I was about to pull my hair out looking for a fuse. Damn BMW makes it difficult. Not only replacing the module but now I have to get it coded. Although you did me a great service in finding the problem, I wish it could've been more light in removal and installation of the module. All I could really see is your hands wrestling with connections and hearing things snap together. Thank you for more of a headache. LOL
Hey bro, thanks for the video! I got a faulty KBM module. Got the NCS Inpa and WinkPF too along with the cable. New module just arrived from ebay. Gonna proceed on sunday. I will have to code the new module, if its not the same part number, is that an issue?Thanks in advance (E61 from 2006)
That’s top secret I can’t tell you that, I have special tools for checking that I had to buy when working at BMW that we ca. Plug in and check the module And no I changed pump anyway but it wasn’t broken but it was completely knackered when I tested it
Appreciate the video doc. My windshield washers weren’t working at all. Found your video here so I replaced the pump first and I ended up getting lucky with that. They’re fully working again for $15. Thanks also for the heads up on the spillage lol, I put a large bucket underneath for that.
What else is controlled by the module? I am going to need to replace mine but would like to get a heads up what else is controlled by this module? also what is the original part number for the module? I have to find/buy one. Any info will be greatly appreciated?
Hi Dean, love you videos! I have the windscreen Washer Pump leaking on my 2009 650i E63. Do you have a part number for the pump you replaced? Thanks in advance!
Sorry, Dean. I wanted to confirm what you did when you programmed the replacement KBM with WinKFP, you were simply connecting your laptop to the OBD2 port is that correct? D-CAN cable? Thanks again. A very informative video.
Hello Dean. I have a problem fuse ,relay, wiper motor test ok. Washer pump work and rain sensor light turn on but wiper don't work. Could be the module?
Love your videos brother. I ended up taking the pump out and bench testing it. Guess the motor was seized bc soon as it work on the bench test I popped it back in and it worked with the controls. Time for a new pump I guess. Thanks a lot brother.
My headlights washer pump works fine.. the windscreen washer pump works sometimes.. I'm guessing with my situation the pump maybe at fault? As it wouldn't work at all if it's the same fault you had?
Hey doc, would ISTA have shown any issues with that module before you decided to replace it?? I'm thinking about how I would have diagnosed this issue... Thanks! Hm, surprised to see the "oxidation" on the fuse panel metal housing. What would cause that, in your car? Water infiltration??
No mate the oxidation is normal on all E60s it’s a metal frame inside therefore just cold weather over the years causes that it’s perfectly normal and most cars when you remove the glovebox like that you will notice many many are like that Also no ista doesn’t show this as a fault i have special tools that I use to diagnose these modules which I plug up to the module and can run tests on each relay to make sure there powering there specific circuits it’s a harness we used to use in BMW which checks for the following: BATTERY DRAIN SHORT CIRCUIT BOARD FAILURE RELAY FAILURE voltage current coming in and out the modules And also used to make tests if needed back and fourth between the cars But that harness needs to be linked up to the official ISTA and it runs its tests You will notice in many many ista test plans they ask you to connect certain plugs up to the module this is called a test harness we have all BMW technicians will have this for module testing it makes doing these cars very very very easy indeed and cannot be beaten There not available for sale or made anywhere most of us buy this when we are there and keep them as it’s bought out of our own trade account like all our tools But it beats everything and anything and BMW from a hard car becomes very easy to diagnose in minutes We have about 50 plugs on the harness one goes to a port on the computer we plug in and another straight to the module we are testing or whatever ista asks us to probe it will then conduct it’s own tests based on the harness and fault finds for you it’s puts all the modules used for fault finding in circuit and on a open test and runs them like it would on the car to find the fault My harness is used on ALL BMW E90 E91 E92 E87 E82 E88 E60 E61 E63 E65 any of them I try to not use it so much on here as I don’t want people trying to make one or clone one so I don’t delve in with it but it’s what I usually send Nathan when he needs to use it BUT I don’t let him use it for video purposes as He’s not allowed But I have used it to just diagnose another module failure on the car which I need replacing which is coming on another video
Dean, Have you tried to repair that KDM in the E60 or what my experience reminds me of a similiar issue with my adaptive headlights, if or when water shorts out the HV ballast module under the lamp assy via the seal failing, the vehicle Module that drives that ballast has 50 key cycles of a shorted circuit then it quits trying to turn this ballast on anymore. I followed a BMW tech in the UK and tried to copy each step of going thru the SW to reset the modules counter back to 0, It is very difficult to grasp at first but after trying it a lot of times I was able to reset the counter in the module, My hardest hurdle was trying to follow my SW that was in German. My guess is this module you have and I as well have same neither washer pumps are working and My son was using the car for a year and ran the bottle dry and I'm sure he tried constantly to get the spray to work. I may have to find a used KDM as well on EBAY now. I'm too rusty on the SW side to try and see if there is a reset for this counter if it even has one. Thanks for the great video's we all learn a lot from them.
