Black CEO says he was shocked by credit union's controversial decision
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- Опубликовано: 13 дек 2023
- The largest credit union in the US has the widest disparity in mortgage approval rates between White and Black borrowers of any major lender, a trend that reached new heights last year. CNN's Rene Marsh reports. #CNN #News
THIS is what institutional racism looks like. I don’t want to hear anymore talk about a “post-racial society.” Racism remains a core part of American society. Period.
LOL sure it does. Black wealthy CEO cries racism.
@@double_joseph327yeah one person surviving a rare disease means everyone should survive it. That's you, that's how dumb your argument is. If one black person is successful, racism can't exist is literally the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
@@double_joseph327 there is truth in your statement don’t matter how much money a Blackman has he still can’t buy what he wants because of racism, proof you said it…….
@@double_joseph327Since when has one’s wealth been an immunity to racism? I guess the terroristic demolishment of Black Wall Street wasn’t based on racism either, huh?
Did you protest for hamas also?
When I lived in Cincinnati, one of my black colleagues who was a Plant Manager at the time was denied a mortgage. He ended up writing a check for the house. Can you imagine turning down a buyer who had enough cash to buy the house outright? This is a widespread problem and is an example of structural racism.
But...but Tim Scott says that's not so. It's all good in the neighborhood! 🙄
You mean Mr Ed, when referring to Tim Scott! He must of forgotten they hate the people that look like him! 😂😂😂
Being able to write a check doesn't mean that much. Debt obligations matter. I can have $500,000 in my checking account, but owe $1,000,000 on my mortgage and another $1m in divorce settlement, another $1m in backpay to my employees, another $1m in back taxes, etc.
People don't seem to grasp that the thing that gets you a loan is proven ability to repay it, not what you have sitting around, unless you're signing it over as collateral.
Lol, so credit means nothing to you?
@@leok7193while what you said is true I was turned down for a small loan for my business recently. My credit is close to 800 and i made over $400,000 this year. The loan was for 20,000 and my debt is under $20,000. One credit union said no and all the other banks said yes. I decided to pay cash.
There needs to be a class action lawsuit to put corrupt companies like this out of business. In this day and age this should not be happening.
put the corruption out of business, not the company and ALL of it's employees. etc.....makes it harder, for sure.
Good luck 😞
@@indymg4456Exactly. Good luck.
credit unions are owned by their members - so your lawsuit only hurts members
have you not learned by now that this is just more propaganda to stir up anger and ratings ?
@mike60521x how much do you know about ppl's personal experiences? Especially someone like me, a highly paid nurse with excellent credit and barely owing anyone anything?
I had the same issue this fall. I was approved by navy federal (I have a letter) then once I found the home they denied me. Good thing I didn’t pay Ernest. I make over $90k from salary not to mention passive income from two rental properties. At the time I applied my credit score was around 790 (it’s 826 now). I had $80k in liquid cash. They pulled their approval because of my “debt to income”. I have two mortgages on my rental properties and make $4600 in revenue from them monthly. I still bank with them, but I’m leaving. I already closed my business accounts, my second checking account and my money market. I’ll be gone within the next few weeks once I decide on a good bank.
Stay away from Wells Fargo, BOA, Truist and Chase. PenFed is a great option, been really good to me. 👍🏾
Hard to find a good bank as a black person. .
Take your business somewhere else where you will be treated like a valued customer! Don't stay with them!
@@YasukeNakamoto Support Black Banks. Google the list
You have two rental properties? Are they paid off? If not then that's why they denied you
52% Disapproval is NOT an accident.
It's a design.
Naw it's accident
Its the american way, please remember they never apologize for slavery
You are correct. It's not an accident. It's because Black people have lower credit scores. It's that simple.
@@garagedoorrus who the fuck are we supposed to apologize to? And don't you think the black African tribal chiefs who sold Black people into slavery should apologize first?
Just remember folks: companies like this will quickly lend to black applicants for cars, vacations and the like. Try getting a small loan to expand your small business and it’s a different story.
You hit the nail on the head,💯💯💯 on that!
Because a house costs 400k and all those other things are less than 50k. Maybe it’s because the white applicants have a stronger credit history and less debt. These are products of being black in society that was racist. Whites are trying to even the playing field and open up more opportunities but only to the blacks who want it (even then they are still met with racism sometimes). Once blacks establish themselves better financially in society then the disparity of credit applications should even out. Until then common sense says “hey, if blacks were held back for 150 years then I’m sure they aren’t going to be approved for loans as much as whites” it’s not on the banks though to take that risk, it’s on blacks to prove they are worth that risk. Just like it’s on whites (and everyone else) to prove we are worth that risk
It's all by design.
Remember the time where they stated blacks don't make the same money as whites due to higher education attainment?
Fast forward to today and even with higher educational attainment, a white with only a high school diploma will do equally or better than a blk with college degree.
They will cite all kinds of reasons: well it's because of this; no because of that, etc.
Truth is as long as they remain the gatekeepers to success 🙌, blacks in general will continue to be at the bottom by design no matter what we do.
