I've never even thought about watching a WNBA game... EVER. Now, I'm actually thinking about it. That may not sound like much, but trust me, it's A LOT.
Idk about being mad but I think some people are just not going to allow a unproven rookie to think she’s better than the wnba because we know a lot of white people have that persona 🤷♂️,but we know sports will always be dominated by blacks so I don’t see why people are so mad
Who's mad or hating on her tho have you heard any player come out and say anything negative about her only people hating are people on the internet the media is pushing this propaganda that players are jealous and hate her when theirs no facts to back up their claim
Its because it wasn't generated from them, but from one person. Its Jealousy, pure and simple. And the thing is, there is nothing wrong with being jealous. If you really think about it, Jealousy is the catalyst to ambition. How that Jealousy manifests and is managed though is what matters and differentiates it as good or bad. This is just an example of bad jealousy. None of those complaining are working harder to become better so the spotlight falls on them. They don't have the mindset of the Mamba - RIP.
@@SodoDolo facts…. same group of gender that want equality Caitlyn as an equal, but that jealousy only proves that no matter the skill set, at the end of the day they want want easy handouts. Funny thing about this whole situation is that the senior players can’t deal with the fact, younger players are more recognized over them.
@@MgambireBabako I agree. Especially that last part. And I can understand the why. The WNBA was growing (slowly), but with the arrival of the high profile rookies like Clark it has resulted in Exponential growth for the WNBA - something none of the “old heads” so to speak, were able to accomplish. But that happens throughout history that someone redefines the game and helps it grow. I mean after all, Michael Jordan, Steph Curry, Lebron James, and many others when they came in to the league redefined the game and I don’t recall many, if any, NBA players trying to take that away from them.
To be fair, I cared literally zero about the WNBA before Clark, and now I'm watching a video about it. Probably sitting at a solid passing interest now.
Lol i think its the same for most of us. I have probably watched hours worth of videos on facebook and youtube about Clark and Reese while scrolling. But I have yet to actually tune into any college or WNBA games.
but guess what that can be also a 100k or a million for another one or a few other brands. is so silly! I would be working harder to gain attention and be competitive so that I can also score a big deal ... rivalries are good but when you get dirty is no good.
Do better, and that could be you. That’s the message they seem to be missing. You want more, then work for it. If the WNBA was as good as the NBA, they would all be rich. Steph Curry is rich, because he is that good. CC is just better, get over it.
One thing that seems to be 100% consistent among the sports talk show host and the viewing public. They back Caitlin Clark 200% and the entire WNBA should be thanking Caitlin Clark 300%.
@@deadflies4265 lmao you seem so butthurt. yes, there are a TON of casual wnba fans, because most sports fans don't find the wnba entertaining. Clark is starting to change that.
She’s the reason why this dead league is even being talked about. They just Jealous a rookie has done what no other women WNBA player has ever done in their entire careers.
The problem though is, its not just her but the WNBA and entities like ESPN, Fox Sports want folks to think it is all her and her alone. The viewership has increased across the board for many teams and its not because they only care to see CC. They want to see the other new ladies like Reese, Cardoso, and Brink play. If you pay attention, you can see how they are spinning this narrative of it all being because of CC. She deserves many props for increasing a lot of interest in the game but its completely unfair for these people to sit up here and totally ignore the impact the other ladies are making on the league. And the sad part is its all on purpose.
@@Useyahead09 She's shown 0 hatred. Just because other players hate her does not mean she brought hatred to the league of women that already hated eachother. now they just hate her
Thank-u for NOT having annoying background music, so nice. The woman explaining how CC is not getting enviously viewed and other WNBA and former players are wildly "jealous" is SOOOO funny. And the man in the LIME suit who forgot to wear a tie, made a couple of good points cause he says he LIVED it.
I’m from Washington state and the Seattle storm usually gets like 6500-8000 average attendance to games. Caitlin and her team played the storm the other night and sold out the arena with almost 20,000 people there.
The fact that they're even spending this much time talking about the WNBA on this show, proves her impact. How many times since the show's inception have they even talked about women's basketball at all?
It's controversy that drives the amount of time spent talking about CC. If the women in the WNBA treated CC with kids gloves, you would not hear any of these shows comment so much about her or the WNBA. Just like the media does with regular news. Good news doesn't sell. It's boring to our society. When they can push negative stories that get people more emotionally invested, their ratings go up. Look at our political landscape. The negative/controversial sells. They are going to keep stoking the controversies as much as they can to get as much as they can from the ratings. The WNBA is not the only entity that relies on viewership for their financial success.
I remember when Tiger Woods came on tour and people were mad he signed a $40 mill contract and people were hating... Now PGA tour players are multi-millionaires unlike we have ever seen for golfers.
@@icemanredwhat younmeansh ain winning. She broke almost every ncaaw record. When she travels more fans at away games let me say again not home games but away games are the only time the other cities sell out they own arenas. When did and magi was running the NBA the dinthye on Michael they road that gravy train also long as they could. NBA players don't like each other but when it comes to making money they don't trip on who it is that allows them to make more money
@@icemanred Would love to know how you get to back-to-back championship games without winning? Iowa won 109 games in the four years she was there. That's the most wins in a four year period in the schools history.
@@jovelhamilton601 You know what I meant. She hasn't won any championships. Everything I mentioned about Tiger was related to winning championships. If Tiger was just winning rounds of golf but not winning any tournaments, Tiger would not have the fame he has because he would be just another golfer. If Jordan had not won any championships, would we still be calling him the GOAT? So don't be obtuse with regards to what I meant when I said she hasn't won anything.
