUclips please :)
This is for all the people who disliked this video
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Gentoo is not distribution but using Gentoo i can build every linux i need just ez.
Blah blah blah.
Arch