Ranking the WORST and BEST debut albums (tier list)

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  • @Phandephilly
    @Phandephilly 2 месяца назад +469

    Finn thinks fans saying Bleach is Nirvana's best work is too much of a contrarian, Hipster opinion, then saying One More Light is Linkin's Park's best work is pretty funny

    • @JoinMeInDeathBaby
      @JoinMeInDeathBaby 2 месяца назад +56

      My contrarian take is right, your contrarian take is contrarian

    • @Retro-2-now
      @Retro-2-now 2 месяца назад +23

      My favorite album of all time is their Unplugged session. Something about that album takes me right back to that time in life

    • @deltamaxxhomevideo
      @deltamaxxhomevideo 2 месяца назад +20

      @@JoinMeInDeathBaby Contrary to contrarian belief, I take the contrary position.

    • @volodymyrbilyk555
      @volodymyrbilyk555 2 месяца назад +14

      Bleach is really good noise rock album. However, they went on to better things afterwards

    • @allosanthrwpos542
      @allosanthrwpos542 2 месяца назад +19

      He has some serious double standards

  • @jacegrant29
    @jacegrant29 2 месяца назад +273

    Shoutout to the one dude in chat who asked for Milo Goes to College every 5 seconds throughout the video

  • @stewartdowouis9218
    @stewartdowouis9218 2 месяца назад +143

    Appetite for Destruction always felt like a gift from heaven to humanity. Like something that fell from the sky. I don’t even understand how 5 random drunk dudes did that. Doesn’t seem real. Probably the greatest example ever of accidental brilliance

    • @volodymyrbilyk555
      @volodymyrbilyk555 2 месяца назад +9

      They been grinding for years and it showed. Large chunk of Use your illusion was also written during that time - and the quality really shows in contrast with the latter stuff that goes into more bombast direction

    • @em0tionalpavu1on
      @em0tionalpavu1on 2 месяца назад

      There is no single good song on its own on this album though. Ranging from (mostly) unlistenable to (sometimes) meh. I wonder which exactly moments are great in Finn’a perspective

    • @stewartdowouis9218
      @stewartdowouis9218 2 месяца назад +19

      @@em0tionalpavu1onIs this a real life question? Literally half of the album was top 40 hits.

    • @LegoBuilderStudios
      @LegoBuilderStudios 2 месяца назад +17

      @@em0tionalpavu1on My brother in Christ, Appetite for Destruction is one of those rare albums that is entirely skipless. Even the deep cuts such as Anything Goes and You're Crazy hit hard, and Rocket Queen (to me) is the greatest album closer of all time 🤓

    • @simondavies109
      @simondavies109 2 месяца назад +2

      I remember in school, 16 years old saying I don't like GNR. Thought I'd give them one more go, put Appetite on at the start of the summer holidays and didn't really put it off till the end.

  • @blueshattrick
    @blueshattrick 2 месяца назад +101

    Fin: "Debut albums are either the best or worst thing ever!"
    *Also Fin: puts the majority of albums in middle A - C tiers

    • @burningtheevidence8038
      @burningtheevidence8038 2 месяца назад +4

      Because that is originally an elitist/gatekeeper statement. Like "I've known this band before they became famous! Their first album is the best, y'all have no idea what you're talking about!"
      And I dont consider him being an elitist/gatekeeper.
      IMO the second/third album is the best one for a lot of bands. That's when they found their sound, know what works and what doesnt, and in case they got signed properly, a good producer might bring out the best of a band.
      Afterwards, a lot of bands become too polished/commercial or start to repeat themselves.

    • @meowtherainbowx4163
      @meowtherainbowx4163 2 месяца назад +2

      I think that's because a lot of the bands he covered don't have any terrible albums, so their worst album is still B or C tier.

    • @emartinezr
      @emartinezr 2 месяца назад +1

      He said that from the view of "the public". ie people just shout out extreme opinions and don't look/listen to things objectively......

    • @michaeldoyle189
      @michaeldoyle189 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@burningtheevidence8038 proper take. Bands typically have a similar trajectory. Debut lays the ground work. 2nd album sets the direction the band will take. Third is usually where the sound of the band, musicianship, songwriting, and production really come together. It's rare that a band's 4th+ album is a band at their peak.

  • @KilljoyRPMX
    @KilljoyRPMX 2 месяца назад +219

    finn always says the c tier is the real S tier so kill em all is his fav album of all time

    • @FinnMckentyPRMBA
      @FinnMckentyPRMBA  2 месяца назад +124

      Got me

    • @mg682
      @mg682 2 месяца назад +6

      Ha! Got him!

    • @SuperStrik9
      @SuperStrik9 2 месяца назад +24

      I know dude hates Metallica. Fair enough. Even if you don't like Metallica and/or Kill Em All you have to acknowledge it's influence on thrash metal. Along with Slayer - Show No Mercy those albums were revolutionary in the metal scene.

    • @ThatShitGood
      @ThatShitGood 2 месяца назад +5

      @@SuperStrik9honestly he doesn’t hate metallica, what he genuinely hates is megadeth

    • @billtackett8217
      @billtackett8217 2 месяца назад +9

      I thumbed-down this vid because of the Metallica take lol. Kill 'em All is a better debut than Bleach, ffs.