Hello🙂BMW E60,525D problem: The windshield washer works only a few times after I turn on the ignition or start the engine, then the pump stops when I actuate the lever but the wipers work. I turn it off again, turn on the ignition, it works again for 5-6 or perfectly, then the washing doesn't work anymore, the pump can't be heard either.
I have a question. On my E60 The windshield washer does not spray water on the windshield when its a dry day, however if the windshield is wet or if there are light showers the washer will spray water on the windshield. Is that normal as it is very annoying if i need to clear the windshield otherwise.
Hi, i have a similar problem on my x3 F25 2014 , front washer pump doesn't work , i already replaced the front an rear pump , checked the line , i have this error on ISTA : 802099 Windscreen washer pump , front : open circuit or short circuit to positive , since i manipuled the pumps , i have know the warning washer fluid but the tank is full, i cleaned the tank and changed the sensor but the problem is always here
My BMW 5 2007 E60 shows ( fuel reserve) at the screen and the engine does not run.. What should I check And please note that I already check that the fuel pump are running and the fuel return from the return tube apov the engine neer the air inlet
Question I have 2 pumps the grey and black one but no headlight washers? Got an e61 2009, is the part just in their in case I had the washer jets fitted?
Hey bro I got big questions plz help me out I change the valve cover on my e60 550i and my car sound like I have a leake and little slow acceleration got code VVL can u help me out plz ☹ the car was working fine when I change gasket
I've heard some shite in my time but blaming MOT testers for burning the crap quality under designed KBM pump drive circuit/relay out has to be right up there with the best. Just swap the relay, 10 minute solder job even without the right gear. Not really having a dig but just admit it's a poor quality design and not fit for purpose. It is undoubtedly designed to fail, same as the Renault miniature relays in their UPC modules.
my friend dont compare Renault to BMW. BMW is very very advanced compared to that French crap and it is the MOT testers problems they burn the circuits not the first time I have seen this believe me I do this day in day out
@@BMWDoctor So do I. All I'm saying is that relay should not burn out the way it consistently does. Exactly the same way the French junk does. Both are not fit for purpose and are both designed and built to fail.
BMWS are NOT designed to fail at all. I have a E60 now on 170k with the same modules that works perfectly and needed NOTHING and no new modules this is all due to neglect and many many many owners owning this car needing many things replaced I have had to replace many other modules on this car, which as well you will see is another problem people are banging there heads against a brick wall. because NONE OF THESE keyboard warriors and forum members know crap about crap and definitely not these cars the first thing they tell everyone is its a FUSE and I HATE THAT fuses do not pop constantly or frequently and when they pop it means there is a problem further down to be making that happen. this is why I run a channel and most of them watch and learn and and hopefully stop making people tear apart there car when they know nothing about anything
@@BMWDoctor Totally agree. Your cars like mine will tend to fail less than most because we do preventative maintenance. All these remote functions are fused but they use a common fuse that powers a number of relays etc. in the module. But, these modules are weak. With regard to the KBM the pumps start seizing drawing more current and because of the high shared fuse value and the under-rated internal relay they inevitably burn out. BMW like all manufacturers design these modules to fail so they can royally ream punters who blindly go to the dealer. Most modules do repair and don't need swapping. I've been repairing them for 40 years and I've seen the "progress" all manufacturers have made. Half of it totally stupid. Maybe not half but you get what I mean. Anyway, keep up the good work.
