Did Jace Velaryon Cheat On Baela Targaryen In The Books 😨
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Jace & Baela seem happily betrothed. There will be no Sara Snow storyline in HOTD.
A shame, though.
@@_antillas8674 no. Jacaela for the win!!
@@happilyevernever4289 Baela roasts him on his bastardy better than Aemond ever did, though.
@@_antillas8674 she only asked what he remembered of Harwin. She was letting him know that she’s aware of who his true father was…and it doesn’t make her think less of him. She was in no way ‘roasting’ him.
@@_antillas8674Why are you trying to make it seem like it's a bad thing to ask about his father??
We all know he cheated on her with Cregan
Brokeback winterfell 😍😂
When was that ever established did Baela ever even meet Cregan?
@@haleyadams731 huh? Might want to reread what he said, Baela wouldn't need to meet Cregan for Jace to cheat on her with Cregan.
No they didn’t both are straight men
@@KevinDiazx11 its not gay if u got socks on
Mushroom and his weird fanfiction
No show whitewashed all tb characters(except Daemon) so they are bland and boring because they all cannot do wrong
His fan fictions were so funny honestly, kind of disgusting but lmao he just invents the most scandalous shot
I prefer him to the gray rats propaganda.
If it was about Aegon the second boiling puppies alive for dinner Condal would make it his show canon
Yet book loyalists want it to be cannon
it wasn't Cregan's sister,it was Cregan himself. I know, i was there.
I'm sure Jace was into Cregan, i read the story hahha
Targaryens just can't stop falling in love with Starks lmao!
Rhaegar wasn’t ‘meant’ to be with Elia because he was already with Elia and had 2 children with her. Also love or not I'm pretty sure he pursued the 15 year old Lyanna to fulfill his prophecies to give him a daughter.
But got a son!
Lyanna begged him to elope with her cause she did not want to marry Robert. Stop making things up lol
@@Pekkamaattanen Never compare Jace the Black Crown Prince, a strong bastard, to that coward animal Rhaegar again.
@@wahidamahzabin3329 Never compare the Black Crown Prince, strong bastard, to that coward animal Rhaegar again. A pile of dog droppings is greater than Rhaegar.
Any Targaryen bastard > Rhaegar.
Sara Snow is Cregan's alter ego. Their bond was his motivation to bring justice in the Hour of the Wolf.
Lol 😂
Say it louder for the people in the back
Sometimes I think Baela and Jace had more of a sibling like relationship than betrothed
So weird hearing something before the Iconic "Did you know, in the books"
Take it with a handful of salt to both ways.
I truly truly hope this doesn’t happen in the show… Jace and Baela are the only pure thing House of the Dragon has🥴 they seen happily betrothed so far, always respecting each other… please don’t destroy that in the show🙏🏼
Lyanna was 14/15 - Rhaegar was 27/28. They weren’t in love.
Best case scenario, she was infatuated with him and he was a “protector” who relented to her advances after much protestation.
Worst case (and most likely) he abducted a minor and sexually assaulted her.
That is not in Rhaegars character. He wasn’t a saint, but wasn’t a madman nor cruel either.
I'm pretty sure he didn't sexually assaulted her . I know it's morally wrong for their age at this time but if you take it in the storyline time. The age gap wasn't a problem. So, she willingly went with him .
@@EwingAmaterasu
We know precious little about Rhaegar. Jon Con was in Love with Rhaegar, so he’s very unreliable on the matter. We didn’t get much from Viserys either - though his recollections undeniably had a pro-Targaryen bent.
He was popular in some circles, though in many of those circles Aerys was also unpopular and they later rallied against the Targaryen cause during the rebellion/war.
@@KatarinaCarson
In the story we know there are rarely-if-ever consummated relationships between adult males and high born fifteen year old girls. Tyrion knows it’s wrong (when he marries Sansa).
Also, in the story we know, the noble houses especially respect marriage betrothals. The North loses the war when Robb sets aside the Frey betrothal and Joffrey and Sansa’s betrothal had to be set aside by the High Septon (even after her father’s “betrayal”) before his betrothal to Margaery would be recognised.
And Rhaegar was an adult. After he first met Lyanna Stark (at Harrenhal) he went home and conceived Prince Aegon with Elia Martell.
I'm pretty sure Rhaegar was about 24, but yeah, it's definitely messed up for us since he was the adult in that situation while Lyanna was still a teen
If that’s the case then where is Sara at in the show then you’d think they’d show them together at least once if the rumors were true and not just him with Cregan I mean Jace ain’t got much screen time left before the inevitable unless they change that completely which would be a completely different story
There's more seasons to come, they could always introduce her in Season 3.