  • @anothersettlementneedsyour9628
    @anothersettlementneedsyour9628 2 месяца назад +67

    I consider Kill Em’ All not just one the best thrash albums, but one of the best albums in any genre not just in metal. It’s perfectly raw, has that nice teen angst in it yet competent musicians.. I don’t get how can one praise Show No Mercy while not being into Kill Em’ All
    Also 3 Dollar Bill Ya’ll is fucking awesome too.

    • @ThundersMcCoy
      @ThundersMcCoy 2 месяца назад

      Spot on. Add Nuns Have No Fun, Melissa & Black Metal to that group & that was life back in the day. I was always a Glam/Punk/Goth kid but when those records came out I was all about them. I'll still throw them on once a week or so.

    • @anticharlie1
      @anticharlie1 2 месяца назад

      Exactly!

    • @Vivi_9
      @Vivi_9 2 месяца назад +6

      KEA is laughably bad compared to the 4 albums that came after

    • @dyldog
      @dyldog Месяц назад +2

      @@Vivi_9exactly😂 if anything Ride The Lightning is the best thrash album, but objectively no Metallica album is the “best of any genre”

    • @erikbritz8095
      @erikbritz8095 Месяц назад +5

      I agree and saying kill em alls bad is a crime imo.

  • @StuartHetzler
    @StuartHetzler 2 месяца назад +54

    " "Alright, yeah!"
    -James Hetfield "
    -Finn McKenty, 2024

  • @d4ydr34m3r420
    @d4ydr34m3r420 2 месяца назад +86

    Three Dollar bill yall is A Tier

    • @gasmaskestore8018
      @gasmaskestore8018 2 месяца назад +19

      Yeah, killer record but everybody is too cool to admit it

    • @davidthejester34333
      @davidthejester34333 2 месяца назад +3

      B tier at best, besides best lb album

    • @benrobinson375
      @benrobinson375 2 месяца назад

      I like LB but... nah :D

    • @rikevans3348
      @rikevans3348 2 месяца назад +6

      That album is the only of its kind. One of my all time favorites

    • @kennethosburn2962
      @kennethosburn2962 2 месяца назад +9

      He purposely chose the worst sound on that album to rate it as awful.
      Faith and Stuck are absolute God-tier recordings and have aged well.

  • @tonytoofast
    @tonytoofast 2 месяца назад +53

    I mean Psycho Synner's 100 albums released in one year were all unskippable 10's.

  • @rejectscorner9939
    @rejectscorner9939 2 месяца назад +33

    I have ZERO millennial nostalgia for 3 dollar bill yall and that shit is awesome as fuck

    • @bushleague3472
      @bushleague3472 2 месяца назад +6

      Absolutely, for me everything that LB did after was a letdown. Not sure how a guy who's into actual punk, rap, and HC could think so little of that album.

    • @JONDAVIS111
      @JONDAVIS111 2 месяца назад +3

      He's out of his fucking mind. It's easily 1 or 1.a

    • @laurisaarinen1126
      @laurisaarinen1126 Месяц назад

      It's the only LB album that was really raw and unhinged, kind of in a similar spirit to Korn and early Slipknot, still had some of it on Significant Other but started getting bit less interesting. I never get people praising Break Stuff, it was one of the first bad signs of the direction they were going for.

  • @gasmaskestore8018
    @gasmaskestore8018 2 месяца назад +28

    I am 100% sure that Finn has never listened to Three Dollar Bill Y'all

    • @lowerbodyinjury
      @lowerbodyinjury Месяц назад +3

      facts, record slaps

    • @albertfrostmire6706
      @albertfrostmire6706 Месяц назад

      Yeah I love it. But I am from Jacksonville so I might be biased.

    • @gasmaskestore8018
      @gasmaskestore8018 Месяц назад +2

      @@albertfrostmire6706 I am from Mexico and we love it here

    • @jakehutson7534
      @jakehutson7534 Месяц назад +1

      It’s my favourite album that they did, pollution and sour are some of my favourite songs ever

    • @gasmaskestore8018
      @gasmaskestore8018 Месяц назад +2

      @@jakehutson7534 Pollution, Sour, Everything, Counterfeit, front to back S Tier record, crazy riffs and basslines

  • @analogsignal
    @analogsignal 2 месяца назад +55

    Korn- self titled, Deftones- Adrenaline, Foo Fighters- self titled, Green Day- Kerplunk, alkaline trio- Goddamnit. All S Tier

    • @johngrimm3837
      @johngrimm3837 2 месяца назад +13

      39/smooth was green days debut

    • @barkley8285
      @barkley8285 2 месяца назад +1

      No to all

    • @spacegrass2738
      @spacegrass2738 2 месяца назад +1

      Great list

    • @johnsonnavinr2522
      @johnsonnavinr2522 2 месяца назад +1

      Nah

    • @michaeldoyle189
      @michaeldoyle189 2 месяца назад +4

      Love the Deft Ones. But Adrenaline is kind of terrible. Has a few songs I still go back to regularly. But there are some cringe moments that didn't age well. That to me is the issue with a lot of Nu Metal, I may have loved it at the time, but much of it didn't age well.

  • @Bloods2006
    @Bloods2006 2 месяца назад +38

    Sound of the Seventh Trumpet being bad is a horrific take. This actually nails the early 00s metalcore sound and is good af.