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I've never seen so many victim complexes in my life. Improve your credit score and debt to income ratio and you'll be approved! Nowhere on these applications are a box where you have to check your race! If a white person with the same info came in and wanted a loan he'd be denied too
Why vacations? I could even see a car because that's an asset that can be repossessed. But why vacations?
Here's the thing. Most credit unions and banks have actual human beings that work for them. These people at some level have the ability to manipulate things at their leisure, as well as see a particular name or kind of name and deny, approve, sign off on, Google and look for a face or picture on a Facebook or Instagram account and do so as they please. People are working together. We shouldn't be surprised. And I don't wanna hear nothing about a credit score or debt. Let's stop playing games and gaslighting. We all know what time it is.
THAT IS CORRECT!! There needs to be some sort of legal rule or process created whereby THE UNDERWRITERS WHO DENY THESE LOANS have to attach their names to the denials and input their approval/denial information after each loan is processed into a government database for discrimination-tracking purposes.
@@VegasElement That's an excellent idea.
This story is true. Navy Federal Rejected my mortgage application. My credit score was 804. It was so sad. Thank God I got my mortgage application approved from a different lender. Navy Federal should be investigated for other potential applicants
Nonsense. You were asking for a mortgage on a house you could not afford.
Are you guessing? You know this how?@FreshLounger
They actually finished this investigations and found race was not a factor in any of the application. There are numerous considerations when taking out a loan such as income per year, Debt, Credit history ect. I have Navy federal and was rejected numerous times. My credit score was 800 like yours but I did not have enough credit history so I started using a credit card and paid it off in full each month. Two years later I was finally approved for a loan. When I was in the military I would see people all the time waste money on fancy jewelry, cars, ect than they would complain why they got rejected because they had a lot of debt or had no credit history...Some people in the military also live way above their means and if you look at the officers they are mostly white and officers make the most money so it kind of makes sense why there is a huge gap in the approval rating between whites and blacks. People need to stop playing the victim card and take control of their financial situation.
@@FreshLoungeryou sound like you eat paint chips all the time did you not READ what he wrote he got approved by another lender stop being a dumbass good lord clearly he had the cash flow and money to afford a mortgage
We can give our blood and our lives for a country that won’t even give us a mortgage that we qualify for! Pure evil!
Nothing wrong with building a house and living off in the woods
@@JessicaAlvarez-kg1bo🙄
The story is about conventional loans not VA loans.
@@JessicaAlvarez-kg1bo Dam, you're hateful.
You don't qualify for the fucking mortgage if you have a bad credit score.
Navy Federal Credit Union did this me back in 2014, I even had a 780 Score. I was on my last year in the Army after 27years. The issue came for after i had a $800 default credit back in 1997 when their was issue with my pay from Army for a few months. I even went into a local shop with Army documents showing them it was their fault about my pay and would be restoring my pay in 60 days. Navy Federal didn’t want to hear that. However, another Soldier(white) who years later didn’t pay his $5000 credit card bill and it went to collections and he only paid $1300. When I ran into him back in 2016, he was just building a house near my neighborhood and was approved with Navy Federal. They are institutional racism in their system.
@beekaye1496. Your story and this one imply that NFCU needs to be investigated from keel to conning tower.
They prefer war criminals
@@floydjohnson7888Investigated for what racism injustice and inequality is baked in nothing will change
Wear rascism glasses and you'll see rayscism. You could just pay your bills or deal with the consequences of not paying them.
@@symbol8246always one of yu in the comments looking for attention
If I had a choice I would bot even buy a home in the US. Homes here are made of cheap material and marked up for maximum profit. Imagine adding discrimination to the list of headaches.
I've heard and personally experienced it. It's all about areas- Whites living in the area is marked "luxury" as black areas are marked "lowest school system scorings"
My ex husband was approve for a mortgage loan. After he was assigned a realtor from Navy Federal and started he official paperwork, they called him and said he was denied from the lenders. I told him something is wrong. His income is about 6 grand a month. I am glad they are being called out.👍🏾
I was told by my realtor to never go through navy federal credit union they are terrible. I remember the endless documents I would have to send in I was just beginning ai was like nope not using navy federal went to another lender was a breeze
I always say never join any Country's military that isn't willing to fight for you.
THAT PART! X 10000
Got my GI benefits, traveled the world, met great people and built my resume!!
This is all speculation they have zero proof . Credit scores were not used at all.
@@DrPhill96 Aside from GI benefits I have traveled to at least to 80 countries and my home is almost paid off and I didn't join the military.
👍
You don't have to join the military in order to travel and work. That's a big misconception.
@@lordvonmanor6915 - But I traveled for free. And my housing is now provided for oversees because of my value. It’s not even close. Hoorah!!! Terminal degree paid with my GIBill. Journeyman’s license provided by the military. Security Clearance initiated by the military.
Joining was my best decision. Leveraging my benefits was the second. Getting out was the third.
I literally got denied this year. I’ve been with this bank 11 years. I’ve gotten car loans, credit cards, personal loans, but a home loan NOPE. I’ve never defaulted on anything they have given me. It’s sad but this is America.