Im one of the admins on BMW F10/F11 Sweden and you’re spot on when you mention the lack of knowledge from all of the “know it all” guys🤦🏻♂️😂 Btw, can’t you just replace the relay?🤔 thinking if someone can get this far they must be able to solder on a new relay on a pcb🤷♂️😂 or is the module gumed up?
No mate the relays ain’t worth fixing as o will show on another video they ain’t replaceable on the board and when you can buy the module for £10 it doesn’t really make sense mate And yes mate that’s correct so you know how much this problem is asked everywhere on forums and they al end up in a brick wall because the little forum guys don’t know there arse from there elbow and don’t know crap about these cars and how they work This is why so many are still running around with this problem failing MOT as this is a MUST in the U.K. for MOT or it will be a straight failure Yet they act like they know everything when they actually know f**k all as there all wankers to be honest none have my skills or are on par with me I will be opening my own forum soon and hope to end the little keyboard warrior that run around sharing RUclips videos after they make people rip there whole car apart looking for issues First thing everyone says is CHECK THE FUSE as if there is a f****king fuse on a E60 for washer pump this isn’t 1990 this is a new era car I dread to think how any of them would diagnose a f series if they can’t even work out how advanced bmw is they don’t use fuses for hardly anything critical on a car anymore
BMW Doctor aah nope not worth it then😬 it just hit me cause so many people just swap things out without checking the real problem first and some times it’s as easy as a blown diod or bad soldering connection 🤷♂️😊 Ooh I’m 100% backing you up on that statement 😊 the forums and groups are full of them and a lot of arguments flying around with no reason 🥴 we have zero bullshit policy on the Swedish Facebook group. Thx for you’re videos, to bad you dident make them 5 years ago when I started learning some of this stuff and managed to brick my F11 in the middle of the night😂😂🤦🏻♂️ I did have a copy so I managed to get the car running but I had to Skype with chawn and let him fix my car over teamviewer 😂😂 It’s just a car I always says but that night I shit my pants and thought my wife would bury my as in the garden the next day😂
my friend do not worry watch the next video I put out my friend this is another common common problem where on the forums nobody knows crap trust me its another module fault and yet all these people tell you the fuse and I'm going to explain in the next video what happens and how its all controlled these kind of videos is what makes forum members look a idiot and should be removed from there immediately none of them know anything about anything where I'm very professional in what I do and know what I'm doing with these cars. I know how every line communicates and what communicates to what on this car so these cars are like a baby for me
Why would I when it took me 10 mins to rectify it. It looks longer then it actually is, but without recording Becsuse I know what I’m doing it would of taken 5 mins.
I was about to pull my hair out looking for a fuse. Damn BMW makes it difficult. Not only replacing the module but now I have to get it coded. Although you did me a great service in finding the problem, I wish it could've been more light in removal and installation of the module. All I could really see is your hands wrestling with connections and hearing things snap together. Thank you for more of a headache. LOL
Thanks for video Dean another great upload did make me laugh when you said "that's all you got to do" if only.
it is all you got to do
Hey bro, thanks for the video! I got a faulty KBM module. Got the NCS Inpa and WinkPF too along with the cable. New module just arrived from ebay. Gonna proceed on sunday. I will have to code the new module, if its not the same part number, is that an issue?Thanks in advance (E61 from 2006)
Interesting video again.
Doesn't the kbm throw a code if its broken, so that you didn't have to change the pump? Or were both broken?
That’s top secret I can’t tell you that, I have special tools for checking that I had to buy when working at BMW that we ca. Plug in and check the module
And no I changed pump anyway but it wasn’t broken but it was completely knackered when I tested it
Appreciate the video doc. My windshield washers weren’t working at all. Found your video here so I replaced the pump first and I ended up getting lucky with that. They’re fully working again for $15. Thanks also for the heads up on the spillage lol, I put a large bucket underneath for that.
What else is controlled by the module? I am going to need to replace mine but would like to get a heads up what else is controlled by this module? also what is the original part number for the module? I have to find/buy one. Any info will be greatly appreciated?
Hi Dean, love you videos! I have the windscreen Washer Pump leaking on my 2009 650i E63. Do you have a part number for the pump you replaced? Thanks in advance!