@@stevevanwagener7097 How many championships does she have? It's not like Iowa women's basketball has been a power house and Caitlin came and wrecked it. She definitely brought a level of play to the school and women's college hoops that has never been seen before. Not taking away any of what she brings. But the OP was comparing her to Tiger, who was winning tournaments before he turned pro and continued to do so after turning pro. Championships is what I'm talking about.
The majority of her fans are ignorant to what has already been there, and they overlook that this draft class as a whole has brought more eyes to the game. But they want to act like it's only their eyes. Which just isn't true.
Exactly. Ask yourself who does get to decide. It can't be the people who say that they just started watching because of CC. They were introduced to her via marketing. Who is behind the marketing and why choose someone that has not won anything at the college level and crown them queen and messiah of the WNBA before she even played a single WNBA game?
I’m 53 years old and I have never watched WNBA or college until Angel and Caitlin. It’s Bird and Magic all over again but it’s women. I still only watch they games. Be happy they bringing eyes to your sport.
Fever is 0-5 and I seriously do not care if they win one game, I'll still tune in every night to see what Caitlin Clark can do. Why? I don't know lol .... she is the chosen one.
A LOT of the the petty criticism targeted at Clark is racially motivated, and the other factor is just a lot of ignorance. She is new, playing in a league against experience players, give her time to adjust. The only reason the WNBA is talked about is due to Clark. Before her the league was just a bunch of mannish looking women nobody cared to watch.
And why is anyone talking about CC? Because of the rivalry that started last year between Angel and CC. So CC owes some of her attention to Angel and LSU.
Finally! I spotted someone spelling Caitlin with a “y”. You’re probably the type of person who sees green when the rest of the population sees blue. 😂😂😂😂
Amerca likes her because she is not a bitter lesbian with macsuine energy, not because she is white. Paige Bueckers is white and very skilled, and she doesn't get the same amount of attention. Caitlin Clark represents what America wants to see more of in the WNBA-feminine, skilled, well mannered, well spoken, humble.
YES!! NEVER watched the WNBA before! Wouldn't even take a second out to watch these videos, let alone comment. I would watch UCONN women's basketball, so I knew of those women players. BUT, I haven't watched them since, until now. It's NOT about race! It's the NIL, which is the reason influencers exist on social media! Doesn't matter who is better, it matters that they matter! Thus, Caitlin Clark has endorsements. NOT ONE major corporation is going to spend millions on merch/product that won't sell. Period.
She is the reason why I watch WNBA now. She is not the best, but very interesting to watch. She keeps trying and give everything she can. She is calm and humble like Steph. Go on WNBA, go on Caitlin.
@@rickyism1576 And you took the bait to show what's in your heart....that was a very kindhearted comment that u just replied to...no ill will, just a personal opinion and u responded to it with hate...get the hate out of your heart and show kindness instead....there is no peace in hate
Went to Sparks vs Fever last night at Crypto , the place was PACKED just to watch Caitlin pre game shoot around ! Sell out crowd and was louder then ANY of the 36 Laker games I have been to !! Every time Caitlin put up a 3 the crowd went insane !! Loved it ! Keep doing you #22 !!!!
My biggest thing regarding W players that know they’re better and might resent CC’s attention…they gotta remember that Caitlin didn’t ask for any of this. All she did was play basketball and this all happened because of who she is and how she plays. She didn’t ask for any of this and she also only talks about giving grace, and lifting up women’s basketball, and being happy that little kids are inspired. Can’t be too mad at that
Exactly. She balled her way here, no scandals no nothing. One can say other players have done the same. They have, but we have not seen a Caitlin Clark until she showed up
So the team thats is 0 -5 thats is over looked right let me ask something if angel resse was what would the media be saying about her I wonder the facts don't lie this has the potential to the worst promoted player in history
Call it what it is!!! Jealousy!!!!! They need to appreciate and ride the wave 🌊!!! Use the opportunity to personally shine and not try to dim another’s light.
@@phillipt1697 This is a fact, but the only caveat is that a rookie Jordan would buss anybody @ss that had a problem with him. Caitlyn is a year or two away from doing that to the WNBA.
Their salaries are not going to increase. The league operates at a loss. Gonna need to start highlighting other players to really get the league jumpstarted. Magic needed Bird... Clark needs someone.. can't be just Clark when she isn't even as good as the other women.
Doesn't take a rocket scientist to deduce that a woman who can sink 40 ft. 3 pointers at game speed is going to get a LOT of attention. She can also pass, rebound and run at HER top speed while dribbling a basketball.
They say its all cuz CC its white, but where is all the hate for Sue Bird, Brianna, Plum, Sabrina then??? People just wanna hate cuz they want. Because she has actually done it number-wise like she the freaking greatest scorer in NCAA wtf we talking bout.
Those other women are not relatable or likeable. Thats the problem. Caitlin is likeable and people relate to her. If nobody likes you and you are always angry nobody wants to be watch or be around that. I learned that in my own life. Once I made myself more likable I got invited out more oftern by coworkers, etc.
A lot of wnba players don't like the others to have a platform.shes bringing recognition to the wnba.also that's why nobody watches because of the turasis of the world
@@mikemanolo Thats not what I meant. I should have worded it differently. I meant the ones that are making comments on TV and social media. This is a golden opportunity for everyone to shine and get recognition and quit putting the haters on. The media is going to ruin this for everyone. Who cares who gets the credit. The men didnt care that bird, magic, or jordan got credti for bringing attention to the league because they knew everyone was going to benefit from the exposure. The market has decided she is the chosen one and all will get more money because of her.