I took got denied after going through the whole process of being approved for a conventional HELOC . I've contacted them a couple of times trying to see if it was something different that I can do to consolidate my debts that I was initially approved for
Leave, bye bye.
Same with me, but I haven't tried for the home loan yet, although I am looking for a home right now to purchase. I have been with them for over 20 years. I hate hearing this. I am considering moving my change somewhere else!
@@mecyme the way my mind works is this is an issue everywhere it’s just hidden better at certain institutions… but I will tell you this, I remember gathering all my documents for this home loan, and everything that me and that person spoke about.. this was going to be my first home purchase and being honest I didn’t know much about the process … I remember we spoke for a solid hour and a half once I passed the first step and was scheduled for a phone interview with a loan officer…to just be denied and now this has come out. It makes me somewhat angry.. I’m sure they knew from the beginning they weren’t going to approve me …
Yup hai oh en to us last year and my husband served this awful country! We have enough income and our credit scores was at 766 and we been with this bank for 6y now get approved for everything else but nope not the home loan. Went thur credit union if New Jersey and was approved no problem where is the lawsuit coming cause they are discriminating against blacks on mortgages big facts
If you do nothing, they got a problem with you. If you try to do something, they still got a problem with you.
Way to man up NFCU…refusing to comment on camera. I just changed my direct deposit to another institution last week without knowing this.
Imagine living in a country were you always have to fight everyday, month, year, decade for equality. History shows that this will forever be a fight. Therefore, there is no reason for people to be shocked or surprised.
Imagine having to deal with people in a country having to gaslight you that it doesn't happen and never happened.
This has always been the outcome when white people is control of everything..
I pray china raises strongly where we will have better alternatives to the west.
@evos469 the gaslighting is the hardest. The people who don't have to see it swear it doesn't exist.
What do you expect? At one point black people were literally property to white people. You honestly think they will just give them the golden egg? No! They want black people to remain psychologically a slave.
Time for a major lawsuit.
@AndyGKaufmanhey, they wuz kangs an shiyut!
@@j.r.8592sand white people be like wE wAS vIkangz !!! You POS !!!
Go ahead and sue them based on fake news CNN so called report
More shilling for blacks by Whites (i.e., by useful idiots), where the former murders the latter at a X15 clip... Ah, the self-abnegating allure of ever more warmth and fuzz!*
time for reparations
These companies work for us and we should boycott that behavior.
Imagine having to fight these battles on each and every front of domestic life (e.g. Education, Health Care, Justice, Employment, Housing, Law Enforcement, etc.) Then, adding insult to injury, they attempt to gaslight it all away...
That's the major difference between the U.S. and other historically racialized countries with a record of persecuting minorities, like German and South Africa. The Germans and South Africans acknowledge their gross misdeeds and are somewhat embarrassed by them. In the U.S., caucasian amerikkkans simply deny, ignore, or justify racism with lies, actively dismissing real stories of their black countrymen. It must be exhausting for both parties.
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50% isn't an accident, that's intentional but them 400 years of slavery put us so far behind until its so unfathomable that it still exists. No matter how much black Billionaires are celebrated, its simply an individual achievement.
what would it take to make up for slavery? bc let's make it happen..bc it would no longer be racist or a hate crime to call black ppl lazy as hell
I don’t understand bigotry and will never allow it around me. 🇨🇦
@@I-dont-replythat’s the beginning of it, so it’s understandable to bring up. You people also want to erase history as if nothing happened
@@I-dont-reply saying someone said something and saying what people want are two different things! Reading comprehension is important and taught in school.
@@Underdog271you’re just a racist 👍
It's interesting that Navy Federal isn't accepting interviews to discuss the topic.
I think the 48% approval rate is still way too high! Don't let them outrage you! The truth is at least 85% of blacks should be denied, they have no staying power for their income, they are lazy, have no motivation and they are all involve in criminal activity!
Right! Rather insidious of them. They are begging for a lawsuit, that’s for damn sure!
"interesting" is NOT the word I'd use, but I understand what you trying to say.
Its interesting black folks wont acknowledge there are whole videos and podcasts by black content creators on how to lie to get membership in Navy fed and how to lie on loan applications, but black folks want to cry discrimination when the deny loans. Could it be the same scammers trying to get credit cards applied for mortgages and since its stricter requirements on mortgages that is the disparity seen during the 2021-22 statistics. Search EYL Navy FCU scam.
@@duancoviero9759 you people should be in jail anyways!
This is no surprise to the community
Decline to comment on their decision of a CEO is a red flag
Yeah, CEO's never drive companies into bankruptcy. They are always totally responsible and always make good decisions!
Well, although a Black person signed up to defend the country, they are still treated like a lesser person, American exceptionalism in practice
@nigelmcgiver2275 that's what I would think, navy fed is tough!! been with them 36 years
@nigelmcgiver2275 "it's business" doesn't mean anything, its all manipulated. that's why Don Trump faked his business valuations for 40+ years and ran for president as a "successful businessman" wheb he couldn't even tell the difference between 10k Sq feet and 30k Sq feet
@nigelmcgiver2275this guy has a great source of income! What are you even talking about
These loan approvals are pretty much automated and nowhere on the application is a box you check for your race. If your credit score suck and you don't make enough money you will not get approved. It's as simple as that. Race plays absolutely no factor in loan approvals. Please go find something else to scream racism at cause this is laughable to anyone that knows how the loan process works
@nigelmcgiver2275I guess you ignored the part of the video that said the house buyer was able to get a mortgage for another Bank immediately after he was denied by Navy Credit.
