Caitlin Clark's rookie triple-double, Angel Reese's double-double record, who's ROTY? | UNDISPUTED
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- Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese are making their cases for Rookie of the Year. Clark posted the WNBA's first-ever rookie triple-double, while Reese broke Candace Parker's record for consecutive games with a double-double (Reese has 13 in a row). Skip Bayless, Rachel Nichols and Keyshawn Johnson debate who should be Rookie of the Year as the WNBA approaches All-Star weekend and the halfway point.
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Caitlin Clark's rookie triple-double, Angel Reese's double-double record, who's ROTY? | UNDISPUTED
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I would've drafted Caitlin Clark over Bronny James.
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Haters undisputed 😂 fy im going to cc for roty not even close points assist triple double angel reese is like dennis rodman and they have the same nose 😂😂😂😂😂 cc roty oviusly you cc haters!
Her 60 assists were the most by a player in women's tournament history. Clark won all major national player of the year awards: AP Player of the Year, the Honda Sports Award, the John R. Wooden Award, Naismith College Player of the Year, USBWA National Player of the Year and the Wade Trophy.
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Honors include NCAA Tournament Most Outstandings Player (2023), unanimous First Team All-American (2023), AP and USBWA All-American (2023), AP Third Team All-American (2022), First Team All-SEC (2023), First Team All-Big Ten (2022), Big Ten Conference All-Freshman Team (2021), among others.
Angel Reese - USA Basketball
3 of 12 from the 3, Horrible
32 in the league from the 3 👎
Keep Dreaming son…….
Her 60 assists were the most by a player in women's tournament history. Clark won all major national player of the year awards: AP Player of the Year, the Honda Sports Award, the John R. Wooden Award, Naismith College Player of the Year, USBWA National Player of the Year and the Wade Trophy.
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Honors include NCAA Tournament Most Outstandings Player (2023), unanimous First Team All-American (2023), AP and USBWA All-American (2023), AP Third Team All-American (2022), First Team All-SEC (2023), First Team All-Big Ten (2022), Big Ten Conference All-Freshman Team (2021), among others.
Angel Reese - USA Basketball
Apparently a triple double is such an easy thing, yet somehow no rookie in 26 years has ever gotten one…until now.
It's kind of sad the hate CC is getting simply because she's a basketball phenom and just happens to be a white girl.
@@skcchiefs8928😂
The same as 14 double doubles 🤷🏽♀️; both have never been done.
@@skcchiefs8928There have been PLENTY of white girls that we love that are better players than CC. I like CC, but lets not think its because she is white. They just didnt have NIL and social media when they played in college, but they def have the championships and stats to show for it.
She got LUCKY.
1000 rookies since wnba began has never had a triple double ever
That’s the craziest stat! How has no other #1 pick or any rookie not had a triple double!
Same number and non has done what Angel is doing.
Yeah how many of them rookies had 2 all star bail her out in Boston n Mitchell 😂😂😂
7-17 3-13 from 3 in her triple double game 😅😅😅
@@ericjohnson1503Mitchell isn't good for winning basketball. Can't be an ISO only player and help your team.
Over 9👀 rookies later. I see why ESPN and skip dem failing
Caitlin Clark as of July 8 leads the entire league in accounting for the most made baskets, whether by scoring or by assists. There is your WNBA Rookie of the Year.
And turnovers....
@@nikkinites3176and every other stat, Reese is a joke.
And angel reese leads the league in rebounding her own misses lol
You're right she's leads the wnba in accounting also 😂😢😅
@@nikkinites3176they always forget that!!! 🤔🤔
Yeah.. CC got off to a fast start... a LEGENDARY fast start.... (Everyone seems to leave this out.. ) CC is the fastest WNBA player to record 300 career points, 100 rebounds and 100 assists by doing so in her 19th game. (!!!) To me it is just frosting on the cake that she is also the first rookie out of 960 to have a triple double (!!) WOW.. ROTY hands down...
She has more turnovers than anyone in the league , she doesn’t deserve it
most the turns over she gets r her teammates not catching her paases
@@MitchellFamily-x3t agreed... Now CC has the most points rebounds and assists of any rookie in HISTORY... and there are still 18 games to go....!!!! ROTY is no longer a conversation.. CC wins... now we are talking about MVP
Triple-doubles are not easy. Only 31 women have ever achieved that in 27 years of the WNBA
How many have had 13 consecutive double doubles
@@samcalven12 you must take out the times when nobody blocks her out, when nobody is guarding her, and when her teammates and other teams just let her have the ball, her numbers would drop and half her doubles doubles would be wiped out. If you all want to talk about CC’s turnovers, low shooting percentage from 3 point land as opposed to under the basket. Only fair if you want to talk apples to apples comparison of records and stats. Two points you can never argue (unless you live on Reese’s fantasyland) the fans that CC brought (and it isn’t because of AR) and the game planning of opposing teams against CC. That’s all you need to know to see why CC is the clear winner above Reese in any true reality.
@MikeC-hk5ec, It's even MORE impressive to "Triple Double" playing the First Place WNBA New York Liberty. The Liberty don't want to be embarrassed with a ROOKIE scoring a "Triple Double" on them!!!! Revenge on the veterans is a dish best served cold! LOL
@@MikeC-hk5ec all I read was talk down on angel and blame CC Teammates.