She just didn’t realize they are petty, jealous and aging out, so they don’t have a heart for her. Not mature and it will cost everyone of them, including the referees and coaches and owners
Agree. The case for CC's college "it/star" factor and the Steph-like appeal that broke thru and ignited exponential change make sense, but calling her the GOAT? Not buyin' that (at least not yet) and my guess is that saying things like that based on college stats and star power, ruffles way more feathers than other claims/contexts.
@@jenellreid9610 As a man I love the WNBA. I've been watching since 1997. I can understand why players feel the way they do. All you have to do is scroll down ESPNs videos. In the past they showed all wnba highlights, now it's all cc. If they truly cared about the wnba they would be pushing to show more of the whole league in between the cc videos. So how is she helping the whole league? All other teams have been pushed out the way, only ppl benefiting now is cc and the fever. Even the teams what beat cc get no talk time. I want to see everyone benefit but that doesn't seem to be the case.
Mannnn. I hear more people excited about Anger Reese than I do with Caitlin Clark. I feel like CC just happened to be drafted during a time when the world started appreciating women’s basketball. But CC isn’t the sole reason for the number.
It don't think all the players are "hating" on her or "jealous". It would be nice if they would state several comments of who said what specifically. Charles Barkley said a week ago that the WNBA featuring almost all Clark's game on TV may have some unintended consequences. But then says the next week that the players, should be thanking her. Which one is it? lol
If you see the intentional hard screens they set on her, you would know they are targeting her. You only target people like that when you have something against them.
@@latimer4964she getting target because like him ppl calling her the goat, their savior, n a lot of them better than her , so they trynna show they are better that's it that's all
It wouldn’t have taken 5 years…. Women’s bball needed a superstar that was taken headlines and needed to be seen. Joy said it, “you needed a star to break through”
@mranointedthree7123 Your hero hasn't won a game. A championship, are the NCAA scoring title. That belongs to a black woman named Pearl Monroe .and they weren't shooting 3s during her area. Heroes are born, not created. She boring 😴 She's not exciting to watch. She not coming into the league dominating as y'all thought she would. And she's not scoring at a high level. She should be averaging about 35 points a game. 0-5 that some greatness right there. What are y'all going to say if she doesn't win a game. Who fought would it be. Everyone but hers. Tell me I'm lying.
@@larrybillups5689 Just admit you're a racist. Individual performance has nothing to do with team accomplishments. You need role players to win. So in your point of view Flacco is a better QB than Marino.
Joy Taylor is SPOT ON ! The "it" factor can't be defined and you never know who the chosen one will be. Everyone else just needs to embrace and enjoy the ride!
Yeah, I want to see Caitlin so I'm watching her games or highlights. I'm not sure why. Something about her game is very much fun to watch. Some of it is the bombs she shoots from distance. But there's also good passing and handles. Even though she needs to improve the handles and passing and lower her TOs, and her defense is soft. But, her game is compelling. She also has a lot of fire.
The Coach Prime said, he didn't have to talk trash. His game was to loud. If her game was up to par, these people wouldn't have all these excuses for her.
Lol, you don’t watch Deion play. He talked a shitload of trash when he played and was one of the biggest showboats which is another form of trash talking.
It's not about a 3-point shot anybody can shoot three-pointers it's about her it's about the way she walks the way she talks the way she carries herself the way she smiles the way she dribbles the ball with the way she runs up the court is everything she has it she is the chosen one
And they shouldn't. I love my black sista's but her numbers speak for itself so there's no need to make it about race. I'm glad to have Angel in my city after Candace Parker left. She is having a great start, but let's give Caitlin her credit.
@dwaynejackson6935 Who says ppl haven't given her credit. She's gotten tons of credit, as she should. However, there r other players deserving of credit as well. Let's not forget, LSU beat Iowa in the National Championship.
It's not about race, slow one. It's a clear jealousy issue perpetuated by the vet women. The old hags hating on the young girl. And it's not even the stuff on the court that drives me to that conclusion, there have been numerous interviews and posts about wnba players hating on Clark even before she stepped on a wnba court.
No they aren't scared. This panel (minus Joy) is the most intelligent group of sports talk personalities on TV and they are smart enough to know that race isn't the issue. Too bad you don't understand that but I get it. When you don't really have a legitimate argument throw in the race card.
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I haven't heard no Player saying anything about her it's the fan
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RACE is a Major Part of WHY Clark is Now the HEAD of the WNBA. Fact.
@@bobby12348some of it is implied, like the reference Reese made- we know what she meant!
Joy said she can’t define what it is about her…..the Nile ain’t just a river in Egypt
Women being jealous of other women is not new.
🎯🎯🎯
Facts and they fake like they love each other
This why women can’t run the country because they can’t get along with each other
These women are professional athletes in their own right. They are not fan girls. Stop the nonsense. No one has hated Clark.
Try getting them to agree on something.
I've watched 3 WNBA games this year, that's 3 more than ever before. She's why. 👍👍
😂👍🏾👍🏾
Exactly!😂
It's growing because caitlin clark is a biological MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And the only reason why you're paying any attention to her is because she's white. That's the issue.
I've never even thought about watching a WNBA game... EVER. Now, I'm actually thinking about it. That may not sound like much, but trust me, it's A LOT.
Imagine being mad that someone’s bringing recognition to your sport
Right?! Spot on
Exactly. This girl has done and said all the right things, but people will always find something to hate about someone if they try hard enough.
Idk about being mad but I think some people are just not going to allow a unproven rookie to think she’s better than the wnba because we know a lot of white people have that persona 🤷♂️,but we know sports will always be dominated by blacks so I don’t see why people are so mad
Who's mad or hating on her tho have you heard any player come out and say anything negative about her only people hating are people on the internet the media is pushing this propaganda that players are jealous and hate her when theirs no facts to back up their claim
It’s not some people it’s women especially black women because of the attention she’s getting plain and simple
The most real conversation I’ve heard in a while…. Excellent points made!