Sorry, Dean. I wanted to confirm what you did when you programmed the replacement KBM with WinKFP, you were simply connecting your laptop to the OBD2 port is that correct? D-CAN cable? Thanks again. A very informative video.
Did you ever get an answer to this? I need to swap my KBM and just need to the copy and write steps a little clearer
Hello Dean. I have a problem fuse ,relay, wiper motor test ok. Washer pump work and rain sensor light turn on but wiper don't work. Could be the module?
Love your videos brother. I ended up taking the pump out and bench testing it. Guess the motor was seized bc soon as it work on the bench test I popped it back in and it worked with the controls. Time for a new pump I guess. Thanks a lot brother.
Fair play to you - watched some of your vids and thought "chancer" but actually you know your onions. Good work.
My headlights washer pump works fine.. the windscreen washer pump works sometimes.. I'm guessing with my situation the pump maybe at fault? As it wouldn't work at all if it's the same fault you had?
Helo, you rezolved the problem? I have the same situation
Hey doc, would ISTA have shown any issues with that module before you decided to replace it??
I'm thinking about how I would have diagnosed this issue...
Thanks!
Hm, surprised to see the "oxidation" on the fuse panel metal housing. What would cause that, in your car? Water infiltration??
No mate the oxidation is normal on all E60s it’s a metal frame inside therefore just cold weather over the years causes that it’s perfectly normal and most cars when you remove the glovebox like that you will notice many many are like that
Also no ista doesn’t show this as a fault i have special tools that I use to diagnose these modules which I plug up to the module and can run tests on each relay to make sure there powering there specific circuits it’s a harness we used to use in BMW which checks for the following:
BATTERY DRAIN
SHORT CIRCUIT
BOARD FAILURE
RELAY FAILURE
voltage current coming in and out the modules
And also used to make tests if needed back and fourth between the cars
But that harness needs to be linked up to the official ISTA and it runs its tests
You will notice in many many ista test plans they ask you to connect certain plugs up to the module this is called a test harness we have all BMW technicians will have this for module testing it makes doing these cars very very very easy indeed and cannot be beaten
There not available for sale or made anywhere most of us buy this when we are there and keep them as it’s bought out of our own trade account like all our tools
But it beats everything and anything and BMW from a hard car becomes very easy to diagnose in minutes
We have about 50 plugs on the harness one goes to a port on the computer we plug in and another straight to the module we are testing or whatever ista asks us to probe it will then conduct it’s own tests based on the harness and fault finds for you it’s puts all the modules used for fault finding in circuit and on a open test and runs them like it would on the car to find the fault
My harness is used on ALL BMW E90 E91 E92 E87 E82 E88 E60 E61 E63 E65 any of them I try to not use it so much on here as I don’t want people trying to make one or clone one so I don’t delve in with it but it’s what I usually send Nathan when he needs to use it BUT I don’t let him use it for video purposes as He’s not allowed
But I have used it to just diagnose another module failure on the car which I need replacing which is coming on another video
Thanks for the info, Dr Dean!
Hey Dean. A few weeeks back i got the XHP in my gearbox. Eversince my washer havent worked, do you bellive that my KBM is done?
Hi,
If the part numbers of the new and old KBM are the same, does it still need coding?
I need this info
Dean, Have you tried to repair that KDM in the E60 or what my experience reminds me of a similiar issue with my adaptive headlights, if or when water shorts out the HV ballast module under the lamp assy via the seal failing, the vehicle Module that drives that ballast has 50 key cycles of a shorted circuit then it quits trying to turn this ballast on anymore. I followed a BMW tech in the UK and tried to copy each step of going thru the SW to reset the modules counter back to 0, It is very difficult to grasp at first but after trying it a lot of times I was able to reset the counter in the module, My hardest hurdle was trying to follow my SW that was in German. My guess is this module you have and I as well have same neither washer pumps are working and My son was using the car for a year and ran the bottle dry and I'm sure he tried constantly to get the spray to work. I may have to find a used KDM as well on EBAY now. I'm too rusty on the SW side to try and see if there is a reset for this counter if it even has one. Thanks for the great video's we all learn a lot from them.