    • @Kodeb8
      @Kodeb8 2 месяца назад +17

      It's their sloppiest album but it has soul!

    • @StableDruid130
      @StableDruid130 2 месяца назад +8

      I love that album but it's not good, it's got some redeeming elements to it(Rev doing drums in one take was cool) but a lot of the lyrics really aren't up to snuff with what Avenged Sevenfold put out later, even as soon as WTF. The vocals are bad, the mixing absolutely sucks. Production is non-existent. It doesn't really feel like it knows what it's trying to do a lot of the time, and while yes it has soul, just didn't really have what makes A7X A7X yet. I really enjoy it but I feel like there's something that needs to be reevaluated if you don't think that it's at best a C tier album.

    • @alvatrous
      @alvatrous 2 месяца назад +4

      Lips of deceit was one I always liked but the album as a whole…

    • @legendsidewinder7206
      @legendsidewinder7206 2 месяца назад

      I agree

    • @codyscards6698
      @codyscards6698 2 месяца назад

      I really like the album. Not perfect for sure, but has a lot of cool stuff on it.

  • @solearesoul
    @solearesoul 2 месяца назад +10

    I’ve heard you talk about Appetite For Destruction many times and I 100% agree, god tier album. Would love to see a whole video about it one day.

  • @skipadbutton7526
    @skipadbutton7526 2 месяца назад +16

    As a biased The Strokes enjoyer, Is This It is an easy S tier. Influenced a ton of bands after its release as well. Massive impact on the next generation of “rock” artists

    • @CraigMahaney
      @CraigMahaney 2 месяца назад +1

      Completely agree. Great album every song is great.

    • @AlqhemyA
      @AlqhemyA Месяц назад

      agreed, every Strokes album is an easy S tier for me

  • @1mlb704
    @1mlb704 2 месяца назад +12

    Pearl Jam's Ten is S tier. I know you're not into it Finn, but it's probably the second most iconic and successful rock album of the early 90s. That said, I like Vs and Vitalogy more

  • @ax4encrypted
    @ax4encrypted 2 месяца назад +9

    Obituary, Sepultura, Hatebreed, Slipknot and Emmure all have S tier debut albums

  • @LimpyKjr117
    @LimpyKjr117 2 месяца назад +17

    I still love slayers debut because it sounds more like Judas Priest but with the Slayer edge

    • @joshuaprietophoto
      @joshuaprietophoto 2 месяца назад +1

      Absolutely.

    • @LimpyKjr117
      @LimpyKjr117 2 месяца назад +3

      Fight Til Death is such a fun riff to play too, The Antichrist, Tormentor and Black Magic are great.

    • @volodymyrbilyk555
      @volodymyrbilyk555 2 месяца назад +3

      Judas Priest and Venom. And then Celtic Frost took it even further

  • @rjclark2264
    @rjclark2264 2 месяца назад +22

    3 Dollar Bill Y’all was amazing.

    • @JONDAVIS111
      @JONDAVIS111 2 месяца назад +3

      He's out of his God damn mind. 3 dollar bill is easily top 2. I'd say insignificant other 1 and 3 dollar bill 1a

    • @rikevans3348
      @rikevans3348 2 месяца назад +2

      "It doesn't even sound like they're playing the same song". Finns trying a little too hard there. $3 bill yall is amazing

  • @adamg.manning6088
    @adamg.manning6088 2 месяца назад +11

    Whilst they weren’t precisely the first, the Strokes did it right.
    It sounds authentic because they recorded it in a room together like a “real” band. They purposely made it sound like shit, but the musicianship holds up and everyone wanted to be them or fuck them.
    Everyone else aped them and then the scene ate itself.

    • @Interestingenough4
      @Interestingenough4 2 месяца назад

      Besides The Strokes, The Arctic Monkeys, The Black Keys, and The White Stripes were the only other bands who did that whole "retro garage revival rock" trend right in my opinion, then like you said the scene quickly ate itself with copycats, some of whom still managed to squeak out some solid songs. But the trend still proved to be influential, despite being short-lived. The Killers and Cage The Elephant were basically its spiritual successors, they sold pretty well and had huge hits. And The Black Keys and The Arctic Monkeys hit their career peaks YEARS after the trend was out of fashion.

  • @MrGalego95
    @MrGalego95 2 месяца назад +17

    Weird. I am not a Metallica fan (neither a hater, just whatever) and I really like Kill em All. I love the rawness they put on that.
    What I do am is a Nirvana fan and Bleach is their worst studio album... Which isn't a bad thing to say because everything else they recorded is simply great. Bleach is, IMO, a very good debut and you can already see signs of a huge band in there. But... Better than Nevermind? No fucking way

    • @bushleague3472
      @bushleague3472 2 месяца назад

      To me Nevermind sounded too radio rock, and Utero sounded like it was more concerned with making a point than actually being good. Bleach just comes off as raw and natural, and factoring in the budget/ time/ equipment limitations that album is a masterpiece IMO. I can understand liking Nevermind more, but Utero, really? It honestly sounds like at least 1/3 of the vocals on that album use roughly the same melody line.

    • @simondavies109
      @simondavies109 2 месяца назад

      Objectively definately better than Nevermind. Proper grunge.