Joy Taylor; I don't want to call it Jealousy ...Why ?/Why Not ? That's exactly what it is stop protecting the sister hood..... its petty Jealousy.
She's just a racist 🤡🐴 304. Some good ol TV run through.
Exactly, what it is. Leave racism out of All sports. You're suppose to be a Team.Hmmmm.
Because Joy Taylor is also jealous of Caitlin.
Fax
Name it, Claim it, and Own it.
"She's taking all the shine away from us" WHAT SHINE?? 😂
They get plenty of shine! Kelsey Plum smoking cigars and repeating!
What shines she losing all her game. She taking nothing. She got nothing.😂
@@marcusbrooks7861who you talking about your mama 😂👍🏿
It's not intangible. She is white and that's why white America has attached to her so strongly.
@@ElderGoonOnly a casual would say that. She's more like James Harden. Plum is more like Steph
Caitlyn is CLASSY! Her great values shine. Caitlyn signs autographs after every game. She understands these young fans ARE important to their product.
Classy women don't have nood shower videos floating around in the internet......
@@oceandrop7666do she?
@@oceandrop7666where u find that ? Asking for a friend
@@oceandrop7666show receipts if you are going to spew allegations.
@@ludwig7974 imagine not knowing how a search engine works in 2024. This your first day on the internet to everyone asking me this question?
Women in the WNBA are mad at Caitlin for bringing in the viewership they’ve been asking for? 😂
Who without Caitlin will still be riding Greyhound bus
women...
Its because it wasn't generated from them, but from one person. Its Jealousy, pure and simple.
And the thing is, there is nothing wrong with being jealous. If you really think about it, Jealousy is the catalyst to ambition. How that Jealousy manifests and is managed though is what matters and differentiates it as good or bad.
This is just an example of bad jealousy. None of those complaining are working harder to become better so the spotlight falls on them. They don't have the mindset of the Mamba - RIP.
@@SodoDolo facts…. same group of gender that want equality Caitlyn as an equal, but that jealousy only proves that no matter the skill set, at the end of the day they want want easy handouts. Funny thing about this whole situation is that the senior players can’t deal with the fact, younger players are more recognized over them.
@@MgambireBabako I agree. Especially that last part. And I can understand the why. The WNBA was growing (slowly), but with the arrival of the high profile rookies like Clark it has resulted in Exponential growth for the WNBA - something none of the “old heads” so to speak, were able to accomplish. But that happens throughout history that someone redefines the game and helps it grow.
I mean after all, Michael Jordan, Steph Curry, Lebron James, and many others when they came in to the league redefined the game and I don’t recall many, if any, NBA players trying to take that away from them.
WNBA: “Pay attention to us”
Also WNBA: “Not THAT way”!!!
lol brilliant
women☕
women☕
FACTS!
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To be fair, I cared literally zero about the WNBA before Clark, and now I'm watching a video about it. Probably sitting at a solid passing interest now.
You are white lol who cares
Lol i think its the same for most of us. I have probably watched hours worth of videos on facebook and youtube about Clark and Reese while scrolling. But I have yet to actually tune into any college or WNBA games.
Clark wasn’t known until she lost to Reese
@@franknatti5367 nobody remembers that though 😂😂
@@franknatti5367 good point
I think they jealous because I heard Caitlin got a 20million dollar deal from Nike. 😂
28 million over 8 years.
wrong........
its $28 MILLION>.
hheheheheh.. oh those crocodile tears..
😂😂 I would be jealous, You would be jealous to. Americans always wrong, vote for Trump America needs a Star, the Best president ever😂
but guess what that can be also a 100k or a million for another one or a few other brands. is so silly! I would be working harder to gain attention and be competitive so that I can also score a big deal ... rivalries are good but when you get dirty is no good.
Do better, and that could be you. That’s the message they seem to be missing. You want more, then work for it. If the WNBA was as good as the NBA, they would all be rich. Steph Curry is rich, because he is that good. CC is just better, get over it.
One thing that seems to be 100% consistent among the sports talk show host and the viewing public. They back Caitlin Clark 200% and the entire WNBA should be thanking Caitlin Clark 300%.
“There were stars before Clark”
Proceeds to name people I’ve never heard of before ever.
Because you’re a casual and one of these soft crybaby CC fans. The softest fan base in sports history
@@deadflies4265 At least Clark has a fan base.
@@deadflies4265 lmao you seem so butthurt. yes, there are a TON of casual wnba fans, because most sports fans don't find the wnba entertaining. Clark is starting to change that.
That’s sad. How y’all like women’s basketball and don’t even watch women’s basketball.
@@KwizMatix Caitlin Clark
They are jealous period
PERIOD
@@IsaacNavarro-dr5fr blood is thicker
Respect is earned, not given. Theyre being petty and jealousy is there 100%
The biggest enemy of a woman's success is OTHER WOMEN!
The sad reality!!
In all professions. Even in nursing….sadly😢. Its so toxic!
@@bradleyd6000 No it is and has always been you, MEN
Woman being petty? Wow, shocking
Facts
Charles tried to woke it up stayin men are more pettty
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@soda8736 Men are petty but nah women take the cake lmao
@@soda8736 Yea, because men are never petty.
It’s not just her 3 point shot, it’s about the way she plays the game.
Bingo
Greatly stated!
If C. Clark was Bl..k, it would be Deferent!!
Facts
Elaborate on what you mean by "the way she plays the game".
Jealousy is a ugly emotion.