Similarly, if you are black and trying to sell your house, remove all family photos and anything that looks “ethnic” from the house before listing it. If you don’t, you are not likely to get the best offers. You also don’t want buyers agents to know that you are black. Never, ever be home when a buyer comes to see the house. Always arrange to be away from the house at least 30 minutes in advance of a tour.
Found this out the hard way...
Sadly, same for appraisals.
If you wanted the best offer maybe you should first change your name too a Jewish or ilalian name …..
Indeed! We are in a global System of Racism White Supremacy and it dominates all areas of people activity.
Fact
For all the people who say that black people need to stop whining about racism. Stop gaslighting racism that messes with our wealth. 😡
I hope there is a class action against Navy Federal.
No one ever stands up and enforces Civil Rights or after 200 years we would be much further along
Why? Why are we constantly surprised!? This is who they are now and forever!!
I think because he's African, he thought that working hard and having good credit would open doors, regardless of race. It's in my opinion that, like many Africans, he may have had the opinion that Black Americans didn't work hard enough to get ahead in life, but he got a wake-up call about the sinister practices against black people in the US. I wish him the best going forward.
Vert True, 👊🏾🇳🇬🇺🇸
@@ddrebrne3336 Hmm… Sad/True… 👊🏾🇳🇬🇺🇸
He's African. Maybe he thought he was different.
@@MaryJaneJones. REALLY??? That’s all you got from this???
He obviously served in some capacity.
He’s a successful Businessman/Entrepreneur.
He was dropping 100K as down payment.
He also spoke about how these sorts of obstacles can and will affect Families for generations to come.
Seems to me this experience is teaching him a lot about Europeans that he might otherwise not have understood or learnt in Africa.
There were MANY positives and you LEANED into the negative…
We have to learn to appreciate and celebrate little victories.
I’m saddened that he and his family had to experience this condescending and insulting situations
I’m happy, cos it will help Africans understand African/Black Americans more, 👊🏾🇳🇬🇺🇸
They denied me as well back in 2013. I turned in the same paperwork to another mortgage lender and was approved immediately. They even talked me into refinancing my car I had at the time. At the time I was still serving in the military and was using VA home loan.
I was approved right away, great to be white
Stop ignoring the elephant in the room
Ok... I'm not American. Do they see your skin while giving the loan? Is it possible black-American servicemembers just have worse credit? Black/red/yellow/white the money is always green in the USA. Why would they deny black applicants? What about Hispanic? What about indigenous?
I guess it's like the bathroom thing decades ago. Hate black folks so much that they'd spend the money to build separate washrooms and fountains. Just nuts. I can't imagine a banker in my country looking at someone with 100k down and a clean credit history and denying them because of skin.
I mean if I was a bigot and a banker I'd giggle with glee when I could take money from the group I dislike. "tee he he. It'll be 10 years before that will even touch the principle on this loan."
I legit can't wrap my brain around this conceptually.
My realtor was so upset because it took so long to close. I didn't think it was because of this but I guess the numbers don't lie.
@@DavidJ2222 Yes it is for you. Blessings on having the best color in the USA. I am sure you will eventually get everything you deserve in life.
Need to stop begging them to take our money.
I doubt you have any money or education.
I'd put MY money on that 😂💀
Don't be fooled or shocked. This IS still America! A lot of people let their guard down thinking this isn't the country it started out as anymore... even though there have been laws and changes made to try to make it a "more perfect union," there are still a LOT of remnants of the America that was established 248 years ago. We know what the words in that "Constitution" say but black people weren't considered in that (barely 35 of a person) and even though there have been strides made towards that "equality", we know that there are still far too many people who would like nothing more than for it to be like it was in the so- called "good old days"...
They denied me as a well. I did 25 years in the Army. Did 3 tours in Iraq. Took my business to my state credit union and was quite successful.
@nigelmcgiver2275 Charity? What is wrong with you?
@nigelmcgiver2275bot, i see you in every reply.
What does your time in the military or deployments have to do with applying for home loan? The fact that you're brining irrelevant information to the argument suggests why you might have trouble getting through standardized loan application.
@nigelmcgiver2275 Hadn't even realized I've been with NFCU 36 years and have gotten the blue letter of denial in those years, I knew I needed to improve my credit profile, never did think of it as discrimination though, Navy Fed and USAA are tough on your credit profile!!
@nigelmcgiver2275 They are ONLY a CHARITY for YT FOLKS!! The original applicants that do not even have or meet the requirements!!😏✌🏼
Not surprised by this at all. This is something that has been going on for years.
Decades
why do these fools keep joining the army?? They won't advance u even when qualified and you won't get the same benefits as everyone else. They deserve to be conned
@nigelmcgiver2275 Dumbass NFCU doesn't have a min credit score requirement.