    • @dph025prod
      @dph025prod 22 часа назад

      Bleach has some great songs, but Grohl is the difference between okay Bleach Nirvana and amazing Nevermind Nirvana. I still think Bleach is better than most of In Utero, that album just seemed like such a let down.

  • @dr.juerdotitsgo5119
    @dr.juerdotitsgo5119 2 месяца назад +5

    The guy from Lagwagon said it best, "At the start the band is more focused on rehearsal, not recording techniques, so they end up sounding more like they do live, and that's why many people prefer the bands first albums".

  • @kdeeznuttz
    @kdeeznuttz 2 месяца назад +35

    I'm in my 40's and I like limp bizkit now. It's corny, but it rocks when you're BBQing.." Give me something break"😅

    • @spacegrass2738
      @spacegrass2738 2 месяца назад +5

      Same here.I’m 46 and never cared for them.For some reason I love them now 🤷🏽

    • @benrobinson375
      @benrobinson375 2 месяца назад +2

      Yeah Limp Bizkit is corny and fun. Interestingly I never cared for them during their heyday either.

    • @Bigmouthstrikes82
      @Bigmouthstrikes82 2 месяца назад

      So sorry

    • @kdeeznuttz
      @kdeeznuttz 2 месяца назад

      @@Bigmouthstrikes82 for what?

  • @killerVeNoM101
    @killerVeNoM101 2 месяца назад +14

    I honestly like A7X's debut album. lol

    • @CraigMahaney
      @CraigMahaney 2 месяца назад

      Nice never heard it. I saw them open for I think dio or mushrooomhead. Wasnt impressed but Rev was at the merch booth looking bored.

    • @Jedan1806
      @Jedan1806 Месяц назад

      I agree I feel like the sloppiness and overall chaos makes it super fun to listen to.

  • @rikevans3348
    @rikevans3348 2 месяца назад +34

    $3 dollar bill is amazing. Don't care what anyone says.

    • @jadenhancock
      @jadenhancock 2 месяца назад +3

      Fr one of my favorites

    • @RWDPwr
      @RWDPwr 2 месяца назад +1

      Very underrated if you are into the genre

    • @Shortmansyndromexd
      @Shortmansyndromexd 2 месяца назад +1

      Especially sour easily most underrated track on the album

  • @itjustgetsworseproductions
    @itjustgetsworseproductions 2 месяца назад +19

    Bleach is alright. It's literally just two separate recordings from two different sessions glued together & called an album.

    • @itjustgetsworseproductions
      @itjustgetsworseproductions 2 месяца назад +3

      One half of the album was recorded with Dale cover (of the Melvins) & the other half was recorded with their new drummer at the time Chad channing a couple months after.
      They had two / three lineup changes by the time they even got the album out.

    • @simondavies109
      @simondavies109 2 месяца назад +3

      Bleach is a fantastic album. Brilliant raw sound and the guitars and vocals are killer!

    • @itjustgetsworseproductions
      @itjustgetsworseproductions 2 месяца назад +2

      @simondavies109 bleach is great. If you're still in high school. I think Nevermind & in utero have more to offer in lyrics, songwriting, riffs, & the entire package as a whole.
      I think bleach could've been so much more in my eyes had the band released it a year earlier.

    • @simondavies109
      @simondavies109 2 месяца назад

      ​@@itjustgetsworseproductionsYeah I don't always think music is 'subjective' but definately with Nirvana mate. In Utero my personal favourite. I also think Incesticide is massively underrated.

  • @harryallen1175
    @harryallen1175 2 месяца назад +4

    I've just done 3 weeks of listening to bands first albums from my collection. I had forgotten how good some of them were.
    Kill em all is still one of my favourites despite better albums later down the line.
    Bleach I thought was great. Really nice to get that more rough and ready nirvana sound.
    Pablo honey by radio head was a stand out for me. I was shamed i had left it so long between listens.
    And shout out to frogstomp by sliverchair. So damn young and it sounded so good. The definition of having a 10 years experience requirement for your first job.

  • @Mantis.Sartinoli
    @Mantis.Sartinoli 2 месяца назад +4

    It's pretty funny listening to Finn say "this is bad, it sounds like a local band" when all of these bands were literally local bands since it's their first album

  • @MCastleberry1980
    @MCastleberry1980 2 месяца назад +11

    The production may be pretty "meh" for Kill em All, but there are some bangers on the album. "Seek and Destroy" , "Whiplash", "Four Horsemen" and "Phantom Lord" are all up there. I always think of "Kill em All" as the most fun Metallica album.

  • @skree_fpv436
    @skree_fpv436 2 месяца назад +24

    How dare you say something so vile as "3 Dollar Bill Y'all is absolute trash!" My butt...it hurts...so very bad.

    • @twwells
      @twwells 2 месяца назад +2

      I love that album

    • @elcheekoful
      @elcheekoful 2 месяца назад +1

      Yeah I've got to get some 💊💉 for my butt hurt agony. I gotta see the Dr soon.

  • @cemeteryindustrialcomplex3486
    @cemeteryindustrialcomplex3486 2 месяца назад +5

    Nirvana is tough because all 3 albums sound quite different. I can see people that like metal or Melvins type sludge grunge liking Bleach best. Nevermind is way more pop and straightforward and hooky. In Utero is rawer depressioncore. Obviously Nevermind is the most influential, though.