Only one has had a triple double.
That woman sick they said angel reese😂😂
She don’t like it they kicked her out of espn and lost to a black woman now she don’t want to give angel her props she is better overall that catlin sorry
@@kelvinmhlanga768at what exactly? Rebounding?
@kelvinmhlanga768 how is shooting 39% from fg as big better then what catlin doing . Angel is straight trash her double double are off her own misses
@@jacobluna1731 atleast she doesn’t need 17shots to score 3 of them do the maths and yes she can rebound that’s her strength she is doing what she is good at and catlin she is good player and I think she will improve I like her but atm I don’t think she has the it factor she has the hype that’s it
@@kelvinmhlanga768 No, there's a legitimate reason Clark was drafted first and Reese wasn't even second. Magic Johnson is considered the greatest point guard ever because he makes the team around him so much better. Caitlin has a similar type of gravity to her game. The whole team is looking make the extra pass now, so she's changed team culture for the better.
If 13 consecutive double double is so easy ,hasn’t more players rookie or vet done it.
Yes, the record is not 27 yrs old like Clarks triple double.
Do you watch the sky games ,
@@samcalven12 💍😢
@@samcalven12 yes but nobody guards Reese from the parking lot like all the teams guard CC🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@santiagosanchez602Nobody guards Reese past 6 ft out
Why did the guy seem to insinuate that it's easy for Caitlin Clark to get a triple double because she took 17 shots a game...? How many shots she took has 0 bearing on how many rebounds or assists she got. Maybe they need to bring up how Caitlin Clark leads the league in points scored or assisted on their team...the entire league.
Skip also mentions 3 point shooting % without even talking about Angel Reese's inability to hit a layup. Truth is, there is no player guarded the same way Caitlin Clark is guarded right now. Never seen a rookie get face guarded from 94 ft up the court...ever. They're not comparable.
I've never seen a rookie settle for 30+ foot shots with 20 seconds on the shot clock before.
Its called a full court press. If you’ve never played, just say that. But someone that can shoot from deep has to be gaurded further out. Thats just smart basketball. They aren’t playing her any different. Angel is the one fighting two or 3 players per possession. She isn’t standing down there wide open like caitlin is when she shoots all those 3s and barely makes them.
@@derrion9041 I know what a full court press is and it's rare for a team to guard a single player with a full court press on almost every possession let alone a rookie. They are absolutely playing her differently and if you can't see that then I don't know what to tell you.
You are obviously Team CC. CCs extremely high turnover numbers greatly diminish all her stats. Those TO numbers are mind-boggling; even as a rookie. Turnovers=Poor decisions & carelessness with the basketball. No way to get around it. She'll have quite a bit of off-season time to get much better at her game. I expect CC to have a break-out season next year.
@@TLane-fd5ee I would say it's not all on her. If you see the passes and decisions she tries to make..they're often the right ones but theres little she can do if KM can't catch a pass or if Wheeler fumbles on the break. The team is still getting used to CC.
On top of that, how many rookies are getting doubled from 35ft from the basket? Not even Sabrina Ionescu is getting that kind of coverage so TOs are expected right now. Yeah they're high but I expect they will course correct as CC gets more comfortable and her teammates get used to the types of pass she throws.
Nobody brought up that Caitlin has more blocks than Angel as a guard. Can you imagine Curry having more blocks than Giannis😂
More blocks and a lot more steals
And wayyyy more turnovers than everyone in the league. Lmao yall delusional. How tf she got 43 more turnovers than the next person. Lmao yall don’t watch the games and it shows
@@joketsu100Yea Clark has 30 (1.4) and Angel has 29 (1.5) mind you Clark has played 2 more games than Angel.
Yet Clark is ranked 70 among all WNBA guards in Defensive rating.....
There are 80 guards in the WNBA.
I can block you 8 times in a game..... but if you still score 30 with a percentage over 50%, I did NOT have a good defensive game.
@CrownMeAsHIM not sure where you're looking but last time I checked the totals cc had 20 blocks to reeses 6. Cc has 57 steals to reeses 27. What the heck are you talking about?
Caitlin is averaging 17, 7 & 6. There are only 2 rookies who have ever done better than that in the history of *the NBA* (not WNBA). Oscar and Magic.
Look at the turnovers that’s historically bad!
What???
@@deandreray3500So is Reese FG% for a big .
she's the only player avg 15 5 5, that's impressive
I think she would be the first wnba player ever with those numbers too
Not just rookies
"She shot the ball 17 times how much more do you want her to shoot😂😂😂"
Gotta give it to Clark .. Reese is getting her doubles doubles but teams actually set up diff defenses to just to guard Clark .. Clark is definitely the front runner
I can tell when people didn't watch the games just the Highlights
Man in my country only a few games are televised or streamed so the highlights are all I get to see most of the time. Hopefully that'll change.
Skip has aged about a hundred years since Shannon left.
He looks E-ACTLY the same 😐
Skip is 72 for a Caucasian he looks good for his age I know ppl who look just like him and their like 50
Your kind usually does 😆
@@Owensmith-ss3yl 😂😂😂
@@Owensmith-ss3yl if ignorance was a person👆
CC also has so many turnovers due to her being covered by 2-3 defenders please put that on Reese and let’s see
Thank you! I don’t understand how people don’t acknowledge this fact!