@nigelmcgiver2275 didn't this guys letter state he had excessive obligations?? that is a reason to deny anyone under that standard I would think, you're a credit risk to them
@nigelmcgiver2275what makes you think black people have bad credit?
The best punishment for any business if they fail to serve a customer--take the business elsewhere. Screw 'em. Forcing a business to serve someone by legislation or court ruling may feel like a win, but in the end enough lost revenue will drive them out of the market anyhow...for the gentleman in the story and most everyone in the comments with similar stories they all have the same solution: get approved by another lender.
@CNN I was one of them. My wife and I applied for NavyFederal mortgage and purposely did not include demographic information. We both had scores of 791 and 803, own a business, work 9-5 having been on our jobs 15+ years and have the finances to support an adequate down payment and PTI. Got a pre-approval letter and everything. Hours after we got off a video call with their loan officer/underwriting team, we got a denial letter. I work in the financial industry, our application was ship-shape. Their reason for the denial, "we don't believe your student loan payment is as low as your credit report reflects, which could POSSIBLY hurt your DTI." WHAT!
This is what we refer to with institutional racism. For the most part we no longer typically see overt discrimination like it was in the 60’s but when you have a situation where black businesses are clearly discriminated against, retired black NFL players ( who make up 70% of the NFL btw) are denied compensation for treatment for injuries sustained during their careers, homes with previous black residents are underpriced in the markets, etc it’s safe for one to surmise that racism is still prevalent in this society.
Wyte liberals don't believe it exist. He is a fool for joining the army to begin with. Risking his life for these people 😂😂😂what a fool
@@MisterClassified-kk8jzYou said exactly what I was thinking; good point.
@@MisterClassified-kk8jz Easier to Maintain a good credit score if You're net worth is Huge.. Whites average 10 times the average Black households net worth...
@@MisterClassified-kk8jzif it doesn’t say that either you can’t make assumptions
@@ironeagle4274where is the data that supports his claim
For those who may believe this isn’t real, I suggest you read the book ‘The White Wall by Emily Flitter’. The banking and Finance industry has a very long and well documented problem of racial discrimination in the U.S. It’s too bad it’s still a problem in the 21 century.
Thanks for the resource.
Appreciate this
But asking for reparations is considered a ✋️ out ... no its jus giving us interest on what you owe us
I really hate that people still think racism doesn't affect black peoples ability to be financially secure and build wealth currently currently. I have a friend that works in Human Resources for a company, and she was shocked at the amount of racism in pay as well. Whites were being paid more with same skill sets. Also, most of this is done without any pushback because people generally don't discuss their pay. Also, some companies its against company policy to do so.
Many are Not surprised! Lenders ARE actively treating borrowers differently!!🤬
This is no surprise. It's done not only in mortgages but, in car loans. Also, even if approved a minority applicant will often get a worse interest rate with equal or even better credit scores. Honda paid a massive fine for this when caught by Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. FYI, RepubliCons want to completely defund the CFPB that looks out and investigates unfair financial practices like this.
True. I got approved with NFCU with no debt, 800 credit score, and they gave me a 5.75% loan ….back when everyone was getting 2.5 !!!! Never again!
What was the loan for and when was it applied for?
That's because they have bad credit scores.
@@cbenford i'm gonna call bullshit on that story. Where is your proof of your interest-rate was because of your race?
@@ajt8967 no it didn't. Not because they're black.
They do the same thing when doing a valuation on a currently owned home for minorities. A black couple (I forget where) had their home valued and it was much lower than anything in the surrounding area of similar size and condition so they tried again but this time removed all pictures or anything that showed what the race of the owners was and had a different evaluator and all of the sudden it was valued much higher
Facts. I saw that report.
I think it was either west coast or Pacific Northwest. Their house was valued at 800k then 1.3m. I seriously plan to do the same and have a white friend meet the appraisers
Because blacks make property value drop, more than likely because of all the bad eggs that ruin it for the good and honest black people
You're talking about this couple: ruclips.net/video/Gmsz3wqA-s8/видео.html
aka 'whitewashing' the house. Smfh
I left Navy Federal in 2013 due to the same issue. I had no issue getting my mortgage from another lender and have purchased 3 properties since.
and yet people still think "we're past it." Well, congratulations Bob Otundi you are officially a part of the American black experience. Welcome to the club. There's more to come...
This happened to me this past August with Navy Federal. I had the credit score (it was in the 700s) and I had the income. I had the preapproval letter and I was denied one week before closing. I was told that I didn’t have the work history they were looking for because I’m a travel nurse. Then when I got the official denial letter it stated that my credit score didn’t meet their standards or something. I was shocked but unlike this guy I should’ve just gone with another bank. But I was so depressed that I just put off my house search all together. I’m glad to know that I wasn’t alone in this. I’ll definitely quit working with Navy Federal now. I was really looking into getting my first home too.
Me too with 20% down
I hate that you gave up....I pray you get back to shopping for a home....God bless you and your family.
@@problactive285 thank you. I definitely plan to look again in the new year. I’ll just make sure to never work with navy federal again
@@user-kk9hp6sf3t Mortgage rates have now peaked and are scheduled to enter a period of downward adjustment. Plan accordingly
It had nothing to do with the color of your skin.