  • @dudeno3182
    @dudeno3182 2 месяца назад +8

    If you make a part 2 of this. I think The Poison from Bullet for my valentine deserves a shout!

    • @Bloods2006
      @Bloods2006 2 месяца назад

      Such an incredible album. It wasn’t until I got older and started playing guitar where I could truly appreciate how difficult playing some of those songs are. They had a band called ‘John Killed Jeff’ or something along those lines before BFMV which is more nu metal

    • @alvatrous
      @alvatrous 2 месяца назад

      Funny enough I think their ep hand of blood is even better

    • @zterpz7332
      @zterpz7332 2 месяца назад

      Scream aim fire is their debut lolll?

    • @dudeno3182
      @dudeno3182 2 месяца назад +2

      @@zterpz7332 no, Scream Aim Fire was their second album, it came out in 2008, The Poison was in 2005.

    • @zterpz7332
      @zterpz7332 2 месяца назад

      @@dudeno3182 bro Google it, scream aim fire its literally their debut

  • @MofosOfMetal
    @MofosOfMetal 2 месяца назад +3

    There's actually a LOT of people who actually prefer that early Thrash era when it was evolving out of Speed Metal.
    1986 was the gamechanger year for Thrash when those bands when Metallica and Slayer released the "genre-defining" albums Master & Reign but over time I've grown a HUGE appreciation for the early pre-1986 albums that have that sweet spot between Traditional Heavy Metal and fully formed Thrash Metal.
    There's a unique charm to the style of those early albums that was lost when Thrash fully evolved. Don't get me wrong - LOVE full-blown Thrash - Justice is actually my favourite Thrash record - but I can TOTALLY see why people would rate the debuts as their favourites.

  • @needfoolthings
    @needfoolthings 2 месяца назад +2

    Twisted Sister's Under the Blade, Aereogramme's Story in White, Dredg's Leitmotif, Korn's Korn, Roxette's and David Hasselhoff's debuts, Rage Against the Machine's Rage Against the Machine, Kyuss'ss'ss'sss Blues for the Red Sun... all S tier.

  • @LordJudgement1818
    @LordJudgement1818 2 месяца назад +4

    Hybrid theory is a no skip. Best album for me and they aren't even in my top 10 bands

  • @LinktoSonic
    @LinktoSonic 2 месяца назад +8

    Nah, finn and chat are crazy. Kill Em All is an amazing solid album.

  • @edsheeran1243
    @edsheeran1243 2 месяца назад +2

    Need to put calculating infinity in the next tier list

  • @leftymcnally6913
    @leftymcnally6913 2 месяца назад +4

    Cro Mags. Pretty perfect debut

  • @flapjack413
    @flapjack413 2 месяца назад +3

    100% agree on Appetite. Hands down one of the greatest rock albums of all time. Perfection.

  • @cravensleepwalker5804
    @cravensleepwalker5804 2 месяца назад +4

    Finn... Homie... You almost lost me at Kill Em All. You're a touch too young (and I almost am too) but when Kill 'em all came out it changed Metal forever. If Lars wasn't drumming it would have blown Slayer away. But you redeemed yourself with all the love you gave Appetite. That album literally made people stop in their tracks when they heard it playing and say "Whoa! Who is this?" A true NO SKIP album if there ever was one.

  • @christophergureski3863
    @christophergureski3863 2 месяца назад

    Would love to see u review the frosty 3eb album front to back it’s beautiful and catchy

  • @JoltinJoe26
    @JoltinJoe26 2 месяца назад +2

    Hmmm....for S Tier debuts, I'd definitely go (chronologically):
    KISS
    Van Halen I
    Iron Maiden
    Kill 'Em All
    Show No Mercy
    Soul of a New Machine

  • @analogsignal
    @analogsignal 2 месяца назад +43

    3 Dollar Bill is fucking incredible. You couldn’t be more wrong

    • @Kodeb8
      @Kodeb8 2 месяца назад +4

      Right? Their first 3 albums are GOATED but TDBY is their best!

    • @Cheps69
      @Cheps69 2 месяца назад

      It's the only one I like, everything afterwards was crap, well except for the song with Method Man

    • @Jaweatherford86
      @Jaweatherford86 2 месяца назад

      Hell yeah. Gold Cobra is the worst LB album. Some people say Results May Vary but those people are wrong.

    • @anti-liberal7167
      @anti-liberal7167 2 месяца назад

      I agree 💯💯💯

    • @ax4encrypted
      @ax4encrypted 2 месяца назад

      Their best and hardest album

  • @davedronski7749
    @davedronski7749 2 месяца назад +1

    A fever you can't sweat out still holds up today!

  • @Brutaldeathkingpin
    @Brutaldeathkingpin Месяц назад

    I do love sounding the 7th trumpet alot but only for we come out at night shattered by broken dreams and warmness of the soul

  • @k.h.1587
    @k.h.1587 2 месяца назад +1

    One of the guys from a7x was in a cheezy Jr college recording class with me in 98

  • @whatistau
    @whatistau 2 месяца назад +1

    I would like to hear a take on the idea of first and sophmore album should be 1-2 perfect combo in order to secure artists name as legendary. Same with movies. As an example people often put Tarantino with Dogs & Pulp Fiction. What are the best 1-2 punch albums. And the same with first 3 songs run on the record.