This isn’t even a debate,
triple-double > double-double. Just give Clark the award already.
Steph curry wasn’t rookie of the year so idk why she brought curry up
@@weinaracewarandslaverystar3408 Cause they were talking about ts % my guy I can tell you don't pay attention 😭💯
Yh bcos they were saying how Clarke is a turnover machine then Rachael compared how steff used to also turn the ball over a lot as a rookie
Yep she just talking
@@markgraves2192but the whole conversation is about ROTY and her specialty which is shooting 3s is terrible.. while Angel’s specialty is getting boards and she’s leading the entire WNBA.. bringing up steph curry and he wasn’t the ROTY just proves their point
@@Qkazami must assume you Linda blind, cause she in top of most of the stats in, assist, rebounds and points. Also top 20 in most defensive stats.
All I know is the Olympic committee made the worst business decision ever by not putting both Clark and Reese on the team.
PSA, for the people that say Caitlin Clark and Ange have to earn their spot remember Rebecca Lobo made it in 1996, Candace Parker made it in 2008, and Breanna Stewart made it in 2016 all as rookies.
Right 👍🏿
Brain dead move and then the people making excuses like you need all 12 spots to win gold, let's see this 12 player rotation coach "Idiot"
They have to earn their stripes.
Yep both should be going not just CC…
Have them both on team destroying other competition be Amazing to see
Caitlin Clark as a rookie is asked to do way more for her team. She handles the ball way more than Angel Reece hence the turnovers. And sets her teammates up for high percentage shots. Her teammates are starting to catch her passes. Then the rebounds. She does everything. These guys are only talking about the three point shots. Caitlin Clark made me watch women’s basketball. I watched my first women’s basketball game because of Caitlin Clark.
It's true, NOBODY would know who Angel Reese is without Caitlin Clark. Clark is unquestionably the best player in the WNBA and virtually nobody cares about o'l right-hand-layup Reese.
Somebody tell Rachel that only 3 players from last year's sky roster are on the team. They essentially have a brand new team and a brand new coach.
actually its 2 with Williams out for the season
So they improved all but two positions and are not any better.
Reese has no skill. Let her go out and handle the ball and see how she looks lol. She’ll look like a clown 🤡 lol😂
@@nikmo7360 you base that upon what?
They pretend they have been following the wnba but they're just like the most of us. We only really started paying attention since Caitlyn Clark came along. Maybe you or others did but no one really cared about the wnbA
You’re forgetting the other records CC has broken or is leading in:
- Most combined points scored or assists with 713
- Fastest to 300 points, 100 Rebounds and 150 assists
- Most double-doubles with assists by a rookie
- First Rookie with a Triple Double
- Fastest player to reach 150 assists
And she’s not even done.
Place by Stats. CC beats AR by a wide margin in almost every stat. In the one category AR is #1, CC is only 19th. CC beats AR in blocks…blocks?!
AR gets more rebounds because of her own misses and CC gets TO’s because her teammates fumble the pass. If she was that horrible, she would’ve be the assist leader.
Points: CC 16th, AR 22nd
Assists: CC 1st, AR 54th
3 pointers: CC 6th, AR 92nd
Rebounds: AR 1st, CC 19th
Blocks: CC 16th, AR 42nd
Steals: AR 12th, CC 17th
Stats don’t lie.
Just like her meaningless college stats with no chip!
Stats LIE all day long just as people do.
You’re picking and choosing what to value more than the other. You said AR is 1st in rebounds but Caitlin is 19th, but don’t mention that Caitlin is 16 in ppg and Reese is 22. Also mention angel is averaging more steals and a better fg%. Angel Reese also wins in other metrics like per, win shares, net plus rating and etc. Angel has numbers in her advantage as well.
Those are not records, just fastest to whatever.
You can't argue with these M...ns with facts or numbers.
Reese only gets 1.8 assists per game, Clark gets 7.8 assists per, way more complete player Clark is.
Keyshawn and Skip should be embarrassed by this analysis.
Of course you don't like the facts 🤣
Men lie, women lie BUT NUMBERS DON'T 😂😂
@@OSIYO267and numbers say cc leads rookies in 4 of the 5 major stats angel literally only takes shots 4 feet from the basket and grabs her own misses a lot it’s not very impressive tbh cc also has led her team to a better situation than they previously were last year
Agree!! Definitely pulling the woke not racist card.
It shouldn't even be a discussion.
@@OSIYO267exactly why CC is ahead on the stats, top 5 in 4 different categories in the league, the other one is just rebounds.
I don't remember Ice Cube rapping about getting a double double.
Hahaha
🫡🤫🤷🤣😢😭😅😂
Messed around and got a triple double. Today was a good day ooowaa
42 more turnovers than any other in the league????
CC has to improve overall but for now it's definitely
ANGEL REESE 🏀
My thing is who ever got a triple double in street ball. 🤣🤦🏾♂️
A lot of Caitlin Clarks turnovers is her teammates missing her passes to be honest and a lot of Angel Reese's rebounds are from her missed layups.