This is horrible. I’m a 34 year old black woman and I just closed on my first home on 11/22/23. I’m still trying to unpack my clothes and everything, lol. I feel so blessed to have been able to bust through this. It’s sad that this is still generally happening systematically.
Mind if I ask, what was your mortgage interest rate?
There's no proof just speculation for some clicks and views
Congrats! You are probably a W2 employee with valid income. He’s a business owner who probably claims zero income to avoid taxes.
@@double_joseph327 He ended getting a mortgage from a regular bank. Navy just turned him down coz his name was too black!
@@Blissful-es1kk Whites AmeriKKKa,
Same thing happened to me with navy fed… but the following month my husband and I are now in our dream home.
When we say it's INSTITUTIONAL this is what we mean.
I worked for a financial services company many years ago, and saw the disparities in Black and white. It was very blatant
This issue has been doing on for decades under the table. The credit score system is another example of this issue, as consistency and education is not available in all communities. Red lining is a real thing, especially in Texas. It’s literally written in the deeds on the property, not to sell the property to minorties.
No it is not written into the Deeds on the property. That's a lie.
Minority in legalese has nothing to do with race...it's about independence and knowledge!
@@DavidThomas-me6pi It most definitely was in Chevy Chase Maryland until the 80s. I used to work at Chevy Chase Bank
@@cheddarboyzz313 proof?
Pulling out all of my money & taking my business elsewhere. I’ve been having issues with this bank but this is the cherry on top for me. And to say that Black Americans aren’t owed reparations for slavery and continued transgressions post slavery is insanity.
I just opened an account
Who are kidding? I bet you don't have a dime to your name and don't even know what a bank account is. AND yes your not owed reparations or a dam thing! Leave if you don't like it here. I will pay your ticket and Sudan looks great!
@Theboss20244 FACTS!
First nations have been here first, treated WORSE and they still get their land taken away. What do you expect?
@@punchthem4582 Bet you don't have enough dimes to buy a ticket to SUDAN.
I've been a member of navy Fed for several years.. That's about to change
No one is surprised except the host😂
This truly happens.
@nigelmcgiver2275 your mom works the corner
This happens to people with bad credit...
*They have reliably the **_WORST_** credit of any group there is - not surprised.*
I think the 48% approval rate is still way too high! Don't let them outrage you! The truth is at least 85% of blacks should be denied, they have no staying power for their income, they are lazy, have no motivation and they are all involve in criminal activity!
@@j.r.8592 this happens to self employed borrowers all the time because they think they make 200k a year but on paper they write everything off and claim no income to avoid taxes LOL
CNN PLEASE KEEP LOOKING INTO THIS! Don’t let up!
I feel this is a blessing in disguise at this point.
Oh! I am so surprised! 😮 No, I am not!!!
It is very easy to move your money to a more respectful credit union. Close your accounts at Navy Federal Credit Union.
They're all the same
@@OneTakeTuberThey sure are! This is Amerikkka, NOWHERE is safe for black people...
The mere mention of discrimination with this particular bank has turned my head from them completely. My daughter is in the national guard which would give me opportunity to open an account. I now no longer want that access. Thank You Navy Federal for showing me your true colors.🤨
Hint, hint. They don't want you there either. You are doing exactly what they want you to do. Go away.
@@ButcherBird-FW190DYour statement proves you’re not intelligent. Because everybody welcomes money
Thr man had $100,000 to put down and still was rejected?????? Wow!!!!
Not just mortgage approval rates, credit card approvals too and credit line increases after never missing a payment over a year
Thats crazy. I got navy federal when i joined the navy. After i got out i continued to use them and started a career in govtech/IT. I was making over 130k with only 8k of debt, and a 740ish credit score and they denied my loan request. I was surprised really, so the second company i got in touch with to get a loan was more than happy to get me my approval and everything. They took my bank statements and info and was telling me I am golden, so i was confused by why navy federal rejected me especially being a long term member and having a car loan under them, thats never been late.
You Black?
Why do you think 740 makeyou qualified? It also depends on downpayment.
@ussreeves24 yall will say anything to justify your bullshit. 740 is more than qualified. You can get a mortgage with 100 points less. Also, a VA lonan has no down-payment.
Despite the stats documented on paper an before the eyes, there will still be those who will conclude race was not the primary factor. It is so ridiculous until it is laughable. U just have to grin and smile at how we can land on different ground with the exact set of truths.
I’ve been with NFCU for more than 30 years, and after watching this report, I’m reconsidering my decision to apply for a loan through this credit union.
its all speculation zero proof
They don't deserve your to use your money for all your working life just to turn you down when needed most. Oh no. Why hang in there longer when you know what they will do.
Navy Federal is the most honest and transparent financial institution that I dealt with. Tbh, their customer service is superb. CNN left many facts out (such as the fact that many of Navy Federal members are young armed forces personnel - or veterans - with limited income, high debt, and low credit scores).
This has been going on for years and years. This country is well aware of this practice. I'm sure, if they were serious about doing something about this it would have already been.