    • @needfoolthings
      @needfoolthings 2 месяца назад

      Black Rebel Motorcycle Club, Aereogramme, Dredg, Tool, Twisted Sister, Radiohead, Nirvana, System of a Down, David Hasselhoff, Rage Against the Machine, Marilyn Manson, The 3rd & the Mortal, Queens of the Stone Age, Dimmu Borgir, Creedence Clearwater Revival, Mogwai, Kinderzimmer Productions, Theatre of Tragedy, Boston, Rammstein...
      I really don't know how exactly to stop this list.

  • @Brando-Lee3725
    @Brando-Lee3725 2 месяца назад

    Hell yeah ! I agree with you on Appetite for Destruction . I loved that raw gritty sleazy sound and how well you could hear the bass work by Duff . Not a bad song on it . Some songs im worn out on a bit but it still don't change the fact they were all killer ! I wish they would have stuck with that vibe . LIES EP was cool too .

  • @Sicdeceit36
    @Sicdeceit36 2 месяца назад

    Sounding the seventh trumpet is my favorite album it's so raw and the screams are so good

  • @Szaam
    @Szaam Месяц назад

    Shit, I'm 33 and was delighted when you started playing Hit the Lights.

  • @modeisin7
    @modeisin7 Месяц назад

    You should do a tier list of self titled albums because so many bands have at least one self titled album

  • @delix787
    @delix787 2 месяца назад +2

    I actually enjoy Avenged Sevenfold’s first album. My favorite song on the album is STREETS, simply because how fast the Rev shreds on those drums. 😱🥁
    I don’t think it’s terrible, but it’s definitely enjoyable for what it was, but I’m very aware that it’s not their best work whatsoever and no songs were iconic from that album at all.

  • @gagewaddell3441
    @gagewaddell3441 2 месяца назад

    🎉vols 2 and 3 soon plz.
    Do sophmore slums too

  • @flapjack413
    @flapjack413 2 месяца назад

    Oh shit, that Blink song was in an old snowboard video I had back in like 1994. Pretty sure I still have the tape, but no VCR anymore, lol. Sucks, cuz now I wanna watch it!

  • @VYRAM95
    @VYRAM95 2 месяца назад +2

    The box when it's not tight at all sounds super good in some genres, Avenged Sevenfold made that a bodacious thing with their first album.

  • @matthewdennis1739
    @matthewdennis1739 Месяц назад +1

    Hybrid Theory is one of the best opening albums of all-time in my opinion and my favorite album of theirs.

  • @permafrostprod1
    @permafrostprod1 2 месяца назад +1

    S TIER: (Best or near best work by artist)
    Gwar - Scumdogs of the universe
    Korn - Self titled
    Propaghandi - How to clean everything
    Unbreakable Hatred - Total Chaos
    Crass - The Feeding of the 5000
    Minor Threat - Minor Threat
    Berurier Noir - Macadam Massacre
    Half moon run - Dark eyes
    Motorhead - Self titled
    Hein Cooper - The art of Escape
    Cynic - Focus
    Fall of Effrafa - Owsla
    Les Ramoneurs de Menhirs- Dañs an diaoul
    The Maggoty Brats- Danse Macabre
    Rob - zombie - Hellbilly Deluxe
    Sum 41 - All killer no filler
    Nile - Amongst the Catacombs of Nephren-Ka
    Misery Index - Retaliate
    Zeal and Ardor- Devil is fine
    Kitty - Spit
    Tenacious D - Self titled
    Beastie Boy - Licenced to Ill
    Ramones - Self titled
    Suffocation - Effigy of the forgotten
    Rage against the machine- Self titled
    A tier: (Solid work but not their best album)
    The accused - The return of Martha Splaterhead
    S.O.D - Speak english or die
    D.R.I - Dirty Rotten
    Cryptopsy- Blasphemy made flesh
    D.B.C - Dead Brain Cells
    Groovy Aardvark- Eaters digest
    Rammstein - Herzeleid
    Marylin Manson - Portrait of an American Familly
    Foo Figther - Self Titled
    Darkthrone - Soulside Journey
    Iron Maiden - Self titled
    Misfits - Walk among us
    Metric - Live it out
    Dropkick Murphys - Do or Die
    Tool - undertow
    Oathbreaker - Maelström
    The Cranberries- Everybody is doing it so ehy can't we
    Bad Religion - How could else be any worst
    Pennywise - Self titled
    Immortal- Full moon mysticism
    White Ward - Origins
    Twenty one pilot - Self titled
    Sacred Reich - Ignorance
    Bloodhound gang - Use your fingers
    (Hed) P.E - Self titled
    F tier : (Shit or far from their best work)
    Slipknot - Mate Feed kill repeat
    Pantera - Metal Magic
    Nofx - Liberal Animation (I think it's good but far from their best/known work)
    Refused - This just might be the truth (again good but far from their succesfull albums)
    Silverchair - Frogstomp
    Red Hot Chili Peppers - Self titled (not bad att all but so far from their greatest work)
    Papa Roach - Old friend from young years
    Voivod - War and pain (good but even the remastered version is still super rough sounding)
    The Offsprings - Self titled (good but so far yet from the perfect album that is Smash)
    Eskimo Callboy - Bury me in vegas (Generic MySpace mish-mash)
    Ministry - White Sympathy (Not bad but far from what their known for)
    Kid Rock - Grits Sandwiches for breakfast (Not that he ever made great albums, he was for a moment popular on MTV. But this one surely wasn't going to make him the well known figure he is today)

  • @JpDubbed
    @JpDubbed 2 месяца назад

    7:10 How did I know this was coming 😂
    I will always love The Rev as an inspiration and icon, but the 7th trumpet isn't what captured me at all.