First rookie in WNBA history to record 350 points 100 rebounds and a 100 assits….Not a full season, but a 1/2 season.. CC is the first rookie to have triple-double. Fastest WNBA player to record a 150 career assists since 1998. Currently leading the WNBA in points scored or assisted on with 713 points. Caitlin.Clark now stands alone as a rookie with the most point assisted double-doubles in WNBA history surpassing all time great basketball superstars Sue Bird.
Rachel was mad about them talking about Clark 3s😂😂
She did not lie Caitlin Clark fans cant give an excuse for that, but they will try to find one somehow someway and place the blame somewhere
@@hottrakz CC sees more blitzes and double team than any guard in the league. Watch the games.
@fivek_aday7064 that's not a excuse all the best players go threw that
@@fivek_aday7064 stop crying you only see that because you only watch in the end games you can't possibly say that and watch other games because you will see that most cards are picked up at least by half court. when will the excuses stop. Make an excuse for that 3 point percentage
@@benjaminbrown9459
No other player in the league gets pressed 94 ft for most of the game. Stop lying
I can't wait for the NFL to start.
Me too
Same lmao
For Keyshawn sake
Fr, I’m sick of watching missed layups and everyone getting “hyped” around it.
Why? To watch the Chiefs pounce?
400 double doubles a year, in the WNBA. 400 a year, in 28 years. In 28 years, there have been only 30 plus triple doubles EVER in the WNBA. One is definitely more rare than the other. Nobody watches games for rebounds, thats all im going to say.
Key, ..."she got the ball 17 times..." Everyone knows you wanted almost every pass to come your way, and you felt like you had the ability to take it to the house every time. 😂
Says Clark impacted winning more than anyone else but Reese top 16 in the league in Wins Shares which means she’s impacting winning better than anyone in this class
Reese Impacting winning better? the Fever have a better record than the Sky.
She said compared to lastyear
Facts 💯
And talking about surpassing the team’s record from last year….. The Sky only have 2 players from last season. And they aren’t doing much. AND they have a new coach, who is a first time head coach. Sky was predicted to be last place. But because of Angel’s fire, they are in playoff contention.
@@TurnFromWickednessplus minus is deceptive. The fever have had the toughest schedule in the league to this point. Let’s see how the plus minus looks in the second half when they have the easiest
Chicago Sky lost 60% of their scoring from last year to free agency, and they were preseason favorites to finish dead last. So to bring up last years record vs the Fevers last year record is disingenuous
I'm not for sure, if Indy makes playoffs for first time in 7 years, that's a huge jump isn't it? If those double doubles are so important to the team why aren't the Sky winning?
@@jacobwatson3781sky were projected to be 12th so idk what you’re talking about
@@jacobwatson3781the sky and fever are fighting for the same spot. So one isn’t winning more than the other. Plus, i think the sky have played less games than the fever so far.
@derrion9041 That's making my point. All those double doubles aren't equating to wins.
@@jacobwatson3781 neither is CC stats they just lost to the worst team in the league
There has been one triple-double in the WNBA in the last two years. In the very game that Angel broke this record, two other players had points-rebounds double-doubles, so how challenging is that task? Clark has six double-doubles of her own on the season, but nobody talks about it. Why? Because the standard for her is much higher.
As crazy as it is that CC got a triple double. It's just as crazy that no one else has been able to do it until now...
I've said before,, the ONLY reason they allow Keyshawn to talk ANYTHING outside of NFL topics is specifically to make SKIP seems more "Knowledgeable" by comparison.. 😒🤣🤣🤦🏿♂️
You are absolutely right. I've been wondering why Keyshawn was allowed to comment on basketball and now I know.
Following Keyshawn definitely makes anyone look smarter
Making Skip look knowledgeable? Quite an accomplishment.
you're forgetting Clark's ability to orchestrate the offence
1000 TURNOVERS
@tellmethetruth3393 First off it's offense she also has lots of turnovers but that's her teammate's fault right but when she gets asst. It's all Caitlin Christ huh
@@ImagineMike212 Its offence depending on which common wealth country. Still, Angel is doing better but Carmelo had a better rookie season than Lebron.
That's her job as a gaurd though. She's just doing what she's paid to do. That's like saying You're forgetting Angel Reese's ability to grab boards. 😂 That's her role on the team. She's just good at it.
Defense wins games. Remember that.
What a bunch of people pleasers, CC IS BY FAR THE ROTY, her game is way above Reese, no comparison
Are you kidding me? Caitlin‘s turnovers are from her teammates missing the passes, while Angel’s double doubles are from missing her own attempted shots and then rebounding them herself. Come on!
12 turnovers away from breaking a a wnba record with more than half a season left 🤦🏾♂️😂
Yo come on more than half those turnovers are not on her they are great passes the talent around her looks goofy
17-7-6. No rookie has ever averaged that. And none have gotten a triple double. She’s also been the most blitzed and when her teammates lose the ball they count it as her turnover
A quarterback's job is to make elite passes. Even if the pass is on the money, it's an "incomplete" if the receiver drops the ball. The key is that the receivers are getting better at catching.
@@benizio6802 you know we are talking about basketball right?
Ok let’s take away 1/3 half is reach she at 120+ let’s subtract 40 she still leads the wnba in turnovers
3:02 "She's only shooting 33% from 3" She never gets open 3-point shots, it's always shots damn near at the logo or step back contested 3s.