Glad you exposed this, it's just wrong in so many ways!
Exposed that people with bad credit get denied?
I think the 48% approval rate is still way too high! Don't let them outrage you! The truth is at least 85% of blacks should be denied, they have no staying power for their income, they are lazy, have no motivation and they are all involve in criminal activity!
what was exposed its all speculation
@@j.r.8592he had a 700 credit score and a 6 figure income. What more do you want?
@@j.r.8592
Shut up Poosy 😂
I often saw white individuals closing on homes much younger than my black friends even though the black friends had stable careers and were much older (like 10 years). Many stated they had been denied loans and were stuck renting at prices that were higher than paying for a mortgage!! It’s crazy!!!
This is nothing new. I hear about these types of stores almost every other year. People also report on the discrimination when getting their home appraised. Nothing ever changes.
Class action lawsuit has been filed.... the details so far are rather disturbing if true. Navy Federal should probably hire a very good attorney.
I'm still trying to figure out why any veteran or any person of color is shocked or surprised this has been going on for years when we were looking for a home we were only shown houses that we were told were good for us . We had some friends apply with a lower credit score and where approved
"It's something that's going to affect the generation all the way down to their kids." So true! I hope Geico is looked into as well.
Whites AmeriKKKa,
Oh yeah...GEICO. I remembered GEICO having a practice during the 1970s of steering Black prospects to its Crittenden Insurance subsidiary (I don't think this company exists now), which focused on insuring higher-risk drivers.
Oh wow, I never knew about Geico!
Love how they respond with a cookie cutter response. No surprise that another bank approved him. He had all the right criteria.
it all means nothing when they dont even look at the credit score
its pretty simple the other bank had riskier lending standards
Racism in lending has been an ongoing issue as well as in home appraisals. There was another story about a black family who was selling their home had their pictures on the walls and received a much low home appraisal. Then they took their pictures off the wall and got the house appraised again and received a much higher home appraisal. Shame on navy federal. I hope they clean up their racist practices.
My circumstances were the same; 6 figure income, preapproval letter, $83k downpayment, 730+ credit and two days before closing, they pulled the plug! Absolutely insane and didn’t think much of it because Agent didn’t think it unusual, but he was a minority too (so what did he not know)! Yeah……😡🤬 still got the house, but……
Sounds like class action lawsuits plus navy will cut ppl limits once lawsuits start going dwn
With navy credit union?
@@jarviswilliams2465 Community America Credit Union!
You had to be given a reason why they turned you down. What was it?
& it's always strange when there are sudden "concerns" at the middle and end of closings
It's about time, someone investigated it! As a vet myself it angers me so much!. Navy credit unit denied me as well.
It's A similar situation when car buying. In the end, A black person may get the vehicle. But the interest rate is going to be much higher than the White people who just left with their new car. Regardless of credit score or down payment. I speak from experience.
I’d never join a military for a country that doesn’t give a crap about me. I’m no bootlicker for this country.
It’s more shocking that he’s shocked. The illusion of inclusion will get you everytime.
He's an immigrant. If he was an American descended from slaves he wouldn't have been surprised. He'd be mad but not surprised
Important saying
hes from kenyan . HE believed the accent would over come the browness of his skin. Now he needs to put some Respeck on this racism.
A lot of people from Africa don’t know how racist usa institutions can be. Glad they have that experience
Amen
I was just thinking about opening a Navy Federal Credit Union account. I would rather continue to be discriminated against and exploited by major banks.
This sent me. 😂
I got denied by them TWICE!! I'm black, a Registered Nurse with good income... and a good credit score. Make it make sense Navy Fed. Smh
Shocking.
I would've never thought discrimination would happen at a place that helps veterans and active duty members
Navy Federal is not affiliated with the US Navy or any military institution. But it does have agreements that allows them to operate on military installations. Given the DoD's longstanding policies on discrimination with respect to contractors and vendors, I am surprised that complaints haven't been filed with the Inspector General.
I bet you dont think the usa is a racist country.
Oil companies and corporation's have been making record profits ever since the Trumpvirus and the Trump warp speed covid vaccine of 2020
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@@dmac7128yet, he wasn’t wrong on his comment
Sue them!
I think the 48% approval rate is still way too high! Don't let them outrage you! The truth is at least 85% of blacks should be denied, they have no staying power for their income, they are lazy, have no motivation and they are all involve in criminal activity!
They told me the reason for my denial was ‘ That after my monthly obligations, I’ll only have $5,000 left.
CREDIT SCORE DOES NOT EXIST ANYWHERE BUT THE US????
This is shocking! Who is monitoring the credit union?
If this is shocking, you obviously haven't studied history...
Kamala
@@theRealJohnnyAppleweed As a non-American I find it shocking. I mean, if I were a bigot and a banker, I'd feel gleeful forcing the group I didn't like to pay a loan wherein they won't touch the principle for 10 years.
@@DAndyLord Rembrandt, you're Canadian... Quit virtue signaling...
@@theRealJohnnyAppleweed You totally nailed the Canadian thing (très impressionnant), but my name is Andy, not Rembrandt.
Virtue signaling to whom, and for what reason?