  • @asilaycrying6663
    @asilaycrying6663 2 месяца назад

    i love Finns "link in bio" bit to start every video lol. make that money!

    • @FinnMckentyPRMBA
      @FinnMckentyPRMBA  2 месяца назад +3

      I mean, yes? That’s literally the purpose of every job, right?

    • @asilaycrying6663
      @asilaycrying6663 2 месяца назад

      @@FinnMckentyPRMBA Absolutely!

  • @yourlocalantisocial963
    @yourlocalantisocial963 2 месяца назад

    Low key surprised you didn’t look at frogstomp by silverchair (my favourite debut album)

  • @swordoflaban6594
    @swordoflaban6594 Месяц назад

    My fav Blink songs ate on Nine. Ive been listening since the 90's. Liked the Matt Skiba stuff.

  • @xVooDooPiMPx
    @xVooDooPiMPx 2 месяца назад +2

    Does it make me a Limp Bizkit hipster then if I think 3 dolla bill is their best album?

    • @DrBdan8
      @DrBdan8 2 месяца назад +4

      No because 3 Dollar Bill Y'all is simply their best album.

  • @matp8479
    @matp8479 2 месяца назад

    That avenge has some old poison the well vibes

  • @collintrinityfitnessphoenix
    @collintrinityfitnessphoenix Месяц назад

    IMHO, The Killers and The Cars have absolutely amazing debut albums both in terms of immediate impact and longevity. Both were absolute pop/rock MONSTERS with several (at least 5) hits and transcended genres. Brilliant albums.

  • @michaelkozma5929
    @michaelkozma5929 2 месяца назад

    This was the most spot on tier List on all points well done.
    I just wish Sublime got some love with "'Jah Won't Pay The Bills" is one of the best debut
    albums for any band ever released. Includes Finn's' favorite Sublime song ever Badfish.

  • @brodieyake7735
    @brodieyake7735 2 месяца назад +2

    That first Avenged Sevenfold album is bad, but Rev's snare tone on that thing is oh so good.

  • @thomasanthony5021
    @thomasanthony5021 2 месяца назад +4

    Marilyn Manson’s first album is dripping with punk saliva…
    I’m really shocked it doesn’t get more attention from the punk scene. It’s such a strange, cool, corky nightmare record with some very original guitar work and fun songs.

    • @spacegrass2738
      @spacegrass2738 2 месяца назад +1

      Awesome album

    • @sinistersix3721
      @sinistersix3721 2 месяца назад +1

      Best album Manson put out. I still only listen to his first 3 only

  • @sluggernott641
    @sluggernott641 2 месяца назад

    Some inclusions for the next iteration of this segment- Pantera. As I Lay Dying. Slipknot. Good Charlotte. Killswitch Engage. Stone Temple Pilots. Rage Against the Machine.
    Also, would be cool to do a similar tier list with sophomore albums with the same bands.

  • @chiefluke210
    @chiefluke210 2 месяца назад +1

    You should react to Hammerhed. They’re a couple young dudes that sound like a more technical version of classic Sepultura.

    • @travisdelee8647
      @travisdelee8647 2 месяца назад +2

      Yo.....
      Heavener is an awesome album

  • @timothyrowe9533
    @timothyrowe9533 Месяц назад +1

    Panic only ever released one good album. But Fever is fucking incredible. On regular rotation.

  • @irishspagetti6565
    @irishspagetti6565 2 месяца назад

    Meshuggah definitely found their identity on Destroy Erase Improve

  • @OTOSoundsandVisuals
    @OTOSoundsandVisuals 2 месяца назад

    Sounding the seventh trumpet takes me back to smoking swag in high school

  • @bourbonernie9534
    @bourbonernie9534 2 месяца назад +1

    You know we're all suckers for tier lists.

  • @mikezurawski1293
    @mikezurawski1293 2 месяца назад

    Where do you put Korn on the tier?

  • @rig-zag
    @rig-zag Месяц назад +1

    Some of my favorites, as for "1st album=best album":
    Static-X Wisconsin Death Trip
    Mudvayne LD50
    Staind Dysfunction
    Limp Bizkit 3 Dolla Bill Y'all

  • @ChristopherJames1993
    @ChristopherJames1993 Месяц назад +1

    What about the Drug In Me Is You?

  • @YummyNukes
    @YummyNukes 2 месяца назад

    From my understanding all the material on Kill 'em All is technically a few years older than when it debut in 1983, so yes it is closer to speed metal and why Ride the Lightning sounds more departed and "advanced" despite coming out a year after Kill 'em All

  • @justenbeashel
    @justenbeashel Месяц назад

    Kill em all is a favourite of mine. The first song I ever learnt on guitar was seek and destroy so I'll always love it. A great debut imo

  • @slayabouts
    @slayabouts 2 месяца назад +1

    I think it’s funny that the first two examples you used are first albums that are neither the worst or the best

  • @vincecarpenter661
    @vincecarpenter661 Месяц назад

    Contradictions Collapse has one the sickest coolest bass tone of all time. The way it’s so throaty and metallic sounding it perfect I don’t think any other bass tone comes close.