That's how it's been her whole career. Lol. Nothing different
That’s not even remotely true. Plus those are bad shots. It’s not like she’s making a great pct. She needs to use her teammates more to get open. She’s missed a lot of uncontested shots too.
Logo is still 3 points
That’s her taking them she doesn’t need to
So she takes bad shots is what you're saying
You are missing the assists which are points. She contributes more than Reese in the scoring part. Her rebounds, three points made.
If the triple double were so easy why has nobody in Indiana Fevers 24 years of exsistence ever done it? Has nobody ever shot the ball 17 times?
Because the team is god awful...?
She’s a PG who shoots 30 foot 3s turnovers over the ball
Nobody said triple double was easy. CC only did it 1 time so far.
12 consistent double doubles is difficult in the WNBA. We know this because it took one of the best women's basketball players ever to make the record in the first place. Reese took it from her while she is a ROOKIE and it's still active.
The other reason it's impressive because of the many different teams she has faced with different standards and abilities on defense and she was still able to be consistent despite the switch ups.
That's WAY harder than getting one triple double, especially because CC has the advantage of getting the ball first and commanding plays.
That's Indiana, but overall in the league period it has happened, lol!!! I bet she can't get triple-doubles 13 times or more back to back like Angel is getting double-doubles against VETS??
If 13 double doubles was so easy for a rookie in 24 years shouldn't there be more, this is one game we're talking about 13 in a row this is called consistency. 33% from the three isnt Caitlin Clark's claim to fame that logo three everybody wants to see the way it looks that thing doesn't have an effect on winning. You'll need to just accept it , it's not over yet though I don't see Angel Reese stopping no time soon. I would rather have 13 consecutive double doubles than one triple double any day, the team would also.
Skip is like, in the fourth quarter of games, I'm not saying she pulls back, but she starts playing point guard?!??😂😂
Skip has a odd view off basketball.
Keyshawn is always gonna play the middle. It’s safe. It’s comfortable. That’s why he got the job over the rest.
He is kinda right about that though. She is being too passive.
@@kashanti1 Shes a rookie... Vet close games out clown!!! Reese running a offense at all, like at all... carter and marina are
@@mambalevel1017 thats an excuse. she's pulling back. I see situations in games that in college she would have taken the shot, and here she is not. thats either her coach or her being affected by all the noise. she is still NOT playing HER game.
Context matters, a lot of Clarks turnovers are off her teammates not catching the ball.. and Reese half her rebounds are off her own point blank misses
When Key said 17 shots and 3 of 12 from 3 notice Rachel quickly put her head down like damn 😂
713 thats the points contribution of caitlin the highest in the wnba. Clear roty
She has the ball in her hands more than any player in the league and over 40 more turnovers. She's not that good
@@dwightkennedy7730you just admitted she has the more, wouldn’t that contribute to more turnover. Might be why lebron leads the NBA
U a clown picking one stat pick her leading the league in turnovers
You can create every little statue want, but her turnovers and her lack of three-point shooting shows that is only one rookie of the year and she's leading the WNBA by 32 offensive rebounds more than anybody else in the league Angel Reese is a beast
That is not her point contribution, even CC states that.
Can't fault anyone for choosing either of these gals. But keep in mind CC is tasked with running the Fever’s offense, which is a much taller ask than Angel’s role. We were all told how hard it is for guards to transition to the W compared to bigger positions.
Also, watch what happens when CC sits. That Fever team completely collapses on offense. Even when she's not racking up assists, she's having a massive impact on spacing and others having an easier time getting theirs.
Exactly 😂lol CC literally has to play the whole game for her team to have a chance. They want to discredit CC so bad
She also leads the league in turnovers and is shooting 39% total, not from the 3, total. That’s not good.
Angel is tasked with guarding the better players!
Same thing happens when AR is off the court. They both have similar usage numbers, score the same amount of points for their teams, and both have 40% of their teams specialties (assists and rebounds). AR has one teammate who can consistently put up double digit points while CC has 3 (and two other all stars). If anything, that Sky offense relies on AR more than the Fever rely on CC. If CC has an off game they can still win but if AR does then the Sky could get blown out.
@@spydaman376 League average in the wnba is lower dont mislead people. Sue Bird shot 40% from the field her rookie season.
He notes turnovers, but quick passes to team mates who can't handle the pass are listed as turnovers.
Reese breaking WNBA records, CC breaking rookie records…..big difference
Lol
😂 if your name is the ONLY name on a list, it’s a little bigger deal than a name with multiple names on it.
She’s not even breaking rookie records she’s just breaking made up records oh she got three shots and then shoot her foot touched the court 17 times
@@S6xT2cry some more
Who cares lol it’s woman’s basketball you lib
Skip just wants her to shoot like a side show. She’s a point guard! She’s focused on winning.
He didn’t mention Angel is 36 in fg% and just recently shooting 41% from the field.
Winning what 😂
@@GahDayuummAngel is still a rookie and still learning while putting up big numbers
@@ghsense2626 So is CC. Angel is only putting up big rebound numbers. CC leads in everything else including blocks. You saying “big numbers” is very misleading.
skip loves rebond, he wants to give the jordan MVP to Rodman 😅
CC is already the Goat of WNBA
They wanna talk about Clark’s missed 3s but not Angel’s misses and the fact that she is the most blocked player in the W.