Bro Joy Taylor literally looks different when I'm looking at her
Fact
"i don't wanna call it jealousy" instead, she gives the definition of jealousy instead of the word. smh
I've watched more WNBA games in the past month than I ever did in my life. 10 times from 0 times.
That's the Caitlin Angel EFFECT. NOONE WAS WATCHING UNTIL THAT DRAMA UNFOLDED. PERIOD!!
That's not something to brag about.
@@marcusrhillYou’d be right if it was shameful. 99% of humanity ain’t watching the WNBA.
@@Pucci_DI agree
@@marcusrhill well it's because of CC that I started watching. I'm not bragging, that'sjust facts.
She’s the reason why this dead league is even being talked about. They just Jealous a rookie has done what no other women WNBA player has ever done in their entire careers.
It's growing because caitlin clark is a biological MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I didn't even know who she was til the overlay viral media drama between her and Angel, sooooo.
@@Pucci_DShe's still the reason people are even tuning into the WNBA now, so....
The problem though is, its not just her but the WNBA and entities like ESPN, Fox Sports want folks to think it is all her and her alone. The viewership has increased across the board for many teams and its not because they only care to see CC. They want to see the other new ladies like Reese, Cardoso, and Brink play. If you pay attention, you can see how they are spinning this narrative of it all being because of CC. She deserves many props for increasing a lot of interest in the game but its completely unfair for these people to sit up here and totally ignore the impact the other ladies are making on the league. And the sad part is its all on purpose.
What has she done? She’s not the reason people are tuning into the WNBA, the media’s and corporate world’s hype of her is.
Caitlin Clark BRINGS CLASS TO THE GAME!!!
Lmao class
And hatred and politics lol
@@Sophistikated_P Yeah class . Something you know nothing about obviously .
@@Useyahead09 She's shown 0 hatred. Just because other players hate her does not mean she brought hatred to the league of women that already hated eachother. now they just hate her
Thank-u for NOT having annoying background music, so nice. The woman explaining how CC is not getting enviously viewed and other WNBA and former players are wildly "jealous" is SOOOO funny. And the man in the LIME suit who forgot to wear a tie, made a couple of good points cause he says he LIVED it.
They ought to be thankful... Caitlin just wanted to play she didn't want all this hate. Heavy is the head that wears the crown.
I’m from Washington state and the Seattle storm usually gets like 6500-8000 average attendance to games. Caitlin and her team played the storm the other night and sold out the arena with almost 20,000 people there.
I watched my first WNBA game today. Thanks to Clark!!!
All of them should be backing her up and supporting her.. it is lifing the sport up
You said it best...she didn't ask for this...she was the chosen one and for great reason!!!
It's growing because caitlin clark is a biological MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Women being mean girls?? I’m shocked… said no one ever
The fact that they're even spending this much time talking about the WNBA on this show, proves her impact.
How many times since the show's inception have they even talked about women's basketball at all?
They dont care about CC. They love the drama and as long as they are putting CC on a pedastal they will bring eyeballs and clicks.
@@LiquidSoul06. So why couldn’t any eyeballs and clicks occur in the 27 years since prior?
Joy Taylor is absolutely the worse. My god. 😂, cringe..she is so disgusting too.
It's controversy that drives the amount of time spent talking about CC. If the women in the WNBA treated CC with kids gloves, you would not hear any of these shows comment so much about her or the WNBA. Just like the media does with regular news. Good news doesn't sell. It's boring to our society. When they can push negative stories that get people more emotionally invested, their ratings go up. Look at our political landscape. The negative/controversial sells. They are going to keep stoking the controversies as much as they can to get as much as they can from the ratings. The WNBA is not the only entity that relies on viewership for their financial success.
There is not a thin line between hate and facts. There is a Grand Canyon between them. Facts are not hateful. Ever.
I remember when Tiger Woods came on tour and people were mad he signed a $40 mill contract and people were hating... Now PGA tour players are multi-millionaires unlike we have ever seen for golfers.
But Tiger was winning! He won at the jr. amateur level, the amateur level, the pro-am and the pros. CC has not won anything, so why the hype?
@@icemanredwhat younmeansh ain winning. She broke almost every ncaaw record. When she travels more fans at away games let me say again not home games but away games are the only time the other cities sell out they own arenas. When did and magi was running the NBA the dinthye on Michael they road that gravy train also long as they could. NBA players don't like each other but when it comes to making money they don't trip on who it is that allows them to make more money
@@icemanred Would love to know how you get to back-to-back championship games without winning? Iowa won 109 games in the four years she was there. That's the most wins in a four year period in the schools history.
@@jovelhamilton601 You know what I meant. She hasn't won any championships. Everything I mentioned about Tiger was related to winning championships. If Tiger was just winning rounds of golf but not winning any tournaments, Tiger would not have the fame he has because he would be just another golfer. If Jordan had not won any championships, would we still be calling him the GOAT? So don't be obtuse with regards to what I meant when I said she hasn't won anything.
@@stevevanwagener7097 How many championships does she have? It's not like Iowa women's basketball has been a power house and Caitlin came and wrecked it. She definitely brought a level of play to the school and women's college hoops that has never been seen before. Not taking away any of what she brings. But the OP was comparing her to Tiger, who was winning tournaments before he turned pro and continued to do so after turning pro. Championships is what I'm talking about.
Thank you for one of the most honest commentaries I have seen on Caitlin Clark!!! This goes out to all four of you.
Jealousy is not a big word..... it's what it is and worst.
Woman logic
It’s called racism if she was a black girl they all be behind her
"Jealousy" is not an aggressive word when used talking about women. It's a natural word associated with women. It is what it is.