I genuinely don't understand, and am trying to understand, American-style bigotry.
You know, it’s funny if anybody should’ve been approved for a mortgage, it should’ve been this guy. He had all those ducks in the row with the income to prove it the down payment to prove it. Not to mention he’s a CEO of a company I don’t get it.
He had too much debt for NFCU everyone is acting like its a mystery.
They listed the reason why he found another lender and that was ok with his debt thats ok.
He was a CEO of a company not anymore you can miss it pretty easily.
@@serenitynow7854 not even his debt. He’s self employed. Probably writes off everything and claims not as much income as he stated to get pre approved. Every self employed borrower does it. “ oh I make 500k a year” but on paper you make 100k because you avoid taxes by writing everything off lol
@@serenitynow7854 What you're missing, pretty easily, is that ANOTHER lender approved this applicant almost immediately. Why? Is the "approval algorithm" that different between the top mortgage lenders? It shouldn't be, if the prevailing criteria is having the borrower pay back the loan, on time. CNN's analysis stated that Black applicants to Navy Federal were more than twice as likely to be denied as White applicants even when MORE than a dozen different variables - including income, debt-to-income ratio, property value, downpayment percentage, and neighborhood characteristics - were the same. Yep...you can miss it pretty easily...
@@kenc2257 yet they didn't include credit score... Kinda the most important part of a mortgage application. It could be a number of things algorithm maybe it's the military the other top 50 lenders are banks so don't have to help a specific group of customers. Maybe the credit score criteria is very high so it creates that gap. I don't think it is an evil mustache twirler saying black application deny it. I do acknowledge there's a small chance it's racism. I don't understand how people can't see the wholes and are so arrogant they know for certain.
@@kenc2257 Yall ignore this guy. From his comments, he didn't watch the video or read the article.
I just wanna say that being a former mortgage processor and underwriter and originator that I would never suggest that anyone apply for a mortgage on a home using a bank and using a conventional loan, you should always try to do an FHA loan. It is easier and less of a down payment if any and veterans or people from the military should always try to use their VA benefits, your more likely regardless of your color to get approved your DD 214 is a great way to start. It is part of that and then after that if need to and you want to release your VA Cert. refinance your home to release the benefits. what is that thing called? A lot of red lining happens undercover but if you never question it and you go by what that Underwriter claims the reason is and you don’t challenge appeal or report what you view as racial discriminatory act then that make it harder for the next generation or the person behind you. good luck to those who are trying to get a home, in this high interest rate. Please remember do not go to a bank go to a mortgage company it must say mortgage company not bank.
Thank goodness we have companies like NACA, who help close the racial disparity gap in mortgage lending.
At the time in 2020 when I was purchasing my first home, I applied for a conventional loan for a $400k home in Decatur. I’ve been with the credit union since 2001 when I joined the Navy. At the time I was working my second year as an emergency physician with a credit score north of 750 and they declined me lol. I thought it was going to be a given. Had to get my loan from Ameris. I tired again to refinance said house during those exceedingly low rates and they pulled some BS at the tail end and I lost the rate. I’ve since mostly divested from them except for some instruments because of the credit history.
I went through the same thing, my wife and I each had 780 credit score, we had low dti, and more. We applied to Navy Federal and was denied... They explained they have another standard for scoring than other institutions and thats why there were differences. Well tell me how I was approved the very next month for a 800k home at 2.75%... our income was over 200k at the time, just wild....
I didnt understand how then and this might point to a reason why... Im happy with my current loan, still a customer of Navy because I still have my credit cards with them (8%, hard to beat) but still... This all just sucks.
The hill I've been dying on is that redlining has never gone away. Its been moved around and new terms have been created to give the appearance that banks are not discriminating against customers by race. The ladt time a bank was convicted of redlining and racial discrimination in lending was in 2002. It was BOA and the regulations were changed afterwards to ensure no bank gets convicted of it again. This is also why old latino, black and asian neighborhoods are being gentrified. The people that have always lived there cant get a loan to stay there but the other people can.
I had the same thing happen to me earlier this year with Navy Federal. I have banked with them for close to 15 years. They were willing to give me all kinds of credit facilities, with a credit score of over 720. But when it came to getting a mortgage, they said, NOPE.
Praise God for him speaking up!
This redlining has been a problem forever. This is by design. If people have a fair chance at building wealth, what kind of society will we have?
Some people would be frightened to see improved credit scores and wealth within communities that should be frequenting their check caching establishments.
DAMMIT NAVY FEDERAL!!! There has to be a class action lawsuit coming.
NAVY and Service Credit Union denied me before when I should have qualified.
Shame on these banks!
The bank asked to see my check stubs not once not twice but 3 times when I was buying my first house. My mother buys property for a living and she said thats un herd of. That they were probably trying to find a reason to deny me since my credit score and history was nearly perfect.
Same here!
Well I’m sure the Grand Wizard of Navy federal credit union had his reasons. 😆. As a consolation you get a crucifix night light for your yard 😧
Welp, looks like I want be doing business with Navy Federal! Thanks for this story.
When you get close to catching up, the finish line gets moved.
Exactly