Not the most blocks. Her shot is blocked more than anyone in the league.
Rachel for one gave an honest take that caitlin is roty but she didn't pushback against these 2 ignorants. Cc is leading the whole nba in assits take that
And leading in turnovers also
Cc is not leading in Assists she is 3rd which is amazing. She is also leading the league in turnovers. Please don't invent narratives and facts to support your fave. Just for context AR is leading the league in rebounding they are both excelling at what they do well. AR deserves to be mentioned CC deserves to be the favorite to win ROTY
@@louisiana318But comparing these 2, CC has a better assist/turnover ratio...played out talking point when comparing them
@@anegril1 She is 2nd actually
@@anegril1CC has more blocks than Reese
They are clowns, CC is guarded from the 90 fts🤣🤣🤣
Just theory not fact 😂
How many times is she guarded from 90ft?
You are a clown... What are you on..
You must not watch the game. The start guarding her before the ball is even ready to in bound. They are on her like glue til she passes half court, then they often put a double team on her@@charisdiscuss7889
@@charisdiscuss7889exactly she's only been guarded from 90 ft maybe twice and that's at the end of a quarter when you know they're trying to give her the shot. They do that to any halfway decent shooter on any team in history
Only a clown would not guard somebody from that far if the objective is to get the ball up the court as fast as possible, just take the L. If you pay attention to other games which most of you Caitlin like fans don't you'll see that most people get picked up early in this league.
Clark has redefined the WNBA. She’s done more in one year for this league than any player ever has. She’s not only the best rookie, she’s the WNBA Player of the Year.
Angel Reese is Charles Oakley of WNBA. 10 points, 10 rebounds a game. You're going to give her the Rookie of the Year honors? Get outta here.
Keyshawn is on some BS saying Caitlin had a quick start with 5 losses and trying to downplay a triple double. Let’s not forget that she’s also got a number of double doubles too but we know Reese would never have 10 assists
Never say never, both are Amazing players why do people have to downplay one to lift the other. They play different positions. Can’t ignore Angels 12double doubles . They both have things to work on . And they both will get better.
She played with 2 additional all star players in Boston in Mitchell
She was 7-17 3-13 from 3 in her triple double game 😂😂
He did not downplay anything she was carried
@@ericjohnson1503 so you can carry someone to a triple double?
@@patricethomas5368 Angel will NEVER have 10 assists!
Yall white boys spin the narrative so much it’s funny. Now triple doubles matter 😂😂😂 when Westbrook averaged for 3 seasons it was nothing but when white people do it it’s special
Defense is just a non discussion when talking about white players, a player they’re being compared to can be just as good as them offensively but miles better defensively and only the offense matters in the discussion
Exactly.
Most guards breeze past Caitlin Clark as if she's not even there which is why she's placed on the bench for defensive reasons at the end of close games
They are avg the same amount of steals per game and Reece is not a shot blocker
HaHa... You're not biased at all. Did you watch the Sky game last night? Your favorite player got WORKED all second half on defense. Almost every Seattle score she's standing there in the paint watching with her hands at her side. Wow! That's great defense. LOL. Her lack of effectiveness and poor defense in the 2nd half was one of the main reasons they lost that game. But nobody likes to speak the truth when they're pushing an agenda.
That's a stereotype without substantiation.
No rookie has ever had a triple double and no rookie has ever averaged 17-7 and 6
It’s “not hard” to get a triple double as a rookie when in 26 years of WNBA existence no one has ever done it? Not hard though. Who is this clown?
They spent the whole segment talking about Caitlin’s flaws and none of angels flaws… the expectations cc has are astronomical
Y'all mad that's all it is. Get over it! Angel is doing something that Caitlyn isn't doing and making HISTORY! Caitlyn is doing something that others in the league has done when it comes to 3s.
Well CC fans made that the CASE.
@@LisaJoB2024 yeah sure
@@LisaJoB2024, 🎯
You obviously don't understand.
CC is underperforming
Angel is on par and over performing.
Why would they bring up her flaws when everyone knows that you are not going to make every shot or have high scoring games every night.
Some things are just obvious
Keyshawn snapped... It's way harder to get a triple double than double doubles cmon now
What he said was it’s harder to get 13 double doubles in a row than 1 triple double.
She’s only has 1
@@xavierreddick6555 ik what he said
@@deandreray3500 Ik
@@xavierreddick6555which is incorrect. But since Miss. Buttercup is black, what's wrong is now right. 😂
the fever started off 0-9 until Karen Clark finally realized that her teammates were better than her. they have been carrying her ever since.
Frist Rookie triple Double.
Fastest Rookie WNBA player to record 300 career points, 150 rebounds and 150 steals.
No player in WNBA history has averaged those numbers (16/7/5) in a season, and Clark is achieving this as a rookie.
Caitlin Clark now stands alone as the rookie with the most point-assist double-doubles in WNBA history - surpassing all-time great basketball superstar Sue Bird.
With just 22 games played. She can fill your 20k Arena's with tripled price. And you talk only her turnover. 🤣
Having a football guy talking basketball is weird af
Didn't have a problem when Sharpe was doing it.