Sara Snow was only mentioned by Mushroom, and he was the wildest fanfic writer in the ASOIAF universe. The other contemporary sources in the universe agree that Mushroon made up Sara and her romance with Jace.
So are you just not going to mention that this was a rumor carried by mushroom and that sara snow had very little records written of her existence? Sara snow is deemed to have been made up by mushroom since there is barely anything to back her existence
Yup.
No Sara Snow or cheating in the show. Jacaela actually love each other…HBO!Baela karma too powerful that’s my girl
As far as incent or related couples go, Jace and Baela are cute and wholesome
As a team green supportive, that is a filthy lie. Nettles on the other hand I can see.
There's no point in supporting either side considering what will happen ..which is already happened in the book.
@@bhaveshsinghyadav9183 I know that I'm really on Team Shepherd / Pro Peasant Piots.
Nettles was definitely Daemons joint.. he loved her for sure, Rhaenyra hated her so much for a reason
Nettles is such an interesting character I would be furious 😡 if they removed her or combined an other character with it
By the way teem green 💚💚💚 all the time 🐉🐉
@@simplestgamerz691 Nettles as a character and has a Dragon seed is such a cool addition to the Civil War. And what that character represents is that anyone without their special Dragon Blood and ride that damn dragon. It'll be the greatest shame if that character is written out of the show or retconned.
Yes Cregan Stark inserted his ice into jace
Brokeback winterfell 😍😂
People being stupid and amorous causing the trouble for innocent people all over their kingdoms. SMH 🤦♀️
So messy
Almost like George R.R Martin doesn’t have any more content to write and keeps rewriting the same books with a few quirks.
Almost like history repeats itself
@@propogandalf I guess. 🙂↔️
The chemistry between Jace and Baela is so cute, it looks like they love each other and are a healthy couple
Would have made his character more interesting
First to take the Black 🖤
my man jace would never
some people wonder if sara snow even exists in fire and blood though don’t they?
He could have followed in the conquerors footsteps
This will not end well but... I hope we see this happen on the show
Huh so homewrevking runs in the stark girls family? Nice
How can Jacerys cheat when he hasn't even married Baela yet
They are betrothed dummy
The Starks are fine saying vows under the Heart Trees. If Jon doesn't have to be King, I bet Rhaegar did not/will not annul his wedding to Elia, in the books. It's a bad plot device, but technically, he could have one legal wife in the Fot7, a Tree Wife, a Valyrian wife, a salt wife...etc. Aegon the Conq. had 2 wives, and they were Valyrian and his sisters, so the old gods probably don't much care what happens in the Fot7. Just saying.
I think 🤔 he did cheat the pact of ice 🥶 and fire 🔥 allows him to Smash random Stark bastards and his chemistry with baela isn't really there in the show
They have barely shown them together enough to make this assessment lol
Rhaeneyra: “I’m the rightful queen and my bastard children are the proper heirs”
Everyone that knows: 👀
Stfu! Bastards is not a legitimate reason to deny her. She could've been queen and then Aegon II could have been
@@CW-rx2js f that
@@CW-rx2jsIt is a very much legitimate reason. She wants her dirty bastards on the throne instead of her sons with Daemon, which means the extinguishment of the Targaryens, or at least, on the outside. Like it or not, the Greens are the reason why you have a silver-haired Daenerys.
@@_antillas8674 why do u keep lying to others???😂😂😂😂
@@happilyevernever4289 Please specify what exactly that I said was a lie.
Full on thought you were gonna say he cheats on beala with Kregan
Is it really cheating if he not married to her?
Kinda sucks to be engaged since you're 4 yrs old!
Jacaerys, a worthy heir to the throne, the most suitable for the iron throne, it is a shame that we will not see him become king, he would be the best king of Westeros.
I don’t think they’re gonna do everything like the book in my opinion , cause it will be way too predictable and boring , the only predictable things we should have is the death of the characters at this point since Rhaenyra’s death was mentioned by Joffrey in the original show and the events happens at more than 100-200 years before the original show ( even if they say 90 years , looking at the book info the time gape is way bigger) so they’re all dead anyway.
"Oh shit"
The Sara Snow plotline will be absent
Good riddance
Que parecido es Jace a Jhon Snow 😮
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I thought i was the only one that got brokeback vibes at the wall scene 😅
No, Jace isn’t stupid enough to do that, especially when he’s at war, his legitimacy is put in question and is about to lose his head
Well, Robb was stupid enough, and he wasn't even in such a situation.
@@_antillas8674 he isn't Rob now, is he? This is a different character.