Thank you bro. CC is bringing light to everybody so why not be happy. It’s increased EXPONENTIALLY
Numbers don’t lie Clark is the only reason I started watching WNBA all credit goes to her I couldn’t name one player or a team name
you asking me, because i can name just about all players on the teams.
A biological male stealing more womens records, real tough...
She is garbage just hipe
I can’t even name what to this chick is on let alone point her out in a crowd.
The point is yall are way overhyping this girl
The majority of her fans are ignorant to what has already been there, and they overlook that this draft class as a whole has brought more eyes to the game. But they want to act like it's only their eyes. Which just isn't true.
High level conversation by this panel. Thank you.
A rising tide "LIFTS ALL BOATS!"
"We don't get to decide who the star is". This right here.
Exactly. Ask yourself who does get to decide. It can't be the people who say that they just started watching because of CC. They were introduced to her via marketing. Who is behind the marketing and why choose someone that has not won anything at the college level and crown them queen and messiah of the WNBA before she even played a single WNBA game?
Jealous much
@@user-ms6rm1fc9x Depends. Of what?
I’m 53 years old and I have never watched WNBA or college until Angel and Caitlin. It’s Bird and Magic all over again but it’s women. I still only watch they games. Be happy they bringing eyes to your sport.
THEY bringing eyes but only one getting the shine!
Angel is a bum
@@JoeJokes-l8j So are u but life goes on
The best reply I've seen.
@bloodAngelTerminator ...always being blind to modern day racism HELLO IT STILL EXISTS..DUHHHH
Fever is 0-5 and I seriously do not care if they win one game, I'll still tune in every night to see what Caitlin Clark can do. Why? I don't know lol .... she is the chosen one.
They will get more wins next year
😂😂😂😂 thats the media for you
You need a life…😂
@@monicamartin6090take your own advice, roflmao
I totally agree with you@ mikelocke
Jealousy is one of the deadly sins!
A LOT of the the petty criticism targeted at Clark is racially motivated, and the other factor is just a lot of ignorance. She is new, playing in a league against experience players, give her time to adjust. The only reason the WNBA is talked about is due to Clark. Before her the league was just a bunch of mannish looking women nobody cared to watch.
And why is anyone talking about CC? Because of the rivalry that started last year between Angel and CC. So CC owes some of her attention to Angel and LSU.
Caitlyn only being there for less than a month only 5 WNBA regular games !!
And they are hating on her instead of being grateful!!
Who? Give me a name?
@@loststoryproductionsSherryl, savannah, Deborah
@@1inchpunisher715 wrong. 🙄
Finally! I spotted someone spelling Caitlin with a “y”. You’re probably the type of person who sees green when the rest of the population sees blue. 😂😂😂😂
who's "they?"
Larry and Earvin in basketball,Tiger Woods in golf.....rising tides raise ALL BOATS. GROW UP AND GET ON WITH IT!GOD IS!
They HAVEN’T been putting out a “great product” - that’s part of the whole freaking point
Amerca likes her because she is not a bitter lesbian with macsuine energy, not because she is white. Paige Bueckers is white and very skilled, and she doesn't get the same amount of attention. Caitlin Clark represents what America wants to see more of in the WNBA-feminine, skilled, well mannered, well spoken, humble.
She's another great white hype, and how is she humble when she complains all the time?
💯 🎯
Caitlin Clark is far from feminine, they pushing her because she’s the great Yt hope
I don’t think Caitlin is that feminine.
Exactly all she did was not be an angry, unpleasant person , and Americans were happy to be her fans.
Correct. I am recognizing there are other stars in the WNBA thanks to Caitlin
Me too, I didn’t realize how talented some of these women are. Because of Caitlin and Angel, I’ve noticed how talented other stars are.
@@littlechange1659 💯
YES!! NEVER watched the WNBA before! Wouldn't even take a second out to watch these videos, let alone comment. I would watch UCONN women's basketball, so I knew of those women players. BUT, I haven't watched them since, until now. It's NOT about race! It's the NIL, which is the reason influencers exist on social media! Doesn't matter who is better, it matters that they matter! Thus, Caitlin Clark has endorsements. NOT ONE major corporation is going to spend millions on merch/product that won't sell. Period.
This is like a solid 6 befriending a solid 9 then saying the 9 is taking the nonexistent attention from her lol
Poor analogy. CC is not a 9 in this case. There are those who are more talented than CC, so how would they be the 6?
Yeah but girls let jealousy ruin so many things in life.
Yup 😂
"Don't try to understand women, women understand women and they hate each other." Al Bundy!
She is the reason why I watch WNBA now. She is not the best, but very interesting to watch. She keeps trying and give everything she can. She is calm and humble like Steph. Go on WNBA, go on Caitlin.
You took the bait then. Hope it's entertaining enough to keep you invested.
Not me I watch it before her
exactly to check Indiana score in the same way with NBA
I don't watch woman's basketball what is the point it has always been a man's game
@@rickyism1576 And you took the bait to show what's in your heart....that was a very kindhearted comment that u just replied to...no ill will, just a personal opinion and u responded to it with hate...get the hate out of your heart and show kindness instead....there is no peace in hate
Every time I go to throw some garbage in the basket from across the room I yell “Clark!” Yeah, I’m a girls girl. 😂
The best conversation on this so far
Went to Sparks vs Fever last night at Crypto , the place was PACKED just to watch Caitlin pre game shoot around ! Sell out crowd and was louder then ANY of the 36 Laker games I have been to !! Every time Caitlin put up a 3 the crowd went insane !! Loved it ! Keep doing you #22 !!!!