  • @dynamicphotography_
    @dynamicphotography_ 2 месяца назад

    I could listen to Finn gush about Gn'R "Appetite For Destruction" for 60 minutes straight.
    It like ASMR for me.

  • @AstralHealthGuy
    @AstralHealthGuy 2 месяца назад +3

    I get annoyed at hipster takes but sometimes I do like when some bands sound raw and kind off bad.

  • @Petergrayguitar
    @Petergrayguitar 2 месяца назад +3

    You guys do realize that all bands are local bands at some point.

    • @Petergrayguitar
      @Petergrayguitar Месяц назад +1

      People that assume that local bands suck are shitting on their local music scene and making it EVEN harder for musicians to make a living and, therefore, for music to thrive. By what logic does one come to the conclusion that good music has to come from somewhere other than their home town? It's completely bullshit.

  • @NFLDude56
    @NFLDude56 2 месяца назад

    I was listening to that first Panic album on first day of my college graphic design class, but I didn't realize my headphones weren't plugged in so everyone heard it.
    It was so damn embarrassing when I realized my headphones weren't plugged in.

  • @tuckergiambrone
    @tuckergiambrone Месяц назад

    appetite is definitely an s tier album but I really love the solos on some of the use your illusion songs

  • @collinparsons3363
    @collinparsons3363 Месяц назад

    To the point of the debut being either the best or worst album, I think for artists debuting on major labels, it tends to be considered the best, while for artists who started independently, it tends to be considered the worst, because it's impossible to record and produce an album that sounds like one that was created with a major label budget.
    I think it's fairly common where the debut album has the best, or at least the most popular singles, but isn't the artist's best full-lenth experience. It's not hard to understand why. For artists on major labels, the label generally wants them to write songs that are very accessible and mainstream-friendly. It's a way of getting the largest possible fan base right out of the gate. The artists themselves also likely don't have a lot of experience writing, which is something people get better at over time. This tends to result in albums that are front-loaded, where the singles just far outshine the album tracks. Audioslave - Self Titled, The Killers - Hot Fuss, and I know it's pop but Avril Lavigne - Let Go are all examples. All 3 are debut albums, and had the most popular singles for their respective artists. However, the other tracks largely get ignored, and the same artists have at least one other album that's considered a more consistent full length listen. There are probably other albums with the same issue, but these 3 come to mind first.

  • @chris-zd9sr
    @chris-zd9sr 2 месяца назад

    1st Panic at the disco truly was one of my favorite albums....never listened to them after tho lmaoo

  • @davidstephan5116
    @davidstephan5116 25 дней назад

    Appetite was NOT GnR’s debut album. They had an album before titled “Live Like a Suicide” which was rereleased later as part of Lies

  • @mitchellcambron2440
    @mitchellcambron2440 2 месяца назад

    Waken the fallen by Avenged right after this one kicks ass tho. That was one of my all time favs in my teenage years

  • @h1dd3n56
    @h1dd3n56 2 месяца назад +2

    Bleach is the album you listen to when you want to hear Nirvana sound live.
    Not saying the other albums are corny are anything, but Bleach has pure unmatched nature like the live shows.

  • @spacegrass2738
    @spacegrass2738 2 месяца назад +1

    Rage against the machine has my all time favorite debut album.Masterpiece!! Facelift is awesome too.My older brothers always say the first Van Halen album is great.My wife loves the Blind Melon debut

  • @whosyaghaddy5382
    @whosyaghaddy5382 2 месяца назад +2

    Welp i love sounding the seventh trumpet 🥲 sadness

  • @ashleybrown4754
    @ashleybrown4754 2 месяца назад

    No other song in existence gives me more nostalgia than Carousel off of Cheshire Cat. Favorite Blink song ever.

  • @jeffleonard343
    @jeffleonard343 Месяц назад

    M&M’s from Blink 182 is so fun!!

  • @onionheadguy7094
    @onionheadguy7094 2 месяца назад

    There's a cool skate punk song on that ax7 album I like I think it's called streets or something?

  • @LocDok
    @LocDok 2 месяца назад

    Which is the 3rd S tier LP album?

  • @lefloeck
    @lefloeck 2 месяца назад

    I can fully agree with this list.

  • @gigachad2162
    @gigachad2162 2 месяца назад +1

    As a metallica and a7x fan, i understand your opinions and respect them

    • @dominikaksiazek7177
      @dominikaksiazek7177 2 месяца назад +1

      I'm A7X's fan but STST is the only album I'm not able to listen to, haha 😅 Their progress as musicians and songwriters is very noticeable. Just four years after STST they wrote City of Evil, a masterpiece. Also, look at their last album, such a brilliant piece of art compared to the debut and a real prog album.

    • @matheusreuter9600
      @matheusreuter9600 Месяц назад

      ​@@dominikaksiazek7177city of evil is one of my favorites of all times

  • @NormalStudios
    @NormalStudios Месяц назад

    Some people often forget Dave wasn’t in the band for bleach either

  • @lidiaspazzard
    @lidiaspazzard 2 месяца назад

    Contradictions Collapse is brilliant. One of Meshuggah's best albums.