@@happilyevernever4289 Yes, but Robb's example only serves to illustrate that characters can, indeed, be stupid enough. A shame that the writers threw it out, same as too many other things.
@@_antillas8674But Robb didn't have the added disadvantages of having other claimants to his Position and it bieng an Open secret that he's a Bastard.
If he had maybe he would have been more careful.
@@kingkiller5325 I mean, didn't Robb literally fight a war to capture the city and the throne which _four_ other claimants were fighting for?
Jace's bastardy doesn't actually seem to be a huge issue in this context, at least "in-universe" and for other characters. Robb only had the North as his vassals and depended heavily on the alliance with the Freys. Jace also depends much on Corlys and his fleet, but he also has dragons, the Vale, the North, almost the entire Riverlands and a huge part of the Reach. Surely if Robb was foolish enough to marry some random girl in the middle of a war between _five_ kings, Jace wouldn't mind it either.
This might mean that Sara snow was in fact made up by mushroom
No sense as to why they had to race swap
They wanted to be diverse they had to check a few things of the box
Just because you imagined them as white and European doesn't mean it doesn't make sense. It just doesn't make sense to you. Velaryon skin colour is never described. The only description is purple eyes and sliver hair. No person has purple eyes and sliver hair irl. This is high fantasy and a fictional race. Valeria is in Essos. The people from the East in Planetos are very diverse and come in many shades. Westeros is based on our Europe so you'd see most people in westeros be white. However Velaryon is an Essos family from the old Valerian empire. They don't have to be white. Velaria was made up of many different people all conquered by the empire. Even though the typical features was purple eyes and sliver hair it was not always the case and other eye colours and hair colours existed. I suggest you read the world building supplementary books like world of ice and fire before you assume things and make yourself look foolish. I swear anti woke people are just as bad as the wokes, always ready to be a Karen about something. The reason they made Velaryons black was to make the paternity of Rhaenyra's children undeniable and obviously for the TV audience. It was actually clever and necessary.
@@kap2652no that's not the reason. But I'm sure you have to believe that so you can have a reason to b!tch about wokeness. Ironically anti wokes are just as Karen as the wokes. If you knew anything about the Valerian empire you'd know Velaryons being black is more than possible. Also if you weren't consumed with thinking you are a victim of forced diversity in media and entertainment you'd understand making the Velaryons black was an intentional storytelling choice. It makes it blatantly obvious that Rhaenyra's kids are bastards and everyone knows just by looking at them. It wasn't for diversity.
@@Freya1412 imagined? They are literally described as WHITE PALE SKIN in the books
to make the bastard rumors true. they could never be laenors if they were not black or at least mixed. it’s not about inclusivity or whatever, it was just to make rhaenyra’s sons bastards.
Maybe he did with Cregan 🥵
Uhhh it doesn’t really line up w Rhaegar and Lyanna tho. Not is Sara was a bastard and “wild and unwashed” and yes promised to each other but they never had kids for him to abandon.
So idk this is a weird parallel imo
And also I’m still going w whatever GRRM says and how no narrative in the book, is exact and will always be biased in some way 🤷🏻♀️ soooo idk I’m just here to see how they interpret the missing pieces and the “real” story.
Especially seeing as how, not for nothing, we all have our own theories and would love to see different scenarios played out. So I really don’t get the in depth devotion as if y’all are in the show..? Like I’m in love with everything about it but sometimes some of the fans make it hard to see these theory of book vs show videos.
Like I’m just here for the info and what other people have to say but once there’s sides and 💩 being taken seriously I cringe. It’s worse than the MHA fandom atp
So, at what point of the story was Baela kissing boys and being a wild child?
🖤
Yeah they changed that about Baela in the show
I don’t blame him after seeing that drawing of her lol
Jace will die and Baela will marry Alyn Valaryon .....
They will not show this in the show cuz they want jace to be look like he’s mother and the other blacks “ angels 😇 “ what a joke😂😂😂
Sara Snow's existence is most likely to be made up coz nobody else accounts for her even existing.
This is a book?
a weird rumor in the book contributed to a character who most likely never existed. Or was ever mentioned outside of this rumor.
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@@Keram-io8hv why'd yey call it a book then DH
Jace will die and Baela will marry Alyn Valaryon 😊aa
So both Jace and Rhaegar tried to have a Stark girl as a sister wife.
Why "sister", though?
History repeats itself 👀
It won't. Sara Snow's existence is made up by Mushroom. No other people brings her up ever.
Any Targaryen bastard > Rhaegar.
Never trust a Targaryen man
Fck y'all, Jace was a man, not everything has to do with "love". Blud was just cold.
No one would cheat on Baela...she the true queen