My biggest thing regarding W players that know they’re better and might resent CC’s attention…they gotta remember that Caitlin didn’t ask for any of this. All she did was play basketball and this all happened because of who she is and how she plays. She didn’t ask for any of this and she also only talks about giving grace, and lifting up women’s basketball, and being happy that little kids are inspired. Can’t be too mad at that
Exactly. She balled her way here, no scandals no nothing. One can say other players have done the same. They have, but we have not seen a Caitlin Clark until she showed up
Some people just have the IT factor and she has it. It's that simple.
This is the best conversation I have seen on this. Nice work
She comes across as super wholesome. I smile like an idiot when i watch her talk and see clips of her meeting people.
The Neo analogy was spot on 👌🤣
BS. THERE ARE PLAYER IN THERE ALREADY, BETTER THAN SHE IS.
It was spot on trash
@@Svottie-dl1qsNo that would be your comment
So the team thats is 0 -5 thats is over looked right let me ask something if angel resse was what would the media be saying about her I wonder the facts don't lie this has the potential to the worst promoted player in history
@Svottie-dl1qs I bet you wish it turned out that way hu 😂
“Comparison is the thief of joy” - Theodore Roosevelt
She has the IT factor.. Wait until she gets in her groove..
When you have the IT factor, we can see IT
@@RenardGarzaroCurry didn't show that IT factor off bat.
This went over heads lol@@RenardGarzaro
Lmao. The it factor? Wtf does that mean? Define "IT"
@@davidpetrosky are you really that dumb ? You need someone to explain that to you ?
Call it what it is!!! Jealousy!!!!! They need to appreciate and ride the wave 🌊!!! Use the opportunity to personally shine and not try to dim another’s light.
Clark has brought so much attention to a sport that no one cared about. People will complain about and hate on anything. It’s disgusting.
She's the Goat so what's the problem.
I mean that's exact
It really is disgusting!
A goat has rings and wins. Her delusional fans are setting her up for failure! @@bobby12348
People = women 😉
I had NEVER watched an WNBA game until Katlyn Clark!’
Please don’t help me increase my salary for no reason! I just want to be mad! 😂
Exactly! OG's all thank MJ for doing what he did because the salaries blew up after he went God mode
Exactly how stupid can you be
@@phillipt1697 This is a fact, but the only caveat is that a rookie Jordan would buss anybody @ss that had a problem with him. Caitlyn is a year or two away from doing that to the WNBA.
I see it the other way...as in even bad press is good press...all these women dissing Clark is also helping keep the w in the press.
Their salaries are not going to increase. The league operates at a loss. Gonna need to start highlighting other players to really get the league jumpstarted. Magic needed Bird... Clark needs someone.. can't be just Clark when she isn't even as good as the other women.
Caitlin Clark is playing like a Hall of famer. That's why she's the goat.
Doesn't take a rocket scientist to deduce that a woman who can sink 40 ft. 3 pointers at game speed is going to get a LOT of attention. She can also pass, rebound and run at HER top speed while dribbling a basketball.
face it. Women and Jealousy always go together
This is the FIRST discussion I have watched about this subject that I could say I thoroughly enjoyed. Thank you for that!
"When you soar like an eagle, you attract the hunters."
-Milton S Gould.
They say its all cuz CC its white, but where is all the hate for Sue Bird, Brianna, Plum, Sabrina then??? People just wanna hate cuz they want. Because she has actually done it number-wise like she the freaking greatest scorer in NCAA wtf we talking bout.
I completely agree with Barkley & Joy's take on this. Let everyone go cry in the corner. 🥺😭😂
Those other women are not relatable or likeable. Thats the problem. Caitlin is likeable and people relate to her. If nobody likes you and you are always angry nobody wants to be watch or be around that. I learned that in my own life. Once I made myself more likable I got invited out more oftern by coworkers, etc.
A lot of wnba players don't like the others to have a platform.shes bringing recognition to the wnba.also that's why nobody watches because of the turasis of the world
No one else in the league is likable?
They are all alphabet people. CC represents common people way more
@@mikemanolo Thats not what I meant. I should have worded it differently. I meant the ones that are making comments on TV and social media. This is a golden opportunity for everyone to shine and get recognition and quit putting the haters on. The media is going to ruin this for everyone. Who cares who gets the credit. The men didnt care that bird, magic, or jordan got credti for bringing attention to the league because they knew everyone was going to benefit from the exposure. The market has decided she is the chosen one and all will get more money because of her.
Black women players are jealous of her
People seem to forget that she constantly talked about all the women inWNBA that she looked up to and inspired to be like.
She just didn’t realize they are petty, jealous and aging out, so they don’t have a heart for her. Not mature and it will cost everyone of them, including the referees and coaches and owners
It was going so well until Shady decided to call her the GOAT... Smh 😂
They're giving her a title that has to be earned.
@@itsruffoutchea6636that’s my think. I’m like The Goat? She hasn’t played in the W long enough to be a Goat!!
Agree. The case for CC's college "it/star" factor and the Steph-like appeal that broke thru and ignited exponential change make sense, but calling her the GOAT? Not buyin' that (at least not yet) and my guess is that saying things like that based on college stats and star power, ruffles way more feathers than other claims/contexts.
@@jenellreid9610 As a man I love the WNBA. I've been watching since 1997. I can understand why players feel the way they do. All you have to do is scroll down ESPNs videos. In the past they showed all wnba highlights, now it's all cc. If they truly cared about the wnba they would be pushing to show more of the whole league in between the cc videos. So how is she helping the whole league? All other teams have been pushed out the way, only ppl benefiting now is cc and the fever. Even the teams what beat cc get no talk time. I want to see everyone benefit but that doesn't seem to be the case.
Yeah, I realize his takes are clownish. Actually, him and Joy have ridiculous takes at times.