But if you changing blocks with same letter at the end of part nr so you don't need to recode it, isn't it?!
Awesome, Dean!
BTW, I really like the rims on your car 👌
Thanks MARIO
They are 359 ;) i have these on my e63
Hello🙂BMW E60,525D problem: The windshield washer works only a few times after I turn on the ignition or start the engine, then the pump stops when I actuate the lever but the wipers work. I turn it off again, turn on the ignition, it works again for 5-6 or perfectly, then the washing doesn't work anymore, the pump can't be heard either.
For the e61 with rear wash wipe is there another washer pump for that? My rear and headlights work but my windscreen doesn't
Dr. Dean, I know you’re doing well. I need to replace my 530i Heat Unit. I need help.
I have this issue in my e60, I always assumed it was a bad pump. Maybe not now.
Hey is it the same in the e70 X5 ??
Thanks, lifesaver Dean! I’m thinking about selling my E60 because F10 >>>E60…
Hello doc my 3series e90 washer jets don't work but I can hear the pump working I've blown down the tube still nothing any ideas mate
I have a question. On my E60 The windshield washer does not spray water on the windshield when its a dry day, however if the windshield is wet or if there are light showers the washer will spray water on the windshield. Is that normal as it is very annoying if i need to clear the windshield otherwise.
Hi Dean, all works until the point where i try and click done to programme the module, then I get an error 106. Any thoughts?
Hi, i have a similar problem on my x3 F25 2014 , front washer pump doesn't work , i already replaced the front an rear pump , checked the line , i have this error on ISTA : 802099 Windscreen washer pump , front : open circuit or short circuit to positive , since i manipuled the pumps , i have know the warning washer fluid but the tank is full, i cleaned the tank and changed the sensor but the problem is always here
Would it be possible to take apart the kpm and replace the relay?
RELAYS are NOT replaceable on the modules but the modules are very very cheap £10 on eBay I have loads of them
My BMW 5 2007 E60 shows ( fuel reserve) at the screen and the engine does not run.. What should I check
And please note that I already check that the fuel pump are running and the fuel return from the return tube apov the engine neer the air inlet
Question I have 2 pumps the grey and black one but no headlight washers? Got an e61 2009, is the part just in their in case I had the washer jets fitted?
@@darrenstones6639 did you get it sorted? Having the same problem and pump replacement didnt help
thank you Dr. ! Great guide 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Thank you Dean
Very welcome
KBM & KGM module is it the same?
I freakin love this channel. My pump works but it leaks. I always have a puddle under the car.
Is it leaking from pump? If so check strainers
Hey bro I got big questions plz help me out I change the valve cover on my e60 550i and my car sound like I have a leake and little slow acceleration got code VVL can u help me out plz ☹ the car was working fine when I change gasket
I assume it's the same for the e92?
no its not you don't have KBM you have JBBE
I cannot program the module using WINKFP. After clicking "Program", error 201 appears, indicating the wrong ECU module number. What am I doing wrong?
Do we get error on ista for this one?
is there a written step by step guide anywhere to make your video easier to follow please, mainly the parts using the laptop?
Hello, if i replace a kbm module and didnt do coding, what can happen?
Bom video.👍
Damn impressive Dean! You are The BMW Doctor, my friend!
I've heard some shite in my time but blaming MOT testers for burning the crap quality under designed KBM pump drive circuit/relay out has to be right up there with the best. Just swap the relay, 10 minute solder job even without the right gear. Not really having a dig but just admit it's a poor quality design and not fit for purpose. It is undoubtedly designed to fail, same as the Renault miniature relays in their UPC modules.
my friend dont compare Renault to BMW. BMW is very very advanced compared to that French crap and it is the MOT testers problems they burn the circuits not the first time I have seen this believe me I do this day in day out
@@BMWDoctor So do I. All I'm saying is that relay should not burn out the way it consistently does. Exactly the same way the French junk does. Both are not fit for purpose and are both designed and built to fail.