I wish he wouldn’t spend at all he’s trash
Key knows his wnba, actually
Amad Rashad...
What's the difference in someone how never played sports talk about basketball
CC specialty is passing... & she's basically Leading the league in Assist, but let's sweep that under the rug🤨
No, she is not leading the league.
@Phizzo4real 2 days ago she did lead the league in assists. As of right now she is 2nd in assists in the whole league, not just rookies
Wrong Clarks specialty is shooting and she really hasn't been that good at it. But she will get better. Angel is definitely the rookie of the year right now.
@@joketsu100she has played 2-3 more games than most other players
@@bigman7570 it doesn't matter. Come back to this comment at the end of the season. The girl passes like Steve Nash. She's an elite passer court vision prodigy
Ladies and gentleman you just watched two analysts do the impossible.... Actually admit that Angel Reese is the Rookie of the Year, and its not even close. What Angel is doing is unprecedented in WNBA history, and has a good chance to break the WNBA record for most double doubles in a season... As a rookie. Thats actually insane.
I dont think a female player has ever been focused on defensively like CC ever. She is still putting up numbers.
Not true Candace Parker went through the same thing her rookie year she even got it into fights. She took a beating her rookie year.
@@skybourne6 zero 💍
She’s number one on the scouting reports.
@@TheWalt0357Rebecca Lobo “Caitlin Clark has been getting an unprecedented amount of attention on defense. We’ve never seen anything like it. I’ve been watching film of other high profile rookies their rookie year and none of them were being picked up at 93 feet when they didn’t have the ball. None of them were being picked up at 50 feet on the weak side when they didn’t have the ball.”
@TheWalt0357 Not to this degree where it's national headlines and the biggest story in sports.
Caitlin Clark leads ALL players in the WNBA for points scored and assisted on. 713
Second is Ionescu at 708
Third is Ogunbuwale at 684
Fourth is A Wilson at 638
@@Shining-a-Light those are fake numbers
Clark's 122 turnovers through Saturday are well ahead of any other player. Perhaps rookie of the year honors should go to a player who doesn't so frequently give the ball to the other team - or at least one who has more made field goals per game than she has committed turnovers.
@@RDTIME808
But, 25% of Reese’s rebounds are from her own missed shots.
@@winstonsyme5899 rather that than a turnover any day.
@@TurnFromWickedness
So 23% of her offensive rebounds are from her own missed shots.
Now it’s being proven that Reese’s stats are being padded by opposing teams helping her reach the ten points in the fourth quarter when the game is already won or lost.
How did I know Rachel would pick CC 😂
Because she isn't biased based on skin color. 👌
How did I know key whill choose angel
@@watchmesquatchfacts CC’s so popular who makes up 95% of the US population 😂😂😂
Ltfol!!!!!!!
@deandreray3500 Black person supports a black athlete... You are so strong. you're a hero.
A white person supports a white athlete... You are a racist POS.
2:23 Caitlin is a rookie primary ball handler on a team that went 13-27 last year, turnovers are expected.
She also makes passes that are elite and special. Her team is finally learning how to be ready for those passes. The turnovers will improve as time goes on
Is that your excuse when no other rookie has ever had as many turnovers as she had?🤣
What other ropkie guard has been double and triple teamed every time they touched the ball@@brabea23
so why did their point gaurd last year average 5 assist on 2.1 turnovers?
@@brabea23 you should probably look at all the turnovers her teammates cost Clark on the stat sheet.
pretty pathetic drops or complete misses that count against Clark.
but i guess everyone can ignore that haha
Who are these guys kidding? Caitlin Clark is the only reason anyone is paying *_ATTENTION_* to the WNBA. 🤣🤣🤣!!!!
I'm just glad I have this to watch while I'm waiting for NFL to start... Must See TV!!
yo ngl keyshawn is on the level of bmarsh of being a trash analyst
Promise he is. 😂😂😂
Yep. As soon as I saw he was Shannon’s replacement I knew the show was in trouble. He was unwatchable on ESPN. His arguments are bad and is delivery is whiney and annoying.
@@William_Stephens like bro its sad how skip had a great argument as to why reese should be roty. rachel made a great argument too and then you have this dude keyshawn. I promise you dude hasnt seen 5 games of either one of them play
You mad he didn't pick the white girl?
@@MrDerrickrose25boy u work 9-5. U watching him talk
The league has only seen 35 total Triple Doubles in 27 year
When you try to act like Reese is on same level as Clark I lose all respect for your sports sense .
What’s the stat for Reese rebounding her own misses and shoots primarily from within a foot of the basket. That needs to be taken into account when reviewing that stat.
These people wouldn’t even be talking about the wnba if it wasn’t for CC
People didn’t no who she was until she was embarrassed n college championship game by Reese 😂 Jon cena think before u speak
@@LordxWeeVLshe lead Iowa to 2 straight national titles. Reese couldn’t do that in her wildest dreams .
@@The509sfinest Reese did that and actually WON!! Going for 2 years straight and coming out of both in tears and a LOSER is crazy!
@@The509sfinestshe lead Iowa to what? Where’s the rings? That’s like bron getting to the finals 10 times. Great feat but faced defeat so it doesn’t really matter honestly 🤷🏿♂️ angel has the chip 💪🏿
@@LordxWeeVLClark actually beat both LSU and South Carolina in the ncaa tournament.