"Barbershops talking about Caitlin Clark." Which ones ? Fantastic Sam's? 😂
EXACTLY 😂😂😂
any black barbershop...r u dumb?
Nah.... FABULOUSTH FRANKSTH !!!
Mannnn. I hear more people excited about Anger Reese than I do with Caitlin Clark. I feel like CC just happened to be drafted during a time when the world started appreciating women’s basketball. But CC isn’t the sole reason for the number.
They gave white people CC and they gave American-African people Angel Reese. It was the best move to increase viewership.
I loved every part of this conversation. Logical and Level-Headed
It don't think all the players are "hating" on her or "jealous". It would be nice if they would state several comments of who said what specifically. Charles Barkley said a week ago that the WNBA featuring almost all Clark's game on TV may have some unintended consequences. But then says the next week that the players, should be thanking her. Which one is it? lol
If you see the intentional hard screens they set on her, you would know they are targeting her. You only target people like that when you have something against them.
@@latimer4964 The clean basketball play that she ran right into. I guess they shouldn't defend her at all. Just let her score, it's good for business.
@@latimer4964she getting target because like him ppl calling her the goat, their savior, n a lot of them better than her , so they trynna show they are better that's it that's all
Barkley can be correct on both counts.
Exactly!@@MrT67
It wouldn’t have taken 5 years…. Women’s bball needed a superstar that was taken headlines and needed to be seen. Joy said it, “you needed a star to break through”
She's not a star in the WNBA. What has she done on the court?
@@larrybillups5689exactly.. All hype
@mranointedthree7123 Your hero hasn't won a game. A championship, are the NCAA scoring title. That belongs to a black woman named Pearl Monroe .and they weren't shooting 3s during her area. Heroes are born, not created. She boring 😴 She's not exciting to watch. She not coming into the league dominating as y'all thought she would. And she's not scoring at a high level. She should be averaging about 35 points a game. 0-5 that some greatness right there. What are y'all going to say if she doesn't win a game. Who fought would it be. Everyone but hers. Tell me I'm lying.
@@mranointedthree7123 Reese has who 2 game. One against a team that beat CC
@@larrybillups5689 Just admit you're a racist. Individual performance has nothing to do with team accomplishments. You need role players to win. So in your point of view Flacco is a better QB than Marino.
Insecurity is at all time high 😂😂😂
Yes it is 😂😂😂
For?
I never watched the WNBA until CC came along. She's a phenom!
They are ALL LIKE NAH “WE LIKED FLYING COMMERCIAL” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 🤡
Joy Taylor is SPOT ON !
The "it" factor can't be defined and you never know who the chosen one will be. Everyone else just needs to embrace and enjoy the ride!
Yeah, I want to see Caitlin so I'm watching her games or highlights. I'm not sure why. Something about her game is very much fun to watch. Some of it is the bombs she shoots from distance. But there's also good passing and handles. Even though she needs to improve the handles and passing and lower her TOs, and her defense is soft. But, her game is compelling. She also has a lot of fire.
Why they have the same problem with Trump
Shady what Barbershop in the hood you go to and they talking about Clark???
Exactly none lmao
Lmao
FACTZ! 🤣
They are talking about the wnba and hating on her.
I mean WHICH one
W acho that breakdown was clean ngl
The Coach Prime said, he didn't have to talk trash. His game was to loud. If her game was up to par, these people wouldn't have all these excuses for her.
Lol, you don’t watch Deion play. He talked a shitload of trash when he played and was one of the biggest showboats which is another form of trash talking.
Rookies have growing pains in any league. Why people so set out to hate on her.
If Colorado played up to par, people won't have all these excuse for Sanders.
@Kingepticon L
Complete BS! He never talked trash. Prime and players of his era have always said he never talked trash on field.
@@Kingepticonprime literally said out his mouth he didn’t talk trash. Try again
How dare she bring more fans to watch them play. 🤦
They mad cuz she’s white smh
They only care about her you simpleton
@@raqui174 trolll
Joy is only 5 feet 2? "So you're say I got a chance!"
😂😂😂😂😂
Don't hate the player, hate the game
Jealousy is the enemy here. Im not that surprised
It's not about a 3-point shot anybody can shoot three-pointers it's about her it's about the way she walks the way she talks the way she carries herself the way she smiles the way she dribbles the ball with the way she runs up the court is everything she has it she is the chosen one
This happens in any profession when there are a lot of women that work together. It's the fight to the top situation
Number 1 picks always get a lot of attention when they come in the league. Especially, if the player has generational talent.
Not like this they haven't
Name me anyone of the 10 last WNBA #1 picks
They didn't even touch on race. They scared.
Truth. I wonder if Fox touched on that before the show.
And they shouldn't. I love my black sista's but her numbers speak for itself so there's no need to make it about race. I'm glad to have Angel in my city after Candace Parker left. She is having a great start, but let's give Caitlin her credit.
@dwaynejackson6935 Who says ppl haven't given her credit. She's gotten tons of credit, as she should. However, there r other players deserving of credit as well. Let's not forget, LSU beat Iowa in the National Championship.
It's not about race, slow one. It's a clear jealousy issue perpetuated by the vet women. The old hags hating on the young girl. And it's not even the stuff on the court that drives me to that conclusion, there have been numerous interviews and posts about wnba players hating on Clark even before she stepped on a wnba court.
No they aren't scared. This panel (minus Joy) is the most intelligent group of sports talk personalities on TV and they are smart enough to know that race isn't the issue. Too bad you don't understand that but I get it. When you don't really have a legitimate argument throw in the race card.
I walked into a Lexus dealership recently and the Indiana Fever were playing on the big screen TV in the showroom!!!! When have you ever seen that?