BMWS are NOT designed to fail at all. I have a E60 now on 170k with the same modules that works perfectly and needed NOTHING and no new modules this is all due to neglect and many many many owners owning this car needing many things replaced I have had to replace many other modules on this car, which as well you will see is another problem people are banging there heads against a brick wall.
because NONE OF THESE keyboard warriors and forum members know crap about crap and definitely not these cars the first thing they tell everyone is its a FUSE and I HATE THAT fuses do not pop constantly or frequently and when they pop it means there is a problem further down to be making that happen.
this is why I run a channel and most of them watch and learn and and hopefully stop making people tear apart there car when they know nothing about anything
@@BMWDoctor Totally agree. Your cars like mine will tend to fail less than most because we do preventative maintenance. All these remote functions are fused but they use a common fuse that powers a number of relays etc. in the module. But, these modules are weak. With regard to the KBM the pumps start seizing drawing more current and because of the high shared fuse value and the under-rated internal relay they inevitably burn out. BMW like all manufacturers design these modules to fail so they can royally ream punters who blindly go to the dealer. Most modules do repair and don't need swapping. I've been repairing them for 40 years and I've seen the "progress" all manufacturers have made. Half of it totally stupid. Maybe not half but you get what I mean. Anyway, keep up the good work.
I have a problem fuse please help me
Im one of the admins on BMW F10/F11 Sweden and you’re spot on when you mention the lack of knowledge from all of the “know it all” guys🤦🏻♂️😂
Btw, can’t you just replace the relay?🤔 thinking if someone can get this far they must be able to solder on a new relay on a pcb🤷♂️😂 or is the module gumed up?
No mate the relays ain’t worth fixing as o will show on another video they ain’t replaceable on the board and when you can buy the module for £10 it doesn’t really make sense mate
And yes mate that’s correct so you know how much this problem is asked everywhere on forums and they al end up in a brick wall because the little forum guys don’t know there arse from there elbow and don’t know crap about these cars and how they work
This is why so many are still running around with this problem failing MOT as this is a MUST in the U.K. for MOT or it will be a straight failure
Yet they act like they know everything when they actually know f**k all as there all wankers to be honest none have my skills or are on par with me I will be opening my own forum soon and hope to end the little keyboard warrior that run around sharing RUclips videos after they make people rip there whole car apart looking for issues
First thing everyone says is CHECK THE FUSE as if there is a f****king fuse on a E60 for washer pump this isn’t 1990 this is a new era car I dread to think how any of them would diagnose a f series if they can’t even work out how advanced bmw is they don’t use fuses for hardly anything critical on a car anymore
BMW Doctor aah nope not worth it then😬 it just hit me cause so many people just swap things out without checking the real problem first and some times it’s as easy as a blown diod or bad soldering connection 🤷♂️😊
Ooh I’m 100% backing you up on that statement 😊 the forums and groups are full of them and a lot of arguments flying around with no reason 🥴 we have zero bullshit policy on the Swedish Facebook group.
Thx for you’re videos, to bad you dident make them 5 years ago when I started learning some of this stuff and managed to brick my F11 in the middle of the night😂😂🤦🏻♂️ I did have a copy so I managed to get the car running but I had to Skype with chawn and let him fix my car over teamviewer 😂😂
It’s just a car I always says but that night I shit my pants and thought my wife would bury my as in the garden the next day😂
my friend do not worry watch the next video I put out my friend this is another common common problem where on the forums nobody knows crap trust me its another module fault and yet all these people tell you the fuse and I'm going to explain in the next video what happens and how its all controlled these kind of videos is what makes forum members look a idiot and should be removed from there immediately none of them know anything about anything where I'm very professional in what I do and know what I'm doing with these cars.
I know how every line communicates and what communicates to what on this car so these cars are like a baby for me
@@BMWDoctor Damn........Totally blown away.
In other words…… I’m screwed.
Bro my winkf not showing ecu
The amount of work to fix this is ridiculous dude. Leave it to bmw 🙄
Why would I when it took me 10 mins to rectify it. It looks longer then it actually is, but without recording Becsuse I know what I’m doing it would of taken 5 mins.
@@BMWDoctor oh nice. Just diagnosed my pump being bad. Hopefully the relay is good in mine
@@BMWDoctor any ideea if the kbm on car is basis and the replacement part doesn't have basis is it ok ? Or they have to be same
Cheers
I can find my part number in winkf. My new kbm modul is 9168833. Why ?