In 2023 she scored 41 points vs Aliyah Boston's South Carolina team eliminating them in the final four
And
In 2024 she scored 41 points vs Reese's LSU team, eliminating them in the elite-eight.
The fact that she laughed when Keyshawn brought up CC turnovers tells me all I need to know.
It's Catlin Clark hands down. She runs her whole team's offense. She just beat Taurusi and took down the top team. She was up by 15 on the sky and if not for some terrible coaching by sides she would be 3-0 against Angel. She is still 2-1 against the Sky.
It wasn't terrible coaching it was ANGEL REESE that started dominating
Still leading league in turnovers. You didn’t mention that part. If yall removed race out of it , you would clearly see Angel has been playing better
So when they were up by 15 the coach gets no recognition, when Reese went to work, it was terrible coaching? 😂
@@franknatti5367 The only reason she leads the league in turnovers is because her team mates can't catch a ball or set screens to save their lives.
@@marquezsmith8889 It was precisely because of bad coaching that they lost that game. The coach is being acknowledged for the thing she needs to be acknowledged for; her failure.
Skip just made the argument to fire sides lol. Literally said why does she get a board and push it down the court fast and then wait for the offense to set up. Sounds like coaching
No just proves that he doesn't watch the games. CC does push the ball a lot for easy fast break points, not every single play though.
@@Ackalack187 I think he meant she should push the ball as in drive the lane or make a shot in transition when the defense can’t double her or press her because they lapsed on a fast break. I have noticed she does not seem as free since entering wnba where in college she just ran the offense
You are really desperate for ratings aren't ya lol
The turn overs is because her teammates mishandle the ball on the pass but Clark gets the turnover. But yes, that needs to be cleaned up.
Funny how people who are supposed to know what they are talking about , leave that point out. Almost like they have a motive.
No there is a guy on Tik Tok that breaks them all down its a 3 to 1 ratio of her fault. She literally has tp adjust to the game speed
Even though the receiver tip ball to the DB, the quarterback gets the interception. Nobody complaining about that stat.
She make bad passes. This isn't college, it's the pros.
She’s not a great ball handler. Most of her turnovers are based on bad passes.
CC breaks rookie record. Angel breaks WNBA record. What are we talking about here?
33% from 3 and 42 more T.O and she shoot the ball more but you people say she should be rookie of the year only in America 😂😂.
If u can’t judge them because they’re rookies why are u talking about them lol I see ms nichols is pushing a narrative up there!
Caitlin is just a far better player if you watch the games...this conversation is pointless
She relies on her teammates setting picks.
Right!!!!
I have and that’s not true.
Far better no 😂 you must be white
You’re white
This shows the sports media is delusional. Angel Reese is missing open lay ups all her rebounds are from her own misses
"a triple double Is easier" obviously he's speaking in relativity to consecutive double doubles
Caitlin Clark is the Rookie of the Year favorite and they know it! They are tiptoeing all around the phenomenal achievements of CC22 like they are scared to be honest!
They are just taking their marching orders from their woke mind virus corporate overloads.
No one is tip toeing around anything. I think people love Caitil so much (which is understandable) that they discount how good Angel Reese is. She’s a monster.
Rachel brought up a great point. People have called CC the "Steph Curry" of women's basketball. If you look at Steph's early years, he kinda struggled with turnovers as well before he became the champ we know him as today.
He was not as bad as her not even close.
Steph curry comparisons are ridiculous. Competition level was nowhere near the same. Steph curry early years were plagued with ankle injuries.
Steph struggled early on because of injuries not because of his shooting ability
That lady is seething they picked Angel Reese. 😂😂😂 now all of a sudden they cant judge the rookie year.
No one talks about Angel being so one dimensional. 90 of 113 of her buckets have been under 5ft. Not to mention she’s getting her shots blocked more than anyone in the league. 45 blocks against, only one other player in the WNBA has more than 35 blocks against
Caitlin Clark reached 350 points and 150 assists in her 22nd career game. That's the fastest mark by any player to start a season in WNBA history, regardless of years in the league. All while trying to keep her teammates involved as well. Clark is rookie of the year by far! Also while being guarded fiercely by all defenders every night.
No she’s not 💍😢
Don’t forget the 100 plus rebounds
Shed have a lot more assists if her teammates would stop dropping the dime passes she hands to them.
Everyone is guarded fiercely in the league every night, lol. 😂
@@kashanti1false narrative and more victim excuses. It’s been proven that her passes are reckless and not the fault of her team.
CC has so many weapons and is skillful in so many categories. She's been pretty much singlehandedly raising up her teammates and the league at large. She's unparalelled. She stands alone.
Reese surpassed Candace Parker; Caitlin surpassed 996 (all WNBA players) players. Shut-up Skip.
We all know there is a list of triple doubles in the NBA, nobody knows the double double list, that is nonsense
You’re comparing nba doubles doubles with 7 foot centers to the wnba where it’s only like 3 girls over 6’7?? Just stop. Angel Reese would be a point guard in the nba she’s 6’3.
This isn’t the NBA 😂 how strange.
You’re white and don’t know sports at all
@@qball2500They scared of us.
@@qball2500Clark breaking turnover record soon I wonder how the coverage will be